Loicense EditionHow long did it take you to get your woodworking license? Do you have big muscles as a result of hand tool autism? Post wood related questions, projects, ideas etc.>resourceshttps://rentry.co/trc3fwya>previous>>2861168
how much does a 16mm hole weaken a < inch and half octagonal pine leg
look at these malnourished tenons
is this an actual crack or a knot artifact
it actually cracked during dry assembly
is something like this actually good for anything other than lightly sitting on it never see any shop stools with this design wonder if the stretchers can actually take the full weight of a person because somebody will definitely try that how strong are stretchers on a chair anyway i think i can remember cracking a few in school
i have some extra money i want to throw at dust collection, i was thinking the hercules. mainly i need it for collecting chips from my jointer and planer as currently i'm just spewing mulch all over the yard. would this work with an added cyclone or should i go bigger? space is limited and i only have one dedicated 120V 15A circuit for ithttps://www.harborfreight.com/12-gallon-osha-compliant-dust-extractor-58966.html
>>2874371This is better suited as a plant stand, too lightweight for most people to use casually.
own 6 metal planes and only one of them takes a shaving wat do
>>2874475Figure out what's wrong with them and fix it.
>>2874371Prostate stimulus
>>2874509I bought em from a gypsy subhuman the plane irons are all fucked and some are missing components, almost all the plane irons have a hollow in the middle of the edge so only the 2 edges engage the wood
Built A few things today.made a small shelf to get her Sneed oils & vinegar up off the floor, installed a roll-out shelf rack & built a spice rack.we moved into the new house 18 months ago. still customizing the storage to fit needs.the roll-out was free. the spice rack was a late day, off hand request by the wife. made from scraps, leftover from *other scraps* of recent projects. floor shelf was leftover scraps from a raised dog bowl table... which was also made from scraps.
>>2874455whats wrong with things being lightweight
How was this wood treated?
>>2874363>>2874365>>2874366>>2874368I believe you answered your own question.>>2874778Looks like weathering.
dog bowl riser
I wanna make millions by building epoxy tables, get me started bros
>>2874614So first you flatten the soles and then redo the chisels. You might even use a meta file on them for the initial grinding. Straight and square with a flat edge is better than convex with a sharp edge
Saw a tea tray with an interesting design yesterday. How would one glue up such thin strips? Use some kind of metal plate keep them flat?
>>2874805top should be thicker than the legs
Been watching some turning youtubes, what do these 'fancy' vases and bowls actually sell for? Are they just making money from the videos or also the actual product?
>>2875085They have no intrinsic value since they’re vases. One from a recognised artist apparently sells at $1400. In my country custom made wood urns sell for $700, when marketed as vases a lot less than that. If you don’t have a name as an artist or a line up of different beautiful similar products, expect a very hard time selling one over $300. But if you can get it into an (online) art gallery it goes up fast.
>>2874371>pine>load bearing chairIf you are using pine for this shit you want as much of the board as possible. Even woth oak or ash your design is weak at the drill points
>>2874814? you can buy that shit by the square foot.it doesnt look like made by someone with a lot of fancy tools, just a tablesaw and pre glues boards. Dowel pins hint to the ol screw glue up hack
>>2874812First, you need a totalboat sponsorship, because each one uses around $1000 in epoxy resin. Unless you fuck something up. Then it starts to get costly.
>>2875188You’re not seeing what I’m seeing or vice versa. I know you can buy laminate boards and how to glue up one like in your pic but this one is maybe 8mm thick at most. > doesnt look like made by someone with a lot of fancy tools, just a tablesaw and pre glues boardsThese guys have a huge name as a fancy ‘handmade’ furniture producer in my country, it’s an €80 tray so pretty sure it’s their own glue up
>>2874785eh not really the tenon cracked from misaligned angle of the hole and it's towards the back put a hardwood pin in it too still don't know if the front stretchers can take the weight of a person but i guess all the joints down there should work in conjunction in some way >>2875159that's how chris schwarz built it an ADB and he used pine granted he used yellow pine but pine nonetheless i do have blue pine available to me i think at the local timber store is it as strong as yellow pine
>>2875225you're talking about this, right? cut your board 16mm short, glue complementing board to the end grain on both sides, after it dries saw off most of it, dowel and plane
>>2875225then what else do you mean, the flush sides? they finish it on this armature likely>so pretty sure it’s their own glue upsure, they didnt even give an ass about aligning the boards properly>it’s an €80 trayin other words its calculated one hour labor at most
>>2875233>>2875243Maybe I am too ESL, my question is how to I glue strips of this thickness together like that. because when I tried before it was hard to get a straight result, as soon as i apply pressure the strips want to move out of flat
>>2875385use cauls to keep them straight and glue in smaller stages then
>>2874663>goes to grab gun to kill nigger intruder>aayeeeee there's a spider on it!
>>2875389This, and then do final flattening after they are glued.
>>2875385you glue much larger pieces and then cut and plane it to the final dimensionsyou can make many of these short strips from one glue uplots of clamps to keep it straight while it dries, clamp it to a stiff and flat surface
>>2875385equal amount of clamps on top and bottom side.If the glue face is matched perfectly, give the glue some time to soak into the wood, !when applied to both sides! white glue has an open time of multiple minutes and has to be clamped only after it turned translucent. prevents slippage at the cost of squeeze out on a not perfect fit.And last and least, these glue ups get thrown into a belt sander until the sides are equal height. none of these dudes work artistically accurate, its all fixed in post production
>>2875427>artistically accuratemeant autistically accurate
>>2875389>>2875418>>2875427Thanks this all makes a lot of sense. I’ll try my hand at it just wanted to ask first because hardwoods are expensive here
If you make a rectangle out of 1”x2”s laying on their side, then glue+nail 1/2” plywood onto both sides, you get a 2” thick hollow ‘sandwich panel’. This should be stiff in all directions right? And a lot stiffer than eg 1” plywood. I’m looking to build a shop cabinet for heavy stuff and have lots of small sheets and 1x2s leftover, this seems like the easiest way to make something strong out of it but I haven’t seen others doing it>>2874363About half, a little more. I believe 55% for a hole that is 50% rod diameter, you removed 60%
>>2874334I have an issue here>making bookshelf as beginner ww project>plans are for a bookshelf from a single sheet of plywood>only issue is that you cant make any mistakes bc youll run out of material>make a mistake cutting the vertical pieces circled in blue>decide to build the bookshelf anyway, just with only rectangles>finish the piece, but decide i kind of want those pieces to get the wavy back and forth lookThe issue is, how do i attach those pieces now? obviously youre supposed to put them in when doing the initial glue up, but now theyd have to be slid in. Im considering>ripping a groove down the top and bottom of board, filling with glue, sliding in and clampingWould that work? is there a better way to go about this?
How do I get wood to a very smooth surface that will hide the grain when painted. Is aqua coat good?
Im retarted, I bought a drill and it has drill setting and hammer setting but no screw setting, did I make a bad purchase or am I overthinking it and just use the drill setting to screw?
>>2875559?all drills are like that, you can use the numbers to set torque if you dont want to crank something down too hard, otherwise just use the drill setting
>>2875572This drill has a screw setting thoughhttps://youtu.be/xRc7tF0mS9Y
>>2875575ive never seen that before, it could be some fancy anti-strip tech, but id guess its just a marketing gimmick to help it sell to people who dont use alot of tools. On 99% of drills the numbers are torque settings, lower numbers mean the clutch will release with only a little amount of torque... higher numbers mean the clutch will release after alot of torque... "drill mode" means it wont clutch out at all. Then theres 1 and 2 for speeds. Drills are just a motor for turning things, theres really not that much to them, most people just go my feel... i havent changed the setting on mine in years
>>2875545just do it already
>>2875545>Would that work? is there a better way to go about this?Yeah it should work but it's going to be tough if you've already done the rest of the assembly. I'd consider attaching them with these on the back side, then drive some angles pin nails to hold the front in place. Drive the nails below the surface, then use wood filler in the holes and sand it flat.
>>2875547Sand it to 150 and coat it with primer.
>>2875602I tried this on a scrap piece and can still see it with 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of paint. Should I go get an oil based primer?
>>2875527>this seems like the easiest way to make something strong out of it but I haven’t seen others doing itThe more complete version of this is known as a 'torsion box'. For the full effect you also put stringers inside glued to the faces, gives excellent stiffness-to-weight.
>>2875559If you’re trying to sink a screw below the face of the wood then use the drill picture. If you’re putting together ikea furniture, put it on like the number 4. When you hear clicking that means it won’t spin anymore. If you need more depth, turn the number higher.
>>2875665> torsion box thank you a bunch that’s exactly the term I was looking for but couldn’t find it.
>>2875664Yes, you should use oil based primers on wood. Water based will soak in and raise the grain. Once it is primed you can use either oil or water based paint.
>>2875716Ah makes sense. Thank you
Posted some woodworking manuals and magazines, some basic, some more advanced. Hopefully of some use to someone.gofile.io/d/7Y3oJD (Self deletes after a while, so sooner is better)
>>2875837doesn't work for me does it have fine woodworking magazines
>danish oil darkens wood>tfw doesn't work for me
For a first project I want to do a bench, should I do something like this (no plywood just 2x4s) and what screws should I use?
>>2875861Or something like this and is it the same screws?
>>2875842>gofile.io/d/7Y3oJDI just added 35 issues of Fine Woodworking.It is set to public, maybe you have a filter blocking it.
I just did some triangle things out of 1x4s, they are supposed to be decorative trees, can I a simple answer how do I make it green and finish it|? I saw some videos but it got confused with all the options and things that mix with other things.I heard I can use a water soluble dye (dont know what dye would be) and then just cover it with mineral oil, seems simple enough, but I wanted to give some away and I hear mineral oil doesnt last long or doesnt in good condition
>>2875385>as soon as i apply pressure the strips want to move out of flatDid you run the pieces through a joiner? Edges have to be flat and at a nearly perfect 90 degrees to the board faces. Or when you clam them, they'll conform to their uneven edges.
Started to make frames with out planning with mixed router bit sets in a shaper. Needs mental adjustement. Using cmt/chink bits
>>2875861>>2875862Use waterproof glue, screws don’t handle the repeated swelling and shrinking of softwoods outdoors well>>2875968Looks good anon
>>2875884isp block i proxy'd into it thanks fren
>>2875910You can buy some green tinted wood stain from a store, or the cheap and easy method is to add food coloring to rubbing alcohol in the color you want. It doesn't take much. The recommended order to apply would be clear coat - alcohol dye - clear coat. You can use a water based clear coat, or polyurethane, or shellac, just be aware that some will add their own yellow character to the finish. Here is an example of a toy I made like this.
>>2875985I didnt not expect that, will glue really handle the weight of a grown man maybe 2? Guess I will make the order for green Titebond
>>2875985>>2876054Or did you mean glue plus screws?
>>2876054Most modern glues make joints stronger in shear than the wood itself is. So yes, in a design like >>2875861 glue alone is more than enough. Screw and glue is nice because you can work faster and don’t need as many clamps. If you’re just going to use 2x4s glue them so that the bark side points in the same direction instead of alternating them to avoid gaps. The 2x4s pictures are some terrible quality btw
>>2874743The average American will break their hip and both arms using lightweight stools
>>2875862looks tippy, legs are too close together unless there is a base burried under the wood chips3" torx deck screws, #9 or #10 I think or whatever the normal size isthey'll be gold or brown, that's the annodizing and paint to protect it from moisturethe wood in your pic is pressure treated but it's the more expensive kind that they dye brown instead of green. you can use brown or green just make sure it's ground contact and not normal framing lumber
Do you guys reckon I'd get in trouble for turning harry potter wands and selling them?
>>2876299How can you even do that? arent they just sticks?
Tourist here. How do I into woodworking?I just wanna build simple shit like >>2874805. Do you really just saw up a couple of 2x4s and nail them together? Is it really that easy?
>>2876355Beginner here. Let me tell you my experience.Went to a class, is great but kinda have to learn again from the beginning because I dont have access to all those tools.I got a handsaw to try nail things together, but the cuts were really bad and uneven so they were useless, I could have probably gotten better but I would have wasted lot of wood in the process.Next got a few chisels to try to even the cuts but I couldnt do it, then I got a sharpening stone and tried free hand but I wasnt good at it, then I bought a jig to get consistent angles and then I saw the stone was shit and I just gave up on the chisels and bought a circular saw.Now the thing I wanted to build I dont want to build anymore, thought about smaller stuff but circular saws are not good for small stuff.I decided to make do with the circular saw and glue, but now Im thinking how I will finish to not be fucked by weather, cans of the stuff are expensive and dont know what to get.So dont fuck around wasting time like I did I guess.
>>2874363You cut the sides off, there's only like 20% material remaining.If you plug that hole tight it will help, but I'm not optimistic about the durability
>>2874371LOL funny as fuck dude>its a vest rack, jackets too
>>2876299just call them "wizard wands" or something generic like that, even if they're nearly direct copies from the movies>>2876338pretty sure they changed their apperance several times throughout the movies, along with the whole atmosphere, color grading, director and several of the actors
>>2876365I just wanna make a little table. Buying a circular saw would be overkill
>>2876355>Do you really just saw up a couple of 2x4s and nail them together? Is it really that easy?Yeah, if you don't care what it looks likeYou can do a lot with a drill and a skilsaw, which is probably what that fella used. Maybe a jigsaw to make the round hole. You could use a hand saw if you don't want to buy a skilsaw, it just takes longer.
>>2876397If you make your table a standard size they have pre-cut 2x2', 2x4' and 2x8' plywood at the menards. I made a desk that way out of 2x4s and a 2x4' 3/4" plywood. You have to build an apron to make it strong, which is just a rectangle made of more 2x4s screwed onto the legs and the table top. And if you want it real sturdy you can add stringers which are also just 2x4s screwed to the legs. A table built this way will be far stronger than anything you can buy.
>>2876389is that gonna be me
I don’t know what the problem with these is but I used 3 of them and 2 just randomly got stuck while unscrewing them. Sounded like the thread skipped or something. They weren’t even tight or misaligned (M8 screws in 10mm hole so plenty of clearance), I’d installed and removed both them before so it can’t be debris either. Got so stuck (they’re stainless) that it took a lot of drilling and a crowbar to finally remove them. Does anyone know what can cause this?
I think I'm just gonna kms instead of finishing this project.
I'm broke and ignorant, is it worth to start woodworking on a tight budget with no electric tools?
>>2876549The older I get the more I use hand tools.No set-up, no jigs, charging of batteries (and finding that battery).Watch that bald rex krueger guy, he shows you how to do everything you’ll need.The most expensive thing you need is probably a smoothing plane.
>>2876492> kys instead of finishing projectI have hundreds of unfinished projects. Literally hundreds. But I don’t care.
>>2876452Were you trying to screw them into the hole? That's not how they work.
>>2876492Be willing to scrap the project, but learn from it.
>>2876549No, you may think youre saving by using hand tools, but youll never get stuff done, is fine if you buy one electric tool a month
Newfag here. When should I do joinery as opposed to just nailing shit together?
>>2876800Nailing is joinery.It’s a continuum. Here’s a useful table:Birdhouses: nails2x4 house construction: nails or screwsSheathing: crown staplesTrim and moulding: brad nails
>>2876816I mean "nice" joinery, like dovetails and shit. Is that purely for decoration?
>>2876800You’re free to use fasteners alongside joints if you’re not a purist.Main function of most joints is to give the pieces multiple mating surfaces instead of one, each additional mating surface restricts movement/rotation in one or more dimensions, and provides a glue surface to restrict even more. Nails/screws are very strong in the shear plane but will easily pull out when bending or pulling the pieces apart (old days house construction joints were made ‘sliding’ or free to move and rotate in one plane, with nails to lock the joint in that plane.Also you usually don’t want to put fasteners like nails or screws into end grain. Think of a drawer, you could make one by stapling everything together but simple joints like a dovetail/rabbet/housing dado make it a lot stronger with no chance of splitting the material
>>2876826It is an alternative to mechanical fasteners. Many traditional joints are not only more visually appealing but also stronger. For someone starting though, there is nothing wrong with using screwed together joints. You can get an affordable pocket hole jig. You can learn to hide your screws with decorative plugs. And when you feel you are ready, learn how to do a mortise and tenon or a dovetail.
>>2874334Anyone tried there hand at being a Luthier? Was looking at building my own acoustics / classical guitars and possibly smaller stuff like violins and mandolins. Maybe doing repair and refab as a side gig.
Should i get into charred wood finishPine shit looks too generic
>>2876987I've done it professionally for a while, AMA I guess. Not with my own business license or anything, more like production in a smallish factory plus my own repair and building on the side.Kind of a weird business. IMO any woodworker who's competent with hand tools could pick it up pretty fast. There are a number of operations that require some special tools and techniques, but the buy-in isn't that crazy. It obviously helps if you play, and can just understand it as a functional object; knowing which dimensions are crucial and which are subjective aesthetic or feel things. There is a ton of magical thinking surrounding the whole thing; customers and builders alike often assume that there's some high science or technique behind things when the reality is usually more like, X famous company began doing it that way 100 years ago and it worked pretty well, so it became the norm. Margins are very small compared to cabinetry or something, it's always a passion thing these days. But you can make a livingTry building a uke first; the only special tools you would really NEED would be a very thin-kerf saw for fret slots and maybe a small file for dressing; you probably even have a file that could work for that if you were careful. It's cheaper and faster than any geetar but uses all the same operations. Don't waste good wood until you have a couple dry runs
>>2877156Thanks for the input.>IMO any woodworker who's competent with hand tools could pick it up pretty fast.I'm a complete beginner noob. I've peeled a stick once. Probably need to do some intro wood-shop before touch this I assume. > There is a ton of magical thinking surrounding the whole thingFunny, honestly thought a physics text on acoustics would've helped, but nothing beats trial & error + time . >it's always a passion thing these days.That's the idea, something to supplement my dreary worklife in IT really.
>>2877158Maybe try making one of these lil niggas. They're traditionally diy folk instruments and it's kind of hard to go wrong. Lots of books have been written about them; try "In Search of the Wild Dulcimer" by Robert Force if it sounds appealing. Cigar box guitars are cool too but personally the fat suburban blues dad culture puts me off, lol.Learning about structures or acoustics would absolutely not hurt, just understand that guitars as we mostly know them today were never "engineered," they were arrived at by some smart craftsmen via intuition and cut-and-try, then analyzed much later, if at all. There have been various more deliberately-"engineered" guitars marketed over the last 100 years or so, but they usually end up being loved by some and hated by the rest. Questioning how much of it is just about what we're used to.The way more important thing is to spend the time picking up craft. Better luthiers definitely use more "concept" when it comes to getting resonance and tuning, but it demands excellent craft to achieve, so getting nitpicky at the start is putting the cart before the horse. And most of it is procedural; just knowing your materials and getting your ducks in a row. For example, the greats will thin the open areas of a soundboard with precision, especially on archtops. But the gains are marginal, and impossible to achieve if you aren't good with a knife and finger plane. Etc.
>>2877158Have you entertained an idea of building a box guitar?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJt4_iMAWKE
>>2877158Since you now have random fags telling you to make instruments, I'll go with my favorite thousand year old instrument.Make a psaltery, if they could make them a thousand years ago, you can probably make one too.Then enter a downward spiral of LARPing around while playing medieval music before succumbing to some random sexually transmitted disease from some random wench.
gym bench made of MDF feasible?
>>2877182Bowed or plucked? Also just want to say, aeolian window harp.>>2877355I wouldn't. You could do it but it would have to be quite heavy and clunky and idk it's kind of just asking for trouble when you could make it out of pine 1X2's just fine
are those table saws on a stand supposed to be not good?
>>2877166That looks fun, I'd be happy to craft something like that . >>2877162>The way more important thing is to spend the time picking up craft. Better luthiers definitely use more "concept" when it comes to getting resonance and tuning, but it demands excellent craft to achieve, so getting nitpicky at the start is putting the cart before the horse. And most of it is procedural; just knowing your materials and getting your ducks in a row.Aptly put. I'd get as much experience as possible despite preferences. >>2877182>>2877363>psaltery>aeolian window harpBeautiful ye olde pieces. How about a Greek lyre too?
>>2877383Related question, what’s a good value for money table saw that isn’t on stands
>>2877383>>2877434i have the skil 10" i got on sale earlier in the year (weirdly enough cheaper than the (((black friday))) price), works great
>>2877535the idea of a jobsite table saw is just hilarious to me who's sitting there on a construction site ripping lumber or cutting dados and stuff instead of just using miter saw quickly on dimensional lumber and slapping it together to make a structure
>>2877434I really like my compact Dewalt, It weighs 50 lbs, which is nice because I store it on a shelf. I would have preferred the larger model, but no place to store it. the rack and pinion fence system is a godsend for me.
>>2877551more goes into construction than just framing
>>2877434Not a table saw, but for sheet goods I like using this thing. Kind of a combination mitre and table saw. The slider locks to push long-ass things through.One day I might mod it to have the saw replaceable with, say, a router to cut dados. Or even a chisel plane,I use my table saw less and less. I think with a tracksaw to break down bigger stuff I’d probably never use it.
/ourgirl/ ?https://youtu.be/KJM_uZH-jNg?si=6wYCssI_jweOmslW&t=115
>>2877563like what formwork? idk concrete framework just seems like hammering nails and pulling them out of the same set of boards don't say cabinets
>>2877580What is this thing called? From picture I have no idea how one would cut sheets with this
>>2877836>women can woodworkpack it in boys
>>2877852It’s a flooring saw. You can’t break down full sheets with it, but you can break down smaller pieces with it by pushing it through. The slider locks in the middle for that purpose.
is paul finally creative bankrupt?it has to be like the 5th time he builds that 3 diamond plates plywood benchood
>>2877862NTABut that thing actually looks kinda cool.Seems to do a passable job both as table saw and as miter saw. Depending on the price might be nice for guys on a low budget and/or short on space.
Could a sanding expert help me out choosing a new one primarily for woodworking projects like furniture, cutting boards, stuff like that?>have a cheap oscillating saw with the sanding head, but would like something more powerful, it’s ok for getting into tight spots>pic related, I have Milwaukee m18 batteries, but I’m not a Milwaukee guy, any brand is fine>corded vs cordless, cordless would be nice for the occasional Sheetrock repair, but if corded ones are way better for the price I’m good with cordedI can’t afford festool or fancy stuff, but is there a good reason to upgrade beyond like harbor freight for a sander? Not super concerned about dust collection
>>2877911I used to sand pretty much all day at my job and in your shoes I'd probably just get whatever corded random orbital sander. Fuck batteries. High quality/appropriate paper would be a better use of your cash I think, most people underappreciate the difference in labor and finish quality there. That bein said, most of what I've done is just using power sanding in the rough stages and surface finishing by hand, make of that what you will
>>2877911>but is there a good reason to upgrade beyond like harbor freight for a sander?sanding is miserable and since work is time*power you can cut down on the misery by buying a higher wattage sander with fitting orbit radius and large pad
>>2877911The only advantage of fes stool ever is the dust control. It's $50 just to replace the velcro pad on their RO. All ROs are very useful. They do their jobs well over many grits. I lean to corded because they are cheaper and most sanding jobs require quite a bit of run time. I often have to remove any evidence of seams in MDF tops or cabs. As well, finishing wood items involves climbing grit # in steps. I generally have good luck with Bauer HF tools as their Chicago electric stuff tends to self destroy around a year of hard use. My Porter Cable has been good for years. Newer Dewalts have good ergonomics and probably higher rpm. Your sheetrock repair is going to be mostly manual pole sander and low grit. Most walls are fine with 120.
>>2877836London girls with $90k shops don't fuck with us.
what if you made this in hardwood https://www.amazon.ca/PlayWood-Connector-Tool-Free-Furniture-Assembly/dp/B07JZV28YC?th=1
>>2878074Not entirely impossible, though you'd have to be careful about grain selection and you'd have to use a T nut in the outside piece so you pull the two pieces together from the outside. If you put a threaded insert into the outside piece you'll probably just end up ripping the protruding middle section off when you apply any load to it.
>>2878074>>2878104I’d suggest making the central part bigger and embedding a regular nut. Other anon is right about the grain, you’d need make them about 2/3”-3/4” of hardwood I think unless you have something with the exactly right grainT nuts dig themselves in if the angle is slightly off. Did y’all know that an M6 rivet nuts have a flange too AND fit perfectly in a 3/8” hole
How do I into sanding?Is there a standard? Like do I start with a 100 and work my way up to what number? And how much do I need to work my way up to something or can I just jump to the end? and how does that change with depending on the finish particularly mineral oil?
cutting boards were a mistake
>>2878293Depends on the wood, it’s roughness, and what you’re sanding for. >>2875837 has a good finishing book (called ‘finishing wood’). For painting, check the can, usually you stop between 180 and 320. If it’s already pretty smooth you can start at 120, sometimes even 80. You go down by 20 when all you see on the surface is scratches from the previous grit and no more other irregularities.
>>2878293>>2878310do you also sand between coats of paint or only varnish
>>2877877paul who? sellers? allen?
Been working on this bed frame for a while. The rails and posts are fixed to each other, but the head boards, foot boards, and slats (with support beams and center foot) are all detachable. Overall I'm pretty happy with how it turned out, but one of the posts has a 1 or 2 degree wobble to it that annoys me.
>>2878372ugly
>>2878335It depends, on real poly it is often recommended for adhesion and because it doesn’t level very well. On acrylic (or acrylic with added poly) varnishes you only sand lightly before the final coat because it’s very easy to sand through the layers.After the first layer the grain will often come up a bit because they soak up the varnish, so you sand them off (often taking most of the first coat off with them).
>>2878372I like the joinery and think it’ll look great when finished but did nobody tell you that bed slats have a function and that they should be flexible instead of fixed
>>2877999why do people wear earmuffs for handtool and paintwork
>>2878439not all of them are fixed, just a few>>2878400fucked up the top, I need to make some nicer looking shims to get the width right.
>>2878444Have you never hit something really hard with a hammer or a mallet?
is "engineered wood" basically just plywood with a thicker constructional veneer glued on top?I inherited a few square meters of 2.5mm constructional veneer and I'm wondering if I could ghetto some "engineered wood" treads out of that for my stairs
>>2878503It's a blanket term covering literally all of the different subtypes of "we took some wood apart and glued it back together" materials
>>2878504the use case makes sense to me though, I was thinking of doing something like this dude https://youtu.be/AI1poE8dn10 except with the constructional veneer on top of / instead of the plain plywood because I bet that would wear out way too fast
>charge only minimum wage + materials for your work
>>2878499you're not forging
What’s the best clear poly varnish? I’m willing to import, poly is crazy expensive here and more and more ‘good stuff’ gets banned or disappears.I’m looking for something that can preferably be used single coat but 2 is fine, satin gloss, that doesn’t cure in the bottle within 2 months after opening.
>>2878795The acrylic water based polys stay the most transparent, but oil based have higher durability. I almost always go for looks and just layer up with abrasives between layers. Wax and steel wool after if that's what I'm into. memes like hard wax oils are the expensive route. Without first hand use, I'm unconvinced they're not simply finishing oils dissolved into waxes. There's probably a rabbit hole of clear lacquers you could spray.
>>2878795Not poly but shellac flakes. Dissolve in 190 proof grain alcohol, high quality denatured alcohol (only a little methanol or else it's unsuitable), or 90%+ isopropyl alcohol. I haven't tried isopropyl myself but have heard it works if you can't obtain proper purity of ethanol. Shellac flakes will keep a long time. You want to do more like 3 or 4 coats, but the drying time between coats is measured in minutes, and it's very forgiving of fuckups. Shellac flakes will keep a long time, but once you mix some up there is a period of a few months where you should use it. Mixing a new batch takes about half a day for it to all dissolve, with occasional stirring. Shellac isn't as durable as poly, but is also trivial to repair.
>Coffer>Trunk>ChestI just want to build a box with a lock, why must it be this confusing?
>>2878803>>2878837Sorry for I didn’t mention I use it for outdoors and high contact stuff (for other stuff just cheap acrylic). I think it has to be poly as the other stuff is much weaker in my experience (except for epoxy but that has other issues) tho I’m open to non-poly suggestions that can be used outside and can be like walked on
why are some people's chisels so short esp the older ones have they really been grinding and sharpening it for so long that it's only a fraction of the length it was originally
>>2878961Yes but also chisels were often just plain shorter directly off the factory line in the past and a lot of people fell for the butt chisel meme.
>>2878961Japanese chisels are usually pretty stubby looking even when new.
>>2878837> shellac — use only a little methanolI would think that 100% methanol would be the best… it’s the smallest molecule of the alchohol and generally the best solvent.Once the shellac has dried, the methanol should be gone if it’s the poisonous aspect you’re worried about.
>>2878795> best polyI usually get that stuff intended for re-finishing floors. Should be relatively plentiful and it’s extremely durable.I use it as a top-coat on shelves so books and shit doesn’t stick to the shelf.
>>2879029You're probably right, but the denatured alcohol that's got a lot of methanol is also cut with other shit that turns into gooey sludge with shellac that never dries. My experience with 190 proof grain alcohol from the liquor store on the other hand, has been that it's perfect. If you don't have a well ventilated area and good gloves, you really shouldn't work with pure methanol, otherwise fuck it, why not?
>>2874334>Do you have big muscles as a result of hand tool autism?I have big muscles because of moving signal equipment transit cases around while I was in the Army.
>>2877999You don't need to be alone with your thoughts with your hearing protection on:https://isotunes.com
>>2878837If you want to speed it up you can get a magnetic stirrer for $20-30.This little bedroom side table I made is walnut with only clear spray shellac applied.
>>2879101When I worked in a shop I would put on earmuffs and forget I had them on and end up wearing them for like six hours. Nice peace and quiet.
>>2879103metal can do everything wood can do whats the point of wood stuff
>>2879142>Looks good>Feels nice>Can last forever if made right and cared for>Doesn't rust/corrode
stone mogs wood for many applications
>>2879160idk stainless steel can look quite good for most thingsmetal easily beats wood for durability doesn't rust but does rot aluminium copper and stuff don't even degrade from rust>>2879175wood does mog stone for quick and easy building moving, shaping, laying stone takes forever
fucks with people using brush to apply glue how do you clean that
>>2879175Stone? Stone cracks, and is heavy.Carbon fiber (and,eventually, nanotubes) is where it’s at.I’m going to drop woodworking and make everything out of carbon fiber from now on.
>>2879175instead of trying to make a heritage piece you can make something that requires demo work to even remove.
>>2879231Water
>>2879231>how do you clean thatEither use a silicone brush and it just pulls off after it's dry, or use a super cheap brush you just throw away after use.
How good are woodwork classes?I did woodwork/shop in High School but I can't remember muchI'm going to look if there are any intensive classes, about 5-10 hours a weekAnything I should look out for?
>>2879321Rockler and Woodcraft both do in-store classes.
>>2879290that would be a lot of brushes to throw away
>>2879420I mean you can get them for next to nothing in massive bulk packs but as >>2879285 said, PVA is water soluble. You literally just wash them in cold water.
>>2879247Carbon fiber literally unravels like fabric on a single scratch
I have some old barn cedar boards I'm making into closet guts but idk what finish it with. This is my first project (yes I cropped out my fuckup).
>>2879803Are you planning to have a quick finish over the wood itself or do you want to trim and veneer it somehow? If the former, I've found multiple applications of Danish oil goes well with barn cedar (you can even pick a stained Danish oil), and then one final coat of shellac on top at the end.
>>2879806Yeah the first one, thanks Ill get some cans to test out. Just wanted something that I can put clothes on and not get them dirty/stained.This thing is going to weigh 400lbs just to hold up 8lbs of clothes. Had to do something with the old barn. Might resaw the extras into 2 3/4 boards and use them for floorboards.
>>2879803those fancy shuttered doors don't deserve these insides
>>2879820Doors cost as much as a single one of the cedar boards retail
Sup wwg thanks for the tips on hiding screws for my handrail. I ended up not using a plug drill because I couldn’t find a good one. Got a 20mm holesaw instead that happens to be perfectly 16mm on the inside. Had to only lightly tap the plugs with a mallet to get them in. Used skylt 5510 which is pretty nice to work with
