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Does /diy/ have any experience with any home security solutions? I see Amazon ring is kind of attractive but not sure I'm willing to have Amazon botnet in my home.
>If it's not clear then I mean when you're not home
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Three dogs in your house.
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>>2876213
move out of niggerville
t. not sure if i even have a key for my front door
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You can choose between Amazon botnet, China botnet, or disabled China botnet if you create a separate LAN for them that can only access a local server. Also zigbee running via Zigbee2MQTT prevents all the cheap chink smart devices from phoning home in any way. Of course, anything on wireless can be jammed easily, but Jamal probably doesn't think that far.
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>>2876216
Thats exactly what I have a livestock dog outside a a full Belgian Malinois and two of his sons. Things get a tad spicy with 3 male dogs but as the Alpha I am I keep them controlled.
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>>2876213
Burglar portrayals are the last bastion of showbiz that hires 100% white men.
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>>2876219
I'm really not but I am not home for days at a time and
>Tfw no wife
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I do not, but I think most autonomous security as logging entry, first responders need safe access so you're limited. A unique grey area is foggers. Technically first responders can navigate in smoke, but a burglar is going to be frightened as the fear of the unknown grips them and there is limited time for secondary theft
Tldr: log entries, fog and call
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>>2876213
>home security solutions
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>>2876262
You're gonna be sweating continuously, dude. I went through this. Two options:
> Install fully monitored alarm system and make sure it's TIGHT - nothing annoys cops, like an alarm system that starts screaming, when a cat walks by or the heat kicks on.

>Fully lock down the house. I mean security doors, with SERIOUS locks (no home depot shit), metal, lockable shutters on the windows and bushes cut down with motion floodlights. Garage doors immobilized when you're gone (run a bolt through the track and the door mounting hardware).
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>>2876213
If you get motion detector activated lights around your apartment/house, that honestly scares most burglars and crackheads off before they even try. Just fucking light the place up anytime anyone gets within 15-20 feet. Super deterrent and you're not pissing off cops or even using a botnet, just a few motion sensors and some easy string lights. False positives don't really matter either.

Obviously if someone gets in the house you want a Beretta A300 or whatever with some fat birdshot. If you're not there often, I don't know. Good insurance policy that covers burglaries. Lock everything up, I guess. Maybe do some giant IQ play putting motion-activated high-detail cameras near sensitive stuff but you know. Most dickweeds sit on stolen shit for like a year before pawning unless they're super retarded so cops can't do much.
You know what you can do? Fucking screw everything expensive down with ridiculously weird bits. Zero chance that a burglar brought a T40 bit and drill to get your wall mounted tv or whatever. Get creative.
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>>2876213
A gun and some cameras because I'm too lazy to go around the house. But good luck trying to get inside unless you ram a semi truck in my walls.
God bless you unknown previous boomer owner who made the house from ICF.
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>>2876213
>thief
>white
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Get good insurance and backup data you would mind losing is the first thing, I have cloud backups and bring a hard drive with me if I travel and honestly feel pretty calm about the odds of my house getting broken into having that.
A good alarm system with video surveillance usually doesnt cost that much either and it will bring your insurance policy down to have it, so the cost is offset somewhat.
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>>2876213
If you're American, build a tall concrete fence out front with barbed wire on top. Like a Brazilian or South African.
No one else needs to see your lawn
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The way I would do this is as follows

1. $25 chinkshit RDIF reader and token, put it inside, use the token as your key-ring. Rather than access just use it to arm the system. No matter how someone breaks in, or how easy it was for them to break in, the alarm will still go off because they can't disarm the system.
2. sensors. magnetic sensors are the cheapest and fine for doors, RDIF are hard to install, physical motion sensors are great to secure things like cars,bikes. I argue for their use within the perimeter rather than on the perimeter. if the window is physical security, the fly screen is where you put the alarm.
3. the alarm signal itself. You can get apps for your phone, telecom devices that text you, really loud horns, combinations of.

And this way you gain critical capacity for under $50.

Second you want a soft perimeter, which stops creeping attacks. Like a jogger who throws a basketball into your yard, jumps the fence. Throws basketball through your window, sees if anyone comes, opens the window, goes in to get ball. you are simply denying intruders a plausible approach. Signs like no trespassing, a wire fence, a dog, a flashing light, something which forces an intruder to leave or commit. all things being equall I'd get a dog, if you have no dog a flashing strobe that works on RDIF.
Often a thief will be someone you know, who will argue that you invited them in and were just not there at the time. they may know your dog.

Third is hard security, something like a safe. window bars, chains. the value here is to stop smash and grab attacks where the thief makes no attempt to be sneaky.

Fourth is evidence, camera. if you hate globohomo you can just use emplaced cameras that delete their own footage periodically, but I warn you that the old footage is increasingly recoverable digitally and you could be gathering evidence against yourself.
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>>2876213
ring doorbells are useless. I have one, and when someone rings the doorbell, IF my phone gets the notification, by the time I unlock my phone, get the app open, and IF the app connects to the camera, most impatient pricks have scampered off. Also on the few occasions I have tried to talk to someone who stuck around long enough they couldn't hear me.
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>>2879596
>like an alarm system that starts screaming, when a cat walks by or the heat kicks on.
no op, I have never had a false alarm from anything like that in 30 years.
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>>2879610
>If you get motion detector activated lights around your apartment/house
My 2 cents worth: Some burglars aren't frightened off by the obvious motion detector/floodlight combo. I wired my motion detectors to the recessed (architectural) lighting around my house. And a few interior lights. They don't associate any of these with being motion activated and figure someone heard something and turned lights on.
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>>2880330
In that 30 years everything has been exported to China.
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>>2880413
>>2879610
I wonder if burglars would be more scared by a searchlight that follows them around and shines in their face. Kind of want to build that for teh lulz.
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>>2881811
It's already possible to get cameras that automatically move to track people. Sling a searchlight underneath it and have it get triggered by certain kinds of movement in certain timeframes, would work well. As a bonus, would also help you when you're outside doing shit late at night if for some reason you need to do something after dark.
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>>2876216
>Three dogs in your house.
Put numbered tags on their collars:
#1, #2, #4.
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>>2876213

Overall
> Avoid plastics and synthetics are they are a fire hazard.

Doors
> Secure the door frame to the studs in the wall with 6 inch screws and metal/rubber washers. Consider putting another full length stud next to the other one.
> Get 4 heavy duty stainless steel hinges for the doors.
> Put a single 6 inch screw through each hinge slot.
> Use high quality Abus locks that have minimum 2 inch deadbolts.
> Use a heavy duty stainless steel strike plate for the doors.
> For the exterior doors, use a heavy steel or wooden door with a steel exterior. For interior doors, use wooden exterior doors.
> Have peep holes on exterior doors.

Walls
> For exterior walls, use something more than the cheapest thinnest wood products like OSB. Thicker plywood is good. Solid wood is very good, but extremely labor intensive. Even better is masonry such as concrete blocks, filled with rebar and either concrete if you want maximum security or pumice infused concrete if you want insulation.
> Have walls that are thicker than 2x4s. 2x6s are probably good enough unless you live further north than Ohio. Decoupled interior walls are even better.
> Fill the walls with something that is not harmed by moisture or fire such as expanded clay aggregate or pumice.
> Cover the walls with 1/4 inch plywood or solid wood paneling.
> Install generous conduits for electricity, internet, and plumbing.
> Consider installing a wired home phone system, laundry chutes, a dumb waiter, hidden passages/rooms, and other things.
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>>2882959

Windows
> Use detachable bars over your windows that are up to code with your fire department so you don't burn to death.
> Use glass/plastic/glass (ballistic glass) in your windows, or at least a ballistic film.
> Consider using one of those hurricane screens along with the bars.
> Consider using functioning shutters on your 2nd and above floor windows.
> Windows that do open should open in such a way that it's hard to get into.
> Plant thorny and poisonous plants below the windows.
> Use privacy films and films that bend/diffract light to send it further into the house.

Floors
> Install generous conduits for electricity, internet, and plumbing.
> Install drains under rooms with water for fast draining in case of leaks.

Porch
> Have a lockable gate to access your porch, and bars or screens over the windows/gaps.

Paint
> Do not use synthetic paints anywhere - they trap moisture which leads to rot. Instead use lime washes with colorings of your choice, brick facades, lime stucco, or something that is moisture friendly. Favor colors against which people and dark things stand out.

Fence/Wall/Hedge
> Build a 3 or 4 foot retaining wall (irregular triangular shaped that uses soil to weigh it down) or soil berm. Put your fence or hedge on that for added privacy.
> Use thorny plants for the hedge.

Driveway
> Use one of those cattle fence gates that levers up the driveway fence when you drive over it, but otherwise stays down. This way you don't have to get out to open it. Also have a pedestrian gate in the fence.
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>>2882959
>>2882962
Screw length is a fucking retarded meme. You do not get any added security. Screws fail under sheer loads, which is what happens when you ram a door. They could be 30 feet long and will still sheer off at the fucking head.
No one is cladding a house in plywood. You would be burning literally 10s of thousands of dollars to do so.

Fuck your ChatGPT horseshit man. Why even bother?
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>>2882962
Outdoors
> Put heavy concrete planters filled with gravel and then some hardy thorny plant next to the doors and under windows, so you have hard cover in a firefight.
> Put either a buzzer/doorbell combo or an actual talking horn outside your house or on your porch.
> Install a sprinkler system and have it run at night once it gets dark, and make some spigots motion activated.
> Have a small dog (noisemaker) and a big dog (defender).

Foundation
> Have good drainage, follow all the usual rules - if your house washes away, it is not secure.
> Do not allow any little nooks and crannies for hobos to crawl into.

Active Solutions
> Most crimes are committed by a tiny percentage of the population. Removing their ability to commit crimes will permanently reduce the crime rate in your area.
> The police do not investigate assaults anywhere near as hard as they do homicides.
> The police tend to half-ass investigations of crimes committed against criminals.
> An injection of feces into the thumb of a dominant hand of a criminal will probably ensure that criminal never commits another theft in their life. This also mimics the effects of hard living or drug abuse that these criminals use.
> Hammer blows to the thumb and pointer finger works just as well.
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>>2882965
> Screw length is a fucking retarded meme. You do not get any added security. Screws fail under sheer loads, which is what happens when you ram a door. They could be 30 feet long and will still sheer off at the fucking head.
If you buy the cheapest, thinnest screws to go with a heavy duty hinge, then yes it will fail. I though would be implicit to not do that, but I see I have to state everything openly for you mouth breathers.

> No one is cladding a house in plywood. You would be burning literally 10s of thousands of dollars to do so.
And your house won't fall apart in a hurricane if you build it as it was built 60+ years ago. But enjoy living in your cardboard box.

> Fuck your ChatGPT horseshit man. Why even bother?
Also all of this shit is old lore from colonizing diverse neighborhoods, commonly used by immigrants who do so. I doubt you'd even know what a ChatGPT post looks like.

Overall your post smells of demoralization.
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>>2882974
If you’re building a house in a rough, up and coming neighborhood, there is absolutely no room in construction costs to build a tank to fend off crackheads and niggers like you’re suggesting.
Fuck, even in good neighborhoods I still see retards using tyvek on new construction.
Also, so many of those old houses 60+ years ago are the same/worse stick frame shit you deal with today. Subbing plywood for osb does literally nothing. Not to mention OP is asking for advice for an established residence, not ways to build a fucking castle. A stick frame piece of shit castle based on your recommendations, ChatGPT bot
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>>2876213
Movement sensor lights and a loud alarm are the most practical. Though if niggas want your shit they gonna steal your shit. Don't tell niggas you own shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTe0cdxdSEo
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>>2876231
China botnet is best
China can't control me
If I lived in China I would spend extra for non chinese goods for the same reason
>>2876233
>should I get a ring doorbell?
>no you should get three guard dogs you have to fight with
do you not see how fucking stupid you sound?
dude wants advice on electronic security systems, not how to dig a mote to fill with piranhas or start a local gang
use context clues for fuck's sake
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>>2882262
then add a gun to it so I could shoot niggas without having to go outside
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>>2882975
not that anon but plywood does it's job 1000% better than OSB ever could
if I were a dictator I would outlaw OSB, and then put toothpicks in every beef jerky package
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>>2876213
A timer to switch on Lights/TV in the evening.
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>>2883010
Make sure to put random times at night for late night snacks.
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>>2883006
>toothpicks in beef jerky packages.
Fucking brilliant. I'm voting for this benevolent tyrant.
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>>2882975
>If you’re building a house in a rough, up and coming neighborhood, there is absolutely no room in construction costs to build a tank to fend off crackheads and niggers like you’re suggesting.
>Fuck, even in good neighborhoods I still see retards using tyvek on new construction.
1. Stop being poor.
2. You'll pay extra anyways when tweakers/beaners decide to enter your house through the walls with hammers & prybars, may as well do it up front, swarthoid.
3. If you actually read my OP (were you able to read) you'd remember the part about masonry being best.

>Also, so many of those old houses 60+ years ago are the same/worse stick frame shit you deal with today. Subbing plywood for osb does literally nothing. Not to mention OP is asking for advice for an established residence, not ways to build a fucking castle. A stick frame piece of shit castle based on your recommendations, ChatGPT bot

I built slums for a section 8 landlord in Ohio during the 2000s, this was SOP for african-proofing houses. 1/4” plywood under drywall was the big difference as they would carve up wood paneling & watching the break hands punching it was hilarious. We also had drains in every room under carpet because they are animals.



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