>>2887062
Lithium Ions don’t work in the cold, so they’re making them to be stored in your well-stretched anus now? As expected, I guess.

>>2887062
Doesn’t the Milwaukee heated jacket just run on the little m12 adapter? Pretty sure you can use the usb on that to charge your battery. I was actually tempted to get one of these, I know it’s a gimmick but it would be kind of nice to be able to warm up a little on those cold worksite mornings then turn it off as the sun comes up. I also have a variety of phone power banks, and was considering switching over to using m12 for everything, but can’t find a good conversion for how much phone charge you get from a power tool battery.

>>2887062
There is literally no improvements between this and the Milwaukee heated gear. They still only heat your back and chest. The only improvement these companies could make would be heating the sleeves, neck area, pockets. Milwaukee recently released a slimmer battery pack that connects to an app and can charge your phone. They've also had m12 top off adapters that can be used to charge your phone, power the jacket, and charge an m12 battery.

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Mods delete this thread OP is retarded

Every brand of tool has had heated jackets with USB ports for at least 5 years buddy

>>2887062
Somehow I think nobody actually asked for heated vests the cordless tool brands were just ‘what else can we do with it’ and decided on a stupid gadget like this would.

Not even everest climbers or mountain rescue teams or alaskan snow miners wear heated vests

>>2887083
>but can’t find a good conversion for how much phone charge you get from a power tool battery.
Look at the watt-hour rating (Wh) on batteries. That will tell you. Subtract maybe 10%-20% for whatever conversion losses and you will get your amount of charges.

1W = 1V x 1A. So if you have a phone with a typical lithium battery, it’s going to be 3.6/3.7V, let’s call it 4V for simple math and because M12 batteries are actually 10.8/11.1V and not 12V (3 lithium battery cells in parallel). Phone battery is about 3000mAh-4000mAh, that’s going to be 3Ah x 4V = 12Wh. M12 2Ah battery is 12V x 2Ah = 24Wh. M12 4Ah battery is 48Wh. So 2 phone charges off a small M12 battery, 4+ full phone charges off a 4Ah+ M12 battery. Your 10,000mAh Anker power bank you normally use to chargr the phone will be 10Ah x 4V, so 40Wh (assuming it’s an honest rating and not some aliexpress Chinesium battery that claims 200000mAh and has sand-filled cells).

Most batteries will have the Wh rating on the bottom of it if you read the fine print.

Your body dissipates over 200W of heat doing light work, this stupid jacket is given to the wives of contractors most frequently so at least they get a bit of use out of the battery system that doesn’t work well (and is shelved) in the cold during winter.
Helps with the battery cycling and the whole buying of more batteries.

Battery operated heaters are insane levels of jumping the shark, it’s the most inefficient use of its meager stored energy yet devised.

>>2887117
>200w
>light work
so clueless man, so fucking clueless. human body doesnt need a lot of energy to stay warm when youve got proper clothing, and modern batteries are more than capable of giving that extra boost during bricklaying, flooring, plumbing or whatever "light work" you mean.

>>2887117
>your body dissipates blah blah
You’re thinking of this the wrong way, the goal isn’t to provide heat for your entire body, it’s to add a little adjustable warmth to keep you COMFORTABLE. Hand warmers are a massive market for a reason, think of these as reusable hand warmers. Something to have in your pockets or socks to keep you toasty while you drink your coffee before you get moving and start your day. Or something to fire up when you go outside to start the vehicles/load your box/unload the truck… then go back inside. I would agree they’re massively overpriced, maybe they need to be over engineered for safety? Idk. To me they’re not yet worth it, but if I was still working up north and had to go outside in -10 deg with windchill several times a day… I’d be tempted

>>2887087
>They still only heat your back and chest.
>3 zones
pick one

>>2887062
Wrong places to heat. Should have been fore arms and neck to keep end bits warm.

>>2887218
> mexican guy, extra boost
Lol, you’d need boost in your extremities… not on your chest and back.
t. guy who lives in cold place

>>2887083
I have the M12 jacket, it's OK, not worth $200 at full price.
The m12 adapter has a USB A port for charging a phone but it's only the very basic in fast charging. (9v 1.5amp output)
It uses micro USB to charge m12 batts but it's only 5v/2amps and EXTREMELY picky about the USB port it'll charge from.
The M12 adapter will sometimes only pull 0.12amps from the USB port so it's basically not charging even if it says it is. Other ports it'll draw 1 amp, on some it'll pull the full 2 amps. It's effectively only 10w of m12 charging when the basic wall charger is 36w
They have a new version called the m12 top off with USB c but it's still only 15w bidirectional.

M12 batts have plenty of capacity otherwise. Not sure what is so difficult to make a decent charger. They could literally use PPS and directly charge M12 or even M20 batteries at 60w and 100w respectively just from the USB C port voltage.
Of course maybe you shouldn't buy tech products from a tool company.

>>2887287
I wonder if the m18 one is any better? I liked the idea of being able to use m12 since it wouldn’t be an issue to just grab one off the charger and keep it in my jacket pocket… even the smaller m18 batteries seem a little large for that. Have you tried any of the 3rd party adapters? I’ve heard Milwaukee keeps their tech in the battery, stuff like overdraw shutoff… so theoretically a 3rd party tool/adapter shouldn’t fry your new battery? But I’m not sure how accurate that is

>>2887464
The M18 probably won’t draw much more power. If there was a jacket that was wanting more power than a 12V pack could put out, it would be pulling so much power that the batteries would be dead in 20min.

As for the adapters, they’re going to add size. They would probably work in that application. The protection in the pack varies by company, like DeWalt uses circuitry in the tool and chargers and M18 tools have protection in the battery and the tools don’t really need to pay attention. So if you use an adapter to put DeWalt batteries with no protection in M18 devices with no protection, you risk overdischarging the DeWalt battery.

>>2887487
>faggot doesn’t understand the question, doesn’t understand why it’s being asked, has no experience or expertise with the subject matter. Repeats exactly what you said with no new information as if they answered you.
Why do you feel the need to do that? I legitimately can’t understand you people.

>>2887581
>answered the question about which batteries should be safe with adapters, but you should consider the size
>explained that M18 probably isn’t going to be much better because that’s not a max watt device
Anon, you have never been the same since you walked in on your sister being gangbanged by tripfriends

>>2887679
You didn’t answer the question at all. I clearly already knew that “Milwaukee keeps their overdraw protection in the battery while other brands put it in the tool”.
>heh… as an expert let me explain… you see… if Milwaukee keeps their overdraw protection in the battery… but other brands don’t… then you wouldn’t want to put a dewalt battery on a Milwaukee tool with an adapter. Don’t you see? You see how smart I am? Please tell me I’m smart this is all I have… please.
And the part about m12 vs m18 is clearly me asking if the actual Milwaukee adapter has better output when charging a device, and the form factor, nothing to do with the jacket specifically. Unless you have experience with the m18 adapter you’re literally just guessing and then trying to pass it off as experience/knowledge. The real issue is that you’re a redditor to your bones, but don’t get enough attention there or are in denial about it or something.

>>2887218
You probably should go back (closer to the equator where youre from)

>>2887218
>>2887253
For the $200 it costs you can get clothes that reduce your heat loss more than the measly 20W that the jacket adds. Your body won’t even get most of the heat from

> I don’t need to stay warm I just need the outer layer of my skin to feel warm in order to be able to do a task outside
Then get one