My brother put an offer in on this house and it's got this garage. We're wondering how difficult/expensive it'd be to raise the roof 3-4 feet so that we could turn the loft into a studio.I'm assuming that since it's already half cinderblock and the roof is basically just sitting on top it wouldn't be that difficult.I've never done framing but is this all it would be?>cut 4 of the studs and put jacks under them>cut the rest of the studs and jack it up level>Put extensions under the studs and double half of them, or just replace them entirely>extend the existing electrical, run water lines for a kitchenette and bathroom>frame out an exterior door , windows and outside stairs>fill in the sidingI have no idea how much this would cost in materials,maybe $5-10k?Other than having to be very careful during the actual raising of the roof this would be fairly easy to DIY, right?
I have no idea what I'm talking about but I don't think it would be a viable option without an exorbitant amount of engineering and planning. Even if it's just timber there are still large amounts of pressures and it would likely distort and/or fall apart.It would be much simpler and logical to tear it down and build a new one.
>>2891686Ensure his town/county allows ADUs before bothering with any planning, much less work.
>>2891703>Even if it's just timber there are still large amounts of pressuresIt's like 22x22 and already on top of a cinderblock foundation, if anything I'd just need to run a couple extra 2x6's across the floor where the kitchenette is. I'm not in some Yuro country like Germany where the codes are insane.
Build a new roof over it, then dismantle the old one from the inside, and re-use the rafters for the interior walls and floor.The roof is sagging in the middle anyway, so…
>>2891686>I'm assuming that since it's already half cinderblock and the roof is basically just sitting on top it wouldn't be that difficult.anything you don't understand, must be easy.
>>2891686 Get your own place and stop freeloading on your relatives or eventually they will hate you.
>>2891780>muh everyone in the family needs to have their own shit Jewish conditioninghe literally asked me to move in with him to halve his mortgage payment
>>2891786It would be smarter to find a house that works without major renovation.
>>2891787this is already a 3brI am literally just asking about the feasibility of this particular future improvement project
first of allyou would have to go look at the inside and see how it was built, if you can treat it as one big section or not
>>2891771it's a timber roof which means if it was light enough to do what you want, it would be too light to hold itself up.
>>2891686I am a structural engineer. Existing code will not allow you to do so.
>>2891787how fucking disconnected can you be from today's housing market
>>2891833they lift entire houses in place
>>2891834code varies wildly between municipalities
>>2891839No it literally doesn't. They all refer to some version of the IBC and each will make code enforcement say "no".
>>2891775interesting how do you even do that when the old one is resting on the walls
>>2891838you mean prefab houses made out of composite materials?
>>2891853>you mean prefab houses made out of composite materials?Not that anon, but there have been tons of timber built houses jacked up and moved around for ages...
>>2891856this is true but an entire house is not a roof. How many roofs have been removed from the house, jacked up, and then built onto? Not many, if any.But I may be wrong. I still think it would be easier to just tear it down, or renovate build on rather than trying to raise it.
>>2891859>But I may be wrong. I still think it would be easier to just tear it down, or renovate build on rather than trying to raise it.You're not wrong there. Just rip off the roof, extend the walls, and build a new roof, because as you or someone above said this one's fucked anyways with that crazy sag.
>>2891861This is the answer. I knew a guy who added a 2nd story to his house this way, and my dad was considering doing it to his house before my mom talked some sense into him about how a new staircase made no sense for two retired people. The old roof goes, and you build up on the foundation from there.
>>28918613rd this. Whatever the roof is made of, it’s already nearing the end of its lifespan looking at the sag. It is 99% likely to be cheaper to re-do it because you’d need to rent multiple cranes or hydraulic jacks for probably multiple days and retrofit it with electrical, plumbing etc. For new it’s just a day of demolishing, a day of brick work/framing and then a day of roofing
>>2891686I would slash it around the top like a tree so it could be jacked up by the top plates or incrementally shimmed to the new height. I've moved house beam joists to level floors. I've shimmed and moved around countertops. You have a lot of weight in that roof. If you were to move this, you need to temporarily secure the side that isn't being raised. We use a lot of temporary walls in remodeling projects. The important thing is to ensure that you're eliminating the possibility of the weight sliding away from you.
>>2891688Good lord, that sag. Remove and replace the roof. I'm going to do the same thing to my garage, which was constructed in the mid 1950's with leftover materials.If I were in your situation, I would:>disassemble existing roof and wood wall>install new floor joists, at least 2x10's. You can leave the existing 2x6's in place.>build upstairs wall to at least 4ft at lowest point>put a window or two in>use ridge beam style roof to maximize available space - consider skylights too>cover with non-ugly siding or cedar shingles>do NOT install an upstairs exterior door w/ stairs - it will attract attention and there is already a door downstairs.>>2891708Consider this, anon. You will certainly have no issue getting a permit to replace the roof on the garage, but as far as the permit/inspection stuff goes, I would tell them about replacing the roof and *nothing* more. Once the new roof is installed, inspected, and the permit closed, only then should you start on the improvements that will make it a studio. Before that, ONLY frame/sheath the walls and rebuild the roof. Do not do anything that would suggest you plan to use that space for more than storage.Permit for the roof is probably needed just because it will be a massive exterior change that is easily noticed. When it comes time to finish the interior + do plumbing/electric, keep all of the construction activity low-key. Just pointing this out because if your municipality thinks you are building an ADU, they will shut that shit down and force you to get all kinds of permits and BS.
>>2891998this is what I was looking for, thanks anon
