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Last Thread: >>2980187
Alright Prints Edition

>Your print failed? Go to:
www.simplify3d.com/support/print-quality-troubleshooting

>Calibrate your printer.
ellis3dp.com/Print-Tuning-Guide/
teachingtechyt.github.io/calibration.html

If that doesn't help you solve your problems, post:
>A picture of the failed part
>Printer make & model
>Filament type/brand
>Slicer & slicer settings

>What printer should I buy? [52/40/10 :detadpU tsaL]
Do your own research, but if you gotta ask; just buy whatever Bambu fits your budget.
DIY: reprap.org/wiki/
SLA: >>>/tg/3dpg

>Where can I get things to print?
www.thingiverse.com/
thangs.com/
printables.com/
grabcad.com/
www.yeggi.com/
cults3d.com/
www.stlfinder.com/
google.com/
T*legr*m

>What CAD software should I use?
Free to anyone: FreeCAD, Fusion360, Onshape, TinkerCAD,
Free to me: Autodesk Inventor, AutoCAD, Solidworks, Rhino, Solid Edge
Autistic /g/oobers: OpenSCAD, OpenJSCAD, CadQuery
Participation medal entries: PTC Creo, Solvespace
Mesh free-forming and modeling: Blender
Architects: Sketchup

>What slicer should I use?
For everyone: Cura, PrusaSlicer, BambuStudio for Bambu owners.
For enthusiasts: SuperSlicer, OrcaSlicer
For autists: Pleccer/SuperPleccer, Kiri:Moto, FullControl, IceSL

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I'm thinking of buying a chamber heater for my P1S. Any suggested brands? Should I go for something that draws power internally, or something that has it's own power supply that needs to be plugged in externally?
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>>2984675
We have brand products for chamber heaters now?
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man this shit is black magic sometimes
>trying to print some vertical print in place hinges
>6mm hinge doesn't give me any warning but fuses together badly
>10mm get a warning about floating geometry from the slicer
>but they print perfectly
same overhang angles, same offset, just more area, go figure
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>>2984683
>what are perimeter and line widths.
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>>2984684
but the mating surfaces that can get stuck are nested cones so the larger cone should contain an smaller cone identical to the first one that should print the same way and get stuck the same way
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>>2984687
you can typically get away with tighter tolerances on larger parts as the slicer is much more likely to be able to accurately path an extrusion that fits the geometry.
orca slicer has a setting in the preview tab where it lets you overlay actual geomtry onto a slightly transparent nominal.
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I just got a SOVL6 Plus Ace. They're a chinky brand, but their build quality isn't terrible. I've been using OrcaSlicer and I've gotten some alright prints so far, but I can't really find any real, helpful information about the printer, or settings that would be helpful. I was hoping someone on here could give me some insight as to whether I bought a piece of shit, or if my poor choices are redeemable.
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>>2984743
It's an alright PLA pusher. Too big for a bedslinger in my opinion.
If you can't describe what's exactly bothering you about it, there's not much help we can offer.
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Does PLA hold sharpie well? I have some fine details that are too small for a paintbrush or spray paint
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>>2984634
>cpap has a bit of lag on powering on to actually cooling
I was under the opposite impression, that by using a servo valve you could turn the airflow on and off far faster than a fan ramping up and down.

>>2984636
I dunno about you guys, but I prefer to flush after wiping.

>>2984743
You kinda fucked up, but if you don’t have any problems with the hardware then no problem. It’s when you have to contact support that you have trouble. Print some calibration prints so you can articulate which parts you’d like to improve.
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>>2984683
Anyone had an issue where freecad will produce a model that works perfectly inside freecad, but once exported it generates lots of artifacts on orcaslicer?
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>>2984756
You can get some ultra fine "detail brushes" that should run it smaller than a sharpie.
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>>2984782
Guess I can check out michaels for that, sounds pricey
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Printed an enclosure for my mSATA adaptor board to replace my Thinkpad X301's ancient 1.8" SSD. It actually snaps together snugly and fits perfectly in the laptop, but the PCB doesn't quite fit because I didn't measure it perfectly. Nothing a bit of sanding can't fix though, I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.
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>>2984759
>I was under the opposite impression
the issue is that the air takes time to go down the tube.
it doesn't take a long time, but its a noticeable issue, there are settings in some slicers to start the fan up early, but its a hassle.
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>>2984785
Got a 12 piece set off amazon for like 10 bucks.
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>>2984786
noice. I still have picrel knocking about where I replaced the disc drive with an ssd on one almost 13 years ago now.
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>>2984681
They all seem to be cheap Chinese shit, but I figured since I'm about to plug in something directly to the printer's power supply I may see if there's something reliable and not just dodge chink electronics.
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>>2984795
Drop a link dude
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>extruder motor barely crashes into vertical extrusions
>can fix it by moving the extruder forwards slightly
>the ptfe tube is no longer vertical
this is fine
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>>2984795
12 pc miniature brushes pacocoast. Just search that and it'll pop.
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Getting into this hobby has been a blast. It's like being a cartoon villain, using a shrink ray to steal Mt. Rushmore or something stupid.
Pretty sure this glow in the dark stuff is trashing this nozzle, as I'm getting strings for the first time with this model where the supports meet. Got a full set of hardened steel ones coming just to be safe.
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>>2984842
Glow in the dark stuff is pretty abrasive. Generally don't want to use it without a hardened nozzle.
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>>2984842
>>2984874
i have a copper with SiC tip, great heat transfer while being almost indestructable
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I got a golf club head printed in steel and it turned out great, but I think the surface is kinda porous because just the oil from my hands leaves a mark, and I don't think thats great for resisting rust and grass stains. Was thinking I'd polish it up and maybe hit it with some ferric chloride for a neat colour, but do you know anything that would like, seal it?
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>>2984986
resin
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Is there any cad program on linux that lets you create and comprehensively edit text in a sketch? Both freecad and onshape are awful for it, and ive been painfully getting by using orcaslicer's emboss feature
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>>2985006
I use inkscape to write whatever I want, convert object to path, export that as svg, import it into freecad, convert it to sketch and then pad it out or pocket it as needed.
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I printed pa6-cf20. It grew a lot and no longer fits in the hole I want to put it in. If I anneal, will it shrink back to print size permanently? Is shrinking it in the slicer the better option if annealing isn't beneficial?
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>>2984986
If it needs to be tough, an electroplate might fill in those gaps enough. Chrome probably. Otherwise a cold blue might be enough for stain resistance.
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>>2985006
>edit in a sketch
Wdym? Texts should be done in draft workbench, so you may still edit them later on. Or do you actually want a sketch to fiddle with specific letters?

>>2985018
It's nylon. As long as there's moisture in the air it will always grow a certain degree. See how far you can anneal it, put it in your hole and let it stay there.
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>TFW TMC2209 successor released two years ago
Has no one ever talked about this? I somehow completely missed it.
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>>2985018
>>2985057
Please don't put 3d printed stuff in your hole.
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learning 3D printing is fun
modeled this small(5cm) thingie from scratch and printed it to test some features I want to use in a larger project
>print in place conical hinges work perfectly
>latch works just fine though I gave it a little too much slack out of abundance of caution
>lattice printed fine if a little ugly, but no aesthetic considerations were made this time
buying a 3D printer was a much more enjoyable investment than anticipated
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>>2985058
because the conversation is all about multicolor flexidragons.
Some companies are looking to implement odrive/steppers with encoders but the cost of a failed print to the customer is nill compared to the cost of implementation.
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>>2985075
>ignores the top row of half diamonds
learn to fucking pattern bro
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>>2985006
fusion360 directly edit sketch in timeline text yes
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>>2985087
it's clearly on purpose to have less supports
you seem not very bright
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>>2985090
>done for less supports.
>printed sideways on.
anon...
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Is it possible to eliminate individual toolpaths?
The pic related blue lines will not work as a bridge, and I don't want to use supports for two fucking lines.
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>>2985095
Nevermind, figured it out with a a height range layer height modifier.
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>3D print a design.
>Screw thread to connect two aprts.
>Literally never works properly

I don't get it.
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>>2985058
You can buy plug in place 2226 modules since almost the same time. It's on you, anon. That said they're not that special besides higher voltage range and chip specific cooling.

>>2985083
I believe when i see it. A TMC4671 is still 15bucks a pop, plus encoder, mosfet and proper break resistor. We'll rather see full servo bldc implementations at that point.
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>>2984745
>>2984759

I appreciate the help, guys. I'm not having too much trouble, I'm just having a bit of buyers remorse, because the Bambu's look so fuckin clean. One question though, too big for a bed slinger? Is there anyway I can correct any problems that may arise?
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>>2985124
Larger bed means heavier bed means slower max Y movement. It's the most basic story why everyone jumped onto cube shaped printers. Doesn't matter for a beginner though, just stick with the recommended settings and focus on cad/modelling and slicing.
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>>2985091
Not with that hinge shape it wasn’t. Look at the layer lines, it was printed in the orientation it’s photographed in. That said, bridging shouldn’t have any issue with those flat half-diamond tops.

>>2985105
4671s are nice to have for sure, but a low-ish cost MCU like an ESP32S2 can do FOC for cheaper.
>servo BLDC
Yeah doesn’t really make sense using stepper motors with closed loop feedback. Switched reluctance motors would be more temperature resistant than permanent magnet motors, so might be a good fit for extruder motors in a heated chamber.
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>>2985148
>ESP32S2
Hilariously enough, that's the one without MPWM. Banter aside, i don't see that viable for mass scale, flashing and support will be hell. Bambu will copy Analog Devices and flood the market with a good price for incomparable tech. Just like DJI did. Frankly, i'm surprised they didn't already do so.
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>>2985158
Oh yeah it also has only one core, basically an improved 8266. Meant the S3, since it gets vector instructions, at least the SimpleFOC project recommends it over everything bar the Teensy 4.x and STM32H7 that cost significantly more. But even the base-level ESP32 is pretty good. Depending on the loop speed requirements, you could potentially run multiple motor FOC loops off one MCU.
>flashing
You can get chips programmed at the PCB fab house, but it would be more robust if you let your printer’s mainboard flash them directly, allowing for motor drive firmware updates. With an ESP32-like chip, the positional communication and flashing could both be done via the same UART pins, no bootloader needed, you’d just need an extra GPIO pin for the reset/boot pin on each slave MCU. I think most MCUs can communicate in normal operation over their ICSP pins so long as they’re not a single-wire protocol like DebugWire or UPDI or whatever the CH32V003 uses.

Though I would like to see TMC4671 equivalents hit the market, don't suppose you know of any?
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>>2984790
>the issue is that the air takes time to go down the tube.
Which is why, as anon mentioned, some setups use a valve to either direct the always-on CPAP-driven air either at the print or away, with the switch as fast as the valve can actuate.
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>>2984986
>I think the surface is kinda porous because just the oil from my hands leaves a mark
Oil from hands leaves a mark on clean metal in general.

>I don't think thats great for resisting rust and grass stains
Is there a porosity spec given by the metal printing service? Do you know the specific alloy?

>Was thinking I'd polish it up and maybe hit it with some ferric chloride for a neat colour, but do you know anything that would like, seal it?
Chlorides are generally corrosive. You might consider nickel plating it. Unlike chrome, that shouldn't need underlayers for compatibility.
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>>2985101
Learn tolerances.
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Halfway done with this filament weighing scale to go inside my filament drier. I’ll be printing some CF-PLA bearing blocks and annealing them to handle the heat, also a hollow bung to prevent the four strain gauge wires chafing on the aluminium there. I’ll also need to print a duct to feed a fan’s airflow through a PTC heating element, and a few housings for internal SHT35 temperature humidity sensors. And a venting door and surroundings to be actuated by a hobby servo.
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>>2985177
>TMC4671 equivalents
Nah, if there were, there'd be at least a thread about it on simpleFOC.
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>>2985204
I'm printing other people's designs.
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>>2985251
Don't know if you've looked into it more than I have, but the three existing ways of getting FOC motor control working would be the TMC4671, SimpleFOC, or VESC, right? That or writing it yourself. There seem to be some microcontrollers with a bit more motor specific hardware than an ESP32S3's motor PWM modes, that might make it a tiny bit easier, but usually those are just shitty gate drive hardware or shitty current sense amps that are better as external chips. Besides Trinamic's own TMC9660, which includes a RISC-V MCU core alongside dedicated FOC calculating hardware.

Actually from TI there is the MCF8315/8316 with built-in transistors, and the MCF8329A with (1A!) gate driving outputs, but it's sensorless only for some reason, so only useful for higher speed applications like drone motors or whatever. Same for the Allegro AMT49406.

I just found the Infineon IMC100 series of parts, which looks to be a functional equivalent to the TMC4671 in most ways (can't tell from the datasheet if it's capable of holding a desired position), it's definitely cheaper. Only 40kHz maximum PWM frequency though, so not very useful for my GAN ambitions.
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I've got my trusty old ender 3v2 which I've always used with pretty much the default profiles ever since I got it. It prints fine, but slow, got tired of that and want to fine tune it following https://www.orcaslicer.com/wiki/calibration/Calibration (mainly because of slicer built-in tests instead of having to fiddle with webpage-built gcode)

My question is, at what stage do I increase speed/acceleration? I assume after max volumetric speed calibration I get the maximum speed ceiling of what the extruder can churn out. Do I then set all permiter speeds and such to a fuckton and let the max.vol.spd to limit those then? If not, how do I find the correct values?
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>>2985267
yes

>>2985243
I just use a $10 kitchen scale zero on a matching empty spool and get it directly in g

>>2985203
>Oil from hands leaves a mark on clean metal in general.
pro tip if your buddy has a full suit of hema plate don't touch it
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>>2985101
>>2985257
so tolerances vary widely by layer height. a screw thread at 28mm fits very different than the same stl at 16mm. so idk lower your layer height and/or use variable layer height to tighten up the threads/hinges/pip shit.

also lrn2CAD my melanin enriched negro
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>>2985257
Then get some metric drill bits. Or standard one if you've already got them on hand and are a homosexual.
If it's just m3 I believe (you should check) a 3/32" will leave you with a bore small enough for the threads to bite into.
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>>2984042
275c and keeping the enclosure at 45-50c fixed it seems. Made this case for a Lora Esp32
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>>2985257
>I'm printing other people's designs.
>ishygddt
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>>2985267
I recommend flashing firmware with input shaping and linear advance enabled (add a crtouch while you’re there if you haven’t already), and go through the tuning process for those. Input shaping test prints set a maximum acceleration if I recall.
As for speed, while you can set a maximum speed like that, faster print speeds will result in weaker prints, and you’d have to do such a test for every type of filament. If you want to print faster, I’d upgrade to a bigger nozzle, if not a better hot-end.

>>2985286
>I just use a $10 kitchen scale zero on a matching empty spool and get it directly in g
This is going inside my drier. To measure filament weight loss from moisture egress.

>>2985327
Nice, though the inside seems to be a bit lacking in mounting hard points. What battery are you gonna gram in there? Also give us a close-up of your shadow-line.
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>>2985286
>pro tip if your buddy has a full suit of hema plate don't touch it
Traditional steel armor is oiled or otherwise coated to prevent rust. Does your buddy use anachronistic stainless armor?
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>>2985328
sometimes, shit I need already exists. Knowing how to spend 5-10 minutes searching can save hours of drafting and measuring.
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Has there been any progress in rooting the K1C 2025?
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>>2984756
yes it's fine but if you can't paint smaller than a sharpie that's a personal problem
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>>2985347
>is oiled
yeah and guess what happens when you put your hand on it
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>>2985334

Yeah, I got a crtouch, the sprite extruder, and mriscoc's firmware on a btt skr mini e3 v3, which I compiled with pressure avance and input shaping (tho I am unsure wether this board can do IS). Also I got a 0.6 nizzle coming my way.

I will look into the IS one as you say, when I get to that step. Thanks!

As for strength vs speed, maybe I can keep two profiles, one similar to default, another one with the speed-up.
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fucking hell. 35% relative humidity, inside of an eibos dryer that keeps it at 10%, and this shit still manages to go bad in 24 hours, probably less.
Siraya tech abs-cf25 core.
breaks half the time I try to load it, so full on the spool that the moment the taped end is removed it just wants uncoil itself and jump off the spool, and can't be left alone for more than a couple of hours.
that aside, I like it.
you'd think abs would be more resistant to moisture. fuck me. does anyone make a core filament that has a sensible amount of fibers, like 10-15% core and isn't basically a water sponge?
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>>2985366
I've also got a modded ender 3 v2. First thing I did was a dual-z screw mod and tie-rods, though in hindsight I'd have gone dual belted Z instead. Not really sure how much of a difference it makes. Just recently I got a K1 bed, it's significantly better than my cheap golden textured PEI bed on both sides. Also a TZ V3.0 hot end and customised HeroMe-derived cooling system. It's good being able to bridge. When compiling Marlin for the CRtouch, I also defined a nozzle brushing area for one of those silicone nozzle brushes held next to the bed on a bracket, and enabled "unified bed levelling" instead of the normal mesh system. Seems to work pretty well. I haven't tuned input shaping or linear advance yet though.

For what reason did you upgrade the mainboard? Did you have one with the non-silent stepper drivers?
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>>2985260
Yeah, i somewhat prefiltered in a "makes sense for 3d printers and doesn't require too much fiddling" sense and the later filters most. Else your thoughts are as far as mine. You can find some more interesting bridges and drivers when looking into drones, but i rather wait for that till i actually build a drone for myself.
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>>2985367
was it good before?
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About to start a 14 hour print, wish me luck anons.
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>>2985383
Yup. Here it is after it unspooled itself enough that the layer underneath were kept dry by the highly hygroscopic outer layers. the matte section feels almost styrene like, a little bit spongier and soft while the shiny portion feels properly solid. I couldn't split the part along the interface, so they've both abs and fused correctly.
Also helps that I set the dryer box at full tilt. This is all around 24 hours after I got a good print out of it. I've had nylons that re less fussy than this *ABS*. they've managed to make moisture sensitive abs.
>>2985391
embrace the 0.6 and 0.8 nozzle my negro.
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First time printing with a “fresh” roll of CF-PLA, this is the second print file. It wasn’t in a foil bag, is this looking fine? Dimensional accuracy is good even after annealing the first file on the bed though, which is great. But I’ll have to figure out a proper test to see if it’s really sufficiently heat resistant.

>>2985398
Well it is a fibre reinforced filament, apparently they’re all worse for moisture absorption, except maybe kevlar/aramid.
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>>2985362
You get oil on your hand from oiled metal. The preceding conversation was about oil from hands leaving a mark on clean metal.
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>>2985367
>and this shit still manages to go bad in 24 hours, probably less.
It's not unusual for a filament to absorb most of its water capacity in a day or so of open air exposure. Some things just experience worse consequences than others. But even PLA doesn't print as well when wet.
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>>2985412
issue is it wasn't in open air, it was in an eibos polyphemus set to maintain 10% rh. first attempt was so bad it led me to reslice, then to try to calibrate flow, before landing at *abs* absorbing moisture. I've had spools of abs left out for years and they've never needed drying. This particular one really is worse than nylons.
>>2985401
looks gud to me. so long as you aren't getting picrel boogers falling off the print you're probably fine.
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>>2985415
I am getting a few boogers, but not that big. I chalk them up to the extrusion ratio being a bit too high for the first print. Mainly just a few retraction artefacts, I haven't tuned retraction on this new hot end at all. Having no part cooling through the entire print might be making the print quality worse, but I just don't want it getting any funny ideas before the bed annealing process.

These will all be parts for the inside of my filament dry box (>>2985243).
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>>2985398
>embrace the 0.6 and 0.8 nozzle my negro.
I just picked them up cause they're on sale, but I'm not sure what they're specifically used for, is it just speed and lack of detail?
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>>2985429
Also arguably they make stronger prints, and wider nozzles are less likely to clog, which can be an issue with fibre-filled filaments. I only ever use 0.6mm nozzles since I never need the detail, arachne is pretty forgiving.
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So what's the best way to store filament long-term? The autistic part of me wants to make a vacuum sealed safe.

Anyway, here's my current print, slow going but so far it hasn't fucked up.
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>>2985431
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Frens, what the cheapest way to really dry out filament? I'm considering throwing a spool in an ammo can and putting the can on top of a hot plate timed to turn on/off every 5 minutes, or paint it vantablack and leave it in the sun.
Thoughts?
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>>2985437
I just put mine in the oven for an hour or two at 60C.
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>>2985378
Hahahaha no, the motherboard wasnt an upgrade, but a fix. My stepper motors were HOT and I fucked up a potentiometer trying to adjust it to reduce voltage.

The BTT was a cheaper and better (it even lets me control driver Vref by software, which mrsicoc firmware comes with UI support for), and I also assumed it better for pressure advance and such than creality boards, which I read about them having problems due to the drivers on those boards.

Ive considered dual Z axis, bu I just got tired of dumping money on tiny upgrades instead of saving for a newer, faster, better, bigger, multimaterial modern printer.
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>>2985437
How dry we talking? TPU with a managable amount of stringing that might just be from bad retraction settings? Or bone-dry immaculate CF-nylon?

>>2985441
Yeah fair enough. I doubt I'll be doing any further upgrades, besides maybe relocating my nozzle brush onto the gantry so I can clean the nozzle each layer, and maybe relocating the PSU and/or main-board so I can enclose the printer for ABS if I feel that's needed. I guess I'm waiting for INDX or something equivalent, the U1 looks good (I think pre-order prices end today) but I'd rather buy a printer that's designed to print higher temperature materials in the first place. Qidi's active cooler might be a useful addition if I ever want to print ABS/PC and TPU at the same time, though I doubt they'll be jumping into the toolchanger rat-race before Sovol and Creality stumble into it.
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Time to get some more filament.
Do you really have to have a separate nozzle just for printing TPU?
Also, ASA or ABS?
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>>2985455
ASA is equal or better in basically 99% of ways, but it's usually more expensive. Never heard of having to have a different nozzle, I just make sure to purge extra between material changes.
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>>2985429
I'm assuming your 14 hour print isn't a vasemode print that needs to be 0.4 wall thickness.
I'm also assuming that it's large enough to where 0.4mm wall thickness in certain features is a mechanical risk.
A 0.6 nozzle does two things. It makes your extrusion width 50% larger (where you previously had three walls you now have two walls) saving you time, and with fibered filaments it makes it less likely for a clog. The loss of detail on large-ish part is inconsequential, but it is there if you go looking for it and have a lot of features in your part that are less than the extrusion width. You can still retain your 0.2mm layer height or even 0.15 if you want.
>>2985430
I'm not entirely too convinced on the stronger prints thing, I've always though that originates from people leaving the number of perimeters the same between the various nozzle sizes leading to overall thicker or thinner walls.
>>2985431
I like the foil bags and the ezystorage latching bins with loads of desiccant.
>>2985437
microwave from the thrift store. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLfz6pbaqXY alternatively, your ammo can will need a vent to allow the humidity to leave, otherwise it does nothing. You can also just place your spool on the bed, heat it to the desired temperature, and place the filament box with the bottom cut out over the spool.
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>>2985455
If you can get good prints with ASA, you can get good prints with ABS at a fraction the cost.
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>>2985456
>>2985465
ASA and ABS cost the same in my neck of the woods. The only issue with both is they stink horribly when I print with them and I lose the room for however long I print for. ASA warps horribly if you're not prepared for it too.
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>>2985466
>ASA and ABS cost the same in my neck of the woods.
hopefully it's because ASA is cheap, right?
anyway, you might notice that a kilo of either goes considerably further than a kilo of pla.
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>>2985464
The 0.6 or even 0.8 mm nozzle would probably be fine for the thing I'm currently printing, there's no fine details. I'll order some for next time, I'm sure it won't be the last time I print big parts.
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>>2985469
just make sure you check your sliced model for thin walls, they tend to show in weird places. The nominal geometry will show as a transparency over the extruded lines in orca slicer, iirc prusaslicer has a similar feature.
A few weeks ago I tried to print picrel with a 0.8, sliced it, sent it to the printer, the bed heated up, laid down this square sheet, and it was marked as complete.
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>>2985431
I dry mine in a filament dryer then put them in one of those rubber sealed cereal boxes together with a hygrometer. Personally I would discourage you from doing what >>2985434 mentioned. I guess the aluminum bags for nylon filament be ok. Got no experience with those. But the normal clear plastic bags will not protect against moisture in the long run.
I use them for "other stuff" and after a year or so said stuff tends to get spongy.
Had to dry a brand new role of TPU. Even though it came sealed in one of those plastic bags, the moisture content was unacceptable.
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>>2985472
Should've used them for cooking else you know there's bags for dry stuff and bags for wet stuff. You're supposed to use the later for filament.
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>>2985473
never looked that much into it tbqh. I think those boxes are more comfortable to use, even though they take up more space. Thanks for the info though. Might come in handy one day.
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>>2985476
>those boxes are more comfortable to use
Don't even disagree. It's just he mentioned long term storage and a vacuum sealed chamber, so i assumed he actually means long term storage. Also you can get very cheap vacuum devices from ebay/craigs from disillusioned people who just bought it as gimmick.
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>>2985455
>Do you really have to have a separate nozzle just for printing TPU?
For swapping between prints? No. For multi-material prints? It makes it a lot nicer than a filament-swapping nozzle. Purging for different materials takes more than for a color change, so while it's doable on something like an AMS, it wastes a lot of filament and time.
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>>2985471
>just make sure you check your sliced model for thin walls,
Related to this, printed geometry is a lot more stable when walls and other features are at least 2 perimeters wide. The open ends of a single extrusion can interact with other features in strange ways, and there can be cooling issues if it hangs in open air.
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>>2985431
My printer and filament are coming on Monday so I haven't been able to test its efficacy yet, but I just bought a decent-sized Rubbermaid-type tote with a gasket and latches and one of those big desiccant packets made for gun safes and I'm hoping it's good enough. I took a printing class at the local college last term and they basically stored their filament the same way. I live in a literal desert so it's not as much of a concern for me as it is for most people though.
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any ideas what's wrong here?
new printer - Elegoo Centauri Carbon
same slicer (cura) settings, suddenly my prints fail to make nice interior
It's designed as a single line per layer, outer surface is fine, inner is "incomplete", why would it underextrude mid layer/when making sharp turn?
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>>2985508
Moving too fast is my guess, either for the motion system itself or the wobbliness of that vertical print. Slowing it down or doing some input shaping tuning would help, and if it is the unsupported tall model that’s the issue, try putting the printer on a concrete paver without any rubber in between, then putting that paver atop something shock absorbent.

Also in the CAD model I’d consider adding serif-like features to your butt-joints, allowing for a bit more contact area between different parts of the single perimeter.
It would be cool if slicers could create that vase-mode infill themselves, but my Orca feature request has been thus far ignored.
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>>2985508
looks too hot to me. like the inner fill bridging didn't connect because it melted and the end looks like melted styrofoam. could be nozzle temp, cooling fan lack or too slow?

I'd planar slice that end and see if it does it closer to the base and go from there.
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The 14 hour print is a success, I now have a lovely new air filter housing.
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>>2985498
Filament and accessories actually showed up today, so I can show my setup. I had this plastic shelving unit around and it was deep enough for my A1 so I'm gonna try it out, I've got doubts about the rigidity but worst case I'll get some tapcons and a masonry bit and anchor it to the wall. Now if only I didn't have to wait until Monday for my printer.
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I have something to show you, FDM friends
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>>2985543
KABLOOEY!
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>>2985545
Still can't figure out why it wants to upload those sideways.
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>tfw project reaches a point where it's kinda sorta works good enough.
>the intent of "make a test stand, and I'll eventually make a proper case for it" has gone out the window.
>janky as hell but not janky to where it causes issues.
I've just been using this thing as is for the last couple of days. all high voltage is now covered, all wires are forcefully tucked away from fans, and the stand holds everything vaguely in the right place.
>>2985508
you're trying to bridge over open air? of course that's going to sag.
>>2985535
what did you get?
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>>2985548
>just one frame below a GTX1080
for a system that's cost me less than $200 total (including filament, wiring, fans, psu, wireless dongles, and a 512gig nvme ssd)I must express some degree of admiration. >>2982669
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>>2985548
>what did you get?
A1 with the AMS. Seemed like the best bet for the money and minimal fuckery.
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>>2985548
that's the point in a project that i usually either do a big ol slipcase printed in vasemode to just glue onto a base, or print out a frame to put the weight on something other than companants if something gets put on top of it.

pic related is 2 variable power supplies, left was hilariously underpowered, could do MAYBE 1 amp at 24v, but to test it all i made a frame to keep the high voltage away from al the things it liked to arc onto.
right is my current psu build, full case stolen from the internet, because i KNOW this one will work, despite needing to wait for a few more parts (like a 24v supply that isn't hilariously over powered for my printer part test bench).
if left worked, i would have just plopped a shell over it and called it good enough.

although, my "make a test stand, and I'll eventually make a proper case for it" came back in the window when i was testing a hotend, and realized the wires had come out of my 24v psu and were grounding directly onto the light stand a few cm from my head, so now im making cases, and removing a lot of the metal from my workbench (hence the lampshade and all the other shit on the ground) and properly sealing anything more powerful than a 9v battery.
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>>2985554
ok NOW pic related
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>>2985555
I observe the repeating symbols.
To do a case for this requires provisions for managing airflow over the ram as well as managing pressures on either side of the main cooler, and several other things like rigid mounting points for the psu and the board itself, more wiring, etc.
I'll just live with sticking my finger into the fan anytime I miss the escape key. All 120V is already safely behind covers. only thing that can really short are the backs of the pcie pins where they're soldered to the pcb.
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Elegoo centauri carbon. Printing now often results in a layer shift. Tension belts as per the elgoo wiki, slight shift remains. How to address this?
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>>2985549
What is that, one of those weird AMD APUs?
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The bed annealing seems to have worked well. The annealed sample seemed somewhat easy to bend when immersed in 70C water (perhaps 10 times easier to flex than room temp PETG), but when I dunked the not annealed sample in the same water it could be bent like a ribbon. Big difference. Raising the temperature up to 90C for just ten or twenty seconds was enough to get the flexible sample to stiffen up. Though I think I’ll still boil the main parts, just to make sure they’re as good as they’re going to get.
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>>2985579
mmm, carbon fibre plastic soup
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>>2985583
Actually doing some reading, it looks like annealing time is important too, so I’m going to leave this pot simmering for an hour. These studies suggest that 90C is ideal for mechanical properties, going to 100C that tends to result in a decrease relative to 90C, possibly going as low as un-annealed PLA. One paper describes how they measured crystallinity using x-rays and found it to increase up to 90C but decrease again at 100C, seems like there’s room for a follow-up study with significantly finer temperature steps, and ideally multiple process times too. My suspicion is that crystallinity can approach 100% if held at the right temperature for long enough. But heat deflection temperature still increases with increasing temperature, and that’s all I’m after, so no problems there. I’m also not sure how much of a difference the cool-down time has in the annealing process, so to be safe I’ll let it cool down in the pot of water to room temperature.
See:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0142941825000492
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/348668129_Annealing_efficacy_on_PLA_Insights_on_mechanical_thermomechanical_and_crystallinity_characters
The papers are free to view, which is really nice of them. Hope my prints don't get waterlogged…
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>>2985511
I'm printing LW-PLA at 30mm/s so it's already very slow
>It would be cool if slicers could create that vase-mode infill themselves
this would save me tens of hours of CAD
>>2985548
>you're trying to bridge over open air?
no? it's a nice 45° slope "infill" pattern
>>2985521
ding ding ding, seems like this is the correct answer, it was too hot - I turned on the cooling fan and now looks fine, thanks anon
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>>2985591
>this would save me tens of hours of CAD
It could even do multiple “perimeters” with offset “seams” for stronger parts. Ideally you could use this for conventional parts made from really stringy materials.
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>>2985591
>no?
sure looks like you are trying to bridge over open air with a tiny bit of support from the layer below, note the location of the seam. your best bet might be to increase the seam overlap but I can't recall what setting that would be. If it is a vasemode print then I don't think any of it is considered overlap or infill anyways.
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>>2985579
>>2985583
>>2985587

What are you making that needs heat treatment?
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>>2985597
you've never heard about overhangs? this is a standard 45° slope, half of new line sits on the line below, half is suspended "mid air", no issues
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ive turned into a mega consoomer lately since i got a full time job while still living with my parents, i was planning to buy a p2s during the june sale but seeing how this is coming out, i might just spend the extra and get this so it will be even more future proof.
when do you think this will come out? I dont follow bambulab, do they historically release new printers shortly after announcements? or like half a year after?
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>>2985621
Lately they've released them as a stealth drop the moment they reveal them.
At least, that's what they did with the P2S.

Vortex and H2D has a longer run up.

I will say, though. The idea of using a secondary extruder via a Bowden set up isn't the most appealing idea.
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>>2985578
Yep.
I got one myself like a month ago.
Still designing and redesigning the case and ironing out software quirks (linux, duh)
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Just pulled the trigger on the graphite bed for SV08. Taco no more.
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>>2985627
Bowden shouldn't matter if you use it to print supports and such, which, I assume, is the main reason to get that printer.
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>>2985547
>every culture creates crystal skulls
Some things are just universal I guess.
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>>2985627
>>2985637
what do you think the MSRP will be?
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>>2985660
Probably like $1000 for the combo.
It's going to be more expensive than the P2S, but less than anything in the H series.
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>>2985634
Please report back how much it actually helps. Haven't really had any taco issues since installing klicky, but not sure if i just got lucky or if compensation is actually that good if not hindered by a shitty Z probe.
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>>2985611
Filament dry box. Holder for bearings on which the spool is mounted, fan+PTC heater mount, thermometer/hygrometer module housings, and a servo mount for the top of the enclosure.
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>>2985676
Sure. I just ordered it, so I assume it's going to be at least a week or two before I get to it.

I actually got a better probe (Eddy Duo) months ago but procrastinated on setting it up for reasons. Maybe it alone would be enough to solve my first layer issues, but setting money on fire is fun, so here we are.

I also need to figure out a proper way of tensioning belts. The official way is using the Gates app, but looks like it got ruined by an update.
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>>2985646
Don’t know what you are talking about.
This shit never happened.
And if it did happen, it has nothing to do with Indy.
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>>2985646
Mine's cooler. Those injuns can suck it.
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>ATH-50 headphones
>tiny plastic part to limit the pivot breaks after 4 years of near constant use
>immediately order new ones, delivery in less than 18 hours
>wait a sec, I have a 3d printer
>design replacement part
>prototype a few times
>sleep and wake up
>finalize the design and print
>fits properly, clips on, no glue
>new headphones arrive 5 hours later
What do I write as my excuse for returning.
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>>2985722
free returns means never having to make shit up
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>>2985547
4cahn strips the metadata that says which way an image is rotated
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did these today ~30mm diameter
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>>2985722
My brother had a pair of headphones with a very similar mechanism, I think the same piece broke as in your pair. Not Audio Technica, but the AT replacement head-straps were available from alibay for $15 or so and look basically identical. When it arrived I found that the pivot shaft that the ear cups sit on was the wrong diameter, but there were enough parts to swap around to get it working properly. If it were my own pair I'd have 3D printed, but I wasn't confident in the print's ability to remain under heavy use.
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Aw yeah.
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once i get a new printer, ive decided my old ender is basically unsellable.
Im going to convert it into a fucking machine, any pre made E3 to fucking machine mods out there?
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>>2985736
That's a clean ender, man. If it prints well I could imagine you getting a few hundred for that since it's probably equivalent to a V3 KE, if not better. Though if you're ditching it because it's being a pain in the ass to maintain I can see your apprehension to selling it. Personally I'd turn it into a plotter, to escape the ink/toner printer cabal. Turning it into a router might be doable, and turning it into an EDM or ECM machine is definitely doable but less straightforward.
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>>2985740
Turning it into an EDM machine is easy.
You just need to attach speakers.
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>>2985736
modding an ender makes them less resalable, aint no one paying a couple hundred for this in 2026, it aint 2020 anymore, you can get a 250 dollar printer new that beats this
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>>2985746
meant for>>2985740
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>>2985736
Being able to print something while you're already printing something is one hell of a superpower.
It has the most value being what it was designed for - a 3D printer.

If you don't have space for it, just take it apart and store it in a drawer. You never know when you're going to need a stepper.
(You'll most likely toss the parts after a decade of them collecting dust, but it's a thought that counts)
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>>2985746
I guess any target market of yours is in the narrow region between "understands that those mods are sensible and make it significantly better than stock" and "would rather put that money towards a corexy". So maybe broke college students? If you don't have the room for it, donate it to your local library or maker-space.
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>>2985735
Getting closer. Next up is basically just the wiring and the firmware. I’ll probably use an ESP32. Then I’ll stick a bunch of insulation on the outside. Once my circuitry is sorted I’ll have to design and print an enclosure for that too, but it won’t need to be heat resistant, it will sit outside the insulation.

I might still want to do a heat resistant part for holding the Bowden tube in the lid using a hydraulic fitting or two. A heat resistant cable management component seems like it might be sensible too, though I can probably just route all the wires out behind the fan bracket.

Code will probably be pretty simple actually, just open up the vent whenever the absolute humidity inside the chamber is significantly higher than outside the chamber, while PIDing the temperature control. With a rudimentary navigable menu. The rate of change in weight could be used to figure out how much moisture is left in the roll, I guess to provide an ETA on when it gets below a certain percent by weight.
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>>2985722
>new headphones arrive 5 hours later
Just put them in the cupboard for when something unfixable breaks.
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>>2985736
check out eroscripts or temptest3d, not many folks use nema stepper motors for fuck machines, usually its heavy duty servos.
but basically you just need one motor, belt and rail, and a mount for a rod or hole of your choice.
the hard part is getting it to move in time with your german forklift sim footage.
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It dieded.
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>>2985740
I know what you actually mean but when I read "EDM machine" I just imagined it making dance music with the servo noises.
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>>2985786
Did the front fall off?
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I use to think that Blender was the most obtuse piece of shit program I've ever used, then I tried learning FreeCAD yesterday.

Anyways, what CAD programs do you use?
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>>2985794
Fusion. Openscad, weirdly.
I just installed Freecad today and was going to fuck around with but got called to go fix my sister's oven.
That is not a euphemism.
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>>2985793
Yeah. I never had this happen, so I assumed it's not going to. I know.
The cover fell off, broke the fan connector. The other part cooling fan also caught on something and broke the mount.
The wire harness somehow got wrapped around the hotend and broke its mount as well.

Currently contemplating whether I want to fix the stock toolhead, build one of the CN3D ones, or get the one from Sovol Zero.
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>>2985795
They say Freecad is going through its glow-up stage with massive updates finally making it usable after two decades of development.
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>>2985797
Precisely what's made me want to try it out again after abandoning a test a few years ago.
>>2985796
Seems like a magnet's gone missing too, was it not built so the front wouldn't fall off?. I never understood the point of magnetic covers. It's a second of convenience for hours of bullshit like this. A more rigid connection would've just damaged the print typically.
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>>2985794
I usually use FormZ Free. Non-parametric, but it's great for direct modeling. You can select and directly edit specific points, lines, surfaces, holes, etc. so editing a downloaded STL is almost as easy as having a parametric model. And construction from primitives, sweeps, lofts, etc. is enough for most of my modeling tasks. Geometry is snappable, so you can use geometric construction techniques in addition to numerical inputs.

>pic
An interesting consequence of Metric lacking a unit about the length of a foot is that people in Metric-only countries have lost heel-toe measurement as a concept.
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>>2985798
Yeah, one of the magnets got ripped out.
Cover falling off is a known problem and there are workarounds, but I never bothered with them since it was reliable for me. It's almost like not suffering from an obvious design flaw is just luck and not an indication.
I admit I didn't do enough testing after building the enclosure yesterday. It was working fine, so I left the print going and went to run some errands.
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>>2985799
cucked imperial units
chad russian units
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Russian_units_of_measurement
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>>2985794
Fusion, simply because it's what my school uses and I have a license through that. It's relatively user-friendly and the cloud stuff is really useful for my use case (moving between school workstations, my laptop, and my desktop) but sometimes it does retarded shit and there's stuff it simply can't do, like I was just working on an assignment where I had to reverse engineer something and Fusion refused to let me chamfer a surface that's chamfered IRL.

I'd use Solidworks if I had the choice, since it's the industry standard program, but switching back and forth between different CAD programs is a nightmare so I'm holding off until I'm done with classes that require Fusion.
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>>2985794
I use freeCAD. It was my first mechanical CAD program and it took me a while to figure out, but I am happy with it. I wanted something that is truly free and not some test or student version of some major brand. Just in case they would try to limit the access in the future.
That's what happened to a friend of mine. Not sure what program he used, but they changed something about the free license and suddenly he could not access some of his older designs.
That's when he changed to freeCAD aswell. Of course he got a "told ya so", cause I'm a good friend.
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>>2985803
They're both customary systems, and hence both have largely similar units, like inches, feet, and yards, with unit intervals based around what is convenient for people to work with in practical tasks.
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>>2985796
Isn’t it pretty easy to fix with another fan, glue, and printed parts? Well, assuming you can print parts.

>>2985794
SolveSpace because I’m a brainlet. But someone released a FreeCAD 1.1 tutorial so I’ll probably get to that soon.
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It took like $70 worth of Harbor Freight hammer drill and hardware but I no longer have to worry about my printer "bench" being wobbly. I can't believe Euros have to deal with this shit every time they want to hang something.

It also won't be dark and gloomy over there anymore thanks to the $16.99 LED shop light that's probably the best deal in all of Lowe's.
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>>2985736
or you could give it to some kid with an interest
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>>2985794
Fusion360 obviously
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>>2985825
your cable management sickens me. also if your garage door stops working well let me know.
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>>2985798
>was it not built so the front wouldn't fall off?
well obviously not.
>how do you know
well because the front fell off

>>2985801
>Cover falling off is a known problem
well if the hotend shrouds not safe, then why did this one have 80,000 meters of filament run through it?
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>>2985831
There's not a whole lot I can do about the cable, it barely reaches the power strip and any kind of extension would result in an even worse mess of cable and plugs. Only real option would be to replace the whole cable but that's a whole can of worms I don't want to get into.
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>>2985688
Thought about eddy, but klicky PCB was still lying around from another printer and the docking gimmick just adds a unique charme.
>tensioning belts
Went with a used chromatic tuner. Works fine. Going by Prusa's blog i went a bit harder than sovol's own recommendations, made corners a bit neater.

>>2985722
You know you can return at/to the delivery without reason?

>>2985760
Cute. How high continuous temperature is that fan rated at and why the gauge?

>>2985786
>>2985796
Your electronic harness ripped off from the bowden tube. Try some zip ties instead of default wringy thingies.
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>>2985833
>80,000 meters
Huh? Are you saying that I should have fixed mine a long time ago or that you have a printer with a magnetic cover that doesn't have this issue?

If the former, yes. I should have. I've known about it since day one and never bothered.

If the latter, congrats. Your printer probably has stronger magnets/lighter cover/smarter operator.
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>>2985841
>harness ripped off the bowden tube
Yes, but the printer ran for months with the twisty things and only failed when enclosed.
My current theory is that the harness bent/sagged in a weird way due to being attached in a slightly different way.

I'll switch to zip ties and spend more time observing printer movements after I fix the toolhead.
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>>2985558
thanks doc
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>>2985821
>easy to fix
Yeah. I'm just not sure if I want to restore it to the way it came from the factory.
I'll probably post the result since this is twitter and you're all dying to hear an update.
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>>2985841
Fan is rated for 90C. Was a pain to find, digi-key has such a spec to filter by, I went through the 15 remaining fans until I found a Delta Electronics model that was in stock on AliExpress. No “choice” though, for the shipping I paid it probably would have been smarter to make a digi-key order. By gauge do you mean the strain gauge? The idea is to measure weight of the spool as it dries, if nothing else to show that on a graph so I can get an idea of how quickly it’s drying out. Ideally I’d subtract the weight of the spool and figure out what percent of the spool’s mass is water, and give a countdown to when the spool will be dry enough to print. I think I’ll enjoy using a chip with the guts to do division and floating point operations, though I’d go fixed point if it’s not too much of a hassle.

>>2985860
Fair enough, I have heard those stock hot-ends are a bit shit. You could consider doing a cheap bodge fix now and chucking an INDX on when it’s available, or maybe an eventual chink knockoff.
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>>2985856
im quoting the late 90s comedy sketch anon was quoting before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM
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>>2985869
This is hilarious. Thank you!

I come from a different background, so many of these older memes go over my head.
Should have done a reverse image search.
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>>2985872
>I come from a different background, so many of these older memes go over my head.
It's somewhat obscure outside of Australia but that specific sketch is a meme on at least both /k/ and /n/ for somewhat obvious reasons.

The duo in general is hilarious though and always the same setup, the straight-man interviewer and the stuffed shirt politician avoiding questions, they tailored it to be about whatever the issue of the day was and generally made fun of the government avoiding responsibility for whatever they'd fucked up.
They're not recent though, they retired a while back and one of them has died since.
You can find them on youtube as Clarke and Dawe.
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>>2985794
Onshape, because it was free and easy to learn. I'd tried OpenSCAD and FreeCAD in the past, might give the latter another try now that I have a better idea of what I'm doing, and it's had a big update recently too.
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>>2985897
>Onshape
I can't stand all of this subscription based cuckery.
There is a free tier, but they only have it to get you to invest time into learning their tool.
Once you're hooked, they remove features that you rely on and lock them behind subscription.
Subscription-based proprietary software gives corpos the power to change or take it away at any moment.
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>>2985899
>There is a free tier, but they only have it to get you to invest time into learning their tool.
>Once you're hooked, they remove features that you rely on and lock them behind subscription.
First hit is always free.
There's only two industries that call their customers "users".
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>>2985899
>Once you're hooked, they remove features that you rely on and lock them behind subscription.
Might work for some customers, but I just take that as a sign to move on to something free/open source instead, like taking the training wheels off a bike.
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>>2985856
>Huh? Are you saying that I should have fixed mine a long time ago or that you have a printer with a magnetic cover that doesn't have this issue?
there's a lot of these printers printing around the world and I just don't want people thinking they're not built so that the front falls off.
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We'll see what happens
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>>2985942
part cooling where
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>>2985952
right there,
its one of those chinky k1c extruders on a ad5m
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>>2985794
FreeCAD, but keep OpenSCAD installed if you know even a tiny little bit of code. Sometimes SCAD is so much easier and faster, but only sometimes.
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Enjoying my Bambu Labs A1 quite a lot :)
A lot more reliable than my amateurishly kept and modded Ender-3.
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>>2985794
I'm a retard that has been saying "I really need to take time to learn CAD" for years.

So TinkerCAD.
It's good enough for basic shit if you don't value your time.
I keep using it and then beating myself up over not learning a proper tool.
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>>2985959
firmware source where
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>>2985794
Inventor and Solidworks, they just work.
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>>2985959
For as much as the autists complain about firmware and closed gardens and whatever. (Despite none of these people ever actually looking or editing any of the printer's firmware.

It really does just work. And if something just works, it's hard to really complain about it too much.
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>>2985989
Autist here.

It's not about the need to edit the firmware.
It's about the ability to audit changes between versions.

If BBL adds some anti-consumer shit like "you printer starts running like shit after X hours" to frustrate you into buying a new one, you will never know.
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>>2985993
Okay. But.
1. Why would they do that?
2. Firmware updates are optional.
3. Some autist will find it sooner or later.
It just seems like schizo paranoia.
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>>2985996
>1. Why would they do that?
Today I learned that some people don't know what planned obsolescence is.
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>>2985999
Okay so
>Bambu degrades their printers via a firmware update
>It gets found out because 3.
>People stop buying them and instead buy one of the many other competitors

Planned obsolescence is only a factor when the biggest competitor is yourself. That is not the case for 3D printers.
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>>2986002
Sure, let's put a pin in the whole planned obsolescence thing. It's not like large corporations are going to collude in order to drive sales up.
What about that stupid law about printers detecting and refusing to print gun parts?
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>>2986004
>Dozens of companies across multiple countries are all going to come together and collude to drive the price of something people can put together themselves for like $150.

Come on man, this isn't realistic.

As for the law shit. I dunno. Not my country, so I don't entirely care. It's probably going to come to my country at some point. But, the reality of that is that if it passes in America, the hardware will legally be required to be on all printers and nobody is going to make special country-specific versions that have or don't have the spyware.

As is, I'm not aware of any company actually having a printer that can monitor what is being printed to ensure it's not a gun. My own personal theory is that 3D printers are going to be pretty important in future, and this is a way for the powers that be to limit the import of Chinese and Open Source printers in order to encourage domestic and domestically controlled printers.
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>>2986008
It's just another "We need more surveillance to... uhh... protect children from terrorists".
They can't do analysis without adding expensive hardware to printers, so these might get more expensive as a result.
You could also expect printers to require internet connection so they can send gcode to their servers for analysis. You'll probably be paying for that, either as a mandatory subscription or government subsidies that come out of your taxes.

None of that can happen with open source firmware since the cuckery can be found and reverted or disabled.
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>>2986010
Well, it's hypothetical futurism and if it's law, it doesn't matter if you're buying from Bambu or Prusa, they're all going to be required by law to have it.

Bambu doesn't have forced firmware updates, nor the hardware to do it, even if they could somehow do it via a firmware update. So, it's not like Bambu is any "Worse" than any other printer for this.
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>>2986002
>People stop buying them and instead buy one of the many other competitors
LOL. The fuckery in inject printers is exactly why I switched to Brother, but if they haven't done the same thing they are very close to it:

https://www.howtogeek.com/brother-printer-third-party-ink-not-blocked/

There are no ethics here, every corporation plays the same game. If the percentage of income gained is greater than the loss of income from dissatisfied customers they will absolutely do this.
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>>2986014
>Boomer screaming about how he knows what he got and he's never shopping here again.
>Against a completely different company based in an entirely different country.
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>change one thing
>fixes issue
>something else weird and utterly minor happens
Oh my GOD, these fucking things.
My dumb ass wants to buy a tool changer too ."One extruder isn't giving me enough grief. Let's put four of them on the fucking thing."

Just had an issue with shit knocking for WHATEVER fucking reason, so I enabled avoid crossing walls. Did it solve it? Maybe. But I look over at the current print and half-way done I see these faint little vertical bands when the light shines on the silk a certain way. Is it the filament? Is it the machine? Is it the thing the machine is on? Is it the plate? DID IT ALWAYS FUCKING DO THIS AND I'M JUST NOW NOTICING?!
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>>2986037
probably knocking the strings off when it hit the walls.
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>>2986040
It isn't stringing at all. It's a regular, banded pattern that looks like faint pinstripes running through the silk's natural sheen.
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>>2985985
Never.
But don't worry, all other printers will go closed source as well.
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>>2986042
>>2986037
It's the fucking stand. I've got the stupid thing on an aquarium stand and it wobbles a bit. You'd think the ad5x's vibration calibration would fix that, but I've been printing and selling these fucking houses for months without noticing.
The wild thing is it's ONLY on these houses. It doesn't show up on any of the balls or models I've done.
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Anyone get an ender 5 max. Im considering getting this or the qidi max 4. I really want the full 400mm3 but I could probably make due with 390mm. The main advantage of the max tho is that I would probably have an easier time modding it to fix an indx. But theres almost no info on the max which makes it hard to know what Im getting into.
The main advan
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>>2986054
the qidi max 4 looks half-baked, see ygk3d's review
i haven't seen any actually well made corexy printers larger than 350mm^3, which is where the halfway-decent sv08 and k2 plus sit
i haven't heard anything about the ender 5 max at all, i'd definitely want to see some reviews
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>>2986061
Ive seen his review but honestly it looks like a lot of whining/grifting about minor things. But my perspective is biased because Ive been using a klipperized ender 5 plus which is complete shit and I have to deal with something breaking ever 5 prints. Planned on making it a merc but its expensive compared to getting a new printer.
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>>2986070
First print of my own design, holder for micrometer calibration standards.
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>>2986071
...but you said we're printing boys
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X2D got announced.
https://bambulab.com/en/x2d

Pretty competitive price. But, they're very evasive about how good at printing the second bowden-fed nozzle is. And kinda just say "You can use it for supports and other things".

Very competitive pricing. Only $100 more than the P2S and you get an active heater and better venting.

Also build volume is reduced in dual-nozzle printing mode.
Sucks if you recently bought a P2S, I guess, but the Bowden-fed set up is pretty jank and doesn't seem overly useful.
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Fuck

I think the part just left the chat, I noticed the raft didn't look right when the print started but hoped it'd be OK since I've printed this 3 times on other printers. It was going way nicer than on the clapped out Ender 5s I'd used before too. Just started another try with the cool super tack plate or whatever it's called, hopefully it sticks better there.
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>>2986113
Cool plate is nice, just make sure you've set the plate in the slicer, otherwise it'll all go horribly wrong.
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>>2986073
No, he said we're printin' boys.
I know I am, aren't you?
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>>2986115
Oh fuck, I set it for the last print I did (the fail was actually last night and I ran something else after it) but forgot to change it when I started this print. Good call, I fixed it and restarted.
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>>2986073
>>2986117
you wouldn't download a boykisser would you?
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>>2986120
I am a boy kisser
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I have lost my patience with my adventurer 3. Looking to upgrade to something bigger, faster, and capable of changing filaments. What should I get? I'd really like for it to be open-source (in the future if not immediately), but Prusa is twice the price of something like the Creality Sparkx i7. It seems like the Sparkx limits the speed if you don't use their official filament. Absolutely fucking infuriating.
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>>2985736
Enders are still good for shit that prints slow, like PETG. You can print a few of those vase mode/custom gcode lampshades and try selling them to boomers, see if it can pay itself off.
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I have a need for a vertically printed fan shell to fit a location akin to picrel. The simple solution is to print the fan grille separately, but I'm wondering if there are any designs that work in this orientation.
shell is 2.4 thick, printed with a 0.8 nozzle.
I'm not entirely opposed to hexagons, but I do find them overused.
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What the fuck is the difference between these? They all cost $399. Which one should I get?
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>>2986131
Can't you just print vertical lines in there? No need to make it fancy
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>>2986131
Why wouldn't a simple diamond lattice grille work? Or hexagonal? Ignore the retard that said vertical lines. They wouldn't have enough rigidity unless you made them really thick, which would block airflow.
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>>2986131
columns of opposing triangles would probaby be easy for any printer.
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>>2986134
>>2986139
Last time I tried hexagons they came out looking like stars of david, I'm not willing to risk it on something this large and that I'll find myself looking at often. I want to actually like the finished product. I guess I can probably live with copying the lattice in >>2985075.
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I did a thing. What you all think? I am printing out a black one to paint right now.
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>>2986152
Dry your filament.
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>>2986154
What was the symptom you saw that made you comment on that?
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>>2986152
>to paint
is that a euphemism?
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>>2986152
>What you all think?
I think you should consider your seam settings, otherwise it looks really nice.
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>>2984660
Where did anon get the cute lizard model? Left middle picture or A2 in the grid
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>>2986160
https://makerworld.com/en/models/1499526-mini-cyclura-iguana-figurine-keychain
only place that I could find it.
>get up to take a piss
>post failed, captcha expired.
While I certainly appreciate the uptick in quality on certain boards generals, good lord is it also pissing me off.
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>>2986155
Little zits and blemishes at every extrusion end. That appears to be silk PLA, which should not be difficult to tune in that regard... unless it's wet, in which case the moisture puffs it up a little and causes overextrusion/ooze that causes blemishes whenever the printer pauses the flow. Even PLA needs to be dry for good aesthetics (vase mode excepted).

Like the other anon mentioned, seam setting can use work too, but that's secondary to getting the filament working properly. Learn to manually paint seams to hide them. Maybe try scarf seams. Those can be hit or miss, but they may help too.
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>>2986110
and they released color mixing today for all BL printers with dual nozzles
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>>2986161
thanks and yea the mods are doing something good finally, it was getting bad everywhere on 4chan
>>2986162
ok thanks for the feedback, I had that spool in a vacuum sealed bag but it lost its vacuum over time. I had 5 or 6 big desiccants with it. I didn't bother drying it out before attempting to use the my mothballed printer after 3 years of hibernation. All things considered I am pleased with it and appreciate the keen eye and constructive criticism. I have a dryer so how long do i need to use it? Like I said its been in storage for 3 years.
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>tfw 3d printing is making m.2 ssds cheap again.
2230, 2242, etc.
Picked up a 256gig to use as boot drive in an htpc for $20.
>>2986110
It's incredibly tempting, interface layers is a thing I've been bitching and moaning for ages now.
I still can't go back to having a sub 330x330 bed though.
>>2986164
nta. The zits could also be from incorrect retraction tuning, zhop, or general overhang shennanigans. If that's silk pla then I think it might be a profile setting and the standard black one will probably be fine. I've always found silk anything to just be weird and never worth bothering.
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>>2986126
>>2986132
Anycubic Kobra X looks pretty good.
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Success! Printing it inverted with trees was the answer. Quality difference between it (blue) and the Ender at school last term (grey) is wild.
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>>2986164
>I had that spool in a vacuum sealed bag but it lost its vacuum over time. I had 5 or 6 big desiccants with it.
Not nearly good enough for long-term storage. Only the metal-lined manufacturer bags can actually keep moisture out well enough to reliably have the filament be dry when you get it, and desiccant can only absorb a certain amount of water. Silica gel in particular can only absorb a small part of its capacity before it allows high enough humidity to degrade the performance of many kinds of filament. Long-term dry storage takes something like a pressure-tight box with bulk desiccant, preferably with a hygrometer to let you know when the silica gel needs regeneration (most cheap hygrometers don't reliably measure low humidity levels for this). A good setup can keep filament dry on the order of a year or so without attention

>I have a dryer so how long do i need to use it? Like I said its been in storage for 3 years.
Time of exposure is less relevant than how wet it actually is. For silk PLA, I'd recommend starting with 50C for about 4 hours. If you have a scale that can resolve grams, you can measure it periodically to see when it stops losing significant weight, but a test print to check that it prints fine can work too. Otherwise just let it dry overnight and not worry about it, if you don't mind running the dryer longer than necessary.

>>2986165
>If that's silk pla then I think it might be a profile setting and the standard black one will probably be fine.
I've found regular PLA mechanical settings to be fine, but I run a direct drive extruder. Bowdens would be more sensitive.

>I've always found silk anything to just be weird and never worth bothering.
Thermal settings are finicky in my experience. It's really prone to heat creep, and getting the best appearance requires running it at the cool end of its range, which reduces its already terrible mechanical properties. But it looks great. Sometimes that's the overriding concern.
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Damn all this talk about multihead printers makes me want to upgrade. What are the options in 2026? And is it true that you can use a dual for water soluble supports so it doesn't wreck your fingers?

Got a Neptune 3 Max for reference.

t. latest silk print poster
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>>2986165
>It's incredibly tempting
I'm in a similar boat, kind of.
It'd be a nice upgrade over my P1S, but it just seems like a such a half-measure that it doesn't quite do what I want, and I'd be better off just saving up for a H2D, U1 or waiting for them to come up with a better solution.

It feels like a slightly frustrating time to buy a printer as nobody has quite yet come up with a multi-material printer that solves all the big issues, but each issue is solved separately by a different printer, yet nobody can put it all together.
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>>2986181
What do you regard as all the big issues?
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>>2986183
Basically it all comes down to printing time, waste and limitations.
H2D allows for like 24 different materials, but uses nozzle swapping and filament has to be ran up and down the feed tubes by the AMS which adds significant printing time.
U1 has each toolhead be a separate element and swaps via changing the toolhead as required. This is faster and less wasteful, but limited to 4 materials, with each spool mounted to the outside of the printer and then running down it's own feed tube. Also the U1 is semi-enclosed and only really designed to print PLA and PETG.

Then there's something like Prusa with the INDX which is consistently vaporware and will almost certainly be very expensive if it comes.
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Anyone know what would cause these wavy lines on flat surfaces in my print? Started printing with PETG and I can't remember if I had this issue with PLA. I dont print stuff that often.
I was messing around with flow rate and temp and z offset calibration tests and nothing changed really. I have 3 top layers and adaptive cubic infil. But I'll have the same wavy lines even on a flat 3 layer calibration print.
Its smooth to the touch and not actually bumpy.
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>>2986201
I was going to say infill but you said it happens on 3 layer calibration prints.
Check the preview in your slicer, what does it look like?
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>>2986202
The slicer looked fine to me, I dont know what exactly I should be looking out for, but nothing abnormal when going by step by step.
I'm using orcaslicer if that makes a difference and have a sovol sv06 ace plus
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>>2986204
Show a picture of the flat 3 layer print.
Also show a screenshot of the preview with the tool lines.
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>>2986184
>INDX which is consistently vaporware
It's pretty entertaining watching their own fanboys calling them out by now, especially with the no cables video recently. Thankfully i got very limited use for multimaterial.
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>hey anon have you seen the latest Bambu?
>no, what did they release?
>sub $1k dual nozzle with temperature controlled chamber
>gotta check /3dpg/
>>2986165
>It's incredibly tempting
Man I'm so tempted too. I want to upgrade from my bedslinger so much, but at this point I know what I want since I have experience with a professional machine at work, and Bambu's standard plate size feels limiting. Also
>2026
>Bowden
...man

By the way, what's the deal with the secondary nozzle being marketed mainly for supports?
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>>2986209
Bowden's perfectly fine if all it has to ever do is lay a layer or two of petg/pla/pva at the interfaces between supports.
It's light years ahead of what I often do which insert a pause and sharpie in the support interface on large flat areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBGl4i668Tg
unrelated, but seriously, fuck moisture in fibered filaments. It can turn a quick print into several hours maybe days unless you sacrifice a brand new spool.
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>>2986147
That's not how you do a fucking hexagonal grille. What the fuck am I looking at? JUST DO A REGULAR HEXAGONAL MESH! LIKE YOU HAVE ON YOUR COMPUTER!
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>>2986209
>he secondary nozzle being marketed mainly for supports?
I think there are water soluble filament you can use for that.
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>>2986209
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>>2986152
I put a clear coat on this. It really made the mini pop and smoothed and fixed the scratches from the support removal. It looks even better now.
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Do I get an H2C so I can switch nozzles remotely. An H2D cause it is cheaper. Or bite the bullet with an X2D and smaller bed even though I already have a P1S with a chamber heater?

Or say fuck it and get a Ratrig.

Primary use case is nylon or abs parts.
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im going to do it unless someone convinces me otherwise, I dont plan to print useless multi colored nick nacks
what else should I buy with the x2d?
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>>2986256
a standalone dryer, single spool. Most of the common support filaments like petg and pva love to absorb moisture, and I think the second hotend doesn't feed from the ams iirc.
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>>2986256
>>2986263
I second geting the filament dryer. For me it's had a small but noticable impact on the quality of my prints, a really good investment for the price.
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>>2986256
Tack plate, or the ones from Biqu are nice.
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>>2986265
>buy printer specialized for engineering filament
>prints petg and pla on it.
can someone explain this behaviour to me?
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>>2986212
I knew they did filaments with silk and matte effects, but I've never seen a filament that automatically prints with fuzzy-skin!

>>2986221
They're bad, they absorb moisture from the atmosphere very quickly, and don't stick to prints very well. I'd suggest that PVB filament is better for dissolvable supports (dissolves in IPA), apparently it prints quite nicely, but I've never used it so I'm just guessing. Kinda expensive per roll too.

>>2986266
PLA is an engineering material. If you anneal it.
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>>2986266
You're sometimes going to want to print PLA.
Maybe it's a prototype. Maybe it's just something you find PLA's properties to be ideal for.
And if you're serious about printing, you don't want a bed that's contaminated by multiple different materials. So having a dedicated PLA plate is nice.
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>>2986201
IMO it looks like resonance in the left-right direction (as that image is oriented) such that the print head speeds up and slows down at a certain frequency when it should be doing a smooth movement. This results in areas of more and areas of less plastic buildup than desired. Does your printer have input shaping? If so, you might tweak the settings.
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>>2986212
>It can turn a quick print into several hours maybe days unless you sacrifice a brand new spool.
The idea of a dry storage box is that you can grab dry filament from it and print right away without needing to dry it first. You can even get a printing drybox which keeps the spool dry as you print from it.
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>>2986269
>PLA is an engineering material. If you anneal it.
Any material is an engineering material if you do calculations on it.
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>>2986266
god forbid someone uses one machine for multiple purposes...
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>>2986275
How anti-consumerist of you.
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>>2986273
Some filaments will draw humidity out of the desiccant rather than the other way around. I have literal kilos of desiccant from expired breather desiccant breather-filters dried in an industrial nylon dryer and have had filaments go bad in storage. High fiber content filaments, particularly core units, will go bad in days to maybe even hours, even inside of an eibos set to maintain a constant 10% rh. Thankfully the saving grace is that the outer windings are so aggressive in absorbing moisture that they keep the inner loops dry.
>>2986275
You can print pla on the included ultem plate perfectly fine. I can't personally attest to the whole filament contamination bit beyond personal experience, but at least with abs-nylon-pla-pet-polycarb my issues have been more related to filament sticking too well rather than the other way around.
I've also never gotten a single decent print out of petg, so take shit with a grain of salt.
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>>2986277
>Some filaments will draw humidity out of the desiccant rather than the other way around.
Depends on the desiccant. Silica gel is weaksauce but sufficient for most filaments. Molecular sieve can get air under 0.1% RH, and calcium oxide is way beyond that. A yardstick for how strong a desiccant is is how hot you have to bake it to regenerate it (a similar consideration for how hot you have to bake filament to dry it). Silica gel is usually ~120C. ~250C is common for molecular sieve, while ~400C is a practical minimum for calcium oxide. Nice setup there. Very similar to mine.

>an eibos set to maintain a constant 10% rh
10% RH at 60C is the same amount of water in the air as 85% RH at 20C. A heated dryer works by driving the water out of the filament by raising its vapor pressure and reducing the chemical bonding with the plastic. Desiccant keeps it dry by removing the water from the air so water can't get at the plastic.
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>>2986285
ok.
For comparison, ABS I just leave out in the open, not giving a single solitary fuck about and it's never had a moisture problem. But the moment fibers are introduced, it's either 2-3 hours of drying before and during printing, or mandatory fuzzy skin+boogers. I want to like core fiber filaments, they're just proving to be an absolute pain.
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my bank will charge me an extra 2.5% for buying from Bambu labs I think, this is some BS, a independent shop is selling the x2d near by me, I think il buy it from there unless bambu has a dedicated points system
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>>2986288
clicked on pay with paypall to see if it will mention a cross border fee and the order went through, I can cancel it, but fuck it
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>>2986288
do you not have an equivalent to a microcenter/bestbuy? is CEX still around?
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>>2986292
also, for what it's worth, it was 22 in stock earlier this morning.
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>>2986292
I have a canada computers which is the big box computer store here, but they dont have the x2d posted yet, i think iot took them months to post the p2s, anyways i ordered it already, Best buy canada doesnt seem like they are licensed to sell Bambu here
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I need to find some bullshit to print and sell so I can justify buying a new printer.
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>>2986296
the mandolrian movie comes out in like a month, looks like baby yodas are back on the menu boys
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>>2986297
FLEXIBLE BABY YODAS
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>>2986297
Oh fuck. I need to get Mandalorian helmets printing ASAP.
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>>2986300
Doesn't Disney send assassins after you?
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>>2986299
>>2986300
>>2986304
If they pass those 3D print scanning laws, Disney will absolutely go after you
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What’s the deal with bambu? Are they not good products? What got the faggot reddit users up in arms, something about the brand being proprietary?
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>>2986328
>What’s the deal with bambu?
They're a proprietary botnet where everything you print goes to China and they not only harvest the data but could b& STLs if they wanted. Even whole categories if they through in a little AI on the server to match it against a forbidden part type.
Imagine having to print a part with removable elements because otherwise it too closely matches something that a Chinese company is selling on aliexpress and they paid Bambu to stifle the open-source competition.
Or they're responding to government directives, either CCP or US.

>Are they not good products?
They're excellent by all accounts, which creates quite the dilemma.

>What got the faggot reddit users up in arms
Oh, it's a /pol/tard. How disappointing.
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>>2986336
lurk moar
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>>2986336
Aren't you the neoliberal shill from the last thread who supports government print monitoring?
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>>2986277
>Some filaments will draw humidity out of the desiccant rather than the other way around
Yeah silica gel really isn't very good for low humidity values. Activated alumina if not molecular sieves are better for this. That 3D printing jew recently made a video about forcing airflow through desiccant inside your storage box, seems to make a really big difference to the speed at which it can pull moisture out of the air, it's probably worth doing for most people with a big waterproof tub full of filament. If only such that you can see if your desiccant is still fresh or needing replacement after a matter of 10s of minutes, not days.
>particularly core units
Oh are fibre-core filaments even worse at absorbing moisture than conventional fibre-filled filaments? Scary, here I thought they had no downsides other than price.

I'm currently putting together a heated dry box with SHT35 sensors that go down below 10%RH and a vent that opens and closes. Slow going, but I finally got absolute humidity calculated. Without using any floating points. Grams per cubic metre isn't precise enough for me, so I'll need to go back and refactor my look-up-table to get milligrams per cubic metre out instead. Damn is it nice having more room than an ATmega for this bullshit. Not sure how I'll handle the temperature feedback loop, I'd love to implement a proper Z-transform-based PID loop, but I get filtered by interrupt vectors.
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>>2986346
How well will your filament do if you have it in a room with a dehumidifier constantly running?
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>>2986336
Talking about the 3D printing space, at this point in time, I'd be way more worried about US corporations going after right to repair and private initiative in general, blanket banning anything that even remotely resembles something they own. Something like what's happening on youtube, where automated systems absolutely wreck the shit out of smaller to medium sized channels regardless of how illegitimate their takedown strike is, simply because the system is set up to benefit only large corporations.

>which creates quite the dilemma
True, but I feel like they still keep themselves from being perfect. There's always a catch when there could be none.

What I'm left wondering is the reason behind all other companies failing to really compete on the same level. The biggest selling point of Bambu, beside their walled garden, is the self-calibration, all the automation, and the firmware optimization.
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>>2986347
Not very power efficient. For optimal filament storage, you’d want a very well sealed chamber, and probably some way to extract humidity from it to cover diffusion, and to cover any moisture that enters the chamber when you open it and put a possibly not bone-dry roll in. I think ditching the seal so you can use off-the-shelf dehumidifiers is putting the cart before the horse. What seems sensible to me is to have swappable desiccant canisters with hatches or doors set up such that minimal moisture air can leak into the chamber during the swapping process, if not a valve-based system like a double desiccant tower configuration. Either way you’d want to pump/blow air past the desiccant.
The other method would be a refrigeration-based dehumidifier, but that requires the ability to drain moisture without letting moist air seep in, which also seems like a problem. And my assumption is that refrigeration-based systems can’t get as dry with the remnants of water about, though they may be more energy efficient, and they may also be simpler to construct.
Then there’s those solid-state piezo dehumidifier modules, probably great for this but they’re real expensive.

Personally I think it would be a good compromise to pull a desiccant canister out of my storage box every few months and microwave it for a minute, and to have a little fan blowing air through it.
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>>2986347
Oh if you were talking about my diy drier, probably really damn dry. I calculated it a while ago and definitely into the 3%RH and below regime at PETG temperatures, depending on internal and external temperatures potentially down to half a percent. But my idea was to put a peltier dehumidifier piping dry air directly into the filament drier, to be more efficient and able to be used where my printer is, out in my garage. With a heat exchanger, as to not waste the power going into the drier. But that’s mega scope creep, building heat exchangers is difficult.
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>>2986351
>>2986352
No, you were right the first time. I ask because that's basically my set up, since my 3D printer is in my room, and I have a dehumidifier in there (as well as the house AC)
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>>2986347
you can get a little digital temp "clock" that shows humidity. I live in 10% humidity but have an industrial humidifier that keeps things around 34% (and is occasionally turned up to 60-70%) and don't have noticeable problems. Places in the midwest can have 90% relative humidity in the first place and I think that's a lot worse even with a dehumidifier.
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>>2986177
I've got a question about PLA drying, how long does it take to absorb water?
In my case I keep the garage where I 3d print at 45% humidity with a dehumidifier

I always wonder how long it takes for PLA to start getting saturated again

>>2986225
That bowden example looks like the ptfe tube was too long, and I bet it wasn't using a bi-metal hotend either, which in my experience makes bowdens work much better
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>>2986336
You can print on bambu printers offline by using an sd card with your gcode on it like any other printer.
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>>2986328
They print great. They're reasonably priced. There are other competitors who do certain things better.
Most people don't want to spend several thousand dollars to get a Prusa.
However, there's a lot of people who are from the era of printers being something you cobble together yourself and it all being under your control to modify and fuck with as you desire.

And whilst printers like that absolutely still do exist, and you can go buy one, or build your own. There's people who're unhappy that Bambu makes a popular product for people who just want to print stuff and not spend 30 minutes tinkering for every print.

It's kinda like the PC. PCs used to be this thing you had to know a guy who knew a bit of coding, knew about the hardware and was willing to spend the time to get it to do basic tasks.
Then people started making computers that had Windows on them, you couldn't code the OS yourself and people who didn't know how they really worked started using them and asking dumb questions.
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>>2986328
they released a firmware update to their printers that blocked network connection to 3rd party slicers. (you can still use them, but you had to use middleware to send your files to the printer, or use a USB drive).

they released another firmware update to all printers that added developer mode that lets you use whatever slicer you want, but this happened after the bambu outrage news cycle ended so no one heard or cared about that.
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>>2986328
good but locked down. weirdly affordable consumables/replacements for a printer that has it's own ecosystem.
Their ease of use has led to some controversy, some of it legitimate some of it just elitism.
My main gripe is the AMS bullshit that they've sent the market into hyperfocusing on. My street this morning was covered in plastic waste from a neighbor whose trash can tipped over with the wind. Guess what fell out?
Upside to this is now the market might hyperfocus on support interfaces and actively heated chambers.
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>>2986401
I want to blame the company but in truth it's normies choosing to make these needless multicolor prints at a horrendous waste.
I recommended the p1s to him as well.
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>>2986401
>>2986403
I want to throw it out there that you can setup an extra object on the build plate that can be printed with the purge filament, and it basically doesn't have to make all that waste
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>>2986401
I kinda hope Bambu comes up with some sort of multi-feed AMS.

The AMS in general is kinda weird and antiqued at this point.
>Seperate unit.
>Not compatible with anything else.
>I don't know a single person who owns a Bambu and doesn't have an AMS to go with it.
>Only a single output, which is currently the biggest barrier of multi-material printing on Bambus as you have to wait for the AMS to spool and unspool material.
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>>2986408
anon, the main object itself is also often waste.
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>>2986410
>hoodie
>sneakers
I'm going to say it
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>>2986338
>>2986344
Anon was asking what people get rustled by, I told them.
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>>2986350
>What I'm left wondering is the reason behind all other companies failing to really compete on the same level.
3d printing was hobbyist for a long time, this makes a dumbed-down, turn-key solution kind of pointless because your buyers never wanted that before, hated it even.

Bambu isn't stealing anyone's lunch because they're focused on normies who can use an app but couldn't possibly deal with downloading and compiling a slicer from source and although not many people do that, it's not exactly insane for any of us to consider.
Bambu's promise is that a consumer doesn't have to generate a bin full of plastic string and globs dialling shit in and can just hit print and plastic shit will print in quality ranging from good to excellent, first time, every time.

This expands the market but while not doing this is kind of a losing proposition for everyone else, it's only a loss in relative terms. Their own market is advanced enthusiasts so they're not losing any customers by failing to recruit normies into the market the way Bambu is.
They may even indirectly gain customers who came on board via Bambu and then graduated to "real 3d printing" after they learned a few things.

This means the incentive to go that way is somewhat weak and the risk isn't zero, so why chance it?
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>>2986353
If you’re running the dehumidifier anyhow for personal comfort, then that room is the place to put your filament storage containers of course. Unless it’s consistently at or below 20%RH, I’d still want to have it in a sealed box (or several) with desiccant. The lower ambient humidity will reduce the moisture rate leaking into the box, and the amount that gets in each time you open the box, but I suspect most moisture comes into the box bound up in filament (and cardboard spools) so the difference wouldn’t be drastic.

>>2986409
They’ve also been obsoleted by designs like the Kobra X’s toolhead, where it’s ultimately single-nozzle but the retraction amount brteeen changes is very minimal, and you don’t need an extra box taking up room.

>>2986426
You’re wrong, when the X1C came out it was a Voron without the hard work, reliable out of the box, and wih a warranty. This was targeting not the old guard of reprap hobbyists, but at its price point only the consumers with plenty of disposable income, I say it was at least as much targeting those whose time isn’t worth tinkering on machines. Be that professionals like engineers for rapid prototyping, or print-farm owners, or office workers whose time is too valuable to have to learn how to tinker on a printer at all. And just hobbyists who are fed up with their ender 3. The normies who buy an A1 or P2 aren’t the people who backed their X1 kickstarter. They originally said they’d never do bedslingers, but walked it back when they realised there was a new market as the apple of 3D printing.

Bambu machines are plenty capable for high-end hobbyist work. You can’t get in the weeds modifying the hardware more than some simple part swaps, and you can’t modify the firmware itself, but 99% of us would never feel the need to do so. Though a decent fraction of us might feel the need to prevent their printer from being able to brick itself.
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>>2986426
I get what you're saying from a historical perspective, but from a professional one I've seen more than one (admittedly small) business going for Bambu and never looking back. I too kinda wish my workplace chucked that fucking Raise3D in the trash for a fully kitted out H2D for the immense value in turn-key solutions that shit out (almost) perfect prints out of the box by way of manufacturer-provided profiles that are actually optimized. Also quality of life features and self-calibration have disproportionate value in a productivity environment: I know how to calibrate a printer, I lost half my sanity learning the ropes on my first bedslinger, but it still takes more time than a Bambu would take, which I don't mind at home, but I absolutely do at work.
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>>2986434
>You’re wrong
>I say it was at least as much targeting those whose time isn’t worth tinkering on machines
I feel like you're agreeing with me.

>>2986436
>I've seen more than one (admittedly small) business going for Bambu and never looking back
I admit, I was thinking purely of the consumer market and not the commercial market.
I have no experience of commercial printing so couldn't comment on it with any trace of authority.
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>>2986147
>>2986131
I was browsing though last thread and I found the thing that I wanted. >>2984507
Might also improve print time.
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>>2986408
There's no alternative for different types of material, is there? Cause I hate how much mine wastes whenever I have to swap from PLA to PETG or vice versa.
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>>2986436
Yeah it seems like Bambu have really hit that market of small-scale professionals. I'd rather buy a Prusa because of the third party support, open source, and down-the-line upgrades, but all of that means nothing to a professional. Twenty hours of printer troubleshooting or upgrading is of equal value to a new printer.

>>2986439
>I feel like you're agreeing with me
I may be bad at reading.
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>>2986396
>how long does it take to absorb water?
Most filaments* (including PLA) absorb most of the moisture they can hold on the order of a day or so (a result of typical environmental parameters and the geometry of filament being relatively consistent, Arizona excluded). The main distinction of PLA is that it doesn't absorb much, and what it does absorb doesn't bother it as much as most other materials. I've personally noticed slight degradation in print quality after most of a day in open air (for some aesthetic prints that had to be pristine that I was inspecting closely), but again it's PLA. It usually prints at least halfway decent at open-air equilibrium. Filament starts absorbing moisture the moment it contacts humid air cool enough that moisture will tend to migrate into the plastic. This can significantly degrade nylon print quality in a few hours at typical conditions. I've noticed PETG getting stringy in 8 or so, but it varies by brand.

*Supposedly polypropylene alone does not absorb moisture in any relevant amount under any relevant storage conditions. I keep mine in a drybox with other stuff to keep it organized and dust-free if nothing else.

>>2986398
>Then people started making computers that had Windows on them, you couldn't code the OS yourself
The last Windows computer I bought I booted straight to Linux from a live USB drive.
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Im having issues with Orcaslicer. I printed the Luna print with a Cura fork but with Orcaslicer I am getting a much slower print and some webbing on the supports. I literally don't know anything about orca and just downloaded, sliced and printed with no Benchy. All things considered I am glad it's working as well as it looks so far. What should I have done? Slice and print a benchy first and dial it in?
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>>2986454
well you could start by comparing temperatures, speeds, and retraction settings between your two slicers
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>>2986454
>with Orcaslicer I am getting a much slower print
This would probably be due to different speed/acceleration/flow and/or print structure settings.

>and some webbing on the supports
If the filament is dry, that would probably be due to different retraction and/or temperature settings.

>Slice and print a benchy first and dial it in?
First check the settings to see what is different between the slicers. If you see differences, you can do test prints to see what's behind the different print results. Benchies are good for checking a variety of things, but there are both more comprehensive test prints and faster / more focused test prints for if you know what you need to tweak.
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>>2986457
>>2986458
kk I'm going to let it finish of course then follow your all's advice. I think I am going to stay with orca since it does trees better then the Cura fork that comes with the printer. And I think that's a good idea to just translate the old settings into the new, but its not a 1:1 translation so it's a bit difficult for a neophyte like me. Thanks for the tips.
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>>2986346
>Oh are fibre-core filaments even worse at absorbing moisture than conventional fibre-filled filaments?
Counterintuitively I have found it to be the case, though the sample for non-core simply compares the bambu abs-gf|xypolyer abs-cf and qidi abs-gf25|siraya abs-cf20.
I bought four bambu abs-gf rolls and they were perfectly fine throughout their use being left outside any drybox or heated chamber. Then it was discontinued, after which I moved to qidi's abs-gf25core and siraya's abs-cf20core.
Perhaps it's more to do with the noticeably higher fiber content moreso than the core construction, but it can be rather annoying. I've been wanting to test this but I don't know of any two filaments of the same material with the only difference being the location of the fibers. Most cases in non-core filaments I found that it was 5-15 fibers (by weight? volume?). Almost all core filaments are 20% and above, with a much longer claimed individual fiber length.
I've got several rolls of flashforge pla-cf(8% fibers by weight? volume?) non core. it is my goto to test fitment on things before using expensive filaments, and it seems to handle humidity better than even regular pla somehow.
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>>2986460
Is it possible that the fiber core filaments use a different polymer composition? If so they may be more optimized for mechanical performance than low water absorption.
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>>2986462
possible for things like pla and nylons (I don't touch petg) hence why I didn't mention them too much. PLA I haven't found a core version, nylon I haven't found a difference between the two with regards to absorbing moisture. ABS is the only one that to my knowledge and from personal experience abs is just abs. So long as it doesn't have some bullshit "+" at the end of it it will all print the same from any manufacturer. Picrel has filament from sunlu, inland/microcenter, esun, "yayo" from some random ebay seller, hatchbox, and overture abs in it.
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>>2986462
also, this particular print has abs from that abomination spool along with qidi abs-gf25core (purple and neon green) spliced in because I wondered the same thing myself.
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>>2986464
>BS is the only one that to my knowledge and from personal experience abs is just abs.
leading to the conclusion that core filaments somehow end up being worse, though again, fiber content.
thanks to the anon that posted the sharpie trick awhile back, saved me quite the hassle in removing supports on a print that wouldn't have been possible otherwise.
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>>2986464
>abs is just abs
Not exactly. Polyethylene is "just" polyethylene, but that only refers to the kind of monomer that's used to make molecular chains, not how big the chains are or how they're structured. There are many, very different kinds of polyethylene which vary in these regards. Abs, further, is a terpolymer built from some mix of acrylonitrile, butadiene, and styrene monomers. The mix, various additives, and processing are varied to produce specific desired properties. Perhaps the manufacturer has a note somewhere.
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>>2986469
>Perhaps the manufacturer has a note somewhere.
probably, though I don't read.
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>>2986454
I would also like to add that you can do some calibration prints right there with orca. On the top there is a
>calibration
button with different settings. With these prints it is pretty easy to dial your settings in. It's pretty much what I do with a new filament. I usually do a benchy after dialing things in with the calibration tool. And for now I had good results. You can get further information on here:
https://www.orcaslicer.com/wiki/#calibrations
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>>2986473
ooooh based anon, thanks will look into this now. it's still printing, should be done in the next 12 hours, all for a 199g of model. lol
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>>2986445
If you print 4 or 5 copies of the stl at once, you can reduce the purge volume to around 20% more material per part, which isn't that crazy compared to doing one copy and it adding 100% more material per part.
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>>2986452
> the moment it contacts humid air cool enough
My garage is usually 80+ degrees and 45% humidity, is that going to saturate pla in 1 day?
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>>2986481
no, you'll be fine. pla in my experience takes a couple of months at 50+ rh before it starts affecting the print quality. even longer if you've stored it back into the back with the little packet of donoteat.
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>>2986481
Saturate, no, but that would get the outer layers of the spool a good ways there. Might notice a little stringing/oozing.
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damn i love being Australian.
my house is 30% humidity at the highest.
if i need to dry filament, i just leave it in a black binbag in the sun, instant 80c+.

only downside is pulling an overnight print off the bed, seeing it was stinging like crazy for some reason, then getting jumpscared by the spider whos web i mistook for stringing.
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>>2986481
Normal PLA is fine in that kind of situation for a month at least. But silk PLA is bad for asborbing moisture, fibre-reinforced is very bad too. I suspect PLA matte and some PLA "plus" blends aren't great for it either, not sure about glow-in-the-dark or marbled filaments or other filaments with inclusions, my guess is that the material boundaries on anything but very finely milled pigment acts as sites for moisture to become adsorbed like on fibre-reinforced filaments.

>>2986484
struth!
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>>2986264
>I second geting the filament dryer.
For me the AMS2 pro is very good for drying filament, honestly I wouldn't buy a separate dryer as it can dry 4 spools at the same time. I got humidity down to like 1% and my PETG prints came out way better. However it's not extremely humid in my region, maybe around 50% in that room in spring and summer, not sure how much better dedicated dryers are.
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A cheap Sunlu S1 Plus paired with DIY dryboxes made of cereal containers can go a long way.
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>>2986504
Can't that thing go no higher than 55C? Seems useless for anything other than PLA. You a silk printer?
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>>2986507
Yes, it's limited to 55. That mostly means that thirstier filaments take longer to dry.
I print PLA (non-silk) and PETG. I was also able to print Sunlu EasyPA (PA6+6.6) after drying it in S1.
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>>2986499
RH inside the unit is a function of the difference in temperature between outside and inside, for any given outside RH. I very much doubt you can get 1% RH, maybe you lost a 0 there, because if you have a 25°C room at 50% RH you can get down to 10% RH if you heat the same air up to filament-drying temperatures.

t. engineer
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>>2986205
Apologies, was away from pc for a few days so couldn't get back on this.
This one here is of the flat prints: ibb dot co/NnkTjjhD
>>2986272
I'll take a look into input shaping and see if I can tweak anything there. At least it's something else to look at, thanks anon
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do any of you guys have experience debugging corexy issues? im getting a grinding/clicking noise during high acceleration on my sv08 after a head crash from a print coming off the bed. it led to one belt slip, but i havent had any layer shifts on the next (current) print after that despite it going for 15 hours despite the noise. the first few layers wad waves in them diagonal to the build plate from some kind of resonance in the gantry.

i dont think its the linear rails, and looking into it it seems like either theres some shit on the idlers/belt drives, or in the belt teeth themselves so ill give them a clean once this prints done. what other issues might cause issues during high acceleration?
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>>2986454
finished product

I fucked up on the tail and its really a weak connection (something I am learning to check for when modeling) and I can't remove the supports without risking breaking it off. I already tweaked it once
Over all it took longer because of the default settings but overall it looks a lot better and the supports were so much easier to remove.
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>>2984660
I have an Ender 3 v2 that’s been giving inconsistent extrusion. Took a look at the extrusion gear and it’s pretty warm down so I tried to replace it. One of the grub screws won’t come loose and it seems the interior is stripped and the exterior is round (why?! Why not make the exterior edge hexagonal??? Or square?) . I tried everything: superglue to get traction, using a soldering iron to heat it up and get it loose, pinching the edges with needle nose pliers. Nothing works. Someone on a forum said you can just slide it up to use the teeth that haven’t been worn down. I’d love to do that if only I could get it to budge a friggin millimeter upwards but I can’t. I have another stepper motor that I bought for a different project but it’s a bit smaller (pic related). Could I just swap it for the smaller one and add the new extrusion wheel to that?
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>>2986562
WD-40 that bitch
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>>2986564
Tried that. Didn’t work
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>>2986562
>using a soldering iron to heat it up
Not really enough heat.
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>>2986562
soft metals fear dremel tools
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>>2986572
I wouldn't be comfortable blowtorching the fuck out of a motor. Dremeling/drilling the grub screw out definitely seems like the play.
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>>2986555
>This one here is
It's not helpful that you post images of preview of one part and a finished pic of a different one.

FWIW: I think you're probably seeing the voids in the infill.
You said that you saw it in 3 layer prints but the pic was of something with at least ten layers, so it will have had infill.

>>2986562
>One of the grub screws won’t come loose and it seems the interior is stripped and the exterior is round
It probably wasn't originally round, it was probably hex and been stripped a bit, either by you, a previous owner, or an overly-enthusiastic factory worker who put it on way too tight.

I'd start with a delicate dremel cut to put a notch (or two) in it and use a regular flat/phillips screwdriver.
If that doesn't work, I'd just clamp it really well (and possibly clamp the axle too) and use a drill press or a very, very steady hand.
FYI, there are STLs for a dremel drill press, despite that the dremel isn't really made for drilling. This task would probably be ok though.
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>>2986581
You can buy an official drill press attachment for the Dremel too, and it's not unreasonably priced. I used to have one and it's actually a pretty useful thing, you can also use it as a ghetto mini drum sander or sort of a bandsaw alternative with one of those spiral cutting bits.
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>>2986585
>You can buy an official drill press attachment for the Dremel too, and it's not unreasonably priced
I was going to buy it once but decided I'd print one instead and never got around to it.
If I'd actually bought it then I'd presumably never have found a need for it either so this is a case where 3d printing saved me money by providing a slightly higher barrier to wasting it than entering my credit card details.
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>>2986594
kek probably true. My ex was a cosplayer and it was really useful when I was making props and armor for her, I could set it up to cut intricate curves or sand consistent chamfers on edges of things and so on, but she took it when we broke up and I didn't see enough personal need to replace it.
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>>2986562
I’ve seen Creality CR-Xs come with red loctite on their extruder gear/grub-screw. I’d try to dremel the gear in half from two sides, any amount of heat that could release it would fry the motor, unless you can cover it in a wet towel.
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>>2986560
Use PETG as a support interface.
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>>2986579
you are supposed to be blowtorching the gear, then trying to get the grub out. The interface between the shaft and the brass will act as a heatbreak. if anything you're transferring more heat onto the sensitive parts of the stepper by holding a soldering iron on it for long. The idea is to heat up the brass faster than it can dissipate it's heat onto nearby components. here's after 8-10 seconds of torching on low.
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>>2986627
how do you do that with a Neptune 3 max ?
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Prototyping something that's going to be machined and I need to stick parts together without using hardware. (Especially because some will be magnetically attached to the steel parts.) Any recommendations? I have a low-temp hot glue gun but I'm struggling to find any details on how hot that actually is and whether it'll fuck up PLA.
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>>2986637
Meant to include a pic of some of the parts.
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>>2986599
>I didn't see enough personal need to replace it.
are you talking about the dremel tool, or the ex?
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>>2986637
Why not super glue?
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Is there any good desktop software that's free and open source for creating lithography files from regular photos? I know there's web-based apps for it, but I'd like to have something that works offline. Must work on linux.
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>>2986647
Heh, both I guess. I'd rather die alone than spend another week with that BPD nightmare.

>>2986653
I guess that could be an option but I'd rather something that isn't permanent. Double-sided tape is probably the real answer, I'm just being lazy and don't want to go buy some.

On a completely different subject I just picked up some white, black, and red PLA from a local store and with the grey I already had it meant I could print a birb to match my family's real one
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>>2986637
Can't you just print a test piece and hot glue the shit out of it to see how it's going to behave?
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>>2986657
>another week with that BPD nightmare
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>>2986658
please, do not cum on the prints sir.

that goes double for >>2986560 this guy
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>>2986636
Lots of manual filament changes.
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>>2986664
every layer? for 29 hours straight?
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well, modding the ender 3 was fun dont get me wrong, but i really am at the point were i just want to hit print and let it do its magic.
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>>2986667
the setup is all a WIP, I wish i could change the door opening to the other side but i cant, im not done setting it up yet
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>>2986668
>I wish i could change the door opening to the other side but i cant
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>>2986667
That's why you need at least three 3D printers.
1. Reliable machine that just works.
2. Fucked up unstable thing you're endlessly modding.
3. Backup for printing parts for 2 while 1 is busy.
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>>2986669
Looked it up. It seems like you legitimately can't without modding the thing and voiding your warranty.
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>>2986668
You can print hinges that let the door open 270 if you're into that.
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>>2986665
Only the interface layers, and it would probably end up a lot longer than 29 hours if that's the single-material estimate.
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>>2986671
Do you really own something if you haven't voided the warranty?
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>>2986674
It would be silly if your $900 toy shat the bed in a month due to a factory defect and you were denied warranty because of mods.
I'm all for changing things you don't like about your property, but it's way harder to justify when it comes to full on proprietary subscription and walled garden infested garbage.
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>>2986678
Bambu just send you parts if shit goes bad.
I had an issue with my AMS, and they just mailed me the part that was broke and told me to fix it.

Only time you send a whole ass printer back to them is if you're doing a refund.

Not to say that you should therefore break out the dremel and start cutting up your new printer. But, there's not really any way for them to know about you modding the door hinge.
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>>2986562
Use a dremel diamond wheel and cut a line across it, then extract with a flathead. You could also use a hacksaw if you're careful.

Or you could use a small puller to force it off. Once off it should spin freely.
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>>2986657
Super glue is meant to dissolve in acetone, but that might be enough to touch the plastic too. If you use little dots of it you might be able to break them off just fine. Why not wheat glue, PVA, or something else water-soluble?
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>>2986668
Print a riser. Thank me later.
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I'm having issues with corners warping and lifting off of the plate with my Elegoo CC2. The plate has two sides. One general purpose textured PEI side with 3/5 adhesion, and one PLA-specific side with 5/5 adhesion. The PLA side says 30C on it, but the slicer seems to default to 35C for that side. The PEI side seems to default to 63C. Which side and temperature should I use, and are there any other settings I should change? First layer temp, fan speed etc?
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>>2986744
What filament?
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>>2986695
PVA might be the best bet. I don't trust superglue to be removable without wrecking the parts, especially it'd be going between pretty large flat areas. (That are designed to be bolted together flush in the real thing.)
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>>2986745
Some cheap crap. It was the only one I could get from my local store: copymaster3D PLA
I should be getting some different stuff in the mail tomorrow: Soleyin Ultra PLA and Flashforge HS PLA.
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>>2986747
Try putting some glue on the bed. They give you a glue stick when you get the printer, use it.
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>>2986749
>They give you a glue stick
No
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>>2986751
Your printer didn't come with one?
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>>2986744
was it warping from the get go? Or after you used the bed a couple of times.
I wipe down my bed with 99% iso after each print, but still, after a couple of prints I have to scrub it down with some soap and warm water, or else even my PLA starts to warp.
Besides that you could use a glue stick, or hairspray to improve layer adhesion.
Personally I use a bed temperature of 55°C and a slightly textured PEI plate for PLA prints. My first layer prints at 220°C like the rest of them. My first PLA layer prints at 60mm/s with a 0.4 nozzle.
I also use mouse ears as brims. That might help you too.
Printing is like everything else. Prepare to make some mistakes. That's how you'll learn what's important and improve on your skills.
Good luck anon
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>>2986754
>a slightly textured PEI plate for PLA prints
PLA sticks better to smooth PEI. As in a sheet stuck to the steel with adhesive, not a powdercoat.
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If my printer has one of those plasticky brush thingies for cleaning the nozzle and I want to buy another plate with those cool patterns to have reflective colourful print surfaces, do I need to adjust the g-code or something to account for not having the nozzle cleaning thing? What's the name of that setting on Orca?
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>>2986752
No, none of my printers have come with one, and I haven't heard of any of my friend's getting one and they all have different brands. FlashForge, Prusa, Bambu, Creality, and Elegoo.
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>>2986763
Mine is from creality and it did come with one.
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>>2986764
or you could print yourself one of the silicone nozzle cleaner mods like pic related. They come in different sizes and some even with a hinge.
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>>2986765
Are those things even effective? I might do that. I'm mostly concerned about the printer trying to clean itself expecting it to be there and failing because the new plate doesn't have one.
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>>2986754
I have used the printer about five times. Don't have IPA, only methanol, which I'd rather not handle because it can get absorbed by the skin. Soap removes oils, but won't it leave a film that might be just as bad? Dish soap or hand soap?
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am i fucking retarded? i cannot get anything to stick to the bed of this piece of shit ender3 s1. and yes, i know its dogshit. is the bed temp sensor broken maybe? it gets warm but idk if it actually hits 60c
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>>2986768
>Dish soap or hand soap?
honestly I don't know which one I did use the last time. Got both standing at my sink and now that I think about it I probably used both at one point. I realized that it's the best way to get rid of those imprints that show up after a while.
Like on this plate for example. One good scrubbing and it looks and behaves like new in my experience. Be aware that a smooth plate would be better for PLA like >>2986757 said. This is just the smoothes plate that I own and it works fine for me. Used it for PLA, ASA and TPU so far. On bigger prints with ASA I do use some glue stick from time to time.
Now that I think about it, my first use of glue stick was the reason for me scrubbing down the plate with soap and warm water in the first place. That's when I realized how well it restored the surface of the plate.
>>2986767
>Are those things even effective?
this mod, or the silicone wiper in general?
I don't know. I've only used the ones with the wipers, but I would do this mod, if I would get some third party plate.
My guess is, the printer checks, if the wiper is there before wiping. Mine touches the left little pad and then the right little pad of the wiper to "check" if it is there. And then it uses it. Source: it came to me in a dream. So don't take it as a word of wisdom.
If you find out, let us know though.
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>>2986762
I suspect that there would be not problem leaving it as-is. The print head would just do a little dance in the air where the nozzle cleaner would have been. Just manually make sure that there's no junk on the nozzle.
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>>2986763
My bambu came with a gluestick, go to the supermarket and buy one i guess. Could try hairspray but that didn't work real well for me, some gluesticks also suck.
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>>2986770
turn the bed on manually like 10m before starting the print.

60C you should be able to put your hand on it but not keep it there because it will feel like you're going to get burnt but you won't actually get burnt. you can estimate temps from ~1cm away too, although I doubt "too hot" is your problem.

also wash with dishsoap
also double check the plate type and filament in the slicer, when my prints fail on the plate as opposed to later it's usually one of these two things

worst case you can put blue painters tape down, it actually makes a great surface.
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>>2986777
bambu gluesticks and elmer's are not the same. the bambu glides on smoother and isn't really as tacky, it's closer to never dry. the purple to white clear builds up more and drys for real, there is more residue. I only use bambu sticks now they're just cleaner and better suited.
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>>2986763
>Prusa
Prusas come with a stick of Kores glue stick, and they toss in a stick with spools of their more warp-prone filament.

>>2986768
>only methanol, which I'd rather not handle because it can get absorbed by the skin
Wear rubber gloves. Disposable nitrile works well.

>Soap removes oils, but won't it leave a film that might be just as bad?
Not if you rinse the soap off, which is part of the "washing" process. Soap is soluble in water. It cleans better than alcohol because the process washes stuff entirely away with clean solvent (water) rather than wiping that leaves a film of solvent (alcohol) behind.

>>2986773
>Got both standing at my sink
Hand soap for hands. It's usually formulated to not dry out skin. Dish soap for power cleaning. It's much more aggressive at dissolving grease/oil. I use a pre-mixed spray bottle of dish soap and water for deep cleaning print beds. Abrasive-containing industrial hand cleaner is also good to have by the sink. It aggressively removes grease and other DIY dirt from hands without drying them excessively. You can find it in the automotive section of most hardware or big box stores. Definitely not for print beds.
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>>2986779
Yeah the bambu one was the best of them, elmers worked ok and the looney tunes branded uhu sticks i got for real cheap sucked dick, many failed prints before i learned it's not the case that they're all the same.
I have a biqu cool plate for pla and petg and it just werks without any glue.
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>>2986770
are you printing on a textured PEI plate? if so, you have to clean it with dish soap and vigorous brushing. IPA will only clean smooth PEI

this is a bambulab wiki, but the information here applies to all textured PEI plates
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/filament-acc/acc/pei-plate-clean-guide
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>>2986798
>IPA will only clean smooth PEI
It cleans textured PEI, but it doesn't wipe away as cleanly, so it doesn't clean as well as on smooth PEI. Still a good regular maintenance measure.
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>>2986798
Soap doesn't seem to do shit against ASA residue. No amount of scrubbing cleans it. Shit's fucked.
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>>2986801
What is the print surface made of?
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>>2986801
>ASA residue
Use 100% acetone.
Just make sure it's not watered down any.
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>>2986803
>>2986804
Textured PEI, if I use acetone it'll strip the sheet. I might try cleaning it by just doing a whole sheet print and then peeling it, see if that gets rid of residue.
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how are you people even ending up with residue on your sheets.
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>>2986812
glue builds up. I have sheets that have become textured because of repeated use, especially with the school glue sticks. I could wash them every print but it's only my cool plate and I use PEI for almost everything.
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Why are my prints coming out like this? It’s on an Ender 3 . Never had issues like this before. The flow is inconsistent. It starts out fine enough and then gets stringy. It’s like something is impeding the flow? Do I need to change the nozzle? Set the print temp higher?
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>>2986842
What is the print temp? What is the speed?
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>>2986843
220 , 50 mm/s, standard PLA
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>>2986845
Both are fine. Try unloading filament and poking the nozzle with a needle. I remember getting hnderextrusion out of nowhere and it was a clog.
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is the x2d the go to for a printer around $1000 Australian dollars? not printing multicoloured any time soon but want accuracy and ease of use above all else
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>>2986861
Depends on your needs: a X2D has the big advantage of a temperature controlled chamber and a secondary nozzle, mainly for printing supports in a different material that doesn't bond with the actual print. The chamber is great for higher temperature materials like ASA, PA6, and the secondary nozzle is a nice to have too,but if you don't have the need to print high temp materials you may very well go for a cheaper option.

Also, the X2D looks cobbled together, nice but in a way unrefined. I'd wait for the next evolution if you're not in a "I want it yesterday" situation.
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>>2986867
fair I might just wait. also I'm not up to date with materials, I used to use petg and pla, but I guess they're old school?
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>>2986842
Probably a clog, maybe an extruder issue. Try a cold pull, then a needle, and inspect your extruder and bowden path.
Stock ender 3 v2 in 2026 is brave.
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>>2986861
>not printing multicoloured any time soon
I don't print multicolour either but if I had a second filament option, I'd find ways to use it.
Soluble supports are an obvious use-case that would save me a lot of trouble.
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>>2986882
ah I might look into that then.
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>>2986861
It's decent. But, I think it compares unfavourably to the Snapmaker U1.
U1 is basically just PETG and PLA only though.
But the toolhead changing is way better than whatever Bambu is doing.
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>>2986861
multiple filaments can also be used to do different prints with different colors.
the number of times i've been too lazy to prit something because it would mean swapping the rolls out, automatic that is a great treat.
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>>2986879
They're not. They have their purpose and they're situational. Of course if you need to make things that don't have any particular requirement you go with the cheapest filament, which usually is PLA. Don't be fooled by this though: mechanically PLA is the strongest (highest elastic modulus, highest yielding point) base material (i.e. not counting any filling, like glass or carbon fibers) of all, with two big caveats: it has a very low glass transition temperature and suffers from creep under tension. ABS was popular because it's cheap and handles high temperatures well, and can be vapor smoothed, but it's been made obsolete by ASA, since it's also more resistant to UV than ABS, is in the same price ballpark, and can also be vapor smoothed. Nowadays you got a wide selection of engineering filaments, which as an engineer I'm always skeptical about, not because I don't believe the datasheet (well, I don't, but it's a different conversation), but because one should seriously consider a different manufacturing method altogether if the part requires exotic materials when 3d printing. Don't get me wrong, they're good to have and they do provide value in those niches and edge cases where they make sense, mainly sports, industrial prototyping, etc, maybe aerospace, but from a consumer perspective I don't get the hype.
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>>2986778
>>2986798
I bought this printer 2 years ago and it's never printed right even out of the box. Why would they ship it with a rough surface if that's not good for pla? It came with a spool of pla...
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>>2986908
yeah I feel like escalating to PLAcf or engineering filaments is not necessary until ASA fails some usecase. I think very few prints actually even need PETG and even then most of you stupid negros don't understand the difference between PETG and PLA or even what PLA+ is much less *why* you'd use PC-ABS or something. I mean consider the sheer (jej) number of people who can't even orient or design prints to avoid shear.
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>>2986910
if you bought it two years ago without a magnetic plate bed then you're already flintstones tier sam and I can't blame anybody but (You)
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Not printing, but I guess this is a place full of CAD experts. How long did it take you to master your tools?
I'm trying to use "sheet metal model" in OnShape and it simply doesn't work as shown in tutorials, the basic step of converting two adjacent surfaces into a sheet metal model with a bend between them doesn't work, I can't tell it to add the bend.
So instead of the advertised workflow of making geometry from simple solids and then converting it into sheet metal with all bend radii nicely applied I go backwards — I start with a single metal sheet, calculate all offsets taking bend radius into account, and bend that sheet where I need.
It works, the result matches what I want and 100% possible to fabricate since I'm already virtually fabricating it, but figuring out all that trigonometry formulae like a caveman is not exactly fun.
I wonder if it is worth investing the time into learning the tooling better and figure out why doesn't it do what tutorials show, or screw it, better just git gud at mathing the offsets and angles.
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>>2986918
OnShape is more focused on being easy to use whereas Fusion360 has a really fucked up learning curve with an insane amount of outdated tutorials that in almost no way match the current toolset. Worth learning in my opinion, but then again OnShape would probably be worth it if I didn't already invest the time in Fusion360.

Essentially you should bother to figure it the fuck out and do it right.
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>>2986918
>>2986919
It doesn't help that Fusion seems to change significant shit every two weeks. Personally I found it pretty easy to learn but I did it in an actual class, and I still run into shit that's counterintuitive or not obvious and when I try to look it up the shit I find on google is 2 years old and doesn't work anymore. Hell they even changed the name, it's just "Fusion" now.

I intend to switch to Solidworks as soon as it's practical (I'm still taking classes that require Fusion and don't want to switch back and forth), since that's by far the most common one in industry while Fusion is basically only used by amateurs and small businesses. I've heard that SW has much better sheet metal tools so that might make it a decent choice and the maker license is cheap if you're just working solo and don't need to share the SW files with pro users. (You can still output normal .dxfs and .stls obviously, and I think .step files too.)
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>>2986910
>I bought this printer 2 years ago and it's never printed right even out of the box
Most printers need dialing in when you first get them.
You're really saying that you never managed that.
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>>2986842
Update: I thought I had it working. Then it started doing the same thing. When I remove the filament, it looks gnarled like this. I guess that means there’s a clog at the hot end? How do I fix this?
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>>2986940
Remove the nozzle and put the cleaning needle through it.
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>>2986940
heat the nozzle and put the cleaning needle through it, don't remove it
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Pretty hard to choose a new printer these days, desu.
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>>2986927
i leveled the bed (and now the z axis sensor gets stuck when trying to release) but i am reading the "calibrate your printer" links from the op now
yes i am retarded
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>>2986945
I used a 46 gauge guitar e string like that noclogger tool but I didn’t even need to remove the Bowden tube since it’s long enough to reach without it. Thanks for your help everyone!
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>>2986958
is it though, is it really?
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>>2986975
I can be tough to decide between enclosed core xy printer #3 and corexy enclosed printer #32.
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>>2986975
Yes.
X2D, U1 or save up and get a H2D.
Or maybe there's another printer I'm unaware of.
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>>2986908
>but it's been made obsolete by ASA
ASA has equal better performance, but ABS is cheaper, so it still has a niche today.

>>2986915
>escalating to PLAcf
Fiber-reinforced PLA can be annealed with minimal distortion to produce the most heat-resistant easy-to-print material available today. That seems to improve creep resistance, so it makes PLA suitable for a wider range of structural uses. Suitable for things like custom silica gel containers that you can toss in an oven for regeneration.

Don't forget TPU. Flexibles can be really useful to have in the toolbox.

>>2986978
Consider a RatRig. More or less "generic enclosed coreXY printer" on steroids. Has hybrid coreXY and idex as options, as well as build volumes up to 500mm.
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>>2986980
I have indeed considered enclosed core xy printer #23, but I disliked a few aspects about it.
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>>2986980
>ASA has equal better performance, but ABS is cheaper, so it still has a niche today.
and there are slightly more colors for ABS
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>>2986980
>ASA has equal better performance,
only for UV.
Granted, I've only tested one spool of ASA and it was no easier to print with than abs, the temperature resistance ended up being about 10C lower than advertised, and it was just as soft with equal or worse layer adhesion. And yes, it was also 2x the cost of an abs spool.
I think the data from mtf's testing corroborates this but I don't care to go find it. iirc some anon uploaded the paid pateron results to an onlyfans mirror site.
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>>2986888
With an enclosure the U1 seems to be fine at ABS. I think people have made chamber heaters and even sealed filament holder covers, but it’s not ideal. I'd relocate the filament buffers so you could use them with dry boxes.

But it definitely does seem like the X2D is aimed more at engineering filaments than the U1, good to see more of that in the market.

>>2986915
PC-ABS is perfectly sensible to use if you want something more impact resistant than ABS. I’d trust it more than “ABS-Tough” mystery blends.

>>2986958
Wait for the INDX knockoffs. Or anyone to sell a printer without a toolhead so you don’t have a $150 paperweight after upgrading your printer to have a 3rd party toolchanger.

>>2986981
HevORT. With INDX.
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i comitted the sin of using quarter cubic infill. this shit is so ass, i had to babysit this shit for 9 hours while the head kept crashing over layers it had just deposited in case i had to clip it when it delaminated and i spent at least an hour fucking with it like that versus the half hour orca was estimating itd save me. lesson learned, i will never use anything other than gyroid ever again.
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>>2986919
>>2986925
Yep, spending a bit more time learning how it works already paid off, turned out that to create bends while creating a sheet metal model I just needed to have faces adjacent _on the same surface_, while I tried to do this with adjacent surfaces. That surely saved me time already.

Now I have to deal with the actual pain: ordering 100 parts costs 850 EUR, ordering one part costs 150 EUR. And I still don't know what hole spacing should I use in my parts as I need consistent clamping force and the only way to check the consistency that I can trust is to take the actual part and check if it leaks.
Feels like I should just order 3x the parts I need and drill them manually until I figure out the maximum viable spacing.
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>>2987063
>ordering 100 parts costs 850 EUR, ordering one part costs 150 EUR
Buy 100.
Keep 10, sell 90 in packs of 5 on ebay for 200EUR
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>>2987074
I suspect the demand for random dude's turboencabulator design-in-progress prototype parts is not that high.
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>>2987079
>I suspect the demand for random dude's turboencabulator design-in-progress prototype parts is not that high.
Oh, I didn't realise he was ordering a custom part as a small batch run, the pricing makes perfect sense then.
I thought it was just some mass produced thing that was only sold in small quantities at significant markup.

>>2987063
Are you ordering sintered metal printing or something?
If you're prototyping, is a mold on a print adequate?
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Not what I expected from a cold pull
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>>2987109
Seems like a good sign of you’re troubleshooting, hopefully that’s fixed your problems.
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>>2986995
>HevORT
Looks like a lot of work.
>all those linear rails
Looks expensive.

In principle it's cool as fuck, in practice it looks like a hobby in and of itself, something where the ultimate function is almost a byproduct . Most people just want to press print and have thing. You know, the Bambu experience.
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>>2987137
I'd rather the prusa experience where I actually own the damn thing.
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>>2987138
At only twice the price and half the features!
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>>2987141
>has to deal with iot and proprietary shenanigans.
just wait for the net few years to start implementing some form of file control/history as some states are mandating.
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>>2987141
>and half the features!
Like the front falling off?
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>>2987141
NTA, but I bought my Prusa just before Bambu hit the market and it's been so great Prusa has locked in my brand loyalty. That said, I recommend Bambu to people just getting into printing for the obvious reasons of price and ease of use. But damn I do love my Prusa
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Didn't Prusa recently-ish announce they're moving away from open source to some bullshit community thing?
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>>2987141
There doesn’t actually seem to be as much in it. A Core One + costs twice as much as a P2S, but I’d say it’s got at least 90% of the features. The Prusa camera is the only thing that stands out to me as being worse. But I don’t have either machine so I’m just going off the reviews I’ve seen.
While not features, you can assume there will be better long-term support and upgrade paths available. Plus the open firmware makes available plenty of third party upgrades, like INDX or boxturtle or a chamber heater that connects to Klipper or whatever.
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>>2987147
Open source is one of those things companies say they wanna do when the market is really small, or they occupy a tiny portion of the market.
But once big money starts getting thrown around it completely goes out the window.
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>>2987147
>>2987156
They're doing a different kind of licensing for open source. They still publish the designs, but the release license restricts commercial products using that information. So random users can make/mod whatever they want, but if a company sells a clone (they're free to make clones for internal use), Prusa can get them on breach of contract, which is supposedly a lot faster/easier than intellectual property violations.
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>>2987160
So, closed source.
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>>2987162
"Open source" means that design information is made public, not that its use is unrestricted. Creative Commons licenses (long used for open source projects) can incorporate a number of restrictions, for example.
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>>2987162
It's complicated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_and_open-source_software_licenses
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>>2987163
Yeah, so closed source, but they're opting to share it with people as they desire, and can stop sharing it just as easily.
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>>2987172
>but they're opting to share it with people as they desire, and can stop sharing it just as easily.
Right. People making projects open source generally aren't obligated to do so. But what they make public IS open source. That's what the term means.
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>>2987176
No it doesn't.
Open source means the source is open for anyone to use and own.
Not that one company owns the source, and has the legal right that only they can own it, but they let you use it if you're a good goy.
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>>2987177
See >>2987171.
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>>2987177
>>2987179
To elaborate, free / open source licenses are LICENSES. They are methods by which the owner of some intellectual property makes their intellectual property publicly available while retaining certain rights over it. It is not the same thing as putting it in the public domain.
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>>2987180
>>2987179
So, open source in name only, effectively.
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>>2987181
As previously stated, >>2987163
>"Open source" means that design information is made public, not that its use is unrestricted.
You're just mistaken about what the term means. Public domain is different.
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https://opensource.org/osd
>1. Free Redistribution
>The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.

>6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor
>The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

You cannot be open source and limit the sale of derivations of your designs according to The Open Source Initiative.
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>>2987181
Even code that is viewable but not legally modifiable is still open and useful because you can audit the code. This is super important for Infosec.
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>>2987184
The Open Source Initiative isn't the only initiative and definitely not the authority.
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>>2987187
That seems a very convenient line to draw and mostly done by fanboys who don't want to keep their favorite company accountable.
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>>2987188
>fanboys who don't want to keep their favorite company accountable
Are you talking about Prusa? Nothing they are changing makes them less accountable. All their code is on Github and it's trivial to reverse engineer the hardware. Are they are profiting off open tech? Fuck yeah they are and they always have been just like every other tech company. I don't understand the outrage.
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>>2987188
What are you talking about?
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>>2987184
The GPL forbids people from making money by selling the licensed source code or its derivatives, and everyone seems to be fine with that being considered open-source. Is it really so hard to imagine the exact same restriction being applied to hardware?

The important part of the GPL is that subsequent revisions must continue being on the same license, or a compatible license, which matters when you have continuity of a single software project over decades, for free software that gets other tools built on top of and that gets forked. But whether that is or isn't the case for Prusa's new hardware license, if they make a new printer from the ground up every 5 years they can put that under a more closed license anyhow. There simply isn't the same concern for forks and continuity that there is for software.
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>>2987193
>GPL forbids people from making money by selling the licensed source code or its derivatives
um I'm not sure that's true.

Each contributor grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide, royalty-free patent license under the contributor's essential patent claims, to make, use, sell, offer for sale, import and otherwise run, modify and propagate the contents of its contributor version.
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>>2987207
Ah, so it's just the fact that you have to keep the same license for derivative works and that you have to publish the source that results in all GPL licensed works being free. Now I look like a prick.

If the chinkos would actually obey the license terms and quickly publish their modifications to the source, for 3D printing software and hardware, I think there'd be less stopping Prusa from remaining a fully open-source company. They already solely make money from people who think the build quality and aftermarket support is going to be better than a chinese machine, more sino-clones aren't going to change that.

I also think there's room for more restrictive licenses, such as those that forbid the source code or its derivative being used to violate defined liberties, or are not functional without being coupled to closed-source software. What's happened to the AOSP is a tragedy.
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>wanted to print some shims to try and level K1 bed
>new models don't let you access the bed mesh
I hate creality so much its unreal...
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>>2987241
It's for your safety.
You might... uhhh... do it wrong.
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Is there a way quick way to make molds with blender?
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>>2987286
I assume you already have the part you want a mold for, so just make a big block, put the part inside it and run a boolean? I don't know if blender has that function but FreeCAD does.
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>>2987261
I can't want for this piece of shit to get rooted.
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>>2987291
Why not? I think it would solve this particular problem.
What does the K1 show you in terms of bed leveling? Does it show you the relative difference in elevation? Like the highest and the lowest spot. If so, just shim one corner, level it again and take notes. Then repeat. Tedious, but it might work.
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>>2987308
>can't wait
My bad.
>What does the K1 show you in terms of bed leveling?
That's the problem, it shows absolutely nothing. I can't even do it manually like you described. The previous K1 model does show you the mesh just fine, it's 2025 model that's fucked up closed source bullshit, and creality's been ignoring the demands for releasing the code, even if they're breaching the GPL license by refusing to.
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>>2987289
you forgot keypins, sprues and pour hole
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>>2987311
>can't wait
I see, now it makes more sense.
I am not sure if they changed the mainboard for the 2025 version. But if they didn't do it, would it be possible to erase its memory and flash an older version onto it to get root access that way?
If that shit doesn't work, you'll probably have to wait for them to release it. They did it for the older K1, K1max and the K1C. Not immediately though. Patience anon, patience.
Your dubs are a sign of good luck, it'll work out in the end.
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>>2987311
Get an AI to write a legalese cease and desist note to email them.
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I really should be continuing work on a project I need for, well, work(dayjob) but I genuinely can't be arsed.
What's some useful/fun/intriguing stuff you've found on printables/thingiverse/elsewere that I can print while my filament is dry? I just want to push button and receive dopamine at the moment.
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>>2987289
>>2987313
yeah that's basically that's what i need, I seen an addon, but It's a 60 dollar subscription and screw that noise
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>>2987325
>blender, which is FOSS, has paid addons
Damn.
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>>2987289
>I don't know if blender has that function
>>2987325
>yeah that's basically that's what i need
You can do the boolean in basic Blender easily enough, you'd have to do the extra channels and stuff manually.
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>>2987326
>blender, which is FOSS, has paid addons
There are dual-use licenses that permit companies to use the free software but sell what they make, plus links to the libraries or whatever.
In this case, it's a paid plugin over the top of a free application.
Not significantly different from running a closed application on an open source OS.

Half of my career has been under these licenses, they permit companies to use open source software and contribute back to it when necessary. This makes the OSS the defacto standard and somewhat discourages proprietary competitors as well as gets paid developers working on OSS, which can be a problem for obscure OSS libraries that prop up everything but haven't seen a security review in years.

This is about as "without controversy" as the OSS community ever gets about anything, I think most people think it's good to get industry using OSS and if someone makes some money out of OSS, that's not technically bad for anyone that wrote the OSS that is being used to support some commercial use.
If your software is free, you don't get a lot of say on how people put it to use, so long as they agree to share what you contributed.
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How can I turn failed prints into new filament for as cheap as possible?
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>>2987344
You don't. Each re-melt reduces viscosity, so you have to mix in plenty of virgin pellets, it's simply not worth it unless you're running a print farm. Maybe it's worth doing if you have a printer that prints directly with pellets, good luck with that.
What might be worth doing is melting down prints into silicone moulds, e.g. of gridfinity bins or something else you'd use a bunch of the same part for. Or into a sheet you'd cut up for other craft purposes, like making knife scales.
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>>2987346
Say I buy some virgin pellets as well. What kind of tooling and equipment will I need and how much is it gonna cost?
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>>2987348
That new Creality one is probably as cheap as you can get something that works reasonably, not that I know if it's going to be a reliable buy yet. I've seen plenty of youtube rubes buy cheaper machines and get nothing but inconstistency. More importantly, the time investment spent probably isn't worth it, you'll be babying the machine during its start and end to make sure it spools properly, plus the loading of pellets. For a $10 roll of PLA, is that really worth it? The equation is better if you're making 3-5kg rolls I guess.
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>>2987348
thousands right now. and hours, so many fucking hours and for a good product you need to extrude multiple times- printers do not like lumpy filament. there is a reason only niche youtubers are doing it. also did you even look before asking? it's like you don't even know what you're asking for.

tell you what, if you want you can send me your failed prints and $20 and I'll send you back a spool of filament using my own equipment.
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>>2987354
>printers do not like lumpy filament
Not him, but can those filament diameter sensors connected to your 3D printer compensate for that?
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>>2987355
https://www.hackster.io/news/this-3d-printer-filament-tester-measures-filament-diameter-consistency-e5e221c751dd
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>>2987357
Yeah I know they exist, but those are designed to compensate for the smaller variations on normal rolls. I was wondering if the much wider variations on diy rolls, when compensated for width-wise, will still give your unwanted print artefacts.
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>>2987355
I preordered the creality machine, and my expectations are low. I will only be using virgin pellets, and I have a $50k a year 3d printing business so I go through about 10+ spools per week. If you are not doing this volume, the payback on the device is probably 10+ months.

I didn't even get into the filament diameter either. This is something I feel is going to be a problem, and to compensate for it I have purchased two infinity flow systems. As soon as the diameter is too big it will cut the filament and start on the next spool. I think biqu has a system for this too. You are looking at another $200 for that system. Start using recycled plastic and things look even more grim. You also cannot really buy virgin pla in 10kg units economically so you have to buy a whole pallet which will run you like $5k. It makes sense for me at my scale, and im cutting it close, and even that is debatable.
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>>2987401
Forgot to add that these virgin pellets need to be dried, you need to mix colorant, and you need to babysit the machine probably every hour. It basically becomes a full time job. This machine is for someone like twice the size as me that would have two units and an employee to manage a print farm.
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>>2987401
I looked into it and the width sensors can be fed into Klipper, which will compensate extrusion ratio. Maybe change filament roll if it gets so large or small that the extruder won't handle it well, but it seems to me like within 0.2mm or whatever you should be able to print without artefacts. Or are you stuck on closed source printers?
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>>2987405
I have 12 closed source printers. If I had 1 open source printer I wouldnt be in business.
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>>2987408
Shoulda bought a Prusa.
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>>2987409
I have seen probably a dozen videos of print farms that have a prusa sitting in the corner like a good little cuck collecting dust. I don't care who makes the printer, I just want something that prints. My focus needs to be on 3d modeling, inventory management, shipping and swapping filament rolls. All that other shit is for the birds.
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>>2987411
Being able to print with varying filament widths seems to be worth something if you're going to be rolling your own filament. Seems like a Core One might be worth it for that. Or idk, a Qidi with a chamber heater if you're already doing warp-prone prints, or even a rooted Bambu.
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>>2987413
I do single color prints and think the infinity flow should hopefully be enough, but my other worry is how consistent the color is on each spool. If I make two spools will a 3-4 hour print be the same shade throughout. Even on purchased filament I get different shades if doing one print with two spools most of the time. I have had some rolls that seem to be pretty consistent.

The other thing I hope the creality is good for is getting same color rolls and quality. I have probably bought 200 rolls of this specific colored creality pla. Same print settings, same print, basically everything the exact same but the roll is completely shot. Theres a mechanical component on one of my prints and it just basically turned to dust. Another issue I have is filament being on backorder. I dont want to have to wait 2 weeks to get a color I use often. Overall im hoping its a good product because it can solve a ton of problems, but like the creality products I have had before, its probably going to require some fiddlefucking or its just a brick. Its definitely worth trying though because it would basically double my margins. More risky than not trying.
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>>2986336
>could
>if
>imagine
so you have nothing LOL
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>>2987479
It already took massive public outcry when they pulled the slicer shennanigan.
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>>2987416
unpopular opinion?
If you've already got an enclosed chamber printer you can achieve the same as a qidi set to ~50 by preheating the bed and not running the exhaust fan. most of the advantage I get out of my q1 and x-max 3 are from printing abs, filtering the abs farts through a charcoal filter keeping the chamber at a slight negative pressure, and heating the chamber with the heater to keep incoming air from cooling shit.
On prints where I forget the exhaust fan speed the chamber heater barely runs to keep the sensor at 55C.
I'd much rather wait for the new direction the market is going with properly done dual print heads for support interfaces than to buy/build a new printer right now.
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>>2987479
Surely a proprietary walled-garden ecosystem company won't pull more anti-consumer shit.
It would be completely unheard of.
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A prototype. I had this filament in the dryer for like 3 days. Now I am making one thats like 4 times as big. Its 350mm, its gonna take 5 days. lol
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>>2987509
before you do that, make sure you tune your resonances/tighten belts, calibrate your flow rate and pressure advance, hell even do a pid tune.
they take a tiny amount of filament and it's often worth it if you haven't before.
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>>2987509
is there no way to bring the print time down a little? Without reducing the quality of course?
What kind of infill are you going to use?
In any case, good luck.
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>>2987509
>I had this filament in the dryer for like 3 days.
Filament generally reaches equilibrium much faster than that.

>its gonna take 5 days
If the filament is sensitive to moisture, you'll need a printing drybox to keep it dry if you don't live in Arizona or some place similar.
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>>2987511
I dont know what most of that means. I have some research to do. And yea I shouldve tightened the belts. Thanks for the tips
>>2987512
its freaking huge so its gonna take a long time and Im like 6 hours in already so Im just going to let it cook.
>>2987513
yea well since the temp fell to below freezing in the shed overnight a couple days ago it errored and stopped on its own. And I think I'm in a pretty dry area. N. Mi for reference. Feels dry enough at least, I will hope for the best since I don't have one of those. Also I am using the Elegoo brand filament it seems to be a better water resistant filament then the amazon crap I have been using.
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>>2987516
>N. Mi for reference.
So lake effect humidity. Mid 70s percent average, and pretty consistent year-round. You do not live some place similar to Arizona.
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>>2987525
Yea Im not in the Sierra Nevada. I have never attempted anything this big before so maybe it will work maybe it won't. Only one way to find out. ^:)
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>>2987516
>n.Mi
Sup.
Anyways, if you're using orca slicer/bambu slicer it's incredibly easy to tune these two things. Just read through the tab and the page that it loads without getting glassy eyed. pick one of the various methods for each mode of calibration, and go from there.
For pressure advance i like the tower method, I find it easier to tell "yeah that looks right" over the other methods even if it does use more filament.
For the extrusion multiplier(flow rate) I'd probably start with the fine since you're already pretty close.
If you're using a different slicer just let us know, there's still other methods. Also, extrusion multiplier *before* pressure advance.
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>>2987533
>Sup.
Oh I love how the winter in Northern MI takes care of all the vermin. I have learned to really love the cold. Also I have been acclimating to it lately. It seemed to me it wasn't even that cold this last winter. Although I can't print during it.
Also I have used orca slicer and I was super impressed with the quality. Although it was 50% slower then my OEM Cura fork that I know works. So its been cold a couple days so I couldn't dial in the Orcaslicer but I plan to after this big ass print. I really like the tree supports. So much better then the OEM slicer. Thanks for the info I will look into these settings after this print and the weather holds.
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>>2987536
Cura also has some calibration tabs, maybe it's worth looking for an update of the fork which I presume was made specifically for your printer. If nothing else tighten belts and lube rods/tighten vwheels.
>love how the winter in Northern MI takes care of all the vermin.
I have no problems with the natives. But pic related permeates the entire state and survives winters.
t. spent all afternoon planting a wildflower bed and got stung by some insect.
ungrateful bastard.
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ok, i think im happy with this setup, theres a dedicated work station on the other side of the room.
I thought i did a good job at modernizing my ender 3 but this thing is honestly a piece of alien technology. I think il get a HT AMS for the Aux, manually loading the aux is a chore. I did have some issues with the AMS not loading, i just re oriented some tubing and it seems fine now.
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>>2987550
The scissor lift is the first 'real' project on it,
Not to be a glazer, but using the bambu ecosystem is so much more easy and enjoyable then slicing in cura the exporting to moonraker and all that.
put my company logo on the SL with bambustudios inbuilt tools.
Unfortunately there are no free articulating boom lifts so i think il put on my big boy pants and learn how to CAD besides simple objects in tinkercad,
what free CAD should i use in the big 2026?
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>>2987552
Since you like closed source so much, either OnShape or Fusion.
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>>2987553
lets face it, the markets changed, 95% of people who 3d print just want a printer that works and will never tinker with them or compile there own firmware
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I need somebody smarter than me to help me figure this shit out.

Questions as followed:
>Can Nozzle 1 print from AMS Olympic and Titanic? Assuming Nozzle 2 is not in use?
>Can Nozzle 1 draw from slots 1-2-3-4 whilst Nozzle 2 draws from 5-6-7-8
>Can Nozzles switch AMSs mid-print, assuming the AMS isn't already occupied by the other nozzle?
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>>2987565
Well it wouldn't really be possible with locked-down bambu hardware, at least not easy. You'd need to get really hacky by having a microcontroller in between each AMS and the printer, in order to spoof the printer into thinking it has 8 rolls on each filament path for 16 virtual "filaments" total. It would have to intercept the signals to and from each AMS, converting them between formats. That's a solvabe problem, but I can't speak to its reliability. Then you'd need a way of switching the filaments about, the first idea that comes to mind is a pair of side-by-side PTFE tubes (~150mm long) that are fixed at one end and are mounted on a spindle on the other end. The spindle would be able to rotate by 180 degrees to line up the tubes to a pair of fixed holes. Because both filaments need to be out of the switching junction at the same time, unless the printer can do two filament swaps at the same time, you'd have to cut one filament in the buffer and feed its replacement in from behind it like the InfinityFlow S1 does. You'd need to add a purge after this since the printer doesn't know it's just swapped filaments, it would need to be done in the g-code somehow.

I'd rather spend my time doing a quarter of that bullshit on a printer with open firmware instead.
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>>2987565
RTFM
https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/general/manual/filament-track-switch

>>2987569
holy shit dude, way to make things more complicated in life
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>>2987574
Oh, they already made one, I didn't see that mentioned in the announcement. What's the perceived use-case? Being too lazy to change which AMS you put your filament in? I guess partway through a multi-colour print your main two colours could change enough times that it would be worth it. But I was under the impression people wouldn't be using that bowden nozzle to reduce purge waste over conventional swapping, that the quality and speed drop from a bowden extruder wouldn't be worth the trade-off.
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>>2987574
That's referring to using a single AMS and having it feed into each nozzle.
Basically they're saying
>If you're using one AMS, you can use it to feed to both nozzles but only one at a time.
The wiki itself does later go on to imply it's possible, to have each nozzle draw from each AMS, with the limitation of a single output for each AMS, but doesn't state directly that the AMS being drawn from mid-print directly. So, it sounds like it should be fine.

>>2987575
I kinda just want to know the limits and considering the value of it really.
I already have a P2S and AMS, I'm on the fence about getting an X2D and just want to know what I can do with it.

I'm sort of caught between wanting a multi-nozzle or multi-toolhead printer and not being too impressed by all the limitations.
Obviously there's the U1 in all this. But I'm not all that excited by being limited to just PLA and PETG.
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When you print something is data always saved?
I.E, can whatever you print be tracked back to you somehow?
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>>2987579
It's stored in your printer's cache as a series of instructions.
If somebody took your printer and checked the cache, they could see what you've printed that way.
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>>2987580
I see, thanks
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>>2987579
Let's take the following hypothetical.
>Say you want to murder someone with a fully 3D printed gun.
>Say, there's CSI level of scrutiny on the murder because, instead of yet another dead nigger, you produce a deceased loving father and patriot who incidentally ran some powerful corporation that profit off human misery and was also a immorally rich person himself.
>Say you're so unlucky the pigs managed to connect you to the event because of the capillary surveillance capitalism we unfortunately live under.
Then to cover your ass you need to get rid of whatever filament you used and whatever it interacted with must be cleaned thoroughly because, in principle, it's possible to correlate a polymer to a particular production run due to minor inconsistencies in the making of a batch during the compounding process.
Then, from a /g/ standpoint, all the precautions apply for the digital aspect of the ghost gun making process.
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>>2987086
>he
(aka me)
My posts are actually off topic. I posted here since this is the only thread where I expected to find CAD experts, but I already resolved my CAD issues.
>Are you ordering sintered metal printing or something?
>If you're prototyping, is a mold on a print adequate?
I've already prototyped my general idea using manually cut plastic sheets and profiles, self-tapping screws and random junk, now I'm going straight to sheet metal.
Turns out the path from idea to fabrication is more thorny than I anticipated. It's fun that a local metalworking shop owner gives me a business card after a firm handshake and then takes 10 days to respond, while online fabricators react faster than I request a quote.
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>>2987578
The U1 is hardly limited to just those filaments. Even ignoring TPU, you can definitely print higher temperature filaments with any of the available lids (1st or 3rd party), and even without a heated chamber you should be able to print engineering materials without warping so long as they’re fibre reinforced. Adding an aftermarket chamber heater is also an option.

>>2987579
If it’s a network connected printer with open source firmware, especially Klipper, it should be pretty easy to clear any caches, or even prevent it from tracking that information in the first place.

Thankfully our 3D printers aren’t making little invisible steganographic dot patterns to track your prints back to the exact printer that made them. I say that, but enough forensics money could likely trace a 3D print back to a common or unique print profile. Maybe all K1C printers with the default profile have some characteristic features, or maybe the features are unique enough from a custom profile or printer that you can tell that two otherwise unrelated prints were made with the same printer. More likely is the capability to track a print back to a filament manufacturer, possibly even batch of filament.

>>2987583
Take the nozzle out and dissolve it in acid, or at least boil it in lye or to break down the remnant plastic inside it. Use a gas torch if it isn’t heat treated I guess. Same goes for remnants of filament.
And do all of that months before they even have reason to look for you, enough time that the liquid has been rinsed many times from your plumbing.

>>2987585
Those metal shops that do prototyping really need to pivot and get fast quote returns to stop the big remote shops stealing their business. Instant quotes figured out by software are probably too much to ask unless there’s an open implementation out there, but at least get back in 3 days.
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>>2986668
Anon what cart is that? Looks nice
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What is my printers problem?
I'm trying to figure out the ringing problem I have on my printer. Been doing some resonance testing, I've been all day at this, I took off everything, re tightened all bolts and my X axis is still shitting it , especially at the 5hz range.
I have the printer sitting on the laminate floor, I did have it on a flat chunk of tabletop wood that was on the floor too but doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
What am I missing here?
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>>2987586
>enough time that the liquid has been rinsed many times from your plumbing.
Whenever I feel like a paranoid loner, I come to 4chan and suddenly I don't feel all too paranoid anymore.
Place feels like home.

>be radicalized Anon McVeighczynski
>diy a gun for high profile political assassination
>actually want to get away with it
>surprise.stl but feds get you anyway
>they found traces of a chemical in your plumbing that might have been used to dissolve a part of machinery that might have been used in diy-ing a gun
>waterproof evidence
>should've listened to /k/
>anon gets suicided
>case closed
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>>2984660
Been out of the loop for like 2-4 years: Has there been any noteworthy changes, improvements or innovationt in 3d print resin? I mean the resin itself not the printers.
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>>2987623
Just some anecdote, your results may vary. Apply brain before doing anything stupid.
I had some issues with ringing too. Input shaping and tightening the belts didn't do shit. Read online that I don't have to grease my rails, because my version of printer has brass bushings. That's why I never did it. (spoiler, turns out that it is bronze that has this behaviour. No idea where I've read the shit about brass)
One day I was printing a cylindrical shape and figured out that the ringing only ever happened when the the printer head was changing its direction from left to right and vice versa. Back and forth was no problem and the continuation of the movement along the x-axis wasn't a problem either. The x-axis made this problem only when accelerating after a stop. Because to change directions you have to stop for a very brief moment. You need a higher force to start shit moving, compared to just continue or accelerate it. Because you have to overcome the friction of the 2 surfaces (no idea what this effect is called in english). It seemed that my pid-controller was just overshooting in order to overcome the friction. So I greased my x-axis. And it did help, but not completely. Looked online and some youtuber with the same printer model had a similar problem. He disassembled his head and found that the springs that pushed his 2 bushings against the rail where too stiff. So he only installed one spring and left the other bushing without it. I wanted to have a more symmetrical load, so I used 2 weaker springs instead. (Disassembled a ball pen and cut its spring in half, presto - 2 weaker springs) And that shit did the trick. Of course I had to recalibrate my printer after its parameters had changed. And that's why I keep my rails greasy. Not too much, just a thin film.
Sorry for the long TED-talk. I didn't want to just give my solution, but the how and why it is working in my case.
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>Wife wanted some fidget toys to send her godkids for easter
>Include an extra skull fidget because their father did me a favor

>Dude messages is me asking how much he has to pay to get one in red and black for his girlfriend
I wish I could just do this stuff instead of showing up at a stinky furniture store with bed bugs (don't trust the as-is section, btw).
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>>2987650
Yeah. I wish I could just fix random shit all day instead of rotting in the office.
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>>2987650
Something tells me the job security of making plastic junk like fidget toys you didn’t even design isn’t the best. Unless you can create or buy exclusive rights to a non-trend-based printed product, and are large enough to enforce those rights, printing as a business seems far too volatile.

>>2987651
Having a quality 3D scanner and a really smooth workflow to clone broken/missing parts could be a job unto itself. The less time you have to spend making precision measurements or fiddling about in CAD the more viable it is.
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>>2987652
That's kind of the point.
The good old "man loves doing X, but there is little to no job security there, so he keeps being miserable doing something else".
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>>2987652
I mean, cheap plastic shit obviously has some sort of market. It kinda seems like 3d printing is revitalizing buying actual toys for kids.
I know you're right about the parts thing, though. When it did come time to print something for myself, it was.
>Anime statue
>A replacement thumbstick cap for my controller.
>>2987656
It just sucks because everything has to be so global now, you know? I had to stand around my manager with two other guys last week, because some psycho was threatening to drive his pickup truck through the store over a dispute with return policy. He's not accountable to any of us. He probably went back to his own, shitty little hole, lit a fire in his back yard, and laughed about it with the other window lickers like him. He wouldn't dream about talking to a little old lady from his neighborhood that way, but our little old lady was fair game.

The closest thing I feel to community is just amazing my wife's small town circle with pla thingamabobs. Between the customers and the corporation, a lot of my life just revolves around people that don't answer to anyone and expect you to do anything they ask with a smile on your face.
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>>2987651
getting a gaming laptop that doesn't look like a gaming laptop and a kvm has made my office days tolerable.
I get most of my shit done in an hour or two split into 15 minutes of actual work throughout the day, the rest of the time I'm handling my own shit on my laptop.
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>>2987659
My work is less of a "do specific things and you're done" and more of a "over the course of the day you're receiving emails that you need to handle", so I can't consolidate it into an hour or two of locked in productivity.

The work itself isn't even that bad. Underpaid, yes, but it pays bills without killing me.
I just don't enjoy it since it doesn't really challenge me as a problem solver.
Every man wants to be useful, and this shit makes me constantly feel like I'm wasting my time/skills/potential.

Thanks for the therapy session.
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>>2987614
ikea bror cart, seems to be a common recommendation, I managed to buy it for 40 CAD on FB marketplace
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should i just get this now or do you think the price will go down in june
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I know this general is less about resin printing, but I got a medium-use anycubic mono 4k maybe 5 years ago and i've had 5 unsuccessful prints in a row where it sticks to the bed and to the FEP. Is my printer cooked?

I don't think it's calibration, it might be lift speed but i adjusted it to be a bit slower, and the biggest culprit is it might be too cold/wet out but it's inside a grow tent with a mini heater... (maybe it's that idk)
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>>2987679
Prices will probably go down in Junes, and they'll announce an AMS with two outputs.
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>>2987637
At least you managed to get through it and actually figure out what the problem was. It isn't always that obvious I suppose and fair play to getting it sorted, shit takes forever before it just clicks.
I actually did manage to get the X axis a bit better by loosening and tightening the roller screws a bit and retightening, just saw someone somewhere do it on youtube and it worked in my case.
But now I have an issue with the Y axis in that it reaches the spike at 25hz which really limits the acceleration but I've done the same thing and nothing. Can't find anyone having the same issues online either.
I was considering getting one of those EVA vibration pads and a paving stone and see if that would reduce anything. I assume not much but I guess it's one of the cheaper fixes, though I think I saw people online replace the pulley motors because they were quite noisy so maybe there's that? but still don't see many people complain about the issue I'm having so I think it's just a me thing
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>>2987579
If the libs get their way in New York and California, yes
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>>2987696
Libs are just useful idiots. It's the corpos that want to enforce copyright and limit repair.
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>>2987706
and "both" parties that want limited freedom for people to do whatever they want within the privacy of their homes, the main difference being under the auspices that is done.
If I want to print cucumber washers then nobody should be able to stop me.
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>>2987708
Precisely.
It's not about guns. "Ghost guns" are just another "think of the children" thing that they use to take away your freedom bit by bit.
What you're doing in the privacy of your home is none of the government's business as long as you're not breaking the law.
The right to build "privately made firearms" is protected under the Second.
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>>2987708
>limited freedom for people to do whatever they want within the privacy of their homes
That's always been true.
If there's a second person in your home, there's potential for crime against or between those people and very, very good reasons for governments to intrude.
If you live alone, and your cucumber washer suggests that you do, then I grant you that there's less basis for intrusion.
Grow houses, meth labs, large orders of fertiliser...there are possible reasons but they probably don't apply to you and I.

>cucumber washers
I printed one of those, it was ticklish but not at all erotic. Made me want to urinate.
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>>2987712
>potential for crime
You're not going through the trouble of 3D printing a gun to shoot your wife. You whack her with a frying pan like a normal person.
It's the same logic as "areas that are not monitored can be used by criminals so we need absolute surveillance".

Even if the "potential for crime" was a good enough reason to intrude, 3D printed firearms aren't a big enough problem to warrant that.
The "ghost gun" crime statistics aren't that bad to begin with, and most of these have nothing to do with 3D printing. 3D printed firearms are being lumped in with pipe shotguns and whatnot.
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>>2987711
>What you're doing in the privacy of your home is none of the government's business
totally agree
>as long as you're not breaking the law
Careful that they don't push you down that slippery slope. Because they will just make those laws.
I don't care what people do as long as they are not harming others. And I just want to be left alone and I don't want to harm others in return. That seems fair.
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>>2987711
>as long as you're not breaking the law.
This is precisely what we're trying to keep from happening, where the law is encroaching on what you do in your house.
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>>2987716
>3D printed firearms aren't a big enough problem to warrant that
Whether or not it is a big enough problem is literally a political decision that the government would make on behalf of the voters but it is also not at all the point.

>but muh ghostgun laws
You missed the point entirely.

Many such /pol/tard cases.


>3D printed firearms are being lumped in with pipe shotguns and whatnot.
And they should be, it's a form of home manufacture, just as much as a CNC machine or ordering explosion proof tubing and tungsten-carbide tipped hacksaws to your home.

Pipe shotguns are yesterday's news; 3D printed furniture and some internals, around aluminium parts cut with modified dremels on 3D printed jigs, ECD barrels, and entirely machined 50BMG cartridges.....filled with a 3d printed template to new machined brass, these things are the future and most of what you need to know has a few hundred influences vying to teach you in exchange for your eyeballs and cookies.

If ATF is still worrying about pipe shotguns then they deserve to be fired.
Whether their job should include this is a political discussion which belongs on /pol/, which is
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>>2987723
While I go to pol, you should head to the bedroom. Your wife's boyfriend is waiting.
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>>2987716
>3D printed firearms are being lumped in with pipe shotguns and whatnot.
Most "ghost guns" are regular firearms that have been stolen and had their serial numbers filed off.
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>>2987726
>have been stolen and had their serial numbers filed off.
By repeat offenders that judges keep letting roam free. Ergo, Joe Smith must have his right trampled in order to fix the situation.
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>check out that new Prusa drybox
>it's almost fucking 50 euro for a box, no active heater or anything
what the fuck
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>>2987732
But think of the feelings of said offenders.
They're merely victims of the system, often misunderstood and marginalized.
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>>2987734
That's just how they price things.
I keep hearing good thing about their printers but every time I'm half-tempted to go look at their prices, I have the "They want HOW MUCH for a bed slinger?" reaction.
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>>2987734
I lowkey consider Prusa as a b2b kind of manufacturer, where everything has double the price tag just because companies can afford it.
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My BIGGEST print ever is going well I think.
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>>2987723
People should be required to manufacture firearms at home if they are allowed to vote.
By law, every group of people traveling together should have at least one gun amongst the group (3D printed or otherwise) so that we can finally defund the police like you people wanted.
Calling for any form of gun control should be treated as sedition, resulting in a punishment ranging from lifetime deportation, to public hanging depending on the severity of the case.
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>>2987737
Why lowkey? Their biggest customers are drone manufacturers now. I'll give it to Prusa to pretend it's still about the community, but the community simply can't compete with defence contracts.
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>>2987505
it would be nice if the people who talk about bambu labs like its the surveillance arm of the CCP assembling a profile to personally enslave you had something real to base their grave concerns on
wheres that guy who said they all have microphones collecting ambient audio and transmitting it to the PLA
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>>2987765
It's less about surveillance (though proprietary systems definitely make it easier for them to watch your every move) and more about corpos being corpos.

Look, I love my A1 Mini. It was the printer that got me into the hobby. It is still pretty much the most reliable machine I own, partially because with it being proprietary I have no incentive to monkey with it.

It's just the fact that it can be controlled remotely by the manufacturer that trips me up.
Bambu can decide to decrease the reliability for machines that have over N hours, hoping that they will frustrate you into buying a new one. A layer shift here, a random underextrusion there. Since the firmware is proprietary, you would never know if your aging printer is acting up due to normal wear or it's the firmware.

Sure, I am a bit of a paranoid schizo, but don't tell me that this would be unheard of.
Apple, for example, was in hot water over slowing down older iPhones without your knowledge. Sure, they backpedaled, came up with the whole "extending the life of a worn battery" story, but I don't doubt for a second that making people think "my old phone is really slow, I need to get a new one" wasn't a part of the plan.
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>>2987768
> I am a bit of a paranoid schizo
You're not schizo, this is literally the world we live in where people are squeezed for every penny they have. 3D printing is one way I fight back against it because I can create and make my own shit. I designed and printed some stacking drawers last week that, had I tried to buy something similar, would have cost 10x as much. 3D printers are a threat, just not in the way the media tells us.
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>>2987765
>>2987768
imagine corporations secretly listening to everything
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>>2987634
>>2987680
youd be better off asking the toy people>>97853698
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>>2987786
woops
>>>/tg/97853698
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>>2987634
short answer no. long answer also no.
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>>2987809
>no, but there's been a lot of marketing
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>>2987809
>>2987811
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>check out Prusa site
>INDX is on preorder
>900€ for 8 nozzles
>670€ for 4 nozzles
>only for the Core One+
>print volume is only 250x220x270
>1050€ price tag for the kit
>1720€ for a 4 nozzle setup
What.
How does this make any sense when Bambu offers a dual nozzle with a 350x320x325 plate with AMS for 1950€? Hell, if you can manage the smaller build volume the X2D with AMS is 850€. That's literally half the price and you still have 5 spools on tap.
>but muh poop waste
Genuinely curious how much PLA one has to print to have any return on investment with the INDX. I can't find proper figures for Bambu's inefficieny with filament.
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>>2987832
bambubros can't stop winning
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>>2987832
>poop waste doesn't matter
Not only is it wasteful, filament changes balloon the print time.
Maybe it matters for print farms? I'm sure someone here owns one and can confirm or deny.
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>>2987832
Don’t forget the Core One+ lacking a heated chamber, and I’d compare both to the U1. I expect in a few years we’ll see a knockoff INDX, but I might shell out for the Core One INDX anyhow. The moment they release a printer without the toolhead I’ll be never using, I’ll buy one.

Dual nozzle printers are a compromise I didn’t expect to see becoming this mainstream. If your concern is large amounts of purging required between incompatible materials, then dual-nozzle printers are mostly fine if you’re running just two materials. Which for most engineering cases you probably are, but I can definitely see people printing support+solid+flexible all at once. Are there flexibles that can be printed alongside polycarbonate or nylon? Heat-creep seems like a pitfall either way.
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>>2987809
When did the ABS-like resin become a thing?
That would be about it.
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>>2987864
There’s always been engineering resins, I assumed they picked an appropriate resin and gave it a more marketable name. With that the price came down through economies of scale.
If anything it’s DLP printers and self-heating resin vats that are the most recent innovations.
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Any theories as to how I get this off?
Nephew's printer has PLA (burnt?) stuck very firmly to the sheet. Can't get it off.
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>>2987960
Print a one or two layer sheet of PLA on it, then peel it off.
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>>2986963
is me
>>2986916
>>2986798
>>2986778
I figured it out and I'm actually retarded. The z offset was too high. lol
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>>2987972
there's still something fucky with that. I'd b tearing down the extruder to make sure everything's kosher.
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>>2987974
It's just the raft that got fucked up
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Currently printing the ULTIMO case and I'm too stubborn to pay out for acrylic panes (I have translucent PLA so why not).

As my print bed is relatively small I'd need to configure them like so:
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Any way to tweak the interface between these so they won't break inwards? I was thinking of making a circular piece which would mount a + (see picrel)
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>>2988024
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>>2988024
>Any way to tweak the interface between these so they won't break inwards? I was thinking of making a circular piece which would mount a + (see picrel)
I think you can just get the STL for that central screw and use it pretty directly.
I'm guessing it has a thread on it so that a quarter turn applies force that puts the panels into tension that keeps them pushed a little outwards.
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>select no ai filter on printables.
>It still shows me jeet ai generated unprintable garbage.
What causes this?
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>>2988053
jeets not tagging their work as AI.
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>>2988053
>What causes this?
They (printables.com) have no way to know automatically that it's slop, it takes someone or the community looking at it and an intern couldn't reliably tell either and they surely don't have much of a staff to do actual moderation.

This is a subset of dead internet theory, the amount of scammy AI content will increase and intrude on areas that were previously off-limits to it as the jeets/pakis look for every last niche they can try to make a western buck off.
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>>2988053
At this point I just want a filter that marks "Has makes" to determine something actually works and has third party input.
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>>2988066
>At this point I just want a filter that marks "Has makes" to determine something actually works and has third party input.
How would you know that the input is genuinely from a third party?

If there was such a filter, the slop posters would just use bot accounts to post chatgtp review text and slopped up "makes" and you'd be back to square one.
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>>2988080
So you're saying that we should nuke India?
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>>2988083
can I push the button?
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>>2988061
as an aside the number of "instructions were clear and really helped me understand" tier bot comments on youtube shorts has mushroomed.

>>2988080
don't be a negative nelly, it's a good idea for now.

have some snoop that came across my dashboard I printed for my kids teacher who loves peanuts.
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>>2988114
>don't be a negative nelly, it's a good idea for now.
For *right* now but the effectiveness will last only until they defeat the captcha (including simple human captcha -solving cubicle farms, or they make a phone game where you solve a captcha to get in-game currency)
Your comment on youtube prophesies why this is only bailing water and will be defeated in short order.

>>2988083
>So you're saying that we should nuke India?
You can nuke poor people but it won't cure poverty by doing so.

There are perhaps three fundamental forces that brought about this situation.
>the democratic/egalitarian nature of technology
>extreme wealth inequality - both between citizens of countries and between countries themselves
>the financial and informational distance between countries is vastly smaller than the physical distance between them

The answer, as it always is to these sorts of problems, is to make every country as good a place as everywhere else.
Some portion of the western "humanist morality" comes from our prosperity, we can literally afford to be nice and even generous to people we'll never meet and it doesn't cost us anything we need.
Increase prosperity elsewhere and this attitude will spread.

Increase prosperity inside countries and they'll have a reason to crack down on such things in their own country because whatever is affecting us is affecting them even more. And they can't just point the scammers outwards because that will piss us off and their prosperity probably comes from us and certainly won't survive making enemies of us.

If the baseline quality of life in every country is decent and we're not ridiculously, absurdly wealthier than them, they don't get the equivalent of a lottery win by scamming our grandmothers for their pension, scamming us would become a full time job that pays regular salary and they'll just do a regular job that pays a regular salary instead.
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>>2988165
Interesting and well elaborated take, you got there.
But I‘ll prefer the nuklear option.
Daddy needs a new parking lot.
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>>2988165
>it doesn't cost us anything we need.
Fuck that dude, it absolutely costs me things I need. I NEED to be able to support a large family and I can't do that if we keep helping other people.
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>>2988187
>I NEED to be able to support a large family
t. poor

Rich people don't need to play a numbers game to ensure survival of their genetic lineage.
Anyway, nice walmart chick, what's the lora?
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>>2988188
really poor people seem to have no problem with popping out a lot of kids though.
It's the middle class that is struggling because they have the aspiration of giving their kids good opportunities and a head start.
It seems that the poor and stupid way is the way to evolutionary success. At least in the short term.
Reject sophistication embrace idiocracy
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>>2988192
>is the way to evolutionary success.
only through having their existence subsidized.
Let's get back on topic, quickly whipped up this mount to get the controller off the desk. Uses a single command strip split lengthwise and can be removed without any damage to the wall.
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>>2988192
>really poor people seem to have no problem with popping out a lot of kids though.
That's why they're poor and it's also because they're poor.
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>>2988192
>Reject sophistication embrace idiocracy
I'm quite surprised that everyone in idiocracy is a relatively healthy weight.
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>>2988201
Food shortage from the crops failing
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>>2987723
You're obsessed with /pol/, it's all you talk about. Stop shitting up /diy/ discussions with your obsession
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>>2988114
what did you print that with?
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>>2988274
bambu x1c one color at a time, the "no AMS" section of the bambulabs projects is generally pretty cool. a lot more superglue than I'd have preferred, I like snap fit way better
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>>2988295
It's definitely the way to go if you can. I know a small-scale print farm owner who went out of his way to pay some indian 3d modeller to refactor his models to be printable in separate chunks.
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>>2988295
>>2988296
um saars, can you show an example of this work?
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Today I used the nozzle of my prusa mini as a soldering iron. Worked great.
That is all.
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>>2988449
That's amazing. Yesterday I was going to use a soldering iron to fix a small imperfection on a print from my Prusa Mini but realized it was my slicing choices that caused the error so I just reprinted and it turned out great.
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Are there any patreon dudes who just make crazy elaborate STLs for things like this?
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What's the deal with all the different build plates these days.
Darkmoon, Biqu, random AliExpress ones, what difference does it make?
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have you guys experienced issues with tuning filaments based on color? i have two different sunlu PLAs and ive got the matte black dialed in perfectly, but the ceramic white prints like absolute ass and strings a lot. it could be the batches being different, but im more inclined to believe its the coloring agents changing how they print.
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>>2988483
CNC Kitchen did some testing and found that colors affect the physical strength significantly.
Makes sense why you'd need to dial different colors in.
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>>2988483
>strings a lot
I have this problem with lots of filaments, especially petg.
I've never really been sure how to deal with it except by printing one part at a time to minimise it to the entry points.
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>>2988483
Thoroughly dry all filament, even new filament if it's hygroscopic, to remove that possibility.

>>2988493
It's a slight impact, I suspect it varies by batch as significantly as by colour.
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>>2988483
I mean I main 3dhojor and the white just WILL NOT STICK TO THE FUCKING PLATE. 1 layer in any other PLA and it's perfect.

also my first PETG was a sunlu double pack, the white was perfect and the black was mac n cheese stringy as fuck.

It's hard to say it's the color though because I've had other bad rolls in the same color and brand as a good one. my first roll of sparkle pla was fucking amazing, best prints ever and the reorder was such garbage and made terrible prints, lots of snapped filament IIRC. I'm pretty sure the bad hojor white I just finished isn't my first white but maybe it was normal white and not matte this time.
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>>2988469
time to learn blender
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>>2988483
people report issues with white filaments a lot
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>>2988564
I've gone through like 20kg of cheap white PLA from Kingroon. Incredibly consistent.
I guess it varies from manufacturer to manufacturer.
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I found a thing while cleaning the filament storage.
I'll use for one thing since purchasing it half a decade ago, and into the box it'll go back in.
I wonder if it'll really have the touted strength or if it was all a meme.
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>>2988612
It's unimpressive, though I am used to nylons and polycarbs.
At least it is translucent, which is what I needed to fix this thing.
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>>2988482
I run a bunch of the biqu cryogrip buildplates on bone stock printer settings. Have some large prints I dont want lifting from the bed and some of the other pei sheets basically have a film that bubbles over time. Going from textured build plates to smooth plates is a pretty big jump in keeping prints on the plate.
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>>2988482
Selling stuff to retarded consumers.
What advantage besides power savings is there in not running a bed at 60C for PLA?
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I've been having some trouble with my PLA pealing off the bed on the corners mid print.

Could this be because my garage is 93 degrees F (34C)?

I don't think it was happening as much in the winter when it was colder
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>>2988668
>Could this be because my garage is 93 degrees F (34C)?
>I don't think it was happening as much in the winter when it was colder
I'd think a warmer room would improve adhesion.
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>>2988668
Clean your buildplate with rubbing alcohol
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>>2988668
Cleaning would also be my first suggestion. And if >>2988673 doesn’t help, use some soap and scrub it with a sponge. That’s what I usually do. IPA before every print. And if PLA starts to peel off, I know that it’s time to deep clean it.
Or use some bigger mouse ears or a larger rim, if the surface to print relation isn’t advantageous.
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>>2988675
I hate that brims give a elephants foot look unless you spend a lot of time post processing and carving off the excess filament.
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>>2988687
Then have your prints peel. Simple as.
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>>2988687
Slant 3D has a good video about designing models for better bed adhesion.
Also try mouse ears in critical places (sharp corners and such).
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>>2988668
Imagine having trouble with pla. lmao.
Besides cleaning your bed, what temps are you running? Read the sticky, post pictures of your problem, particularly the initial purge lines. What filament is it? Is it straight pla or some modified bullshit?
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I did a cold pull on a clogged nozzle on a Prusa XL and the schmutz I pulled out like like dark amber translucent flakes. Does this sound like dust from the filament or PTFE shavings from the Bowden tube?
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>>2988700
>I did a cold pull on a clogged nozzle
What is a cold pull?
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almost learned the hard way to keep the printer turned off when working with the hotend. i had the registration pin for the hotend cover installed backwards in my sv08 after a teardown to unclog it and figured id just unscrew the bolt and flip it around, but i accidentally shorted the bolthead to something with a lot of power going through it on the mcu board and it sparked up and caused the printer to reboot. it looks like i didnt kill anything after power cycling it, but fuck that scared me. i definitely am not in the mood to spend $80 on a new one.
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this or the bambulab cool plate? what im wondering is how the X2d deals with 3rd party plates, the x2d scans what type of bed you have
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When is it gonna warm up so I can resin and FDM print without a heater? N Mi is so chilly, we even have a freeze warning for May 1st and 2nd I think.
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>>2988707
I have the biqu and it works pretty good, well worth it but can't say whether it's better than the bambu. They come with little stickers for the scanner.
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>>2988704
It's the pull that is done when it's cold
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Hot tighten your shit anons
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>>2988715
what am I looking at?
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>>2988717
PLA found its way out because my heater block wasn't screwed on tight enough onto a heat break.
It was tight when I assembled it, but I neglected tightening it when hot to prevent thermal expansion from fucking me over.

Luckily it's just a handful of parts that cost next to nothing. It would suck if it happened with a high performance hotend.
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>>2988715
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>>2988724
that is one weirdo rare crocodile, is it yours ?
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>>2988724
that is impressive, no homo
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>>2988707
x1c has no problem with plates once I turned off the stupid plate detection shit that had PETG on the wrong plate and wouldn't let me print it.



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