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>>29146492/3
>>29146503/3
>>2914631>>2914614I liked these a lot, box them please
"I can be swole if I want!"
>>2914655long fingers
>>2914453>>2914234boxes pls?
>>2914648Requesting this (https://files.catbox.moe/9ljkr8.png) with Scarle Yonaguni.
>>2914641that's just noise because I'm wrangling a eps model
>>2914675Still looks nice. Like some wheater event is actually going on in the pic.
Aside of Civitai there are any other places where you can share models and images that is more letinent with cunny?I don't want to post loli porn, not even loli lewds, not even loli on swimsuits. But when you can't even show navels because its considered too skimpy or sit characters on the floor because it reads too suggestive or characters with huge knockers because they are wearing school uniforms (pic related), thats some retarded standard for "minors" policy.How is shakker?
>>2914648requesting a version of >>2912857 with no pubes
Thread theme. Single article of clothing.Just shoes, great. Only wearing gloves, or a hat, or bikini bottoms, or a one piece swimsuit. That sort of thing.
>>2914694goatbox?
>>2914719
>>2914719Nice. So many ideas, naked apron, ripped jeans, nightgown, towel,...>>2914721kek
>>2914719sounds fun
>>2914721are her titties that big
>>2914673Love casual toplessness
>>2914720https://files.catbox.moe/9550ln.png>>2914719
>>2914727tybb <3
>>2914719>Thread theme. Single article of clothing.Okay. And hey, I got another place in here, >>2914650 that's nice.
>>2914719>Thread theme. Single article of clothing.Okay, now for real. Here's a shy kitty wearing just a bow.
flat hag posting time. Also compatible with >>2914719
>>2914739Nice style. box?
>>2914740Thanks!https://files.catbox.moe/1tayc1.png
Made a gen to give Bulma a more pronounced cameltoe than what's in the original gen made by TesiAI.https://www.deviantart.com/tesiai/art/Thick-Blushing-Bulma-1112887070
>>2914650>Back in the highlightsNice
>>2914648Requesting more images of almost, but not quite, nudity. Winner is the one that gets the closest without actually crossing the line.
>>2914648Requesting Orieve (Romancing SaGa) belly dancing topless.
What are the rules for 2girl-ing?
>>2914753just no lesbian action>>2914750>>2914719These are good request, will start baking
>>2914754Thanks, chief
>>2914753I constantly post 2girls and never had any issues.I guess as long as you dont put them blatantly touching each other is fine.Even hugging each other and symmetrical docking is fine as long as it clearly interacting with the "viewer" and not with each other.I once even put a girl spreading other girl pussy offering it to the viewer and nothing happening
>>2914759implication and context matter
>>2914759Got it, thanks for clarifying
>>2914648Requesting Vocaloid IA in the Minecraft's Far Lands. Leaving to you what type of Far Lands. Pic related posted as a example.
>she's being hunted by Gantz aliensDo you let her in?
>>2914787>jerk off>cum on the glass>close the bind>go to bed
>>2914719Do the headband and bell disqualify her?
>>2914787that depents, is she a fairy?
>>2914788Based.Reika the tiddy fairy a shit.She didn't deserve Kurono.
>>2914792No.
nya
cleaning up and deleting a bunch of shit, figured i'll leave these here since i'm getting rid of themit's a bunch of old nai vocaloid gens all t2i (some vibe transfer), so no fixes and a lot of broken garbage, many were already posted, both /e/ and /h/ contenthttps://litter.catbox.moe/mwg7rg.ziphttps://litter.catbox.moe/hzc4a6.zip
>>2914850>metric TON of IA>other vocaloid stuff and lots of it>lol at the giantess IA and minecraft Lily>quite a lot of it already good/great or A E S T H E T I C>very, very A E S T H E T I COh NICE! Thanks for sharing all of this instead of throwing it awa->info.txtN-No... Quite sad to hear it. Hope things go well in at your side and, should you wish for it, one day see you again around /here/ Thanks for all of the GREAT stuff.
>>2914851>info.txtWhat's there? I can't download rn and I am very curious.
>>2914852>it's unlikely that i'll be doing or posting any /h/ or /e/ in the near future (or longer) so if you want any of these fixed you'll have to ask someone else or fix them yourselfIt this line only but it hits HARD
Latest in the modern goddesses series. The theme this time is embarrassing/compromising situations. Most of them have references to each goddesses' respective myths. As always, feedback and suggestions are appreciated.
>>2914893Really hot, can I get a box for the style? Breast shape is really nice
>>2914893
>>2914779 catbox?
>>2914911
>>2914909https://litter.catbox.moe/hmh2kn.png
>>2914906https://files.catbox.moe/36005a.png>>2914908Problem?
>>2914927Is this a character from a series?
>>2914938It's someone's OC:https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=riley_fairfeather+&z=5
Last one, sorry for spamming.
>>2914950honk honk
>>2914931catbox?
After hundreds of reattempts to get the proper gen, Bulma is starting to turn into Bra, for some reason.
>>2914972And there's nothing in my prompt that mentions a headband.
>>2914970https://files.catbox.moe/a152nk.pngfirst time someone asked me for it lol
>>2914979thanks
>>29146496 is a personal best but it feels like this general has slowed down, wasnt revitalized by illustrious like /hdg/ was
>>2914981The crowd is the same for most flavors of /sdg/. /hdg/ is also significantly slower. The novelty's wearing off.
>>2914983yeah it's been elevated shitposting and text general in /hdg/ for several threads now
>>2914985It's mostly back to normal after the meltdown over noob 1.0
>>2914984Whoa! Who is that girl?
>>2914986ive done some testing w/ and w/o the 1.0 text encoder. the 0.5 TE is a small but consistent quality bump, 1.0 TE improved comprehension on my tentacle gens. 1.0 is a base checkpoint and one should find or make a mix or aesthetic tune that best suits their tastes
>>2914987That's 1girl, goth teen
>>2914983>The novelty's wearing offPretty much. I only gen weird shit now that nobody else likes, or it's not even allowed.
>>2914996>or it's not even allowedthat's the reason I stopped posting gens here for the most part, any breast size below "large breasts" is risking a ban and I just can't be bothered to deal with retarded mods and jannies anymore
>>2914984Requesting topless edit.
>>2914998I was thinking of monstergirls but yeah, that too I guess
A relaxed kitty.
>>2914998>>2914996That sounds more like a "You" problem.
>>2915002no doubtthat doesn't make it any less of a problem tho, or easier to solve
>>2914998>any breast size below "large breasts" is risking a banI highly desagree, I've seen people repeating this in these threads lately over and over again, but flat chests alone will not get you banned.We get flaties every thread no issue.Now, if you go too blatant with loli stuff you may risk a ban, but otherwise its pretty safe.Obviously if you put an excesively smooth pussy with the camera closing up or LO artists you will get a ban,One could argue even "innie pussy" is a relatively common here and they dont get deleted.Or may be you were unlucky and came across some trigger happy jannie
>>2914750
>>2915001The same kitty, but this time using an 80's retro style.I think I'm going to have a lot of fun making some Christmas pics using this art and coloring styles.
>>2915004>easier to solveThe solution is simply not post any more images that you already know will cause trouble, especially if there's some fucked up fetish involved.I have posted pics of girls with modest cup sizes and the mods have never deleted any of them, so the problem seems to be just on your side.
>>2914787based big titty enjoyer. and the movie is pretty good.
>>2914999
>>2914908Try hangout with Dawn more, Hilda. Though her anal acrobatics will put yours to shame.
So...a character needs a bare minimum of 40-50 picture to be doable with illustrious?Anyone managed to get something with even less entries?
>>2915011slightly better version
>>2915014this was with 24 pictures
>>2915016but now that i look at it i shouldnt have slopped & go'd on the first seed
>>2915014You can make a single-image lora if you want. It'll just be very stiff and only make variants of the pose she was in and only very similar styles.
>>2915013damn it! I forgot to specify which Hilda I wanted so it gave me a random girl, but its quite cute so I will post her anyway
>>2915018I know, friend, I myself have done lora with literally one picture.I was talking about getting the character on illustrious with prompt alone
Dear god, it's like the kind of scan you could find during the late 90's internet.
>>2915013>>2915019Ok, this is the good one
>>2915019lol they cute though>>2915023Noice.
>prompt for 5girls>gets 4garbage model, unusable trash
>>2915005It's a mix of retard(s) reporting and and as you said, jannies being trigger happyIt's more than likely there is discordtroons and/or maybe 1-2 people who target specific posters or material they don't like, and call backup or use multiple IPs to report enough to reach a threshold and have a jannie come and see what's going onYou can call me schizo but there are questionable pictures (I don't care either way) that get left up either here or on /hdg/ while stuff that seems fairly safe gets deletedI can't blame people for staying safe with posts, stay safe
>>2915030Sorry the last sentence came out ESL, I'm tired
>>2915030>It's a mix of retard(s) reporting and and as you said, jannies being trigger happyMore like contrarian people using /e/ to upload /h/ material.
>>2915030I once got a 3-day-ban on /e/ for posting an anime-style nagatoro-pic by a "western" artist - about three months after posting it. Nothing ever happens until some autist reports you.
Last retro kitty for now- I really dig this old school style.
>>2915046that's a really nice inasscan I get a box?
It's good that Illustrious understands the concept of "a purple plugsuit". When I tried to gen this in Pony, it just gave me a slightly grayer version of Rei's plugsuit.
>>2915053Buy an ad and get over it.
>>2915053Nice.>>2915054stfu retard.
>>2915055Autist, unpleaseant and unable to read the room I see.
>>2915053The fault lies on your prompt, not on pony.You don't prompt "a purple plugsuit" you prompt:"neon genesis evangelion, bodysuit, purple bodysuit"
>>2915003IA!? In Ze Backrooms?! T-Thanks. More so due to the events in this thread...
>>2915000I just gen monster girls and post them wherever, only got hit with something once in /h/ for it being "furry" but other then that it's whatever. Unless you mean monsters that are girls instead of girls that are monsters.
>>2915062What events?
>>2915064Saya-anon is taking time away from /e/ and /h/ and posting:>>2914850Hope for things to go well on his side.
>>2914850>>2915065Oh I see now, well, that's unfortunate, even more given that we are getting new good models at the momentI wish him good luck on whatever he intend to do now
> leave for a few days> rampant loli postingSurprised some of these pics didn't get nuked.
Been attempting to get a proper gen of Namek Saga Bulma without her jacket, but each gen has at least one thing wrong. It's been fun, though, so I'm going to continue creating gens and tweaking my prompts, to make the background have some resemblance to Namek, until I'm completely satisfied.
>>2915066>I wish him good luck on whatever he intend to do nowThis.>>2915064By the way, that's a nice Lize. The sword is of particular note as not only the stance is nice but the blade is quite the complete part. Sure the hilt's angle is a bit off but non-euclidean blades are too a part of the AI's charm.
>>2915088I didn't notice the tip of the sword lol, I was too focused on trying to get the pose rightThis shitmix surely is following my prompts as I want, I'm almost tempted to do schizo tests and recreate all my styles on it but noob vpred is very close and it's looking really promising
>>2915063moth supremacy>>2915053funny, whenever I prompt plugsuits on noob I get heavy asuka bleed, on pony its fine.>>2915045cool style until you see the face, interesting textures and nice details
>>2915095>tempted to do schizo tests and recreate all my styles on it but noob vpred is very close and it's looking really promisingThat does look good tho and good to see her back. Also, lol at that evil pikmin in the back.
>>2915063More monster than girl, or even just larger features. Lamia are technically /d/, with tentacle hair it depends on what the tentacles are doing, goat hooves are also questionable, etc.
>>2915109Yeah like I said I've posted and nobody's really called out on it, I'd say just do it til you get slapped and you know the line. The one I got dinged on in /h/ was more then likely the mod didn't like the satyr, it was a gote girl / gote man together and he called it furry. I've seen lamia's posted there all the time it kinda sucks but it is just up to whatever janny feels like.
>>2915112I like that tuft of hair coming out from under her shorts
>>2914648can you take this and remake it through the ai in a better style?
>>2915063Even centaurs are fine as long as is tasteful centaur ecchi not horse pussy anus closeups
bodybuilding time.
>>2915093nice bush
>>2915119
>>2915125cute but she needs to wash her laundry with less starch
>*CRASH* "HELLO ANON, HAVE YOU MADE ANY FRIENDS TODAY?"
liquid texture study + robotoes
>>2915148the ai changes the pose? can you make her to keep it the same pose along with the way her hair is in the original? also thanks as it looks a bit better than the original sketch
A sleepy kitty.
>>2915127Mugi grew up to be a milfy bad girl.
>>2914855Since I'm fresh out of ideas for now, I'll take requests for any of these characters in any scenario.
>>2914648Requesting South Dakota (Azur Lane) in a sexy topless Indian outfit.
I should remake these loras after cleaning up the watermarks in the dataset, it's criminal and hilarious how clean text come in on noob / illu
>>2915202>inconsistent bodysuit designsaieeeeeeeeeeeee
>>2915205Middle one sure, but the other two seem pretty consistent to me
>>2915205I want them to look different from each other, like they're an edgerunner team.
>>2915207you should make them more different then
>>2915208I know, I wanted to test how much of a difference I can get with "3girls" without using Forge Couple.
Is this /aco/?
>>2915210Have you tried regional prompting with three different prompts?
>>2915213not especially but it doesnt look that good either
alway rember happy birday
>>2915210use regional prompter to make them unique
>>2915201I wonder what cause these chibi to show up, I get some from time to time too
>>2915223chibi inset tag
>>2915223comes from artistsit cleans up with "crowd, chibi inset" tags in negs
>>2915227>>2915226good to know thanks
>>2915214>>2915220What's the best way to do regional prompting? Is there a particular format that works best?
>>2915226NTA but sometimes it shows up on its own without being tagged. My guess is that the model is trying to fit a random small blob of color to the character your prompted if you don't have a background specified.
>>2915239i meant you should add it to your negs when it appears
>>2915223I noticed it a lot more with that personal merge shitmix. I don't mind them but I also am using the negative they used in their example image which took out the "multiple views, 2koma, 4koma" stuff. Illustrious was bad about wanting to do multiples for some reason.
>>2915253because its not actually done baking
>>2915237regional prompter is a plugin for any generator forge, comfiu, auto 111 or whatever you use. Once you have it installed you make sure its activated then you prompt it this way>general prompt, particular prompt>BREAK>general prompt, particular promptFor example: >3girls, outdoors, city, cyberpunk, cyberpunk \(series\), anime screencap, take your pick, 1girl, long hair, hime cut, purple eyes, bodysuit, bare shoulders, fishnet armwear, fishnet pantyhose, ninja, standing >BREAK >3girls, outdoors, city, cyberpunk, cyberpunk \(series\), anime screencap, take your pick, 1girl, long hair, messy hair, red hair, green eyes, tsundere, red bodysuit, long sleeves, leggings, navel, standing >BREAK >3girls, outdoors, city, cyberpunk, cyberpunk \(series\), anime screencap, take your pick, 1girl, short hair, white hair, red eyes, expressionless, bodysuit, armored bodysuit, long sleeves, bike shorts, standing,
>>2915255Yeah v.01 Illu is could see problems just surprised they carry this far downstream. That personal merge shitmix is like on noob v1 + other models
>>2915262noob 0.5, 0.75, 1.0 all look like fucking ass
>>2915237There's no advantage over forge couple, just a different UI implementation for the same thing.For this use case you can just inpaint the suits individually, once you have a good composition.
>>2915261Very handy. Thanks.
i have no idea why it decided to add slime
Sleeping kitty.
>>2914993>>2914992>>2914989Box? Darkness in Latex is super hot
>>2915279https://files.catbox.moe/gfmebz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fhdoje.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6cu5mj.png
>>2915299I like this one
>>2915203sir, this is /e/.
>>2915333nice titties>>2915335i'm really biased towards pastel styles
>oi! new kid! wanna come to the forest to play dungeons and dragons?>we will let you to strike us once!
>>2915339pufff, who would destroy the world and condemn humankind for a puppet wife and a glowing sword?
>>2915161cute but needs either a sling swimsuit or no clothes
>>2915338>>2915339please sir... the box... >>2915046>>2915052
Nature kitty.
>>2915361Au nature kitty.
>>2915347i wouldn't give a dime to a nigger though I would give a box to an anonhttps://files.catbox.moe/ux5x54.png
>>2915367thank you based anon
>>2915339>try two-handing and then pickle
>>2915345i was just testing a lora but i agree
>>2915387based
>>2915370these fingers, so hot...
>>2915390RAISON D'ETRE RAISON D'ETRE RAISON D'ETRE
>>2915398Paimon
>>2915349so it can be done just from the original sketch? thanks for doing it like that as well.
>>2914648Small but firm and meaty asses, please.
>>2915412Now for the correct version...
>>2915413it still looks kinda weird
>>2915058Someone remembering that Momoko Exist? Bless your soul
>>2915405yes it can be done
>>2915398Requesting nipple piercings removed.
>>2915407maybe?
>>2915407
>>2915428Yeah, this looks right on point, thanks, anon.>>2915429nice.
Relaxed kitty.
Underwater kitty blub blub.
>>2915470>That fucked up book
Moonlight kitty.
>>2915472goddamit, I was happy I finally got get a gen that wasn't covered entirely in tangerines and didn't notice it.
>>2915475Based inpaint bro
Bigger resolution: https://files.catbox.moe/by3hyk.png
>>2915481hyper belongs on /d/
>>2915482wdym, she's smaller than the average american
>>2915501very funny.
>>2915510worth
>>2915510lmao nice. catbox?
>>2915512Sure thing:https://files.catbox.moe/qv0i5o.pngcould likely do better if you use stomping instead of kicking. I did not know stomping was a thing.
>>2915512>>2915516Yup, stomping is clearly better.
>>2915407Are there any good danbooru tags for small butts? Other than just literally prompting "small butt" I mean.
>>2915528negatives do the trick for body shape
>>2915528flat ass is a tag. So is petite.Usually, for me, I put huge ass in negs.
>>2915542>>2915543>>2915544>>2915545Who is that girl?
Today I remembered cosplay is a thing, time to make some wildcards.
>did my ass... get bigger? BAKANA... ARIENAI!
tatsuPUSSY
>>2915426
>>2915404Wasn't intending for her to be Paimon, but that's just how it turned out. Have another.
>>2915357Requesting bra removed.
>>2915558I love this.
>>2915569Messed with this for a few minutes. It kept hallucinating extra Atagos and doing weird shit in general. Fixed that, then I had trouble making her boobs sag (I mean. They were already defying gravity, but they had a bikini holding them up. Maybe it's a magic bikini! But without that bikini, they would naturally be a bit lower), but this is the best one of the batch.I tried using inpainting but it kept producing really weird results.
>>2915581She is back? Nice.
>>2915585Tried out the style on the shitmix, it does the body like it's supposed to do but the face it's off, I need to play a little more with it
>>2915570i'm making a bunch of these
>>2915344humankind is not limited to only the lands betweennot to mention the lands between are full of retarded niggers and ranni is based for telling them to kys and leaving with her husbando (you)
>>2914648requesting reimu with her hair down like she is in >>2913931 but in a full-body nude shot instead.
>>2915590dude that one is bad
>>2915592>badstill mogs 99% of slopgens on this board
>>2915595lol not even closealso>>>/aco/
>>2915595Why are you still in here if you hate this board and it's users so badly?
>>2915571Thats a really nice style, put that cat on a box so I can take it come as present for Kayoko
>>2915547Friendly reminder to leave your tags unpruned. Then it's a costume lora as much as it is a character lora.
>>2915606I will not argue about quality since I think those are good but honestly lot of them are way into /aco/ territory.Not all of them but others, specially the last two are totally /aco/
>>2915602It annoys me how all models are so obsessed to put windows on "spacecraft interior".Even if you negative prompt them you still get them
>>2915610https://files.catbox.moe/054j74.pnglora's can be found in appropriate directories herehttps://www.mediafire.com/folder/c449c4yww5y7t/noobpoint5
>>2915558melina is flat.
>>2915574fuck off shill
>>2915568Requesting nipple piercings removed.
>>2915571maebari's always a good idea, thanks for the reminder, anon.
>>2915546Just an OC
>>2915612I mean that's straight prompting but I get you.
>>2915636>>2915641>>2915642>>2915644very nice style, can you box one for the prompt?
>>2915615Thanks, good styles, but man, those are heavy as fuck, I thought 220 mb was already lot>>2915645Sure.The one I deleted was because the face looked like she was beaten up or some shit and wasn't aiming for that vibeI was basically just copiying this guy prompt but add an artist >>2915571https://files.catbox.moe/hc776n.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/bubrnr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/u18izc.pngThis one is with that other artist alonehttps://files.catbox.moe/7ka6rw.png
>>2915646Thanks
>>2915614how are you going to get dramatically sucked into the vacuum of space when your ship gets attacked with no fucking windows?
>>2915671>two right feetgood gen otherwise though
>>2915676fuck
>>2915676The eagle eye to differentiate toes in that mess.
i have a locon extraction for a checkpoint beta that works great but i wasnt satisfied with the checkpoint itself. im pixeldraining it now but don't feel like going out of my way for a civitai showcase.i think itercomp mixes like noobieater regress quite a bit on traditional media texture and this restores what was lost. (and as a bonus you can prompt higher quality gigachads if you want)
>>2915685pixeldrain /u/ii8mm4dV
>>2915678and also just remembered her eyes are purple
>>2915649That argument is so solid I can't really come with a reply
>tfw you've been training loras wrong the entire time
>>2915614I specifically prompted for a window. If you don't want one, you could describe the background as "futuristic hi-tech room".
>>2915702We'll find out won't we.
>>2915209The strongest gyaru in the world. Thank you.
>>2915698well played, sire, well played
>>2915703catbox? nice
>>2915646>but man, those are heavy as fuck, I thought 220 mb was already lotThey're GLORA's, which are EXTREMELY FAT lora's with twice the u-net of comparable dim lora's(meaning twice the file size). This more or less lets them do a lot more with better fidelity, etc, blah blah whatever. Basically there's autism behind it.Or to put it a different way, I do all my own training and I value results over filesize.
>>2915717rather have bigger lora than shitty one
>>2915716https://files.catbox.moe/p8z2hd.png
>>2915714those suspenders... what are they attached to?You wouldn't be breaking the rules, right?
>>2915721>all that shit on herI posted too quick fuck
>>2915721>what are they attached to?>You wouldn't be breaking the rules, right?why do you think she is putting that face?
>>2915721>You wouldn't be breaking the rules, right?Never
>>2915736based
>>2915717larger dim = better quality is a civitai meme
>>2915717what's your experience with glora versus locon extraction
>>2915742It's only 32dim.Also, no, it's literally not a meme. More dimension is more dimension. There absolutely is a point of diminishing returns but, by definition, more dimension is plainly more dimension.Again, I do all my own training. I do the training for my own use and filesize means fuck all to me.If you don't like it you're free to scrape your own dataset, set your own captions up and run it with whatever settings you want. I don't prune metadata from loras I upload so you can even get a working starting point.>>2915749fft locon extracts are bigger for comparable quality, a bigger pain in the ass all around and just doesn't seem super worth it.On paper fft locon extracts should be better due to training more layers better/more evenly but I can't really say I've been too impressed. At best it seems better for some types of specific artists with specific types of details but that's going to be a bit hard to actually gauge/benchmark.Of course, the proper fft pre-extract will probably be better - but it's also going to be better than anything you try and pull out of it. So that point is a bit moot since no one is going to upload/download entire models for a single artist.
>>2915751>There absolutely is a point of diminishing returns butyep, hence it being a meme
>>2915751i was lost for a while in baking, glora was the bleeding edge of schizo technology at the time and i tried it. but after baking my shit didnt work and i didnt know if it was my training setup or the webui/comfy compatibility. also training on pony was a more frustrating shitshow all around.ive only recently tried baking again and published my first models on civitai after having really nice results with locon extraction. but dealing with the extra time & files is a pain, so im looking to try a more normal lora process.
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>>291575232 is not a point of diminishing returns, though. It's past that that it starts becoming less noticeable. I've done more than enough a/b testing to figure that shit out.>>2915753GLORA was/is nebulous as fuck and no one knew how to actually make it work since it had fuck all for documentation. I more or less had to figure out everything from scratch and it fucking sucked. It works pretty well once you get used to it but it can still do some weird things on occasion.At the end of the day though it's, more or less, the XL of lora's. It's just really, really fat unet. >also training on pony was a more frustrating shitshow all aroundOddly, training on pony has been, so far, significantly easier than training on illustrious/noob. I've got some weird suspicions as to why that I won't elaborate on but it was significantly easier to get it to pick up an express certain qualities than it is for noob/illustrious.
>>2915756>32 is not a point of diminishing returnsyou're right, i think 64-128 are indistinguishable which is why i think glora or anything above that is basically a meme>Oddly, training on pony has been, so far, significantly easier than training on illustrious/noob. I've got some weird suspicions as to why that I won't elaborate on but it was significantly easier to get it to pick up an express certain qualities than it is for noob/illustrious.pony requires you to overfit the ever-living hell out of loras because of how overfit pony is, not to mention any traditional media style is pretty meh. my experience with training loras on illustrious/noob has been much more similar to sd1.5 models (original nai) with how fast they learn and converge. i think your schizo settings are why you're having issues more than anything
>>2915759>you're right, i think 64-128 are indistinguishable which is why i think glora or anything above that is basically a memeFatter unet is not the same as higher dim.32dim glora is the same dimension as 32dim locon. It just has double the unet capacity. Think of DIM as a depth. A 5ft deep pool is still only a 5ft deep pool, whether it's a 100sqft or 200sqft.>pony requires you to overfit the ever-living hell out of loras because of how overfit pony isNot really. Most of the stuff I ran on pony weren't really "overfit" - they regularized just fine for the most part. >i think your schizo settings are why you're having issues more than anythingDo you think I just ran with my settings 1:1 and never deviated or tried to do other shit to figure out what the fuck was going on or something?And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who's noticed. illustrious/noob seems to fry really easily while also underfitting really easily.
>>2915765>And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who's noticed. illustrious/noob seems to fry really easily while also underfitting really easily.it "fries" really easily because it doesn't need as much training time as pony does because the model isn't trash>And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person who's noticed. illustrious/noob seems to fry really easily while also underfitting really easily.did you train loras before pony? i haven't talked to a single person who has thought that training on pony was easier/better than on illus/noob
>>2915777>it "fries" really easily because it doesn't need as much training time as pony does because the model isn't trashYeah nah, I've already tried that route. Cutting training time down just results in an odd style underfitment that's also overfit on composition. It's possible whatever goals you have with training are different than mine but illusrious/noob are absolutely more temperamental. >did you train loras before pony?Yes? I did an amount of shit back in 1.5 days. It was garbage. You either overfit horribly on everything or settled for a degree of underfit. It was not a good time.>i haven't talked to a single person who has thought that training on pony was easier/better than on illus/noobI never said "better" - that's subjective. And figuring out how to get pony to behave was not easy or fun. But once you understood and could predict how it'd handle things it was, very plainly, really easy to train styles for - even if there were some that it completely absolutely refused to learn ever no matter what. (note: styles are NOT characters! you should be using different methodologies for each! and all of my commentary is exclusively related to style training)
>>2915779gonna have to agree to disagree. styles training easier on pony is a take i've never heard or agree with in my time of training loras. i've had way easier times getting faithful/accurate styles on sd1.5, illus, and noob than pony
>>2915789>>2915779Pony's straight up issue was when it came out it was so fried people spent weeks figuring out settings to cook on, I think it took me like 2-3 weeks before I found something that works. Then when you find something that worked there's just some artists that no matter what would never cook or work at all, then you either waste time adjusting settings or take the L and not bother. Illu I can't say it's been hard since i just used my pony settings and did minor tweaks and most came out okay or in a space that I liked.
>>2915789Generally speaking I can get more accuracy to *most* styles on illustrious/noob. But I think the problem is that there's just too much bleed and I generally have to include a lot more secondary stylistic traits to get certain aspects of an artist to actually express.Also with pony I could actually train it to do real, proper, actual #ffffff white backgrounds and it wouldn't intersperse it with random off-white noise. illustrious/noob? Well, it *can* do it but it's generally pretty random. Also LR's on pony were pretty straightforward and there were a few specified ranges to hit depending on the type of style. For illustrious/noob there's too much granularity since, again, it seems like it fries too easily while simultaneously underfitting too easily. So it can actually take 3-5 runs to really dial shit in and even after that you might still need the auxiliary style tags to get it to properly express. Also from what I've seen, people are actually frying the actual fuck out of their illustrious/noob lora's and just aren't really noticing it.(fun fact: that may actually be something only really possible on low dim/low alpha lora's! since frying there won't have as large of an impact unless you really over fry it since the scale is suddenly much larger(one increment at 32 alpha is worth 4 increments at 8 alpha))
>>2915202>>2915207>>2915210Nice to see some more Solarpunk pics.
>>2915791nta>either waste time adjusting settings or take the L and not botherOr use a trigger tag, which for some reason makes styles work a lot better on pony. Seems to counter much of its innate style bias, and even score tags to some degree. Just like when you prompt one of the few innate artists. You can prompt the whole score suite along with kagami hirotaka and it won't give you the usual /aco/face.For illustrious imo much of the overfrying comes from people not realizing the model already had partial knowledge of the artist, and just using their default settings.
>>2915789>styles training easier on pony is a take i've never heard or agree with in my time of training lorasWell, if you never heard of it Ill tell you know. I created quite a bunch of styles for pony and all of them worked really neat no problems at all.But I can't seem able to make them catch on illustrious.Although, I need to point out something important, I always used autismimx or one of autismmix merges, not base pony for the actual generations.
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>>2915839>For illustrious imo much of the overfrying comes from people not realizing the model already had partial knowledge of the artist, and just using their default settings.once again another point to pony (and civitai) being disastrous for image gen lmao
>>2915850unironic skill issue considering the exact same settings on pony work for illus
>>2915721Quite a nice sword.
>>2915839>You can prompt the whole score suite along with kagami hirotakaThat's one artist working way better on pony that he does in illu, I wonder why. Always comes out looking like his stuff from 20 years ago and with a deformed face.
>>2915869That's exactly the problem. I use the same settings I use for pony but on illustrious it simply does not catch the style.I even trained both styles back to back using same data same settings and still doesn't catch.Left Pony ver, right Illustrious ver
>>2915882Too far from illu's base style. It's pony's issue but in reverse, that one struggles with flat colors and uncurvy bodies.
>>2915853noob vpred is pretty good.anyone else tried it?
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>>2915885illu doesn't have a base style--that was the point of artist tags and no aesthetic tuning. wtf is this general on about nowadays?
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>>2915896Every model has a base style. Might be weaker but it's still an average of the danbooru dataset.
>>2915900that's splitting hairs. the point is illustrious "base" style is extremely weak and moldable. i'm genuinely convinced this place is retarded at this point compared to /hdg/, although /hdg/ has its own problems with being a shitposter ridden shithole
>>2915901It feels weak and moldable as long as you stay within strictly anime styles.
>>2915917cute
Think it thought her colored limbs were socks.
>>2915919The right feet gives off the impression that she is wearing a sock as there is a line around the toes. Nice idea though.
>>2915923Was just a straight AI fuck up, was running overnight gens of the new vpred that dropped. It's way too early for that to have been released but I think it could be good if they keep that line they're going on with it and don't just do some random shit out of left field.
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>>2915929>It's way too early for that to have been releasedThis.
>>2915893thats a very cute reimu but was requesting her with no hairbow or hairtubes
>>2915916nta; give me an aco artstyle you tried to train and couldn't get to work on noob/illustrious
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