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Guides and Info:
>Classic Meme
https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8
>Poorfag guide:
https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
>Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
>Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

"Suggest a watch for me."
>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread: >>18161859
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Samefagging deserve death
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>>18163495
>WAAAH WAAAAH YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE TWO POSTS IN A ROW WAAAH WAAAH I'M GONNA TELL THE MODS
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>>18163506
Still more reliable than the Lancia one.
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>>18163493
>Alfa Romeo Milano
>Swiss Made
>Old England
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>>18163491
rate my new shitter
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>>18163508
such an ugly watch
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>>18163512
based safari doctor, I like French watches
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>>18163522
Ugly indeed, but it fits the car theme we have going on.
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>>18163540
Car themed watches are always ugly.
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>>18163543
Another example.
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>>18163544
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>>18163544
>>18163543
some of the porsche design and ferrari by cartier watches are nice
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>>18163543
What the fuck is going on here?
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>>18163544
Where is the car theme here?
>>18163549
What is this case shape? Ugh
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>>18163552
>Where is the car theme here?
It was made as a collaboration with Aston Martin.
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>>18163551
It's just a bad picture.
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>>18163553
It doesn't look that bad, british racing green suits watches and should be used more if you ask me.
>>18163555
I see, that's one ugly case.
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>>18163555
Aren't they like literally putting these in bentleys, like on a dashboard?
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>>18163558
>It doesn't look that bad, british racing green suits watches and should be used more if you ask me.
For the dial sure, but for the case and bracelet I think it looks terrible and cheap. Ceramic breaks and shatters easily.
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Gay information about water resistance, antimagnetism, jewel count, movement, complications or certifications should not be openly visible anywhere on a watch, much less on the dial.

Fite me.
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>>18163570
I will fite you. I just don't like millions of lines of text on a dial like on a rolex or pelagos.
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porch
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>>18163570
a watch is a time measuring instrument, it makes perfect sense to indicate the specifications
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I have a watch related question. For how long do you need to wind up your automatic watch to keep it running when you don't wear it? NH35 specifically.
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>>18163575
This looks good, very germanic, everything is where it should be.
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>>18163576
Keep the dial clean, though. Leave the shit for the caseback, or with an open caseback the edges of it.

>>18163577
Automatic movements mostly have a mechanism where you cannot over-wind it, even when turning the crown a thousand times. The manual says 8 revolutions are enough, but I always do 20+ just because, this should keep it powered for those 38 or so hours. Strictly mechanicals or hand-wound have a wall.
t. NH35 shitter owner

Unrelated: how has noone been able to copy the design language of IWC pilots? Anyone who tried has fucked up the proportions.
I want one, but Im not payin IWC 3-6k for one.
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>>18163582
Are you serious? There are millions of the damn things.
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>>18163583
My point still stands about not being able to get it right. Does IWC have a patent on their design langue or what?
I know several companies, including quartz Messerschmitt copies/homages, but they still always look like shit, your pic also related. The fuck is "baltany" anyway? Baltics and Brittany combined for an aliexpress special.
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I unironically like Richard Mille. The RM05 is kino.
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>>18163582
>Unrelated: how has noone been able to copy the design language of IWC pilots? Anyone who tried has fucked up the proportions.
>I want one, but Im not payin IWC 3-6k for one.

I think it just cost more to get the finishing right, making it look crisp and clean. Smaller brands can't afford it and bigger brands isn't going to make an iwc copy.
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Do you have a watch that you simultaneously want very bad and don't want at all?
For me it's the lunar pilot.
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Kofe time.
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Why aren't there any cheap knock-offs of this?
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>>18163606
Because only rich people can travel all over the world and/or need to keep track of the time in multiple timezones.
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>>18163605
Finally
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>>18163603
I cannot justify the price.
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>>18163606
Farer makes one.
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>>18163614
Aren't the more basic panerai fairly cheap if you buy used?
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>>18163621
>3-4k used
Nein.
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>>18163621
>>18163625
They are, but the one anon showed is a pretty rare one. Only 200 examples made, back when Panerai was actually cool. Used examples will go for around 30k USD.
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>>18163628
Panerai seems to make a habit of pumping out thousands of goyslop watches that immediately devalue on the secondary market and then once in a while put out something insane nobody else is doing for $100k to entrap 200 rich cunts.
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I normally wear an automatic dive watch for work but recently I got a casio A158 I've been wearing when I get home just to try it out and I have to say the difference in the experience is night and day. The bracelet is slightly jangly, but the whole watch is so thin and light and comfortable and effortless to wear. How do they make such good watches so cheap and why aren't more people wearing these?
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>>18163645
>why aren't more people wearing these?
Everyone knows Casio and they know they're good, but cheap watches. For people outside blue collar jobs a watch's purpose is to signal your status.
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>>18163645
"wrist presence" is a cope meme that people lie to themselves about to justify a slab of stainless steel on their wrist
all watches should be handy, slim and light
if you need rugged, there is still no need for steel, as a mostly plastic digital gshock will do everything you need and more

mechanical watches nowadays are just jewelry, so there is no rationalizing, you can just sperg out whichever what way and not have to argument anything, or as >>18163652 said, status symbol, again, jewelry
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>>18163652
I don't mean casio in general, I mean specifically the A line. They're so much slimmer and more wearable and more refined than most of the resin Casios and G shocks and they're still functional with a lot of options and they are DIRT fucking cheap.
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>>18163645
People want nice things.
Casios aren't nice things.
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>>18163659
reddit please lmfao
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This is the week the Rolex Service will be complete, I can feel it in my bones
This one for sure
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I am pleased to inform you guys that I got a call and I am currently wearing my grail timepiece.
Feels good bros.
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>>18163643
Panerai's entirely fake history notwithstanding, old Panerai really died with the PAM 360 when they decided to shit on their own community.
After that, all the fun was gone and the only people left were the ones buying and flipping one limited edition after another. Then after that, the prices skyrocketed and the quality cratered and now the brand is basically dead.

I still have one and I do like wearing it from time to time, but I don't like the brand like I used to.
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>>18163673
Based, go get 'em
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Is chrono 24 or ebay better for buying used?

In terms of price and reliability, assuming you avoid private sellers on both and stick to dealer listing's with good feedback?
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>>18163712
Ebay for dirt cheap watches.
Chrono24 for everything under 2k.
Ebay for everything over 2k.
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>45 million years accurate moon phase
>over 400 years calendar accuracy
But
>needs to be serviced every 5 years or so
>timekeeping accuracy couple of seconds per day
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>>18163712
Watchcharts beats both.
Never buy any watch without checking pricing data there beforehand.
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>>18163720
>Ah yes IWC, the brand famous for its perpetual calendars and pushing the boundaries of watchmaking
I hate Richemont so fucking much. Even more than Swatch.
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Is there any point to buying a gold toned watch? Won't it just fade? I like the two toned look but don't want to waste money on something that won't last.
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>>18163736
I take it buying actual gold is out of the question?
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graduated my master's degree. Want to get a watch to mark the achievement but personal stuff lately has caused me financial limits..
do you guys recommend something that isn't too expensive? 1k max.
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>>18163747
>do you guys recommend something that isn't too expensive?
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Wearing a 6900 today lads
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>>18163752
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looking for some anonymous validation of my consumerism
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>>18163752
>>18163753
Based
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>>18163754
what's with the two shitters on the left?
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The debate is settled

CLOSE THE THREAD
STOP THE COUNT
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>>18163716
The 2k is because of their authentication process right?

What if I'm buying from outside the US?
Still better?
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>>18163757
the hamilton is from when i was poor
the zenith is pretty nice, i don't think you can get a chronograph with date in a smaller profile
i don't wear it much now because it needs a servicing badly, it's like -45s/day, whoever was shit talking the high beat movement for being finicky was right
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>>18163757
>Zenith
>Shitter
Zenith easily mogs Rolex and Omega
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>>18163767
>4:30 date window
lol
lmao even
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>>18163603
Why is it quartz
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>>18163754
Great collection except for the Hamilton
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>>18163757
>>18163776
>Hamilton is... le bad!
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>>18163757
El primeros are dope lmao you exposed yourself as a low born retard how embarrassing
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>>18163777
This.
Can't understand anons hate for them. It's literally his best piece.
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NEW THREAD WHEN???
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>>18163777
>>18163785
The amerimutts can't figure out why everyone hates their Yankee doodle watches lmao
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>>18163787
rent free
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>>18163787
Uh what?
Hamilton is a Swiss brand.
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>>18163777
>>18163785
>>18163788
>>18163789
they love the hamilton because it's the only one of the four they might possibly be able to afford
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>>18163793
>fake speedy and fake rolex
yeah i dont think so
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>>18163794
>i'm poor so anything nice posted must be fake
>the only way for me to cope with my reality
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>le moonwatch
>hamilton insterstellar
holy science!
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>>18163797
Projecting much lmfao????
Just look at them, poorfaggot lmfao.
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>>18163793
I like the Hamilton 38mm intramatic as an understated dress watch, but beyond that they're kind of meh.
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Fuck off with your Hamilton fucking niggerfaggot
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>>18163765
>the hamilton is from when i was poor
Why don't you smash it with a hammer then? Show us the pieces.
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> 34–36mm stainless case
> 18mm lug width
> Silver or white dial with date
> 50m+ wr
> ETA 2824/2982 or SW200/300 or derivative
> No microbrands no Seiko
> under 5k
> new

what are my options, I can't find anything
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Zenith is such a meme brand...
>4:30 date window on 90% of their watches
>overlapping subdials on their chronographs
>keep releasing obvious RO copes in 2024
>that one watch with a retarded small second that makes a full rotation in 10s
>a billion of random limited editions nobody asked for
>designs all over the place (skeletonized watches, Daytona copes, RO copes, pilot watches, 1:1 reissues of vintage watches)

They also make the most retarded design choice. Look at pic related. What's the point of that dodecagonal bezel between the dial and the rotating bezel? Also those thick hands lmao

>B-B-B-BUT ZENITH MADE MOVEMENTS FOR ROLEX
Yeah, and Rolex decided to slow them down to 4Hz because of reliability issues.

What a shitshow this brand is.
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>>18163821
>what are my options
Kill yourself or cope&seethe
Faggot
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>>18163819
that's a bit much
he could tip his waiter with that or something
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>>18163543
>Car themed watches are always ugly.
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>>18163823
To put it short they are pieces of shit for shitheads who think "horological history" matters.
Yet another poorfag cope.
I'd rather wear a fucking omegay..
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>>18163831
case in point LMFAO
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>IWC
>Hamilton
>Zenith
reeks of poor in here.
SHITTERS!
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Pick one.
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>>18163846
the calatrava
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>>18163603
The asking price for a 2492/SW330 that's not even the COSC'd version is ridiculous but black and white bezels are too nice.
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>>18163754
Set the time on your sub.
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>>18163846
i wish JLC made dual faced reversos that weren't so huge
they all wear so massive and boxy, just doesn't really work
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>>18163846
wouldn't touch any of those shitters but if I have to choose I'd pick the calatrava
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>>18163846
Calatrava.

The Railmaster looks good but the co-axial movement is just going to grenade itself. The JLC Reverso should be a simple, white dial watch.
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>>18163829
I regret to inform you people no longer buy mechanical chronographs to actually use the chronograph. Many who have them probably don't even know how, 99% of things you would want to time are better served with a dive time bezel for way less money, and even if you did actually need to time a race or use a totalizer a dirt cheap casio can probably do it better.

The actual reason people buy mechanical chronographs is to flex on poor retards. Poor retards look at all the buttons and subdials and it activates their lizard brains. Watch people rich and poor still "respect" it because they know what it takes to buy and maintain the higher end ones but they know you bought it just because it's a popular in-demand piece and not because you're actually timing anything. 9 times out of 10 all those subdials will be zeroed.
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>>18163774
Because if it was mechanical chornograph the price would not match the name on a dial.
Even quartz is overpriced.
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>>18163869
You're right, of course.
What I've always wanted to know however is who bought watches pre-1950s that explicitly weren't military or professional tool watches that had a chrono? Who was buying the Patek's, the Vacherons, the Universal Geneve's and the like that were what we now call "dress watches" (which was then just "a watch") that had chronographs?
For what purpose?
The midlife crisis boomer that goes and buys a bunch of sportswear meme didn't exist then and no respectable be-suited gentleman would wear a professional's, aka a prole's, watch on his wrist to a meeting in the Square Mile or wherever.

These watches exist, but why were people buying them?
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>>18163831
At least post the Monaco
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>>18163880
The answer is basically nobody. They were all sold at discounts because nobody wanted them. People didn't give a shit about chronographs until Paul Newman and the moon landing.
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>>18163491
I just placed an order for an Oceaus. It looks like an interesting timepiece
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>>18163833
Cringe take. If that didn't matter why do people hate Chinese stuff
>>18163840
Cringier take, post your watch
>>18163849
Are they? You sure about that?
>>18163886
Just weird
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>>18163886
It looks more boring than accountants trousers.
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>>18163893
I mean not by the looks but the functions
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Posting my Chronomaster is a watch thread.
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>>18163886
Damn this white blue combo looks nice.
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>>18163900
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>>18163904
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>>18163897
If you want to buy a gadget just buy applewatch, you don't have to stoop down to quartz.
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>>18163900
(You)
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>>18163900
>>18163904
Why can't they ban this guy
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I love watches so much. But I've begun to sell off my collection, parting ways with a couple rolexes. It's a weird feeling. For now I'm just keeping one nice watch and an f91-w. I think you can still appreciate this hobby from afar.
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>>18163907
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I love how the sandwich dial plays with the light.
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>>18163918
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>>18163754
Don't listen to these fucktards on the Hamilton. Everyone needs a beater and as mechanical watches go it's hard to beat the khakis. They just recently put out blue dial ones along with some other colors and I was thinking about buying one but I found they're on their bullshit again where they don't offer bracelets on all dial colors and by the time I buy the watch and an aftermarket bracelet I could have just got the blue dial titanium automatic khaki I'm also interested in.
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>>18163923
>I'm new here, what did he do?
Go back and look at the archive threads. He spams the same set of images every...single...thread.
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>>18163902
It looks a bit nautical-themed, I like that.
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>>18163909
I don't use an IPhone. I also got an Bangle.js already, it's hard to get any more gadgety
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>>18163902
It is indeed the superior color scheme.
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>>18163929
Someone will shit on anything posted, don't dignify it by responding.
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>>18163931
Understood
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>>18163716
Everything on Chrono24 is wildly overpriced. eBay or nothing
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>>18163939
How do you know watches are legit or guarantee you're getting legit shit through ebay?
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>>18163524
There all ridiculously cheap too
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>>18163943
I don’t buy anything they make counterfeits of, I’m not a basic bitch. A lot of dealers have an eBay presence too. So you can go by there reputation if you need too
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>>18163943
>How do you know watches are legit or guarantee you're getting legit shit through ebay?
If the watch is over 2000 dollars, then it doesn't get sent to you directly. It gets sent to an authenticator who will check it to make sure it's legit before sending it to you. The process is pretty seamless.
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>swatch shitters from hamilton to rado to whatever
>all use the C07 family
Ignoring the C07's that have plastic balance wheels and pallets, how bad are the other C07's considering none of this series have regulators?
I have an old Khaki with a standard 2824 that ran fine until I dropped it on a marble floor.

Anyone know anything about the "laser regulated" C07's? Do they keep their accuracy over time or is it truly just another jewish cashgrab from (((swatch}} and a dumb meme bought by retards?
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>>18163960
Laser regulation in and of itself is a good thing. Companies like Rolex and Seiko also do it.

The thing with the C07 is that the balance wheel only has 2 balance weights. Compare to a Rolex which has four weights or Patek which has eight. Those weights are moved in and out to increase or decrease the inertia of the balance wheel. More weights gives you finer control. Two weights makes it difficult for a watchmaker to get perfect, but if you have a laser assisting you, it's easier.
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>>18163658
really? I have never worn a casio A, but the resin 5610u already feels like nothing on my wrist.
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>>18163975
a156 is half the thickness and like 10mm smaller in every other direction, and it has normal 18mm lugs so you can put straps on it if you want to. It's also a lot more metal than resin so that's good for people who happen to get skin irritation from resin. The tradeoff is you don't get all the whizbangs like multiband and solar and all the water resistance and it has the shitty LED backlight, but if you don't really need all that shit and just want a little easy to wear digital watch it's great.
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>>18163979
I see the bunny is comfy, nice.
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>>18163982
Do you know what Stockholm syndrome is?
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>>18163971
So it's a
>can only be regulated at the factory
deal? It's not that they've removed the need for regulating it ever again, they've just made it difficult to get regulated, which will need to be done one day, unless you go via the official channels?
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>>18163982
She's always comfy with us :)
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>>18163754
>C A A F
Green ceramic looks fucking awful
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>>18163991
No, it can be serviced and adjusted by a watchmaker; it's just more difficult than if it had a regulator like the ETA 2824 the movement is based on.

Also, important to note, regulation is not always necessary when servicing a movement. Once the movement is disassembled, cleaned and lubricated, its timekeeping will improve and be within factory specs again.
A watchmaker will only work on timekeeping once the movement has been reassembled.
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>>18163998
nta but i agree, looks too plasticky. Aluminium bezels look way better.
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>>18164004
I like it for the extra color option. Black looks good but every dive watch comes in black. It's nice to have something different. They really should do more colors. Blue would probably go insane if they made a steel one.
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>>18164006
>extra color option
The previous green one (was it the Kermit?) looks nicer.
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>>18164006
>They really should do more colors.
Nah, the opposite.
more color offerings = less iconic watches
Rolex should also discontinue A LOT of their models, and fire whoever insisted on adding a see through caseback on the precious metal Daytona.
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>>18164019
>Breguet
>date window
>central second hand
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>>18164019
I am too jealous, like that animefag.
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>>18164019
Nice Breguet, m8.
Congrats
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>>18164009
do you mean the aluminum bezel, or the earlier generation ceramic bezel (it was a darker, like forest green)
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>>18164029
Probably because you were the first client this month and he will be able to eat today.
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>>18164027
Honestly both. But the aluminium is better.
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>>18164029
>I didn't get it.
You made the right decision.
If there's one Breguet to buy, it's the 5907.
Breguet shouldn't come with a date window or a central second hand. These are modern features that don't work at all with the very traditional Breguet design.
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Why does this thing have to be so enormous and why the fucking japanese can't do anything right?
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>>18163913
>I've begun to sell off my collection
You need the money or for other reasons?
I think I'd feel weird having multiple high end shitters unless my net worth was multi million.
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>>18164037
>why the fucking japanese can't do anything right?
Because they don't understand good design. They just throw shit together they try to copy from better watches.
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>>18164033
He also couldn't afford it. He was just wasting the salesman's time.
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My Seiko blue coral monster
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>>18164047
Breguet actually makes some sports watches that look oddly satisfying. At the very least they aren't aping other companies.
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>>18164064
The Breguet Marine line is pretty gross. The Type XX chronographs used to be pretty slick, but they ruined them with the latest release.
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>>18164064
>Breguet actually makes some sports watches that look oddly satisfying.
The Marine? It's awful.
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>>18164016
Which models?
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>>18164025
Whoretadello was so much fun back then. Now the magic is gone and he's just Finncel with body odor.
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>>18164069
The entire Yacht-Master line
Air-King (unless they go back to what it used to be)
40mm Explorer I
Get rid of the Explorer II altogether
Deepsea
Sky-Dweller
1908
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>>18164069
There's too many. Rolex should make only these models.
>Datejust (stainless steel only, lady size + 36mm)
>Day Date (precious metal, 36mm)
>Submariner (stainless steel and gold only, no two tone, 40mm)
>GMT Master II (stainless steel and gold only, no two tone, 40mm)
>Explorer 1 (stainless steel only, 36mm)
>Explorer 2 (stainless steel only, 40mm)
>Daytona (stainless steel and gold only, 40mm)
>Sea Dweller (stainless steel only, 40mm)
Fuck everything else.
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I really wish these avatarfags started a discord or something..
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>>18164074
What exactly did the Air King line "used to be"? It's probably the most confused Rolex line ever, they were kind of always just OP/explorer spin offs. The new ones are ugly but at least they have different dials.

I don't get the 40mm and 41mm explorers and datejusts, but for some reason they seem to sell.

Yacht-master is, effectively, just more Submariners in more colors and metals. Which is good, I think. Same with Explorer 2, It's kind of just a GMT master variant and a lot of people seem to like it.

Deepsea, Sky Dweller and 1908 are memes. Still, I think the 1908 has merit as an idea, the line needs a dressier watch. It's just not well executed and overpriced for what it is.
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>>18164075
So just fuck 2 tone?
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>Pic related will drive that one anon into a blind rage
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>>18164087
>What exactly did the Air King line "used to be"?

A simple, small pilot's watch.
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>>18164090
Based
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which one do you like? Me? I prefer the "super case", to me it's like a fat lady, and I like a woman you can grab onto something
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>>18164087
>What exactly did the Air King line "used to be"? It's probably the most confused Rolex line ever, they were kind of always just OP/explorer spin offs. The new ones are ugly but at least they have different dials.
The Air-King was a pilot's watch, like the other anon said, but Rolex has since developed a new pilot's watch: the GMT-Master, which was explicitly created for pilots. I agree, it can go.
>I don't get the 40mm and 41mm explorers and datejusts, but for some reason they seem to sell.
Yes, fat people, Mediterraneans, Africans, Arabs, etc also like Rolex.
>Yacht-master is, effectively, just more Submariners in more colors and metals. Which is good, I think. Same with Explorer 2, It's kind of just a GMT master variant and a lot of people seem to like it.
Yacht-Master was a plan to replace the Submariner with a more upscale version that completely tanked. Continuing to make it is pointless.
>Deepsea, Sky Dweller and 1908 are memes. Still, I think the 1908 has merit as an idea, the line needs a dressier watch. It's just not well executed and overpriced for what it is.
I don't think Rolex needs a dress watch. Panerai doesn't need a dress watch. Leave the dress watches to the companies that do it well.
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IT'S UP GUYS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lKwWcX3bE
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>>18164100
Yacht-master was never intended to REPLACE the submariner by any stretch. It's just another alternative for more upscale customers that like different colors and materials, which is fine.

There's nothing wrong with adding more color to the catalogue. The market actually supports that idea, every new color of OP goes insane on the secondary market. Color alone can sell a watch.
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>>18164105
>>18164070
People were still seething at him the same and reporting his posts, so why would he post anything like that?
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>>18164116
He ban evades anyway, what's the difference?
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>>18164117
Only bittercel ban evades
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>>18163754
+2 for khaki and El Primero
Ignore the other two
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>>18164111
>Yacht-master was never intended to REPLACE the submariner by any stretch.
Yes, it was. In the late 80s as Rolex was moving into pure luxury and away from utilitarian tool watches, they test marketed a "luxury" submariner. The response was less than positive, so they marketed the watch anyway but called it "Yacht-Master" and not "Submariner".
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>>18164120
No, whoretadello definitely ban evaded when he was banned for posting whores.
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>>18164120
>Only bittercel ban evades
>t. bittercel
You're not fooling anyone, Bittercel. Keep spamming that report button, though.
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>>18164125
None of that means they were replacing the original submariner.
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>>18164019
Very nice.
But not something I'd buy.
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>>18164129
>None of that means they were replacing the original submariner.
Yes, it does. They wanted to replace the old classic Sub with the precious metal version. More precious metals means higher margins.

The only remaining professional diver would have been the Sea-Dweller, since Rolex figured that they didn't need two professional divers.
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>>18164132
lotta supposition and postulation in there bro.
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>>18164128
Oh, hi, bittercel.
What are you wearing today?
Oh wait! HAHAHA
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>>18164120
>>18164134
Threadlore: The original Bittercel is the one that puts -cel as a suffix behind everything. For some reason, he hated an anon who owned a Reverso and tried to call him Reversocel. Bittercel got his own name within minutes. Receiving that name shook him so badly he has spent the last couple of months trying to make it a common name. He stopped posting from his set of reaction images because all the users knew it was him
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>>18164137
Lorecel please...

Everyone called reversocel reversocel.
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>>18164137
Thank you, Lorecel.

>>18164134
Hey Bittercel. I miss the images you would make with AI. Those were funny.
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>>18164146
>Everyone called reversocel reversocel.
No, it was just you. He was ReversoAnon. You started the -cel thing.
Why did you hate him so much? Just curious?
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>>18164147
>
Classic bittercel (poor) diversion attempt
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>>18164149
>N-n-n-no, it's you!!
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>>18164137
I remember that. Christ, I've been here too long.
Does he still post image reaction of the guy with the weak chin?
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>>18163501
Newfags not knowing what samefagging is And when and why it's pointed out are always hilarious. This site is so sad now. I almost want to think it's bait
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>>18164151
>Had to respond still
Classic bittercel ego. Truly your number one giveaway, never letting an opportunity to seethe pass!
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>>18164137
>He stopped posting from his set of reaction images because all the users knew it was him
What set was that?
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>>18164155
>never letting an opportunity to seethe pass!
You mean like you just did?

Also, NTA, here's proof I'm not bittercel. I own a watch. bittercel never, ever, ever posts watchpics.
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>>18164158
Holy shit no wonder you're bitter
t. NTA
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>>18164158
>bittercel never, ever, ever posts watchpics.

Yeah, he does this bizarre thing where he'll say "post watch" someone else will say "you first" and he'll insist, and then the other guy posts a watch and bittercel never does. he seems to think that this is some kind of a win. like "haha I tricked you into posting a watch in the watchthread."
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>>18164162
>"haha I tricked you into posting a watch in the watchthread."
It look him less time to prove you right than it took to type out your response. >>18164160
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>>18163495
Newfags do. Which is you
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>>18164162
Truly fucking bizarre.
On par with his "not giving a (you)" habit where he responds to some post but breaks the post link. He think that is a great insult and hurts people.
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>>18164163
I don't think that's bittercel. NTA means not that anon.
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>>18164166
>He think that is a great insult and hurts people.
To be fair, it does bother avatarfags.
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>>18164167
Also he has a watch and Bittercel does not. That's a dead giveaway, right there.
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>>18164168
You'd think so, bittercel.
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>>18164147
>bittercel
>17 matches
LMFAO
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It's bad enough giving avatarfags attention, why are you responding to an obvious troll for the last hour?
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>>18164166
I wonder if he's a 15 year old boy having a little fun or if he's like a 40 year old divorced millennial?
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>>18164175
bittercel is easy to feed I guess.
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>>18164158
Based 1st gen. Last good diver Omega made.

Does anyone else swap out their bracelets for NATOs in summer? I love the look of a bracelet, but no matter how loose I wear it, it gets too hot. Picrel.
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>>18164102
spoiler: mark picks squale and tgv picks panerai
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>>18164190
>mark picks squale
Really sucking up to TGV, I see.
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What's the full lore on this Bittercel guy?
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>>18164190
Truthfully, I kind of like Squale. They know what they are.
The classic 1521 50ATMOS is a really capable diver in the old school mold. There aren't many, if any, divers that have 500m WR and are as thin.
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Are any watchtubers good?
Aside from Archie obviously.
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>>18164202
This guy summed it up for you >>18164137

He's just your run-of-the-mill jealous guy who became too recognizable in his trolling.
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>>18164205
In terms of watch reviewers? No. None of the reviewers are honest.

teemosso is OK, as long as you understand he's a salesman flogging product.
the IDGuy has interesting content but his tastes are pretty narrow.

Really, the best YT watch content are the watchmakers calmly disassembling and servicing a movement, occasionally explaining what they're doing. It's both informative and relaxing.
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>>18164205
Paul is the worst.
TGV, teddy, bens watch club are good ones.
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>>18164098
If you're going to impersonate furio, you may as well wear his watch
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>>18164203
It's almost as if Squale made cases for dive watch makers.
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>>18164214
>the best YT watch content are the watchmakers calmly disassembling and servicing a movement, occasionally explaining what they're doing.
autism
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>>18164222
Wait. Zoomers actually LIKE watching adverts?
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>>18164224
yes because they need someone to tell them what to think, and the shill gladly does this
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>>18164221
What's your point?
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>>18163886
I have one in black. It’s a great set it and forget it beater watch and it actually looks more expensive than it is
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>>18164214
Mosso seems like a good dude for the most part
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>>18163754
Love the zenith. Going to pick one up shortly :) good work fren
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One year out from a left frontal craniotomy. Wife surprised me with this Explorer homage today. Idk, I like it a lot. Mark seems like a solid guy.
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>>18164331
I love this watch but you're wearing it wrong.
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>>18164331
Do your bones hurt?
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>>18164331
Sad that you clearly suffered some sort of brain damage, as we can tell by the fact that you "like" Islander watches.
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>>18164205
menta watches for serious content
Producer Michael for modern watches. there bullshit, and they deserve to be treated with the respect they deserve.
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>>18164033
>Breguet shouldn't come with a date window or a central second hand. These are modern features that don't work at all with the very traditional Breguet design.
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>>18164331
I like it
Good homage that isn't a pure ripoff.
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Kofe time.
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>>18163754
Lacking (but not void of) personality.
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>>18164377
Why do you put so much milk in your coffee? Are you a bitch?
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>>18164357
He's right. It's like wearing a suit with sneakers. It shows a complete lack of taste.
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Want a Chudor for my collection, already have an Oyster Perpetual as my daily but Ive been wanting a Tudor for a while to celebrate a nice occasion coming up.

I've narrowed down my choices to

>black bay pro
>black bay 54
>black bay 58 GMT

I'm leaning toward the 54 but what do you guys think?
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>>18164422
regular 58
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>>18164422
54 is for fags like the one who raped me at the KFC in Doylestown, PA in June 2003
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>>18164425
Hey, didn't think I'd hear from you again, wanna hook up?
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>>18164426
Yes, meet me at the KFC in Doylestown.
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>>18163543
>Car themed watches are always ugl-
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>>18164422
I've tried the Black Bay 58 GMT the other day. It's nice. My favorite Tudor so far.
I wouldn't buy it though, it gives off "my first big boy watch" vibes.
Honestly I don't think you should buy a Tudor if you're over 30 or 35 years old.
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>>18164428
Okay, what watch are you wearing? I'm still rocking the bb54. I'll bring the tudor, you bring that tooter ;)
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>>18164432
More like 25 but yea I agree.
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>>18164432
Kek It looks a lot cheaper than the promotional pictures on their web site.We should have more of these images so that we can't avoid buying on impulse.
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>>18164451
Tudor is a great choice if you want the quality of Seiko and the prestige of Longines.
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>>18164453
>Longines

No thanks I'm not into gambling
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>>18163512
I love it
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>>18163543
Love that one. I tried it on at the store, it looks small for a 35 though.
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>>18164246
Thanks. I really look forward to it. The seller shipped fast it should be here within a few days from Japan, I honestly thought it would take a few weeks.
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>>18164460
36 I mean
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Thoughts on the powarmatic80 movement watches tissot, certina etc?
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>>18164465
It's fixed by laser and can not be regulated.
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>>18164466
That aside the 2824 on which upon it is based is a good workhorse movement. If anything goes wrong after a few years you can replace it with that one as it will fits the dimensions.
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>>18164466
NTA but it has inertial weights for regulating it
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>>18164451
>We should have more of these images
The "people" who post in these threads never leave their basements.
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>>18164469
>workhorse movement
Hi Tristano
Ok, ciao!
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>>18164469
Can you really replace powetmatics with etas? Does that work for the Hamilton equivalent h10 and h40 and so on too?
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Who makes the ugliest watches right now and why is it citizen?
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>>18164478
Frank Muller
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>>18164465
>>18164469
It eats itself away
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>>18164476
A Powermatic 80 has the exact same dimensions as the ETA 2824-2. So, any drop-in replacement for an ETA 2824-2 will work. Not sure about the Hamiltons you need to check the specs. You can wiggle around small offs.
I recently swapped a 7S26 for a NH36. As the new movement was a little higher I installed a domed Saphire Crystal to give the hands a little more space.
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>>18164471
Point taken. But servicing will require it to be sent to the factory, where they will probably just throw in a new movement
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>>18164473
it's workhorse because when it breaks you shoot it in the head and get a new one
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a mechanical watch movement should be serviceable by a certified watchmaker with traditional tools for a 100+ years
I refuse to make movement-swapped frankenwatches because the Swatch Group cut back on quality to reduce production costs
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>>18164486
Isn't there a little more to it that just fitting in the case? Like they have to share the same methods of securing into the case and the dimensions of the components that do that and so on.
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>>18164489
>servicing will require it to be sent to the factory, where they will probably just throw in a new movement
You never truly own a swiss watch, you merely pass it on to your kids after the 5th movement change
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>>18164489
No.
Swatch has issued service instructions and specs for the Powermatic (including oiling the pivots of the pellet fork which is very unusual with ETA and swiss watchmaking in general). It can be serviced without any issue by any place that's cleared for repair (which includes a lot of stores with their own watchmakers, some independent workshops with most levels of Swatch Group repair accreditation, level 2 onwards IIRC, and of course the repair platforms operated by Swatch themselves).
Only issue on the longer term is wear and tear on the silicon parts of the escapement and availability of replacement parts. Although the Powermatic is basically a 2824 with a fancy new escapement so there's a good chance you could, if all else fails and parts are unavailable, replace the escape wheel, pellet fork and balance wheel for that of a 2824.
Also, it's really not Swatch's repair policy to change movements entirely for mechanical and autos, and if they have to do it they usually inform you on their repair diagnosis and quote. That can always change, of course, but as of now it isn't the case.
>tl;dr :
The whole fuss about the Powermatic being unservicable is entirely wrong, Swatch has already issued service instructions for it and the only problem with ownership now is long-term durability of the silicon parts then availability of spare parts.
And if you want to kick up a fuss over spare part availability, then the Swatch Group is the very last one you should be mad at since they are the easiest ones to work with.
>get clearance for Tissot
>you now have access to basically the entire ETA parts catalog
>meanwhile Richemont requires you to go brand by brand and buy tools each time, Breitling, Oris and Zenith ask for huge sums upfront and still won't send anything for certain movements and the less said about Rolex the better
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>>18164498
>Also, it's really not Swatch's repair policy to change movements entirely for mechanical and autos, and if they have to do it they usually inform you on their repair diagnosis and quote.
With the powermatic they WILL change the entire movement unless it's the COSC-certified version.
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>>18164498
>this level of larp to defend swatch
Jesus Christ, bordering Rolex cucks mentality
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>>18164495
It's basically the same movement with alterations. If you open up the case there is a spacer surrounding the movement to hold it in place. As the dimensions are the same it will fit in.
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NTA but stay clear of the cheapo powermatic 80.

PROOFS:
https://youtu.be/0VKoZ_Bdd7M?feature=shared&t=253
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Watchmaker here, I consider the powermatic a satanic globalist invention designed to pervert horology and for that reason I refuse to work on it.
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>>18164507
Finally someone who dares to speak the TRUTH.
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>Le Powermatic 80 Le bad
Why?
>B-B-Because it just is! OKAY!??
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>>18164501
Accept the facts, take your L and move on.
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Enjoy your shitomatic and kys faggot
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>>18164522
What a sad life you must have.
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>>18164465
save up for a Rolex
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>>18164519
They already said why, it has plastic parts and they want you to service them in house.
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Help me out guys.
What is a good watch?
Please name one (1) watch that you would deem as good and worthy of wearing. Can be any price, but preferably under 5k €.
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>>18164525
Who would service them outside? You risk getting water, dust and all kinds of crap inside the watch.
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>>18164527
>he doesn't know about plein air watchmaking
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>>18164528
>meet the Certina authorized service center of Mumbai.
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>>18164529
Funny
Captcha SARGP says it is actually Girard Perregaux service center
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>>18164525
>"I don’t understand why watch-making companies don’t release parts for us watch-repairers to fix watches,” says Asad Murtaza. “Our business relies on the availability of spare parts. We’re quite qualified to do those repairs but the manufacturers do not want us fix the watches. Watches are now disposable so they run accurately for a certain time period after which you have to throw out and get a new one.”
the powarmatic is bad sir please dont buy the powarmatic sir
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>>18164526
>under 5k
black bay 58\pelagos FXD
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>>18164531
As my co-worker has one of those and he is the cheapest guy ever (complaining to get free room upgrades or extras, visiting locations for free coffee, hauling perfume samples at different stores, etc.) I would believe that in an instant.
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>posting all sorts of car themed watches
>not posting the best one
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>>18164545
>mille miglia
can't speak for the watch but the edt is a nice cheapie
>>
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>>18164532
This but unironically sir
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NEW THREAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>18164555
>>18164555
>>18164555
>>18164555
>>18164555
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>>18163754
Shit choice for a diver, I bet only reason people get the submariner is because they want a RAWLEX
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Gonna post Mt watch
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>>18164526
Rolxcexx
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>>18164430
Basically any other digital would be better here



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