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I'm in the market for a new winter jacket. In the place I live I get a short, but cold below zero winter, some rain, some snow once in a while. So apart from the style, what materials should I be looking at (I want to spend some more money for something nice that would last me awhile).
For example - would a wool coat get fucked if it gets wet?
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>>18184446
Not even fall yet, why can't fattys just enjoy the most based season: summer.
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>>18184498
Because there are some pretty sweet -50% deals out there for winter stuff.
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>>18184498
you'd be less of a fag if summer promoted good discussion on /fa/ but it really doesn't.
but, even if it did, there's literally no reason not to talk about this and we both know it's 99.99$ that this didn't bump a quality thread off the board.

>>18184446
swanndri of nz make water resistant wool clothing and it's winter down here right now.
so, in the near future, they're probably going to heavily discount the stuff they couldn't sell.
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>>18184597
yeah learned the best time to buy winter shit is now
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>>18184446
>So apart from the style, what materials should I be looking at
outdoorsnigger here. you want 2 jackets one for weatherproofing one for insulation. you want a layering system not 1 catch-all jacket they wind up being only usable in too specific of conditions.

natural materials:
waxed canvas over top, wool underneath

synthetic:
columbia outdry (best, kinda ugly) or gore tex pro (better styles fashion wise, kinda meh quality) outer shell lots of brands make gore tex ones in various styles
for insulation layer a down jacket, fleece or wool sweater can be used. get something more warm and less warm ideally for choice depending on how active you're being.


i made a list of good down jacket brands for another anon a while ago i'll paste it below. overall rec from me is the first 5 links but all are good:

https://featheredfriends.com/
https://www.montbell.us/
https://www.kuiu.com/collections/insulated-jackets
https://www.kuiu.com/collections/everyday-jackets
https://rm-fb.com/
https://nunatakusa.com/15-garments-down
https://www.stoneglacier.com/collections/insulation-layers
https://www.moncler.com/en-us/
https://www.stoneglacier.com/collections/insulation-layers
https://www.patagonia.com/shop/mens/jackets-vests/insulated/down
https://www.outdoorresearch.com/collections/mens-down-jackets
https://www.mrporter.com/en-us/mens/designer/stone-island/clothing/coats-and-jackets
https://rab.equipment/us/mens/down-jackets
https://www.instagram.com/thenorthface.purplelabel/?hl=en

comparison spreadsheets:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1POD9G2hYC7wOqJfr6XFEqbn8haCr8jOxAAwudggkP2I
https://imgur.com/a/down-jacket-decision-table-KyAR5a4
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>>18184751
>swanndri of nz make water resistant wool clothing
best system for natural materials is a coarser thicker more weatherproof wool like this, a lighter wool sweater when its not quite as cold, and a waxed canvas that fits over the thicker sweater for when its raining hard out.
also want to have a good wide brim water resistant hat.
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>>18184764
Stores aren't selling winter stuff right now, not even online stores. At least in my cunt.
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>>18184446
Define below zero. Below zero F as in cold or below zero C as in not cold
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>>18184787
outdoorsnigger? are you black??
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What's the most similar wool dark gray/charcoal herringbone jacket to this? This one is great but it is lined and might get too warm sometimes so ideally something a bit lighter or just similar to consider other options please.
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>>18186717
Fucking lol
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>>18187128
https://weatherwool.com/en-ca/products/south-shore-chore-coat?variant=45011730890999
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>>18184498
Stop posting this roided out freak
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>>18187138
>gets caught littering in 4k
>still cries racism
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I am addicted to buying jackets
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>>18188101
Me too. Why are we so fucking stupid? It's not as if there's not other holes to fill in my closet.
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>>18184498
Not fat but summer is sweating season for me. The other three seasons are mine but summer is suffering for me.
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>>18184446
>would a wool coat get fucked if it gets wet?
NO. First off wool absorbs less water than other natural fabrics. Two, wool can absorb (iirc) 30% of it's weight in water before it feels wet to the touch. Thirdly wool does not lose it's insulation capabilities even when completely soaked (the reason why sailors/fishermen wear wool). Fourthly wool actually generates heat when wet through a chemical reaction. Wool is truly a miraculous material, it's the kind of material fabric companies *wish* they could invent.
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>>18188216
quit ascribing made up mythic properties to wool. you have no clue what you're talking about. you're suggesting wool as rain gear to someone and you didn't even mention the difference between coarse and woven wool. meaning you have no fuck or clue what you're talking about and should STFU, RTFM and let people who know their shit talk. fucking reddit midwit dunning kreuger moron. fuck people who know nothing but spew bullshit like its facts.

>NO. First off wool absorbs less water than other natural fabrics.
wrong. wax exists. waxed canvas absorbs water less readily.

>Two, wool can absorb (iirc) 30% of it's weight in water before it feels wet to the touch.
>Thirdly wool does not lose it's insulation capabilities even when completely soaked (the reason why sailors/fishermen wear wool).
both of these are wrong. the second one is just flat out a myth. a common one but a myth. the first one i think you're mixing up with the reality behind the myth you're perpetuating.
- wool does not retain ANY insulative properties when saturated
- wool DOES retain MORE of its insulative properties than other fibers when partially saturated
- you probably got the 30% thing from the fact that its around 70% saturated when you stop getting any warmth from a wool garment.
common myth but stop perpetuating it. if you were on an outdoors not a fashion forum you could legitimately get some retard killed posting that.

>Fourthly wool actually generates heat when wet through a chemical reaction.
no, it does not.
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wool fucking owns but don't misrepresent it or sell it as something its not.
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>>18188216
wool has a major problem as rain gear: it only works in a specific climate.
read my post if you've literally never gone camping before (sorry pedo's and single fatherhood killed boy scouts for your generation)
you ideally do not want your INSULATION and your WEATHER PROOFING to be the same garment.
there's a reason every military and everyone who does outdoors shit uses a layering system not single catch-all jackets.
using wool as your rain gear you're stuck with the choice of both weatherproofing and insulation or neither.
what if its raining heavily on a day that isn't so cold?
extrapolate that to a survival situation -- what if you need to stay dry, but the wool jacket is too warm and makes you sweat = death?
a coarse wool jacket makes for excellent rain gear -- in a specific temperature range.
a wool sweater and a waxed canvas jacket (natural) or a outdry jacket and a grid fleece sweater (synthetic) will ass clap it on versatility, wearability, and performance every time. most importantly how many days of the year its wearable.
get the wool coat AFTER you have a basic ass layering system to cover all weather. they're nice in winter but not versatile.
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>>18187143
Thanks, this seems pretty great.

I'm suddenly having second thoughts about buying wool because I already have a good coat for when it's actually cold, but still want something that looks like this chore coat >>18187128 but is more versatile. Any recs for when it's maybe 50 degrees and I don't need to layer it up and can just wear over a shirt?
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>>18188871
Pic related is a Taylor Itch coat I was considering but I'd like to potentially throw this over short sleeves and not have to wear it for a while to break it in a little to do that. I'd be fine with cotton so long as it had that same texture
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>>18188871
>Any recs for when it's maybe 50 degrees and I don't need to layer it up
any wool thick enough to be weatherproof is gonna be too warm when its 50 out. waxed canvas or leather for that.
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>>18188898
Doesn't even have to be weatherproof or wool just be dark gray and have texture to it
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>>18188801
Thanks for the knowledge dump. Is there such thing as wearable wool jackets for the spring/summer? I know there's those tropical wool suits and in general that it can be woven to be lightweight, but won't that make it scratchy as fuck? I know it's retarded to be wanting to wear wool when it's hot out anyway, it's more for when the weather changes suddenly in shitholes like Maryland and you're stuck wearing a jacket.
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>Is there such thing as wearable wool jackets for the spring/summer?
felted wool that grants weatherproofness? no.
really thin knit wool that just insulates? yes they're nice to throw on in the evening after sun goes down. unwearable daytime when its hot out.
cotton is much better suited for this. what's your reason for wanting a wool garment in the first place? next time start with those reasons then extrapolate the best textile for the garment, your mentality is backwards.
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>>18189074
oh didn't see this. thinner tweed jackets are wearable in spring and are textured and commonly come in gray. summer nah too hot for that shit. you want something non insulating.



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