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Hygiene/skincare General #12 post your routine edition (again)

Previous >>18191053

Post your routine, holy grails and strategies to shave balls. Share experience about skincare products and your skin issues

FAQ:
Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips: http://pastebin.com/5QEQgMUp
How to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Why you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face: http://pastebin.com/Ujf2x9M6
How to improve your skin tone through diet: http://pastebin.com/epLqSbEQ
Studies on how diary and sugars create acne: http://pastebin.com/0H5gag01
Dark circles around the eyes: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids:
http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen:
http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles:
http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html
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>>18227298
>prominent sebaceous glands (chicken skin) under eyes
My plan to reverse this:
>do a gentle pass over when cleansing since aggression won't help and the skin is sensitive
>retinol
>do a second pass with moisturizer on the area after letting my first, full-face pass set a bit

Would exfoliation help? I'm thinking of incorporating AHAs.
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did you know?
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>>18227310
That lotion sucks though
At least for me... it doesn't work
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>>18227298
what should i look for in a daily sunscreen?
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>>18227319
1. Full UVA/UVB protection (goes without saying)

2. AVOID irritating filters such as Oxybenzone and Octocrylene. I'm also not a fan of Homosalate.

3. LOOK FOR modern, non-irritating, highly stable filters such as:
>Tinosorb S, Tinosorb M (both broad-spectrum, M is broader but flatter, S utterly obliterates UVB and has good UVA protection),
>Uvinul A (what avobenzone wishes it could be, obliterates UVA
>Uvinul T (obliterates UVB but almost nothing for UVA)
>Mexoryl SX, Mexoryl SM (UVA and UVB respectively, though both have some broad-spectrum action). These are patented by L'Oreal, so if you don't like L'Oreal for whatever reason, take note.

4. Finally, look for moisturizing and nourishing ingredients. I personally use the Round Lab Birch Juice moisturizing sunscreen. I has good stuff such as:
>Hyaluronic Acid
>Niacinamide
>Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)
>Vitamin E (Tocopherol)
It also has a decent mix of emollients so it works well as a moisturizer.

INCIDecoder is your friend if you're ever not sure about a given product or ingredient.
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>>18226724
>>18227152
Maybe try doing that thing where you put a damp warm towel on the area you're gonna shave before you begin.
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>>18227971
I forgot to mention that when I shave, it's immediately after taking a shower. Your tip is great too though.
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>>18227397
Guys, best sunscreens?
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>>18227397
>>18228249
i took the jewpill and bought this amazon version of round lab birch juice because i'm a poor
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>>18228375
>assumed you said "jewpill" because "Solimo" sounds like "Schlomo"
>took me like 15 minutes to realize you were just making a cheap jew joke
Am I redpilled or bluepilled?
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I have seb derm and probably undiagnosed Rosacea and on top of that I'm a ginger, so my skin is often splotchy and ruddy, always looks kind of inflamed like I just got out of the shower and I'd just really like it to be an even tone and white instead of reddish. What can I do? Is the answer azelaic acid?
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>>18227298
Should everyone be double-cleansing?
>don't wear makeup but do wear moisturizer and sunscreen on top
>slightly dry skin, do have some areas where pores are quite visible
Also this is a retarded question but can a cleanser still be "oil based" if the first ingredient is water?
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>>18228563
Example product I am looking at: Glow Recipe Avocado Ceramide Barrier Cleanser.
The first ingredient is water, but its texture is creamy and it contains avocado oil, ceramides, and a few other emollients. Would this be a good first-pass cleanser for a double cleanse?
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looking for a serum to replace this one. any reccs?
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>>18228906
In the hype about this product legit
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>>18229020
i've been using for a couple yrs and it does make your skin glow. basically all it does is make your skin hold moisture more
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>>18227298
This accutane isn't working, brehs. I need to go back to salicylic acid + retinoid cream
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>>18229097
You could try vitamin C (antioxidant, skin-brightening) serum plus moisturizer. Look for ingredients in your moisturizer like Hyaluronic Acid to moisturize intensely, and look for occlusive ingredients to trap that moisture (if there's not enough moisture in the atmosphere, moisturizer can pull moisture from lower skin layers and lose it to evaporation if you don't use a moisturizer that forms a good enough barrier). Look for stuff like Shea Butter and Jojoba Oil.
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>>18227298
>go on camping trip
>get tan
>skin is still noticeably more tan than pre-camping, weeks later, despite making sure to apply copious amounts of SPF 50+ daily
Bros... am I going to be Clint Eastwood mode by 30?
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>>18229123
Omfg
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>>18228563
should double cleanse only at night to get rid of the sunscreen. Twice a day will dry out your face i think
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>>18229163
That's what I'm thinking.
I think I might actually get micellar water for my double-cleanse and use the Glow Recipe as my daily driver cleanser.
Ultimately my plan is longevity. I don't want to stress my skin out.
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>>18229123
>This accutane isn't working, brehs
Doesn't it take like a month or more to clear out the shit that's already started in your skin?
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is adapalene a viable alternative to tretinoin? its alot easier for me to access than tret so im considering just trying it instead
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>>18227303
high percentage AHA stimulates collagen production
or maybe it was just glycolic acid, dont remember
>>18227316
nta but this lotion even though is fragrance free it smells really bad
>>18227319
whatever other anon said + no aclohol and 50spf minimum
>>18228249
the ones that fit your skin best
for me its some by mi (chemical one)
boj relief rice was okay too
>>18228375
didnt know amazon makes kbeauty skincare dupes
>>18228562
>Is the answer azelaic acid?
usually yes but i would visit a derm
>>18228563
>Should everyone be double-cleansing
not really
i do before exfoliating or when i feel extra greasy with sunscreen on
>Also this is a retarded question but can a cleanser still be "oil based" if the first ingredient is water?
not an expert on oil based cleansers but they are usually oil mostly + surfactant and whenever they enocunter water they start foaming a little
so probably no unless there is some magical formulation but i doubt that
>>18228597
>Glow Recipe Avocado Ceramide Barrier Cleanser.
definetely not
>texture is creamy
yeah thats not oil
it contains avocado oil for moisturizing and nourishing properties
>>18229123
good luck anon
>>18229143
wear a hat
>>18229163
probs true and if it wont dry you out your skin will overproduce sebum to compensate -> you will get oily quicker
>>18229490
yes it is
many people will say no because "muh tret is superior" but adapalene works
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Will 5% benzoyl peroxide applied for 5 minutes every evening bleach my eyebrows over time?
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>>18227319
>>18227397
>>18228249
I use picrel and i'm mostly happy with it, it doesn't feel like a sunscreen, very light.

I'd like your expert advice on it.
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>>18229699
>not an expert on oil based cleansers but they are usually oil mostly + surfactant and whenever they enocunter water they start foaming a little
Yeah I did a bit more research. I post questions here because it's unironically often faster and more useful than a google search lol.
For anyone retarded like me: oil-based cleansers will be marketed as "cleansing oils". Its primary medium for holding the ingredients is oil rather than water, hence the name. Stuff like the Glow Recipe is just a hydrating water-based cleanser. Water-based is a broad term including lotion and "milk" cleansers.
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I cleanse and moisturize twice a day with just some basic Cetaphil, but I'm always shiny come mid day. Should I be using toner or something?
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>>18230076
maybe that's just your personality you crazy diamond, don't fight it
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>>18229097
Is there a reason you're moving off of it then?
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>>18230076
Try getting a cleanser with 2% salicylic acid and using that in the morning.
Or get a 2% salicylic acid toner (make sure it's free of alcohol) and put some on a cotton pad and rub your face in the morning after washing with your regular Cetaphil and before you put on moisturizer
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>>18227298
Anyone have advice on electric shavers for your face?
I generally use a hair trimmer to get the bulk of it off then a disposable razor, but I once used a rotary razor and loved the convince of not having to use shaving cream. The problem is it almost always cut up my neck.
I don't have my old rotary razor anymore so I am looking to buy a new one. From what I have read and watched I might try a foil razor.
My budget is under $60.
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>>18225977
>>18221948
>post routine & products
I shave before showering, using "gillette moisturizing shave gel"
(I don't think this is the issue, since I get pimples in areas I don't shave, and I've also used other products with no difference)
I use the "cerave renewing sa cleanser" in the shower some days
I moisturize with "cerave moisturizing cream for normal to dry skin" afterwards (right after toweling off). I've also tried "cetaphil moisturizing lotion" with the same acne result, but that stuff felt too greasy.
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>>18229801
I've got this CeraVe cream too, works fine except for my oily areas where I use pic rel.
Got pic rel because the UV protector (bemotrizinol) molecule is so large that it doesn't get absorbed by the skin. I plan to eventually start using CeraVe PM cream + pic rel for all of my face when my CeraVe AM cream runs out.
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>>18230140
Just looking for any better alternatives. Also people in Korea, where the product is from, don't use it much anymore
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I'm confused about something, when I'm washing my face with a cleanser, the whiteheads are NOT supposed to pop?
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Is hand moisturizer special in any way or can I just use body moisturizer?
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>>18230759
>Is hand moisturizer special in any way
Usually it's obnoxiously heavily scented and sometimes it's really thick
>can I just use body moisturizer?
Yeah that's what i do, works great
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>>18227298
Whole-body skincare: what should I incorporate?
Currently I shower once daily and I use a moisturizing body wash. I also apply sunscreen to my arms daily since they're usually exposed.
Anything I should think about? Maybe moisturizing?
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>>18231389
>Anything I should think about? Maybe moisturizing?
Yeah get a big bottle of lotion and put on a thin layer on your whole body while your skin is still moist from the shower somewhere between once and 4 times a week depending on time of year and your skin type.
A lightweight lotion is better for hot weather and a regular lotion for winter, don't do a heavy thick lotion you will feel greasy all day
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any recs for wavy male hair care? this is what i've been using so far
>garnier fructis hair fillers bonding inner fiber repair hair treatment
>garnier fructis pure clean clarifying conditioner & shampoo
>garnier fructis curl nourish moisturizing conditioner & shampoo
>miss jessie's leave in condish
>la looks extreme sport hair gel
i'm moderately satisfied with this stuff so far, but still trying out more things to see if there's anything better
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>>18228906
peach slices sells some snail mucin stuff
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>>18231519
Just go do the curly girl method.
https://www.reddit.com/r/curlyhair/comments/8klm9t/new_curlies_start_here/
It works absolutely great for most people with curly hair.
It's mostly about changing up your wash/condition routine and avoiding various things in shampoos and other hair products that cause buildup or overly strip and dry out your hair. But you don't need to buy expensive products there are pretty easily accessible and cheap options.
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any good body sunscreens (comes in a large quantity) that doesn't have a scent? I used pic rel and it's perfect besides the smell, which isn't bad, but I'd prefer something scentless so it won't clash with other stuff.
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Do you guys put on sunscreen just before heading out or in the morning every time? I'm work from home so some days I won't leave my house until after work, seems pointless to put it on in the morning. If you leave your house several times a day, are you reapplying each time? It seems most sunscreen works for 80 minutes, but not sure if that is since it is put on or just 80 minutes in the sun before it breaks down.
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>>18232400
The general recommendation is reapply every 2 hours for chemical sunscreens (I think regardless of sun exposure but not sure on that), idk how many people are actually doing that though. If you're an office worker/wfh and only out for a small amount of time prob not needed.

Unless you're right near a window and have the sun beaming down on you, it's probably not needed to apply at home. I personally just apply before I go out instead of as soon as I get up, since I also don't leave home as soon as I wake up.
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is lasering ur beard area with a ipl machine worth it?
I've been using it for my body and its working ok, but im on the fence regarding my face bc I really dont want my beard hairs to be gone forever.
I have a full beard like picrel which I know some guys would love to have but I usually shave it anyway. I've heard that laser makes your face thinner and jawline more defined bc the hair follicles would be gone, that's why I'm looking to do it.
Anyone experienced in this or can give advice?
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>>18231755
i'm aware, the pure clean shampoo and la looks styling gel are from the guide
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>>18232406
>The general recommendation is reapply every 2 hours for chemical sunscreens (I think regardless of sun exposure but not sure on that), idk how many people are actually doing that though. If you're an office worker/wfh and only out for a small amount of time prob not needed.
This is another drawback of the terrible old chemicals that are allowed to be used in USA sunscreen. They were never that good and the fda keeps decreasing the amount that is allowed to be used as they keep finding new ways they are bad for you.
With euro/jap/korean/Mexican sunscreens with modern chemical filters one application gives you a solid 8+ hours of protection and you only need to reapply more often if you are actually standing in direct full sunlight for multiple hours straight.
With physical (zinc) sunscreens i think you only need to reapply if you swim or sweat a bunch or otherwise remove the sunscreen that's on your skin somehow.
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>>18232491
My bad. I think that beyond getting all the good info from the curly girl stuff there isn't much else to do but experiment with different styling products or leave in conditioners and trying to find what works best for the way you want to style your hair. If you want to improve your hair heath / quality further you can look into adding foods to your diet that support hair growth and strength, or i guess supplements but most hair skin and nails type supplements are basically a multivitamin with a huge dose of biotin and they really only make a big difference for people with deficiencies, if you diet isn't total shit or you already take a regular multivitamin they won't make much difference and the huge dose of biotin can cause acne.
You could get one of those curl reactivating sprays for second day styling or try out using a curl cream type product instead of gel.
Anyway if you haven't tried the sqish to condish method you should, it really helps accentuate the curls.
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Just turned 35. I'm frequently mistaken for being in my 20s so I guess something is working, but lately feel my skin is getting redder and drier faster. Here's my routine:
AM
>wash face with cold water
>ceramide lotion
>SPF 50 biore uv moisturizer
>niacinamide primer + CC cream + light powder
PM
>micelar water makeup remover
>wash face with "moisturizing" wash
>vitamin E oil serum
>coQ10 moisturizer
>use cerave exfoliator every monday
Any suggestions for stuff to add? Combo skin.
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Routine:
AM:
>cleanser
>vitamin C
>moisturizer
>sunscreen

PM:
>double cleanse with micellar water and my normal cleanser
>retinol
>moisturizer

My question: how much hyaluronic acid is too much? It is present in all of these products except my moisturizer.
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>>18232818
Forgot to mention:
dry skin type, late 20s male.
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>>18232818
>>18232820
HA won't do much for you unless taken as a pill. In this skin rejuvenation study it performed on par with placebo. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7716741/
Wouldn't worry about there being too much but I also wouldn't be too hype about it.
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>>18232810
The ordinary multi peptide + copper peptides serum in the am.
Some kind of hydrating toner in am and pm, hada labo goku jyun, PURITO Oat-in Silky Toner, MISSHA Time Revolution The First Treatment Essence RX, COSRX Snail Mucin 96% Power Repairing Essence or peach slices snail rescue, MANYO FACTORY Bifida Biome Ampoule Toner
Ive also heard good things about The Inkey List Polyglutamic Acid Serum. It's supposed to actually do the things that people claim about hyaluronic acid serums in terms of noticable hydration.
Put it on as the first step after cleansing.
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>>18232856
>Put it on as the first step after cleansing.
Meant to say this about the hydrating toners i listed. Calling them toners seems wrong really because they are the opposite of the astringent American toners with alcohol and other harsh stuff that are designed to remove oil. The Japanese / Korean hydrating toners are more like big bottles of hydrating serum.
I just dump some in my palm and use my other hand to dab it onto my face instead of using a cotton pad. Feels less wasteful.
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>>18232856
Thanks for the suggestions, but lots of Asian products there. What is a good site to buy from that is not amazon/ebay? There are no places around me that sell Asian skin care products.
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>>18232889
YesStyle and StyleVana are both good options to get Asian skincare.
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>start lifting weights again after 5 months
>acne comes back with a vengeance
I'm gonna kms
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>red under tones

My skin is good despite this. please help.
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Is it worth trying to get rid of all this keratosis pillaris on my legs? I have some on my bicep area too but it's nothing severe. Any tips on what to do?
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>>18233065
Are you remembering to shower right after the gym?
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>>18233175
>Is it worth trying to get rid of all this keratosis pillaris on my legs?
I have KP on my upper arms, you can treat it and make it mostly not visible but it requires constant maintenance.
Get a 12% lactic acid lotion, aka ammonium lactate lotion and apply it everyday when you get out of the shower after your dry off and while your skin is still damp.
Then 2-4 times a week in the shower GENTLY rub the parts of your skin that have kp with a washcloth or loofah or something in a circular motion. Don't scrub hard or it will irritate the shit out of your skin.
Keep those two things up and your KP will mostly stay under control but it comes back as soon as you stop.
You could also look into using a 15%-20% Azelaic Acid cream as that is supposed to help with excessive keratin but it's expensive and or prescription so it seems really pricey to apply to a large area of your body like your thighs.
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>>18232889
Most of the stuff i listed has offical brand storefronts on Amazon.
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>>18233175
it's not particularly hard just use a chemical exfoliant with lactic acid or salicylic acid, you can find them in a lot of acne washes or lotions for rough and bumpy skin. just pick whatever product is the most convenient for you to use, you will need to stick with it to see and maintain any results
cerave sa cleanser bar, paula's choice bha, cerave sa lotion, neutrogena body clear wash, neutrogena stubborn body acne wash, amlactin lotion, gold bond rough & bumpy lotion, etc.
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>>18232810
>>18232889
Some US brand hydrating toners
BYOMA Hydrating Milky Toner
Thayers Milky Hydrating Face Toner with Snow Mushroom
Peach Slices Snail Rescue
Paula's Choice Skin Recovery Calming Toner
Good Molecules Hyaluronic Acid Boosting Essence
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>>18233202
Yes ofc
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Is Aluminum really that bad as an ingredient?
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>>18233912
Only if you actually have an actual sensitivity to it or get contact dermatitis from it. Otherwise it's fine and brands are trying to scare you into buying their "vegan gluten free organic preservative-free" expensive shit.
t. my dermatologist
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>>18233912
Deodorant with aluminum does not cause Alzheimer's if that's what you're asking
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>>18233912
i use natural potassium alum deodorant in crystal and its best shit i ever used. armpits stopped being itchy after retarded 48h deodorants. it also costs pennies
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>>18233215
Thanks. I'll give it a go. I think as a guy it doesn't really bother me since I'm not fat or anything and otherwise I'm conventionally pretty attractive, but sorta figured that it probably isn't too big of a deal to minimize either. I'll try out some lactic acid lotion. Do you think I need sunscreen or a heavy moisturizer if I use a cream like that on my arms and legs? For the most part it's on parts that don't see much sun anyways
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>>18234543
Nevermind says it moisturizes. I ordered a bottle of amlactin. Read a lot of people have good luck with it.
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>>18234543
>Do you think I need sunscreen
Topical acids can increase photosensitivity but the ammonium lactate lotions use a neutralized acid so it's not anywhere near as strong as 12% sounds.
Something to be aware of it guess but it hasn't been a problem for me since it's on my upper arms and thighs and they are usually covered.
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You know how fin and min are more efficacious when taken orally?
How come skincare staples like vitamin B3 and vitamin C don't work better when they go systemic in the body?
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>>18232481
Extreme damage to skin.
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Skincare supplements that actually work
BioSil - a combination of choline and slilica that stimulates your body to produce more collagen. Only works if your diet isn't dogshit, i guess you could take a collagen powder with this if you can't be assed to eat a solid amount of animal protein daily. This stuff does what people think collagen powders do. You could also supplement a bioavailable silica at about 10mg a day and some form of bioavailable choline instead of buying the branded supplement but it's not that overpriced if you shop around. Best when taken long term, 6+ months minimum or indefinitely.
Glutathione - a powerful antioxidant. Shown to lighten skin color with extended use, all the kpop stars are getting weekly injections of this stuff. Terrible bioavailability when taken orally so you need to take specific forms or bioavailable complexes. Dosage should be 500-1000mg of liposomal L-Glutahione or 200-300mg of S-Acetyl L-Glutathione per day. Careful with this one there are some extremely low quality bunk supplements on the market. Anything suspiciously cheap compared to other brands is sus. Pure Therapro Rx S-Acetyl Glutathione GOLD 300mg is probably the best supplement on the market but fuck it's expensive and needs to be dosed on an empty stomach at least 30 minutes before eating for best results. There are some cheaper viable options like the codage Liposomal L-Glutathione in loose powder form and S-Acetyl Glutathione in standard capsules instead of acid resistant ones. Injections are the gold standard but they cost $200-$500 per.
Continued...
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>>18234874
....
Superoxide Dismutase - This is an extremely powerful antioxidant that massively reduces oxidative damage to your skin from things like UV exposure and general age related damage. This has been clinically shown to help treat vitiligo which is caused by increased oxidative stress in areas of the skin. Anecdotally regular users claim that it massively decreases their skins sensitivity to UV and causes sunburns to heal at a very accelerated rate.
This is another one that has essentially no bioavailability when taken orally so it needs to be complexed with some delivery mechanism so it will actually reach the small intestine and enter the bloodstream. Because of this most SOD supplements don't do anything. But there is a new patented complex that uses fenugreek fiber to make it bioavailable called Glisodin. A number of brands make supplements using Glisodin so you don't have to buy the expensive version from the manufacturer. The dosage used in studies was 4 capsules per day for 4 weeks and then 2 capsules per day after that.
Less directly related and more of a general health thing but eat fish or take fish oil capsules, look for one that uses the triglyceride form or ideally r-tg. Avoid the ones that use an ethyl ester form of fish oil as they make you burp fish flavor and have poor availability.
Also eat fucking eggs. Ideally 3-4 a day. They have an incredible amount of different beneficial compounds including a bunch of choline. This means you can skip the bioSil, and just eat eggs and take a silicon supplement.
>>18234874
>slilica
*Silicon
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>>18234897
>slilica
>*Silicon
Same difference. Most of the supplements will say silica on the front and silicon on the supplement facts.
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People always go on about collagen but never about elastin
How do I elastinmaxx
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>>18227298
>be baldfag
>do shave cope
>scalp is oilier than face by a mile
To be clear: I am NOT dragging baldgen issues here. I am asking this PURELY as a skincare concern.
My main question is: should I pretend now that my entire head is an extension of my face? I already treat my neck as such, is there any reason my scalp should be different?
Second, aside from the fact that DHT doesn't affect it, is beard hair really significantly different from scalp hair? Obviously healthy face translates to healthy beard. I have enough scalp coverage left that if I decided to actually commit to a regrowth regimen I could probably get back to presentable levels and would like to leave that option open.
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>>18234914
Polyphenols like PGG & EGCG may help. It's an in vitro study but interesting
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33766446/
Liposomal vitamin c taken orally (vit c is is also needed for collagen production)
Micro needling
Eating a bunch of animal based protein
Using retinoids (this is probably the most studied and conclusive way)
Occasional limited brief UV exposure (being outside with sunscreen on for 10 minutes is probably plenty)
Wearing sunscreen helps protect from loss of elastin
Topical peptides might help especially copper peptides
Topical vitamin c might reduce elastin but the studies that suggest that are pretty shit and done on animal bits so it's hard to say if that applies to humans.
You can buy fish elastin powder but like collagen powders its broken down into it's constituent amino acids so this really only makes a difference with people with dietary deficiency's. Tho some of the brands selling it claim there are studies that show it increases elastin production in dermal fibroblasts (probably aslo done in vitro)
Major theme seems to be the best way to elasin max is to do everything you can to keep from losing what you already have.
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>>18234932
>scalp is oilier than face by a mile
Shampoo your scalp with salicylic acid shampoo to reduce excess oil.
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>>18234933
>Liposomal vitamin c taken orally
NTA but does it necessarily need to be oral? Or if I select a topical formulation specifically designed to penetrate deeply, would that work? I'm pretty sure there are liposomal serums out there.
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Supplements that actually improve skin
Almost forgot probiotics. Probiotics are shown to reduce sebum production in people with acne and improve other markers of skin health.
The problem with most probiotics is that they don't actually colonize the gut long term, so consistent supplementation is needed to maintain results.
No easy fix for that but there are a few new generation products that might be more effective or have more long term effects.
First is PreforPro, this is called a prebiotic but it's really a new class of product. It's made up of isolated bacteriophages that target unwanted microorganisms in the gut, they actually kill specific strains of yeast bacteria and microbes that are considered "bad" gut flora. This causes the nutrients held in the microorganisms to be released back into the gut where they can act as food for beneficial microorganisms. Best paired with a probiotic.
The other major product of interest is spore form probiotics. These show promising results in promoting long term changes to gut microbiota and encourage other beneficial bacteria to colonize the gut. They are apparently so effective the first few days of use can a bit intense as there is a massive dieoff of bad gut bacteria and it's replaced with beneficial strains. Apparently taking doses every few days at first avoids any discomfort.
Gut health is massively important in overall health and having a healthy balanced got microbiome can make a huge difference for people with acne and various skin conditions.
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>>18234938
I genuinely don't know what the absorption characteristics of vit c are when applied to the skin. Im not sure if it enters the bloodstream or just the skin cells it's applied to or if it just sits on the surface.
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>>18234943
Fascinating information thank you
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>>18234946
Yeah it's amazing how many studies have been done in the last decade or two that show a correlation between poor gut health and all kind of problems, chronic inflammation, depression, unhealthy skin and hair, loss of mental sharpness or focus. There are also some interesting lines of research tying poor oral health to things like arterial plaque formation and heart disease.
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2 weeks before and after using only skin 47 serum twice daily
Is it working? Any other products I should use? Maybe moisturizer..? (I'm not knowledgeable)
Top is before and bottom is after if you can't tell...
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>>18235354
Best topicals for acne:
>salicylic acid
>benzoyl peroxide
>tretinoin

Basic routine:
AM
>splash with water or wash with a cleanser if your face with very oily
>moisturizer
>SPF

PM
>cleanser
>treatment (sa, bp, or tret)
>moisturizer
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>>18227298
I use retinoids in the evenings and my skin looks youthful and perfect. Nothing else works
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I got dry curly hair and I have been a dirty NEET for most of my life. Got some questions:
> How often should I wash my hair with shampoo/conditioner/etc.
> How often should I wash my hair without shampoo
> How often should I shower?
> When I shower, should I get my hair wet during every shower?
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>>18235383
Just do the curly girl method.
They have a wiki and google doc explaining everything linked on the reddit.
How often you should do each of those things depends on a ton of different factors and you need to figure out what works best for your hair.
But very generally, shampoo every 3 days, wash with conditioner if you need to wash in-between shampoos.
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>>18234550
good luck i hated that stuff, it has a weird smell
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>>18229781
wouldnt colouring be easier? then you can do it once every 3-4 weeks
BP would probably wear off the color faster though
>>18229801
nta but good stuff. was thinking about either this or the ISNTREE Hyaluronic Acid Water Sun Gel as my next sunscreen
>>18230076
to regulate sebum production long term you should use retinoids and something that contains niacinamide (like moisturizer)
salicylic acid works too but had no luck on my skin unfortunately (works on my hair/scalp tho)
>>18230315
maybe your skin simply doesnt like the cerave and cetaphil formula
look for something else, there is plenty of choice. skincare is often trial and error but keep looking and you will find something that suits your skin. make sure its oil free and contains no fragrance. there were some good recommendations last 2 threads from avene or aveeno i think (something with oat iirc)
its also possible its due to niacinamide but the cerave cream does not have it i think
and lastly if it happens regardless of moisturizer, maybe its the cleanser/wash eg allergy to one of the ingredients (eg coconut derived agents)
>>18230752
they pop under pressure
>>18230759
i get my hands wet and use a heavier moisturizer
>>18231389
there is doctorly video on youtube about body skincare but they recommended retinol body moisturizer or wash which was completely retarded imo
but yeah body lotion on damp skin is great
>>18232400
checked
i work from home too and i only apply before going out or if i decide to work on balcony or work on my plants by the window and outside
>If you leave your house several times a day, are you reapplying each time?
depends whats the amount of time between going out
more than 4 hours, probably reapply
> It seems most sunscreen works for 80 minutes
i think there are too many variables to say this (filters, sweat, temperature, ph of the body)
the 80 minutes will soon become 60 and then 40 just so you use more product and buy another bottle
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>>18232799
checked
>solid 8+ hours of protection
nice
>>18232810
>skin is getting redder and drier faster
its either simply because of summer if you are in northern hemisphere OR check if your sunscreen contains alcohol. some of the biore ones do. if yes, stop using it and get something else
consider slugging with vaseline/petrolatum jelly or using heavier moisturizer in pm routine
>>18232818
hyaluronic acid is commonly included in many products because it enhances the absorption of other ingredients into the skin. however, the concentration may not always be high enough to produce visible results on its own.
but make sure to moisturize enough so HA can take water from that and not from your skin (it can actually dry you out especially if you live in dry/arid area)
>>18233065
make sure you use moisturizer with niacinamide after washing your face. use lukewarm water only
if these wont help its hormones probably
>>18233087
your skin is red?
post routine & products
>>18234874
>>18234897
saved
>>18234933
>>18234943
thats a lot of research
thanks for contributing to the thread anon
>>18234966
checked
one of my docs told me that apparently small and large intestine is directly connected to brain. headaches often start due to bad food (i actually tested this with KFC and got headache 1,5h later 2 out of 3 times. for mcdonalds it was 50:50 chance but i dont eat that shit anymore fortunately
>>18235354
id say it didnt do much
which one is it, looks like there are two?
one contains azelaic acid and the other has nothing against acne really
get moisturizer with niacinamide like cerave pm and use after the serum
also check out >>18235379 or azelaic acid cream
>>18235381
which retinoid?
>>18235383
yeah follow the curly method as its the whole package of information and will answer all your questions
today i co-washed for the first time and it seems okay, hoping to get rid of dandruff as i have it only first 24 hours after using a shampoo (probably too stronk)
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>>18235872
>today i co-washed for the first time and it seems okay,
I haven't been dealing with dandruff lately but ive had good luck with co washing. I use product in my hair so i have to wash it out every night and just washing with conditioner along with using a water soluble stying product has been a godsend. I usually use shampoo every 3 days and just co-wash the other days.
Really annoying how much i sucked at finding info about this shit before i found the curly girl stuff. For a while i thought co-wash was specific products named co-washes and not just washing your hair with conditioner.
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>>18235872
>one of my docs told me that apparently small and large intestine is directly connected to brain.
Yup the gut-brain axis is huge.
For example i always thought supplementing GABA is silly because it can't cross the blood brain barrier. More recent research has shown that some can maybe get through if you take enough. More interestingly its been found that the gut has a whole bunch of GABA receptors and so people experimenting on themselves have observed that taking 500mg to 1g of GABA has a noticeable calming effect and it's quite likely this is entirely produced by interaction between the GABA receptors in the gut and the gut-brain axis.
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How do you find out if something you’re using is breaking you out?
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how do I clean the dark spots in my face?
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Someone recommended me this 2 weeks ago to fix my eyelashes that I during my teens would just pull out and I noticed that it started to look horrible. 5 days in and my lashes looks fucking amazing. Can't even imagine what they are going to look like in another weeks time.

Thanks anon.
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>>18227298
The only thing you need for skincare as a man is drinking lots of water, staying away from sugar (to prevent pimples), eat a balanced diet with lots of vitamins, minerals, proteins and collagen; keep your UV exposure to minimum but at the same time get lots of sunlight during the early hours when the sunlight isn't very strong (for Vitamin D synthesis), and especially don't fap too much. That's it. You don't need any gay cosmetics.
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Is there anything I can put on my actual eyelids? Everyone always say not to put anything there, I assume because it will get into your eye.
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>>18236888
You can try a light fragrance free gel moisturizer.
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>>18236822
Post ur skin
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>>18237305
I've done that before and it only got be banned. So, I can tell you what to google/duckduckgo. Look up Blue Waffle, and no it is not the food item. You will know it when you see it.
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Shaving daily has affected my neck and I just noticed how bad under my chin looks. Im practicing better shaving techniques, and looking to switch to a sensitive skin shaving cream. What else can I do to recover my chin and below to a presentable level? Im washing my face before bed from now on as hopefully it’ll help.
Sort of similar but, I use cerave products. I had to buy the hydrating facial cleanser when the store ran out of foaming cleanser. The hydrating cleanser burns almost 8 out of 10 times, but the facial cleanser works fine. Why is that?
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>have tiny zit on upper lip
>wipe mouth after eating
>tiny zit spontaneously breaks and bleeds

WHY
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>>18238633
Unirronicaly have a thinner skin. Exfoliate more.
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I'm a guy with normal to slightly oily skin, just recently started taking care of my skin...

Morning:
>sunscreen

Night:
>cleanser
>toner (if not using exfoliator)
>retinol or exfoliator or neither
>moisturizer (separate moisturizer near eyes)

Any tips? The retinol hasn't been as rough on me as people online said it would be, using 5% neutrogena night cream. How long do people take to put on their routine at night? The cleanser takes me forever.
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Does all collagen powder taste like shit or is there some that actually taste good or at least like nothing?
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>>18227298
Would people think I'm weird if I carry a parasol for sun protection? Should I just stick with a hat and long sleeves?
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>>18238958
Yes because that is fucking weird bro
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>>18238943
What toner are you using?
If you are going with retinols be careful about astringent toners with alcohol or other harsh cleansing ingredients as it can be a rough combo with the retinol.
>The retinol hasn't been as rough on me as people online said it would be,
That's good desu
Move up to a bottle of this after you finish the retinol night cream and see if it's still easy, just get some regular night cream without retinol to use along side the retinol serum.
If that's easy too then just buy tretinoin .025% from skinorac or some other overseas pharmacy site and start using that.
>>18238958
I wear a upf50 boonie hat if im going to be out in the sun for hours. It looks stupid but it works. Carrying a sun umbrella is weird as fuck unless you are an asian woman.
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>>18235828
>maybe your skin simply doesnt like the cerave and cetaphil formula
Ok, I bought a tube of the cetaphil cream (I was previously using the lotion). I think this is what I had years ago but then I accidentally bought the lotion instead, which doesn't do enough for my face. Maybe this cream will work, idk. My grocery store doesn't have a huge selection...
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>>18238946
>Does all collagen powder taste like shit or is there some that actually taste good or at least like nothing?
It all has a bit of taste to it. Some brands have less taste then others, you can try a few different brands and see if you find one you like. Buy some of those single serving drink mix packets and add one when you mix the collagen to cover the flavor. Or buy a flavored collagen powder. Or mix it in coffee or a smoothie and you won't be able to taste it.
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>cleanses your face, hands and your whole body with a big congealed block of moisturizing lotion
You don't need more.
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forgot pic
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>>18238958
If it's a guy I would think he has some kind of debilitating skin condition if he has to shield himself from the sun all the time.

I live next to a guy who constantly wears a hoodie and a face mask and sunglasses, I've never seen any part of his body, he even does it in the summer (as in right now) and I suspect he's on the spectrum, maybe he takes the no sun thing very seriously.
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>>18235872
>OR check if your sunscreen contains alcohol.
Thanks. It does in fact, 2 different ones. Denatured and cetyl alcohol. I was gifted a Japanese sunscreen by my sister a few days ago that only has ethanol in it and I think there's a difference. Oddly enough, I was also suggested I try a mild retinol cream and noticed I am waking up with less redness on my face as well. I have also began using a hydrating toner so I don't know what the difference maker is, but I am happy. Guess my routine needed a mix-up after all!
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>>18239166
>coffee
Caffeine inhibits prolidase, an enzyme required for collagen synthesis. You want to consume your collagen at least 3 hours after your last cup of coffee.
Everything else you've said is spot-on. Add the collagen to a smoothie.
I personally use the Momentous collagen, which tastes like water with a slight hint of rice, and I just chug it with no difficulty.
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>>18227298
Is there a single mineral sunscreen on the market that doesn't leave a noticeable white cast when you do the proper two-finger application? I'm fucking white and every one I've tried still made me look like a zombie.
In a similar vein, is there a single chemical sunscreen on the market that doesn't make you look greasy, doesn't roll off the instant you break a slight sweat, and uses only modern filters? I feel like this shouldn't be hard, just make a matte moisturizer and add the filters, right?
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>>18239197
I have been using the sensitive skin (unscented) dove bars as my shower "soap" for years and it fucking rocks. It's cheap as shit compared to the 5 dollar a pop non soap cleansing bars from brands like CeraVe, it gets my skin clean without drying it out at all. I don't use it on my face but most people probably could with no issues.
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>>18239239
>In a similar vein, is there a single chemical sunscreen on the market that doesn't make you look greasy, doesn't roll off the instant you break a slight sweat, and uses only modern filters?
Hada labo uv perfect gel (formerly uv white gel)
Cosmetically elegant, no shine or white cast, no greasy feeling, doesn't dry out skin, uses all the latest in modern chemical filters and anti oxidation ingredients that help the chemical filters to last longer. I haven't worn it swimming but i haven't had any issues with it coming off during normal activities.
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why is there nothing on here about dandruff?
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>>18239166

ingesting collagen doesn’t do shit, you people don’t actually believe that do you? this is the equivalent of eating eyeballs to make your eyesight better
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Good sunscreen for dry skin?
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>>18239549
go to >>>/fa/balding for that, ketoconazole shampoo is a miracle for sebderm and even acne if you put it on your face.
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>>18239555
>ingesting collagen
Ingesting collagen itself doesn't do shit. Smearing it on your face does less than shit. Ingesting collagen peptides can boost collagen production, though the science is a little shaky on just how effective it is.
I'd say the number one step to collagenmaxx is to wear the sunscreen so the sun doesn't burn away what you've already got.
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Anyone here use glutathione pills?

I want to get paler and even out my tan lines

Do these work?
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>>18238549
>salicylic acid
>retinoids
>benzoyl peroxide

Also, switch to an electric razor.
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>>18238958
Yes, unless you're a hot woman. Stick to hats and long sleeves otherwise.
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>>18239820
SCINIC - Enjoy Super Mild Sun Essence
Canmake - Mermaid Skin Gel UV Sunscreen SPF 50+ PA++++
Beauty of Joseon - Relief Sun
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>>18241447
Very important to note there are totally bunk fake Chinese supplements out there claiming to be high dosages of liposomal glutathione and other forms as well, avoid stuff that doesn't have a real company behind it, isint manufactured domestically, is suspiciously cheap compared to other brands etc. Amazon is filled with this crap.
>Anyone here use glutathione pills?
I just started taking S-Acetyl Glutathine
Do they work?
>Regular glutathione pills?
No don't do anything, completely destroyed by stomach acid
>L-glutathione pills
will raise glutathione levels if you take 1,000mg per day long term
>Liposmal l-glutathione pills or liquid
will raise glutathione levels somewhat quicker, dosage should be 500mg-1,000mg per day
>S-Acetyl L-Glutathine / S-Acetyl Glutathine
will raise glutathione levels pretty quickly, best oral availability
Dosage of 100mg-300mg per day. Iherb house label California gold nutrition is the cheapest trustworthy retailer i have found for this but i haven't looked everywhere. Pure Therapro Rx S-Acetyl Glutathione GOLD is probably the highest quality offering on the market but it's $$$
>Will glutathione make me white and blonde with blue eyes
Probably not
>Will glutathione improve my skin health and help lighten my complexion some plus have some anti-aging benefits for my skin
Yes
Expect to take for at least 8 weeks before you start seeing significant results. It's a slow process not a miracle overnight thing.
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>>18241506
>S-Acetyl L-Glutathine / S-Acetyl Glutathine
Fuck
*S-Acetyl L-Glutathione / S-Acetyl Glutathione
I hate typing out the word glutathione over and over
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>>18227298
Does anybody have an insight into using Tallow as a moisturizer? I have used it for the past year or more and got good results (No smell, No breakouts, No negatives at all) but besides my personal experience, do any anons have any experience or research into it or other animal based moisturizers? Should I keep going with it?
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>>18241978
You could try emu oil but it's fucking expensive
It's supposed to absorb really well
You can look up farms certified by the American emu association, several of them sell direct to consumer. Some have some ultra purified versions.
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>>18241999
Nice digits.
A bit of a retarded question but is it made from literal Emus? I wonder if the lipid profile is as similar to humans as beef tallow is.
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>walgreens discontinued my 5% AHA cream
Reeeeeeeeeee

>captcha
GAYP
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>>18242022
>is it made from literal Emus?
Yeah
Try it out
From when i was looking into it this product seemed promising for cosmetic use. I was mainly interested in using it as a carrier oil for salves.
https://emuoil.com/product/ultra-emu-oil/
While im posting about diy skincare consider adding some boswellia serata (frankincense). Specifically the lipid soluble portion usually sold as a 65% boswellic acid extract.
This guy sells it powdered, it's a byproduct of essential oil distillation and it's great stuff, awesome anti inflammatory properties.
https://apothecarysgarden.com/collections/everything-frankincense/products/frankincense-serrata-resin-16041
https://apothecarysgarden.com/collections/skincare/products/frankincense-sacra-resin-extract-back-in-stock-boswellic-acids-a-base-for-cosmetic-therapeutic-oils-salves-and-cremes-powdered
Or you can just get it from places like bulk supplements if you don't care about it being fancy.
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>>18242030
>5% AHA cream
Neutrogena Skin Perfecting Daily Liquid Facial Exfoliant dry skin version is about 5% glycolic acid and a couple % PHA
It's not particularly expensive and a bottle lasts ages.
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>>18242045
You may have saved my life. Thank you.
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>>18242045
Apparently this product has also been discontinued but at least it's still available for now.
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is waxing a viable method for getting rid of facial hair? if so, any recommended products?
my stubble is too thick for hair removal creme.
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>>18242645
Don't do it. You will regret it. It will never grow the same again. Men's facial hair follicles have much more substantial blood vessels connected to them and you will fuck your face up.
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>>18242062
There is always The Ordinary 7% glycolic acid toner
Just be careful of buying it on Amazon, they don't sell on there and there are some sketchy sellers, fakes and Chinese knockoffs
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>>18242872
>will fuck your face up
how so? how is it any different from tweezing or laser removal?
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>>18227298
Anyone here try transparent mattifying powder to deal with sunscreen oil?
Currently I'm just giving it half an hour to set and then gently blotting the excess oil off with toilet paper but I figure powder might preserve the SPF better.
>only faggots wear makeup
I don't give a fuck. I do it right, it just looks like my natural face.
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>>18242921
Just buy better sunscreen
Hada labo uv perfect gel aka uv white gel
I put a fuckin tablespoon on today and had zero shine or oilynness
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God dammit, I'm in my late 30s and my face has never looked worse. I have no idea why...
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How do you remove dark eye circles?

It looks cool when you're young but haggard when you're getting older
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>>18243129
For me it was retinol and cutting out coffee.
Officially you're not supposed to put retinol on the under-eye area but I do it anyway and have had no ill effects (keep in mind mine is only 0.5%).
Obviously everybody's skin is different, so do not go against dermatologist-recommended protocol just because some tard on 4chan swears it worked for him.
Cutting out coffee (and caffeine altogether) has a threefold benefit:
>no longer being actively dehydrated
>sleep better
>collagen production no longer inhibited
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>>18243172
>on the under-eye area
Also I don't go all the way up to the eye, of course.In your bottom pic you can sort of see three lines under the right eye; I keep it below the second one, if you imagine tracing it all the way to the nose.
I'm not phrasing it great but I hope you get the idea. Don't be a retard is basically what I'm saying.
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Bought some Salicylic Acid to help my ugly oily nose feel better, how do I insert him into my daily routine? Morning or evening considering that I use also retinol every evening and hyaluronic acid in the morning?
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I have greasy skin that I have to wash with soap at least 2-3x a day, I would probably make it worse using lotions and sunscreen, I'm currently using ordinary niacinamide and it absorbs into my skin really quickly, are there sunscreen products like this that just disappear into your skin instead of sitting on top of it?
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>>18243611
>wash with soap at least 2-3x a day
You are probably drying out your skin, damaging its barrier, and making your oiliness worse as a result. Look into a gentle cleanser formulated for oily skin, cleanse twice a day, once in the AM, once in the PM.
Additionally, get a lightweight moisturizer. It's important to repair and strengthen the skin's moisture barrier and ensure that it's hydrated enough. If your skin is dry, your body increases sebum production to compensate.
For sunscreens, you have a few options.
Mineral sunscreens are the most matte but every one I've tried has left a white cast even though I'm white. It's not just a problem for dark-skinned people.
Japanese sunscreens apparently dry matte but I haven't tried any since for some reason almost all of them include alcohol as a high-up ingredient, which is drying and irritating. >>18242950 recommends UV perfect gel, which from the reading I did, has plenty of soothing and hydrating ingredients that would probably nullify the presence of alcohol, but I personally avoid it entirely.
There are also super-lightweight sunscreens such as Anua Heartleaf SPF, but those have virtually no sweat, friction, or water resistance because they use water-soluble filters and are formulated to wash off.
Then finally there's cope options such as letting your sunscreen set for 10-20 minutes then just blotting the excess oil off with toilet paper ripped in half. This works fine but reduces the SPF. Use SPF 50 and you'll still be above 40 afterward, though.
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The pastebin on OP recommends pic related, but isn’t this supposed to be a body lotion? Also my skin is kind of oily, does it work? I have Cetaphil but it smells kinda funky so I avoid using it on my face.
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>>18243624 (Me)
Also:
Niacinamide is not a sunscreen (I don't think you thought that but your wording was ambiguous). It is great for the skin though and helps control sebum production.
Soap is often way too basic (chemically speaking) for the face, leading to irritation and dryness.
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>>18242890
It will grow back thinner and inconsistent/patchy.
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>>18243629
You definitely want to use face specific products. I made the mistake of buying a generic walgreens 15spf moisturizer and it smelled like cucumbers even though it was supposedly fragrance free. I switched to Cerave spf 50 facial moisturizer and it's truly odor free.
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>>18243833
Oh now you got me confused because there must be a dozen face specific moisturizers on the drugstore next to me. I'll probably pick one from a known brand and hope it will do the job.
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>>18243289
Morning
>>18243629
I use this for my face, it works fine, been using it for a year or so
Cerave pm facial moisturizer is specifically for your face. Biggest differences, it comes in a much smaller bottle, it's slightly more thin and lightweight and it has niacinamide in it.
>>18243833
>You definitely want to use face specific products.
Generally i agree but that CeraVe lotion is fine for facial use. It's not heavy or thick like a hand cream or something and it's definitely not scented.
For things like cleansers and other categories of skincare stuff i would stick to products that are intended to be used on your face.
Also applies to most random lotions.
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>>18243865
I already use a serum with niacinamide every couple of days to go to sleep. Should that be enough? Since it’s fine for facial use I’ll probably use it both for body and face. My problem with Cetaphil is just the smell.
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>>18227298
Anyone got any recs for beard oil? My beard is not that long but the skin under it gets very dry/itchy. What's a good starting place?
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>>18243889
>Should that be enough?
Yeah it's plenty
I don't love niacinamide and many products contain too much anyways. Im not saying it's bad or doesn't have positive effects, im just annoyed that every other skincare product has niacinamide in it now.
>Since it’s fine for facial use I’ll probably use it both for body and face.
Yeah works fine for both.
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For those of you who have gotten acne because of wearing their glasses, how did you guys dealt with it? I have been wearing glasses for a long time and now recently my nose bridge where my glasses sit started to get acne. Usually they go away fast but also come back as fast.
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>>18243946
Bought it in 16 oz and it's so much more convenient to be able to just press down on it instead of squirting it out of a tube like the 200 ml Cetaphil that I have. It also has close to no smell, and the little smell that it has is not unpleasant at all. Will probably still be using Cetaphil on my back because it probably helps with acne scarring since it has niacinamide but I'll definitely switch to Cerave to use on my face.
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Just started Tret at 29 years old (1 day before my 30th birthday lel) for anti-aging.
I just wanted to know if theres any credibility to rumours i have heard that tretinoin can destroy the volume and fat in your face and make your skin sag and look much older? How true is this?
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>>18244049
I started at 28, it's bullshit. From my experience, however, as someone who has hyperpigmentation and pretty bad post-acne, while tret did help smooth out the face a bit and make it look clearer overall, it's no magic bullet. I haven't tried other retinoids, however, so maybe I should give them a try and see what suits me best.
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>>18243865
>face specific products
NTA but to elaborate a bit, the skin on the face, neck, and scalp is thinner and more sensitive than the skin elsewhere on the body. It's also exposed to the elements and the sun far more frequently.

>>18244080
NTA but isn't tretinoin quite literally the final form of retinoids?
Retinol, applied to the skin, is absorbed and converted into Retinaldehyde (Retinal) and finally to Retinoic Acid (Tretinoin). Other retinoids can be useful because they're less irritating, and often come mixed with other good stuff such as niacinamide or soothing ingredients.
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Redpill me on horse oil/horse oinment/horse cream. Are they any good?
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>>18244312
I use horse oil on my leather goods
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>>18244349
>I use horse oil on my leather goods
Is that a euphemism?
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>start using a different towel for face and body
>replace them every week
>acne drops by 90% even without using any prosucts

Well, shit
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>>18244312
I use horse oil on my pig skin, if you catch my drift ;)
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>>18241978
>cosmetic chemists spend years and thousands of dollars studying science and companies invest many thousands if not millions of dollars of research and development all for some mother fucker to just slather beef fat on their skin
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>>18243629
using a body lotion on the face is fine
>>18243833
there is fragrance free as in it has no fragrances and then fragrance free as in it doesn't smell strongly (they use masking fragrance to hide the chemical smell the product would otherwise have)
and they do the latter not because they want to but because likely enough people complained
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>>18244467
Many such cases
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>>18244467
do you leave your towel to dry in the bathroom
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>>18244274
>Retinol, applied to the skin, is absorbed and converted into Retinaldehyde (Retinal) and finally to Retinoic Acid (Tretinoin). Other retinoids can be useful because they're less irritating, and often come mixed with other good stuff such as niacinamide or soothing ingredients.
Thanks, I didn't know, but I'm also retarded. Tretinoin hasn't been irritating for me, aside from occasional dry skin due to me forgetting to properly moisturize, so I've been using it for just over a year now. I'm moving elsewhere soon where tretinoin isn't as openly available, but someone mentioned adapalene ITT, I'll probably be switching to it then.
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>>18239549
My dandruff went really quickly after I started using Head & Shoulders 2-in-1. Really quick fix too, dunno why I bothered using other shitty shampoo.
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is it wrong to buy a face cream (night/day) meant for women?
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>>18245149
Yeah
Is that bad?
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>>18245280
It's the same shit except stuff marketed towards women is usually priced higher
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i have a question that i’ll probably get flak for but, i’ve been using minoxidil on my face for beard gains in the morning and at night. would it be best to do that after cleansing and then wait for it to dry to add moisturizer or what?
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>>18245614
Minoxidil's MOA is that it's absorbed through the skin and converted to minoxidil sulfate, which has all the active effects. With products that need to absorb, I usually wait 5-10 minutes then moisturizer on top. Min I think you can do just 5 but I've never tried it except on my scalp and it didn't work :(
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>>18228249
I really like Shisheido sunscreen. The roll-on stick is nice too for mobile applications.
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>>18230308
i cant think of any that i know are good for under $60 but if you just bite the bullet and save up you can get good ones
i have this
https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/S7782_85/norelco-shaver-7700-wet-dry-electric-shaver-series-7000
slightly older versions that are refurb'd on their site are going for $60-$80
i still use a razor on top of this, i just use this to get 90% of it done then use a disposable safety razer for the upper lip area right under the nose and right by my sideburns it can like never get a patch of hairs that grows like sideways on my throat area so i still have to use a razor for that
if you are spending this much money you may as well get the waterproof one too, makes it very easy to just touch up in the shower
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>>18245574
not an expert but obviously women's skin is slightly different, different collagen.
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>>18245362
high humidity makes it dry slower, dark moist environment is great for bacterial and such growth
i mean switching out your towels often is a good thing, but letting them dry somewhere else would also be beneficial
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this just in
opinions?
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>>18248160
>homosalate
I'm really not a fan of that particular filter.
Otherwise, a great choice. Let us know how your face looks once it's applied and dried. Remember the two finger rule.
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AM
-Cerave Foaming Cleanser
-Cerave Daily Moisturizing Lotion
-LRP Anthelios 50+
PM
-same cleanser and lotion as above
-The Ordinary Peeling Solution (once a week)
-Cerave Resurfacing Retinol Serum (three times a week)

Is my routine okay or do I need to add/remove/change any products?
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>>18248304
if you're happy with it and you don't have any problems then it's great
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>>18236331
make one change every 2 weeks at most. strip down your routine
>>18236393
double clenasing or epiduo
>>18236822
checked
what if you have skin cancer or eczema
will your tips help?
>>18236888
checked
depends if your eyes tolerate anything there
my eyes dont and i need to wash them immediately if something gets in
try something gentle first. dont be afraid to experiment tho
>>18238549
moisturizer and azelaic acid
>The hydrating cleanser burns almost 8 out of 10 times, but the facial cleanser works fine. Why is that?
no idea, sorry. compare ingredients list. maybe its the cleaning agents
>>18238958
today is the best time to be weird/original and to not care about others opinions. make it part of your style. rock it
>>18239196
>>18239197
got it again for my hands and its great. however it wont fix certain skin issues
>>18239211
checked
nice, glad to hear it anon
>>18239549
post a question and you will get answer. or search archive, there was plenty posts on that
>>18239820
Some By Mi Truecica Aqua Calming Suncream
>>18243020
come back once you define whats wrong or post pic
>>18243129
depends. root cause needs to be identified and then treated. i suggest going to derm/beautician/estetician or whatever. also could be genetic (my mom has it but i have it worse)
>>18243289
morning
make sure to have niacinamide in at least one of your products as it regulates sebum production long term
>>18243611
checked
maybe try just water first a few times a day and without soap
if you are using sunscreen then wash with just water in am
retinoids can regulate oil production and so does niacinamide which you already use
>sunscreen products like this that just disappear into your skin instead of sitting on top of it?
id say cerave AM but it comes down to whether your skin will like it or not - so you need to experiment and do much more research - for example check out youtube sunscreen reviews and see how shiny people are after applying
other anon reply is great too
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>>18243629
heard its fine and i have been considering it as well as i am becoming disgusted with my cetaphil lotion as well due to smell.
not sure if there is any as good lotion in big bottle like this but im open to suggestions. for now it remains on my purchase list
>>18244049
>anti aging product causing aging
not true, there are plenty of clinical data on retinoids efficacy
>>18244467
if it smells, there is bacteria on it
>>18245224
been using tazarotene and its great
see if its available where you move
>>18245280
no unless they are scented in a feminine way - if thats something you mind then yes
>>18248304
looks good if you dont have any skin issues that these dont already address
had a similar routine and i added vitamin c for anti aging purposes in am routine
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>>18249239
>heard its fine and i have been considering it as well as i am becoming disgusted with my cetaphil lotion as well due to smell.
That cerave is good to go.
Reasonably thin, absorbs quickly, doesn't stink
Has some extremely mild neutral odor but i can't even smell it unless i put a big dob on my hand and directly sniff it.
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>>18249239
>added vitamin c for anti aging purposes in am routine
What serum do you recommend? Something I can find in EU if possible
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>>18249584
Melano CC
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Just started working a construction job after neeting for a few yrs. Rec me the longest lasting/ highest spf sunscreen you know of. Preferably something that can be bought on amazon. Am ruralfag.
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>>18245614
I read that minoxidil destroys collagen
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My routine at the moment is very basic, just cleanser and moisturizer in the evenings. I have a bit of acne of that I'm trying to get rid of, not a ton just a few spots that crop up here and there, mainly on my checks, nose, and neck. I tried the red 2% SA Stridex pads daily for several months and it made no difference, and I also tried Differin for a year (every other day the first three months, daily after) also with no difference. At this point should I try benzoyle peroxide? Do I also need to include be some other kind of exfoliation now that I've stopped using the Differin?
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>>18249223
>come back once you define whats wrong or post pic
It's just so many pimples and whiteheads. I never had this many in my life. They keep coming. I figure some are from me being sloppy about shaving... but I'm not shaving my nose or forehead.
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>>18249784
Try azelaic acid cream 15% or 20% if you can get it
I quite like the kisocare Azelaic Acid 15% you can get on Amazon.
Put it on after cleansing and before moisturizer.
It might sting a little bit, that's normal.
It's a great antiinflammatory and it kills bacteria and yeast on your skin which will help quite a bit with some types of acne.
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>>18227298
got an ingrown hair that turned into a cyst on my jawline, quite gross. i've been putting salicylic acid on it for the past 24 hours which just seems like it's burning off the skin on top. i'm hoping if i keep doing this it will eventually just uncover the cyst and maybe it will then drain out itself? can't afford to go to a doctor
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>>18249796
Did something change recently to trigger this? How long has your skin been like this?
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How do i get rid of smile lines and discoloration? I have a pretty prominent one (only on my left side for some reason) and discoloration around them and just above my chin that im not sure is hyperpigmentation or just shadows.
Im pretty underweight if it matters
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Does the quality of the safety razor holder actually matter (as long as it’s metal)?

Should I splurge on an expensive one like Mühle or is it fine to get something like a Wilkinson that costs a third as much?
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>>18250033
Look into retinol and collagen promoting products, and avoid alcohol based ones (they dry out your skin)
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Skincare folks on leddit keep shilling the cosrx snail mucin essence for its hydrating properties but I'm not too sure if it's worth it or not
Thoughts on it? Suggest other asian products (serums/toners) for hydration, my goal is to have even and smooth skin
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>>18250492
My source is a youtube short but this lady is a dermatologist:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DKSfJ3HbO14
Basically it contains a bunch of good ingredients like hyaluronic acid, glycolic acid, zinc. I can't speak to whether it's better than any other well-formulated moisturizer/AHA exfoliant. Look into snail mucin's mechanism of action and compare it to similar products, I suppose.
For what it's worth during my limited research I learned that the snails are not harmed during the production process, if you care about that.
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>>18250050
Material quality matters but you don't have to splurge to get a solid weighty adjustable razor, there's tons of $10-20 merkur futur clones that don't feel like cheap shit.

Just avoid models that have no weight because you will have to actually press down to shave.
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Are there ways to fix stretch marks?

What did you use that works?
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what's a good mild shampoo? i wash every other day
no SLS, europe
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>>18250840
Wash everyday with conditioner, use shampoo every third day.
No idea what to recommend since im not euro but look for low lather shampoos
>>18250823
Find a supplement that contains gilsodin and take 1,000mg of the active ingredient 2-4 capsules depending on the brand of supplement for 1-2 months, then reduce to 500mg per day
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>>18250874
what conditioner do you recommend
i normally use eggs+olive oil but i guess i wont always be able to do taht
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>>18250881
>i normally use eggs+olive oil
Jesus Christ
Just look up the curly girl method r*ddit and use the stuff they suggest
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>>18250911
>Jesus Christ
it works great youre a fucking retard
if i wanted to see 50 gorillion opinion on reddit i would've asked on reddit
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>>18250914
you're arguing with a girl anon
>>18250823
have you tried exercise
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>>18250914
Salad dressing ass nigga
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>>18250930
i dont speak ebonics
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>>18250924
I've already lost weight

Sadly the stretch marks didn't go away
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>>18250795
Thanks man
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>>18250881
Kek what the fuck this nigga smell like eggs
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hey anons i have pretty bad acne scars and i wanna know how to maybe make it just a bit smoother, i dont know if theyll ever go away without some type of medical intervention or something. idk im very new to skincare ftmp and i wanna try and get on top of it before its too late. maybe it already is but pls advice would be great. kinda just use cerave products rn. any advice is appreciated
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>>18249223
>double clenasing or epiduo
does this work as a man?
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creams and lotions are a facade. your skin is determined by genetics, sun exposure, diet, and sleep
Prove me wrong
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Is toner supposed to make your skin a bit red and have a "burning" sensation?
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>>18251346
I don't know if "supposed to" is the right way to put it, but it does what you describe.
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i need help anons pls tell me how to reduce acne scars
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>>18251094
>>18251524
Cerave retinol serum
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>>18250874
>Wash everyday with conditioner
NTA is this analogy accurate:
Conditioner is like a soothing moisturizer for your scalp with the benefit of strengthening hair strands, and as such should be used daily. Shampoo is the cleanser. The scalp, being more sensitive, shouldn't be cleansed daily, just every few days to deal with buildup that daily rinsing doesn't address.
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>>18251591
>Shampoo is the cleanser. The scalp, being more sensitive, shouldn't be cleansed daily,
This is kind of correct
Okay so shampoo is a more aggressive cleanser, some more then others. Shampoo removes buildup on the hair and scalp, that's why you want to use it every third day, based on the studies done that's the minimum frequency to prevent excessive buildup of dirt, yeast, microbes, dead skin etc on the scalp.
I recommend the curly girl method approved shampoos, or more accurately avoiding the ingredients they say to avoid so that you don't get a shampoo that is excessively harsh, or one that causes it's own buildup due to silicones, excessive protein or some polyquaternium compounds.
Conditioner actually does a decent job removing some kinds of buildup from hair, that's where the whole co-wash concept came from. I use a water soluble styling clay and im able to wash it out completely with conditioner.
If you are good at the whole second day hair styling with the leftover product in it thing then you don't need to condition daily. Again the list of curly girl ingredients to avoid allows you to use a conditioner more often and more generously without causing buildup and needing to use stronger more harsh shampoo to get it out.
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>>18249290
thanks
>>18249584
geek & gorgeous or timeless
>>18249784
benzoyl peroxide, azelaic acid or go to derm for prescription retinoid (maybe epiduo)
>>18249880
azelaic acid and urea helps with ingrown hair but DYOR
>>18249796
do you touch your face?
maybe its diet
>>18250033
checked
>How do i get rid of smile lines
procedure, nothing topical will remove them
>discoloration
what kind?
>>18250492
>my goal is to have even and smooth skin
post routine. id focus on retinoids and exfoliation more than moisturizing
>>18251016
there are procedures for this i think, topical stuff might be non efficient
>>18250881
seconding curly method though the recommendations are for US market mostly i think. i found some of the recommended products in my region but they are expensive. amazon sucks in my area
>>18251094
post routine
you could start retinol but if you are talking about atrophic scars then you need derma rolling desu
>>18251188
checked
sorry by dark spots do you mean sebaceous filaments?
>>18251229
>your skin is determined by genetics, sun exposure, diet, and sleep
your skin could be also determined by washing hands every 10 minutes at work
then you could use some of them >creams and lotions
>>18251346
does it happen on your face only? how about an arm
>>18251524
see >>18251569
unless they are atrophic, then derma rolling
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>>18252486
ok but how do i unsubscribe
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Has anyone used pic related or other bb creams? How good are they at hiding skin texture and moisturizing? I heard lots of koreans use them
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>>18252673
Nothing hides skin texture it'll just even out the skin tone. Essence might distract from shitty texture though you'll get the "gay glow". Yes, a lot of "player" types use it in China, Japan & Korea often a shade lighter than their natural skin tone. Don't do that in the west though you'll get called out. In Asia only geezers call people out on male make up women don't care.
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>>18252721
I'm pretty sure Holland wears it he always looks ashy.
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I started using a cleanser, toner and moisturizer (only used moisturizer before) two times a day ~5 days ago, but my forehead is now breaking out with small zits.
I'm assuming this is due to overcleansing as my forehead is quite dry. Should I limit cleanser to once every 2 days or something, and only use water? If so, should I use it in the morning or night?
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>>18252791
and only use water otherwise?*
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be honest
how many of you have a sephora membership?
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>>18252791
If you started that all at once, you're skin might be freaking out from the sudden changes. If it stays that way after a week or two, then you have a problem.
Assuming this is what's happening, next time you introduce new products you should do it slowly by using small doses or only applying once every other/few days but since you already started you might as well keep going.
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Sharing my overkill routine for persistent acne
Morning
>Cerave gentle cleanser
>Azelaic Acid
>Benzoyl peroxide on bad areas if needed
>Dermedic Normacne Moisturiser
>Sunscreen if going outside

Evening
>Micellar water
>LRP oily skin cleanser
>Benzoyl Peroxide full face
>Dermedic Normacne night cream

The dermedic creams made a huuuge difference, found them by accident on holiday.
Thinking of adding adapalene back in in the evening but theoretically can't atm cause pregnant
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Are face scrubbers a meme? I always feel like I'm applying too much cleanser or not rubbing it enough properly, will they help?
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does anyone else deal with extremely dry hands/wrists? mine get really bad in the winter and constantly crack/bleed. applying lotion a couple times a day isn't always enough to stop it either.
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>>18227298
Does it make any sense to use an AHA + BHA toner over just a BHA toner? Also was wondering if any anons had experience with picrel?
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>>18227298
Should I use retinol nightly or retinol 5x a night with Glycolic Acid/AHA complex exfoliation twice a week?
Slightly dry skin, not acne-prone, my goal is to tighten up my pores, smooth out my skin tone and texture, and hopefully look younger. I read somewhere that Retinol doesn't actually exfoliate that much.
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>>18255586
>5x a night
5x a week. I'm tired.
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Recommend a retinol
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>>18250823
bio oil
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Any products or procedures to remove nasolabial folds/smile lines?
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>>18252791
>I started using a cleanser, toner and moisturizer (only used moisturizer before) two times a day ~5 days ago, but my forehead is now breaking out with small zits.
fully expected with such change
>I'm assuming this is due to overcleansing as my forehead is quite dry. Should I limit cleanser to once every 2 days or something, and only use water? If so, should I use it in the morning or night?
we can only guess so maybe post products you use
>>18253171
i would switch morning BP to a salicylic acid toner, use it before azelaic acid
>dermedic
they have a much better and cheaper alternative to neutrogena hydro boost moisturizing gel, but sadly it is scented
>Thinking of adding adapalene back in in the evening but theoretically can't atm cause pregnant
reasess your skin after delivery. in case there is no change in acne a few weeks after, consider a derm visit to get epiduo (adapalene + BP). if you used adapalene before, be sure to mention it so you get the forte version (0,1% vs 0,3%)
>>18253769
saw vibrating ones with astronomical prices. havent seen them used by professional derms on youtube tho. id say nay
>>18254390
before going to bed apply moisturizer and slug with petroleum jelly, then put on some kind of gloves (probs single use ones but other anons might give better advice).
>>18255586
retinoids 5-6 times a week, AHA peel on off days
>>18255948
cerave resurfacing retinol serum
>>18256023
nothing topical can _remove_ these
get hyaluronic acid fills but needs to be repeated every few months
there are other procedures too probably, ask your esthetician
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This is gonna be a long shot, but do any of you have experiences with scalp moisturizing lotions?
I've got seb derm on both my face and my scalp, and whenever it flares up (autumn, spring) and I shampoo my skin gets inflamed, scaly, itchy, etc.
I've noticed however that immediately applying moisturizing cream on my face after a shower really helps it calm down, but it's a bit too thick to apply on my head (since I also have hair) and I don't even know if face cream would work on the scalp. Is there such thing as light-weight scalp lotions that don't get your hair sticky or make it clump up or something?
(Note I already use Nizoral to treat it, but I always need to switch shampoos every 3-4 months else it grow tolerance to it, and the transition period is painful. I was just thinking moisturizing might make it easier.)
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>>18257398
Maybe look for a leave in conditioner that's focused on scalp health.
I see some that are marketed specifically for dry scalp issues
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>>18257398
You can also try using pine tar shampoo. It smells terrible but it really fucking works for some people's otherwise impossible itchy scalp issues
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>>18258925
Looks like it uses constarch as a mattifying additive. Oil control products like that work well for some people by leaving a matte finish on your skin so it doesn't look so shiny. The powder will also absorb some oil throughout the day. How well it works is going to depend on your particular skin. Some people have good results. If you have darker skin it might have a bit of a white cast, if your skin is so oily you can dab grease off with a napkin it's only going to help for a few hours.
As far as removing excess oil from your face an oil based cleanser or BHA product is going to be the way to go, this of this moisturizer as more of a cosmetic fix then a treatment for excess oil
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>>18239139
dont those online sites still require a prescription? also what strength tretinoin does should I get
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>>18259123
>Don't those online sites require a prescription
The overseas ones like skinorac don't. You have to pay with weird payment methods or Amazon gift cards but they are legit and customs doesn't care unless you buy 100 tubes at once.
The US based ones like cureology will give you a script for free (that you can only use with them) after a two minute video call with some nurse practitioner on their staff. They will also try and upsell you one their sunscreen and shit but just tell them to fuck off. If you go with them i would suggest you tell them you want tret + azelaic acid and to skip the niacinamide since they work with compounding pharmacies and I dont think they will do just straight tret with nothing else, but maybe they will, i haven't used them. I think they are the cheapest of the domestic services.
>What strength
Definitely start with 0.025 consider moving up to .05 after like 3 tubes depending on how well your skin handles it.
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Any thoughts on pic related, is it a good product?

I'm pretty new to retinoids and been using it for a couple of months. The lack of both a non-transparent container and a pump is concerning to me, I've learned that the active ingredient is sensitive to UV light and air.

Should I get some other product next time?
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>>18259893
yes it is, you don't need much more
it comes in a box, you put it into a fridge and you always open it just for few seconds, it will be fine
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>>18259895
Been keeping mine in the drug cabinet for 3 months or so. I wonder if I've destroyed it kek.
I know they tell you to refrigerate it on the bottle but it felt like a hassle.
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>>18227298
>stopped all skincare
>hardly breaking out anymore

wtf. skin is dry af but think it'll normalize in sometime. this shit crazy.
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>>18259909
Post routine that you dropped.
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>>18259893
The Ordinary Retinal 0.2% Emulsion
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>>18259909
went through tens of different facewashes and moisturizers over the span of 14 months and all they did was irritate my skin or break me out. I was only washing face once or twice a day and moisturizing to follow.
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What ingredients should I look for if I want sunscreen to be water-resistant but it's not necessarily labelled or advertised as such?
I don't need to go swimming with it, I just want to know that I can head to the gym, work up a sweat, and drive home still protected basically.
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>>18253769
Won't that just overexfoliate your face? Consensus seems that chemical exfoliators are better than physical ones.
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>>18227298
dark eye circles tips?
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What to use to make skin tighter/smoother? I already cleanse and moisturize.

Reviewed the OP post and I guess a toner?

I also have big pores, what would help with that?
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>>18259893
Use tretinoin if you're 25+, it's way more potent and beneficial in the long term.
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>>18261982
A lower eyelid correction.
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>>18262373
It's unavailable where I live and my country is notorious for its customs checks. Afraid I'll have to stick with what's available OTC.
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>>18262373
Which concentration? I was prescribed 0.025% once and it didn't do shit to my acne.
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>>18262395
The cream?
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>>18262410
Yea
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>>18262436
In the context of skincare, tretinoin is typically used for anti-ageing purposes. If you want to address (aggressive) acne, accutane (or Isotretinoin) can help as a medication which you take orally. It does have some serious side effects from what I've heard, so do some research before you consider asking your doctor for a prescription.
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>>18262373
Most people need to build up a tolerance to retinoids before taking on tret. Better to sink some time and money getting through a bottle of babby's first retinoid than to chemically burn your face using tret before you're ready.
>>18259893
Work through that and then if you can't get tret and you want more power, dermalogica has a 3.5% retinol complex and a few brands offer retinals. OTC you're hard-pressed to get stronger than the equivalent of 2% retinol.
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How do I know if I’ve got sensitive skin?
I’ve got olive skin, I’m 33, I just splash water on my face in the shower every morning and night.
I haven’t had pimples since I was in high school and I got a healthy amount (8-12 hours daily) of sun. I should wear sunscreen, my face is burnt but not red and it doesn’t hurt.
I might be blessed but there are people I work with who are same age but look a lot older than me but they’re pasty white and don’t go well in the sun
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>>18262723
>8-12 hours daily
nigga with that much exposure darker skin color ain't gonna help
black people only got like SPF 13 from melanin, most recommend using at least SPF 30 sunscreen, you do the math
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>>18262572
>OTC you're hard-pressed to get stronger than the equivalent of 2% retinol.
Is the stronger stuff necessary if I just wanna treat signs of skin aging? I don't have to deal with acne scars or anything like that, thankfully.

Guess I could get my hands on tretinoin by traveling to Spain or something, which I plan to do this winter.
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>>18227298
Any tips on how to get rid of a seborrheic keratosis near your hairline?
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Why is my skin so fucked up? I have shit texture, discoloration, post acne marks, smile lines, etc. My entire routine is:
>AM: cleanser, moisturizer, sunscreen
>PM: cleanser, glycolic acid, exfoliation every few days, moisturizer
Should i just fraud at this point with BB creams?
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>>18263171
>glycolic acid, exfoliation every few days
You using glycolic acid Daily and doing physical exfoliation? Stop doing that
A 7-10% glycolic acid product should be used 3 days a week, maybe every other day if your skin tolerates it well.
For your issues i would suggest wearing sunscreen daily, adding a retinol or tretinoin at night, adding azelaic acid in the am and also maybe some discoloration correction serum like the one from good molecules. Quit the glycolic acid and exfoliation when starting retinoids, Maybe add it back later if you really need too once you have gone through several bottles of retinoids and have stepped up to the highst dose of them you can tolerate.
Sunscreen is huge for stopping hyperpigmentation and allowing your body to heal existing discoloration and damage.
Basically you have a standard routine but outside of the glycolic acid you aren't using any targeted ingredients to treat the skin issues you want to deal with
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>>18263193
>adding a retinol or tretinoin at night
I used pic rel for a while and switched to the glycolic acid about a month ago. I dont remember it doing much, maybe its concentration is too low?
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>>18263287
it is too low, 0.14% if I remember correctly, for example the lowest serum from the ordinary is 0.2%
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My normie mundane routine:

Evening: Cerave oily cleanser and moisturizer, Paula BHA exfoliation.

I have been at it for more or less 6 months, I think? Well, my problem is I still get acne, my face has improved and appear nicer but still acne. Should I add Benzoyl peroxide (suggested in Pastebin) or skip it and go straight to a retinol?
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>>18227298
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Is charcoal a meme?
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i'm a complete newfag to skincare. is all this stuff i see online about korean or other asian skincare worth anything? are the products actually better, or is it just a shill? i see people recommend things like the softymo oil cleanser.
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I have eyebrow and beard dandruff, oily skin, and (some) pimples. Underneath the oily skin is purely dry, but soft, skin. I'm Mediterranean (Sicilian).


What should I use?
>Exfoliant + moisturizer (what main ingredients?)
>Moisturizer + lotion
>Something(s) else
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>>18265775
>softymo oil cleanser.
This stuff is probably the cheapest oil cleanser you can buy, less then $10 a bottle on Amazon.
I like the softymo speedy version
In general Korean and Japanese skincare products can be good and bad and western products are a lot better then they were 10-15 years ago but for some things yeah the k-beauty stuff is way better. Japanese and Korean sunscreens are way better then American ones because they use more modern uv blocking chemicals and they are also more cosmetically elegant.
Asian hydrating toners are also way better then their western counterparts for the most part.
If you live somewhere where kbeauty stuff is really expensive then don't bother.
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>>18265781
>I have eyebrow and beard dandruff, oily skin, and (some) pimples.
Do you wash your face with a cleanser?
Start with a facial cleanser and lightweight facial moisturizer. Wash the skin under your beard and eyebrows when you cleanse.
If you are lucky that will take care of it
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>>18265814
I wash my face with a rag, otherwise I'm trying my hardest to just shower and brush my teeth every day, new med made that a lot easier (started it 10 days ago, have now showered and brushed my teeth 3 days out of the week instead of 3 days out of the month), so I'm ready to try doing something more for hygiene.

Otherwise, thanks, I'll look in to oily/dry skin cleansers, figure out which of the two works best.

Also, any recs on strengthening gums, stopping them from bleeding and strengthening the teeth I have remaining? Already know, brush them at least twice a day, morning and bed time, and bleeding should stop. I'm not showing my fucked up teeth, it's too late to repair them.
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I generally don't have acne, but my cycle tends to make me get those painful, red cystic pimples on my chin and forehead. I was told to try a retinol cream. I have been using the CeraVe resurfacing retinol serum for 8 weeks now but haven't seen any difference and still have the cyclic acne. I didn't even break out like others have told me they had when using retinol. Do I need something stronger? There's no percentage listed for the strength of the retinol in the CeraVe serum.
Routine for using the retinol is wash face, use retinol serum, apply gel hydrating cream, and slap on my snail sleeping mask.
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>>18265833
>>18263287
>>18263300
Holy moly. Question answered. I need something stronger.
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>>18257398
i am yet to try body lotions on my scalp as a mask
>>18259893
there was a a yt vid where some chemist said granactive is better and detoriate slower than the squalane version. dont have the link tho
but yes over time i built more confidence in airless packages with pump
>>18259909
some people need a great reset from time to time or a great stop
>>18261033
i think there are a few sunscreens branded for going to mountains and they are mineral based
>>18261831
i think its too gentle to do this kind of skin scraping
>>18261982
understand the root cause behind them and you will know what to do next
>>18262154
retinoids, exfoliator, check previous threads for youtube links from Tina
>>18262723
>How do I know if I’ve got sensitive skin?
by looking at your skins reaction to external factors
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>>18262796
nta but
>Is the stronger stuff necessary if I just wanna treat signs of skin aging?
no, but stronger ones work better
>>18262815
let a professional look at it to confirm if you did not already
then ask to get it removed if possible
>>18263300
>>18265834
most sources say its 0,3% and i dont see any different numbers, i think it was discussed multiple times in these threads as well
>I used pic rel for a while
define while
i had pretty good results with it after 3 months
>>18263922
go for retinol
>>18265224
cant find any clinical data on this
>>18265781
i think it was salicylic or azelaic acid that helped with it
>>18265822
>any recs on strengthening gums
soft brush
good luck anon
>>18265833
retinoids dont prevent acne, they speed up cell turnover so you get rid of pimples quicker. you may explore additional actives against it like BP, azelaic acid, BHA, spot treatments like LRP effaclar duo or prescription stuff like mupirocin (worked very well for me)
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So are toners and exfoliants the same thing? The OP seems to list them interchangeably and under the same recommendation list.
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>>18227298
I bathe in pink soap and call it a day.

https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Joe-Pink-Lotion-Soap/dp/B08BJFQXL9
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>>18266790
Asian girl poster always coming in clutch, appreciate the advice anon :)
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whats the difference between glycolic acid and salicylic acid?

what purpose does each one serve?
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>>18266890
Some toners are exfoliating, some are hydrating, some are retarded American shit that's 90% alcohol and fucks up your skin.
>>18266946
Glycolic acid is an alpha hydroxy acid, salicylic acid is a beta hydroxy acid
Glycolic acid is for exfoliating your skin, salicylic acid is for removing excess skin oil, grease, cleaning out your pores etc
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>>18266946
AHAs are the larger molecule and as such penetrate less deeply than BHAs. They are also water-soluble and their primary function is to dissolve dead skin cells, exfoliate, and hydrate the skin. Glycolic acid can stimulate collagen production too. They are still exfoliating acids and need to be used intelligently, read the directions on any product you're thinking of using. Classic example: glycolic acid.

BHAs are smaller and are oil-soluble. They penetrate deep into the pores and clear out oil and other pollutants. They are more useful for acne. Like AHAs, use them intelligently. Classic example: Salycilic Acid.

Both are excellent products for skincare. I personally use glycolic acid for fine lines and exfoliation twice a week. I'm not acne-prone so I don't bother with BHAs.
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Is it just hype or are their products legit?
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>>18267181
Their toners and sunscreens are legit. Allegedly their fragrances are gentler and less likely to cause reactions than western fragrances too.
European sunscreen is as good as K-sunscreen. I use K-Beauty sunscreen but everything else I use I just get at places like Sephora.
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>>18267092
So would you say Glycolic is better for closing pores and more general skincare?

I dont have acne but my skin still doesnt look smooth and I feel like I have open/visible pores.
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Current routine (just started):
AM
Splash face with lukewarm water
Toner - The Ordinary Saccharomyces Ferment 30% Milky Toner
Multi-Peptide + Copper Peptides 1% Serum (for dark purple under eye circles)
Niacinamide - The Ordinary Niacinamide 5% Face & Body Emulsion
Moisturizer - CeraVe Daily Moisturizing Lotion
SPF - La Roche Posay Anthelios UVMUNE 400 Oil-Control Fluid SPF50+

PM
Cleanser - CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser or Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser
Toner - The Ordinary Saccharomyces Ferment 30% Milky Toner
Niacinamide - The Ordinary Niacinamide 5% Face & Body Emulsion
Tret - Retin-A
Night Moisturizer - cerave daily moisturizing cream
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>>18267846
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>>18267846
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>>18267846
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>>18237313
I wish the waffle next to my house sold Blue waffles.
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>>18227298
aaa



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