LET'S CHEAPEN OUR BRAND WITH A QUARTZ VERSION OF OUR MOST POPULAR MODEL THAT WE WILL SELL FOR HALF THE PRICE - EDITION"Suggest a watch for me.">Your budget>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18227143
>>18229794NOT MY FAULT QUARTZ IS THE ENLIGHTENED PATRICIAN CHOICE AND YOU PEOPLE CAN'T DEAL WITH IT
first for nasty disgusting poorfag shitters and you should kys retardello
At some point we have to choose between a boring thread or a thread with avatarfags.We have to accept that it's not the same and that it is more engaging, interesting and more inspiring having people in our community who we can follow in their watch journey.How hype would it be if Finncel popped up with a new watch? Think about it.OD getting that JLC reverso out of nowhere??? How is this NOT hype af?Whoretadello aka /wt/? Every time he posts you don't know if he got a new watch or where he even is right now.HamiltonChad? Bro... His long distance shots are out of this world.Mort? He has every watch we could ever want and more.And this is just scratching the surface.The CatMoserChad-CMC for short. The cockwatch faggot too. The Germoid who might just be Bitteranon(???).It's just very entertaining. It gives a certain one of a kind-character and feel and makes this thread extremely unique.And we get to talk about watches directly THROUGH them, their objective experiences and analyse them in depth.I love our All-stars and I hope they're doing well.
>>18229809>avatarfagsI'd rather be on plebbit
OP is a faggot
>>18229807Quartz is the NPC choice, it's for bitches who rely on society to change their battery.Real SIGMA males only rely on themselves and on their mechanical watch.
>>18229794I would understand if it was quartz from this millenium, but it is not accurate, doesn't even have solar battery, no radio controlled time adjustement, no bluetooth, no gps, nothing. It's shit.Also it probably doesn't even hit the markers, my casio simply dabs on this garbage.
>>18229794>Hamilton >"we're a proud American company... that produces in China... but we're Swiss Made!"This company is a fucking joke.
I'd rather kill my self than wear a shitter
shitters
>>18229818It's a ETA quartz inside, apparently
>>18229809Just remember when dealing with Bittercel to NOT bring up his Indian ethnicity or he will have you banned for racism outside of /b/.
>>18229798>Rates stock internet photos, and anon's watches. >Nobody cares. >Malding. >Unmoisturized. >Not in your lane. Just give up.
>>18229818Based fellow dabber.
>>18229818>>18229837The Hamilton, even though it's dogshit, at least looks good. It has a traditional design that will never goes out of style and will look good in most outfits.Your Casio on the other hand looks terrible. Typical incel watch.
>>18229820Hamilton Bros..... I don't think we can recover from this.
>>18229809This is probably pasta, but uinronically yes.I miss whoretadello and I wonder how he's life in Japan is. He did go a bit overboard with the white posting, but those times were golden.I miss OmegaDrunk's essays on watches and his near incoherent merry drunk posts. I hope his glass never goes empty.Even reversocel I miss. I hope he found peace and the attention he craved for in redit.Even cockwatch. He was so uniquely schizo, he never failed to leave his mark on this thread.Now we have a mostly desolate wasteland of just rambling and arguing about specs... I fear we lost our joy when we lost many of our most important avatarfriends.
>>18229856>oh no people are actually discussing watches now, quick bring back the blogpostersYou don't care about watches. You care about internet dramas. You're basically a woman obsessed with celebrity gossips.
>>18229794Is there a list of all the Swiss companies that went out of business because of the quartz crisis?
>>18227612I own both the Hamilton (but in black PVD) and the Seiko. They are both almost the same size (38mm/39mm), I love both, but the Hamilton is my daily, unchallenged.The Seiko, i wear more in winter or if i go have a drink downtown at night and i want something substantial yet that won't get me stabbed over it.
>>18229794>hamiltonthat belongs to /chinkwt/
>>18229794Anyone know anything about watchmaking schools? I remember years ago when the threads were slightly less shit that there was a guy studying this.
>>18229844Would look better if they resisted the urge to put "Khaki" on the dial.The thing that makes the mechanical version so good is that it just says "Hamilton" and nothing else.
>>18229859Don't give that guy any attention, either. He's just trying to get shit stirred up.>>18229868Are you looking for professional development or a hobbyist watchmaking class?
>>18229877Pro career stream curious.
Good evening fellow watch enthusiasts.
Is anyone else even more weary than usual about wearing your nice non gaudy watches in public? I feel like the amount of people who would kill for 5k in the USA has gone up substantially lately. It’s taking the enjoyment out of wearing them outside my house. Maybe it’s just in my head.
>>18229885
>>18229888Carry a gun. Problem solved
>>18229888I finally understand why celebrities and richfags in USA dress like homeless people.
>>18229892I do carry a gun but obviously I don’t want to get into a situation where I have to use it and then have to go to court and all that
>>18229877>hobbyistHave you any good resources?
>>18229854The only solution is to go american made vintage at this point.
>>18229881I don't know about that>>18229907Depending on your country, the best place to look is your city's horological society. In the US, there's national organizations like the American Watchmakers–Clockmakers Institute which host regular classes on building watches or clocks.
>>18229844Would it destroy the look if they put solar battery in it? Or a higher quality quartz? Or a sweepeing second higher quality quartz with solar battery?
>>18229931>Would it destroy the look if they put solar battery in it?It might. The dial would no longer be matte, I think.
>>18229888>Is anyone else even more weary than usual about wearing your nice non gaudy watches in public?Wtf wh->USAOh... Oh, I see.
>>18229794They're selling a shitty quartz for $400. Seems like a smart idea.
>>18229890>>18229885 We've seen your watch at least 1000 times but, I took the time to think about it in a more objective manner and my conclusion is that; people don't actually realise what they're seeing here.It is an anomaly in the watch world. I won't say that it is the best value for money that you can get, because sadly this term has also been dragged through the ground and it has lost its meaning, and yet if you think about it, the fact that you can get this watch below 2000$ does not make sense.First of all, you get the, possibly, most accurate autonomous watch on the planet, no GPS gimmicks, no radio controll no internet whatever, it's just you, in the woods, knowing the atomic time without big tech and or the government being able to track you. On top of that, you literally have a feature that is usually reserved for much, Much more expensive watches- the perpetual calendar.Technicalities and specs aside, what do you get on the finishing part? It is as good as a grand seiko in terms of Hands and Marker finishing- Spotless, Sharp and no impurities or rough edges to be found. But what does GS-Level mean? Well it literally means that your Markers and Hands do have, on a macro level, better finished hands than 5 Digit Swiss Watches. It doesn't matter if this fact makes you angry or triggered or in doubt, but it is a Fact. The dial itself, the way they did the perception of depth, shouldn't work but it does and youc an even see the sunburst effect too.Okay so what about exclusivity? Well what defines exclusivity?>Low productionCheck>Locked behind the country of originCheck>Rare limited edition on top of said rarity to begin withCheckSo what about the case?Well it is not zaratsu but it still shouldn't be as good as it is. It is almost distortion free.But is it all perfect? I don't think so, no. It is too thick, the movement is ugly and the bracelet is below the standards that the dial and tech have set. But again,it's 2000$
>>18229844>>The Hamilton, even though it's dogshit, at least looks good.Except the incredibly retarded Khaki text. And their logo isn't that great either.
>>18229844>le traditional designI have that particular base covered too.
>>18229964This anon has all sides covered. His collection is impenetrable.
If for 4 minutes and 11 seconds, you had infinite cursed energy, what would you use it for?
>>18229984I would run a mile in 3 minutes 42 seconds and celebrate for the remaining 29 seconds.
>>18229984I'd break up a particle to be smaller than the planc length.
citizen garrison confirmed based
>>18229974I'm about to add another one to it.Soon™
>>18229984rape, mostly
>>18230014>>18229993>>18229989>>18229984Based
>>18229996Is that the 37mm one?
>>18229815>Real SIGMA males only rely on themselvesI assume you service your own movements?
>>18230035He said sigma, not Alpha.
>>18229888Yeah, I feel like it's a bad time to flex. Or even if flexing isn't your intention it might be perceived as such.
>>18229868Anyone ever consider making a career change? Or are you all too set in your ways and means?
>>18230042Most people don't know the difference between a $100 watch and a $10000 watch.
>>18230034Yeah, I'm a fan of the smaller profile for a tool watch. Easier to actually use my hands for shit and not smack it or scrape it. I don't have a small wrist either, pretty average.
>>18229996>big scratches in the mineral glassI really love this watch but fuck that
>>1822988899% of watch collectors don't wear their luxury watches in the wild.They wear their luxury watches in their safe zone (home, friends' homes, golf club, restaurant then go back home asap).
>>18230083>home, friends' homes, golf club, restaurant then go back home asapIf you're rich, that IS the wild.What, do you expect that rich people are required once per week to slowly drive through the ghetto with their windows rolled down?
Cop or not? My wrists are only 50mm wide. The watch has a 33mm case diameter and 37mm lug-to-lug length.
>>18230083>>18230090>"Now let me tell you about being rich"My expensive watches ars my daily's. You don't live in a first world country if you're afraid to own expensive watches.Just saying a world outside of california and east usa exist.
>>18230097Does exist*and no, big cities doesn't necessarily mean crime. Hell, I forgot my wallet in a bar and picked it up the next day unharmed.
>>18230097>My expensive watches ars my daily's.Post them. (You won't.)>>18230099>Hell, I forgot my wallet in a bar and picked it up the next day unharmed.No one wanted your bus pass?
>>18230099at a bar*ffs. I better stop writing.
>>18230092The titanium version is the correct one to get.
>>18229794I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM I HATE 38MM
Picked up this big.boye at Ikea earlier this week. Wasn't even looking for a clock, just stumbled upon it.Looks great irl and the smooth hand movement is noice.
>>18230110Love the cats. Clock seems nice too.>>18230102I'm whoretadello, desu.
>>18230112Oh those aren't cats, those are just toys.
>>18230122....I didn't notice.
>>18229981dufour used cad to make the ap pp grand sonnerie wristwatchit's a tool
>>18230133sacrilege..into the fucking trash
>>18230082Just got one scratch from banging it on a rock, dried mud didnt do anything. It's a watch I'm expecting to wear doing everything so it doesn't bother me to get it a little scuffed
>>18230152>SabNeat, is the calendar in Portuguese?
>>18230152Uhm... Mate....
New GloboHomo watch advertisement magazine came in the mail today
>>18230160CW chads.... We can't stop winning.
>>18230160Tbh I think the Lumiere looks really great, not $2000 great but still.
>>18230157Spanish>>18230158Yeah it looks a little fucked up but I do parks work so it's gonna happen. Few extra scratches
>>18230164>are you sure this will help us sell watches?
>>18230167>...watches?
>>18230168>......watches?
>>18230166Increíblemente basado
>>18230174Gracias anon
>>18230168sad
>>18230178>only one picture of straight white women in the magazine>it's a vintage swatch ad
>>18230178the old GMT Master is so fucking based
>>18230164>Dear Christopher Ward, I just wanted to let you know; marketing your watch as cheaper than a brand already known for being the second choice for people who can't afford luxury items - is a real beta move. A real weak look. Something to be ashamed of.I would never have considered your brand in the first place, as the logo design alone suggests a contemporary, post modern bauhause design language - relying heavily on minimalist motifs and philosophic derived from socialist post-war group-think. No one wants to romanticize the current era, and your watches encapsulate that concept to the point of idolization.Your magazine, ripe with western guilt and oriental fetishism, casts the mere presence of social outliers, such as third world negros and homosexuals as a subject matter worthy of adoration. An art form in itself. And your watches mimic this ideal.For me, I'll be buying a proper brand, like vintage Rolex, like my father wore on his Yatch, the "Golden Shag". A brand that does not champion UN race mixing agendas, or a faux strength in a deluded identity. Sincerely - Chad Chuddsly Maximilian Maxwell IV. Esquire.PS, I'm white.
>>18230202>Your brand betrays your degeneracyBased
>>18230211>Legal weed>Purple global market watch
>>18230211>trident hand>logo that looks like unemployment agency logoThe branding is so shit on these. Hire an actual designer who will make something coherent. Why the trident? It's not even a nautical brand.
>>18230202Holy based
>>18230217Spot on with the logo lol
>>18230202send it fr
>>18229984Beat up my uncle
>>18230248For the last time, he's not your uncle, he's your step-father. And would it kill you to call him "Dad" once in a while? He doesn't like being referred to by his first name by his real sons, why should you get to call him Deepak?
>>18230216Why is CW the globohomo watch brand?
>>18230283That award would go to Tissot, but they're too cheap, they need to be upper market to maintain their narcissism.
>>18230248Based Doylestown anon
Post goal watches. For me, it's this with a steel strap.
>>18230292lmfao how poor are you???? lel
>>18230217>Why the trident? It's not even a nautical brand.I think they're embarrassed by it and slowly phasing it out of anything that isn't the Trident (their dive watch), but yeah real branding problem.
>>18230152That's the thing, it's mineral glass. I saw on amazon they sell protectors specifically for this watch.
Damn Invicta
>>18229794Poorfag looking for something a cheap but decent watch. Preferably it would have a simple face, clean straight lines for the hands and the metal would be gold (fake gold, I can't afford the real shit) and a darker brown leather strap.
You can instantly receive any watch in the world, from a regular production model to a one-of-a-kind piece like Alberto Santos-Dumont's personal Cartier, but only under the following conditions:- you can never sell it- you must wear it for at least two days every week- upon receipt, you must drink 1L of water from the River Ganges and you may not receive any medical attention or treatment for the next month. What do you do?
>>18230325>Bezel doesn't turn
>>18230327I would politely decline the offer, I've got all the watches I expect to buy and anything beyond this is just silly anyway
>>18229794Where to get Hamilton metal bracelets that aren't made by pajeets or chinks?
>>18230332It's a hamilton, why are you being so picky?
>>18230335Read my question again. Think about it. Then, if you have a useful answer, post it.
>>18230336Who else do you want it to be made by?
I finally figured out how to wear a watch without looking like a dork, I just had to take off my eyeglasses
Alright lads, which one do I go for... they all have their plusses and minuses...
>>18230351Lower right. Not even close.
>>18229820My grandpa showed me an older Hamilton of his and proudly said that it was "Made in the USA." I felt bad explaining to him what the "Swiss Made" on the dial meant.
>>18230320Oh shit, good looking. I'll definitely look at picking one of those up. Thanks for the tip
>>18230351are you that guy >>18227612 ?Go for the Hamilton, it's the OG. The others are homages.
>>18230351also, see >>18229863
>>18230353>>18230386Yeah that's me >>18230388Ah didn't see this beforeI do like the Hamilton and it is the classic, my only issue with it is it's not solar and the automatic is too expensive...
>>18230342apparently anon wants a J.P. Ecoffey for his $350 shitter
>>18230396The hand-winding one is the best one. Try to find an older version (the one that has the plain H on the crown) since that has the better, plastic-free movement.Hand-winding a watch is not a hassle. You wind it up in the morning when you put it on and you're good to go.Personally, I like hand-winding better than automatic since, without a power reserve, I never quite know if I wore the watch enough to leave it running for 24 hours if I want to wear a different watch. When I wind up my watch in the morning, I know it has another 50 hours regardless of whether I wear it or not.Hand-winding movements are also typically thinner, making a more comfortable watch, and mechanically simpler, making them easier and cheaper to service.
>>18230292LOL POOR LOSER
>>18230292This guy >>18230327 posted it.The Privee Collection Cartier Tank Normal in platinum.
>>18230351Hammy is the only one with an actual brand name, despite it being poor retard brand, you can say that House had it in the show at some point at least.
>>18230401hmm that does sound quite good, I hadn't even given the mechanical one proper consideration desu
>>18230401>better than automatic since, without a power reserve, I never quite know if I wore the watch enough to leave it running for 24 hours if I want to wear a different watch. When I wind up my watch in the morning, I know it has another 50 hours regardless of whether I wear it or not.Why not handwind your automatic watch?
>>18230425NTA but if it happens to be a 2824 movement then hand-winding causes a considerable amount of wear.
>>18230438Not just the 2824, the 7750 also famously does not like being hand-wound.The winding mechanisms in nearly all automatic movements have huge mechanical advantage because of the small amount of torque the winding rotor imparts. When hand winding any automatic, users are advised to wind their watches more slowly than they would a hand-winding movement and, typically, just to the point where the movement starts running, then put the watch on and let it wind further via the automatic winding.
>>18230351Citizen.Either go solar quartz or go home. Cheap swatch (chinkmade) "Hamilton" isn't worth the extra money.
>>18230351citizen is the least cringe despite being xbox huge, so that tells you something about the others
>>18230474the citizen only looks huge because that poster didn't resize it in paint like the others
why are ppl trying to psyop me into liking christopher ward?
>>18230495Take the lumepill
>>18230497Something about those ceramic indices really gets me going. They're charging way too much for this model though.
>>18230495How? It's a globo gayo company did you not see the manual?
I've only used cheap 20-30$ watches and want to try a real one. I prefer a leather strap, any recommendations for someone with a 8 inch wrist?
>>18230569Lose weight.
>>18230533that anon is a monkeypoxxedass homo from sweden of course they like chrward and homos
>>18230569You'll have to give more than just a wristwidth. There's a gorillion watches that would fit that description.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51b0RHVP400&t=31mreal rolex?
watches are reddit consumerismit's not your personal magic totem it's just an outdated piece of techyou all got psyopped by swiss marketers to lust for something utterly useless and redundant
so /wt/?
When did you realize mechanical watches having soul was a lie sold to you by marketers?
>>18230582>when swiss marketers convinced me to use my gshock to time my cooking
rolexbros...
>>18230599This freaks me out because I live in San Francisco and Union Square isn't even a dangerous part of the city. Like, I have Versace pants I probably won't even wear now. Fuck.
>>1823059210
>>18230599wouldn't have happened with a parmigianivacheronlangemosergerbil forsayseikoseagull
Kofe time.
>>18230592images like this should be gif
>>18230599plebbit says its okay to wear rolex in sf are they correct?
>>18230626plebbit is propaganda
>>18230569>8 inch wrist leather strapPanerai or Bell and Ross
>he doesn't own a Vacheron Constantin peacoatngmi
>>18230642Never buy watches from clothing brands.Never buy clothing from watch brands.Simple as.
Let me foretell, you "need" more?
>>18230643B-b-but g shock is working on a clothing like and they might actually come up with something cool.Actually now that I think of it'll probably be edgy street wear for teenagers. But one can dream.
>>18230643You are wrong as fuck.
>>18230595Never had to realize that because I'm not blind like you mass of retards and I could always recognize a CAD shitter.
>>18230592Assuming much?
>>18230353>>18230386>>18230404>>18230459>>18230474The duality of man...
>le no quartz brand>has to actually time something, uses quartzThe irony of poop brands BTFOing themselves
>>18230652the ocean of piss....
>>1823059210 but I skipped all the other steps after 1
>>18230654Lmao @ poolex
>>18230654>Oyster Perpetual with fluted bezel and no second handKINO.Rolex needs to release this.
>>18230654>no quartz brandExcept for the 30ish years when they were.
>>18230401>Try to find an older version (the one that has the plain H on the crown) since that has the better, plastic-free movement.Could you elaborate more on this? Are there any other identifiers? Build years?I assume in picrel top is the old version and bottom is the new version?
>>18230659They hated that watch. It's like a child born from rape.
>>18230663They hated it so much that they kept making it for decades. Rolex was also one of the swiss watchmakers that worked on the beta21, a quartz movement.
>mechanical Hamilton has 50m water resistance oof forget that one lads, I want something I can swim with so needs 100m at least
What is the quintessential Rolex? Datejust or Submariner?
>>18230679>quintessential RolexOyster Perpetual. Iconic? I would say DJ36 on jubilee silver dial. The Submariner is a close second.
>>18230685Based literate anon.
>poolex
>>18230675They started hating it at some point. Rolex from that 30 years time period had nothing to do with nuRolex.
>>18230685Based retard
Thoughts on Zenith? Why are they so expensive, is it the el primero tax?
>>18230706>Thoughts on Zenith?A few nice designs (if you don't mind 4:30 date windows).Retarded movements. 5Hz = more frictions = shorter service intervalsMany horror stories from Zenith owners online. >Why are they so expensive, is it the el primero tax?They're Swiss made with in house movements. I find their price point reasonable.
>>18230712>5Hz = more frictions = shorter service intervalsNot gonna say that this is cope but it's compensated for.>Many horror stories from Zenith owners online.I will take my previous statement back if you can provide me with a source
>>18228988I'm glad I memed someone into buying that CredorGood watch tho
>>18230706Buy a vintage Zenith Stellina, top-tier dress watch, more iconic than a Calatrava, and you'll find it for few hundreds euros.
>>18230719What's the ID????
>>18230599HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How do we respond, Rolex sisters?
>>18230720>Zenith Stellina>more iconic than a Calatravalmao
>>18230599>>18230732Well deserved.
>>18230734Calamerda was (and is) worn by a few wheelchaired millionaires nobody even knows. Zenith Stellina was worn by millions of employees of the upper bourgeois everyday. It's more iconic.
>>18230741First of all, that's not what iconic means.And second of all, Zenith has never produced "millions" of Stellina.
>>18230743ζenith bros, our response?
>>18230745He's wrong.>>18230743What's special about the Calamerda? It's a literal piece of shit with 12 sticks applied on.Zenith Stellina is the same, but it was actually bought, worn and used by millions of people, especially well-off Europeans.I don't care about what you or other people mean by "iconic". A watch is made iconic by two things: advertising and the people who wear it.Calamerda is worn by no one. Zenith Stellina was the watch of the burgeois working class. It has been seen everywhere, millions of times.Go act like le connoisseur in some faggy shithole, not here.
More like Pajeet Filthippe kek
Should I buy this watch for CAD$4000?
>>18230757CAD? CAD shitters? Nope.Buy the same but good.
>>18230748>What's special about the Calamerda?It's the watch that saved Patek in the early 1930s. It set the codes for wrist watches at a time pocket watches were the norm. It's also one of the first standardized wrist watch you could buy on the spot. Before that watches were made on demand (especially from brands like Patek or Vacheron). >Zenith Stellina is the same, but it was actually bought, worn and used by millions of people, especially well-off Europeans.Again, Zenith has never produced "millions" of Stellina. More like a few thousands. There are a lot more Calatrava out there than Stellina.
>>18230762Calamerda = watch for cucks who love to spend ridiculous amounts for money in exchange for the epitome of shit.Stellina = probably a shit watch (with better branding and better advertising tho) which has become more iconic than kike crap.It's really this simple.
>btfo your submariner
>>18230748>literal who watch worn by europoors little better than proles and miners>survivng pieces did so because they were lucky enough to be chucked in a drawer and forgotten about rather than discarded as trash like most of the ones madeVS>the watch that made wristwatches acceptable for men to wear instead of pockets>the quintessential mens wristwatch such that every single watch made immediately after it was made because of and in reaction to it>simple elegance of design that works in every era>accurate and beautifully finished movements exhibiting exquisite craftsmanship>treasured possessions that were worth retaining through the decades>worn by kings, emperors, industrial magnates who dictated style and trends in menswear>still valued today and still considered the yardstick by which all mens "dress" watches are measuredYour choice White Man.
>>18230765wow that's nasty, is that all plastic?
>>18230766>literal who watch worn by europoors little better than proles and minersyou're no writer, that's for sure.
>>18230768>triggered brown "european" hands typed this
>>18230764>more iconicLook man, it's fine if Zenith is your favorite brand or whatever but you're the only dude in the known universe who believe the Zenith Stellina is more iconic than the Patek Calatrava.
>>18230767Yes and G-Shock also is.
>>18230775Calamerda = bad kike shitStellina = average European man's watch in the 60s-70sIt's really this simple.
>>18230757That actually looks amazing.Judging from /wt/, GS owners have more sex than everyone else. Go for it.
>>18230679>Datejust or Submariner?36mm Two-Tone DJ, on Jubilee bracelet with champagne dialThis is what most normies think when they picture a Rolex.
>>18230781Based.
>>18230757>>18230813>the only "OK" looking Grand Soikope is a Calatrava knock-offThe absolute state of GSfags.
>>18230822Do you think PP invented dauphine hands?
>>18230827Do you think that GS wasn't HEAVILY inspired by the Patek I posted?
>>18230830I don't know. Maybe it was inspired by IWC? Maybe Omega? Maybe dauphine hands were extremely common across all brands in the mid 20th century, including Seiko in the 60s when GS launched. Even Rolex had someDo you think PP invented it?
>>18230834I never said anything about dauphine hands. Why do you keep mentioning dauphine hands?
>>18230835Then what feature or combination of features makes the GS a knockoff of your PP redial and not, say, an early GS, or an IWC, or hundreds of other watches?
>>18230837>applied faceted indices (doubled at 12)>central second hand>dauphine hands>round case with integrated lugs (ie not welded) All of these are key features of the 570 Calatrava.
>>18230843But I thought we weren't allowed to talk about dauphine hands?I'm not even sure what to say about central seconds. PP invented central seconds. Ok then
>>18230845>But I thought we weren't allowed to talk about dauphine hands?It's one features among others. The addition of all these features are what make the 570 recognizable.
>>18230848Any 3 hander with dauphine hands is a "patek" to you, even though the case, dial, crystal, indeces, rehaut, second markers, metal, and applied vs printed logo are totally different, not to mention that the secondhand is a distinctly different shape, maybe time to just accept that you're reaching
>>18230822>>18230827>>18230830>>18230834>>18230835>>18230837>>18230843>>18230845>>18230848>>18230852Buy a Gucci and stop shitting up the thread.
>>18230852Well, you can make a 3 handers without>applied faceted indices (doubled at 12)>central second hand>dauphine hands>round case with integrated lugs (ie not welded)If a brand makes a diver with mercedes hands and a 3 links bracelet, everyone will call it a Submariner copy.If a brand makes a dress watch with a flipping case, everyone will call it a Reverso copy.Is GS immune to criticism or something?
>>18230863Spamming/flooding.Trolling outside of /b/.This post appears to be an automated spambot.This post is extremely low quality.Avatar or signature use.
>>18230867>Is GS immune to criticism or something?In this case yes, because the Calamerda is neither an original nor a ground-breaking design.It's literally 12 fucking sticks glued onto a dial.
>>18230867I have plenty of gripes with GS as a brand both in terms of the direction they're taking and some of the design choices they make, but "it's a copy of this holy trinity frankenfake I found on ebay from 1960" is just a weird angle to take. VC has been doing the same style for nearly a century and I don't see you calling it a ripoff of PP or for that matter calling the GS a ripoff of VC, it's like you just found out about PP from a YT video and need to talk about it, so, glad we could have this talk bro...
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>>18230872>calling >>18230822 a fake just to ignore the pointThe 570 is a well documented watch. Hundreds of models available, thousands of pictures online. You're just being dishonest.And yes, VC followed Patek's steps. They had to change their whole business model when Patek came out with the ref. 96 in the 1930s.
>>18229888I posted this and then a football player got shot in the chest for his Rolex the next day
>>18230885So what you're saying is, a 2024 grand seiko inspired by a 1960s grand seiko inspired by a 1950s seiko marvel inspired by the "generic 3 hand swiss midcentury wristwatch" inspired by possibly VC or PP circa 1935, perhaps both, is bad because if you go all the way back, it can be said that the 2024 watch is not a completely original design spawned by immaculate conception in a perfect vacuum? That certainly is a point of view
the ocean of piss.....
>>18230888What I find weird is to refuse to acknowledge the Calatrava is an original Patek design. Nobody's denying the Tank is Cartier's own thing or the Submariner is Rolex's own thing. But when it comes to the Calatrava (which has very distinctive key features) people assume it's the default watch design you can copy without ever being called for.If anything, this says a lot about the Calatrava's influence on watchmaking.
>>18230902People in online watch communities tend to get argumentative when claims are made that so-and-so invented a thing because so often, those claims are questionable and only became "consensus" because for decades the marketing literature was printed by manufacturers and "if it's in print it must be true", even if many of them were not just dubious but factually wrong like rolex acting like it invented everything ever to tell timeIf we were talking about a set of somewhat distinctive, niche features like rotating bezels or cyclops date, then you might have a point, but plain 3-hander was already a generic design decades before the first grand seiko, so you might as well claim that the PP is a ripoff of cartier and has no legitimate claim on inventing the 570 since consensus is that cartier was the first to put a watch on a strap and sell it as a wrist piece and basically when you look at them side by side, it's the same design (aside from being completely different in every way)
>>18230902Why are you surprised to see that anon is just digging his heels in? This is 4chan. No one argues in good faith.
>>18230613This. That's why the wealthy folks choose non identifiable brands.
>>18229794>QUARTZ VERSION OF OUR MOST POPULAR MODEL THAT WE WILL SELL FOR HALF THE PRICE - EDITIONis there a GRAND Seiko for that?
>>18229861>Swiss companies that went out of business because of the quartz crisis?almost all of them except those bought out by /fa/ brands or some globohomo corpo?
>>18229888>who would kill for 5kpeople who would kill you for a watch that super hard to resell for MSRP, and the kinda retards who will stab you anyway if they find out your Swatch watch is even more worthless.it's like asking if Talibans stopped graping wahmen after they forced them to cover up with rags.
>>18230969Grand Coipo
>>18230973Don't talk shit about talibans, they're super based.
>>18229888Just be brown so they'll feel bad about stabbing you for your watch
>>182307124:30 date is unforgivable
what's everyone's opinion on Ball?They seem to be making pretty nice stuff in house but they're just never talked about
>BEAUTIFUL NAMES:Rolex, Jaeger Le-Coultre, Casio, Panerai, Longines, Piaget, Cartier, Breguet, Breitling, Baume & Mercier, Girard Perregaux, Vacheron Constantin, Ulysse Nardin, Angelus, Boucheron, Gucci, Bulgari, Breil, Rexhep Rexhepi, Wyler Vetta, Vulcain, Zenith, Zodiac, TAG Heuer>SHIT-TIER NAMES:Omega, Tissot, Orient, Citizen, Credor, Grand Seiko, Homos, Glashütte, Studio Underd0g, Junghans, Timex, Hamilton, Garmin, Richard Mille, Christopher Ward, Hublot, IWC, Bell & Ross, Maurice Lacroix, A. Lange & Söhne, Oris, Blancpain, Rado, Roger Dubuis, Michael Kors, Alpina, Bulova, Glycine, Yema, Aquastar, Certina, Heuer Carrera, Ball
Do any of yall even Electroluminesce?
>>18230643Correct and I have this reasoning as a hard rule when making purchases. If you want shoes, jewelry, denim, sunglasses, luggage, outerwear etc. always go to a company that specializes in that specific thing.
>>18231021I bet you also eat a lot of memes
Thoughts on Moser?
>>18231050Garbage.
GST-B600...
>>18231050Brand that decided to make memes instead of good watches.
>>18231050Watches for midwits.
>>18231055*Zombie brand
>>18231054If only the hands and hour markers were not designed to rape my eyes...
>>18231057It's weird though. It's undeniably a zombie but the brain of the one of the original owner's descendants was transplanted into it and that brain is full of watchmaking knowledge because that family never left the watch industry during the 90yrs removal from the brand. They don't make a lot of watches, it's all actually swiss made rather than "swiss" and their designs aren't the typically staid stuff you'd just go elsewhere for anyway.I'm more interested in the brand than I was before despite the "history".
>>18231067Bro it's just a shitter brand for fat russian moneybags. Move on.
Remember when watches were good?
>>18231067That's not "weird". That's marketing. Lange did the same thing when they were resurrected. They found some 80 year old codger with the last name Lange and propped it up as being a family business being restarted.None of this changes the fact that the watches they do churn out are tasteless pablum for people who need their watch to stand in for their lack of personality.
>>18231083Yeah. You weren't here.
>>18231083>Remember when watches were good?Nobody ITT is that old, not even Mort or OD.
>>18231087How old is OD?@LoreTadello
>>18231067So it's just another sour grapes scenario from the poories? I really like what I read about moser. Can't find a single red flag.
>>18231067>their designs aren't the typically staid stuff you'd just go elsewhere for anyway.Most of their watches are 3 handers in 40mm with flashy dial colors. They're your typical "smart casual" 2010s/2020s watches. The Streamliner has an interesting bracelet though. Their uniqueness comes from their ironic marketing.
Thoughts on Credor? They're going international slowly but surely.
>>18230327>Gangesthis question is basically>what kind of watch would you like to be buried with
>>18230646I see a face that i can't unsee.
>>18230659Best looking Rolex.
>>18231091Late 40s
>>18230757Yes.
>>18231103No fucking way. What makes you said that? How old is whoretadello?
>>18231094More slowly than surely.
>>18231050I really like mine. Probably going to get a 39mm venturer soon too
>>18231117that sure is a watch
>>18231111 (Checked)>How old is whoretadello?Early- to mid-30s
>>18231117A-are those hollow endlinks?
>18228870300 to 800>18228872About 4 of them are just sitting under the day and date wheel to ease their movement.
>>18231117Woah, are you sure that's not a calatrava cope?>faceted indices doubled at 12>central seconds hand>integrated lugs>skeletonized vaguely diamond shaped(dauphine) hands
>>18231117How the hell did you make your wrist bigger?
>>18231111>No fucking way. What makes you said that?Because he said as much. He mentioned turning 40 "a couple years ago" in a post he made before the coof. At the very youngest, that would make him 46.
>>18231124>Still seething
>>18231122I never took a picture before swapping to the bracelet, but no they're solid. Brogioli makes nice stuff, with the quick adjust being one of the best I've had on a watch.
>>18231124top kek>>18231126I think you're confusing me with someone else
>SEXO>E>X>O
>>18231141Looks like a hot topic watch.
>>18231117>>18231129Am I the only one who think this looks pretty bad for a 15k watch?
>>18231157Looks like an AliExpress DIY kit.
>>18231157You will probably never have to worry about that.Hey don't forget, black friday sales are in less than two months!
>>18231129>>18231117CMC Anon is back. Based.
>>18231157I like the blue color, but otherwise it looks way too plain for me. But then again my collection is quite reprehensible too.If it makes the owner happy I'd say its all good.
>>18231173>Takes the bus
>>18231117#MoserGang
>>18231222
Imagine buying a watch, posting it on /wt/, and having Roachadello buying the same one and trying to befriend you.I would unironically sell it immediately.
>>18231085Lange was 66. Regardless, difference is that the current moser owner and ceo is descendant of Moser's partner is an actual watch industry guy having worked at AP etc., in the past. The guy they used to actually restart moser 20yrs ago was a literal who that just happened to be related to the original Moser as far as I can ascertain.I've been rethinking the Lange false history thing:In trying to determine just what exactly old Walter contributed to the actual creation of the first 4 lange models I couldn't find anything concrete, just a bunch of fluff which made me think he only contributed his name. I may thumb through his biography to see if there's anything relevant.HOWEVER, the more I thought about it, it kinda doesn't matter. He could've said "no" to the IWC guy and so Walt's then recently re-registered Lange watchco. would've gone nowhere. He even had to register is at a friend's house since the government wouldn't return to him his family's factory (they had to buy it back later with investor money).From all accounts he was instrumental in rejiggering the Glasshuette watchmaking industry. A figurehead can be incredibly useful. The remaining watchmakers, who at that point had been retired by the quartz crisis and eastgerman general collapse, only trickled back to work because an actual Lange was asking them to come back and use their skills in the new company. It's kinda sad when I think about it. The guy hadn't done any watch-related work for maybe 30 years, had been retired for 15 by that point and all he could contribute was the family name in the effort of reclaiming his family legacy. Maybe that's enough because Lange's the largest employer in the rebuilt glasshutte fine watchmaking region.TL;DRI used to care more about this shit, but the only question I'm coming back to is "do the watches speak for themselves despite the name?"They speak more than groidrapwhore AP and patek because holy shit have they lost the plot.
For me, its the Seiko TimeBox 360
>>18231157>"You never truly own an H. Moser & C., you simply take the hit at retail so the guy you sell it to can get a great deal on a nice watch"same goes for parmaham
>>18231232>Regardless, difference is that the current moser owner and ceo is a descendant of Moser's partner and is an actual watch industry guy having worked at AP etc., in the past. The guy they used to actually restart moser 20yrs ago was a literal who that just happened to be related to the original Moser as far as I can ascertain.fixed for clarity
>>18231229Cheer up man, life isn't that bad.
>he doesn't own a sexy vintage OmegaWhat's your excuse?
>>18231255I get enough attention from gay men already. I wish I was trolling.
>>18231255But I do
>>18231141>when the designer's thinly veiled fetish bleeds into their work
>>18231222After seeing the purple and gold one, that other anon and now this one they're basically everything I'm looking for in a watc->They're $20,000-30,000Nevermind.
>>18231274Based. I love these. Does it keep good time?
>>18231284Thanks anon. Around +10s a day
>>18231157Everyone (except a couple of terminally retarded bugmen) here thinks that watch looks horrid.
>>18231293If you say it a couple more times then it might become true.
NEW THREAD WHEN
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I don't think I can resist much longer.
>>18231309>>18231313THIS ONE ISN'T EVEN AT BUMPCAP AND THERE ARE 3 OTHER WATCH THREADS >ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhI'm calling Mr. Casio. He wouldn't allow this level of non-precision to happen.
>>18231315You're just seething because you wanted to make a watch thread with your ugly Grand Soikope in the OP.
>>18231324I don't have a grand seiko nor do I ever make these threads.
>>18231157And to think whoretadello could have gotten himself a real watch (for his standards) instead of that piece of shit moser.
>>18231371>spring drive>real watchlollmao
>>18230217>>logo that looks like unemployment agency logohave a (You) for the sick burn, I'm stealing this
>>18230092I have the titanium version, yea its a good watch for under 200 dollars. They were like 750 to a grand back in the 80s. If your paying more than 200 your getting ripped off though. Just buy it off a yahoo jp
