Trump in jeans editionGeneral discussion of all things denim, workwear, heritage & Americana.>>Previous thread >>18298099
>>18303171Can anybody give me some good women's selvedge recommendations? I want to get my wife a pair for christmas and her preferred cuts usually have a rise of 13-14", thigh of 12", and hem of 7.5-8.5". So far, I've found N&F classic cut for women in their natural indigo selvedge, but I just want to get some more options
>>18303197Left Field has a women's cut
The hunt for great black denim continues. Ordered 3 pair to try out:>Red Tornado 601B black/whiteI had a chance to try Freewheeelers 601Bs on, which these are a copy of, but they weren't my size. Hopefully these come close in terms of fit and construction quality.>Sauce Zhan SZ6601-BL black/blackMeasurements look really promising on these. Akin to a 501 with more thigh room. These would also be my first pair of 16oz jeans. Everything else has been either 14 or 21+>Sugar Cane 1947 black/whiteHad a pair of these in indigo that I really liked and then saw Hinoya had a black version in stock. Opted for these over the SE black x black because paying $300 for Sugar Cane is fucking stupid. May as well just buy Samurai's for that money
I've been buying Japan made clothing through Rakuten a lot this year. Are there any other websites I should be checking that provide a large selection of Jap denim, boots, jackets, etc?
>>18303197N&F is the only brand I've seen so far with womens cuts. Women typically don't like this stuff
>>18303202Is that all chink shit?
>>18303335Sugar Cane isn't
>>18303335Sugar Cane isn't. The other two are. But Jap brands' don't make black jeans often enough or in the right cuts to get them reliably, and western brands are all cut for beer guts, so I'm turning to chinks. If this doesn't work, then I'll just shell out $400 for Rubatos and call it a day.
If you had to start a denim brand what would your gimmick be in order to stand out
>>18303370A third leg that sits between the other two legs and drags along the ground
>>18303370Japan made 1940s-60s 501 repros using actual poly/cotton thread for added durability, and denim weights ranging from 12-16 oz. I fucking love repros, but don't want to have to repair the backpockets or crotch threads every year. The 12-16 oz denim weight would also give a really nice range of options for weights while still being within the ballpark of producing "drape"
*effortlessly mogs you*
Where do you buy heavy-duty hangers for heavier jackets, jeans, etc? Woodlore makes some but they're apparently Chinese imports
>>18303475Ikea suit hangers for like 2 bucks a piece or something.
>>18303475oh and S-hooks for the jeans
>>18303197womens body shapes vary more than mens do in that region bc they have bigger hips and butts and such. usually not always which makes it even harder. womens jeans are SO much more body shape dependent than you're used to. on top of that there's more variety to the type of fits women wear and women tend to be really be looking for a specific look/fit when they buy jeans. >So far, I've found N&F classic cut for womenif you guys like that cut look at the tcb 50's norma cut too its my favorite women's cut and it works on a wide range of bodies. >Recsthis plebbit thread has all the ones i was gonna list off, and more:https://old.reddit.com/r/rawdenim/comments/g7d8cm/updated_raws_for_women/>Morea lot of men's cuts just work on women. especially 2010core cuts. sometimes they squish the butt though. female celebs wear vintage levis with the waist darted or taken in all the time chrome hearts does it too you can find pics of those to see the alterations they do. pic related is a girl wearing iron heart 888's. my girlfriends ranging from thicc egirl mommy to skinny anorexic girls back when emos existed have all looked super good in my 2010 jeans. they all try to steal my momotaros. for this reason if you live near a retailer/boutique like a self edge or something, even if they only carry men's stuff you should take her there and try shit on.
>>18303370repro + modern product line.modern line doesn't shy away from being fashion forward and experimental.repro line doesn't only come in raw and historically accurate it also comes in washes, hand distressed (with a brand focus on perfecting this) and more interesting fabrics and dying techniques than simply trying to reproduce old levis.but i would also do that as well, to the highest standard.basically i would stand out by serving every type of customer and being faster moving to trends.
>>18303515also heavy focus on sashiko and embroidery across the board.
>>18303171how many of you guys in this thread are /fa/ oldfags? i've been posted on and off in here since about 2012. don't really care about fashion as much anymore, i just like clothes. also the waywt threads are laughably bad now but maybe they were always like that
>>18303510I’ve actually taken my wife to the Portland self edge a few times to try stuff on. Bought her a pair of the Buzz Rickson field trousers which fit her great. She’s tried on my pair of 888s and Flat Head 3004s as well as a pair of sugarcane 1947s. She doesn’t like them because of how the crotch area on men’s jeans will bundle up to her lack of penis. She’s not fat and actually has a slightly muscular build with high hips, so she always needs to have a minimum of 13” rise. I think the naked and famous classic cuts are probably the closest thing I’m going to get to
Picking up red tornado detroit jacket from mailbox tomorrow and i'm obsessing that i ordered the wrong size, i'm 6'1 and went with a size large. Measurements seemed fine when i measured everything but idk
>>18303562i've been here since anime jpegs got banned on something awful
>>18303610aliexpress has been doing a way better job of making returns pain free.taobao's another story.
>>18303617The gooniform
>>18303610Probs gonna be on the small side of things I'm same height, and got red tornado denim jacket in XXL, which fits perfect
>>18303647Shit. Well I'll see how it goes. Never ordered from China so didn't know how it would work out.
>>18303647Are you a wide guy? Coz that's the other thing, I'm 6'1 but only about 165lbs. Ah hell I'll see it tomorrow. Truth is spending the money on a new jacket was a big deal but hopefully the return is easy like the other anon said.
>>18303666I'm 200lbs, so you should be fine assuming sleeves are long enough, gl
>>18303370brave star prices & fabrics but better cuts.namely proper relaxed and straight fits. maybe a 13mwz copy too.i field like a brand like that could really compete with a big chunk of the marketalso for the love of god we need more proper type 2 jacket repros.
>>18303171Do only Levi’s 511s have two different stitching colors? The photo doesn’t show it well, but the arch and parts of the belt loops have whiter stitching, while the rest is more yellow/orange. I have a Levi’s trucker jacket that has similar stitching. Is there a name for this?
Zesty or nah?
>>18303610I'm around 6ft with a 44 inch chest, 36 inch waist and my large fits fine.
>>18303562I've been on 4chan since 2007 when I was 11. Been shit posting on /fa/ since it's inception near enough. And I'll probably never stop.
>>18303897Ok I admit it, I'm 5'11.99999999 in timbs and cowboy hat.I think they might have American and Asian sizing versions of the Detroit. The sizing isn't necessarily consistent between products.
1955 restock never.
Lol just washed a pair of 16oz jeans on semi low spin cycle with a towel and shit and they got the fattest chalk lines everI dont care too much but goddamn
>>18303903Speaking f which, does anyone here actually have 1955s?
>>18303588post her fit dude this sounds like bullshit
>>18303891Zesty af only if you pair it with this.
>>18303977I mean, just lmao
>>18304098All over the back too kek
>>18304098Ouch. Did you put them inside out?
>>18304098>>18304104Imagine washing jeans in a washing machine.
>>18303977>>18304098>>18304104I did this with one of my 14 oz Type IIIs. Literally never had an issue with putting my jeans in on the lowest spin cycle, but one day it just fucking chewed up my jacket and I was so fucking pissed. Ended up giving it to my brother because I hated wearing it after that. Lesson learned. ALWAYS wash on no spin and just pat your jeans in a towel and hang dry.
>>18303562Sadly I have been on the chon since middle school in 2010. I love it and hate it at the same time.
>>18304171Also I forgot to ask, any higher rise straight leg recs with like 1 percent stretch?
>>18304166You could have just dyed it black or something and it would have become as good as new.
>>18304178>high rise>straight leg>stretchWhat kind of a gay reason would you need stretch in a straight leg jeans?
>>18304098>>18304104This looks cool or am I crazy?
>>18304198I can post an update in about six months. Then they will look pretty cool. Right now they look kinda busted imo
>>18304184I crawl around a lot at work so a little stretch goes a long way. And the high rise is so my shirts don't come untucked.
>>18304198It will start to look cool with enough marbling.
Do some brands scent their denim or maybe packaging? I got a denim jacket and I can't tell if it was either tried on and returned by someone with strong perfume or if they scented the package to be hipster. Surely denim doesn't smell this nice.
>>18303562I migrated here from SomethingAwful after Lowtax kept banning me for not sucking his girlfriend's dick. Guess I had the last laugh.I didn't start posting in /fa till last year,just lurked.
>>18304098Iron and then just wear them. The dye will eventually work it's way back into the creases and they won't be as noticeable
Does Gustin usually take days to put your package in the mail?
>>18304322did you pre order something and not realize it?
>>18304336no it was an in stock item
>>18303977>>18304098looks sick keep going. marbled up jeans are awkward at first but promise you as they fade they'll look great.any time you machine wash with spin cycle on no matter what precautions you take there's a risk of marbling happening. that's why i used to tell everyone to hand wash, but it caused too many spergouts so i don't anymore.
>>18304451I wash my jeans on no spin cycle, take them out inmediately and hang them to dry. So far no marbling.
What are some workwear light/all season tops besides tees?
>>18304459Henley?
>>18304452no spin or hand washing you're 100% safe.a lot of cheaper or older washing machines don't let you disable the spin cycle tho so its hard to rec it as general advice.people with those type of machines can just timer it or stand there and pull their clothes out right when the spin cycle begins but its a pain in the ass.>>18304459lighter weight chambray.
>>18304459Oxford cloth button downs (OCBD), unironically. That shit can last for decades.
>>18304474>a lot of cheaper or older washing machines don't let you disable the spin cycleAah, gotta check my new washing machine priviledge.Years ago I left a pair of jeans in the washing machine for hours because I was being lazy and got some awful marbling because of that.
>>18303562I'm not a true originalfag to 4chan, didn't come from SA like those other anons did, but I was here within 6 months of the site starting, I remember when it switched from .net to .org. Not sure exactly when I started posting on /fa/ but it's been at least 10 years, I don't think I was on the board when it first opened like I was with some others like /o/, /k/, and /cgl/ though.
What's a good lightweight type 2? Something to wear up to 90 degrees to keep the sun off and get sick fades
Detroit jackets actually fits perfectly, I was nervous for nothing
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>>18304674It's very good quality, I'm very happy with it. For future information's sake and so this post shows up in the archive I am 6'1, around 165-170lbs. Pretty skinny with reasonably long limbs. I got a size large and it fits perfectly.Detroit jacket red tornado
Got my 17oz S3000s from Denimio. Very comfy and the fabric is excellent but it's gonna take time getting used to the lower rise (~11in)
>>18304671Looks great anon
There is a samurai leepro up on denimio but it's kinda slubby for my taste.https://www.denimio.com/en_US/S140VXJ.html?acgid=latest
>>18304724After finally getting a pair of left hand twill jeans i think I just don't like left hand twill. The exaggerated vertical falling is just too much imo.
Kind of a weird piece from FOB factory here. It's an oxford cloth button down but with work wear style triple needle stitching.https://www.denimio.com/en_US/F3502.html?acgid=latest
>>18304726Fabric looks nice but the construction doesn't do it for me.
>>18304474>people with those type of machines can just timer it or stand there and pull their clothes out right when the spin cycle beginsYeah I’ve accidentally let my jeans spin for a few minutes before I pulled them out. Inside out I didn’t get any marbling.
Got my Oni 15oz concrete selvedge in, fabric is beautiful. They're a bit wider than I'm hoping, just have them a hot wash to get some shrink out and they seem to have slimmed up a touch. I'll get some fit pics when they dry.They're darker in person than the pics on Bears show, pleasantly surprised there.
>>18305017Hows the fit?I wanted to try their 20oz secret denim jeans but they sold out in just a few days
Where's the 1955 restock
>>18305066Waiting on them to dry while I'm out wage cucking. I'll find out tonight when I get home.Prewash it's fantastic in the waist, thigh and seat, good rise too. Mid-high rise, about 12.5 inches, this is the relaxed fit model so it's a loose cut. Issue is it's really baggy from knee down. I've read multiple reviews saying them slim up slightly post wash so I'm optimistic. If not I'll only wear them with chunky boots.
>>18304676Do you usually get a large? Just wondering how true to size they are or if it’s Asian sizing
>>18305114Every time i pick a looser model there’s some kind of issue with the fit. I guess there’s a reason why the classic slim straight fit is so popularNever had a problem with legs being too baggy though. Im sure they will shrink. Although looking at the pictures i see what you mean.
>>18304700Picrel. This is about 5 hours of wear. Idk if I psyopped myself by only wearing 12+" rises for years, but something about the fit from the front seems off
>>18305219>cuffing the bottom to show off your selvedge>that belt+chain combosheesh
How's Oni's quality compared to Ironheart and Samurai's?
>>18305219Hell yeah man, been wearing the s3000 for the last month and a half. I wasn’t sure how I felt about it at first. For one, I’ve never really been into super textured denim, but after wearing it every day a lot of the slub and nep has smoothed out and the texture of the denim is starting to look very nice up close. Those look very good on you in my opinion. I’ve been wearing some Flat Head 3004 as my other pair and although I really like high rise cuts like those, I’m actually preferring the s3000 more because of how perfectly snug the top block feels on me for a mid rise pair. Honestly as someone who also has slightly larger thighs you’ve turned me onto the 1940s/50s cuts. I’ve decided to order a pair of fullcount 0105xx because of that
>>18305290Yeah, you turned me on to the 3004s and I agree, these are more comfortable up top despite the mid rise. Unironically the way they sit almost in my ass crack is a godsend for mobility.On the Full Counts, I have some black 0105s and I'm not a fan of the fit. They're comfortable but the seat is very low. Where the Samurai's are really snug in the seat, the full counts are really loose- like they sit on my hips rather than up at the waist. It could be a sizing issue though as I went with a 32 (same size as the sams) but realistically could have gone with a 31 instead.>the denim is starting to look very nice up closeGood to hear. I have some black jeans on the way ( >>18303202 is me) so may just end up rotating whichever I like most of the three with the Samurais to make some headway on fades.
>>18305333I obsessively checked size charts on the 0105xx and the waist size for a 34 seemed very comparable to my s3000. Even if it isn’t a perfectly snug top block, I can deal with it because I wear belts. Ive worn multiple pairs of samurais (s510xx and s520xx) and each one has had an unbelievably perfect-fitting top block with the exception of the rise being a bit low on the s510xx. I think they design their waist lines so that they kind of taper in a little bit, while making their thighs relatively large, giving you a snug top block with unmatched crotch mobility. Been wanting a pair of really nice wide cut repros and the 0105xx seemed to fit the bill best. Not a super big fan of 13 oz denim, so the 15.5 oz on the fullcounts looked perfect. I got a big bonus check from work, so I also copped a pair of Clinch Yeager boots from S&S lol. I think I’ve decided to lean more into 1940s repro. I’ve really been digging the contrast of narrow-toed footwear with a wide cut pair of pants
>>18305276great fabrics, step down from ih in construction similar to samurai. most of their cuts don't quite do it for me (on my body) but they make nice jeans. >>18305361>I think they design their waist lines so that they kind of taper in a little bit, while making their thighs relatively large, giving you a snug top block with unmatched crotch mobility.imo the most under-utilized knowledge in the denim community is top block fit. its criminal that its not standard to give full measurements of the top block and a clear high res photo of its shape and its silly to me that we don't have names for the common top block shapes. because they do play a major role in how jeans interact with your body and there's certain top block shapes that work better than others on certain body shapes. it would make buying jeans so much easier if they at least gave you a verbal descriptor of the shape like tapered, bell, straight, etc. excuse my ramblings about the denim ~community~>>18305234you wanna do a cuff about the size he has if you want to have no cuff after your first few washes. raws usually shrink up a bit in length the first wash or two even if they're 1wash unsanf or sanforized. >>18304669i'm so tempted to order the red tornado to replace my stolen jacket but i know the women's model fits me better.
>>18305290Also can you post a crotch pic of those sams? No homo, but I wanna see how the fabric settles there over time
>>18304098>>18304104Looks kind of cool. Only chance to save them now is to wash them a bunch to get some all-over vintage fades, or try overdying them with navy or black. Overdyed with navy might look really cool
>>18305290Just got the same color Ironheart N1 today. Perfect fit in XL, just baggy enough. Great rec from this thread
>>18305148Modern Carhartt fit I would be a medium, old Carhartt fit I could go either medium or large. I would say these red tornado jackets fit slightly large. Not sure about the other red tornado models though
>>18305689Sorry I meant that the red tornado jackets fit slightly small. But not that small desu
>>18305219You're the guy who wears women cuts, aren't you?
>>18305764I've got a pair of N&F classics if that's what you mean
>>18305017Post the pics already
>>18305797fuck off
>>18305368Red looks good
I’ve been hooked on Resolute for a while now. They only have four models:712 (14oz): a 505 repo with low waist and slim legs. 710 (14oz): classic 66’ straight. 711 (13oz): a medium rise with wide legs and the best back piece i ever worn. Seriously great pants714 (13oz): higher rise and lots of room around the hips. More comfortable than sweat pants imo. Feels like a classic dad fit. They are all really good jeans for everyday wear. Can recommend
>>18305890I've heard they size smaller than the tag size, is that true?
>>18305950I dont know. With japanese brands you always have to go for the measurments instead of the tag size. And even then its easy to pick the wrong size since the fabric expands different amounts. In my experience you always need to size down way more than you think.
Favourite non-japanese brands? I'm in need of some new jeans but I'm autistic about only buying my japan brands while I'm the country.
>>18305981>Non jap jeansGo for some meme like https://benzakdenimdevelopers.com/
>>18305981Here’s my MIUSA listUses US Denim: Ginew, Left Field, RoundhouseUses Japanese Demin: Freenote cloth, tellason, rogue territory, many more but those are my favorites
I got my herringbone denim from Left Field a couple of days ago and I gave them an iron. It looks way better in real life. The fabric has this iridescent quality to it when the white part of the herringbone disappears when you see it from a shallow angle.
How is he feeling today?
What stops you from just buying a couple of these? They are extremely comfortable for me at my office job, I can buy like 2 and it will last me at least 10 years
with all the jeans I wanna buy from the Japanese brands all being sold out all the fucking time I think I'm just gonna buy a Levi's and call it a day. I don't own jeans but this is fucking ridiculous how the top brands are all sold out constantly.
>>18306185I’m sure he’s literally shaking right now. I can post the full conversation I had with this homo if you want. Basically told him he’s disrespectful towards a customer’s ability to think for themselves when he makes a social media post explicitly telling people to “make the right choice” and vote for Kamala. If I’m spending $300+ on jeans and $700+ on jackets at their store, this guy is 100% expected to maintain a level of professionalism and not cross boundaries like that, and if he does cross those boundaries then the customer is well within their lane to respond negatively and give him the feedback he deserves. Long live Self Edge
>>18306223pretty sure he mentioned you in a subsequent story post lol
>>18306198Because they're stretch garbage made with sub par cotton hand have sub par aesthetic quality. There is actually a huge gap between expensive denim and something from gap. Besides the stretch will degrade and they won't last you 10 years.
>>18303384>actual poly/cotton threadIs this considered better than 100% cotton?
>>18306228For real? You got a screen cap of that? I’m sure he conveniently selected a tiny portion of the conversation that benefits his position and makes him looked based
>>18306262nah I forgot to get one, it was just him thanking all the positive messages he got, except the one negative guy that I assume was you lol
Sugar Cane should be very good, if I'm not mistaken.
>>18306223>>18306262>mister freedom posted his ballot>voted republican except he wrote in his Poodle for presidentFine, that's good enough in California.
american-spun denim should be placed right in the trash as it has been for the past 50 yearsenjoy paying the government more for foreign competence, burgers
>>18306289BUY AMERICANHIRE AMERICAN
>>18306260It's more durable.
>>18306266Tommy Dant is not a very smart person. I let him know that although he is posturing that he’s on fine ground because of how many people have reached out in support of his statement, he actually doesn’t know how many people he’s completely turned off and excluded from his business. Those people are more likely to just not say anything, it’s socially safer to be like, “YAASSSS QUEEN”. He’s essentially demonstrated that he not only is incredibly unprofessional and disrespectful toward his customers, but that he’s extremely immature due to his inability to refrain from making an unnecessary political sponsorship on his business platform, crossing an unacceptable professional boundary (regardless of who he is specifically promoting). There are at least 10 other retailers in the US that sell Japan heritage clothing that aren’t pulling the same antics. I would much rather support a clothing retailer that isn’t going to shove their political beliefs down my throat if I’m spending hundreds to thousands of dollars at their store
>>18306284>voted republican except he wrote in his Poodle for presidentDoes that vote count or is it null?
>>18306297>muh fascist dictatorman these fucking clowns are unreal
>>18306297As much as I agree with your points I bet you wouldn't be as pissed had he shown support for the republicans. Perhaps you'd be even praising him for doing it. So basically you're as much of a moron as he is.
>>18306289What jeans do you enjoy anon
>>18306304No, just read my post. It doesn’t matter who he’s promoting. He’s dumb because he’s unable to control his impulses and he’s willing to damage his dream business to some degree because of that. He actually has something on the line he’s willing to risk, whereas I don’t and it’s actually well within my right as a customer to tell him he’s being ridiculous and disrespectful and that I’m never supporting his business again. It’s called the free market.
>>18306289MAKE CONE MILLS GREAT AGAIN
Reminder all the "made in America" cone mills denim you see for sale in 2024 in made in Mexico >see it's technically north America, we didn't say usa
>>18306198Because I'm not a homosexual and rigid wranglers cost $30
>>18306348>He’s not buying dead stock cone mills denim exclusively
I ordered the Iron Heart N1
>>18306185>soi beard>reddit glasses>angry manlet stance>tokyo cuff with manchild sneakersthat jacket probably costs 1,4K and it looks like shit
>>18306297>he actually doesn’t know how many people he’s completely turned off and excluded from his business.That's correct. I said it before, but I was going to buy a $750 Ironheart N1 due to the current Ironheart N1 frenzy in this thread. I was about to order it from him but stopped when I saw your post, and bought it elsewhere.>>18306298It will count; his poodle's name is "Joe Greene" so they will record a write-in vote for that name.
Whats a good pair of jeans for political weenies?
>>18303171We are phuket bros
I don't understand N&F patches. Why can't they get a single one right?
>>18306296>having plastic touching your body
>>18306520How much are the seams actually touching your body you absolutely health freak sissy?
>>18306548I love your posts, anon. You're very recognizable.
Anyone got any store recs in London? I feel like there's gotta be a whole bunch of cool clothing stores that I'm missing but there's way too much shit here that its hard to filter info
>>18304098>>18304212>>18304225>>18304255>>18304451I got some really bad chalk lines on these when they were brand new. Barely visable now
>be me>search denim brands looking to buy a new pair of jeans>constantly feel like beating my cock to all the butts that I see>never end the search
How do you know the right spot to fold the collar of an N1? Do you just wing it depending on the weather conditions?
>>18306667Not denim-related. Fuck off.
Thoughts on Freenote Cloth?
>>18306678>General discussion of all things denim, workwear, heritage & Americana.
>>18306680Wtf all their back pockets look like shit
>>18306554Rivet and Hide
>>18306680Cut for skellies and skinnyfats. Overpriced.
>>18306553Thanks man, I do it for the fans.
How can so many Japanese brands (almost all of them) make this atrocious mistake of stitching the leather patch on all sides? The belt should always pass under the patch. This is an indispensable key element for me. Japanese brands may be cool and shit, but this flaw alone makes them an absolute no for me.
>>18306852>The belt should always pass under the patchThe fuck is this true?
My whole life I've just felt like jeans never felt right to move around in or sit with my office job, I'm always wearing chinos or regular trousers now for years, I do love the look of them, will buying an expensive one from like a Japanese brand change this? It's just a personal issue I've had
>>18306877>will buying an expensive one from like a Japanese brand change this?No, it will probably make your feeling worse. You just have to like the look of blue jeans and denim garments.
>>18306877If fit and feel is your issue, there's tons of options out there in the raw denim world compared to mainstream denim. You don't have to go made in Japan either. Since raw denim fabric is usually 100% cotton, getting the fit right is very important. You usually want a little room for movement but that depends on your body. Another factor is fabric weight, which in the raw denim world is usually explicitly stated. Maybe you prefer lighter weights. Naked and famous is a great brand to try out different cuts and learn what you like. For a work environment I'd recommend their Left Hand Twill, which they always have in stock. It softens up considerably over time. Try the true guy, easy guy, and weird guy cuts. There's tons of great japanese brands with interesting cuts and fabrics, but the markups are high so you may waste time and money if you don't nail your size. So I recommend getting into those later, or possibly trying them on at a local retailer at least. Once you know what fits and fabrics you like, you can base your purchases off size charts with little risk.
>>18306877>>18306915>If fit and feel is your issue, there's tons of options out there in the raw denim world compared to mainstream denimthis but its a double edged sword because there's so many options it can be overwhelming to figure out what brand's jeans are shaped best for you. and when you get it wrong it can be a pricy mistake. after a few pairs you know what works on you and doesn't but at first it can be frustrating. if you happen to live near a denim boutique or travel much try to try stuff on person. self edge has a bunch of locations and usually good selection: https://www.selfedge.com/index.php?route=selfedge/locationseven though they don't really stock my taste in jeans personally.
>>18306852few reasons depends on the jeans which one:-levi's used to stitch all the way around most jap brands take cues from vintage levi's. tradition more or less.-sewing all the way around makes it look and age way better if the jeans are unsanf and jap jeans tend to be unsanf.-pass-thru stitching doesn't work great on thick patches. the patch always falls off and good luck finding a place that can sew it back on. i like pass through patches so i've pondered this as well...>>18306667how he has it on the left looks best. >>18306555IME if they're above the knee you'll just fade over them. if you're below the knee on the front they probably won't ever get faded over or it'll take ages. if you're below the knee on the back it depends how thicc your calves are ive noticed some guys get a ton of fade there some get zero. >>18306260>>18306520just so you know virtually 100% of clothes made after like the 60's or 70's use poly thread and they don't have to disclose that on the tag by law. unless you specifically go out of your way to buy very old vintage clothes or japanese repro its very unlikely you've ever worn clothes sewn with cotton thread.yeah poly is way better there's a reason no one uses it. its invention and widespread use is why no one knows how to sew anymore. you used to constantly have to repair cotton thread clothes.>>18306198have owned the ones on the right. stretch denim blows out more easily, tears more easily, i don't like how it drapes and the waist never fits right in the long term once the elastine fatigues. if i want comfy pants i have other stuff for that.i'm not totally against stretch though. if you want something that feels like sweatpants or track pants with a bit more character that fades and looks cool over time, you wear a belt all the time and you're not particularly hard on your jeans stretch jeans can be a W. i'm glad some brands make them. they're absolutely what some guys want out of their jeans just not me.
To the guy that was asking for no fade jeans a while back. The N&F Forever Blues just dropped today
>>18306304i think its braindead retarded when people bring politics into their business especially when their business isn't big enough to alienate such a large pool of people like that. over half the country.there's a lot of times i've seen the inverse happen. odin mousepads for example. they had a great product at an insane price but the guy couldn't shut the fuck up about stuff i agree with like a retard. >>18306284i voted trump, null, trump last 3 elections. i never have and never will be a fan of his but you'll never get me to vote for a serial killer or a pejeet. >>18306233gap isnt actually that bad other than the stretch. last time i checked they use kaihara taiwan denim. not much character to it but its actually pretty durable for its weight in my experience with other jeans made of the same fabric from the same mill. >>18306219dig deeper there's brands better than those ones.>>18305981off the top of my head:europe: benzak, tender & co, dawson, indigoferana: viapiana, ciano farmer, railcar, left field honorable mention roy but he closed up shop. asia non japan: bryceland's, wingman, pinion, soso, route blue, adelaide, piger works, oldbluesome of these are mij or jap fabrics.my faves of those are piger works, ciano, viapiana, dawson, tender, pinion.the indonesian brands are actually very good they just don't get talked about on english message boards because you used to have to buy them on whatsapp and pay $50+ shipping which is a pain in the ass. >>18306120benzak and piger works have the craziest fades every time.>>18306170those are sick i've always wanted a pair of herringbone jeans or painters.
>>18306961These would be perfect if only the color was actually blue. They're grey.
>>18306680Very slim, but love their waxed jackets they are beautiful.
>>18305981>asia non japan: bryceland's, wingman, pinion, soso, route blue, adelaide, piger works, oldbluedon't sleep on indonesian brands if you're in asia rn and into meme jeans. there's a lot of brands over there with n&f level variety in meme fabrics but they actually come in good cuts.
>>18305981Nudie (Italy) and vintage Rifle (Italy)+ anything made with fibers from the Mulino Candiani (also Italy)Check out Acne Studios if you like Scandinavian shit
>>18306952>just so you know virtually 100% of clothes made after like the 60's or 70's use poly thread and they don't have to disclose that on the tag by lawAre you telling me all the top-quality jeans that say 100% cotton actually include polyester in their composition?
>>18306952>few reasons depends on the jeans which one:>-levi's used to stitch all the way around most jap brands take cues from vintage levi's. tradition more or less.>-sewing all the way around makes it look and age way better if the jeans are unsanf and jap jeans tend to be unsanf.>-pass-thru stitching doesn't work great on thick patches. the patch always falls off and good luck finding a place that can sew it back on.All good reason (except the third which is plain false, if the stitching is of good quality you can make do with two lines, no need of all the sides covered) but still, there's no point in having a cool leather patch if your belt will hide it. It's meant to be shown.
>>18306983Usually it will say something like "100% cotton exclusive of trimmings" which could be poly stitching or tags or whatever.
>nipponic autism
>>18306995>yo dawg we heard you like chainstitch runoff so we put some chainstitch runoff on your chainstitch runoff
>>18306721Rivet and Hide looks awesome and seems easy to get toThanks anon
>>18306852>The belt should always pass under the patch.do you actually do this? lol
>>18307018nta I do it if the waist is a bit too big as an extra anchor point for the belt
>>18306877What fit do you usually go for? Maybe try loosening up the fit, I'd also suggest buying a really cheap pair of non branded pants because they are so cheap and thin they'll be light, flowy and comfortable. Also you can buy soft AND durable jeans but you'll have to do your research and probably pay out for it. I've found what ruins a pair for me is not enough room in the crotch.
looooove my wrangler jacket, super soft inside. Also on an unrelated note>see a perfect pair of jeans >the back pocket design sucks ass
>no in person store like Iron Shop Provisions, Self Edge or Division Road in Minneapolis, MN
>>18307039Blackblue
This jacket looks great.
>>18306979>Nudie (Italy)I thought Nudie was Swedish? And their paper patch looks horrible.
>>18307095Buy it and tell us if it is. What pants and shoes are you thinking of paring it with?
>>18303171you always were a kidder donald
>>18307113I got the chore coat coming. I'm fading some Elephant 13 red cores right now but I have a lot to choose from.
I tried no-wash denim which turned out to be a disappointment. After one soak the legs shrunk about right but the waist barely changed at all so i couldnt wear them. So i gave them a very light mashine wash which made them look just like regular one-wash jeans, only problem was the waist still didn’t shrink enough. Its tricky because one site will tell you one think and another site will tell you another. In the end i was scared to size down too much But in retrospect i could have stayed with my regular size and just gone easy with the washes
>>18307126Also the color still bleeds after a soak
>>18306852let the clothes speak for themselves. personally if i find a patch gaudy ill just rip it off
>>18307112>The company's cotton is sourced from India, Turkey and Italy, and manufacturing primarily takes place in ItalyFrom Wikipedia>>18307235>i'm not just talking about jeans anon literally everything you buy uses poly thread unless you're specifically told otherwise when you buy it or its almost a century old.>everything in your closet contains it. i promise.You don't have to teach me how the world functions, you literally retarded avatar burger. I only asked if the self-declared 100% cotton jeans are actually made of only cotton. I KNOW polyester is everywhere, I'm not a fucking child you moron. Obnoxious attention-seeking mass-replier brainlet, stop thinking you're le denim professeur.
>>18307018Troll alert.
>>18307076holy shit, thank you so much dude. cant believe i didnt know about this place
I'm going full raw denim 2005 wigger mode, crisp Jordans on the feet, baggy ass evisus on the legs, bape hoody and you know your boy had to finish it off by gripping a Yankees fitted. All that to a Scott storch type beat.Thoughts?
>>18306445I bought mine a couple months ago during a Self Edge sale. It is seriously the most comfortable, warm, and well built winter jacket out there. Super timeless look. I'm not a fan of IH's cuts for their jeans (too slim), but they're shirt/jacket game is completely unmatched.
>>18307010Also check out Son of Stag and Clutch Cafe
>>18306284so basedlong live Christophe and MF
>>18306996pretty sure they do this on some WW2 model repros because the skilled labor was allocated to the war effort, so domestic clothing dropped in quality. Still think it's retarded
Oni 15oz concrete selvedge relaxed straight, first wear after one hot wash. Going to do one more hot wash and then have them hemmed.I need to figure out how to cuff them better, when I look at promo images the cuffs are always neat and look flat even when they're double cuffed. When I do two rolls I feel like they bulge out and look sloppy. I'm probably missing something obvious.
>>18307025Which is why seam rippers exist. I had one jeans with a retarded back pocket design, so I ripped the design off with a seam ripper. Took a while, but now it looks a lot better.
>>18307652You usually post good fits but these ones look off. Maybe the cuff is too big I'm not sure. Something is fucked here.
>>18307660It's the shirt and coat too many patterns. The jeans already have a very interesting texture no need for more.
>>18307652What's the secret hot wash technique?
>>18307660>Maybe the cuff is too big I'm not sureYou're right, like I said I need to do a proper double cuff.>>18307658>you can use a hard surface insead of your ironing board and a bit of steam if you want it pressed super goodThank you! I'm going to do that, double cuff so it's not as wide and then I'll press it down.
>>18307674So I think I figured out how to be lazy and not have jeans get fucked in the wash.My girlfriend has washable garment bags that she sticks bras and other delicates in so they don't get damaged in the wash. I crammed my jeans in one of the bags and washed them and dried them. The bag held them in place so they couldn't twist, they basically stayed pressed flat the whole wash. Worked great, no worries about marbling from the spin cycle since the jeans can't move or twist.
>>18307677Cuff thickness should range between 1-1.5”
Was Bruce /fa/?
Any techniques for flattening the selvedge thread out again after it folded in on itself?
got a package today
>>18307688Fuck yeah. He's the boss. He also sports a Rolex batman and he's still /fa/ af.
>>18306311I wouldn't want you as a customer. In fact, I tell people like you to take your business elsewhere quite often.
>>18307619I asked if the expensive self-declared 100% cotton jeans have poly. You tried to teach me that poly is everywhere. (Not even true, but the point is that it's not what I asked).
Do Sugar Cane jeans have cotton thread or poly?
>>18307652You're that fucking pathetic clown from the Trad/Ivy/Prep general? Lmfao, stop larping you absolute worthless homo.
>>18307710Seethe harder snowflake.
>>18307707Kamala lost
>>18307711You look like baboon shit in all photos lmfao
>>18307324gay
>>18307731Yes, I didn't know how fabric content labels work. You told me, and that was fine. After that, you went on trying to convince me that polyester is everywhere. You started some historic rant that nobody asked for. I know that polyester is almost everywhere, but my specific question was if expensive 100% cotton jeans also use polyester. This was a legit question. And you didn't answer it, because you instead decided that I was a kid who needed your stupid boomer lesson. I didn't.>>Not even true>it absolutely is true.It's not. I don't like in burgerland and some European luxury clothing is actually made of 100% natural fibers.If you said "poly is in the vast majority of clothes" I wouldn't be disproving you. But you're now actually claiming it's everywhere. It's not.Also, you're fucking retarded if you think tailors do not exist or if you think they won't repair your clothes.I take my ripped clothes to a local tailor at least 3-4 times a year, she fixes all of them.All of your "lol you need to know how to do basic mending if you want cotton clothes" argument is completely motherfucking retarded.I think we just live in two separate universes, stop even replying to me.
>>18307745>how do you know? you've never owned a cotton thread garment yet.Here we go with the assumptions, kek.>poorfags are on another world. any cope you can make to not spend money or put effort into your fits.Never mentioned money, you literal jackass.>you have a lot of good options for brands over there that make cotton thread non slop clothes.That's exactly what I said. "There are no 100% cotton clothes after the 1970s", famous last words.
>>18307745>>18307748You're such a fucking clown. Fourty years old and you're on this Korean ecchi imageboard acting like the experienced veteran of high-quality clothing. Fucking KEK.
>>18307731>cotton on most models, cotton-poly on 66'sInteresting. I've beat up their cotton thread jeans for years without issue. Just very light fraying in the crotch but never a blowout
>>18307759>its not an assumption, you didn't know how fabric content labels work and asked.I seriously can not understand if you're trolling or you're actually extremely, extremely stupid.The assumption for which I used the term "assumption" has nothing to do with the fabric content labels (which, yes, I'll repeat it again, I didn't know how they work). The assumption for which I used the term "assumption" was you assuming I do not own any 100% cotton clothes. You don't know me, so you also don't know if I inherited/bought vintage clothes or high quality clothes that are actually made of natural fibers only. Just as an example, I own two 100% cashmere sweaters and they have no poly thread. But you're here only to act like some clothing specialist to bust your ego, which is honestly extremely cringe boomer behavior and also the reason that makes you assume wrong things and embark for long pedantic lessons about something which I already knew. (Again: not how fabric content labels work, but the fact that polyester is extremely widespread. This is something even a child knows. And you treated me like your 5 years old son. Which I'm not, you dumb amerimutt).
>>18307704damn this thing is nice
>>18307771>>18307771>, I own two 100% cashmere sweaters and they have no poly thread. Lol this nigga doesn't know what fully fashioned means
>>18307793This is now a designated thread for based N1 enjoyers
>>18306852So, can anyone mention a few specific models of Japanese denim that use a pass-through patch?So far I've found Momotaro Copper Label G015-MZ and Samurai Jeans x Okayama Denim ODSJ001.
>>18307802Iron heart
Where can I actually see some high waisted (13 inches on a 30 waist) denim for men? Closest I see is tcb s40s.
>>18307845The Flat Head 3004
>>18307652Fabric looks amazing
I got my first pair of Iron Hearts. One thing I noticed was that their "21oz" is definitely not as thick as Unbranded Brand's "21oz." I also heard someone else say that Iton Heart 21oz is actually 17oz. Any truth to that? Or does Unbranded use higher than 21oz and just call it that? Hard to imagine either company would just lie. Could these Iron Heart be fake?
>>18307845Iron Heart 1955 restocking fhis month.
>>18307845Gain some weight man, 30 inch waist is so fucking tiny no one is going to make a 13 inch rise for pygmy people.
I would immediately buy a pair of Oni's 20 oz secret denim because the greencast is beautiful, but they completely ruined their recent production of this denim with this horrendous looking selvedge ID. Are they retarded? I really hope their next batch of 20 oz ends up just having a regular selvedge ID and not this stupid ass meme bullshit
>>18307933>he cares about the color of a small string of fabric inside the legmaybe just dont cuff your jeans like a faggot?
>>18307945But how will people tell i spent top dollar on them if i dont flash my SELVEDGE?
I'm looking at some deadstock denim because it's pretty cheap but 668g GSM so I'm wondering it's a bit too heavy for some 20s-40s trousers(fishtail back). Should I be looking at a different weight? I don't think it's pure indigo dye either. I really want this fabric to last. My thighs cause friction in most of my pants and they shred the fabric so if anyone else makes their own clothes is there something to look out in making the jeans? I'm thinking of saving some fabric for patches over the thigh seam eventually. I don't make pants for that reason because all fabric does that in the end.
>>18307923What will the price be?
Be aware that if you do this to your jeans you're a braindead idiot because such excesses look absolutely disgusting.
>>18308053How do you do that? Isn't this something that just happens naturally?
>>18303171What are my options as someone with 27” thighs, approx 36” waist, and 34” inseam? Looking for high rise, loose taper jeans. IH 888s look ideal but what else might there be?
>>18308074Denim nerds purposefully use all expedients to gain high-contrast fades. It's something I dislike a lot.
>>18308098>when you're in the mood post examples of fades you like instead for inspoI mainly prefer the look of new raw denim, when it's still dark and even. But if I had to pick an example of a fade I like, I'd say these Iron Hearts from reddit. Blue-ish, gentle, low-contrast and evenly spread fades.
>>18308053agreed, getting fades like this is kinda antithetical to the idea of wearing jeans anyway. people who want fades like this want to look like rugged macho men who do lots of physical work but the reality is that if you are actually doing a tone of physical work your jeans will become unbearably disgusting in maybe a month's time and unless you are a pig the jeans will need to be washed and you'll never end up getting those high contrast fades, you'll just end up with 'vintage' fades that actually look natural.
what's everyone's favorite type of casual stone washed jeans? i mainly wear raws but there is a time and a place for stone washed and they can look really great.
Work jean washing time. Soaking in dawn and hot water for a couple of hours before I put them in the wash.
>>183081533 sixteen makes stonewashed jeans with nice denim. It's surprisingly hard to find proper stonewashed jeans these days outside of rustlers at Walmart.
What even is the point of these? That they won't fade too much or what?
>>18307799What size did you get/what are your dimensions? Trying to de if I should get a L or XL
>>18308238Im 6’1”, 190 lb, 43” chest and I got an XL for a perfect fit. I typically wear size XXXL in their ultra heavy flannel
>>18308075You'll be able to fit into a pair of 888, but it will fit more like a slim cut as a fair warning. I have slightly larger thighs and am currently wearing my pair of 888, but they aren't my favorite cut despite being a really nice pair of jeans. If you want a very well balanced relaxed tapered cut, check out The Flat Head 3004. The thigh is actually wide enough for dudes with larger thighs, and the taper from the knee to the hem is not extremely intense and is instead rather perfectly balanced. If you want a very tight taper, check out the Samurai s520xx in their 21 oz (pic related). I had a pair of these and loved them despite not being the biggest fan of really intense tapers. Samurai's top blocks fit better than anything I've ever worn. Their crotch mobility is hands down the most flexible of any pair of selvedge, and the 21 oz denim is surprisingly easy to wear
>>18308183they're just starting from a lighter color
Just found out that Blue In Green has a shop in Denver. I’ve run into paralysis by analysis (fear of fucking up sizing) when looking at jeans online because of the these generals. It will be nice to be able to try on some of these jeans.
>>18308238I'm not that anon, but the XL fit me perfectly. I am 6'2" and usually wear garments with 18.5" shoulders.
First time wearing full denim and I'm not sure what I think about the level of fade not matching. The jacket came like that too, it's a one wash or whatever to make it look "cooler" instead of letting me fade it with wear naturally. These wranglies aren't budging on fades as you guys said when I was buying them.
Uhhhhh weren't Lee Archives supposed to be made in Japan?
>>18308261>>18308356Thanks XL it is
>>18308470Post some pics when it arrives. It’s ungodly comfortable
>>18303977Should I wash with a towel? Not that it worked out well for you anyway…
Opinion on the Levi's 555? I like the relaxed straight fit, non-stretch 100% cotton, zip fly.
>>18308595Get the selvage 505The 555 has a lower waist that doesn't look as good
>>18306995What the FUCK were they thinking?
>>18308595>>18308597Forgot the link, these are also zip fly also a bit looser then the 501https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/straight/505-regular-fit-selvedge-mens-jeans/p/005052976
>>18308608does he have no neck?
I can't remember what thread it was in (thought it was this one) but thank you to the anon who linked the Japanese Lee repro line. I've been trying to find slimmer jeans that still have a high rise but alot of the ones I found in the US were sold out, the Lee and Wrangler repros here are perfect and alot cheaper than jeans in the US.I'm narrowing down which pairs I want, probably going to grab one Lee and one of the Wrangler models from the 50s. I'll post pics when they come in.https://edwin-mall.jp/shop/goods/search.aspx?stockpresence=A&select_gender=10&search.x=true&select_item=2005&select_brand=1
>>18308608kek i saw this beforeredditors are the weirdest looking motherfuckers
>>18308608This is the deerhide shirt? Damn that looks incredible.
>>18308053Those look like they could stand up by themselves.
>>18308377i forgot but yeah edwin outsources a couple items in the collection to china/vietnam just ignore those ones and stick to mij.
Did you guys grab anything at the discontd sale today?
>>18308734Yea I got the poo shorts
>>18308608why is the neck so weird? It's almost like it wasn't cut right
>>18308741Cannot believe these actually sell
>>18308747Probably too big for him, he needs to have wider shoulders. That said, the cut is a little weird, I guess that's what you get with a leather shirt.
>>18303562I stumbled upon /n/ around 2007 while looking for bicycle parts lolno idea how I started posting here
Is any model in the LVC lineup worth spending money on? Or can you get just as good jeans cheaper from other japanese brands
>>18308598Fullcount plz...
>>18308053just curious about the anons who don't like high contrast: have you ever worn a pair of high contrast faded jeans or seen someone wearing a pair irl? i ask because i used to fade my jeans that way slash see a lot of asian guys wearing high contrast fades around town and i find find they look a lot less unnatural and obnoxious when they're actually in 3d worn on the body & in a state where the creases aren't all laid flat pulled apart. stuff like those stack fades and honeycombs are gonna be all accordion'd up and you'll see more of the highlights and a lot less of the shadows when they're actually worn.i like vintage fades and middle ground fades more these days don't get me wrong. you need too slim of a fit for my liking to accomplish good high contrast fades without being a seamonkey rickshaw driver or a landscaper in florida or some bullshit like that. >>18308804the fit in the neck and shoulder looks weird on the model too. they're being too ambitious for their tailoring abilities. i would only trust places with a real tailoring background like bryceland's or viapiana to get something like a leather shirt right if they ever made one. its not easy to make a thick rigid material like that sit right on the body and especially shoulder in a slim cut like that. >>18308598osha hates this man.>>18308581hand wash in the bathtub then pat dry to damp with towels if you want the fool proof way to never have problems.>>18308375the wash on the jacket looks nice and those go good together. it'd look great with some black double knees or even some black duck cloth overalls, as well. it'd go with some normal looking ones like round house/carhartt or some more out there kapital looking shit either or.
Is there any Japanese raw denim brand that fits just like the Levi’s 505? I really dig the high rise straight leg look now. I just copped a vintage pair and it suits the look that I’m going for right now.I’ve been sporting a pair of slim Momotaros for the past year and they are excellent, but I am no longer a fan of the ol’ millennial look.>low rise>slim taper
>>18308937tcb, denime, lvc and some others do 505 repros. not the most common thing but they exist.also post-care label era vintage orange tab 505s aren't very expensive. 70's vintage denim is surprisingly cheap and under valued i don't think that will be the case forever as denimheads grow a taste for it. i would go with tcb's or a vintage pair both are a great buy. tcb's are in stock not a preorder rn.
Iron Heart A2 deck jacket looks nice. It comes in two different fabrics/weaves though. Which is superior? "Whipcord" or "Serge"? And with superior I mostly just means durability.
>>18308912I see the double knee vision but why overals? You wont be able to tell I have overalls under.
>>18308804that cut look pretty bad. It's like they made it for bodybuilders with huge traps
Hey guys, how am I looking?
>>18309073Probably isn’t you and you’re just trolling. Obviously gay millennial core slim/tapered core bullshit. I’ll admittedly say that I am a millennial who used to rock this cut. Took the 40s repro pill a couple years ago and will never go back. Wide cut honestly just looks and feels amazing
>Probably isn’t you and you’re just trolling. Obviously gay millennial core slim/tapered core bullshit.>I’ll admittedly say that I am a millennial who used to rock this cut. Took the 40s repro pill a couple years ago and will never go back. Wide cut honestly just looks and feels amazing
>>18309073He's really presenting himself
>>18309083NTA, but it sounds like he really struck a chord with you
>>18309073>how am I looking?Ready to get fucked
n&f fade review of a really shredded up pair for anyone interested in how black jeans can fade:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWGpfIMn-qEthere's a lot of different dying methods for black jeans so they don't all fade the same:https://www.nudiejeans.com/blog/diving-into-darkness-nudie-jeans-guide-to-black-denimand black jeans usually fade super slow with some exceptions like sumi's, but its a good example of how they can turn out with a ton of wear.
>>18309100Has the concept of having fun on the internet completely missed you?
>>18309122>Has the concept of having fun on the internet completely missed you?
>>18308944I own way too many jackets to justify buying one of these, but it would undoubtedly be my next purchase. As much as I love my N1, the A2 exists as more of a balanced fall/winter jacket that isn't as sweltering hot as the N1. I would just go with the whipcord since its slightly heavier. It's also the fabric that was actually used when those jackets were originally produced in the 60s
>>18309142Completely unoriginal. Instead of laughing at some stupid redditor posting his flat ass for other guys to look at you've earned an enemy for life.I've memorised your posting style.
>>18309155You’re lucky we aren’t on Reddit right now. The other soillennials and I would immediately be banning you for homophobic wrongthink
>>18309174It would be worth it to be around my true peers.
For everyone on here looking for some black jeans, Self Edge just stocked some WWII era Buzz Ricksons
>>18309251>315Yeah ok.
>>18309255>90%+ of japan made denim cost $250-350Yeah, pretty wild am I right?
>>18309255that's like mid range for raw denim
>>18309251I've never checked out Self Edge before now. I thought it was funny that they sell Rick Owens raw jeans
>>18309251https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/buzz-ricksons-bottoms-accessories/products/br43042Slightly cheaper at Hinoya. I've used Bears and Hinoya, shipping is fast as fuck and I'm on the east coast. Japs are as efficient as always.
>>18309251a similar option is Fullcount's 0105BK
Speaking of black jeansSugar cane 1947's in black$160 from hinoya and without all the intentionally fucked up details of the WWII models.https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/sugar-cane-2023-fall-winter-collection-1/products/sc42460
The buzz rickson William Gibson models are absolute bangershttps://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/whats-new/products/br15414
>>18309413Why 850 bucks for a nylon bomberjacket? I can get it from my local milsurp for 50.
>>18309420a heavy weave lined one with vintage style differential knit long ribbing? one that's actually cut short in the torso not a hideous modern pattern? come on man its overpriced but no you can't buy anything like that for close to 50 your rothco shit looks like a joke.
>>18309255there's a lot of people on here who can afford 5-25 cents per wear. 150-300 bucks is like standard for a good pair of pants.
>>18309424It's original milsurp from the USA (I'm in Europe though) and it's literally identical to the picture you just posted. Identical.(Make sure to seethe like a monkey cause you were thinking to spend 850 bucks for that.)
>>18309427>150-300 bucks is like standard for a good pair of pantsIf you don't know where to look, sure.
>>18309435>The first thing that impressed me is the sheer weight of it, much more than my Alpha Industries MA-1 which feels terribly cheap now.>>18309436like what?name something i would actually wear that isn't thrifting.
>>18308053How are my Fades?
>>18309444Checked and more
>>18309446are those the cowboy fits? mind measuring the front and rear rise and giving the waist tag size on those for me its so annoying they have no size chart. leg opening would be nice too.
>>18309443>name something i would actually wear that isn't thriftingStock goods. But you don't live in Europe so you probably have no chance to get what I mean.
>>18309444>>18309446>How are my Fades?Revolting.
>>18309454I just washed when dirty. >>18309449Roundhouse jeans? I think they were the 182. The leg opening fit around my fat steel toed boots. I’m probably too lazy for the other measurements though. Sorry. I would say they are mid rise. Similar to my sugarcane 194X Okinawa
>>18309463>Sorry. I would say they are mid rise. Similar to my sugarcane 194X Okinawathanks g that works
>>18309452do you mean surplus? it's been garbage for decades in the united states and wearing anything semi modern or more than 1 or 2 items at a time makes you hand-hold-less virginal tier.
>>18309408I dont lile that the thread is black aswell
Going to Japan in a few days and am debating on buying jeans and/or a jean jacket from a nice brand. Any recs for someone who wears levis and has heard that japanese denim is top tier but otherwise completely ignorant on the finer details. I'd like to keep it under $200
>>18309645Sugarcane or something different that catches your eye. There’s lots of options there
>>18309427>5-25 cents per wearThis is an absolutely retarded metric.
>>18309865Your a retart
>>18309874kys
>>18309878No u
>>18309890I'll pass.
>>18309966There shouldn't be any need for me to explain why a retarded concept like that is retarded. If you're not intelligent enough on your own to understand why, then there's no point in having this discussion. You do you.
>>18309435Where did you get it? Who’s the manufacturer? If it’s anything like Mil-Tec/Sturm/Teesar, then you got played.
