when did these become gay female shoes and why
>>18303257when they turned into shitty, plastic cheap fashion shoes that fall apart and look like shit when they're old instead of better.
>>18303257Probably around 2014? Idk, but they never really looked great. There’s way cooler combat boots out there if you’re trying to go for the neo nazi look
I remember when these were associated with skinheads and neo nazis now they are used by fags and alt whores
>>18303257>WhenLesbians have been wearing Docs for decades. Bulk dykes try and dress as masculine as possible, and in their eyes what's more manly than combat boots? Docs are pretty universally available even in bumfuck and aren't prohibitively priced, they also used to be pretty well made. They aren't "gay female shoes", it's just that with the rise of social media and push towards leftist ideals the fashion choices of gays are pushed more into the public spotlight by forced exposure. Basically dykes have always worn them, you're just now noticing it.>WhyWomen have an innate drive and desire to possess everything men do and act like men so they can pretend they are equal.
>>18303257They aren't if you're dressed alty. Wesring these with a normal guy fit will definitely look goofy though
>>18303257What are alternatives to this boot? Like picrel not as fat as OPs pics boot.Can you tell me how these boots are calldd and maybe recommend precise models?I saw the Turdsday Explorer looks like this but turdsday…
>>18303296That style of boot is called a service boot. Every boot company makes one
>>18303299They don’t look like typical service boots but more like combat boot.If those are service boots can you recommend which look like this?When I think about service boots I have something like red wing iron ranger in my mind
>>18303306
>>18303257always has beenthey've always been a "fake" boot with its lack of shank and soft soles, women and soibois buy them for the perceived toughness but in reality they are soft shits
The day millennials became sentient
>>18303296>>18303306White's Smokejumpershttps://emptygarage.jp/SHOP/WHITESSTOCK337.html
>>18303317Looks great! Do you know another model with black matte leather like >>18303307 and >>18303306 ?
>>18303375no and matte leather always ends up looking like shit
>>18303375https://www.grantstoneshoes.com/products/diesel-boot-black-waxed-commander
>>18303257>when did these become gay female shoeswhen you started wearing them
>>18303307Never post Turdsdays on this board
>>18303265doesn't make them any less gay, Docs have sucked forever>>18303261this^ is whyjust buy surplus, jungle boots, paramemes, etc they're way cooler
>>18304237Although every now and then surplus becomes trendy and gay again until everyone forgets
>>18303257I love the skinny bitch wearing doc marten and also gym bitch too wearing doc marten
>>18303262>I remember when these were associated with skinheads and neo nazistheyre lamei rather be some mafia gangster wearing designer oxfords
>>18303257Always has been, stupid ass zoomer
>>18303262>skin heads and neo nazis You mean punks so contarian that they even had to distance themselves from their already counter-culture punk label.
>>18303257>>18303296>>18303306>>18303307Why thr fuck are they always paired with gay skinny jeans? Back in my fathers day he wore docks to work paired with his overalls. Why is it so rare to find boots not being paired with skinny jeans and/or gay turn ups.
>>18303260They always had high shine polyurethane coating the main problem with docs is that the tread wears out fast and there’s no shank in the sole the solution is to just get a pair with lug soles
>>18306133what the fuck are those legs jesus christ
>>18306135Chicken legs.
>>18306135
>>18303257quality is shit, they can have it.
>>18306133You don't need a shank with a heel like that. Shanks are for very high heeled boots.
>>18309076retard
>>18306133the shine is what makes jadons look so good
>>18303257Tryhard tough guy women
>>18308409Don't post my wife ever again.
women always try to co-opt everything that's masculine and coolI just ignore it
>>18311100It's more a matter of evolutions in culture stemming from the working/low class. Men were just more likely to be working the kind of jobs that required denim, boots, and affordable sturdy wear but despite that, Doc Martens has been worn by many women since the 50's and were even popular among women back then.There's more of a case with the rich always trying to co-opt everything that the poor create.
>>18311100Women can't pull it off thougIRL presence between man and woman is different.
>>18311229Running across adult alt girls that used to be basic good looking normie white girls in their teen years is weird as shit. i dont know why you want to fuck up your looks with an alt aesthetic.
>>18303257Are they still worth it? I'm planning on buying some for this winter.
>>18303261It was never combat boots. Originally it was health shoes for old ladies and punks therefore liked it because it was anti-fashion. But it was never combat boots.
>>18303257always were
>mrw I wear docs and people think I’m a tranny instead of an ardent racist skinhead
>>18303317those look kinda gay desu
>>18312830>think I’m a tranny instead of an ardent racist skinheadvery fine line
>>18312831Elevated levels of zest for sure
>>18311363no, get something else. though the jadon shine is hard to replicate
Alright, I need recsWhat are some sources for steel toed black combat/service/derby boots on the cheaper end? I've had Nick's recommended but honestly theyre just out of my price range for now; I'm looking for something practical that's gonna get heavy wear, just also not dogshit Chinese junk. I'm also pretty fucking poor.My boots see a lot of wear at concerts (ergo the steel toes) and some at work, so they get scuffed up and stepped on, but the quality of docs has gone so far downhill that they're just not worth it even as concert shoes, and they don't even make steel toes anymore. My price range is about $300 max, maybe a little more for the right pair. I've had army surplus recommended a lot, but am not familiar with good sites for that and have yet to see any steel toes on anything I've checked out. Of course Solovair was recommended to me by some of my punk friends, but people on here talk about them like they were the black plague.I guess I'm also looking for sources for good non-steel toe army surplus boots. I'm hesitant to just go with top Google results.
>>18315990French army rangers. Get the real ones from argueyrolles or marbot. Can be had for cheap and are built like tanks. No steel toe, though.
>>18315990Thorogoods or Belleville boots might have something. I never liked black service boots, but I had green ones in the Air Force and used thorogood steel toe boots as an engineer.
>>18303307these look cool what's wrong with them? that other guy doesn't seem to like the brand.
>>18316584>what's wrong with them?Thursday is known for quality control issues. An unacceptable number of their boots fall apart in a few wears.
>>18303296Death to all ESLs.
>>18303262This is why punks wear Docs now. Its the same reason why blacks say "nigger." They're reclaming it from their enemy.
>>18316714Punks wore docs before neo-nazisFun fact, skinheads also were originally not nazis and in fact a very inclusive working class scene with close ties to rudeboy and mod cultureNeo-nazis/nazipunks were the ones who coopted docs and skinhead culture in general, not invented it
>>18317272True. Skinheads descend from hard mods which stemmed from mods. Originally they were called suedeheads and a bunch of other names until "skinhead" stuck in 1969 (the spirit of '69 and all that shit).