Hygiene/skincare General #15 Christmas/New Years editionPrevious >>18313188Post your routine, holy grails and strategies to shave balls. Share experience about skincare products and your skin issuesFAQ:Basic routine, skincare guide, and products tips: http://pastebin.com/5QEQgMUpHow to pop pimples, remove blackheads and whiteheads: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfyWhy you shouldn't use ordinary soap on your face: http://pastebin.com/Ujf2x9M6How to improve your skin tone through diet: http://pastebin.com/epLqSbEQStudies on how diary and sugars create acne: http://pastebin.com/0H5gag01Dark circles around the eyes: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvrSoap, pH, irritants and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NEPost-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (PIH): http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMfWiki:Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_BasicsAcne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_TreatmentSkinacea Links:Retinoids:http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.htmlSunscreen:http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.htmlRidding dark eye circles:http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html
>>18341751What's the best sketchy online pharmacy to get tretinoin from without a prescription these days?
>>18341764kek this nigga doesnt have a tretinoin prescription
Can someone recommend a body scrub? I have lots of dead skin to the point that if i scratch myself white marks appear on my skin
alright i might just be a schizo but i need you to hear me outhydration important for skin soaking cucumber in water provides electrolytesrectum absorbs excess water and electrolytescucumber water enemawhy not just drink it? does bypassing the digestive track provide any benefit? call me gay if you need to but am i crazy?
>>18341829this is why i still come here
excluding supplements that I need to stay sane on night shift like Vitamin D3. Shower at night so my sheets are clean which I was with powder detergent and baking soda just like the rest of my clothes to get rid of stains.Before I shower hydrate face with warm water, apply shaving cream from bar or cream form then rinse off to get the oil layer off first. Apply again and shave WTG, ATG, XTG, and stretch skin out in trouble spots. This is done with a double edge razor the Drakkat + gives me almost a BBS but skill issue is present. No nicks but rarely weepers again either a skill issue or blade issue but zero irritation.Then apply witch hazel with alcohol on a cotton ball or round to get rid of the soap residue. Let dry for a minute and apply aftershave in either a balm or liquid form. Then let rest for a minute before taking a shower to use my bar soap to clean it off with my Salux scrubber that gets thrown in the wash weekly. Then I use the scrubber for the rest of my body. Best skin of my life my face has ever seen. Truly understanding on which spectrum of oil your face/body resides on is the key to better skin. However most of my acne has been on my back most of my life so I am biased in my view point.
Skin care routine >Cold showers >sometimes wash face with bar of dove soap (no I don't use cleanser, no I've never had acne or a pimple in my entire life, no it doesn't dry the shit out of my skin) >Shave 3 times a week >Sometimes smear retinol on my face at night>Dont use moisturizer, don't need it>Sometimes wear mineral sunscreen
>>18342841>Sometimes smear retinol on my face at nightIf you're going to use retinol you have to be consistent. Either work up to nightly or don't use it at all, I'm pretty sure only using it a few times a week is purely wasting money.>cold showersI really gotta starting doing those again, it's remarkable how much better they are for your skin.Other than these comments, you know your skin better than I do. If it works, good stuff. Do try to think proactively though; maybe you don't need moisturizer now but maybe it will slowing aging down, etc.
>gets you compliment from guys and girls
>>18342527I think on average this is probably true because women have hormonal fluctuations and men generally don't, but when men do have skin issues they seem to be more severe. Also almost every guy I know has dandruff at least during part of the year, body acne and ingrown hairs seem to be way more common too
>>18343069true, I've been struggling with acne since 15 which forces me to use shit ton of cosmetics and plan my skin care routine like Napoleon planning his next offensive, meanwhile my buddy does the absolute bare minimum and has silky smooth skin
>>18343205I know that feel
>>18341858This is body horror.
>>18341751is shaving foam bad for the skin?
How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?I could do it in 5 minutes if I didn't give a shit about letting things absorb but I use vitamin C in the morning and give it 20 minutes to absorb. Then if I wear moisturizer under my sunscreen, that's another ten minutes of waiting. It's at the point where I just use my sunscreen as my moisturizer. There's got to be a better way.
>>18341751Guiding principles:stay hydrated, avoid cigarettes, caffeine and alcohol, get high quality sleep, eat well, exercise, change bedsheets weekly, always use sun protectionRoutine:- Warm (not hot) showers, daily in the morning, after workout- Wash face using hands with CeraVe for normal skin, daily in the morning- Wipe down face with warm washcloth in the evening- Clinique Men moisturizer with SPF21 in the morning- CeraVe PM Ultra Lightweight lotion in the evening- Nivea Men on the body in the morning- Shave every other day, using a tallow-based shave soap, one pass with the grain only (it's not perfectly smooth, but it looks fine. No one's given me a credit card test since I left the military anyway.)- Alcohol-free witch hazel aftershaveI find a healthy lifestyle is more important for good skin than a routine that includes a million different treatments. Genetics also plays a part. My parents are in their late 60s and look like they're in their late 40s (only my father's snow white hair gives them away.)>>18344959>How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?All told, from the second I turn on the shower to the minute I'm out the door for work, it takes me 20 minutes
>>18344977>I find a healthy lifestyle is more important for good skin than a routine that includes a million different treatments.100%. Diet has a huge impact. Skincare is for treating specific issues, protecting against environmental factors, enhancing the skin, and protecting against aging.My routine:AM:Rinse faceVitamin CMoisturizerSunscreenPM:CleanserRetinolMoisturizerWhen I shave I just use shave gel, go with the grain, and apply my moisturizer right after. I never much saw the point of aftershave.
>>18344992>apply my moisturizer right afterRight after rinsing off the shave gel, of course.
>>18344992>I never much saw the point of aftershave.It's an astringent to close the pores and prevent moisture loss. The alcohol can also act as a disinfectant to prevent cuts from getting irritated.However, alcohol dries the skin out, so it's best to use an alcohol free astringent like witch hazel. If you actually do get a cut anywhere, you can use a styptic pencil instead.
>>18341858This scares me more that melanoma
>>18345005I might be totally missing the point but why not just splash some cold water on your face to close the pores?
>hg >no deodorant recs yeah op is a jeet
>there are treatments that can improve sun damage and hyperpigmentation>all of them makes you more prone to sun damage then beforewhat did they mean by this?
Redpill me on cicaplast
>>18346554Make some recs then.For me it's just Old Spice. Not many ingredients though I hate that with deodorant you basically have to submit to using fragrance.I don't fuck with anti-perspirant. Don't need it because I'm not fat.
>Go to beach for the first time this year >Back acne looks just as faded (if not more) than when I apply foams and creams vigorously for a monthI think the best answer to cutting back acne is>Cut dairy>Embrace the dudesurfer lifestyle, or at least take a dip in the salty water every dayToo bad the beach is far. Are there any salt water tier products that have the same effects as catching waves? It genuinely feels like this is the way to go
Anyone able to get tazarotene gel or cream 0.05%/0.1% in SEA? Vietnam used to have 0.1% gel. But they removed the "0.1%" label and now supposedly only have 0.01% Tazarotene in picrel. I rather not import from India. I don't think it will pass the custom anyways. Thinking to visit a pharmacy/derm in neighboring SEA or Asian country and get the tazarotene.
>>18347488Dove makes some aluminum free deodorants that have pretty light scents.
>>18347217I used one of the Cicaplast almost a decade ago, when it was really hyped. It was very thick and didn't do much iirc. Pharmacy ceramide cream like Alfason/Locobase or Ceradan did much more in my experience.
>>18341798Sounds like a medical problem.
>>18344959>I could do it in 5 minutes if I didn't give a shit about letting things absorb but I use vitamin C in the morning and give it 20 minutes to absorb.You don't need to do this at all.1-2 minutes is plenty of time for each layer to absorb before you apply the next one. You don't need to wait until your skin is completely dry, just give it long enough that the next layer won't wipe off the previous one when you put it on.
>>18347633Just import from India. It will pass customs as long as you don't order 20+ tubes at a time. Nobody working in customs cares about prescription skin cream
keep getting adult acne on my chinclears up and then a new one appears after a few days later
>>18347941Be conscious that you're not touching your chin too much
>>18341751How do I identify what's fucking up my skin?I was in an extended vacation abroad (Asia) and I noticed the occasional acne I get dissapeared. I thought it may be all the fancy skin products I bought in Asia but now after a while at home it came back. Obviously something in my environment or lack thereof is doing this but I can't find out what.Anyone experienced something like this?
>>18348922Humidity and temperatureReduced stress on vacationHigher cortisol levels are usually correlated with breakouts, although that may actually be because stressful lifestyles, like sitting at your desk indoors all day studying and getting little sleep, are greasy
>>18347217The one in your pic saves my hands and face from the effects of the harsh, bitter winter cold. I only use it when my face/hands are as scaley as a lizard, but otherwise you can find better for daily use.
>>18347217stuff's magic for damaged skin.>razor burn/cuts - fixed>tret burn - fixed>chapped - fixed>over exfoliated - fixedit's an occlusive, so use it the same way as slugging. no active under where you apply it. i only clean, HA serum, moisturizer, and then a layer of cicaplast on top before bed. most minor things heal in a single night. speeds up healing for more serious damage.
What do you put on your lips for spf protection?
>>18349341Burt's Bees
>>18341764everyone always touts alldaychemist, but i wouldn't recommend something like that because it's unregulated and there's good money to be made in counterfeits. not that they are just that i wouldn't trust it.you should try going through amazon clinic / pharmacy if you're in the US. it's pretty cheap and quick. it was about $30 for the visit for the prescription and the tret is about $20 a tube without insurance. even cheaper with insurance. >>18341798St. Ives Fresh Skin Scrub to answer your question.you shouldn't really be using physical exfoliants like scrubs though. it sound's like you have dry skin. have you tried moisturizer? what moisturizer do you use? if you have you could try something with Salicylic Acid to exfoliate.CeraVe Moisturizing Cream with Salicylic AcidCeraVe Body Wash with Salicylic AcidCeraVe SA Cleanser Bar >>18342841>Sometimes smear retinol on my face at nightminimum needed is every other night otherwise you're wasting your time and irritating your skin for no reason. retinol is already on the weaker end to begin with.>Sometimes wear mineral sunscreenyou should wear a broad spectrum SPF30 or higher every day. it's cumulative over a long period of time that accelerates aging and increases risk of cancer.sounds like you got lucky in the skin department, don't let that make you think you're the exception to UV damage.>>18344953it can be. you should check the ingredients. incidecoder.com is a good tool for this.Vanicream Shave Cream is a fairly gentle option if you're unsure what ingredients aggravate your skin.>>18344959i only use a moisturizing spf, but if i used vit c i would apply, get dressed, and then throw on the moisturizer spf. you don't need to wait that long for it to dry.>>18344977>>18344992sounds pleasant anons
>>18347602this effect is well known but not good for long term and is inconsistent even in the short term.>https://int.eucerin.com/skin-concerns/sun-protection/acne-and-the-sundon't give up looking for a solution. what have you tried so far?>>18347941you should give your routine if you want real help. could be something you're doing / not doing. women can get hormonal acne along their jawline, but if not that it could be practically anything.>>18348922>>18348976agree with response, but would add to it if you don't think its environmental or stress.the best way to find if a particular ingredient or food is causing outbreak is to simplify your routine as much as possible and be consistent until you can find something that works. once you find a stable base you can start slowly adding stuff back until you break out again. use incidecoder.com to compare skin care ingredients.make your diet as simple as possible too. things like dairy, sugar, and high processed food can cause acne. you could also have an allergy that causes acne. try to stick to whole foods (mostly veggies by volume, fruit, white meat, fish, nuts). only drink water.you can also talk to your derm or gp about an allergy test.if you were more active during vacation, you may want to try exercise. even walking could help. exercise helps improve blood flow to the skin that help provide nourishment and remove toxins and dead cells.also, the canned response - clean your pillowcase every few days.>>18342527>>18342721>>18346554no one wants you here.
How the fuck do I get a shave without irritation or shadow? I can feel the blade doing little micro-tears in my skin as i shave. This was with a Harry's razor i got as a gift. I usually do electric but still get irritation. Sorry for gross pic. >inb4 pressurei am using butterfly-tier pressure>different style of razorHave tried straight and safety with the same results. >growth patternAgainst or with the grain it does not matter - it's always like this. >git gudI have been shaving for probably 15 years and feel like I've tried everything.
>>18350125have you ever had a professional shave at a decent barber shop? if you can find one that gives you a good shave you could ask them.there's a good chance you'll get some razor burn around the adam's apple or other uneven surfaces. these cuts, "burns", need to be disinfected and sealed to prevent bacteria from getting in. most of what i can see in the picture is inflammation.you'll need to experiment around, results are different for everyone, but the staples are: alum block, witch hazel, and alcohol aftershave for the disinfectant.none of those worked for me. i use a 10% benzoyl peroxide face wash.my routine:- shave with electric razor. not the closest shave but least irritating for me. this will differ largely by person.- hop in shower and wash face with 10% benzoyl peroxide face wash. when i put the face wash on i leave it for 3-4 minutes to give it time to kill germs.- out of the shower, right after drying off, i use a moisturizer.the moisturizer not only hydrates the skin, it also creates a protective layer to prevent contaminates from getting in and has calming ingredients.>CeraVe Acne Foaming Cream Cleanser 10%>CeraVe Ultra-Light Moisturizing Face Lotion with SPF 30>Torriden DIVE-IN Hyaluronic Acid Soothing Cream
can acne purging from tretinoin tropical 0.05, cause permanent acne scarring? My nodular acne has suddenly flared up after I'd started using this 5 weeks ago and was wondering if the damage is going to be permanent making the whole idea of using tret useless in the first place.
What is this?I got it for free. I don't know how/when to use it and if it helps your skin.
>>18350154the purge shouldn't last too long and you'll have less acne over the long term so worth it. you should give it a full 12 weeks to start seeing the results before stopping.also be sure during this time you only clean, moisturize, and spf. other actives should be on hold until your skin acclimates to the tretinoin.>>18350159>https://biomee.com/>https://web.archive.org/web/20240807183227/https://biomee.com/>https://www.instagram.com/biomeedk/no clue. looks like a failed startup from denmark looking for funding or something.their barrier cream appears to be something like Illiyoon Ceramide Ato Concentrate Cream, so i would use it like a heavy moisturizer at night.
>>18350125
>>18350172can I use clindamyacin and benzoyl peroxide to cope with acne in this peroid?
>>18350176yes, it's often prescribe together with tretinoin. you want to use them at different times though. benzoyl peroxide can break down the tretinoin and make it less effective. (there's some conflicting evidence on this) tretinoin should be used at night due to sun exposure issues.that means the benzoyl peroxide / clindamycin should be used in the morning on clean, dry skin before moisturizer and sunscreen.you want to be careful with what you wear; the benzoyl peroxide will bleach fabrics. hopefully after your skin adjust to the tret you won't need to use bp. also, bacterial resistance will make clindamycin ineffective relatively quickly. it's not a long term solution.bp is one of the goats at clearing acne, but it's pretty harsh. leave on bp especially - dehydrates skin and ruins clothes, sheet, and towels.epiduo is another option. it's an adapalene/benzoyl peroxide 2-in-1. it may be a better fit if tret doesn't work out. unlike tret, adapalene is stable with bp. for me, i eventually needed to go on isotretinoin.hope this helps :) the purge is miserable. it's worth trying though even if it feels like forever now.
>>18350149Thank you for the advice! Will certainly follow the directions for the products you listed. Seeing good things online about Torriden. Will get the CeraVe and continue with my ARC5. Also, alum, witch hazel, and aftershave haven't worked for me, either. Glad you found what works for you, and thanks for the tips.
>>18348922Wow yeah, I experienced the same thing vacationing in Japan recently, dandruff + acne started clearing up. Until then I'd assumed I was stuck with bad skin forever after adolescent experiments with different hygiene methods failed to have an effect. Thus being here and elsewhere, trying to learn why.
>>18350208thx.will adding this >>18347633help me treat hyperpigmentation scars? How do I so? Also, what are ur thoughts on microdosing accutance, say 10mg, thrice a week?
Anything to handle stretched skin on the face? I think I accidentally stretched cheek skin over the years and now I have a chud line there.At beginning I thought it was caused by lacking tooth there, so I had tooth bone augmentation, didn't work.
>>18350516Yes. Plastic surgery.
>>18350217Leaving a filthy third-world country for Japan makes you healthier. Who'da thunk it?
>>18350558So anti-wrinkle creams won't work?Fuck. I don't believe I fucked myself over with such trivial thing
>>18350310Ask a derm. If you're microdosing accutane, a derm is necessary anyways.
>>18350516>>18350562Post a picture. Let's see wtf a "chud line" is. Don't expect too much from creams. Even prescription ones.
>>18350581>chud linenasofabial foldMine is deeper on one side. I can clearly feel the saggier skin on that side and behind the cheek.
about to try the new cerave shampoo and conditioner let's see if it fucks my hair up
>>18350960this being my current routine
I've been using tret (started with 0.05) for a couple weeks, slowly increasing the frequency. No nasty side effects so far. I've just started applying it every other night, and now I'm moving on from the moisturizer sandwich technique to applying it directly on my skin. I use a face wash beforehand, now that I'm not applying tret between moisturizer layers, should I still wait around 20 minutes after rinsing and drying my face of the face cleanser before putting on the tret like how I did when I used a moisturizer buffer or can I just put it on immediately after I dry my face with a towel after washing it?Also what/when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage of tret?
*does nothing in your path*
>>18351106>for a couple weeksImho, if you didn't get any adverse effects from sandwich method, just continue for now at least for 6 months to a year. And see if there's noticeable improvement. Take pictures for your own reference. The instruction usually says to wash your face and let it dry from 20-30 mins. Use tissue to make sure. Then apply the tretinoin. If you want to stop sandwich method, try this method first. Directly applying tret after washing may or may not increase irritation. But we should not make such a huge gamble with our skin. Personally the recommended 20 mins wait make my skin too dry and uncomfortable. I prefer buffering. But I understand there's a cost associated with this approach. And most people want quicker results. >Also what/when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage of tret?If it doesn't solve your issue or show any result. Like acne, fine lines, etc. after 6-12 months.
Can anyone recommend products for back hyperpigmentation. I'm pretty smooth looking all around except for my goddamn back and it's making me very insecure holy shit.I've been using tretinoin on it and I have not seen any noticeable results thus far.
>>18351312Just to add as well, I've treated the acne with Panoxyl.
>>18351312>>18351314Could you show a picture? It will probably fade on its own in a year or so.
>>18351328>It will probably fade on its own in a year or so.Not good enough, I want it gone in the next few months. I'll take a pic when I can.
>>18341751Do natural sugars, such as in honey or dates, cause acne as well?Also what’s the difference between a moisturizer containing SPF vs using a separate moisturizer and sunscreen?
>>18350125Sharper razor blades, shave with the grain for the first pass. I get massive razor burn if i shave straight down on my neck the first pass but if i follow the grain and shave outwards from the center it i get none. Rub your face and feel which way the grin goes in each spot. Draw a diagram on a piece of paper if it will help you remember while shaving.I think the bic twin blade disposables are sharper then average.
50% sure that I've got a cystic pimple coming in, just noticed it now and it wasn't there in the morning. I haven't had one since June...What can I do about this fucker? I'm already on tazarotene.
a lot propaganda for some brands but I don't see Eucerin comments, they should hire shitposters, sorry ... marketers ? or maybe they don't needed.
>>18352182>EucerinGarbage German brand. If anything they are doing more stealth marketing lately. On /r/tretinoin for example. It doesn't help that most other brands don't want to do a basic urea cream.
>>18352182>>18352184Dove have many allergic components that are prohibited in Europe ( google 24 or 26 alllergic) .Cetaphil is basically equal to a regular cheap soap (google and compare components) except for a couple of componentes (uses tallow which is normal animal fat). Cerave is the one I I don't have many complainsEucerin by the only one hate comment recieved must be good or at least ok; pity there are not many comments good or bad.
I'm a newfag to skincare. Is this good to start it?
>>18352324start with*
>>18352324>>18352325Meh. What's your end goal? I honestly think it's better to see a derm and get prescription tretinoin, etc.
tret bros and sis, what gives?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_FAwj7rmfA
>>18352404I will not watch the video because I'm very racist. Anyways not everyone benefits from tretinion. Don't be poor. See a derm regularly for control.
is vitamin e oil a meme or legit? not really looking to use it for my face, mostly my nails/cuticles
>>18351794Just let it be. You're on taz. Don't risk another actives. See a derm if you want.
>>18352324yeah but don't expect miraclesit's like saying im gonna start brushing my teeth, they aren't going to magically get whiter but they certainly won't get worse
>>18350960so far they seem fine, they don't really feel amazing in the shower but after putting on the conditioner my hair feels all right not the worst products i've used but not my favorites either
>>18350960>>18352640Not sure why you are trying random shampoos and conditioners like this. Just use Kerastase or Redken. Paul Mitchell for clarifying shampoos.Free & Clear/Vanicream for sensitive skin. Anti-fungal shampoos/ointment/tablet for dandruff. I personally find Zinc Pyrithione very effective, but they banned it in the western world.
>>18352464I have no idea what you're talking about. What are the purported benefits?
>>18347770>Nobody working in customs cares about prescription skin creamHoly shit, you don't live in my country. Don't be a smart ass just because your country has no working law and order.
>>18352869for fun also im not paying $20 for shampoo fuck off
do anons know any good indoor sunscreens? i sit in a completely dark room most of the day but sometimes i am near a window and also need to block the light from my computer (i turn the blues way down and use a very strong blue light filter on everything)
>>18353628the exposure you're getting does not make that big of a difference, you could probably just wear any light watery sunscreen from korea and be fine
>>18353628Round Lab 150 Dokdo Sunscreen.Invisible at moment of application. Does not stand up to rubbing/sweat but it's absolutely perfect for indoor work. My daily driver except during summer when I sweat.
>try to get into doing skincare>just putting on sunscreen makes my face feel gross and irritated all day, especially around my eyes>supposedly I’m supposed to put moisturizer AND sunscreen onWhat do
>>18353768What sunscreen have you been using?
>>18353776umbrella
>>18353811Seems like a brand I'm unfamiliar with. For future sunscreens I'd screen their ingredient list using something like the ingredient checker on Paula's Choice site for known irritants:https://www.paulaschoice.com/beautypedia-ingredient-checkerPaula's has their own sunscreens on their site, but they can be a bit pricey.There are also combo moisturizers with spf, but from the articles I've read it looks like they're less effective UV protection than just sunscreens, and reapplying them throughout the day (as you'll meed to for sun protection) will just make your face feel greasier
>>18353880A good first-line website is incidecoder. Paula's Choice is better for individual ingredients but incidecoder will have a page on the product categorizing each ingredient by function and whether the owner of the site thinks it's bad. Helps eliminate ingredients that are virtually certain to not be the problem.whatisinmyjar is similar but I'm not sure how well-maintained it is.https://incidecoder.com/brands/umbrellaNot sure which of their sunscreens he's using but it should be on this list.
>>18354115 (Me)>>18353811Also what's your use case? Do you sweat much during the day? Do you work outside?If you spend most of your time indoors you could look into an ultra-light sunscreen like Round Lab Dokdo. It will roll right off if you break a sweat but it's light, non-greasy, and shine-free.If you need a tougher sunscreen many of them like Purito Soft Touch Daily have decent-ish water resistance and can act as a standalone moisturizer.Ultimately you will have to experiment with a few, for me I would scroll YesStyle and StyleVana and read reviews on products that looked promising before trying them.
why does it feel like it's impossible to change my skinsome big problems i have are dehydration (i look way older than i should at 19), post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation and uneven skin tone (i was on roaccutane for 10 months) and dry lips that never seem to look good in texture. like i use lip balm but they just always look odd.i've been struggling with my skin and looks for years and i feel like my diet here is the problem + lack of exercise. i don't feel like i have true sun damage since i am inside a lot (kinda too much on the computer) so i also have eyebags under my eyesmy problem is probably sugar and dairy and lack of fruits. i eat a decent amount of veggies and meat so that isn't as much of a problem.i'm currently using a gentle cerave cleanser + moisturizer for dry to normal skin and it never feels like it can fix the dehydration, my skin also visibly has like a "peel-off" look but it never truly peels off, it's just dry, dead skin probablywhenever i shower, after i shower, i can scratch my legs and arms to the point where i get small white-grayish (?) stuff that peels off which i assume is dead skin cellsi'm just incredibly confused as to what to do. maybe i shower wrong? i use a soap bar and don't moisturize after showering or exfoliate. i'm assuming it might be stripping my oils too much and it's concerning bcs i've been showering this way for years. is it possible to totally revamp your skin throughout your 20s and fix damage? like it would immensely improve my looks. roaccutane got rid of a lot of acne that i had to the point where it isn't present anymore but my skin still sucks. derma is useless and ignores my dehydrated skin and just says "oh bro, apply moisturizer man" and i do but...doesn't work to fix the problem...picrel is my leg, for an example of what i'm dealing with all over my body. i scratched it a bit with my nails to show the problem.
>>18353880>>18354118umbrella
>>18354257I know there are skin problems but don't you think maybe stress can cause some of the problem and maybe an antibiotic you took before, for example doxyxicline works at skin level and literally kill the usual microorganisms the skin have
>>18354257i hate derms, I had that reaction with the first syndet they gave me, everything just went to the point "just try till find the one works for you". derms are just like everything in life, in a classroom of 50 , 5 are goood 10 are a disaster and the rest is the middle "who kniws" , try another derm.oh in case you are curious Im using a glycerine cheap soap which is not good but is not too bad.
>>18354257Can't offer too much advice but iktf man. My skin is very dry just about everywhere, doctors don't really offer much more advice beyond "drink more water bro", "use lotion", or "some people are just like that".>maybe i shower wrong? i use a soap bar and don't moisturize after showering or exfoliate. i'm assuming it might be stripping my oils too much and it's concerning bcs i've been showering this way for years.if you have hard water (white spots on everything that gets wet, mineral buildup around your water fixtures) that might be part of the problem, i think it is for me.
>>18354478You've been using an actual, physical umbrella?If you walk on light-colored surfaces you're still getting UV, plus you need to carry the umbrella around. Not a terrible system but it's mogged by sunscreen.
>>18350310>will adding this >>18347633 help metazarotene is another retinoid and you shouldn't use it while also using tretinoin. both can help with hyperpigmentation. i'd run the full 12 weeks with tretinoin and if you're still interested in trying something else, switch to the tazarotene. moving from tret to taz won't be as bad as your initial entrance into tret since you already purged.you should take a look at this video. not exhaustive, but a good rundown of retinoids.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbeopWc_xLEhttps://labmuffin.com/ultimate-guide-to-drug-retinoids/you should also talk to a derm about hyperpigmentation. there are a few things that can help depending on type of hyperpigmentation, severity, skin tone, skin type, finances, etc.one of the go-to's is hydroquinone, but it's use has an on/off cycle and needs to be monitored by a dermatologist. unchecked, it can cause some serious damage. also you'd want to use that after fixing your acne and may not be necessary once you've been on a retinoid for a while.see here for more: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9165630/#t1-dic-2021-11-2>thoughts on microdosing accutancedefinitely need to talk to a derm about this. i'd say it's an absolute last option. while on accutane you need to take monthly blood test to check liver function and cholesterol. you also can't drink alcohol and you can't take certain medications, even tylenol, because it will damage your liver.for me, my first month of accutane was 20mg. my cholesterol spiked over double. i had to be very careful with my diet, take fish oil, and exercise the entire time i was on it. i couldn't maintain that over the long term and i like to have a drink every now and then.bunch of other side effects and issues that can come up that you should look into. can't get pregnant because of birth defects, etc.that being said some people do it because it's the only thing that works for them.
>>18350960>>18352640thanks for the review, i may check it out. the vanicream shampoo has been a godsend though, not sure if anything can top it. it's just a shampoo. that's it. just about everything else i've tried breaks me out in some degree.https://incidecoder.com/compare-products/vanicream-free-clear-shampoo/cerave-gentle-hydrating-shampoo>>18351106>should I still wait around 20 minutes your skin should be completely dry. i usually wait 10 mins after drying, apply pea sized amount, wait 10 mins, then apply moisturizer.>when's a good sign that I should ask my doctor for a stronger dosage if for acne, wait 12 weeks after you start using directly on the skin daily. if for anti-aging, wait 6 months and bumping up to 0.1% probably won't make a difference. you should look into different retinoid.>>18352182i default rec cerave because it's one of the cheapest while still being effective and non-irritating. it's a safe choice. not always the best for you specifically, but a good base to start from. eucerin seems to be more popular with the eczema/psoriasis/very dry skin crowd. someone with oily skin probably would like it as much. similar with la roche posay moisturizer. leans more toward dryer skin types.>>18352324if you don't have a skin condition and you're under 25, this plus spf is all you need. i want to stress spf. it's the most important thing that you can do. spf 30 or higher, UVA + UVB protection.this one's pretty good: https://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30if you do that every day, you'll be miles ahead of your peers in +5 years.around 25-30, you should look into getting a retinoid like tretinoin.
I wish someone told me about hydrating toner 10 years ago. That's been the missing ingredient all this time.
>>18353768i didn't wear sunscreen all the way up through my 20s because of this. i didn't know it was just because my parents bought cheap, greasy trash from walmart. learned much later that there are plenty of affordable options that actually make my skin feel and look better. big boon for me. shop around, try out different brands. when you find one you like it will be worth it.check out this list of korean productshttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pVXBlcQx349Xo0Mza3RrKsymgwxwzwjI0ju0b9OD1yYNA/EU look intohttps://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/ultra-light-moisturizing-lotion-spf-30https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/face/face-moisturizer/toleriane-double-repair-facial-moisturizer-with-spf-tolerianedoublerepairuvspf30.html
>>18354257you should get a second opinion from another dermatologist. you have have mild eczema or psoriasis.you could try a few different things.- salicylic acid soap -https://www.cerave.com/skincare/cleansers/sa-cleanser-bar-for-rough-and-bumpy-skinthis could help remove some of the dead skin.- heavier moisturizer -https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/body/body-lotion/lipikar-ap-m-triple-repair-body-moisturizer-for-dry-skin-lipikarbalmap.htmlhttps://www.eucerinus.com/products/intensive-repair/eucerin-intensive-repair-very-dry-skin-lotionyou should moisturize immediately after showering. like within a few minutes of drying off.- heavier spf -https://www.laroche-posay.us/our-products/face/face-moisturizer/toleriane-double-repair-facial-moisturizer-with-spf-3337875888035.html- petrolatum -https://www.aquaphorus.com/products/body-care/healing-ointmenthttps://www.cerave.com/skincare/moisturizers/healing-ointmenthttps://www.vaseline.com/us/en/p/vaseline-healing-jelly-original.html/00305212352009let your body moisturizer sit for a little bit and then put a thin layer of a petrolatum based product to lock it in. these are occlusives meaning no water passes through them. target the driest parts at least; elbows, knees, hands, feet. if it's too heavy for the daytime, you'll still benefit from only doing it before bed.- laundry detergent -https://www.persillaundry.com/us/en/products/by-variant/sensitive/sensitive-skin-2x-concentrated-liquid-laundry-detergent.htmlhttps://tide.com/en-us/shop/type/liquid/tide-free-and-gentle-liquid>is it possible to totally revamp your skin throughout your 20s and fix damage?of course. you're young and you should be patient with yourself. it can take a few months of using a product before you can see results. finding all the things that work for _your_ skin can take years of trial and error. it's worth it once you get there. the biggest thing you need to watch out for is scarring from acne and sun damage.
>>18355144>someone with oily skin probably would like it as much. wouldn't*>>18355260>you have have mild eczema or psoriasis.may have*sorry, typos.
>180 bucks for a small bottle of vitamin c serumis it worth it going down that rabbithole?
is tonymoly a meme? I've heard good things about their snail mucus shit, but not much about the rest of the brand. also is snail mucus a meme? am chink if that helps answer
rate my stack in order:Face mask: Tonymoly Collagen Peptide Boosting shot hydrogel maskToner: ISHIZAWA LAB Keana Nadeshiko Moisturizing Rice TonerI actually don't know what this is but it was recommended: Tonymoly collagen Peptide Boosting Shot Ampouleeye stuff: tonymoly gold 24k snail eye serum ballmoisturizer light to heavy: Kiehl's ultra facial cream, curel intensive moisture care, Dr. G Dermoisture Barrier.D multi balmYes I am chink, no I'm not gay. I think I have oily skin, but the area around my chin is chronically dry. Do I need anything else? any product recommendations?
What suggestions for a Vitamin C serum (EU). Currently I have the - Germaine de Capuccini Timexpert Radiance Pure C10. But it is rather expensive considering how fast it gets used up and the shell life is short.Currently using serum AM and retinol (Ordinary 1%) PM everyday. Main skin issues are capillary redness from very strong acne I had for many years, not sure if this would help much without laser intervention.
do i go with skinorac or alldaychemist for shipping to eu/poland?
>>18356484Geek & Gorgeous or Timeless>>18356157sunscreen>>18355543nope, get something cheaper, see my recs above
This Etude Soon Jung 10-Free Moist Emulsion saved my dry and red skin. My sister gave me a few of her skincare samples from a Korean store she buys from, and this one was so good I made her buy me a full tube. Depending on where you live I think price varies, she found this for $15 USD. A little goes a long way. I used to use a cerave cream but this one is honestly better, even if it's an "emulsion", whatever the hell that means. Would definitely suggest for dry, flaked, red skin.
>>18356157By the way, just in case you didn’t know and aren’t trolling, the curel is a body cream, not face
why the fuck is my face oily until my jaw, then my jaw and chin are ashy as fuck?
>>18355543I use the Paula's Choice Vitamin C and it was literally half that. It's considered the good Vitamin C too. What the fuck are you buying that's 180 dollars?
>>18357351well, you don't need a moisturizer
>>18351280What a bummer, I was planning to try it
hello frens,I'm starting to fall into the /skg/ rabbit hole. I'm 27yo ( almost 28 ) and I want to start taking care of my face. I used to just wash face with water and used an all-body lotion.Since last week, my routine has been:morning1) wash face with Low PH Good morning Gel cleanser.2) let face dry, no towel3) put on moisturizer ( UNO cream protection)4) if going out, I put on sunscreen night routine1) VERSED cleansing balm to remove sunacreen2) wash face with cleansing gel3) let face dry4) apply REMEDY pore size (0.3% retinol, 1% Salicylic, 5% niacinamide)5) apply UNO cream protection moisturizer6) vaseline on lips should i think about using tretinoin? also, any recommendations for eye bags?thabks luv
Ive been using this shit for months now and it works, but its simply too damn expensive to justify buying if i dont have too. From what i can tell, the only difference between this and the 20% as expensive daily moisturizer is the 4% niacinimide. Any idea if thats actually worth it?
>>18359281you could just buy a niacinimide serum if you really cared also pretty sure cvs or walgreens carries a generic for that lotion specifically
>>18344959depends, there are products that are very low ph and it would be best for skin wait to get back to its normal ph before applying next product. i checked once how much time do i need to wait after applying vit c serum before applying some cream (azelaic acid i think) and it said 3 minutes>How long does it usually take you guys to do your skincare routine in the morning?5 minutes, sometimes 10>>18345086good idea>>18346865that you have to pay the price for not using sunscreen (prevention)>>18347217good product to slug with after using too much retinoids or overexfoliating. lasts a long time>>18347602id start with cutting dairy and not only dairy, but also overall slop and processed foodor it might be just an outside activity for youthere are thermal water based products but i wouldnt expect them to do wonders
>>18347941try not eating dairy/slop for 2 weeks and drink more waterpost routine>>18348922another idea: see if its because of water in your apartment. wash your face with bottled water for 2 weeks or something>>18350154>was wondering if the damage is going to be permanent only if you fuck with the zits/cysts deep in the skin>>18350583nta, go see a professional for best advice>>18351106>should I still wait around 20 minutes after rinsing and drying my face of the face cleanser before putting on the tretyesabsolutely retarded state of this websiteError: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
>>18351280see https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10665711>>18351312if panoxyl and tret did not work, go to derm>>18351604doubt it, because you wont eat these in large amount anyway>Also what’s the difference between a moisturizer containing SPF vs using a separate moisturizer and sunscreen?not much difference, some sunscreens require use of moisturizezr (for me it was BoJ rice probiotic spf)also if you get sunscreen and moisturizer from the same company/line, they will have similar formula and some people might be interested in centella moisturizer and probiotic sunscreenbut many sunscreens are moisturizing anyway
>>18351794mine disappear before they come out or anything happens. using taz too>>18352182i think it had a few reviews on youtube on channels like Doctorly but dont remember what they said>a lot propaganda for some brands how else you post a recommendation?>>18352324post your goalsno goals = no skincare>>18352404side effects comes with everything>>18352464it is better to use a product that contains it. iirc it is used for anti oxidant properties, both for skin but also for formulationextremely retardedError: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
>>18347633see if there are Boderm products available in your area, it is a Greek company but maybe they import to your region. they have tazarotene (called Tazarene) but is sold as a cosmetic, not a drug; they work around laws in certain countries that way. was banned in my country after a year of market presence unfortunatelyyou could also ask their support/email them if they have any success shipping to Vietnam. was wondering to do that myself (for shipping to EU)>>18353628any>>18353768yeah shit happens, our skin dont tolerate certain products, formulations, ingredientstry another one, cerave AM for example. make sure it does not have alcohol. if this one will irritate you too, look for one without niacinamide>>18355940>is tonymoly a meme?the prices certainly seem to be a meme. normally i would look for reviews be careful if they are paid for>is snail mucus a meme?cant really find any relevant info on topical use other than wound healing
>>18356157you seem to go for everything except the actual core of any skincare routine which is sunscreen and a retinoid>my chin is chronically dryheavier moisturizer or slug with vaseline/petroleum jelly>>18357194does not look like it has some miracle ingredients but thanks for the rec>>18357351because you have mixed type of skin (dry + oily). get cerave pm. niacinamide and moisturizing itself will reduce oiliness and dry patches will be sorted out. it is also oil free which is usually recommended for mixed type of skin>>18358862all looks good>2) let face dry, no toweluse towel, do not wipe but pat gently>should i think about using tretinoin?you can gradually get into it over time, sure>also, any recommendations for eye bags?contact professional for best advice, usually nothing topical will help with these>>18359281>4% niacinimide. Any idea if thats actually worth it?niacinamide helps with reducing oiliness, redness, helps with acne. it has many uses. if you dont care about these then get the alternative. if you do, maybe a drop or two of 10% niacinamide serum to mix with moisturizer will do the trickpretty sure you can get something similar though. check your local skincare companies
>>18350125I have the same issue. This might sound dumb, but what helps me is not pulling the skin very tight.
>>18359445>>18359449>>18359451>>18359474>>18359476>>18359484Extreme mental illness
>>18359445>i checked once how much time do i need to wait after applying vit c serum before applying some cream (azelaic acid i think) and it said 3 minutesThat makes sense. It certainly feels dried after only 5 minutes.My only real reservation is how long I should wait after applying moisturizer before applying sunscreen. I don't generally bother waiting around for the sunscreen to set since I'm indoors most of the day anyway but I do want to make sure it's actually coating my skin and adhering correctly.
Maybe OT but I am losing some weight but will bulk up at the gym but now I see that I am more gaunt on one side of my face. Would sculptra be good for me as a male in early to mid 20s to try and correct this and make myself more symmetrical?
>>18359514giving the best advice is not mental illness u lil niglet
Is Ordinary a good brand for skin care? I've never really used anything, maybe Neutrogena or Nivea from time to time, sometimes I buy cheap ones but want to try something better. Mostly, moisturizers and serums for more radiant skin. I already have clear skin with no pimples or anything but need it to look less dry and old.
>>18359984id say when moisturizer dried upcant say specific amount of minutes because- the moisturizer can soak in fast (cerave pm) or slow (lipikar baume ap+m), also depends on your skin- the amount of moisturizer also affects the time to dryi think the main idea is to not mix two different products because their formulation will "change" and might not work as intended (products might start piling, some actives wont work that well in presence of a product with different ph or certain ingredients etc)> I do want to make sure it's actually coating my skin and adhering correctly.this is probably overkill but i guess it provides a peace of mind, no idea how much it costs thoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0f3GMiIqI4>>18360023if this is neck i wouldnt care about it at all. lift some more and see how it goes>>18360320>Is Ordinary a good brand for skin care?its okay, often recommended by derms on youtube, but as all companies they have some products that are not the best and it is better to look elsewhere or skip them completely. the ordinary in particular has many serums in their portfolio that has one or two ingredients. because of this, it would be best to make an educated purchase and learn what they do beforehand. a 10% niacinamide serum seem great at first but no clinical trial was done with 10% concentration, they are usually 2-5%. some people get irritation/redness because of high concentration >more radiant skin. I already have clear skin with no pimples or anything but need it to look less dry and old.so you need a basic routine which is cleanser, sunscreen, retinoid, moisturizer. not sure which of these are good in the ordinary line. for recs from other companies check the archive
Once you start using a retinol/retinoid/derivative, how long are you supposed to continue using it, only until you see results? Does it become a life-long thing? I have been using a <1% retinol product daily for 6 months for acne scars, saw improvement, but now see I've hit a plateau. Scars are now only barely visible. Do I need to move to something stronger?
