>rapidly ageing millennial taper edition.General discussion about all things denim, workwear, heritage and americana.Don't forget to tailor, shrink and wash your jeans, boys.Previous: >>18337003
>>18343652Just got my uniqlos raw demin. Best quality raw demin I've tried >not a shill
>>18343652>Is that a pair of pants which FIT the contours of the BODY>ahhh help me I'm going insane
>>18343661It shows off his ever so slightly knocked knees too which is so sick, looks great.
>>18343656Uniqlo is unironically great value for tge price when it cones to denim. Moreso the selvedge straights.
>>18343656>>18343696Where do they source their cotton from?
>>18343698AFAIK, Kaihara. At least for their selvedge and some of their non-selvedge jeans.
>>18343705>KaiharaIs it better than Kurabo?
>>18343707I'm not really sure. The stuff I've seem from both looked and felt pretty similar to me. My layman opinion is that they're more or less on par.
Where the fuck do you get selvedge denim tailored?
Has anyone handled this samurai shirt before? Any thoughts before pulling the trigger? What’re these little handles on the sides about?
>>18343721Forgot pic
>>18343696Do these use old shuttle looms?>>18343661Unironically this, they look good. >>18343664Also this, his knocked knees aren’t great but that’s the models problem. >>18343652>seething incel zoomer rejecting the chad millennial.
>>18343725You're quite wrong, in a most humourous way.
Is anyone else getting sick of this whole millenial taper polemic? I'm 38 years old and don't like to feel jeans flopping about around my iron rangers, so what? If I want jeans to hug my hips and my calves why does that mean I should be ridiculed?
>>18343748Looks good anon. You don’t have to look like a Xer thriving in the 90s or zoomer flopping around today.
>>18343748This fit works. If you were a boxy flannel on top you’d probably want to wear straight cuts. Different jeans for different fits. Zoomers are too stupid to think outside their Instagram feed
>>18343748Based. Millennium Tapper is just a forced meme, you can ignore them.
>>18343759What looks really good is the super rounded top block giving him a really masculine silhouette
What pair of jeans will remain dark blue instead of turning the color of 4channel posts after a few years?
>>18343767Something where the weft is also dyed indigo
I think im going to cop the denime 220XX-47.Anyone have any experience with denime? I know it's a warehouse sub label and love me some warehouse denim.
>>18343789Not enough taper, but looks fine for a self loathing zoomer
>>18343789What's special about it?
>>18343812>What's special about it?1947 repro detailing and denim in a just ever so slightly slimmed down straight leg cut. Also warehouse designs good denim fabrics
>>18343652Hey, Just here to remind you autistic faggots that Iron Hearts and H&M jeans are fundamentally the same and that most of you don't know the actual definition of fundamental so i have to assume most of you are pajeets
>>18343784Any recs?
>>18343767i hear back in the old days people used to set the dye in new jeans with vinegar.haven't tried it though.
>>18343854Something like this but dark blue https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/burgus-plus-bottoms/products/771-99 would be cool
>>18343870Overdyed Iron Hearts is another option. I've heard they can create incredibly beautiful fades. I also like the deep blue hue of natural indigo, but it's almost always woven with white weft.
>>18343854Just google indigo x indigo. Burgus plus Black x Black was just something I was looking at the other day. But seems to be a common thing. Or try navy chinos for a change
>>18343853>got BTFO’d a few threads ago after claiming that IH and H&M jeans are the same >had to move the goal post to talk about the word “fundamental” >still obsessing over that moment
>>18343748It’s 1 or 2 autists trying to force a meme. This does not look good
>>18343933Yikes zoomers are going back to their mommy’s house to cry
>>18343853>H&M jeans>1% elastanePass
>>18343933Those aren’t tapered jeans, they are the 634 which is a straight cut. For some reason, they thought it would be a good idea to put that model in one size too small. Pic related are my 634s. They feel more like a “fitted” straight cut compared to my 40s and 50s repros, but you aren’t supposed to have paint on thighs. They are still supposed to have some relaxation, they’re actually more balanced than you think. Putting someone in one size too small results in that corny ass flared bootcut look where the thighs are hugging and because of that the hem looks like it’s flaring out.
>>18343952Nice bell bottoms, bottom bitch
Don't buy Sugar Canes. Bought once, got the pointy ass bug, returned them. When I look into the internet, I find out all models have the same problem. They're just jeans for THICC BOOTY boys. Fine, happy they've got something for their soft hips, but I'm more on the side of straight active men, sorry SG.
>>18343959>buy jeans made for skinny Asians>complain that he can’t fill in seatWhat did he mean by this?
>>18343748Subtle bait, good job.
>>18343725>Do these use old shuttle looms?AFAIK, they do use shuttle looms for tge selvedge fabric
Rate my fit /fa/-san
>>18343963You need to have a big protruding juicy boybutt to wear this stuff.
millennial taper bros... It's our moment to shine... Listening to fleet foxes rn...
>>18343952You have the exact same flaring, just to a lesser extent.
>>18344007>gay boots>pants tucked into jeans>flannel tucked into pants>low rise pants with tucked in shirt>too small jacket>nice watch7/10 above average fit
>>18344029Thanks, I actually don’t mind the jacket length but it is just a bit too tight in the chest, wish I’d sized up, but it is what it is
>>18343952That size looks fine up top since the 21oz stretches like mad. My 634 looked comparable above the knee when I first put them on, but the next size up was 2+" too big in the waist.The issue with that model is that the jeans are way too long so the extra material is flaring out. The effect is made worse by the fact that the plain indigo is noticably wider than the OD below the knee to start, since the latter tightens up during dyeing.>>18343959Asslet detected. Sugar Cane 1947s are a great cut.
>>18343952>the exact UHF I want and can never obtainyou sick bastard
cop? not?
>>18344028Check your eyes.
>>18344035Yea maybe that’s what it was. Something seemed small on the jacket. I’ve done that a few times. I’m usually happier with too big than too small.
>>18343698uniqlo uses a few different sources for their selvedge denim. kaihara taiwan (not the japan mill) is the main one. i also have some uniqlo selvedge that's milled in china and some uniqlo selvedge milled in bangladesh. its good denim regardless of the origin. i actually really like my bangladesh pair they're the slowest fading jeans i've ever owned in my life. >>18343705kaihara taiwan specifically. although i've not noticed a huge quality difference with their japan mill. >>18343725yup.>>18343716if you're lucky enough to live near a stockist's irl location there's usually a tailor nearby they send everyone to who specializes in denim. doesn't hurt to ask at local upscale stores like nordstrom etc they often will have a rolodex of local tailors that they know are good who they send people to. that's how i found the guy i've been using forever. whenever you get a new tailor, test them out with some garments you don't care as much about before handing over your expensive new jeans to avoid tragedies. >>18344007ooe yofukuten's moleskin cossack jacket is made for you.
How do I bring myself to wear more blue jeans? I can't get away from black or overdyed
>>18343952This is not the good look you seem to think it is LMAO
>>18344038>Asslet detected. Sugar Cane 1947s are a great cut.No they aren't. Pic related. Ugly as fuck. I'll post more if you insist. Also they weren't 1947 that I returned. They were 1966. All models with backs designed for women and thicc twinks.
>>18344148> ooe yofukuten's moleskin cossack jacket is made for you.Yeah looks like a nice jacket, thanks for the rec
>>18344038>Asslet detected.Is this meant to be some sort of epic burn?
>>18344028Those jeans look slightly tapered. You are blatantly retarded
>>18343721>>18343722>6oz shirt. Ngmi this winter.
>>18343716you have to mail it to a group of autists somewhere in new york or california
>>18343721Apparently Samurai's prices are going up by a good amount in 2025. Get anything you want from them now.
I could fucking puke.
>>18344214bongthong pingdingthangarangkorn puts in work
>>18343959>he doesn't squat>he has weak legs>he complains about a 1947 repro cutlike clockwork
>>18344182>>18344011>I'll post more if you insist.you keep posting twinks. they shouldn't be wearing 1940s repro cuts
>>183442144 years no washes
>>18344236Imagine the smell. >>18344231Pretty much this. Wearing wide cuts as a twink is the equivalent of wearing skinny jeans as a fat
>>18344212I’d imagine most nip companies will. The is somewhat unrelated, but I am a nip tea drinker. I received an email that this is the first time ever that Kyoto sold out of matcha and couldn’t keep up with production. The main reason was exports. I’m sure now that Japan is allowing exports the demand skyrocketed for everything and the prices will increase. The local nips will probably be upset.
>>18344241>The local nips will probably be upset.That's what they get for what they didRemember Dec 7
>>18344246I think you mean Jan 6, orange man bad
>>18343767Momotaros. Mine are 9 months old and have no whiskering and only some very slight lightening in high use areas like the seat. It is still essentially all dark blue
>>18344214SEA, guaranteed.
>>18344214An Indonesian millenial with some sandpaper owned these jeans.
>>18344269My Japan blue jeans did similar. And they’re make by the same people, just uses other cotton other than Zimbabwean and maybe cuts some other corners. But mine has sashika pockets which are nice
Thoughts on these Black Sign Vocalion waist overalls? I asked about wide leg jeans in the last thread and I may be able to get these for a great price. Has anyone here owned anything from Black Sign before?
>>18344395Back. These have no yoke. I like the cinch and single pocket
>>18344269>>18344339Yeah, good recs. Studio D’Artisan should also be slow-faders, according to what people say.
>>18344395I’m not sure if I could pull off the vocalian jeans, but they are for sure some of the nicest fading repro style denim ive seen. I’ve seen some IG menswear accounts (DenimDentist, VintageFuture) that have pairs and the silhouette actually looks really sick when paired with a pair of engineers or some black horsehide service boots. I’d say that if you can pull off the ultra wide 30s/40s cuts without looking really goofy then go for it. I guess my only concern is that they seem like you’d have to really lean into the whole 30s/40s repro style and the overall vibe would not allow much versatility for other styles
My Unbranded jeans are over 2 months old and still stand on their own. How long does 21oz take to break in?
>>18344519Buy decent jeans next time
Are these Levi's broken twill? Are they evenbreal or a fake? I thought Levis didn't make broken twill jeans.
Are samurai jeans good?
>>18344538They’re fake.>>18344541They’re very good, especially from an aesthetic point of view, but they use cotton thread construction so the durability is compromised. It’s the reason why I don’t want to buy them. Samurai trousers are great though, almost better than their jeans imo.
>>18344397>>18344395Le post ironic, unironic zoomer hipster
>>18344208No, you are retarded. Look at the leg openings moron. Guy looks like he stole those from his dads closet.
>>18344609They’re slightly tapered. Quit posting.
This would improve the fit infinitely.
>>18344633What? Painting two orange stripes?
>>18344527The cut is actually my favorite over others I own, including Iron Heart. But yeah, obviously it's cheaper construction. But does that really matter desu. Let's be real.
The problem with the rapidly ageing millennial taper is that the cuts were also very skinny and had a very low rise. That fit only works with a handful of specific physiques but became the norm. Can't really blame normies that much because at the time it was almost impossible to find jeans and trousers that didn't adhere to that atrocious design principle. Hell, even these days slim and skinny cuts are going strong at your local mall.Straight with a slight taper with a mid rise, being a middle of the road, should be the meta for most guys. I tend to gravitate to that or slim straight cuts similar to the original 505.
>>18344395>>18344397kino. the only thing that kind of sucks about early pattern jeans is that suspenders every day is a commitment. i like jeans like that personally.if you wind up liking them also look into denim military dungaree repros. a lot of them have that same sort of yokeless + cinch + wide fit and belt loops, earlier ones will also be single rear pocket, etc. just the detailing's different.>>18344182>>18343959pay attention to stuff like the yoke shape/angle/height and the overall shape of the upper block and how much it tapers. it varies a lot brand to brand on repros of the same jeans. probably the main thing they all tweak. you never rly get measurements but you can kinda work things out from relative geometry close enough to know if the pants will look good on you or not. helps if you know something like the front/rear rise height. if you have some jeans you like the fit of take a close look at these details on them and buy similar jeans.sugar cane def has a specific body type in mind. when i get more fitted jeans i look for jeans like theirs on my body type personally. diaper butt sometimes goes away w/ washes btw. don't give up hope before you wash once or twice.
>>18344519i remember my n&f elephant 1's and 3's becoming soft sweatpants around the 2 year mark & i was doing warehouse shit or ups back then. only washed both of them once then gave them away to a friend. iirc the unbranded 21oz is a very similar fabric or maybe even the same fabric as elephant 1 was?>>18344677i am the kind of guy that low rise painted on jeans are made for and i still don't wear them very often. i don't care how skinny you are, you throw a sweater and a jacket on and god forbid some gloves and a scarf and you become so top heavy its comical. i think i only really wore them during their heyday because they fade really fast, so i could post cool fade pics online.
>>18344651No, tapering them you zoomer
>>18344700This is the way. With experience zoomers will learn that form fitting clothing is best. In the 30s they just made what was easy. We have the technology and hard working nips to make perfect fitting jeans now.
>>18343722I buyed
>>18344700tapering is gay. pants should be perfectly rectangular and have little to no break
>>18343652Millennials love taper fits because it makes them look thinner head on, once seen by profile the illusion is destroyed. notice all the fit pits are never taken from the side or an angle, just directly head on
For me, it's Onyx.
>>18343789I got the 220A. Only thing i got to say is they dont shrink much in the waist so dont buy them too loose. I know the website says 6 cm but count more like 2 cm. Mine fit kinda shitty because of that so i dont wear them much.
Impromptu reminder it's pronounced DE-NÌ-MAY (or -MEH, it's a Latin E). The accent rigorously on the middle syllable.
>>18344784Hugely helpful post anonI was hesitant because in the old days i could check super future for peoples actual shrinkage results but i had no idea where to look for current pairs.Generally i think one wash is the way to go for fixing this issue. I get that denime is sold raw because they are trying to create the 90s jap denim experience but there is a reason why most brands switched to one wash.
>>18344706I am an athletic build millennial who used to wear the tapered cuts. The 40s-60s repro cuts are superior. Tapered cuts look ridiculous, you cannot fit the hem easily over a pair of boots. Those form fitting jeans are not that comfortable, and I feel really gay wearing jeans that hug my legs like that. I much prefer wearing regular straight cuts with a minimal, balanced taper. It’s just a classic design and you don’t look like a tryhard doofus when wearing them
Millennial taper looks fine if you have a 31” or smaller waist and a slim build. The problem is all these brands making the same cuts up to a 38" or 40" waist.
>>18344800Zoomies will never accept you as one of their own. You’ll just look like a try hard doofus trying to pick up zoometes. Lean into your age
>>18344803Sounds like a nice projection you have going on there. I think I’ll live with my comfortable jeans that aren’t form fitting and homosexual
>>18344696I wear my jeans to work so I have to wash them about once a month, at least. It's sometimes a dirty job. So I have washed my 21oz twice, already. I actually hope repeated washes helps soften them and break them in.
Trying some new jeans from Indigofera, I wanted something slimmer without being too skinny and causing the unbalanced top heavy look.Top pair is the Kain 18oz Wolly. High rise, a little slimmer than most straight repro fits, but it doesn't have a severe taper. 14 inch rise, 18 inch leg opening. Solves every issue I had with the Iron Heart 888s, also has a great texture to it. https://secondsunrise.se/products/indigofera-kain-jeans-kobakama-wolly-denim-copy?variant=5035595323834Bottom pair is the Wyatt, which is their bootcut. The hem is a little under an inch wider than the knee, fits great over wider logger style boots and doesn't look like an exaggerated bootcut. It's cut similar to the Kain with a slightly lower rise at 13 inches and a leg opening of 19 inches.https://secondsunrise.se/products/indigofera-wyatt-jeans-low-desert-denim?variant=50325074116935I'll post fit pics when they dry, I did a hot soak and wash to get the shrink out of the way, shrinkage on both pairs was minimal.
>>18344835Unrelated, but my favorite thing about second sunrise is that they rep Wranglers in their fit pics. The Brycelands shirt here costs 10x what the pants do.Anyway, post some fit pics with those. I like that western cuts are trickling back into denim retailers, though I dislike that a lot of them have straight cut top blocks rather than ones that taper in towards the waistband.
>>1834480990% of the 4chan users who rant using buzzwords to refer to imaginary human generations are simply projecting
>>18344850>my favorite thing about second sunrise is that they rep Wranglers in their fit picsMine is that they use a cute girl for some of their clothes
>>1834483518” leg opening?
>>18344859Yes. 18 inch leg opening for the Kain, 19 inch for the Wyatt.
>>18344862That’s twice my widest leg opening. But I’m a 30” waist. But the jeans look nice. Good pick.
>>18344851Wow so meta
>>18344875....the widest jeans you own have a 9 inch leg opening?Anon, I don't think you're measuring properly. The complete circumference of the leg opening for the Kain is 18 inches. The half measurement is 9 inches. Are you saying the complete opening of your jeans is only 9 inches wide?
>>18344826>I actually hope repeated washes helps soften them and break them in.it will soften them up much faster.>>18344875you're comparing halved and non halved measurements. 18=9
>>18344880>>18344881Kek that sounds right. Seems like the nips measure half. My largest leg opening is 18” circumference.
How to achieve this vibe as a white person in modern times
>>18344948Google Hugh Hefner
Do the Uniqlo selvedge straight jeans shrink much if at all? I can't seem to find a definitive answer, I'd like to try some but they seem too baggy for my skelly ass as is.
>>18344929>18"pussy shit22" is ideal
>>18344948Bathrobe and cardboard tube stuck in your belt
>>18344850What shirts could I find that have mentioned tapered Top block?
Just copped a TCB 50s jacket. Normally a medium in jackets but this is a L/XL in size 42. Hope it fits well.
>>18345076Not in my experience, about 1-2cm everywhere. Problem with uniqlo is that they seem to be inconsistent with that, along with how they fade. Kind of a lottery, you don't know if you're gonna get fast or slow faders.But they're cheap jeans so it doesn't really matter.
>>18345328Post pics when you get it.
>>18344835nice rug
Update on my Red Tornado 55501. I've been wearing them almost daily since I've got them. They're showing some subtle streaks of fading already and developing a big deal of fuzziness. In retrospect, I should have probably sized down.
>>1834510522” sounds like nigger wear. Do you sag them too?
Any thoughts on green tea denim? I’m contemplating Bronson olive chinos or red tornado green tea jeans
Thoughts on white denim?
>>18345804Very gay
>>18345804I'd rather have undyed denim.
Should you button up your pants before folding and storing them? Will it make a long term difference?
>>18345804feels domesticated and non-threatening now
>>18343696I can't even use their retarded website anymoreits the most retarded website ive ever used why does every website need to copy car company websites with insane slide page bullshit
>>18345856Ok i just went to itthey fixed it and now you can actually navigate to types of clothes instead of going on a never ending web scrolling pick your own adventure journey
>>18345856I don't know if I'm getting old and technology is surpassing me or if web design and tech has been getting worse over the past ten years. Personally I blame pajeets.
>>18345840Does any brand sell actual undyed denim?
>>18345842Dunno, but I button the top and zip up the zipper if applicable. It just makes folding easier.
>>18345872N&F
>>18345881Guess I'd have to see it in person but how does that differ from cream/beige jeans?
>>18345889I’m assuming cream and beige pants are dyed. These are just undyed denim.
>>18345842The fade will be different
>>18345896But I mean the way they'd look. There's hardly a difference on the pics. That's why I said I'd have to see them in person.
>>18345889I think it may look a bit less "clean" as it is just natural cotton without being corrected.
>>18345943White denim is bleached, natural denim is off-white and sometimes still has the cotton seeds in it.
>>18345804harder to hide shart stains.
Just ordered a pair of Freewheelers 1947. I love 40s cuts, and the dimensions on this seem really balanced. Nice wide leg but with a tiny bit more taper than the Sugarcane 1947
>>18343652/fa guide to the perfect jean cuff anyone? I feel like I'm doing it wrong.
>>18346027If you’re doing double cuff, the cuff thickness should be 1.5-1.75”, no less, no more. If you are doing a single cuff, it should be 1.75-2” thick. Completely avoid triple cuffing
>>18346032that's what I already do (the shorter double cuff) but it never looks as clean as in other peoples' pictures :(
fit check
>>18346042>Type II pattern with a type III silhouettegarbage
>>18346033I don't understand what you mean by clean. Measure each cuff to make sure it falls within that tolerance of thickness and that they match one another. If you want to be very autistic like I am, you can iron the cuffs so that the creases are really set and they don't lose their shape
>>18346042https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZqo4OZ0Pqs
>>18346042tuck your shirt inbutton up those buttonsall of them
Could a regular tailor alter a chainstitched flannel shirt without a chainstitching machine? I just need an inch hemmed off the bottom
>>18345329Thanks, I appreciate the response as I'm quite new to this. Why are they so baggy? They're bigger than athletic cuts that are 2 sizes larger in the waist
>>18346187They're straight fits from a jap brand. Japs like their straight fits to be on the loose side, partially because of the jap tradition and partially because that's how old straight fits used to fit. This advice might come too late for you, but on uniqlo selvedge you shpuld get your true size on slim cuts and can go down a size on straights if you want a snuggier fit.You can also wash them on hot water and tumble dry to try to shrink them a bit.
>>18346027No one looks at your ankles, fag.
>>18346409Really? Cause it seems like there's an army of taper watching zoomers in these threads with their eyes peeled for so called "millenial taper".
What the fuck is a relaxed tapper?
>>18346409A fucked up cuff draws my eyes to it right away.
>>18346412relaxed upper block and thigh, sharply tapered. only looks good on skinny short guys imo. >>18346042i remember lolling at this pic a decade ago.
has anyone owned Dior denim? I really wanna try them because of the back darts, I squat 300lbs so I have a larger rear. My current pair of raws has been getting a lot of wear, Momotaro 0405s. fades so slowly tho
>>18346439>fades so slowly thoThat's good. Dark indigo is for men, discolored blue with heaths of white is for fags.
What do you guys think of Left Field Mt Vernon Rodeo Blue jeans?
>>18346439Just go with a pair of 40s repros. I’m a squatfag too and wear:>Fullcount 0105xx>Sugarcane 1947>Samurai s3000>Freewheelers 1947
>>18346518I'm looking for a leg opening smaller than 7"only wear 7" leg opening with combat bootsDior have the back dart which makes the rear look better and not bunch up which is why I want them
>>18346518Suagarcane's fine only if you have a gigantic ass
Other brands that do unorthodox colors and use uncommon denim and so on?
>>18346528More like Naked & Reddit.
>>18346524He literally said he does
>>18346010those are too shortgreat color tho
>>18346520Check out Samurai s520 in either their 15 or 21 oz denim. It’s got a medium/high rise, relaxed thigh, and a taper around that hem size. I wore these for a bit and they were VERY comfortable. The top block fit better than anything I’ve ever worn, and the leg mobility was unmatched. I gave them to my dad because I eventually started hating tapered cuts
>>18346544Still, they're different from the other three models. The other three fit a broader variety of bodies.
>>18346548The Fullcount 0105xx is literally bigger with a big ass upper block
>>18346412Essential millenial core
>>18346545Ordered in size 34, should be about a 32.5-33” inseam based on all the size charts I’ve seen. My other repros have a 33” inseam and they are perfect for a single cuff. Regardless, the denim looks superb
Tela Genova
>>18346528indonesian brands like pinion and the likes.pure blue japan.tender & co. >>18346439i did... nearly 20 years ago. you want the mij selvedge ones. they're overpriced but still kinda the gold standard for high end skinny jeans. superdenim has a metric fuckload of pictures of how they fade. if you're only interested in them for the seat darting keep in mind you could also just have a tailor take in the waist and do vertical darts on the rear pockets of a diff pair of jeans. can't be any more expensive than a pair of diors. i've never tried to have horizontal darts added like diors have but vertical ones inside/above the back pockets are a pretty common alteration. also>viapiana, denim bridge, rebuilt.jp, fittedunderground, bridge of the times, ciano farmer, soso, etc.you can get a full on bespoke pair of jeans exactly how you want for less than diors these days. but you have to be kinda confident in the measurements and shape you want.
>>18346412the best looking fit around, it will be back before you know it. wide leg is a meme.
>>18346702Maybe in a few decades. It’s out the door right now. Straight leg and wide straight will always be around despite whichever trends are hot at any given moment
>>18346702This shit is never coming back pendejo, sorry to break it to you
I got those black corduroy jeans from Mister Freedom and they are really nice.
>>18343652i just got naked and famous jeans in "easy guy" fit and holy shit, i have never seen a fit so abhorrent.why the fuck did i listen to you retards?
>>18346873I don't think I've ever seen anyone recommend the easy guy, true guy is their best cut and the strong guy is most on trend. Did you even look at the measurement chart? Seems like it is you who is the retard.
>>18346882you are a fat
>>18346888you're the fatty that bought the Easy Guys, extremely tapered jeans for fatties
>>18346873>why the fuck did i listen to you retards?Gottem
Indigofera Kain Wolly jeans after a hot soak and hot wash. Minimal shrinkage, about 0.5 inch in the waist and .75 inches length. Going to give it one more hot wash to get as much shrinkage out as possible and then I'll hem them. Texture is great, very hairy after a single wash and a couple wears.The fit is exactly what I was looking for, it's what I was hoping for from Ironheart 888s. The front rise is 14 inches, the thighs are 22.5 inches but the leg opening is 18 inches, so there isn't much of a taper. They're a true slim straight jean, and then hem is plenty wide enough to go over boots. Only minor issue is the weight is listed as 18oz, but they feel the same as my 13oz jeans, I was expecting them to be heavier.All in all I'm really pleased and will definitely try most from Indigofera in the future.
>>18346922no head?
>>18346233Fair enough, I suppose in that case I'll probably shelve my qualms and give it a go. They're only a little bigger than other pairs I wear just fine after all.Nope not too late, I usually sit on the idea of any purchases for a while as I tend to be indecisive. My size is out of stock as well so I unfortunately have to wait either way. Thanks again for your insight friend
>>18346922looks really good, not overly slim or tapered and you have the right frame for it.not to say your sweater's too long on you but a shorter more vintage fitting one would really elevate your fit and look good with those jeans. show off the rise.
>>18346955machine wash tumble dry them and they turn into slim straights over time. all my uniqlos fit pretty slim on me now and i'm a twink not a big guy.
>>18346873Who the fuck recommended that fit?
>>18346922That's the fit I like on jeans. Unfortunatelly, my rapidly ageing millennial muscular thighs do not work welk with it. Not to mention I'm shorter than you and have a longer torso to leg ratio. Oh well.
>>18346922Bro I’m really really sorry for your head. Maybe you lost it in /tip/… Good luck!
>>18347008Just get Wrangler 13mwz. All the high end cowboy cut repros are cut bigger in the waist and smaller in the thigh than the OG
>>18346922Quick, someone geoguess which city this guy lives in so I can go uncuff his jeans
>>18346947>no head?Story of my life.>>18346957I'll try that out, the problem is finding a sweater with arms that are long enough with a cropped torso.>>18347008I can't help on the thighs part but my torso is also long, the rise on these jeans is just really high and makes my legs look longer than they arm. I'm 6'3 but my inseam is only 32 inches, the high rise is doing a lot of heavy lifting here.>>18347039Look man, I'm sorry you're one of the "cuffs are the gayest things a man can do" autists but I'm not hemming them until I get all the shrinkage out, that would be fucking retarded.
I wanna seriously know. What do some people have against cuffing? Talking about proper denim here.
>>18347050Go back to your gay conteinment thread
>>18347039Welcome to DC merry Christmas
>>18347061I prefer staying here and annoying whining, non contributing niggers such as yourself.
>>18347062DC? >>18347050Alright meet me at the cafe Milano and we'll straighten those jeans out
>>18347062>Welcome to DC merry ChristmasYou're close,but DC has height limits on buildings, there aren't any highrise apartment buildings in the city due to federal regulations on building dimensions.I live about an hour north in Baltimore.
>>18347068>>I live about an hour north in Baltimore.Imagine *choosing* to live in a shithole like Baltimore.
>>18347146Look at his cuffed jeans, this guy doesn't choose anything, he just follows the crowd, a natural slave.
>>18345533The AliExpress seller I had ordered my red tornadoes from ran out of the size I wanted and said they'd give me a coupon to make for it when they restock and they still haven't restocked :( should I size down and ask them for a coupon for that? I wear 32x32 in Uniqlo selvedge slim straight and ordered the same for a pair of unsanforized 55501s (I'm also Chinese but idk how that'd matter since it's not shirts that I'm ordering)
Good cheap options in 30x34? The Asian sellers usually don't have my size
>>18347218Dude what? What's cheap to you?
>>18347187Woah, Merry Christmas to me! Fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap
>>18347197Have you measured your jeans?
>>18347053There is literally nothing wrong with a single or double cuff with reasonable thickness, and it arguably adds a nice silhouette to your outfit. People on here get tunnel vision and are totally deluded by the retarded bits and pieces of culture that arbitrarily show up on this board on random days. Go out into the real world with a well fitting pair of jeans paired with a tasteful cuff and people will actually complement your outfit. Those who don’t like it will 99.9% never say it to your face, and even if they did say it to you it really goes to show they have no life and are looking for some sort of reaction.
>>18347053cuffs look great on straight and wide cuts. they just look retarded on skinny cuts especially with boots or high top hypebeast sneakers, and people are traumatized by that. big single cuff, small single cuff, double cuff, tokyo cuff are all gr8 looks the key is the leg opening has to be in proportion in width to how big of a cuff you're doing. also be aware they make you look a bit shorter usually, especially if you have a long torso leg ratio or sometimes even a balanced one. if you have long legs it usually looks good even if youre short. >>18347197repro fit right? asking bc red tornado makes a bunch of shit. conventional knowledge is to size UP 1-2 sizes with repro jeans if you're not going for a slim fit. i think they look best not tts anyways. do they have a size up for you? that's what i would get. well personally i would do 2.
>>18347256I fucking love cuffing a pair of 40s 501s and pairing them with sleek/narrow footwear.
>>18347197o also if you really want a tts fit you could always +1 size then just wash and tumble dry them once after a few months it should take them down about to that size. unsanf 1 wash jeans still have a good deal of shrink left in them if you use the tumble drier and warm water. >>18347257same i always just throw on my jeans and whatever shoes/sneakers for the day (im the anon who doesn't wear boots except @ work) then i decide if im gonna cuff or not and how im gonna do it based on however that pair of pants interacts w/ my shoe and what looks best. some of my jeans are kinda long bc im planning to shrink them more and some are a little too short so i wear them with highs/etc. i also really love the look of the horizontal line cracking you get if you cuff your jeans in the same spot a lot, then wear them un-cuffed.
>>18347257chuck 70/mij/addict high in black/yellow/red + 30s/40 wide fit looks so good. i have a curse where the cheapest shit in my wardrobe gets all the compliments and that combo is responsible quite often lately. sneaker meta for me is narrow ones that have deceptively wide toeboxes. i have a narrow foot but get whatever you call it where you get bunions on the side of your big toe. but my midfoot and heel is very narrow. chuck 70s a really good example i like it more than the mijs because the high foxing makes the toe look small. also partly why i like those cheap asics i was wearing earlier (i don't rec them the "leather" is dog shit i buy them for $30 at kohls to step in dog shit in)
>>18347187>Ruggago back to /r/mfa, faggot.
>>18347197I only did a warm soak on my jeans so far. They shrank about 1cm at the waist. Even so, they're still fairly loose around the waist, to the point they bunch a tiny bit when I fasten the belt. I'm confident I coukd have gone a size down and get a better overall fit.
>>18347037Yeah, I got a pair of 13mwz and tgey're my best fitting jeans. I would kill for a 13mwz in dark indigo selvedge.>>18347050I'm 5'10 with a 32 inseam (with a bit of break, I get no break with a 30). My lvc 505 in theory should look on me the same as yoir pic, but they're tight enough at the thighs to the point I foresee a crotch blowout in the future, while loose from the knee down.
>>18347068don't all your coworkers at the heritage foundation live in Virginia? how will you attend the post-office bar crawl?
>>18347257>I fucking love cuffingKill yourself.
>>18346509I like those, but I’m not sure I can pull them off.
>>18347676retarded zoomer detected
>>18347711Faggot Reddit cuffer detected. Kill yourself.
Cuff or you're fired. Cuff or you're fired.
>>18343748it's literally one guy trying to get his 15 minutes of fame by trying to force a meme it's not working so naturally he tries ever harder
>>18343748>huge giant ugly cuffs>still have ugly stacking just get them hemmed, holy shit
>>18344269i had momos that faded but it took them forever. they WILL fade, all denim and really all clothing does, just takes them ages
>>18347935Whoa, wait just a minute. Are you really saying that - hold on, I’m having a hard time grasping this - are you really telling me that denim fades? In a raw denim discussion thread? Holy. Fucking. Shit. This is massive.
>>18347933Kek, he must have a 26” inseam
When cuffing millenial taper jeans should you go thin or fat?
>>18347954Thin. Proportional to the pant leg.
>>18343952I’m going to call you “Le ebin soft workwear manlet faggot”
Any owner of Studio D'Artisan here?
>>18347982Yes
>>18348132How do you like them?
this is the fate of all Red Tornado posters
>>18348156It’s a slimmer fit than I would normally choose but I like the interesting material and the mud dye. I like the top block, it is cut very nice. The details are also nice.
>>18344395>>18344397I ended up buying these, but they probably won't be here until after New Year's. I paid $100 for them
I’ve been browsing 4chan since 2008 and /fa/ since 2011 and am actually considering a complete transfer over to Reddit. This board bitches and moans about “muh soi boi Reddit cringe”, but all I’ve ever seen on here in the last couple years are completely mediocre fits paired with a raging case of Dunning Kruger effect where people are immediately met with accusations of being le reddit manlet soibois whenever they put themselves out there on this board. It seems to me that people on Reddit have an equally terrible sense of style without all the immature antics and trolling. Why would I stay on here when all that ever gets discussed is whether cuffing is “le soii!!1!” or not? I suppose the only advantage this board has is that you can openly call someone a faggot nigger, but i wouldn’t really call that some sort of essential quality for a fashion image board
>>18348218reddit: has unbelievably shit taste.4chan: has better taste but constantly derailed by 1 or 2 trolls.superdenim: has good taste (if post is semi recent) but board moves glacially slow.instagram: super disjointed. best and worst taste exists here. takes forever to aggregate a decent feed. annoying to find good accounts and very niche-ified.youtube, tiktok: just trying to sell you shit for the most part. only a few channels worth watching if you're into their uber specific niches.pick your poison. if you're sick of this place i would just use ig or sufu's corpse.
>>18348218OK, but why move to reddit? You made a poor case defending that site.There's no point in using Reddit as in actually having an account and participating on it. The good thing about reddit (and yes, it has at least a good thing) is that it has some good info about super niche stuff that's hard to come by. Most of the tine when I google a very specific thing about and obscure subject, there's a thread on reddit with the exact answer I'm looking for. I just check, get the info and bail. No reason to further interact or browse there.
>>18348132I wonder if those stitches have and impact on the structure and the way the jeans will mold, stretch and shrink with use. Probably not to a significant degree, I guess.
>>18348159I don't see anyone wearing well constructed, well fitting and affordable jeans in this video.
>>18348342They historically used these types of stitching for firemen uniforms in Japan for its toughness and fire resistance. I have a few sashiko type pants and they mold and drape differently than standard stitched denim. >>18343722My samurai shirt came in today. Lots of nice details. Beautiful green color from the sulfur dying. Does anyone know if the chain stitching down the sides of the shirt do anything other than historical accuracy? And can I cut the chain stitch tassels?
>>18348218Reddit has extreme censorship and the upvote/downvote system suppresses dissenting opinions. 4chan is filled with barely sentient third world subhumans. Pick your poison, you lose either way.
Impulse copped some black/white shrink to fit Levi's on sale to have as beaters and now I'm pissed because the fit is literally perfect and I wanna wear them more than any of my nice jeans.>>18347982Yeah. I have the buckle back natty indigo anniversary denim. They're solid jeans even if the detailing makes them a bit niche.
>>18348556>I'm pissed because the fit is literally perfect and I wanna wear them more than any of my nice jeansI don't own supernce jeans, but I find myself reaching out for my cheaper stuff than my supposedly nice stuff more often than not.Happens with other stuff too>carefully plan and save to buy nice & expensive item I've wanted for ahes>barely wear it>impulse buy random item off the rack that caught my eye>turns out it's more comfortable, fits better and I feel better wearing it that the expensive, planned item>end up wearing the cheap expontaneously bought item on an almost daily basis
>>18348218Go back
>>18343652>nearly 2025>still no 1955 restock>still no 21oz black 634 restockWhy. Why are they like this.
Just got a pair of Freewheelers 1947. This is an absolute home run pair of jeans. The top block feels absolutely perfect for a high rise. Back pockets are positioned fairly high and the yoke has an aggressive angle. Denim is fuzzy soft with the perfect amount of texture and vertical slub threads. The thigh has enough room without it being a full blown baggy fit, and the taper ratio is very balanced. Cherry on top is that I haven’t found any QC issues, all the stitching is CLEAN. If you are wanting a 40s repro, consider getting one of these. Spent around $220 proxying from Japan. Compared to the sugarcane 1947, these have a comparable rise, but the top block fits a little better and they have a tiny bit more taper. The only thing to consider is that if you’re tall, you might be out of luck. These have an inseam of around 32.5”. I’m 6’1” and this is the absolute shortest I would ever wear my inseam. Fingers crossed that the one wash denim doesn’t shrink a ton after another wash >>18348649Just get the 634. I have larger thighs and ass and it fits perfect. The 1955 probably isn’t going to be some magical cut that a lot of people are making it out to be
>>18348658Looking great. I have some Freewheelers 601B but they're a little too big for ne. I'm keeping an eye out for a new pair in a smaller size, but I'm also a-ok with Sugar Cane 1947s.>>18348601Yep. That's unfortunately how it goes for me with really nice denim. Picrel are the STFs btw. Went up 1 in the waist and 2 in the inseam, then did a hot wash + machine dry to shrink them down. The cut reminds me of a hybrid of Sugar Cane's 1944 and 1966 cuts.
>>18348680The Freewheelers take the cake for me because of how nice their back pocket and yoke placement are. Not to say your ass can’t look good in some sugarcanes, but these are just sexo
>>18348658Cool story but you look like a clown.>>18348680Homosexual>>18348693Clown homosexual
>>18348719
>>18348658Look great from that angle.>>18348680That fit fucks hard.>>18348693I'd say your long legs/height do a lot of the heavy lifting there.
>>18348693>Very gay boots. >Cuffed too high. Let the pants break a bit. Otherwise looks good.
>>18348680>>18348693>muh badass jawnz>muh tucked t-shirt>muh badass belt>muh leather boots>muh hardwareYou are the apotheosis of a meme.
>>18348786>implying they have that level of self awarenessKek
>>18348658Based green wearer. Do you have any green jeans or chinos?>>18348680Virgin all black wearer>>18348693Virgin high water wearer
>>18348783>>18348786>>18348798Pretty embarrassing that you’re just responding to yourself
>>18348808Seething faggot cuckold.
>>18348808Am I?
>>18348812>Seething faggot cuckold.Damn dude, sounds like something really pissed you off. It’s all good though, sometimes we all troll by posting on multiple devices
>>18348815Imagine being this much of a pathetic loser when you get BTFO. Don’t you have a man you should be sucking off? Pathetic faggot.
>>18348817>Anons post their jeans >Retard immediately starts thinking about cuckolding and sucking dudes offLmao bro you have to be at least 18 to post here. That is some deeply suppressed homosexuality and inferiority complex you’re projecting to everyone on here
>>18348801>Do you have any green jeans or chinos?I don’t, but I wouldn’t be opposed to a dark forest green or a dark brown pair of corduroys or chinos. I typically like to wear neutral colors and then one piece of green to help the outfit pop a little more. E.g. darker tops and green converse, or black converse/boots and flannel with a green tee underneath
>>18348826Based. I’m also a green/earth tone wearer.
>>18348808>>18348812>>18348814Womp womp womp. I’m the top. But I’m surprised that there are even four individuals in this retarded general.
>>18348819Faggot status: annihilated. Kill yourself cuck.
>>18348786>noooo you're not emulating a trust fund baby west coast tech pioneer faggot like steve jobs or emulating rough and tumble gangster rappers from the 90s/00s who used to wear silk suits and suck each other off at the diddy parties. anon you're just a manchild/whigger/npc. frame/garrison/plate buckle belt, leather boots or oxfords was normal straight white man attire for half the history of pants. only children don't tuck their shirts. you get a pass if you live in a desert, jungle or tropical island.
>>18348864>I’m the topVerse here
>>18348954You got raped.
>>18348601Fucking hell, I feel it. I do have some really nice clothes but my favorites are the items I thrash and neglect. Maybe the true grails are the ones we find along the way?
>>18347746>cufferzoomer detected
>>18345328>>18345333How’s the fit? This is my first denim jacket. I feel like a denim cowboy or some shit.
>>18349114Without the retarded pose
>>18349114I think the fit on those respective pieces are going to be as good as it gets. Despite all the neurotic reactions you’re going to get on this board about “muh workwear faggotry” I actually really like that particular style. Nothing better than a well fitting pair of jeans, boots, and jacket. That said, it’s always better to focus a ton of energy towards your personal fitness so that clothes always look really good on you. Not trying to be mean, just giving some constructive criticism. Definitely focus on losing some of the belly fat and building your shoulder width.
>>18349114jacket is a wee bit tight but its the correct size on you just cut a lil weight. fit on the pants is peak. really good cut on you.
>>18348998>Maybe the true grails are the ones we find along the way?I think is a matter of expectation vs reality. A grail is something you desire for some time and you have to work for it, either by saving, waiting for release or scouring the internet for it. You place high expectations on it and it rarely lives up to them. And even if it does, the "benefit" (substract the expectations from the enjoyment) is meager.However, pieces you get without too much thought but perform pretty well have a higher net "benefit" or satisfaction.Perhaps, as the buddists say, desire is the root of all suffering.
>>18349114>>18349119Looks pretty good to me. I think it goes eell with your 70's hair and glasses, although I'd trim that unruly beard. Maybe lose it but keep the moustache and some substantial sideburns.I think the jacket fits as it should, agreed to lose a bit of weight, enough to reduce midsection bloat at least.For me, denim jackets look best when fitted. If it were up to me, I'd make every denim jacket have gusseted shoulders for that front fitted look without sacrificing mobility.
>>18349223shit troll.>product photosall white tees look the same the difference is hand feel, fabric weight and how many washes they last. you can't judge them from pictures only in person. if you can't keep a tee white for 20 years you're a manchild google laundry bluing and oxyclean.>pricescosts half as much on bears/hinoya/denimio/rakuten+proxy/etcbest brands are $20-40 not the expensive ones.only wonder looper and samurai justify being $100. >$20-40 examplecheck out tezomeya their tees start at $38 and price is based on how fat you are.https://www.tezomeya.com/en/all their tees are naturally dyed using traditional methods and made of organic usa cotton. if you're in japan they even re dye them for free.>scarcity mentalitymcdonalds is hiring if you cant afford a $40 tee. no shame playa. $40's about what getting lunch out once costs if you don't drink and skip the appetizer.
>>1834922330 dollars each for one of the best ones. https://rodeo-japan-pine-avenue.com/products/whitesvill-mens-2-pack-plain-t-shirt-short-sleeve-tee-toyo-enterprises-wv73544-off-whitethey go as low as 25 each when hinoya has them in stock.thats the same price as the mall charges for a 100x better product that isn't made with slave labor and won't get a wavy collar in 2 washes.
>>18349223>blank white t-shirt>10 buckshere's your $10 tee after the washing machine.they look the same brand new but corners are cut to make that $10 price point. they sew the collars on the cheapest way possible and use cheap ribbing. they're meant to look nice on the shelf and then fall apart as fast as possible so you waste more money on a hamster wheel of retardation.>High time preference People with a high time preference are more focused on the present and immediate future, and are willing to sacrifice future benefits to get what they want now.nigger-brain. >Low time preference People with a low time preference are more focused on the future, and are willing to forgo immediate benefits to create a better future.white man.
>>18349256Alright, share with the class then Dr. T Shirt Science.
This is the cotton-lined Red Tornado Detroit, which is the same cut as the late 2024 blanket-lined version, and they're very cropped as you see (this is an L, and I'm 1.83/6'). I'd say it feels as substantial as the new Carhartts I have (all from the last 4 years, both mainline and WIP). Only flaw is a slight asymmetry in cuff buttons placement (off by a few mm), but you wouldn't be able to tell visually without checking the jacket obsessively.
>>18349283>and they're very cropped as you seepleasepleasepleaseplease mr ching chong tornado please make the women's version of the j97 so us short guys can get that sick cropped look as well.my real one got stolen by russian niggers and i hate resellers with a burning passion of rage so i need to win the thrift store lottery.
>>18349240This looks like shit.
>>18349290The picture might even be deceiving, it's very short, and the small goes 3 cm shorter, while the chest loses 10 cm and the sleeves also cm. The chest is already very loose in my case, and I have big lats and chest. I really think this will fit cropped for even shorter people, and I think it's basically unwearable for people over my height.
>>18349292Hahahahaah this can't be real. Did a toddler make this?
>>18349240180cm is $70. Is sizing based on their height?
>>18349274Tell us where to cop your amazing shirts Dr being obtuse on purpose science
>>18349292technical limitation. color matching ribbing with natural dyes is too laborious and time consuming to mass produce so the only way to do it without the tee costing $600 is use face fabric for the collar. even when you have natural fixing agents and dyes its the hardest part of making a tee. >>18349298i think it would work on a lot of short guys but i have to size up for my shoulders which makes the torso an inch longer than the max that works on me. >>18349320its the troll who always posts in random threads claiming to have a savile row tailor who makes clothes for less than the fabric costs then bergs out that people spend money on clothes. its probably just another rugga alter ego.
>>18349274Yes share the company name. Surely someone sells it online>>18349242This is my favorite I own. I recently bought a Vincent t made in Peru with pine cotton. It is very soft but I wouldn’t pay full price for it. Makes me consider buying more made in Peru r shirts
>>18349370You can't even buy the materials for a good tshirt for 5 bucks. Enjoy your translucent tissue paper that lasts 3 washes I guess.
>>18349336Why not fold it in?>>18349317Also why does it cost $70 when you said $40?
>>18349418>has no understanding of how economy works
>>18349240>and price is based on how fat you are.Why isn't everything like this? We need a fat tax pronto, I'm tired of subsidizing.
>>18349240>>18349242>>18349246>>18349336anon literally just said you don’t have to spend 100+ for good white t-shirts, and you shitted on him while also showing websites that sell white t-shirts for realistic prices. what am I missing? is this what internet dementia looks like?
>>18348658The Freewheelers look great and the price isn't bad but I'm really in the market for heavy weight black selvedge.
>>18349474he's trying to say a $10 tee from walmart is the same thing as as japanese loopwheel tees and cherry picking the most expensive possible examples he can find.i pointed out you can buy the exact same tees for much cheaper on different websites.
>>18349317look at the size chart.>Also why does it cost $70 when you said $40?screenshot? its 38 dollars for the largest size on my browser. some of the colors cost more.
>>18349734Fine I take it back. $35 for medium but $62 if you want color
oh hey what a coincidence.all the troll posts and bait in this thread was made by the same ip address. and all the posts were just removed because he took a ban.archive: https://warosu.org/fa/thread/18343652
>>18349370>t-shirt bianca in jersey di cotone elia made in italy >$53.00ok so it costs the same as the japanese brands but its lower quality. what a deal!
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>>18343716Any dumbass tailor can hem your pants. You should have a local one.
