/balding/ and /finasteride/ general.Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting around the hairline or crown is a sign of recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride is a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor that prevents free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, this is called androgenic alopecia.Fin mostly prevents your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, though some people see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ar inhibitors are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg fin can reduce DHT by 68% while 5mg reduces by 72%. 0.5mg dut blocks up to 95% but its more expensive and harder to get prescribed.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. The half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects that persist after ceasing fin are not real and have no basis in reality.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.(continued on next post)
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia alone. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Hair is love, hair is life!Previous: >>18334565
Based OP picking the image with the positive vibes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emhyp4J_sSQqrd / tldw>former U.S. national guard soldier>bodybuilder for 15 years>has everything going in life, educated, successful career, spouse, etc.>no prior mental health issues>starts taking (((finasteride))) and experiences...>brain fog>insomnia>anhedonia>slurred speech>motherfucking SKULL SHRINKAGE>feels zero emotions>lost the ability to sweat>perpetually zoned out>quits finasteride>severe muscle loss>can't get gym pumps anymore>rest of the problems persist for over 2 years and continue to this dayFinasteride basically took everything away from him.And yet there are disgraceful dipshit zoomers here who claim that post finasteride syndrome isn't real, you must feel really proud of yourselves.
>>18345206hair oils. yes or no?saw a video of some guy who reversed his balding (had a really badly thinned scalp in his before pics, and dense hair in the video) by just being on fin and min, but he talked about mixing several hair oils, heating them up a bit and applying it all to the scalp, then wash it off with keto shampoo, and scrub the scalp with salt after
>>18345395cope especially if he's selling it or has referal links
>>18345395fin and min ovbiously do 99% of it, but if you have an inflamed or otherwise unhealthy scalp then oils with vitamins and shit can surely help a bit.
Does masturbating too much accumulate more dht in the scalp? My sheds coinciding with my goon sessions is very sussy.
>>18345434yes, if you want to keep your hair, you can never jack off or have sex again. it is what it is.
>>18345438I figured. I had intense gooning sessions in September (1 hour edging sessions for two weeks straight, some days 2 hour sessions), and then immediately started seeing crazy hair fall by the end of September.Never again. Oh Christ, guide me through these dark times!
>>18345340Why did he even start fin?
Is 2.5 mg dutasteride the ultimate nuclear genocide dosage for blocking dht? Does the dht blocking effect wear off if you continue taking 5ar inhibitors for a long time, or does it stay as long as you are consistent with the dosage? You don't need to increase the dosage to like 5 mg dutasteride after that if the dht blocking wears off, right?
>>18345340mom i posted it again!
>>18345206>start taking fin>clitty becomes smallerHow and why?
>>18345656Probably on steroids and started balding (we cant see his scalp) I guaranteed his hormonal levels were already teetering towards being completely fucked pre fin and of course was not monitoring it medically then introduced finasteride on top of it. That's how we end up with these insane symptoms without bloodwork to back up any of it up. I would suspect estrogen excess (from sky high T levels being converted to E) induced depression which psychologically caused the imaginary physical symptoms.
>>18345434There are no studies about it and no reason to believe it does but even if it did lets say cause a spike in DHT in your scalp it wouldn't cause you to shed the next day or whatever. What's up with people blaming their shit tier genetics on masturbation?
>>18345670We have 2 10 year documented cases of finasteride usage which did not show the medication losing efficacy. You might even see the treatment improve as your T levels decrease naturally into your 40s. If it works in your 20s and 30s it will continue to forever at that point. If anything that dose might be too high if you plan to take it for life.
>>18345698I don't mind sticking to 2.5 mg dutasteride as long as it keeps working until I turn 50.After that I don't give a shit about balding.I just hope it remains efficient at blocking dht for the next ~20 years.Right now I am losing a lot of hair due to diffuse thinning and I think it's because I was on 1 mg finasteride and it probably wasn't strong enough to combat the dht. So I am gradually switching to 2.5 mg dut (from 1 mg fin to 5 mg fin -> then 0.5 mg dut -> now 1 mg dut -> soon 2.5 mg dut). After almost 2 months of 0.5 mg dut usage, I think I am seeing less hairfall in the sides, front and back. The vertex and parietal areas are pretty bad though. I have also fixed my diet and added vitamin supplements since the last month.Or maybe I have an auto immune disease? I read up online about alopecia areata which also comes in the diffused pattern. It said one of the physical examination includes checking for pitting in nails. I do have a lot of ridges on all of my nails and a few pits on some of my fingers. Could it be that I am losing my hair to this?
what up spergsfin 1mg daily gave me soft dick for 6 weeks but that disappeared leaving only a bit of a drop in libido. switching that to 0.5mg daily after a year or so bumped the libido back up to pretty much normal. been on that for the last 3 years and its stopped the loss but ive had no gains. topical minox did fuck all, tried 2.5mg daily orally which made me literally retarded - like struggling to string a sentence together, losing train of thought. It made all my hair everywhere grow much faster, but no actual improvement in hairline. getting off the oral min cured the retardation, but took a good few weeks to feel it lift. anyone else get the minox lobotomy?
>>18345722Shedding is common on DHT blockers and a precursor to regrowth. The thin miniaturized hairs will begin to fall and regrow bigger after each shed cycle. How long were you taking finasteride for because this process can take years to see tangible results? You don't have an autoimmune disease just stick with the treatment
>>18345725Nearly 2.5 years of 1 mg finasteride. Had really good density until I started shedding like crazy couple months ago, so I am slowly moving to 2.5 mg dutasteride. So much of my scalp is visible now, and it looks terrible.I am obviously going to stick with the dht blocking. I just hope to see better results this time, and for all the scalp dht to die out. Hopefully the hair regrows quickly too.I will see a dermatologist to see if I have autoimmune disease. Maybe after waiting for 3-6 months on 2.5 dutasteride (if I still don't see any results by then).
how do you know if this is hair growing back or just hairs that keep falling out before they can get longer? ive been on minox for 7 months
>>18345916only minoxidil? oral or topical? or both?
>>18346133currently oral min 2.5mg a day. I have fin tablets but they are too strong, each one is 5mg and I was told taking that much is overkill and that i need to get 1mg tablets instead
>>18346135You can cut them into quarters, or just take them as is, it's not gonna hurt you, it's just a waste because there's almost no difference in efficacy between 0.5mg and 5mg.
should i buzz my hair?i want to start washing my scalp with ketoconazole regularly, and my hair doesnt style properly right now anywaythen there's also the thing with seeing clumps of hair in the shower drain which puts me in a depressive moodplus it gets difficult applying topical minoxidil
>>18346151ok, i decided to buzzscalp was filled with dandruffthe good news is there arent any bald patches on my scalp at allbut there are patches where the density is clearly lessi hope the density improves on 2.5 mg dut and 2.5 mg min
>>18346135You're supposed to cut those in four. Doctors usually prescribe 5mg pills to help their patients save money. My pharmacist gave me a pill cutter with my prescription so I use that.
>>18345206Are there any negatives of keeping the hair covered throughout the day? I am using a baseball cap to keep my bald vertex covered until I grow some hair there
once you lose the lower anterior it's game over for covering up w fringes. my temples were never projected so i l8st them quick
>>18346325It’s called the temporal peak/point. Without it you’ll have a wide “panoramic” forehead. My midscalp, crown and hair line density are top tier but my temporal points are really thin and feels like they’re always ready to go.
>>18346325didnt he quit fin/dut long ago?
>>18346352yeah that part j6ust recedes further to some in his case itlll probably stay there
>>18346345>>18346432wait wtf, i thought u can only lose hair on the top of your head?since when you can lose hair on the sides?
>>18346616only the temple area
>>18346616Shit is fucked, man. DHT can even fuck up your nape hair.
Should I just shave my head? I’m tall, /fit/, and have a nice beard. I just really don’t want a soft dick and wrecked hormones.
>>18345206>if you can clearly see your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinningIt's over...
>>18345206So, if there are patches on your scalp where the hairs are clearly miniaturized, do they go back to their pre-dht state after the dht on the scalp gets reduced or blocked? Do the follicles stay "dormant" on your scalp (even if the scalp appears bald) if you dont block dht and only start growing hair when the dht is removed?
>>18346804They can regrow to a pre miniaturized state by blocking DHT but it shouldn't be expected for most people to go back to a perfect head of hair and getting regrowth is just the luck of the draw. Follicles stay dormant for a couple years but eventually scar tissue will form over them and they will forever be lost in that area without transplanting hairs
I've been in 1,25mg fin for an year. So far i've yet to notice anything. Beside the initial shedding no regrow but perhaps no further balding. There was some strange nausea and lethargy but it got better in a few weeks
>>18345405>>18345414this guyhttps://youtu.be/obbS8JrVvvY?si=g_wRyPJv5ujzQIt4i am thinking of adding this to my hair care routine, once per week
>>18347055don't bother the more you complicate the angry & jaded ull become stick to basics save the money don't obsess over this try to forget ur takin anyrhin at all
why do baldies or bald guys just not do the cheap and easy route of buying a fucking wig.Seriously why is it always drugs this, implant that. Buy a fucking wig, they look life like these days.
>>18347090taking meds is the cheap and easy option you super retard. generic finasteride costs less than 30 bucks a year. wigs are expensive and difficult to maintain. why are people who dont know shit always the most condident in their braindead opinions.
>>18347092risk of dick not working and mantits/not a big price to pay. Fucking baldies
>>1834710130+ years on the market. trillionaires take it if they know it exists. ur on the wrong side pal.
>>18347103they get implants
>>18347105& they need the meds to keep rest of the hair you uninformed faggot
>>18347106don't lose your hair over it Krillin
>>18347055He's microneedling with minoxidil. Everything else is irrelevant. He will lose those gains by the time he is 30 without a DHT blocker anyway.
>>18347090hair systems are way more costly since they have to be maintained regularly or they wear out (usually starting from $250 per system, that will last a month then start to look odd due to material wear), plus i dont have any interest in having sex, so i dont care about my dick going limp (hasnt happened after nearly 2.5 years of 1 mg fin usage, in fact, i get erect very easily despite being on 0.5 mg dut for 2 months now)then there's also the fact that your natural hair has been permanently ruined and the gnawing thought in your consciousness reminding you of an uncomfortable cap sitting on top of your bald headmost men wouldnt even bother with this bullshit if they started balding near their 50s>>18347105you are just showing everyone how retarded you areor maybe you are secretly a transplant shill (plenty of those on the internet since fin/dut is way more affordable with non-existent % of side effects)even transplant surgeons recommend staying on fin or dut after the procedure since the newly planted hair is still susceptible to dht, which only dht blockers like fin or dut can address
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>it is an actual transplant shilloh no no no, anti-finasteride bros, we got caught...
>>18347156damn what a cancerous thread that was. a good reminder to never talk about using finasteride to anyone else. people choose to be retarded and there's no helping them.
>>18346798Try unharmful things that might or might not work if you're not obssessed about it
>>18347227What does this cryptic statement even mean
>>18347310It roughly translates to>rosemary pumpkin seed strawberry mint mango snake oil and don’t use fin, dut or min because they’re “unhealthy”
>>18347310I mean if you don't care why not try minoxidil? nothing really to lose>>18347326They're unhealthy
>>18347386>Nothing to loseExcept your hair, dumbass. And the fact that you and the anon you replied to are in this thread means you both care.>They're unhealthyThen don’t take them
>>18347400I guess so
how’s the thinning looking
>>18347417looks like lots of small diffuse patches all over the scalpwhat are you on right now and for how long?
>>18347426been on oral fin (1mg) and oral min (2.5mg) for 7 months. Was using both as topicals before that for about a year prior>picrel is a lil grown out
>>18347417>>18347429when were each of these pictures taken?your oral min dosage is good, but did you remove the topical min from your routine?also, i think 1 mg fin is very weaki myself was on 1 mg fin for about 2.5 years and started diffuse shedding like 3 months agoi have switched to dut since then, i also have diffuse patches like youtry to get on 0.5 mg dut if you can, make the switch slowly (very important), also remember dut has a longer half lifei am on topical min (5%), oral min (2.5 mg), oral dut (0.5 mg) (will soon switch this to 2.5 mg), and vitamin supplementsno progress just yet since i only recently switched to dut
>>18347449>these pictures taken?grown out is oct 3, short is today>removed topical min from your routine?yes I stopped all topicals
>>18347456there's definitely improvement thenthe diffuse patches look more tight compared to the noticeable ones in your grown out pic
>>18345206I keep asking this and nobody ever replies:Topicals like Saw Palmetto: combined with fin (I am not retarded and do not think they can save my hair without fin) will they move the needle? I'm thinking maybe they reduce my scalp DHT another 5-10% which could make a difference but maybe I'm just coping.Can't use min because of heart problems.
>>18347489this guy here >>18347055 is also using a blend of various oils along with min and fin, but it's unclear whether those oils have the same strength as min and fin at reducing scalp dht and increasing hair densityultimately, it's really upto you, as long as you are blocking scalp dht and stay consistentnatural oils like coconut oil are dht blockers too, so it wont hurt if you apply that once per weeki am thinking of adding coconut, castor, olive, rosemary, and argan oils to my hair care routine; just mix them up, heat the mixture a little and apply it for at least an hour, then wash it off with ketoconazoleseems excessive, so i havent completely made up my mind yet, but it might be good for the hair
what's the truth on creatine and balding? does it even matter if you're on meds?
>>18345206My dermatologist prescribed me a topical solution with clobetasol propionate (0.05%) and salicylic acid (6%). Is this better than topical finasteride?
>>18347575Creatine is fucking useless,why even risk it?
>>18347663No, it will basically do nothing for your hairloss
>>18347668Why do you say so? I've always heard good things about it>>18347575I asked my dermatologist and he said it doesn't affect balding, I am inclined to trust him because what I was prescribed seems be working well so far. (0.5mg dut, 2.5mg min capsules, topical min and an anti-dandruff shampoo with ketoconazole for my seborrheic dermatitis) I'm planning to start taking creatine soon
>>18347575there is no conclusive evidence rhat it leads to increased hair loss. but the studies i have seen were short and had tiny groups. but it is linked to increased serum dht and you dont need it to get gains anyway so why risk it? just chug protein and lift, nogger.
>>18347509No oils are going to block any significant amount of DHT if any. You are wasting valuable hair preservation time and you do clearly care about that enough to create these weird serums to try.
>>18347575There were a handful of studies that vaguely implied that it might slightly increase serum DHT levels but it was a weak correlation and even if it wasn't it failed to establish a causative relationship.Creatine isn't going to move the needle on your balding.
Reminder that if you shill finasteride for free then you are a cuck because it creates more competition for you.
>>18345206Woah... a dick pic
>>18348495but dont you ever get tired of pulling others down and backstabbing them?
>>18348495Beta male logic.I want all of my brothers to be uplifted. I know many of them want the same for me. We're all in this together.
>>18348495How? It's not a rare resource so others taking it doesn't harm me.
Anyone got gyno from fin?
>>18348495extremely jewish post>>18348734>>18348791>>18348797based bros
Is 2.5 mg dutasteride too much? I am on 1 mg dutasteride right now, and I think I have seen some reduction in hair fall ever since I switched to 0.5 mg of dutasteride (about 1 and a half months of use) from my previous 1 mg finasteride dosage.1 mg of finasteride was just not doing it and led me to diffuse thinning heavily, despite being on it for nearly 2.5 years.Right now, I think my body is not able to handle 1 mg dutasteride because I feel like throwing up sometimes, or maybe it's because I also added milk and bananas to my diet after a long time (like 10 years since I last drank milk after I picked up caffeine).I just want better results and I know 2.5 mg is great for nuking all the dht on scalp.
>>18349066https://youtu.be/rCXByxgBrn4watch his vids on dut choom
just wear a hat. No one will know
>>18348986>>18348797>>18348791>>18348734Cuckold hands wrote these posts. No male animal in nature wants more competition when trying to find a mate. Porn has damaged your brains.
>>18349322literally female behavior, only women and women adjacent men try to drag each other down for no reason
this is my hairline and i turn 35 in 2 weeksis it time to start the pills bros?
>>18349526>lots of small new miniaturized hairsit was time at least 5 years ago
>>18349526Should’ve started a long time ago. Only using fin or dut at a young age at the first sign of balding is much better than having to use fin+min while hoping and praying for some regrowth or density.
>>18349526you will at least have good hair for the next 10-20 years at this state.you obviously only have age related balding, not the aggressive one where you lose nearly everything at early 20's.people who suggest fin/min for everyone are just faggots.
https://www.reddit.com/user/Soggy_Spray5140/for anybody who wants to laugh at some mental illness
>>18349681this is just sad
>>18349681Low iq narcissist desperate for attention
>>18349526sure might as well try them
>>18349656nobody in my family is really bald, but i've noticed it's slightly worse than it was in my 20s now. so i've gotten concerned about it. i'm not quite sure what to do to maintain it at this level, i don't really have much of a desire to start meds if it's not going to be effective considering it's just my age catching up to me, or if i should just see if it gets any worse by 40 and then get a transplant. or just try out the herbal stuff like rosemary oil stuff?
>>18349834NtaJust because no one in your family has gone completely bald doesn’t mean there’s no male pattern baldness in the family. From your pic, it’s clear you have some hairline recession and miniaturisation. It’s all a gamble, since some people can carry the balding gene but have their baldness progress very slowly over decades—and in those cases it’s not noticeable to most people unless they compare old vs new pics—while in most cases it can only take a couple of years and you’re done.If you’re looking to maintain then Finasteride is what you should be looking into, since it doesn’t really regrow hair for everyone. Do your own research and weigh in the risks. Even better, see a dermatologist.
>>18349834>>18349862there is no way he keeps that much hair till age 35 and then randomly starts to lose everything in a couple months or years.i personally wouldnt bother with medication with that hairline, women dont even know that its recessed a bit.
isn't this diffuse thinning
>>18349877You can easily lose everything in a couple years in your 30s. He even says his balding has progressed since his 20s, which means it could have just started recently which is why he noticed it and caught it early. It may or may not be aggressive but the outcome will be shaving it off by before 40 either way.
>>18349882No it's a camera flash on a buzzcut. If that spot was visible with longer hair then you would be concerned
OP is trying to sell you on finasteride. Problem is, it can ruin your life. 1 pill can destroy your entire life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aVJbZRfzTQ&ab_channel=MoralMedicine
>>18349890well, i got into an argument with someone else online about going bald in 2016, and i found this pic saved in my files. so basically a decade ago, this was my hairline when i was in my mid 20s. looking at it from then to now, it's basically the same, so maybe i'm just being neurotic.however, i guess it couldn't hurt to get on something to keep what i have, so it doesn't get worse...>>18349834i think going to a derm next year will be in the plans, i need to get some moles removed again anyways so i'll ask him when i'm there what my options are.
>>18349893
>>18349877>there is no way he keeps that much hair till age 35 and then randomly starts to lose everything in a couple months or years.You’d be surprised.>>18349903It’s not that bad, but it is slowly progressing, and your temples are definitely not the same.If you do the same pose and really push back your temples you’ll notice very minor temple recession.>what my options areHow many options do you think you have? Because there aren’t many. You either hop on fin, then min if needed, or just leave it and pray for the best.
>>18349935That’s what a buzzcut looks like. The guy is obviously on finasteride since he’s an actor, but before finasteride even became a thing he had an immaculate hairline very well into his late 30s.
>>18349935It's a movie set with intense lighting. Look at the same spot when his hair is longer
>>18345206>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/Indian dermatologist science
>>18349895Seems that it got even worse for him. Crazy what 1 pill can do. Nobody should be messing with their DHT, ever.
>>18349940>>18349890my father has diffused thinned hair since his 40's or so and it never progressed till his 60's. its a bit more now, but desu its really whatever at that age.this 'frozen' stage of balding does actually exist.
>>18349946finasteride became a thing in the early 90s. brad wasnt even 30 yet.
>>18350358his mom has extre mely thicj hair & his dad is like nw3. his broyther also didnt go bald
>>18350280If you care about your hair then it doesn't matter if it exists or not. Assume your balding wont stop or or risk losing even more hair
>>18346199> cut those in four> save moneyAlternatively, get a prescription for 1mg and go to costplusdrugs.com to pay $7.50 for a 3 months supply.
>>18350358I don’t think he hopped on it that early on when it first came out. Probably started taking it in his late 30s or early 40s when his temples started thinning a bit. Peak hair genetics in any case, with or without fin.
>>18350507Yeah stuff becomes much cheaper when you get it via gray market, some men would get put off by that though, it's the same process you go through to score steroids or hrt.
>>18350543It's not gray market, it's mark cuban's "let's fuck with pharmacy managers" startup. 100% legit (and generic.)
>>18350547I don't think prescriptions were meant to be sold over the internet unconditionally so long as you have $25 for the consultation fee, it's no different to skipping the prescription altogether and ordering from india.The prescription method is just for peace of mind that you're not buying fakes.
>>18350666Right sure, but again, this is not that. You need to get your own prescription from a real doctor first, then you can use that website as a super cheap place to fill the prescription.
>>18350671Does it work with telemedicine sites?
>>18350683I imagine that depends on what your telemedicine site is selling you.I use Amazon's OneMedical, and I've gone to see my tele-PCP in person a couple of times. He's the one that prescribed fin for me (remotely), and he apparently just had to send the prescription to that site like any other pharmacy out there.Then I went to the site, created an account, they saw they had a prescription under my name, and I could just check out and get it shipped.So I'd say, just ask your virtual doctor and see if they can do it. It beats the hell out of things like GoodRX by a large margin.
We have to start shunning people who discriminate against balds
Does anyone here have Alopecia? I have a terrible friar's patch and have for a few years and Rogaine hasn't dont a damn thing to it. I'm on medication for my autoimmune disorder as well but it hasn't affected my hair at all
>>18350728I heard they literally found a cure for it this or last yearlike, an immediate curecheck it out
>>18350752I'll look into it but if it's another immune-supressant then I don't think I can switch to it.
>>18350757https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2024/06/researchers-reverse-hair-loss-caused-by-alopecia-areata-autoimmune/
>>18350766Interesting, I'll ask my dermatologist about it
>>18350683Many of the services are already partnered with their own pharmacy and basically only prescribe to you so that you continue to buy drugs from them. You are better off setting up an actual appointment with a doctor either in person or over the phone so that you can avoid potential hassles down the road when you try to transfer your script
>>18350728maybe become a friar
>2 months into stack>Hair already looking a lot better We're all gonna make it bros
>>18350507>supporting jew "cuban"
Anyone here care about their beards? I started dut+oral min at 24, I’m 27 now and my beard is somewhat decent but it doesn’t look very good and it doesn’t seem to be improving with age. It sucks because I have really good beard genetics on both sides of the family. Is this one of sacrifices one must make to maintain scalp hair, or is it possible for my beard to get better if I use topical min on my face?
>>18351254dht encourages facial hair growth. when you cut dht out of your system with dutasteride your beard will suffer. min can help but it might not be enough.
i have a lot of smaller thin hairs all over my head.is this regrowth from fin or is not working and im just thinning more?they are thin and much smaller than my regular hair.how can i know its regrowth or not?and if its regrowth, will they become thick?
My nipples are hurting
>>18351339Check your prolactin and estradiol
>>18351346Would taking the same dosage every other day or 3 days work? I don't have much pain right now but i'm scared of the gyno getting worse it already developed btw while taking 0.25 of fin everyday for a year
How much of initial shedding is to be expected, if any?
>>18350588my fin costs 8.95
>>18351305Take photos then wait a few months and compare to where you are then. Fin can't make your hair worse.>>18351386From fin/dut? About a 50/50 chance. Sheds can be absolutely brutal but is nothing to worry about and you can just temporarily shave your head if you want to avoid the phase altogether
>>18351386shedding is just hair at the end of it's hair cycle that was gonna fall out already, only difference is it would grow back weaker if you weren't blocking dht.
>>18351254My beard has only gotten stronger after being on fin+oral min for year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpZqyCQDNQ8This doctor with over 40 years of experience treating hair loss is using Spiro on male clients without feminizing effects.Score -1 for the retarded faggot tranny OP.
>>18351501bro if you wanna get on hrt it's fine, nobody is gonna shit on you it's 2025
Give it to me straight guys, the only substance I can get my hands on is topical dutasteride, will that do anything?
>>18351502>without feminizing effectsEnjoying your L?
>>18351513check the inactive ingredients, if it's just alcohol and propylene glycol, you can take a few drops via the oral route
>>18351501No they're using finasteride and minoxidil as their frontline treatment and switching to dutasteride if it's not effective enough. The guy on the right even says he has been seeing Spiro trials at 25mg without feminizing effects but does not speak about the actual results on hair (which would be nearly nothing). They haven't even used it on a patient themselves. Did you watch the video?
>>18351564U mad because Spiro actually works unlike fin and dut. Guaranteed to restore your hairline and density.
>>18351568No one says it doesn't work. At the proper dosage it does help hair but comes with nearly guaranteed physical side effects. Using a low dose to avoid side effects won't yield anything close to that pic.
>>18351580Saved my hair, dunno what you're talking about. Dutasteride did nothing.
>>18351568>Guaranteed to restore your hairlineIs that why the faggot in your pic is hiding his hairline with a fringe?
>>18351582post tits
>>18351592>>18351601>m-muh hrt!Have fun maintaining those head pubes with dut when you could be rocking a mighty mane but you're too scared of spiro, lmfao retards
>>18351469But i read there is some shedding to be expected first
>>18351610>head pubesProjecting much, negro?
>>18351610Wrong. Fully recovered with 1 year of 1mg/day fin. Not even minoxidil.
>>18351670As of today
>>18351568so it turns you into a little curly haired faggot zoomer
>>18345916Asking again since I didn’t get an clear answer. Is there a way to tell if this is new growth or old hairs falling out before they grow out?
>>18349877man and here I lost like 60% of my fucking hair within 2 years
I'm 28 right now how can I maintain my current hair till 40
>>18351946fin and min now
Have been struggling with hair loss for the past few years, I think, most likely due to extreme weight loss a few years back. I haven't quite recovered, but my hair has been pretty consistently frozen at this point since it reached its worst about a year or so ago.Has anyone here had experience with hair loss triggered by extreme weight loss? I do not have a family history of early male baldness; I'm < 25 years old. Both maternal and paternal grandparents have full hair, same for my father.Also, anyone have good results from derma-rolling + min?
>>18352008Losing more hair when cutting than bulking is normalResults are very slow to see in all cases but i think dermarolling itself slowed or even stopped receding, but then i switched to fin because it's easier and more reliable
>>18351939what age are you?
>>18351932No one would be able to tell without a before picture, but you should just go ahead and cut your fin tablets into quarters and start taking them. Min gains are temporary without blocking dht.
How much hair do you lose doing to 60 second comb test? I would lose ~15 before starting finasteride. I still lose around 15 now
Thoughts on homemade topical fin? I can't tolerate the pills but i still have nice results with them
>>18352723What do you mean can't tolerate?
does it look like im balding at 21? my maternal grandfather has a full head of hair at 82, but my dad started balding in his 40sidk if i should start minoxidil or just relax. i have 800 total test, but that doesn't necessarily mean ill be balding i hope
>>18352893I grow tits that's what i mean i really don't care about the other sides at this point lol, i'm starting to think maybe i should become my own chemist and make my topical dut and fin instead of being a psuedo trans anyone has experiences with this? My country doesn't have those available unfortunately.
>2 months on fin+min>extremely light colored baby hairs (hard to even see without a camera) are forming on my hairline where i used to have hairi want to believe...
>>18352974gimme that hopium lads
>>18352912minox i s worthless if u didnt stop balding fin or dont bother
>>18353037I’m sorry, anon.
>>18353042it cant be over
>>18352912Zero signs of balding. If you were to do something about it as a preemptive measure it would be fin. You don’t need minoxidil.
>>18353047fuck it, ill just do the chad embrace when i get older>>18353041so what is minoxidil for then? i thought it was a preventative measure
>>18353087min stimulates growth, you use it if you want to grow hair faster and stronger, your hairline looks dense already, maybe min could fill in your temples and bring your hairline down but you might be satisfied already.Fin is the preventative one.
>>18345206If hairline tattoos became normalized like women wearing shape wear and push up bras, would you get one? the hair's primary function is to give your skull some shape instead of being some blank dome which is what makes balding so unattractive and a hairline tattoo would achieve the same thing. Pic related is an extreme example but try to look past all the degenerate shit on his skin and try to see how his tattoo makes him look better than being all bald.
>>18353099>if [permanent disfigurement] becomes normalized like [women's undergarment]...what?
>>18353099meds
>>18353099It would look even worse WITHOUT the other tattoos signaling him as insane. Hairline tattoos have been a viable option for a while now although its nothing like your pic. Look up SMP
>>18353037Notoriously difficult to restore a hairline non surgically. Best case scenario you might go back half a norwood or so but thats better than progressing.
2025 is the year of Spironolactone
>>18353191kys groomer
>>18353205It's going to be the only legit option left after the EU and RFK Jr. get rid of fin and dut.
>>18350766this is really greatjust in case my diffuse thinning turns out to be from alopecia areata, i will immediately get on this treatment>>18351150congrats!i have just hopped on 2.5 mg dut (previously 2.5 years of 1 mg fin, 1.5 months of 0.5 mg dut, 15 days of 1 mg dut)i think i saw noticeable reduction in hairfall after switching to duti think i will see impressive results since i only started shedding since the past three monthsit's also important to not get stressed out about hair loss>>18351386weirdly enough, i did not experience any shedding when i started fin about 2.5 years agoi immediately started noticing reduced hair fall, so i stopped paying any attention to this hair loss problem, until three months ago when i started diffuse thinningthen i switched to dut
>>18353208i honestly can't wait for the EMA to state that there is no causal link that can be proven between fin/dut and suicide, just like the FDA didgonna troll some pfs boys into suicide
>>18353235They cause trannification which in turn makes people 41% themselves
>tfw finasteride has not helped me at all.
is this the new /ftl/ thread?
hair havers are coddled nontent
>>18349322>porn has damaged your brainSays the guy projecting his cuck fetish onto every potential social interactionYou’re weird nigga
>>18349526I honestly think you’re fine, you have better hair than most white guys your age
>>18353365Yeah same, I was on fin and min for a bit over 2 years and never saw any improvement at all. Still think about trying dut and microneedling
I've been on fin for 13 months now. Checked my photos from January 1st 2024 and I have less density now than I did back then. I mostly lost density on the sides of my head. It's like fin is doing nothing. It's so over bros.
>>18353191Before you reply, remember this is who you’re replying to
>>18353461>>18353365only 30% gett regrowt according to the italian 10 yr study best u can hope for is maintain that why u get ob it at the slighest recessiontopical minox only works for 60% of people
>>18353556whats the point of fin then?you have fucked up hairline and you just keep it like that, so you are still registered as a balding dude by everyone. lol?desu, i would just buzzcut that shit off if i was balding. what a fag shit to take some homo-pill everyday till you die.
>>18353563you can get a transplant. blame yourself for being uninformed about hair loss though can't really blame you with how much bullshit is spewed.
>>18353563Maintaining up to a nw4 is better than being bald with a shaved head. Most people on the street won't even clock you as balding until nw3+ at least. This is strictly hairlines though, bald spots are another thing entirely.
>>18353574Kutcher did fringes w his bordering NW3 and it worked as long as the thickness is there
>>18353577
>>18353577Exactly. Plenty of baldcels would literally kill for that "fucked up" hairline.
So I went on a pretty extreme diet to lose some weight and it went great but about 3 months into the diet my hair got noticeably worse like really REALLY fucking bad in a short time frame with diffuse thinning so I panicked and stopped the diet even though I quite enjoyed doing it and was getting good resultsI've been on fin and min for about 2 months now and want to restart my diet planI know permanent hairloss is 99% genetics and the cycle of hairloss when they start miniaturising etc. I think the hairloss is just standard AGA balding but it got fast forwarded by a bit because of a heavy """stress""" induced shedI was just wondering if you guys think the fin and min would have built up enough by now that it should help me avoid some permanent hairloss that would be brought about by a "stress induced" hair shedTL:DR if I take fin and loose hair from stress am I mostly protected from permanent hairloss?
>>18353574My hairline is basically left photo except I don't have professional stylists or photographers to make it look good.Does he look like he's coping in the left pic or is he genuinely rocking the receding hairline?
Give it to me straight guys: are bald spots just game over?I am NWIII Vertex, my bald spot is definitely noticeable. I can cover it with a combover and keep the sides short to make it looks like less cope and from the front and even some side angles I look okay but realistically am I just lying to myself?On fin + microneedling, min did not work for me.
>>18353740Deadzones are pretty much usually gg over tier without a transplant unfortunately especially if you've already tried fin/min + microneedlingOnly thing to really up your stack is to go to DUT and maybe oral min if you've not done so already
>>18353577Where to cop shirts like that?
>>18353037You might be able to restore the top part and go back to a norwood 2 ish i did it but i lost all those gains when i quit fin for 3 months or so
>>18353574How old was he on the left pic?
been on fin for one year since yesterday and i still have no clue if its doing anything
>>18353763Moonlighting years, so between 40 and 44.
>>18353736It looks fine. Many people would call that a mature hairline despite being a nw3. Density is the only thing that matters. The shorter you go the more of a cope it appears interestingly enough. Picrel is the same hairline at different lengths
>>18353740$3000 transplant will fix that. You don't even need a good one since no hairline needs to be recreated.
>>18354058Why does he look so bad on the right even though he has the same hairline in both pictures? Is it just the skin tone, shaved head, and clean shaven?
>>18354064Shaving it down makes the density appear much less. He went from receeding hairline to balding/bald.
Is 1mg of fin daily too much?
>>18354077No, it's the recommended dose.
Does this sound like balding? The back of my head has always grown EXTREMELY slow compared to the rest of my hair. I used to have a gray patch there when I was a kid due to how stressful life was growing up and I'm wondering if I'm balding.I'm only 18. I really don't want to be fucked the moment I go out into the real world.
>>18354386Post a picture of it under direct light like in the bathroom mirror. No one can diagnose you without pictures
>>18354058Could left hairstyle work on a man in his 20s?He looks good for his age on the left, not doubt, but I feel like the hairline inherently ages me.
>>18353910The same. No regrow nor shedding. No limp dick either
>>18354537Zoomer broccoli comeover is the best
I upped my dose of fin to 0.05 and now all my body hair is dropping out
>>18354077The effect tops out at around 0.8mg daily. If you can tolerate 1mg well then I'd stay on it out of convenience. Pill splitting is for managing side effects or cutting costs. If I was a stingy fucker I'd prolly go to 0.75mg a day.
>>18354610Consider yourself lucky, I once licked a finasteride tablet and my dick fell off immediately.
>>18354537Being bald in your 20s is worse than practically any hairstyle so yes.
Is there anything even more effective than 2.5 mg dut + 2.5 mg min + 5% min? This is what I am on since the start of this year.
>>18354872Besides adding micro needling no it's the ultimate stack
>>18354882Alright, I will also microneedle once per week. Wish me luck bros
>>18354872Is there any benefit to adding topical min if you’re already taking oral min?
>>18354904Good luck, friend.
>>18354872>>18354882Spironolactone blows all this shit out of the water. Throw all that stuff in the bin and get on Spiro.
>>18354923It allows you to up your dosage without going into potentially harmful territory from strictly oral
>>18354960So is it overkill if I’m already taking 10mg?
>>18355008Idk depends if you get further results by upping past that
>>18354652I'm not joking though. If I rub my leg I lose 10+ hairs easy. I was taking 0.025 before and had no noticeable body hair loss. It's literally feminization. Worth it I suppose
>>18355139Nta>10+ hairs easilyThat’s really nothing. I shed 10+ eyelash every day. It’s normal to shed body hair, and normally you only notice losing it if the hair was already thin to begin with, kinda like when someone with very thin/fine scalp hair goes through a seasonal shed and thinks he lost half of it. I’m hairy as fuck and I’m on dut, and I would’ve welcomed that side effect but it never really happened. Only thing dut did is that my body hair grows at a slower rate now and I could go for 2 weeks after trimming instead of 1.>I'm not joking thoughYou can't be taken seriously is what the anon you’re replying to meant
>>18354872ru58841 >>18354947kill yourself groomer.
>>18354923I have heard oral and topical min both work differently
>>18354947if you're gonna commit to actual force fem drugs you might as well add progesterone for luscious soft skin and hair
>>18354610Orally?
>>18355213Doesn't fin increase your prog and estrogen it's femininizing
>>18355407stop spreading lies. finasteride doesnt have anything to do with progesterone levels, and it only "increases" estrogen levels by giving you more testosterone, which your body may naturally aromatise into estrogen. by the same logic anabolic steroids are feminising because they also increase one's E levels. kill yourself already.
>>18355552>one of its most common sides is that it makes men grow tits>4chandditors will argue that this isn't feminizingWelp, it seems that your brain has been fully fried, sorry about that.
Would you be willing to sacrifice your beard for a full head of hair?
>>18355719You’re a retard. Taking testosterone shots can make you grow tits.
>>18355721Roid faggots are the biggest wimp bitches that this planet has ever seen though, why you would ever associate them with masculinity is beyond me.
>>18355726I’m not associating bodybuilders with masculinity you fucking retard. Your argument is that fin makes you grow tits, so the conclusion is that it’s feminising. Testosterone replacement therapy can also make you grow tits. So by the same logic retarded logic, synthetic testosterone is feminising? Fucking retard.
>>18355737Yeah no man who lives naturally in nature needs any synthetic bullshit drug, it is for faggots like you and your daddy who chugged fluoridated water full of microplastics their whole lives and can't get their dick up after 40 because of it.
>>18355738Seethe and cope, slaphead faggot.
>>18355739If staying in denial is what helps you get out of bed every day then so be it.
>>18355745Keep seething, baldie. You can’t get the fact that you’re already bald out of your head. All that talk about feminisation is you coping because you can’t do anything about it.
>>18355755Lmao my hair is fine nigger I just saw your retarded post while scrolling through the index and decided to school you. Reminder that if you ever procreate, your children will likely end up looking like the pic you just posted. Good luck with your tranny drugs and testosterone shots.
>>18355760>m-m-my hair is fineOh, I’m sure. You can go ahead and show us your fine head of hair.>i just schooled youWhatever helps you sleep at night, bald retard.
>>18355765I'll do that right after you post a vid of your lactating bitch tits that finasteride and T-injections have given you.
>>18355769>n-n-no u>m-m-my hair is fine please believe meSure thing, faggot.
>>18355552It does increase progestrone
>>18355720Without a single thought
>>18355774Did you start taking T because fin gave you a limp dick, is that how it went?
>>18355776progesterone metabolizes to testosterone though
>>18355781I don’t even take testosterone lmaoStay mad, slaphead
>>18355794Nice lie.
>>18355801Nice hair
How the FUCK am I supposed to cope with thisI'm 27 next month ffs
>>18355811does anyone read the OP at all?
>>18355811I was bald at age 21 so stop the self pity and do something about it, you still got enough to save.
>>18355817You're right, why even have a thread or forums at all if I can just read boiler plate information
>>18355822True. I'm lucky enough to not be balding at the crown. I guess I'm crowd sourcing what kind of hairstyle could go well with my particular hairline. I'm close to buzzing it all.
>>18355817Also>ingesting the chemical Jew
>>18355787I think finasteride is synthesized from it but it's not an ideal drug,>>18355781Not sure what's wrong with him i take it but i'm not emotionally defending it yes it gave me gyno and limp dick i know it's mildly feminzing but it's my only choice at this point.
>>18355811Your hair still looks great btw
how do guys after transplants even go to work when their heads are all red
>>18355825then ask something that actually needs answering from a 3rd party. Like what's the best way to get prescribed X in X country, or what dosages to take. These people would know exactly what they can do about it if they read the OP instead they act clueless and want the OP rephrased for them.
>>18355850I'd prolly take time off for at least 2-3 weeks.
>>18355811either get on fin / dut or then get used to shaving your head, pretending being bald is cool and grow a cope bwatd and post it on reddit.
>>18355406topical
am I balding or is it just my hair pattern?I noticed I have a thin area since like 17-18 but it hasn't really gotten worse I thinkdo note my head is itchier than normal I think so is my head scratching just thinning it out over time?
>>18355738Anally rekt that anon
>>18356356clearly balding dude
>>18356381
>>18356356Not only are you balding you have the most aggressive and unsightly variant, the dreaded diffuse thinning. Start treatment asap if you want to salvage it, otherwise might as well shave it sooner rather than later.
>>18356389since it's always slightly irritated it's probably hair folical miniaturization right?
>>18356356Get someone to diagnose you
I've tried fin 1mg a day for a few days now, I was super scared of side effects but I feel good and energetic, no "brain fog" or problems down in the pants either.The only thing is, I think my cock smells different. (It isn't a sudden change in hygiene habits, no)Has anyone experienced something similar? Is it just hormonal?I saw earlier a reddit post where a dudes liver enzymes had gone up badly because of fin, and he had dark and stinky pee. (enzyme rise is officially listed as a rare side effect) Mine is healthy colour and not strongly smelling, but there certainly is some distinct odor.If this continues I think I'll get some lab test in a few weeks
How can I find out what causes my hairloss?Last few years were pretty stressful and honestly I keep getting stressed out about things nowadays as well.How do I know if my thinning is the result of the constant stress or if it's just MPB?I'm 31 so MPB is an option as well, just don't know how to find out.
>>18356642Is it thinning all over in a specific pattern? Is your hairline receding? Are your temples thinning? Do you have whisker hair above your ears, near your temples or in the nape area?Also, stress related hair loss can speed up male pattern baldness.
>>18356642ever watched house? its never lupus and its always male pattern baldness.
>>18356719It looks like diffuse thinning. It only seems to affect the top of my head. Hairline is not really receding and the temples are intact, I don’t have the Vegeta thing going on.>Also, stress related hair loss can speed up male pattern baldness.Let’s say it is stress related but I stop stressing for good. Will my hair regrow? Or can my existing hair be thicker eventually?
>>18356744lol, no I haven't.
>>18356642odds are 99 to 1 its male pattern baldness. stress can cause hairloss sure but your body would be all kinds of fucked up in other ways too, most likely. visit a dermatologist if you must really know for sure.
>>18356764> but your body would be all kinds of fucked up in other ways tooIt kinda is. I've been having weird stomach pain for a while now. Not saying I don't have MPB, just saying. Yeah. dermatologist would be the way to go. Thanks Anon.
>>18356424Yes. You are feeling your follicles die in real time. Many people report similar sensations during balding
>>18356768>>18356765>the guy spamming this schizo shit is 5'7Manletism is a grim disease
>>18356849I don't care how tall he is, it's really shitting up the board and making it bad all around.
>>18356592It seems weirdly fast, but yes, some folks report having a less offensive body odor on fin.If you miss smelling like a goat, some folks report success bringing their stink back with zinc supplements and broccoli.
>>18355851the general is called /balding/ you and whoever the faggot that created the sticky was, made it about your hopeless investment in these useless tranny pills, and evidently this onlyIf this is your true belief, gb2 >>>/fit/ it's a fashion board, I'm asking for advice to an audience that is generally assumed to answer ambiguous or comedically open questions with regards to the subject of said board, i.e. style and fashion autistic mope
>>18345206thoughts on Bruce Willis' haircut in Fifth Element? What about Hudson Hawk?
>>18357242
>>18357214you're right, this needs to be renamed the anti-balding general, if you want a cope thread, make your own or go to >>>/fit/ if you want a PFS scaremongering general
>>18357214Sounds like you already have your answer then and are just here to continue shitting up these threads. Just move on already its really stale
>>18356356Diffuse thinning brah it's what I've got Get on fin and min RIGHT FUCKING NOW or just embrace it and take the baldy pill
>>18356592That's just the intial boost in T it doesn't last
My maternal grandfather looked like he was balding a bit at 40 (NW2-3) but then instead his hair turned grey and then white.My paternal grandfather was already bald at my age but my dad still has all his hair. Is it safe to say I got either my dads or my maternal grandpas hair genetics?
>>18357277>>18357331Utterly compromised by the pharma merchant and beyond savingApologies for the reality check, autistic freaks
>>18357242Sorry this thread is only about drugs that magically make your hair grow back, go make your own thread if you want opinions about style, on a fashion board
>>18345206>Indian Dermatol OnlineI would love to trust science but then all studies are made by Xi or Kumar.
Best micro needle device? Can I just get a cheaper one off AliExpress?
>>18353094Haven't been on /fa/ in over a decade. What is the consensus here about topical fin and topical min?
>>18357539get a dermastamp or a pen. rollers wreck you
>>18357429Nah my grandparents both had NW2-3 into their old age with good density. I'm around NW2.5 too but also started diffusely thinning around age 24. I could make molehills on my desk with all the hair I was shedding but didn't learn about finasteride until I was 30.
how much is "lots" of small hairs on your hairline, some amount is normal right
I love it when anti-fin retards go bald. Using oils and vitamins as cope when you have MPB is hilarious. I used to be open about my fin use, but now I don’t even bother. When someone tells me how nice my hair is I tell them how much I’m blessed with great genetics and enjoy their envy.
>>18357650it doesnt matter what you tell them. actually if u do theyll instantly starrt crabbing you back to the bucket. tragic.
>>18357671How do you even bucket crab a man with a full head of hair?Attack their manhood?
>>18357437These threads are dedicated to treating hairloss. Your perception of reality is skewed if you expect to not find medications being suggested here. It has literally nothing to do with autism or pharma shilling, its about saving your hair in the most efficient way possible. Just make your own thread dedicated to herbal remedies and we can coexist without issue.
>>18357587Yes they are called vellus hairs or baby hairs not to be confused with miniaturized hairs when someone begins to bald.
>>18357587No amount is normal, unless you're going through fin sheds, that's DHT miniaturized hair.
>>18357764>>18357765>reply on same second with opposite informationmatrix is trolling me
>>18357347>tfw no health insuranceI'll just get min and the shampoo for now
>>18357775It's hard to know what you are describing without actually seeing it. If the "small" hairs you are seeing are the same as the other "small" hairs on your other parts of your body then they are probably vellus hairs, usually transparent or blonde. If the hairs you are seeing are equivalent in texture and color to the full sized hairs on your head then they are miniaturized and you are balding
This might be the right place to ask.Is there any (non-harmful) way to INDUCE balding? I'm 34, and while my dad was pretty much on the way to being mostly bald by the time he was my age my hairline is still staying strong. But I kind of want to be balding - at least have the thing where the top's bald but the sides are still going.I've been tempted to see if I can get T subscribed anyway, think I might have a shortage, but I've heard excess testosterone can cause baldness so would that be a good way to go?>inb4 just shave itThat feels too tryhard and also keeping it bald would be too much maintenance.
Been on dut for over a year now and had no further loss and some regrowth.Went from NW3 to NW2ish. Planning to go for a transplant this year. Any recs? Budget would be something like 10k max.
>>18357760Nah, it's funny how much you're tunnelled into your own skewed reality. If that's the point of the general, then my OP was valid, since I'm asking for advice re. my hair loss. Instead I get bombarded by future tranny mongoloids telling me to "read le stickee!!!!", when it shouldn't be unexpected to seek advice for styling a hairline recession with a post obviously seeking that, on a fucking fashion board, not a health and fitness, or medical advice board. I forget to be patient and painfully obvious with ASD children.If I'm wrong, and all these shitty threads are for is to simply be redirected to the sticky with little else to be discussed according to you and your desperately coping qball circlejerkers, then you can go fuck yourself to death and stuff your asshole with those placebo pills while you're at it.
summer 2023 I took a zinc and magnesium supplement because I felt down. Also I was bored.I never had a strong beard, and after a few days taking this supplement I noticed many beard hair growing where there were none before. Also the new beard hair were black while the rest of the beard is mostly blonde.Anyway, after that I began losing hair. I suspect the supplementation somehow increased my DHT production permanently.Yeah I now there is ZERO science behind my observation and maybe my genes just decided to increase DHT production at that same time I took the supplements but let's say I'm correct, what do you think I could use to counteract this?After all if I increased production permanently maybe I can lower it permanently too? What do you think?I already know about finasteride/dutasteride/minoxidil, I've watched lots of hair cafe videos but at the moment I cannot afford healthcare (long story) and I can't even afford bloodwork, so I have to act like a shaman.
>>18357936You've been trolling these threads for months though. Now you want to try and pick fights instead of shilling natural supplements and spiro. If someone recommended you finasteride you would have gone onto a tranny pill tirade like usual, there is no winning. Clearly severely mentally ill and you are in no position to call someone autistic lol.
>>18357942Nothing will help you besides those 3 medications, minoxidil to a way lesser extent. You don't need healthcare, it's like $60 to get a perscription and your first 3 months of meds from a telehealth company like keeps or hims.
>>18357957I'm not in the United States and the situation is dire where I live.Also >Nothing will help you besides those 3 medicationsI agree 100% but seeing how it started I wonder if there is a way to end it.What I forgot to say is that I was 35 when the hair loss started. I mean, why would I get new beard hair at 35 and just days after taking supplements and then experience accelerated hair loss for the first time?It's why I'm looking at more rare options. I can't be sure the hair loss started because of the supplement but it feels possible.
>>18357960There are equivalent services in most countries just google it and find one. Worst case you can simply order generic finasteride from an indian pharmacy no script required. There is most likely no correlation between what you were taking and increased DHT production, probably just bad timing for your genetics to fuck you over.
>>18357439>fags slap fighting about fin and minkill yourselves
>>18357936the solution is simpleyou can try fin/dut/min and try to grow your hair backyou can try other meme solutions and by chance grow your hair backor you can do neither and go baldit's not that complicated, really
>>18357960just get an online prescription, if you don't live in a third world shithole then getting fin is easy as fuck and in most places min is an otc drug
>>18357976>>18357961oh my fucking god, I've already told you it can't be done and I also wanted to discuss my specific situation otherwise I've already watched all haircafe videos
>>18357996nobody cares fag. get the drugs or shut the fuck up.
>>18357898Just roid up, you'll lose your hair quick
>>18358001if nobody cares then I'd expect no replies, not the replies of people that didn't read what I'm asking
>>18357960Supplements most likely didn't induce the hairloss. Probably just got unlucky with the timing. Can't think of a way to "fix" it either, maybe chelation lol
>>18358013not that anon but honestly I couldn't read into your post beyond "I'm going bald", I'm allergic to useless yappin, so no wonder all you're getting is>go on fin+min or go bald
>>18357956I'm literally nobody and you're paranoid, these aren't the only meds you should be talking All I wanted advice on my hair on what cut would suit it to make the recession less obvious, instead I've been shilled by loony ASD pharma-employee scumYou're literally no better than BPD whores who romanticize SSRI useIf you're so hopeful about the advertised results of your drugs, the countdown to your suicide has begun>>18357974In none of my pointless replies to you lizard brained chimps have I ever mentioned a solution, because there isn't one, except implants or wigsUsing these is analogous to using SSRIs for curing depression You can go cry alone now because nobody is capable of loving you and guess why, because it's not your hairConsider the time I've given you charity
>>18358001Holy shit you are such a humongous faggot, jfc dudeCongratulations on populating a general with the most doughbrained people on this entire site, a lesson in not abusing unregulated experimental pharmaceuticals Can't wait until these threads die along with you next year
>>18345206Why I never see PRP (platelet-rich plasma) therapy being discussed on 4chins? Apparently, it's quite common in Europe and I've heard a good feedback about it. Thinking to try it with some topical solution for my NW3. I rock bold look for 6 years now, but sounds like this procedure has no sides, so why not to try it?
>>18358042It's stimulatory treatment that doesn't tackle the root cause of hair loss. It's also expensive and there's no clear evidence whether the PRP itself is boosting hair growth or if it's because of increased blood flow from the needle penetrating the scalp.
I've been on fin for two years now, I've been considering starting applying min only along the temples and hairline. I'm not afraid that it won't do anything, I'm afraid that if it does nothing and I end up stopping, that the hairline will get even worse as a result, regardless on if I was on fin or not. Is it worth trying and is that a possibility? Besides that one fear, I do not give a huckleberry fuck about "sides", I couldn't care less if my dick shrivels up and falls off.
>>18358118I don’t think you should. Your temples look like dead zones so there’s really no point in using minoxidil.
>>18358029>All I wanted advice on my hair on what cut would suit it to make the recession less obviousNo you actually didn't.>In none of my pointless replies to you lizard brained chimps have I ever mentioned a solutionNot with your current persona. You have tried shilling rosemary oil, caffeine and other supplements in plenty of previous threads. You are the most anti-fin person the entire internet and every attempt you make is laced with the same anti-fin sentiment at the core. It's obvious, you just won't quit.
>>18358029>You can go cry alone now because nobody is capable of loving you and guess why, because it's not your hairmy loving wife is sleeping next to me while I'm shitposting on company time lolskill issue + git gud champ
>>18357996No you said you don't have healthcare, none of the methods people have said involve insurance or whatever your problem is. Are you expecting an anon to discover the cure to baldness in this thread for you? If you can't get meds you are fucked, simple as. Shave it now and move on.
Why does it seem like a massive amount of 4chan space is taken up by discussion of balding but almost no one actually pulls the trigger and gets an implant?
>>18358315Maybe because at one point, I had a script to open every 4chan thread that mentioned balding so I could talk about fin and min, now it has snowballed into a self-sustaining thing where simply being made aware of it is enough.Plus zoomers are the most narcissistic generation so they are being made acutely aware that their hair is thinning.Fin alone is enough of a trigger to pull, the anti-fin lobby is very real and very serious, I was once afraid of fin sides and I hate that I didn't start sooner.
>>18358033Nah you are the retard dude. Supplements are in no way responsible for the toilet seat forming on your head so nobdy here can offer you a solution for that problem or your specific situation.
>>18358029Lower your tone if pic rel is your chrome dome.
>>18358118ur temples are quite projected as is what ur lacking is more hair in the front
>>18358182>>18358442I'm not the guy you think you're replying toYou're not even aware you've made multiple enemies in the thread with your unhinged autistic behaviour You need a nanny, bruv>>18358284Yeah, if you call a 300lbs blob a "wife" Also>marriage Megacope
>>18358319>literal unpaid shillHe does it for free, folks
>>18358151like i said, risking money and effort to have no results is no problem for me, it's that I don't want to make it worse >>18358477sure, I mean applying it more so in the corners to attempt to bring the hairline forward
>>18358524You risk making it worse and there’s no net benefit, since your corners are dead zones. At best, the miniaturized hair on your forelock might get a bit thicker, but that’s about as far as minoxidil would do for you
>>18358118replies to this are kinda reaffirming what i felt about my own temples. Fin may restore and protect some of my hairs' thickness, but i'll probably still have to get surgery to fill in my receding temples.
>>18358493ok baldie
>>18358548>qball desperately clinging to delusions with tranny pills calling others baldieCan't make this shit upI love 4chan's retard concourse
>>18358600Whatever you say, slaphead.
>>18358531>>18358539in that case I may as well ask, how about a transplant in my case? any idea/estimate about how many grafts I'd need?
>>18358494Nigga LIVES are being saved. I would bet multiple people decided to not kill themselves because of information found in these threads. Is someone paying you to troll these threads? Didnt think so
Amazon one medical online consults are currently $15, how does renewing a fin prescription work through them?They're asking to see pictures of my hairline and crown but my obvious hair loss went away so I'm afraid they're gonna deny it.
>>18358737I did a video consult with my usual one medical dude. I pointed the webcam at my scalp and he went "I see. alright", and then he told me about mark cuban's pharmacy and how fin was stupid cheap on there. And also to get minox foam 5% OTC.That was to get fin started.If it's a renewal, there's going to be an assumption that whoever prescribed it first had a reason for doing so, and they're not going to make you stop just because it's been effective.(I did mention dutasteride too, but they really weren't into off-label uses, so fin it was.)tl;dr: don't worry.
>>18358737>>18358771this? no strings attached and you can get a prescription?
>>18358818Yeah pretty much, use any pharmacy you want.Just answer the questions and don't let the form think you have hair loss caused by a skin condition and take pictures of your hairline and crown.
>>18358826would itching fall into a skin condition?
>>18358829Yes, just don't mention skin conditions other than slow hair loss or you'll have to start over, stuff like hair falling out rapidly or in gobs is indicative of a hormonal problem.
>>18358831when they ask if I want their fin should I just say no and just tell the doctor if I could get it somewhere else then?
>>18358717based
>>18358834At the end it asks you if you wanna use Amazon pharmacy or your own, you could probably write it at the final comments on the intake form.
>>18358818oh idk, I'm on their subscription, $15/month for me and my wife, and then regular insurance copay whenever I see the doc in person or through zoom.
>>18358717Might have saved your life since you'd have nothing else to do all day than to shill your shitty hormone wrecking drugs aside from your anime and vocaloid addiction. Glad you've found your true pathetic purpose in life, cuck. Keep making the billion dollar pharma industry richer.
>>18358880How many times do I need to tell you this is solely about saving your hair? It doesn't matter who profits or what your opinion on the pharmaceutical industry is. This is how you don't go bald, take your crusade elsewhere. It's free for you to create an anti-pharmaceutical thread and post your findings in there where they are actually relevant to the topic we are discussing.
>>18358903>/balding/ general>but you are ONLY ALLOWED to discuss taking fin/dut/min or I will throw an autistic tantrum and tell you to fuck off!!!!!!!Imagine being a weaponized shill for mega corporations that never even wrote you a check
>>18358912Then by all means share your proven treatments or fuck off
>>18358917Well there's Spironolactone which reverses your hairline back to a juvenile state even with low dose treatments.There's no need to grow tits on finasteride or make your heart explode with minoxidil or risk killing your dog (a few drops of min can kill a fully grown dog or cat).
>>18358928You do realize that makes you a pharma shill too, right?
>>18358930At least it works and doesn't give you PFS
>>18358932explain how a drug that blocks testosterone outright and makes you piss 5 times a day is going to have fewer side effects than one that blocks one derivative byproduct of testosterone from being made.
>>18358932The main method of action for spiro is literally the conversion of test into estradiol which is how you induce gyno. You are essentially guaranteed to get breast growth if you continue taking it lol.
Reminder that at least 107 people took their own lives because of the struggles caused by finasteride and dutasteride (documented cases).May God give these mislead souls the peace that they deserve.Amen.
>>18358935The male suicide rate 18-35 has basically doubled over the last 20 years, it's a statistical guarantee that more men suicided over losing their hair than suffering from PFS.
>>18358928kill yourself.
>>18351568>>18358928When I look at the vast body of before/after pictures for this stuff, I'm slightly annoyed, no, downright miffed that somehow none of them have an apple to apple comparison.In all of them, the latter picture has much more longer hair and hides the hairline, destroying any hope of assessing the effectiveness of the intervention when compared to just waiting a while for hair to grow.Do better.Be better.
Brothers, when the EU and FDA finally ban dut and fin in March for causing mental illness, erectile dysfunction and titty discharge, remember that there's an alternative option. A better option.Spirolactone has a 60+ year long proven track record and good safety profile. It ain't going nowhere.Choose better.Choose Spironolactone.
>>18359028Don't forget your estradiol and progesterone.
>>18359053Remember to milk your titties when you wake up so your nipples don't start leaking while you're in your wage cage that'd be embarrassing.
How much is fun/dut/min and how long do I need to be on it to grow and maintain hairOh yeah>thousands >who knows, genetics>foreverTruly based troon tekIf this is the only thing keeping you from suicide, by all means, though you might want to reconsider your life priorities
I swear, in every /general/ I frequent, there's always one mentally ill individual who keeps spouting the worst possible takes over and over, probably relishing the negative attention he collects.
>>18359075>online consult and prescription: $15-30>1 year of fin shipped: $50-80>3 years worth of topical min (oral): $25Bro that's not even $80 in a year to have hair, I'm sure you spend more on skin and hair products.
>>18359089>>1 year of fin shipped: $50-80That's what a three months supply costs in my country. Fml.
>>18359093If you go the gray market Indian pharmacy route you could probably get years of 5mg pills shipped to you for the cost of a 3 month supply, no prescription needed, I don't think finasteride is a scheduled drug in any country so you should be safe.
>>18359105Tried that, customs took it and threatened to prosecute me, I had to tell them I hadn't ordered the package lol
>>18359109What country is this?
>>18359113Sweden
>>18359114Don't you have good socialized healthcare in the EU?
>>18359126Yeah but fin 1 mg falls under cosmetic treatment so it's not socialized. 5 mg cost only 1/8th as much (socialized price) but they're very hard to get. I've spoken to 2 doctors and they both refused to prescribe them for me.
>>18359093>>18359114>>18359129lol bögjag bor i finland och det kostar 30 euro så jag kan ha 100 x 5mg finasteride
>>18359134också jag kan enkelt fråga den läkare och han ska säg "ok bro fin eller dut"
>>18359134Kostar omkring 15 euro här men det krävs recept...>>18359136Om du säger att du har huvudvärk så ger han dig säkert en dunk men 5 liter hembränt
>>18358912what did you think this was, a coping circle for guys who are living their first year as a cueball? do you go to /fit/ looking for fat acceptance threads, too? LOL
>>18358941this. i would rather die than go bald, so i would have one foot in the grave if not for the prospect of fin, min, and surgery.
>finally accept that I'm balding>head's more itchier than usual>if I run my hand through my hair while I shower I get like 5 strands outOH GOD OH FUCK OH GOD
>keto came in>waiting on my min>fin comes in tomorrowthis is what it feels like to wrestle with Godgoing to war with my own genetics cast upon thousands of years of ancestorswith the combined force of the science and medicine industry who've evolved their cures for an equal amount of yearsshould I even bother with the other two if I have fin? It's rather costly to get it prescribed via amazon if I do it every 3 months and the prescription is going to be a permanent debuff on my wallet
My libido and dick are still fucked 18 months after quitting finasteride. I really regret taking this tranny med.
Let’s assume you’ve taken the bald pill. That’s your life, you are done coping and sneed and want to make the best of the situation. How do you looks max your situation? Is it as simple as tan+/fit/?
Amazon one medical is pretty nice, within 4 hours, cost plus already had my prescription ready to go.Does fin expire?Maybe I should hoard a few years worth with active prescriptions at different pharmacies.
>>18359270How long did you take for? Did you try to power through?
>>18359282I took it for 5 years. With the help of daily cialis I can still jerk off and fuck but it's not quite the same. Most days I don't get morning wood. My flacid penis has shrunk as well. I've seen slow improvement since quitting and I have hope that things will continue to get better.
>>18359289So you had side effects and just ignored them or it snuck up on you
>>18359271Get on the fucking drugs or shut the fuck up, god damn.As has been said multiple times before, go to reddit or create your own thread if you want advice for "rocking the bald look".
>>18359300Or what faggot you gonna cry? I didn’t ask what whiney 4chan bitch had to say about anything so shut the fuck up.
>>18359300NTA but wanting to rock the balding look is a perfectly acceptable thing to do in the balding general of the fashion board. It's on-topic and directly relevant to the thread.If it really bothers you, pretend he's a total nonresponder to treatment.
>>18359300>balding general>someone talks about the bald look>”HURRR GO TO REDDIT”how about you go to Reddit big guy you seem on edge
>>18359271I'm in the same boat. You already won the first battle (be born with aesthetic skull shape).From there, skincare plus /fit/, basically. Don't be a beta who grows a massive beard to compensate. You honestly look fine in the photo you posted. I personally keep my facial hair trimmed shorter but it's up to you.
>>18359271>>18359304 (Me)Also, at least from the front, your pattern lets you get away with slacking a little bit on keeping it shaved. My bald patch is immediately noticeable if I don't shave it every other day and my hairline makes me look like I have a tumor. You look good with a buzzcut. If you have a decent jaw, consider facial hair that emphasizes it more.
>>18359294The first 3 years of taking the drug I only noticed a small reduction in libido, and I assumed the side effects would go away after quitting the drug, so I thought it was a price worth paying for keeping my hair. Around the 3 year mark I noticed my nipples were puffy and I felt a tingling in one of my nipples, which freaked me out. I did some research online and realised it had to be the finasteride and I experimented with lowering the dose and taking short breaks from the drug over years 4 and 5 but the sides persisted and I had a few encounters with women where I couldn't perform which was really bad. I finally quit after I got a new girlfriend and I wanted to make sure the sex life was good. Later on I watched a bunch of videos about PFS and realised that I have this condition, although mine is a mild case compared to some people. As for my hairline, it's pretty much the same as when I started the drug.
>>18359305>>18359304Thanks man. I get the feeling everyone thinks their own skull shape is weird so I appreciate the input.
>>18359246keto is useless jut min is very nice. if you really want to be cheap you can buy a tiny syringe and fucking drink that topical minoxidil.... 0.1ml per day has 5mg and it means one bottle lasts 600 days.
>>18359271>how do you looksmax with a bald headwhat kind of retard question is this. you cant style a bald head, its over. all you can do is cope with and facial hair .
>>18359078You just know he's been up to some shit when you check the thread and see over 50 new posts. I find it so funny to read desu, we should thank him for keeping the thread alive.
>>18359075Fin and dut are dirt cheap as fuck, you retarded monkey kek. Min depends on the brand you buy.Makes me wonder what kinda shithole you're living in.
>>18359271Looks like the average flyovercuck working his spine into dust at a construction site with a net worth of maybe 30k lmao.
Pre fin norwood gods were something else, man.
I hate this, friends.
>>18359629sega is getting so cheap with their plushies
>>18359629Spiro can fix this
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