The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.If kofe time posts, just ignore him. He's off his meds and can't control himself.Keep that shit in /wt/.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious:>>18352420
>>>18355164I feel like being obsessed with value just kills the fun. yeah I can get some chink made spec monster, but I’d rather spend my money on a watch that makes me happy and not worry about the “value”. at the end of the day it’s a piece of jewelry and you can’t spell jewelry without jew
>>18355167You can't spell legacy without Gacy or dynasty without nasty.
>>18355169Good point, I’ll be sure to let that inform my next watch purchase
>>18355169You can't spell Breguet without guet.
Took my AD out to lunch today. He's promised to think about putting me on the waiting list for picrel if I take him out again.
A couple of days old photo.
Id like a new work watch. Im a big fan of the dive watch style and a pepsi bezel would be a plus. A crown at like 4/5 oclock would be nice as well, i tend to wear my watch on the inside of my wrist. Readability in low light conditions and a fat second hand are a must, everything else really is a secondary concern though.Ive been looking at the citizen promaster and seiko srpe99/sne591. Im open to pretty much any brand. I basically havent heard or anything that isnt sold at kohls. I know its outside my budget and has like none of the features i want but i also like this odyssey from bouldr. Never heard of them before i like their field medic watch as well
>>18355248You forgot to actually mention your budget
>>18355249Oh fuck my bad. I thought i included it in what im looking for. Id like to stay around $500 at the top end. If its a bit over and i really like it id go up to like $550.
>>18355251The SNE is definitely a solid choice. You could take a look at the Seiko 5 Sport range, most of those have the crown at 4.
>>18355241Wrong thread, friend. Nice watch though.Here you go. >>18353590
>>18355248That Citizen is a good choice. They are durable and reliable. The thickness might bug you a little, though, if you wear your watch on the inside of your wrist.
>>18355258Yeah a diver on the inside seems like a bad idea. You would want a dress watch or field watch if you need something durible. In fact a boderry or bertucci field watch would be titanium, have the offset crown, and be small enough.
>>18355255>>18355258>>18355275A dive watch might be overkill in reality. Im just tired of cheap watches breaking on me and figure dive watches are sterotypically tough as hell. The bezel is fun to mess with tooIl look into field watchs. A thin watch does sound pretty nice. Maybe the thickness is causing more issues for me than the crown location. I wanted an offset because ive got the crown caught on things and ripped off the cheap watches i usually wear.
>>18355281Look up the titanium boderryhttps://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805892583019.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.3ab3647fPk6rUZ&browser_id=1cd2fd8506034b56a9db2e9d79b6f815&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=nyljhzucaurnsbll1942f78f24814db80d981a7a38&gclid=&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%22144%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21129.00%2182.78%21%21%21129.00%2182.78%21%402101c59117359632430593868efed7%2112000035633646795%21sea%21US%216235954743%21X&algo_pvid=1c16a87f-e67e-4870-a505-637cb4699c83
I'm really struggling to find that right combination of specifications and was wondering what people here know. Budget: Poorfag basically $500 or lessMovement: Actually prefer a quartz but am open to othersCase Size: Ideally 36mm to 39mm, I have a bitch wrist of 6.25inchesCase Material: Stainless SteelWater Resistant to at least 10bar and a Sapphire crystal. I'm not asking for much but it seems like I can't find anything durable, accurate, and not xbox fuck hueg and gaudy as hell.Essentially, a Rolex Explorer 1 is what would likely be ideal but I'm looking for the budget version.
>>18355293Close enough, baltany had a couple other quartz one too
>>18355293Seiko SUR557 ticks all of your boxes for less than 400 bucks.https://www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/discovermore/sur557
>>18355298Forgor linkhttps://a.aliexpress.com/_mrK8pIb
hell yeah
>>18355293I'm not sure how much they go for, but check out some of the Seiko Astron models. Or get a vintage penis quartz.
>>18355300Stop posting these Chinese shitters
>>18355303I don't buy them I only buy seiko but you guys don't care about heritage so I'll recommend shitters
>>18355298>>18355299Thanks for the recommendations. Never knew about Baltany and I basically wrote off Seiko since I thought everything they had in my price range used hardlex. I've got a seiko srpg27 on my wrist now with a fucking annoying scratch in the middle of the crystal and I don't abuse it.
>>18355302>vintage penis quartz.I'm not a fa/ggot denizen so what do you mean?
>>18355307I realized after that you asked for sapphire, so disregard this, but the sizing and probably the style sounds like what you're asking for. This one is from the late 70s and still going strong. Yes there's a penis on the dial.
>>18355281https://www.citizenwatch.com/us/en/product/AR3120-08L.htmlI just remembered this, 4.7mm thin with a tiny crown. jej
>>18355312Seiko can't quite seem to nail the little flourishs. The one on my seiko looks like the superman symbol to me.
>>18355304>chinese shittersYou mean "luxury" western brands and micro shitters?
>>18355316the Suwa factory logo. yeah my old watch also has one.
>>18355312I have a penis quartz digital/analog but the fucker dies in like a month every battery change. It didn't use to do that
>>18355305Baltany is the best ali watch brand imo.
>>18355330Probably San shartin but I'm speaking as an observer that hasn't tried any of them
>>18355336San Martin has the highest quality but baltany has by far the best designs and is still great quality.
>>18355340Also their logo is actually good unlike most other chinese brands. Sugess and baltany have the best ones. San Martin has one of the worst right up there with addiesdive. But sugess almost exclusively does seagull chronos.
>>18355342San martins logo looks like it belongs on a brand of longboards sold at zumiez not a fucking watch
>>18355301Looks like a shitty alpinist knockoff
>>18355196Is that a hublot?
>>18355162KOFE TIME
>>18355281shiiter pooping out an egg
https://youtube.com/shorts/ATqqGc3oCyI?si=BC9sQWRHdzpVnvrW
*ahem*
>>18355436i miss paul, this guys a fag
What's your opinion on the new Reverso?>inb4 too expensiveYeah I know and I don't care.
>>18355489how do you dress?
>>18355503>answering a question with another questionnigger
>>18355489If you like non-round watches, there aren't many options out there that are better. While most people consider it a dress watch, it actually does dress down and works casually.The new smaller size is great, but I'm not the biggest fan of the dials they chose.
>>18355301Mort has one of these, the madman put it on a green Omega NATO strap, it looks great.
Choose your fighter
>>18355553They both suck
>>18355577YeahOn the left too big and too thick, don't be right it's too thick and slablike
>>18355553ToopoorFuck gay sexko
For me, and many other enlightened individuals, perfection is The Citizen Chronomaster.It is here to remind you just how much value and finesse you can get with your money. To the laymen it is completely invisible and non existent. “Citizen? Yeah, you can buy that at the mall.” No, not this one. This one is locked behind its country of origin, a JDM only model. See, Japan is not sending its best when they fill the shelves on your mall, the best, they keep for themselves. To even know this anomaly exists you’d have to be one of the most accomplished watch enthusiasts on the planet.Simply put, this timepiece exists to show what they are all about. It is one of the most accurate stand-alone watches in the world (the more accurate being another Citizen), it has a thermally compensated, fully jeweled high precision, high accuracy, shock resistant, hand position correcting quartz movement fully sealed in 100m water resistant case. It is powered by a solar cel that will keep this timepiece going for at least 15 years without the need to open up the case. To top it off the movement has a perpetual calendar which makes this watch one of the few true JDM GADA grails.All this cutting edge horological technology is encased in a duratect coated stainless steel case paired with a double anti-reflective coated sapphire crystal and a oyster style (the longest lasting) bracelet.As a final blow to any other watch on the planet this piece comes with a world class zaratsu style finishing, putting ALL other timepieces in its price category to shame. It even is JIS-1 anti-magnetic resistant.It truly is the best watch ever made, and it can be had for under 2000 €. You may not like it, but this is what peak true horology looks like.
>>18355489I love the Reverso and would like to have one but it's about twice as expensive as it should be tee bee haytch
>>18355553I don't really like either, but if I was forced to pick, it would be the Tudor. It's better looking. Plus, Tudor's reputation for service far exceeds Seiko's slapdash reputation. (Grand Seikos are serviced in the same facilities as Seiko 5's and by the same technicians.)
Do you guys send your shitters for maintenance? If yes, how often?I've had my Seiko for about 5 years now.It loses around 10 sec everyday. Can the accuracy of the movement be improved?
>>18355549I hate to admit it, but I'm envious of like half of his collection.Would kill for his Journe or AP.
>>18355610Find a watchmaker in your area. He'll be able to service and clean your watch. No need to send it in to Seiko.
>>18355489There has not been a single good looking square watch ever
>>18355619Do you believe it's fundamentally impossible to have a rectangular watch be good looking?
>>18355553>Tudortoo thick>GSDon't like the dial, don't like the finishing, bad intregration of the braceletI dislike both, but what really makes the Tudor win to me is that the spring-drive can only serviced by Seiko.
>>18355619I like these
>>18355665And these
>>18355553Chewdah has a very cheap looking date window, and I hate the GS Spring Drive power reserve indicators. Save your money for a GMT Master
New ugly tgv islander shitter just dropped
>>18355685What's cheap about the date window? No boomerpilled cyclops? Datejusts don't have a bordered date window either.
>>18355693The two of them put out a video a couple weeks ago on it. The most surprising thing was how few people recognized the obvious ripoff of the Linde-Werdelin case design.
>>18355693Both have zero style, it's terrible.TGV seems to have a good heart, but shit tastes.
>thinner than average wristsGuess I can't partake in this hobby.
>>18355705You absolutely can. I have flat fuck 6 inch wrists and 34-38mm watches fit perfectly fine.
>>18355707>flyer gmts from a non microbrand in 38mm or smaller sizesNonexistentYou must suffer
>>18355705Just get 36mm Rolex or even a 34mm if you're one of those wristlet dicklet.
>>18355708A Black Bay 58 GMT is 39mm, but considering the bezel it looks smaller. You have to take into account the effective dial size, not just the official size. Great video about that:https://youtu.be/opTzuHfF02c?si=chgGJBkpXL3ZPyT3
>>18355708I don't like GMTs so it's not a problem for me.
>>18355695I don't mind that it doesn't have a cyclops, but it also has no surround, no frame, nothing that makes it look like it was intentional. It appears as though they finalized the design with no date window, and when they were told they had to include one, they put no thought into it and just put the little beveled edge around it. It's much worse on the black face.
>>18355729Neither does a Datejust, though.
>>18355732But a Datejust does have a cyclops, so a border would look weird. It has to have something, cyclops or border, and they chose neither
>>18355736A nice clean bevel is fine. Tudor did it simply, but well. If you want to see what a truly unfinished date aperture looks like, check out Panerai. Just a straight cut into the dial, and the date wheel is well below the level of the dial; and since the movement is not appropriately sized to the case, the date is in the wrong place, too far inboard. Sounds like you mostly just want to nitpick, though, which is fine. I understand.
>>18355708What’s wrong with micro brands The traska venturer GMT is nice, affordable, and 38.5mm for a “true” gmt
The CW 36mm GMT is also a good choice but it’s a caller gmt I think
>>18355786You just don't copy a design, get a Sellita inside and, slap on your own logo on it and call it a brand.You might as well just buy a Pagani design.There's only a few micro brands that are worth it and that will become real brands because they have their own designs and vision, Baltic (already made it), Brew, Dumoreau, Nivada (but it's more a zombie brand), Vulcain...
>>18355786>What’s wrong with micro brandsIt's what you're paying for.Microbrands obviously cannot make any of their own products, so they outsource movements, cases, dials, bracelets, everything. In practice, nearly all of these suppliers are Chinese except for the "Swiss Made" movements, whose own suppliers are Chinese.In and of itself, this isn't a problem until you realize that the same suppliers also put together identical watches on AliExpress for a fraction of what the microbrand does.Worse still, microbrands are tiny companies that usually have no more than five or six employees. These companies rarely last that long. If you buy a microbrand watch and the thing needs replacement parts, like a new crown, you're hosed. You can see if your local watchmaker can make a generic part fit.
>>18355796Agreed>>18355786Traska logo is San shartin tier.>>18355792Caller gmt also bad logoLogo autism is badLorier isn't bad and it's smaller but the elements seem like a mismatch that don't work. Omega hands, Rolex bezel, Tudor gilt pick one faggot
>>18355553If you're getting a tudor gmt I think it has to be the 39mm one. It's so much thinner and less slab sided. The new gmt pelagos would be fine too if it didn't have fixed lugs.
>>18355796If you want a watch that looks like a Rolex no shit you should get a Rolex, but there are plenty of microbrands out there that are trying to do their own thing
>>18355697More like Linde-WHO???
>>18355796How is Nivada a zombie brand but not Vulcaine?
>>18355819Vulcaine shouldn't really even be a microbrand.
>>18355812It they do their own designs it's great (Baltic, Studio Underdog...).But mix-matching different elements of famous brands like Lorier does here >>18355802 is just trash. NKIE sneakers are probably as good as Nike sneakers, it's the same materials. And it's not really a copy you see, it's swash instead of a swoosh.
>>18355819I didn't say Vulcain was not.Both are zombie, it's the same guy behind both brands.
A good way to know if it's a real brand is to remove the logo.If you remove the logo and can still guess what brand it is, then it's a real brand with a real identity/design.
>>18355830I could do that for microbrands, 100%
>>18355826If your brand made a watch famously worn by world leaders it probably isn't a microbrand.
>>18355843It's a zombie brand, it was dead for decades then revived by a guy specialized in microbrands.
>>18355842>I could do that for microbrands, 100%ok, guess
Guess the microshit brand.Reverse google not allowed.
>>18355861nta but this must be that modern field watches with fancy dials brand, what is it... Zelos, right?
>>18355853That's a pagani. Looks good
>>18355865Wrong, that's actually a real Speedy
>>18355861What's the point of turning some numbers right way up but not others?
>>18355863>Zelos, right?Not a Zelos but almost.
>>18355866Yeah a real pagani speedy and I like it
>>18355830Vostok passes this metric
>>18355861who cares didn't ask faggot lmfao kys
>>18355549Is there a photo?
Guess those
>>18355877different microshit brand
When I wear my IWC Spitfire, women don't even give me the time of day. So I'm changing my look. The new me will be proud, unapologetically flashy, someone who demands the best. I'm thinking a gold Royal Oak rep from China.
>>18355880>rep from China
>>18355881As if anyone will know
>>18355878Traska>>18355877Seiko Part of this though is that there’s just not that many ways to make a simple watch without it looking similar to something that already exists
>>18355885correct for the Trashka, the other was picrel
>>18355883Losers KNOW they're losers.
>>18355869The other ones, the one with the suspension case? What is it, Formex?
>>18355876There is, search some archive (idk which one has /fa in it) for "My IWC.jpg"
>>18355897It's a Phoibos
Phoibos was a bad example tho, because they make cool shit
>>18355345Could be worse
>>18355902This matches my beyblades
any final thots on sinn 105
>>18355881>same reaction image since 2015go get your prostate checked oldfag also poorfaggot since you're still here just dreaming of watches lmao
>>18355913yeah nah nigga too much conflicting shit the that horrible day date, ugly as sin hands and markers and that poorfag shitter bezelkys
>>18355916yeah well i think it looks neat. a little weird but why would anyone get something basic?
>>18355913Looks youthful and clean
>>18355923Consider just getting a seestern doxa. It's $112 right now and has an nh35a with sapphire crystal
>>18355248I really enjoy my Promaster that I was awarded at work. Not a fan of the strap, switched to an Island bracelet and it’s excellent. Also did the cram strap into a cup and pour boiling water in it method and curved them well to where I think it would be much more comfortable. Weigh it down with spoons or something though they could shoot out. Lastly I am already getting minor scratches in the glass but doubt it’ll ever get horrible since it is below the bezel.
>>18355956no thanks
>>18355861Zelos style contrast of bezel with wave dial sind eit obviously isn't omega
>>18355914He's too scared to post his breitling after last time.
>>18355972Your loss ;^)
>>18355853Brands obviously cloning real watches for people to cope with don't count.
>>18355996What was it?
>>18355880FUCK I want a spitfire. you mean women don't care about iwc?
>>18355996lmfao that brapling was complete dogshit
>>18356005Why would I not want a disposable speedmaster though? I can wear it to egypt and not give a shit about breaking it, getting robbed, or losing it. I can just get another one or two of them whenever for $60
>he boughted a Chinese watch
>>18356033It's a timex that actually looks good, what's the issue?
>>18355993it's not a Zelos
>>18356036>Timex>looks goodholy COPE
>>18356038>Timex is a disposable watch that ticks loud and has shitty finishing and looks>Chink watch is a disposable watch with a seiko in it that actually has good finishing and looksWhat's the issue? Chink watches should be compared to their price bracket not the watch they stole their looks from. And at that it's a complete no brainer.
>>18356007Some beat up thing. I'm sure Loretadello in /wt/ has the exact model number.
I've been posting my Chink rep sub for months and no one has questioned it.
>>18355876There, my friend.
>>18356048There's a difference between no one questioning it and no one actually calling you out.Even if they know you're wearing a fake, no one wants to cause you the embarassment of calling you out.Moreover, the guy who calls out another guy for wearing a fake is also considered an asshole.
I just tell people I don't wear my Rolex because it makes me a target for the unhoused
>>18356066>he doesn't move to a country with strict law enforcement so he can wear his rolex every day
>>18356076Or just walk around with a couple guns
Just finished servicing this. I liked the dial so much that I had the case re-plated. It's a bit strange since it has 17 jewels but it uses a pin-pallet escapement instead of a typical jeweled swiss lever.I love the dial layout and the indices.
>>18356030That wasn't the topic , though. We were talking about recognizing watch designs. Obviously if 12 chinese brands made in the same 3 factories are producing identical copies of the same Swiss wwtch it's going to be too hard to differentiate them from a picture with the logo removed. But you can distinguish an islander from the seikos they borrowed parts from because they don't make direct copies, they have a design language and certain pet features they've adopted.
>>18356101How did you learn to self service? I've been getting into the hobby over the past 2 years or so, should I just buy a bunch of chink movements to practice on and read books?
>>18356105Internet mostly. Plenty of videos on how to service watches, particularly the stuff from Chronoglide and Alex from watch repair tutorials. I do have a couple books but some of the content in those are dated compared to modern materials and tools. You could get a few ST36 or NH35 movements off of aliexpress to practice on, since a whole new movement is basically the cost of any individual component off of ebay for any vintage caliber. I just jumped into running ebay shitters, but I don't think I'd recommend that simply because finding replacement parts for odd calibers (such as the one in the watch I just posted) may be impossible. I could not find any info on whatever caliber was in this, even though it was marked with its model number. That's what I've found to be one of the hardest parts of the hobby--sourcing replacement parts correctly.It's pretty expensive for a hobby, but you get to have a bunch of neat tools to play with.
>>18356119This is what being into watches should be like. Respect.t. Other tinkerer
>>18356119Thanks. Do you have any recommended tool kits etc. for me to get started?
>>18356016women only care about charging their phone, impressing their father, owning a fuck ton of cheap clothes to mix and match, going out clubbing, travelling, a guy who will fuck them and pay for everything, but never want a relationship, a nice apartment they can turn into a soulless husk with shitty furniturethere is nothing else
>>18356016You'll be lucky if she mistakes it for a citizen she saw at the mall.
>>18356163Check these three videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOohA9Gp6jwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tl7xNPvmyMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7lVBWKBYlk
All hail the chinkshit!Wanted a purple watch but wanted it cheap because muh novelty dial color and the chingchongs obliged. The 2824 clone is 0s/d in 2 positions and +3 and +2 in others. Hopefully it sustains. If it dies a replacement movement costs $40 shipped and I can do the swap myself.Why bother with low end swiss or seiko anymore? Or even soi microbrands? They're all made in china at the lowest cost to them and the seiko won't come with a highbeat or sapphire till you pay maybe 4x the price of this thing. No sharp edges and the lume works. The only mech stuff to consider that's cheaper is Vostok and that's just because they're characterful. New watches:(Vostok)Middling chinkshitCasioskip everything till entry level lolex at MSRP whatever that even is anymore unless you want an overpriced IWC or a Jaeger at deep discount.VC, Lange, maybe even Parmigiani IndiesPatek can go eat dick.
>>18356218>Why bother with low end swiss or seiko anymore?That's exactly right, though. Until you're getting into hand-made, top-end Swiss/German watches, or desperately want precious metal for some reason, there's really no point.Buy a couple shitters, enjoy them, save your money. Then when you can actually afford that Lange, enough time will have passed for you to get sick of watches altogether.>Patek can go eat dick.Why? Just their smug exclusivity?
>>18356253>Lange, enough time will have passed for you to get sickAnd then you can buy guns instead
>>18356016watches aren't equivalent to relationship astrology, baking recipes, scrapbooks, or beach pebbles and shell collecting. so no.
>>18356265I've had women notice and compliment three watches in my life:- Rolex, although she might have just assumed every "expensive-looking" watch is a Rolex.- Nomos, because of its bright blue dial. She didn't know shit about the watch, just liked the color.- Patek. Shockingly, this woman actually knew some stuff about watches. She was also a wealthy woman in her late 50s so her husband probably collected them or something.
>>18356253>Why? Just their smug exclusivity?All luxury brands are smug and exclusive to some degree or other. Patek is simply explicit about it in an obnoxious way. It's less that and more the fact that their designs have gone down the toilet and the CEO is proud of it. If they hadn't been churning out excessive production at ever diminishing quality since they abandoned the Geneva Seal then the only thing about them that I wouldn't like are their designs.
>>18356277>since they abandoned the Geneva SealI thought the story was that Patek abandoned the Geneva Seal and replaced it with their own PP Seal, which is more demanding. Is that actually bullshit?
>>18355913I like it, almost got one myself but decided on the 104 black instead because I liked the polished finish
Marathon watches overpriced or good to go? I think tritium is cool and dont understand why it isnt used more. Im not asking about any specific one in their line up, i think they all look pretty good if its the style youre going for.
>>18355293casio 158
Is it crazy that I want a sapphire sandwich of some form because it is impossible to rep?
>>18355900Ah yes, i had it in my mind but couldn't remember.
>>18356377Yeah Marathon is ok, rugged, reliable, no nonsense watches.
>>18356485Sure, but are they expensive compared to the competition?
>>18356355>I thought the story was that Patek abandoned the Geneva Seal and replaced it with their own PP Seal, which is more demanding. Is that actually bullshit?They abandoned a 3rd party independent quality inspector for their own "we investigated ourselves and found that we weren't guilty" fancy cope stamp. What do you think? Maybe it's simply coincidence that widespread collectors' reports of shitty patek QC started cropping up after that time. Maybe it's only coincidence that they doubled production at that time despite not having double the number of trained watchmakers that they claim take a decade to train each. Maybe it's coincidence that service times stretched out to infinity around this period because they had to pull the novice watchmakers who only did maintenance work into the actual production area hence the increased output and egregious QC.Maybe it's simply coincidence that they started producing parts outside of Geneva right after they abandoned the seal that stipulates that all production must be in Geneva.Yes, it's just a (((cohencidence)).
>>18356377Marathon are a rip-off because they can charge larping boomers and fatsoicucks a premium for the rugged army "connection". Same issue with CWC in the UK. All made in china at the end of the day just keep that in mind. If you want it buy it just know that it's about as "swiss" as your local chinese takeout and soldiers and rescue workers all use gshock or garmin.
>>18356500I thought they were assembled in canada, probably by an imported chinese factory but still. It is a bit of a larp but most dive watches are these days. Anyone serious is using a dive computer half the price with 10x the utility. I always had a timex on my wrist in afganistan but gshocks and casios were fairly popular too. Whatever was cheap at the px was what i saw mainly. Never did enough cool guy stuff to get issued a garmin.
>>18356533Dive watches aren't so much a larp as a style of watch today, unless you bought an semenmaster because of a bond film then yeah that dive watch is a larp but for a different reason. Muh rugged milspec govt. issue LGBT-SAR nato stock number "issued" watch used by special forces is 100% a larp. A generic fieldwatch style is not a larp. Something with pretentious "official usage" claims in any capacity are mallcop-tier larp.
>>18356554Im tracking what you mean now. Yeah i agree buying stuff because of milspec special forces antiterror elite killer squad uses it is fake news. No one on earth is getting issued an automatic watch unless its some commanders retirement gift. That being said i still think their field watch looks nice and the combo of tritium and automatic doesnt leave many options.
>>18356060Nice. Really nice.
what kind of person buys longines?
>>18356594a person who think they got "bang-for-your-buck" only to realize later that the watch itself is overpriced for being made in thailand, china and portugal. "Swiss made"
>>18356594I have a lesbian coworker who wears a Longines.
>>18356355>>18356499It was silicon.Patek wanted to start using silicon hairsprings. The requirements of the Geneva Seal don't allow for that.
>>18356582>That being said i still think their field watch looks nice and the combo of tritium and automatic doesnt leave many options.LumiNox and Ball are options.
>tfw too much of a wristlet to wear the type 1 squared
>>18356676I hate Ressence, they look like Samsung smartwatches
>>18356582>That being said i still think their field watch looks nice and the combo of tritium and automatic doesnt leave many optionsIt always seems to go back to this, but if you can stomach relatively honest chinkshit as opposed to "Swiss" then look up these two brands on aliexpress: >yelang>epochSome autos, some quartz. They mostly use T100 over T25 tritium tubes which are supposedly brighter. Reviews have pointed out in some Epoch that the listing is wrong and that they got T100's vs the advertised T25. Good reviews, no one seems to have any issues. Mixture of dependable Seiko or Miyota auto movements, some even Ronda quartz etc.Cheaper than all other current options I think, unless you go for the Ball dial knockoffs where even the minute tracts are rainbow gassed. I'm thinking of picking up one of the monocolor epochs during the March aliexpress sale. Yelang look more sporty and are generally 42/43mm whilst Epoch have dressier options besides the field/flieger styles.There's also Deep Blue, and American brand. Same price range with autos and quartz. Yelang apparently make DB's watches for them so it all comes from the same place in the end, "Swiss" label or no.
>>18356714I really like the concept and what they do to achieve the look
>buy the tudor i've always wanted>buy the zenith>buy the vacheron>most used watch still is an old timex weekender nato strapI'm starting to think i missed the point
>>18356758If a Timex Weekender is your syle, you should have bought an IWC Pilot or something like it
>>18356758No, that's normal. (Not necessarily settling on the Timex, but settling on a single watch.)Some people really like having huge collections, but most people just like having one or two nice watches. Hell, some people like having huge collections despite only wearing one or two of them.The thing is, you had no way of knowing how that Tudor or Zenith or whatever would fit into your lifestyle. Guys who love the idea of a calendar watch quickly realize they hate the inconvenience of setting the thing. Guys who love the look of a big diver don't think about how comfortable they will find the weight of the thing.You see this most often with dress watches where a guy decides he _NEEDS_ a dress watch, then remembers that he hasn't worn that thing in over a year because he never gets dressed up.In my case, I've been ditching my bracelet watches and complicated watches because I've learned that I prefer hand-winding, uncomplicated watches on straps.Which VC, by the way?
>>18356777Patrimony in white gold. Got it cheaper because the back had a scratch.
>>18356790Better than the front being scratched, I guess.Nice watch, though.
>>18356377>I think tritium is cool and dont understand why it isnt used more.tritium glows because of radioactive decay, but that means the tubes need to eventually be replaced. i don't know how marathon does it, but it looks like the dial and the hands would have to be replaced.
>>18356836Yeah, it's a complete dial replacement, not the individual tubes. The tubes are glued in place.That's what makes me more likely to buy from something like Marathon vs an AliExpress shitter: Marathon has existed since the 1930s so service is more likely to be possible in the future, even if the cost of the watch is slightly higher.
>>18356859I doubt you're going to give a shit about the marathon in 20 years when the tubes are functionally exhausted. It's not exactly some kind of heirloom piece with some tradable value and it comes with the usual disposable movements lower tier watches all come with. Its lifespan is about the same as the chinkshit: to be enjoyed for the 12 to 15 or so prime years of tritium tube life then left to rot in a drawer when the movement needs replacing because the more time that passes the less likely you're going to find anyone who wants to waste their time servicing an ETA shitter caliber when they can just replace it outright. This is why Ball doesn't make much sense especially since they have a track record of not being able to replace tubes on older models.In 15 years you'll be sick of the marathon, of watches or you might be dead. If you're still into watches by then you'll have probably bought something actually worth the cost of maintaining over time and forgotten about the tritium meme. Or not Either way, what I'm trying to convey is that, in the grand scheme of watches and buying watches and watch production in the 21st century there's very little that separates Marathon/Traser "swiss made" from whatever generic chinkshit is out there. Ball is chinese owned and made too lmao. Basically, don't romanticize disposable chinese made goods no matter who makes them Wear them for a time, then consign them to memory when they fail.
>>18356910>Basically, don't romanticize disposable chinese made goods no matter who makes them or where they claim they're made just wear them for a time, then consign them to memory when they fail.ftfm
t. hubleet fan
Ok how many people do you reckon would point out a fake rolex if someone were to wear it? I'm not talking taking it off and letting them inspect it, just showing it off on the wrist to complete normies. Would you call it out if you saw a fake one?I was thinking of buying one out of principle, I love the engineering behind it and I know what goes into making one, but I also understand its not 10k worth of machining and finishing work for a single watch. I'm just using a rolex as an example, you can apply this to any other watch you want.
>>18356922Not a single person i know would recognize a fake rolex besides one faggot who doesn't matter because no one likes him anyway.I would also not call anyone with a fake watch out unless they are peacocking it. I don't care what other people buy.Mass produced watches like rolex are an artifical scarcity for the sake of branding and prestige. Fuck them.
>>18356922As long as you're in the position to buy a genuine one, no one will question it. If you're flipping burgers as McDonalds but suddently show up wearing a 116506 Daytona, you might raise some eyebrows.
>>18356922>showing it offsomeone just noticing it and you saying it's a rolex, no one will care unless we start going deep into 5 figure territory. you flexing your fake OP to people who didn't ask like your life is complete thanks to it, no doubt someone will or at least should make you sit the fuck down.
>>18356922>Ok how many people do you reckon would point out a fake rolex if someone were to wear it?In person, basically no one. For the vast majority of people, needlessly causing conflict isn't worth it. Even if you're right, you'll still be blamed for causing conflict.Online, if you post a fake Rolex, damn near everyone will call you out. Even if you post a real Rolex, you'll have plenty of people calling it fake. Causing conflict online is free, easy, and fun.
>>18356932>image of a sub with slight rehaut engraving misalignment>instantly call it fake despite knowing genuine pieces are prone to itit ain't much but it's honest work
>>18356925>>18356927>>18356932That was my thinking as well, sometimes I see a watch that I really like but 50k is not a reasonable price>b-b-b-buh investmentI machine more complex stuff daily and it doesnt go for those prices. >>18356930I weirded it wrong, I didnt mean showing off like >oh check out my new flashy rolexI just meant wearing it and showing it to a person if they ask about it. People that know me already understand why im looking to buy a fake one
>>18356938>I just meant wearing it and showing it to a person if they ask about it. People that know me already understand why im looking to buy a fake oneUnless it's something extraordinary or you've got your sleeve pulled up like you're trying to get everyone to look at it, no one is ever going to ask about your watch.The most you'd ever get is>Nice watch, pal.Nobody else really cares.
>>18356938If you want to buy a fake just stick to the basic shit like Explorer 1s, OPs and black Subs.
>>18356938if your interest is the tech and craft behind the piece, good chink fakes already are almost indistinguishible from rolex nowadays because their movements and pieces are not that hard to make to begin with. Just make sure they are oiled.
>instantly sold out
Redpill me on Swatch.
>>18356966It's like a volkswagon golf
Feels good snitching on fags trying to sell fake Rolexes as genuine.
>>18356945Revelot makes a decent UG Polerouter homage, i'm considering on buying one for fun.
>>18356945fuck I want the watchjong
>>18356945I like the bracelet.
>>18356922Epstein wore a horrible fake VC and I doubt his clientele gave a shit or even noticed since they likely assumed that whatever watch he wore was real since he could afford it. If you look like you can afford something people generally fill in the blanks.It would be hilarious however if (you) got jumped, robbed and raped with your hand cut off because some nog thought you were wearing a valuable watch when it was a fake all along.
>>18356986I live in a 99% white country, shouldn't be a problem
>>18356994>I live in a 99% white country,for now
>>18356994Iceland? I think that's the only one left of the dozen or so historically white countries.
>>18356922i remember pondering these exact questions and more back in high school when wearing fake hypebeast clothing. people might not call it out but if your income/lifestyle/way you carry yourself doesn't match with a person who can actually afford a rolex then obviously questions will be raised. in summary, you could just not give a fuck what anyone thinks or just save up for the real thing so you don't have to worry about these things
>>18357012If they wore a fake rolex in iceland everyone around them would know.
avatard shitters
>>18356970Nice, at least make the scammers try a little harder
>>18357066They love taking photos of the "papers" which all read the exact same thing that I was able to cross reference to a post on a r*ddit sub dedicated to chink replicas. Makes for pretty easy takedowns.
>>18356966Some rich finance guys like Lloyd Blankfein and Stephen Schwarzman are well-known for wearing a variety of Swatch watches.
>>18357081Jesus Christ, this is disgusting.
>>18356966>>18357081>>18357135Swatch actually kinda makes sense as a "fuck you" watch.>could buy any watch he wanted from rolex to patek to AP to whatever else>CHOOSES to buy overpriced tacky quartz with cartoons on them
>Archie's stream is a bunch of old men arguing about how to open a pen boxDo people seriously watch this shit?
Quick question. I want to buy a watch before the end of the month. Will I have enough time between now and then to make sure it fits, assuming I'm ordering it online and delivery will be between 3-7 days? How does changing the strap length work? do you have to take it into a shop? Or can you do it yourself if you have the tiny screwdriver or whatever?
>>18357172If you've never re-sized a bracelet before and you don't have the right tools, take it to a jeweler and let them do it. It will probably cost about 10 bucks and you can keep having them adjust it until you get a fit you like.Resizing it yourself is relatively easy, but if it's a new watch, the last thing you want to do is strip one of the screws or gouge up one of the links.
>>18357200Thanks nigga
>>18357169If he bought a rolex or a patek he would be buying overpriced shit too that in the end of the day has as much impact on his money as a casio
The tissot prx line is the best new watch release In the past 20 years. It’s not even that great, everything else just sucks
>>18357227The prx is great for a guy who wears khakis and a polo to work everyday
>>18357227The prx was a rerelease of a 70s design
>>18357227Behold, the superior prx
>>18355666bulova super seville is also looking nice
Im so confused by seikos naming scheme/model convention. I think the watch i want is the turtle padi edition because i like the offset crown and the blue/red dial but trying to shop around i get at least 3 different model numbers. Seikos website calls it the srpe99, some places label it an srpa21k1, srpe99k1, ect. Are they all the same but labelled differently for different markets? Model year changes? Im totally lost.Since they are still a japanese company i would like to buy whatever would be the jdm version if possible. I try to buy things made for their original domestic market instead of export versions.
>>18357337JDM.versions have a J1 instead of K1.
>>18357251What's the catch with these? The movement?
>>18357411I had two CWs - sold one (inaccurate) and returned the second (disappointing build quality). I think they are generally overrated. Slick marketing and website but honestly a nice Hamilton or even Seiko is a better watch.
>>18357411looks they use cosc sellitas, nothing terribly fancy but nothing wrong with them either. I don’t really see a catch, except they are a younger brand so their future is a bit more uncertain compared with more established brands. that being said i would be more confident in cw over pretty much every other microbrand right now. they seem a pretty good value for the price if you like them.
>>18355619>There has not been a single good looking square watch ever
>>18357337If the model code changes completely, it's usually after an update. Sometimes the change is major, like a new movement. Sometimes the change is relatively minor. The turtles' change from SRP to SRPE was because the casebacks went from saying "Air Diver's 200m" to "Diver's 200m" on them.
>>18357081>>18357169it must be some kind of joke if he shops top tier clothes like that but couples them with a cheap plastic watch. does he drive a Kia too?
>>18357518It is a joke.The joke is: >I'm rich and get to wear whatever I want. You're poor and have to wear the uniform I tell you to wear. Now laugh.
>>18357361So look for a j. Easy enough. >>18357505I didnt realize they have like 3 websites with different models on each either. They have a lot of neat stuff but i really only need 1 watch. Silly question but would a jeweller or watchsmith be able to remove the padi logo from the face? I like the shiny blur and overall layout but it feels too cluttered. Im guessing its paint but i dont know how much work it would be to scrub if its even possible.
>>18357523>Silly question but would a jeweller or watchsmith be able to remove the padi logo from the face?Not without damaging it. It's not a sticker, it's paint. Removing the paint would either mean scratching the dial to shit or using some kind of solvent that will dissolve the lacquer on the dial too.I don't know about you, but I think the PADI logo is the coolest part. It's a throwback to when dive watches weren't sold at watch shops but dive shops and the dials frequently had the logo of the dive company on them, like the old Aqua Lung Doxa watches.
>>18357522>wear the uniform I tell you to wearonly entrepreneurs who control their own businesses escape the uniform. if a wall street executive like Blankfein is making a public appearance, an expensive suit is pretty much the only alternative in clothing. but the casual and cheap watch is a bit of an exception there
>>18357526I figured it wouldnt work like that. Im just paralyzed by choice at the moment. Ive set aside $700 max to get basically a forever watch but theres so many i mostly like but nothing perfect. I like 90% of the look. Logos are a bit cluttered for me, i dont care for day/date displays. The movement is suppose to be good and it should be easy to service since theyre so popular. Like i found this other one. I think the white dial would be great for readability, the date not taking up 3oclock is awesome, and i prefer the hands. But people have said the movement isnt as good, its more expensive, and im not sure i really like black and white over red and blue. I think id be happy with either most of the time. Im this torn between 2 watches from the same brand, ive hardly looked at others because it will just make me flipflop more. I turned 30 this year and just got my associates degree, i thought a nice watch would be a good way to celebrate but im not having fun browsing.
>>18357530It's always possible he likes wearing a suit. Lots of men do. Little boys (or manchildren) generally do not.The Swatch could be sending any number of messages:>I like to have a bit of fun>Don't take me or my advice too seriously>I don't care about watchesOr maybe he just likes it.
>>18357542Yeah, that's usually the case with Seiko. Always something. And when you do find one that's perfect, it's from a limited edition that was sold ten years ago.I wouldn't worry too much about the movements. It's not like they're going to suddenly break. They're incredibly durable. If it ever gets to be too inaccurate, you can hand it to your local watch maker and they can regulate it for you. They are simple devices.
>>18357548Its pretty cool they do everything in house. I didnt realize how rare that was. The way people talk about some watches and the price they command i figured everything was boutiqish. Thats reassuring about the movement. I dont really know what a lot of it means and i realized i cant see into the watch so i guess it doesnt really matter. I think the white one is growing on me but its almost double the price. I know its tough to say without trying it on but how much of a difference does 1-2mm really make on how a watch feels? Is it the difference between sliding under a cuff link or like cant fit a winter glove over it?
>>183575424:30 date window kills this for me, I was looking at it as well but got the spb143 which has a 3 o'clock date window
>>18357563>I know its tough to say without trying it on but how much of a difference does 1-2mm really make on how a watch feels?It can make a huge difference. Lug-to-lug (the size of the case from north to south) and thickness make more of a difference in terms of comfort than the case diameter (the east to west size)In the case of your SPB313, though, 41mm wide, 12.3mm thick and 47mm lug to lug should fit anyone's wrist comfortably. Seiko makes watches for Japanese people, who have tiny wrists, so even their largest watches are comfortable for a wide range of wrist sizes.
>>18357565NTA, I kind of like it. It's not as clean as a no-date, obviously, but it's pretty unobtrusive with the colormatched datewheel. I'd rather have that than a 3 o'clock date.
>>18357565I actually really like the 430 date. 3 is more typical it seems but i like having pips all the way around the face. Its funny what one person likes and dislikesYour watch is nice looking as well but i prefer the crown offset by 4/5 oclock.Seems a black dial is more common, do you think that makes it easier to read or just a style choice? >>18357571Thank you for explaining. I dont want something tiny but theres a point where its too big. I remember one of my friends loved these massive watches, they looked like dinner plates on his wrist. Not my style.
>>1835757941 x 12.3 x 47 is not going to be too big on any average man's wrist.Those are almost exactly the dimensions of the Rolex Submariner which is the de facto standard size for a men's sports watch and it's well-known as a watch that fits on basically anyone's wrist.
>>18357599I didnt mean this watch would be too big, just that i have seen some that i consider excessive. Worst case scenario i dont like it as much and resell it. As fun as the pepsi dial is i think ive decided on the white one.
>>18357616Cool. Post a pic when it arrives. The C-Shape case Seiko divers aren't seen too often around here.
>>18357579Grey dial is definitely a style choice. White with black hands or black with silver hands will always be the most readable. Luv me sunburst though and grey is about the most readable color to get sunburst in I suppose
Kofe time.
>>18357523>Silly question but would a jeweller or watchsmith be able to remove the padi logo from the face?no way, you'd ruin the dial paint
>>18357523maybe there's a similar dial at aliex for seiko modding
>>18357579I like 4:30 on a busy dial like a chronograph. It's just odd on an empty one
>>18357530They use suits because they are used to them. Nobody is gonna tell blankfein he needs to use a suit for anything.Entrepreneurs will also put a suit on when markets are not in a bull run and they need funding.
A package?
>>18357740It's not a Rolex.
>>18357740Please be a Rolex
>>18357740>>18357742>>18357748Sorry. There's no way I'd buy a Rolex on the internet...
>>18357751
>>18357755Seiko prospex
>>18357755>>18357757How did you!?It's a limited edition™
>>18357759Nice one, i had the normal black version.
>>18357759Looks very cool
>>18357759Pretty cool, anon. Nice pickup.
>>18357763>>18357767>>18357769Thanks fampais, I still need to get the bracelet sized, it's a bit too large.Here it is beside my sarb.
>>18357770poorfag
>>18357759I have that same movement in my $60 pagani
Anons who successfully culled your watch collections down to a few pieces, how did you do it?
>>18357854Forced myself to chose 3 and sold everything else no matter how much I liked them
>>18357854I bought a Rolex.
>>18357854I decided I wanted to get my collection down to two pieces:a weekday watch and a weekend watch.To pick the ones I liked, I put all the watches I had back in their boxes and put them in the cellar. I didn't sell anything yet, but I told myself that I could only have one of each kind of watch out of the box any given time. Afterwards, I realized pretty quickly that there were certain watches that I'd never wear and I got rid of them.To my surprise, the Rolexes was not spared. There were other watches I had liked better than any Rolex.
>>18357854Have a purpose for every watch (like one beater, one dress, one summer).Be realistic to what fits your daily life (ie most people can't wear a gold rolex as their everyday watch).
>>18357854Also, never settle down for a cope watch.Start the collection with the cheaper one of your grail watches that you can afford.
>>18357854I'm struggling with decision anxiety so bad right now. I want to buy a watch but I don't even know where to begin. My criteria is as follows:>the watch must look simple yet elegant>not particular about brands, but must be recognisable at least>must prevent me from being mogged in publicThat's it. You're probably wondering, "there are so many that fit that criteria, why can't you choose one?" The simple reason is, I get stuck on the last point. I see a watch I like, but I wonder if there's a better one that mogs it, or that I'll like more, and so I keep looking.
>>18357981Patek Calatrava. Does everything you require.
>>18357983Forgot to mention metal wristband
>>18357981I would just get a seiko alpinist, a fender telecaster, and a remington r700
>>18357981>>must prevent me from being mogged in publica neo-vintage Rolex Submariner. something like a ref. 14060M
>>18357854Buying an Explorer 1 then never feeling like wearing anything else for a couple of years. I sold everything worth more than $2k.
>>18357981Well what's your budget?
What is the most main character energy watch available today?
>>18358038
>>183580371k. Don't want to spend more than that on a watch. I think if you're going to spend more than that then you're paying too much, unless you're willing to buy rolex/omega.
>>18358038ROLEXROLEX SEXSimple as
>>18358048I don't think there's anything that fits your bill. At that price point, you're still getting borderline mogged by G-Shocks.
>>18358048Get a Rolex poorfag
>>18357983>>18358011This.If you have a Patek dress watch from before they gave up the Geneva Seal and a 5-digit Rolex, your bases are covered for life.From there, anything else is gravy.Maybe you want a Panerai or a Hublot or something for flexing or a G-Shock for sports.
NEW BREAD WEN!!??
>>18358076This is /nawt/ not /wt/. We wait until the bump limit.
>>18358048get an Alpinist
>>18358061A rubber strap luxury watch would be a good idea to add to that pair.
>>18357860>>18358035This seems to be the case with a lot of watch guys.Rolexes are just so versatile.
>>18358048>1k.If you want to mog at this price, you can only pretend that you're a minimalist humble guy but that you know your shit, so i'd say picrel.
>>18358095A black dial Rolex just fucking works.
>>18358097That's not a bad suggestion.I prefer the original bead-blasted finish version.
>>18358061How does this sound?>Patek Calatrava 5227G>Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 (Coke bezel)>Hublot Big Bang Unico (42mm, King gold and ceramic)
>>18358083>get an Alpinistvintage Alpinists are getting hard to find in good condition and nu-Alpinists are shit, though.Not a bad suggestion, but not an easy one for someone new to watches.
>>18358111Add a G-Shock. The new DW5000R, reissue of the original.Then you'd have a truly unstoppable watch collection.>>Hublot Big Bang Unico (42mm, King gold and ceramic)I'd go with one of the titanium Big Bangs. Even with the ceramic, that's a ton of gold. It's a very flashy watch that requires a flashy personality to wear.If you really wanted gold, though, I'd suggest one of the smaller gold Classic Fusion models that look like the MDM Hublots from the 1980s.
>>18358097>>18358101Also, get the one without the plastic escapement movement.
>>18358111>omega speedmaster in classic black>tudor black bay gmt s&g>hamilton murph
New thread>>18358185>>18358185>>18358185>>18358185New thread
>>18358041Casio mod when?
>>18355330for me, it's octopussy kracken
>>18355971>ruining a diving strap. . .
>>18357759>limited edition™custom bulk orders start at 1000
>>18357854I realized most if not all watches are shitters
>>18357981>>18356406was already answered. ticks all your boxes and if you think otherwise fite me.
