Why are pale goth girls attractive to normie non-subculture men, but goth guys are seen as creepy and pasty looking to normie women?
>>18360302Because paleness is something inherently feminine.80s goth is an androgynous movement anyway.
>>18360302Thats a copeprettyboys fuck and date hot normie womenAlt girls fuck 4chan creeps and normie men but can only secure 4chan creeps
>>18360324when I was younger and dressed like a creep, the only girls that would fuck me were norm core hipster girls that listened to those folk albums made by Zoey deschannel.
>>18360302but it's not masculine
>>18360302Goth is a feminine style, it highlights feminine attributes. Despite what (((they))) want you to believe, sexual dimorphism is a real big deal in humans. Feminine women are great, high value members of the population because you can fuck them and get viable offspring. Feminine males on the other hand are low value and a drain on the tribe's resources, so nobody wants them around. tl;dr go be a faggot somewhere else.(Verification not required)
>>18360481Please explain exactly what is feminine about the entire style.Anyways, i think the reason goes back to the cultural expectation that pale guys must be lesser because they don't go outside (and therefore doesnt have a life).
>>18360396>norm core hipster girls that listened to those folk albums made by Zoey deschannel.Yeah those are what i consider alt girls.
>>18360302That's just true for all sub/alt cultures beca_se the general expectation is for men to be generic.>punk-ish girl with ripped jeans, docs and colourful hairTotally cool and absolutely not a poser>guy with a mohawk and a battlejacketMust be unemployed>weeby con-princess with badges all over her bag and animu shirtQuirky and sorta cute>anime expert with the exact same bag and shirtLives in his mom's basement and jerks of to creepy hentai I guessOnly exception are the landwhale Disney Adults, probably because that's the only visible niche culture that's majority female and visibly pathetic.
>>18360513IdkAlt girls might be able to fuck a hot normie guy for one day but get ghostedAlt guys and alt prettyboys can fuck, date and marry hot normie girlsVinnie hacker fucked olivia rodrigo and fucked a bunch of hot blonde normie girlsTravis barker fucked and married a kardashian Paris hilton was fucking and dating prettyboys and pop punk singers I can list more
>>18360517You're talking about celebs.That alone means you can basically fuck anyone whenever wherever because there will be a thirsty enough fan waiting for you.
>>18360522TrueBut you gotta be a prettyboy
>>18360481make no mistake that women uphold these ridiculous gender norms via sexual selection. There are a 1001 female types (from vogue model thin to BBWs) that have appeal to men, but for men is tall & muscly with nothing else in between.
>>18360302men will fuck anything. a goth woman is like a different flavor of ice cream for them. women are much more selective about aesthetics.>>18360308hey youre the kurd who likes bear porn and ella hollywood right?
>>18360704>women are much more selective about aesthetics.selective? it seems that 95% want the guy to look like this.
>>18360522Timothee chalaemet alt prettyboy fuck kylie jenmer hot normie girl
cuz goth men are pussies
>>18360302I used to dress goth/alt. I got hit on by normie young women even on the streets. The look attracts teen/college normie girls. I'm gay so that was awful.
>>18360712He gets it>>18360704I like pretty much androgenous women, a recent discovery for me.
>>18360812faggot. thanks for admitting it so I can now laugh at your homosexuality every time I see your retarded posts
>>18360825Liking a women doesn't make you gay
>>18360807>I used to dress goth/alt.I'm a tallish asian guy in my early 30s who is pale and kinda have those defined features. I can ONLY attract teenage girls. No one has a explanation why can't I attract a woman in her 20s. Does their taste just change or something?
>>18360731I can't wait for the cheek and fish lip thing to go away. I expect it's like tats and they get it done to impress other women
>>18360812That's... not a woman.
>>18360883Thats a typical white man yes