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Why are pale goth girls attractive to normie non-subculture men, but goth guys are seen as creepy and pasty looking to normie women?
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>>18360302
Because paleness is something inherently feminine.
80s goth is an androgynous movement anyway.
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>>18360302
Thats a cope
prettyboys fuck and date hot normie women
Alt girls fuck 4chan creeps and normie men but can only secure 4chan creeps
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>>18360324
when I was younger and dressed like a creep, the only girls that would fuck me were norm core hipster girls that listened to those folk albums made by Zoey deschannel.
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>>18360302
but it's not masculine
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>>18360302
Goth is a feminine style, it highlights feminine attributes. Despite what (((they))) want you to believe, sexual dimorphism is a real big deal in humans. Feminine women are great, high value members of the population because you can fuck them and get viable offspring. Feminine males on the other hand are low value and a drain on the tribe's resources, so nobody wants them around.

tl;dr go be a faggot somewhere else.

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>>18360481
Please explain exactly what is feminine about the entire style.

Anyways, i think the reason goes back to the cultural expectation that pale guys must be lesser because they don't go outside (and therefore doesnt have a life).
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>>18360396
>norm core hipster girls that listened to those folk albums made by Zoey deschannel.
Yeah those are what i consider alt girls.
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>>18360302
That's just true for all sub/alt cultures beca_se the general expectation is for men to be generic.
>punk-ish girl with ripped jeans, docs and colourful hair
Totally cool and absolutely not a poser
>guy with a mohawk and a battlejacket
Must be unemployed
>weeby con-princess with badges all over her bag and animu shirt
Quirky and sorta cute
>anime expert with the exact same bag and shirt
Lives in his mom's basement and jerks of to creepy hentai I guess
Only exception are the landwhale Disney Adults, probably because that's the only visible niche culture that's majority female and visibly pathetic.
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>>18360513
Idk
Alt girls might be able to fuck a hot normie guy for one day but get ghosted

Alt guys and alt prettyboys can fuck, date and marry hot normie girls
Vinnie hacker fucked olivia rodrigo and fucked a bunch of hot blonde normie girls
Travis barker fucked and married a kardashian
Paris hilton was fucking and dating prettyboys and pop punk singers
I can list more
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>>18360517
You're talking about celebs.
That alone means you can basically fuck anyone whenever wherever because there will be a thirsty enough fan waiting for you.
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>>18360522
True
But you gotta be a prettyboy
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>>18360481
make no mistake that women uphold these ridiculous gender norms via sexual selection. There are a 1001 female types (from vogue model thin to BBWs) that have appeal to men, but for men is tall & muscly with nothing else in between.
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>>18360302
men will fuck anything. a goth woman is like a different flavor of ice cream for them. women are much more selective about aesthetics.

>>18360308
hey youre the kurd who likes bear porn and ella hollywood right?
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>>18360704
>women are much more selective about aesthetics.

selective? it seems that 95% want the guy to look like this.
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>>18360522
Timothee chalaemet alt prettyboy fuck kylie jenmer hot normie girl
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cuz goth men are pussies
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>>18360302
I used to dress goth/alt. I got hit on by normie young women even on the streets. The look attracts teen/college normie girls. I'm gay so that was awful.
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>>18360712
He gets it
>>18360704
I like pretty much androgenous women, a recent discovery for me.
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>>18360812
faggot. thanks for admitting it so I can now laugh at your homosexuality every time I see your retarded posts
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>>18360825
Liking a women doesn't make you gay
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>>18360807
>I used to dress goth/alt.

I'm a tallish asian guy in my early 30s who is pale and kinda have those defined features. I can ONLY attract teenage girls. No one has a explanation why can't I attract a woman in her 20s. Does their taste just change or something?
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>>18360731
I can't wait for the cheek and fish lip thing to go away. I expect it's like tats and they get it done to impress other women
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>>18360812
That's... not a woman.
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>>18360883
Thats a typical white man yes



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