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>>18514407
Morning
>CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser
>TO Glycolic Acid 7% (Only Mon/Fri)
>E.L.F. Vit C+E Serum
>TO Niacinamide Serum
>Origins Skin-Defense Guardian
>E.L.F. Holy Hydration Cream
>La Roche-Posay SPF 60

Nights
Mon/Wed/Fri
>Facial Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>Face Cream
>Tretinoin .05%
>Argan Oil (seals in moisture)

Tues/Sat
>Facial Cleanser
>Vit C+E Serum
>Skin Guardian
>Face Cream
>Argan Oil

Thur
>Face Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>TO Lactic Acid 10% + HA
>Face cream
>Argan Oil

Sun
>Face Cleanser
>Niacinamide
>TO Salicyclic Acid 2% or TO AHA 30%+BHA 2% (switch between every week)
>Face cream
>Argan Oil
Also pic is the sponge I was talking about for exfoliating. I tend to do it Mon/Thur just so there's ample time between scrubs

Is there a way to fix frown lines? At home

>>18514474
Nope.

>>18514474
monthly microneedling

if you want best results, combine it with botox

I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1,000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.

Btw, I like to dissect girls. Did you know I'm utterly insane?

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>>18513202
>uhh have you tried other things, like salicylic or azelaic acid. perhaps try lower concentration or something
i use drugstore cream that has allantoin + d-panthenol (you can feel how it softens your skin in 3 seconds) and then use a drugstore knockoff of lrp cicablast baume b5+ or whatever it was called. even my gf was surprised how good this combo is

sorry for late response. I've tried salicylic, glycolic, azelaic, anti-fungal ointments prescribed by doctor, retinal/nol (which is good for dealing with the spots that occur afterwards). honestly I don't know if my problems have been caused by shaving. it's probably fucking up my skin. I've only got problems in one cheek too. It's almost like perma redness in small patches and no matter what i do it itches and it's red.
If i shave with a razor, it's bad, if i shave with a hair trimmer, it's bad, if I don't shave it gets too long and irritates my skin even more than NOT shaving. benzoyl is the only product that have sort of worked. I just started using picrel, it works pretty well but it won't treat my main problems.

>>18514466
This has to be a joke. That's raping your skin and then some. I use tret daily, exfoliate weekly and I can't touch my face with any sort of scrub. And here you are, exfoliating basically every day.

How is shaving supposed to play into a facecare routine?

>>18514639
Shaving is a (physical) exfoliation step in your routine. Do it after cleansing.

Fuck... I'm using so many products now I have no idea which one is causing the burning sensation

>>18514600
Jesus anon, relax

>>18514413
>Ridding dark eye circles:
dark circles are effay as fuck

>>18514643
Do it before cleansing. You're using shaving cream and potentially introducing bacteria from your razor head to your face if you're not changing it regularly. Cleanse after you shave to remove soap residue and clean the fresh skin

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>>18514474
retinol for fine frown lines. I've just picked up picrel as I've heard it's pretty good. If you have deep set frown lines that ship has kind of sailed unless you want to take more extreme options like Botox and fillers

>>18514717
You worry about bacteria from razor head but don't care about bacteria and residue on unwashed face? Jesus. Sure, shave with that sunscreen on or whatever was your last routine.

PS. Try harder.

>>18514600
Nah, I had it checked over and refined by my dermatologist. I'll trust my doctor over an anon

>>18514600
I exfoliate daily plus shave with a safety razor in a hurry making cuts everywhere right after and my skin is doing fine

>>18514725
You're putting on shaving cream, which is soap, and then cleansing after, which removes anything left. What are you not getting.

>>18514725
you're supposed to shave in the morning after waking up, dunce

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How do I get rid of the red spots(near adam's apple)? Tret? Microneedling?

>>18515108
Moisturizing cream and concealer

>>18515192
I thought concealer is bad for the skin?

>>18515227
You won't hide the red spots unless you hide them.
If you want to treat them, then you'll have to wait. Time heals, you already know that

>>18515108
That's just some minor razor burn. It'll go away on its own in a few days. Salicylic acid and moisturizer should help.

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Despite going through retinization, within 3 weeks tret has given be a nice shine and significant/visible nasolabial fold decrease.
I keep fucking with my sebum deposits so I hope dutasteride helps a bit with my oiliness.
Also hoping I get rid of those fine lines on my forehead and post-wound hyperpigmentation next to my btow... 27 in Dec btw

>>18515269
Ah yeah I've had a suspicion since when I use my electric trimmer it's even worse despite the fact that I always meticulously clean that thing. Guess I'll try some other creams/blades.
>>18515259
Well yeah but I was just wondering if I should supplement something in addition to just letting the skin heal.

>>18515304
Bretty good shine bro.

w2c tret in europe prescription free and preferrably not something that an albanian stole from a pharmacy in france and put adulterants in

>>18515304
Does age even matter? I will turn 25 soon and my skin looks the same as when I was 18. With less acne.

I've been using tret for just over three weeks now and the skin on my forehead is flaky, is this good or bad?

>>18515304
looking good bro. no sure the dutasteride will help with the oiliness. fin didn't help me at least.

>>18515656
>https://www.alldaychemist.com/a-ret-gel-0-1-tretinoin-gel-20gm.html
i've seen this site linked a lot. haven't used it myself. if i was you i would probably use the OTC adapalene 0.1%. not sure if that's also banned in EU, but probably easy to get through a legit dealer like amazon from US.

>>18515721
i was the same. it will come to you. your hormones will shift in your late 20's - early 30s and then it will happen fast. the skin damage you picked up in your youth will start to show because you'll lose fat in your face, thinning your skin. the deeper down discoloration will show, wrinkles will form, and scars will become more pronounced. a lot of people start balding during that too.

25 is a great age to start tretinoin and finasteride.

>>18515732
it takes time for your skin to adjust. you should wait at least 12 weeks to see results. if it's still flaky you may want to move to a lower strength. in the mean time use moisturizer, sunscreen, and stay hydrated.

>>18514413
any reason why my hands feel so "wet" and sticky? i can't get them to dry properly even with cloth
is it because of summer moisture?

>>18515905
>looking good bro. no sure the dutasteride will help with the oiliness. fin didn't help me at least.
fin doesn't inhibit type 1 5ar in skin cells like dut does
>>18515441
thanks familia
>>18515905
tretinoins.com, arrived within a week

>>18515656
Get Boderm Tazarene from any pharmacy from Greece or Spain instead. 40g 0,1% or 75g 0,05% for 20 something eurodollars. They also pack a bunch of additional ingredients. Tret sucks penice compared to it.

Do you guys know how to treat acne around mouth area? near the corners of mouth specifically. And yes I do wash my face after I brush my teeth

>>18516676
benzoyl peroxide 10% gel
https://a.co/d/dkPL1IG

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OK, how do I get rid of that shit?

>>18516737
Salicylid acid

>>18516393
i appreciate you

>>18516737
>>18516749
or retinoids

What sunscreen should I use when I got to the beach? I'm American

>>18517087
i use EltaMD UV Sport Sunscreen SPF50 for face
and Banana Boat Light As Air Sunscreen Lotion SPF 50 for body

>>18517107
>Banana Boat
Have fun with that cancer

Ok I'm pretty sure they clobetasol propionate they prescribed me has fucked up my skin. My scalp... hurts now. Like, it feels like it's been beaten. What the fuck...

>>18514466
Yo faggots what am I supposed to do without Tretinoin while it’s sunny as fuck I also wash my face with scratchy stuff and use moisturizer and spf

>>18517237
>without tretinoin
Tret is just amped retinol. Better to have, but using retinol is still better than not. Moisturize (both in the morning and at night) and use an appropriate face sunscreen everyday and you're kind golden.

>>18517322
the more accurate description would be that retinol is tretinoin with extra steps

>>18517326
I mean is it? The only extra I would say is you absolutely need sunscreen if you're on tret, but the sunscreen should already be a part of the routine

>>18517326
Im retarded, I completely misread what you wrote

>>18517112
nah, it's fine.

>>18517199
Getting botox next week for the first time, want to finally get rid of the forehead lines Í've had since I was 18 (am 30 now). Tretinoin has improved the appearance of the lines but cannot make them fade entirely.

>literally the only thing that helps me from breaking out is benzoyl peroxide
>but it rapes my skin barrier
what the fuck do I do lmao

Should I buy individual products with specific ingredients, or buy an all-in-one product? I would save money with just one product, but is it better to buy individual to control the concentration of the product ingredient?
>ceramide cream
>vitamin c
>retinol
>AHA/BHA
vs
>all in one retinol+vitamin c+ceramide+hyaluronic acid cream

>>18518148
Try 20% azelaic acid

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What's a good moisturizer for black heads? I discovered recently that coconut oil can close pores so I think I fucked up somewhere.

>>18518276
Watch Sam Ellis' video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ0ruatmi74
salicylic acid and tretinoin are good options for you, also an in-office treatment like a fractional CO2 laser may be very helpful for you.

>>18518276
Salicylic acid helps for blackheads and you can use any light moisturizer.

>>18518274
I'm going to try mandelic acid first
not sure whether to try it in cleanser or toner form though

I spent $200 stocking up on elta md barrier renewal moisturizer because it's the only thing that's worked for my difficult skin. I feel guilty not getting by on cheaper stuff but I did try them. I tried water gel-based and they did not last long enough, I tried an oat moisturizer that was thick and greasy. My face was inflammed and painful. The only thing that works is triple the cost. I guess I should be glad I found something that fixes the issue.

>>18518997
how does it compare to:
ETUDE SoonJung 2x Barrier Intensive Cream
La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Balm

is it occlusive? i've been trying to find something heavy to layer over tazarotene. been using
S. Nature AQUA SQUALANE MOISTURIZING CREAM

not a barrier cream, but it's nice.

I have a feeling that caring about fashion and styles is useless before your skin isn't perfect. Do you agree anons?

I think I'm going to NOT use moisturizer for a while, at all, and see what happens...

>>18518437
what do you mean by light moisturizer? just something with less ingredients?

>>18514413
Best black eye bag removal? What do I do about massive pores?

>>18519499
Caring about fashion at all is a waste of time. Train your body and all clothes will look good. I'm only here for the skin advice. Which realistically should he posted on /fit/

>>18519499
Yes for professionals
No for anything else
>>18519582
NTA but he probably meant oil free (as in not heavy)

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I recently got this depilation cream at the store. It says it's sensitive and for bikini zone, but I am wondering does anyone knows whether it's safe to use on pubic hair (i.e. hair above the genitals). I would prefer not to get chemical burns if I can avoid it.

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now that the skinceuticals ce ferulic patent has expired, are there any decent dupes out? has the meta shifted?
what vit c serum do you use?

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So using mild Moisturising cleanser and prescription adapalene in the evening and the cleanser and sunscreen in the morning has been a huge improvement. But I still get 1 or two whiteheads popping up. Do I put the adapalene cream on them or do I do something else? Popping them manually leaves behind damaged skin like this.

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>>18520879
don't pop. after cleansing, put a pimple patch on it, then apply adapalene (not getting on the whitehead/wound).

>monthly microneedling
>great results from many people
>but you have to stop taking tretinoin a week before and after the session
>so your tretinoin application time is cut in half now
is it truly worth?

bought vichy 89 HA serum
dry to normal skin

let's see what happens...

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worst mask

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>>18519582
>Light
Torriden DIVE IN Hyaluronic Acid Soothing Cream
ISNTREE Hyaluronic Acid Moist Cream
ROUND LAB 1025 Dokdo Lotion

>Heavy
CeraVe Skin Renewing Night Cream
La Roche-Posay Cicaplast Balm
Illiyoon Ceramide Ato Concentrate Cream

don't really think it will mater which one you use, light or heavy.

i would start washing am/pm with CeraVe Renewing Salicylic Acid Cleanser
if that doesn't clear it in a few weeks try Paula's Choice SKIN PERFECTING 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant twice a week.

you may also want to consider a retinoid. you can get adapalene 0.1% OTC. Rx tretinoin works better though. this will improve your skin in multiple ways including clearing pores.

>>18514413
Morning
Morning Routine:
>Cleanse: COSRX Low pH Morning Gel Cleanser
>Toner: Klairs Supple Preparation Facial Toner and COSRX Propolis Toner Pads
>Essence: MISSHA Time Revolution The First Treatment Essence RX
>Serum: Klairs Freshly Juiced Vitamin C Drop
>Ampoule: PURITO Centella Unscented Serum
>Additional Hydration: COSRX Snail Mucin 96% Power Repairing Essence
>Eye Cream: Pyunkang Yul Concentrated Eye Cream
>Moisturize: ETUDE Moistfull Collagen Cream
>Protection: Relief Sun Organic Sunscreen SPF50+ PA++++

Night:
>First Cleanse(makeup): BANILA CO Clean It Zero Original Cleansing Balm
>Second Cleanse: COSRX Salicylic Acid Daily Gentle Cleanser
>Tone: Klairs Supple Preparation Facial Toner and COSRX Propolis Toner Pads
>Essence: MISSHA Time Revolution The First Treatment Essence RX
>Ampoule: MIZON Peptide 500 Ampoule
>Additional Hydration: COSRX Snail Mucin 96% Power Repairing Essence
>Moisturize: LANEIGE Sleeping Mask

Hydrating Mask:
>Dr.Jart+ Dermask Vital Hydra Solution Glow Face Mask with Hyaluronic Acid

I also use a kpaway moisturizer regularlh bc of chickenskin/kp. I've used this routine for roughly three years, and my skin is always super smooth and radiant. love it so much

>>18521529
>Serum: Klairs Freshly Juiced Vitamin C Drop
how do you like this vit c? have you tried others?

you're not using all of these every day right? most of this stuff is soothing, but my skin would probably be irritated.

>>18521531
i use this daily except for the makeup cleanser and salicylic since i dont use makeup daily, and soonjung's whip cleanser is more gentle for daily use :p. I've tried other vit cs but found this one is the best ingredient wise

>>18520980
But what if during the cleansing they pop by themselves? Anything I can do to help the skin recover as well as it possibly can?

>>18521572
i know advice isnt to let retinoids into open wounds or anything but retinoids

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>>18521572
it's ok if it pops while cleaning, the puss usually surfaces, so it's normal. the goal it avoid damaging the skin in the process, which means waiting for it to surface on its own or with very little assistance.

it's best to avoid getting any actives in the wound because they can cause damage to the skin resulting in scaring. cleansing and moisturizing is fine.

the pimple patch (hydrocolloid patch) will speed up healing. cleaning and sealing the wound will allow it to heal faster.
alternatively you can use an occlusive to seal and help speed up recovery e.g.
La Roche Posay Cicaplast Baume B5
Aquaphor Healing Ointment
CeraVe Healing Ointment
Vaseline Healing Jelly Original

Thought on aloe vera gel?

--- for the people without access, this is from my derm ---

SUNSCREEN

General Requirements:
- SPF 30 or higher
- Both UVA and UVB protection (broad spectrum)
- Water-resistant for outdoor water activities
- Daily facial moisturizers with SPF do not need to be water-resistant

SPF 30 if the generally accepted minimum protection and it will block approximately 97% of UV radiation if broad
spectrum. Higher SPFs are not necessary but are perfectly acceptable if preferred or if someone is especially sun sensitive
(medication, photosensitivity condition eg lupus). These higher SPFs will block progressively higher percentages of UV.
Higher SPF will not reduce the frequency of reapplication when out in the sun and it is recommended one reapplies every
2-3 hours on dry land and every hour when in the water.

Sunscreen Application when outdoors:
- Most apply an inadequate amount of sunscreen. It should be a liberal coating. 1 ounce (enough to fill a shot glass) is generally required to cover all exposed areas of skin.
- Apply to dry skin 15 minutes prior to sun exposure
- Be sure to include the ears, lips, neck, chest and back of hands as these are critical sun exposure areas that are often missed.
- Reapplication is essential. As above, every 2-3 hours.

Sunscreen Application when indoors and driving:
- It is important to use sunscreen when inside and driving as windows do not block UVA

>>18522290
Types of Sunscreens:
- Physical/Mineral -- titanium, zinc and ferric oxide
- Chemical -- Avobenzone, octinoxate, homosalate, mexoryl, helioplex, others
Both types are excellent and provide good coverage. I find that the physical/Mineral sunscreens provide better, broad
spectrum protection as compared to chemical products, and are less irritating. Mineral sunscreens, however, tend to be
more whitish or opaque although some of the micronized versions have become more cosmetically elegant. Chemical
sunscreens have the advantage of been transparent and a little less messy. Individuals that have very sensitive skin, those
with skin allergies to products and younger children (2 and younger) should stick with physical/mineral sunscreens and
they tend to be gentler.

Recommended Sunscreens:
There are many good options that provide excellent protection and higher cost does not necessarily mean more
effective. Most brands make many different versions of their sunscreens, and the active ingredients are listed on
the packaging. These are a few I like but this is not an exhaustive list of all good products.

>>18522291
Facial Sunscreen / Moisturizers with SPF
- Tizo3 tinted Facial Mineral SPF40 (good for acne prone skin)
- Elta MD UV Clear- regular or tinted (good for acne prone skin), EltaMD Daily, EltaMD Physical 41, EltaMD UV Restore
- Supergoop Mineral Sheer Screen SPF 30 or Supergoop Mineral Matte Screen
- Sunbum: Sunbum clear zinc SPF 50 or Sunbum Mineral SPF 50 Sunscreen Lotion
- Neutrogena SheerZinc Face, Neutrogena Purescreen Mineral UV Tint Face Liquid, Neutrogena Healthy Defense
- La Roche-Posay Anthelios Mineral (tinted)
- Alastin Skincare Silkshield All Mineral Sunscreen
- Eucerin Age Defense + Hyaluronic Sunscreen Lotion for Face, Eucerin sensitive face lotion SPF 30
- CeraVe Face Lotion with Zinc, CeraVe Facial Moisturizing Lotion (AM) with Sunscreen
- Revision Skincare Intellishade Original and Intellishade Matte
- Cetaphil face lotion SPF 50

Facial Sunscreen/ Powders
- Supergoop (Re)setting 100% Mineral Powder SPF 35
- Colorescience Sunforgettable Total Protection Brush-On Shield Broad Spectrum SPF 50

Regular Sunscreens for outdoor activities (water-resistant):
- Supergoop Play SPF50 Everyday Lotion (good for sweating)
- EltaMD UV Pure SPF47 ; UV Sport SPF50
- Neutrogena "Pure and Free" Baby or "Sensitive Skin" or "Sheer Zinc"
- Aveeno Natural Protection with " Mineral Block"
- Vanicream SPF 50 (good for baby/sensitive skin)
- Thinksport Kid's Safe Sunscreen SPF50
- Blue Lizard "Baby" or "Sensitive" (good for baby/sensitive skin)
- Sunbum products (wonderful for surfers! especially clear zinc)

Sunscreens for Darker Skin Types:
- CeraVe Hydrating Mineral Sunscreen 30 Face Sheet Tint
- Cotz Flawless Complexion Richly Tines SPF50
- La Roche-Posay Anthelios
- Alastin Skincare Hydrating Pro Mineral Sunscreen
- EltaMD UV Clear
- CeraVe Ultra-light Moisturizing Lotion
- Supergoop Unseen Sunscreen SPF 40

>>18522293
Korean Sunscreen Brands:
- Beauty of Josen Relief Sun: Rice + Probiotics SPF 50 PA++++
- SKIN1004 Madagascar Centella Hyalu-Cica Water-Fit Sun serum SPG 50 PA++++
- Round Lab Birth Juice Moisturizing Sun Cream SPF 50+ PA ++++
- ISNTREE Hyaluronic Acid Watery Sun Gel SPF 50+ PA ++++
- Dr.G Green Mild Up Sun+ SPF 50+ PA ++++ (good for redness)
- D'Alba Waterfull Tone-Up Sun Cream
- Aestura Derma UV50
- Thank you Farmer Sun Project Water Sun Cream SPF 50+ PA ++++

Sunscreen for LIPS:
- LipCotz SPF 45
- Headhunter stick
- Coola MIneral Liplux spf30
- TIZO tinted lip protection
- Sunbum clear zinc SPF 50

Sun Protective Clothing:
- REI
- www.Solumbra.com
- www.Coolibar.com
- www.railriders.com
- www.SunGrubbies.com
- Wallaroo Hat Company
- TutuBlue (full coverage stylish swim suits)
- San Soleil
- Athleta and Lululemon (some but not all are sun-protective)
- coLLo apparel
- Cabana Life
- UVSkinz

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Facial Cleansers

Normal Skin (creamy or gel-based cleansers)
- Cetaphil Face Wash Hydrating Gentle Skin Cleanser
- Neutrogena Hydro Boost Hydrating Gel Facial Cleanser with Hyaluronic Acid

For Dry Skin (cream or oil-based cleanser):
- CeraVe Hydrating Facial Cleanser or Foaming Facial Cleanser
- Cetaphil Face Wash Hydrating Gentle Skin Cleanser
- La Roche-Posay Toleraine Hydrating Gentle Face Cleanser with Niacinamide
- La Roche Posay Gentle Oil Based Cleanser

Sensitive Skin
- Vanicream Gentle Facial Cleanser
- Aveeno Calm and Restore Cleanser
- Dove Unscented Bar Soap
- Joesoef Anti Acne Soap with Sulfur 10%

Acne Prone Skin (foaming or salicylic acid/benzoyl peroxide)
- Panoxyl BP Face Wash
- Neutrogena Oil Free Acne Wash
- CeraVe Acne Foaming Cleanser 4-10% BP
- The Ordinary 10% Azelaic Acid Cleanser
- Joesoef Anti Acne Soap with Sulfur 10%

Makeup Removal
- Garnier Micelle Cleanser
- Double Cleanse: Oil based cleanser followed by a water-based cleanser

Low Allergen Soap/Body Wash
- CeraVe Baby Wash & Shampoo
- CeraVe Eczema Soothing Body Wash
- Dove unscented Bar Soap
- Tom's of Maine - Fragrance Free Sensitive Natural Beauty Bar
- Free & Clear – Liquid Cleanser
- Vanicream Body Wash

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Exfoliants for your Skin Type:
Normal Skin: Glycolic Acid
Dry Skin: Lactic Acid (The Ordinary Lactic Acid)
Oily and Acne Prone Skin: Salicylic Acid and Mandelic Acid (Paula Choice 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant)
Sensitive Skin: Polyhydroxy Acids

Acne/ Enlarged Pores / Dark Spots / Rosacea
Acne Products
- Differin Adapalene Gel 0.1%
- La Roche Posay Effaclar Adapalene Gel 0.1%
- Glytone Brightening Enhancement Complex Moisturizer
- Revision Skincare Black Mask (great for oily and acne prone skin)
- Glytone Acne Treatment Spray (good for sweaty teens)
- Omnilux LED Contour Face and Neck Mask (for acne and antiaging)
- Acnon Cream (good for acne pimples)
- Panoxyl and CeraVe BP Wash

Clogged Pores
Step 1: Double cleanse- oil based cleanser followed by a water-based cleanser
Step 2: Chemical Exfoliant (glycolic acid, lactic acid, salicylic acid 1-2x a week) minimizes pore size- Naturium Glycolic Acid
Resurfacing Gel 10%, Paula’s Choice 2% DHA liquid Exfoliant, Sunday Riley Good Genes All in One Lactic Acid Treatment
Step 3: Topical Retinoid (every other night) - Paulas Choice 0.3% Retinol and 2% Bakuchiol Treatment, Drunk Elephant A
Passion Retinol Cream, CeraVe Resurfacing Retinol Serum
Step 4: Bentonite Clay Mask (1-2x a week) - Innisfree Super Volcanic Pore Clay Mask
Step 5: Extractions

Dark Spot Correction/ Dull Skin:
Ingredients to look for: Niacinamide, Azelaic Acid, Kojic Acid, Vitamin C
- Medi-Pell Strogen-Rx
- Dark Spot Corrector, Glycolic B5 Face Serum & Anti-Aging Serum for Sensitive Skin
- Odacite Brightening Serum (dark spot corrector)

Rosacea Products
- Joesoef Anti Acne Soap with Sulfur 10%
- The Ordinary 10% Azelaic Acid Cleanser
- Glytone Brightening Enhancement Complex Moisturizer
- Cica Reedle Shot 100 (good for redness)
- Prequel Redness Reform Soothing Serum (good for redness)
- Cicapair Tiger Grass Repair Serum
- Afrin Spray- topically applied to skin (good for BRIEF relief of redness)

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>>18522304
dumped full text here
https://sharetext.io/be71a33c

dont fall for the gook scam, here:
>face wash with salacilyc acid
>2.5% bp to treat pimples
>clymacidin kills bacteria for extra protection against acne/pimples
>0.05% tret to keep you young for decades
>drink water, dont be fat, dont smoke, dont drink too much, sleep your hours
thats it

>>18522304
>Dry Skin: Lactic Acid (The Ordinary Lactic Acid)
how often for application?

>>18522321
you'd usually want to exfoliate about 1-2 days a week. depends on your skin. over do it and you can damage your skin barrier. you may not need it at all. just depends.

>>18522294
What do all those +++++ mean?

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>>18522334
>PA ++++
Protection Grade of UVA

PA+= Some UVA protection.
PA++=Moderate UVA protection.
PA+++= High UVA protection.
PA++++= Extremely High UVA protection.

https://www.paulaschoice.com/expert-advice/skincare-advice/sunscreen/what-does-pa-sunscreen-symbol-mean.html

anything else to add to my routine that actually works?
I got
>glycolic acid 7% every 2-3 days
>cleanser
>tretinoin 0.1%
>caffeine serum prn
>baum b5 prn
>spf50
>vaseline for eyes before tret

>dry, sensitive skin
is it over for me?

>>18522651
There's a billion skincare products specifically for you.

>>18522622
Saltwater bath

AHHH WHY DOES IT BURN WHEN I MOISTURISE MY HANDS

>>18522653
elaborate plz

>>18522652
I'm learning slowly.

For now, just focused on rebuilding my skin barrier as much as possible in-between monthly microneedling sessions (at-home).
Took out tret and vit C out of my regimen, all exfoliants, and only use La Roche Posay gentle cleanser once a day, at night.

Current routine, morning:
>Wash face with lukewarm water
>Vichy 89 HA
>Moisturizer with B5
>Sunscreen

Night:
>La Roche Posay cleanser
>Vichy 89 HA
>Moisturizer with B5
>Cicaplast B5 Baume

Seems to be working alright so far. Haven't had irritation from any product in 2 weeks. Still thinking about when to add back in Tret, C, and use Lactic Acid after this Saturday's MN sesh.

>>18522726
Also, I wanted to add that the one product I understand the least still are toners. Really have no idea what to look for in regards to my skin and current regiment and if I should even use them. They've traditionally felt blah for me.

>>18522727
i fucked up my skin barrier super bad recently and ive been using the haruharu wonder black rice hyaluronic toner (the one for sensitive skin not the one with fragrance and alcohol). ive used it for like a year prior but its one of the few things i could keep in my routine besides vanicream. very good stuff and i think it is helping my skin heal a lot

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>>18522667
damaged skin

before bed moisturize with LRP Cicaplast Hand Repair Cream for Dry Hands
put on Kitsch Moisturizing Gloves

https://a.co/d/4ni9qpE

>>18522726
>>18522727
toners can add in some moisture and ingredients, but are mostly blah, not really needed. i throw some on right after a shower, which seems to help retain moisture.

>Moisturizer with B5
B5 is a vitamin, not sure which moisturizer you're using.

i will say give it a few weeks after you think your skin is good to try to start adding back in other products. just because the skin barrier is thick enough to stop the hurting doesn't mean it's thick enough to handle actives being thrown at it.

you may not need a exfoliant at all. if your skin barrier is naturally thin it won't help you anyways. especially if you're already using tret. shaving is also physically exfoliating. i think a good rule of thumb for exfoliants is, if you're not sure or are worried about it, you don't need it.

>>18514413
Is cologne bad for your skin or is that just a meme?

>>18522984
it's fine, just don't use anything on your face/neck.

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>>18522974
thanks
my one remaining outstanding issue is the closed comedones/rash looking thing on my forehead
I've thrown a lot of stuff at it, vit C, tret, benzoyl 4%, salicylic, nothing has worked to get rid of them, there's like 20-30 tiny ones that redden from something but no pain or itchiness involved, they just look inflamed

what else can I try?

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I worked my way up from 3x a week to daily 15% azelaic acid use and it's drying the hell out of my skin. I'm supposed to just tough it out, right?

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>>18523021
that comes from clogged pores
usually tret would be the best option. are you sure you were using it correctly and giving enough time? it will take a few months of 4-6 days a week to start seeing results.

don't know your gender, but women can get them from hormones.

another thing, you could be having a reaction to a specific product you're using. for instance ILLIYOON Ceramide Ato Lotion breaks me out even though it's great for most people. just because something is noncomedogenic, doesn't mean it will be good for you specifically.
you can use https://incidecoder.com/ to try to sus out specific ingredients or just rotate through different products.

>Cicaplast B5 Baume
you might also want to back off occlusives for a couple of weeks to see if it clears up. unlikely, but possible.


if all else fails, you'll need to stop everything and start adding in things back in one at time.

>>18523029
Uhhhh moisturise???

I just realized that I'm not gonna be able to get the beauty of joseon sunscreen i like without paying out the ass for trumps stupid fucking tariff war now. Cool!

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>already tried niacinamide and tret for my tomoko eyes (male) with no marked improvement
Is it time to learn makeup?

>>18524027
Surely there's some niche US brands copying KR and JP by now, no?

>>18522622
What are your skin concerns? Don't really need any other actives/serums with tret besides maybe Vit C in the AM.

>>18524207
only if you want to. dark circles aren't unattractive though. healthy skin is the goal :)

>>18524260
filters used overseas aren't necessarily approved by the FDA in the US. k brands will sell US approved reformulations in the US and you have to go through vendors like olive young to have the original version shipped into the US.

If Broscience is what you call men's baseless fitness advice, what do you call women's baseless skincare advice?

>>18524347
Sisinfo

>>18524207
Dark things under eyes are because of melanin. Consider bleaching

what do you value more as a secondary ingredient in non-actives, Panthenol or Niacinamide?

Hello /fa/. I have been using GHK-CU topical form the ordinary and it is insane how good it is.

I want to buy raw GHK-CU and make my own solution to inject it or topical solution's or nose spray. I am looking on alibaba and other chinese source's because the fag's on .org said china has the best source's.

I am gonna pull the trigger unless anyone here know's where else I could get it. alibaba vendor's have to go through quality check's and they have good review's and more stuff.

Any idea's?

How important is sunscreen really? Do I need to apply it when I go out in the late afternoon for an hour? Do I need it for my morning commute to the office? I know its important but I really dont want to put some oily shit on my face before going out when Im in the sun for maybe half an hour.

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>xanthelasma appeared out of nowhere one morning
>treatments are surgery, laser, or chemical
>all leave a mark and it still can come back
>apparently I am prone to it genetically as many relatives of mine have it
It's so fucking over boys. Pic is not me, mine is flatter and slightly larger.

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they cancelled their sunscreen line for so long and now they brought it back but even the reviews on their own website are dragging this thing lmao
anyone here used it?

every noncomedogenic sunblock i try seems to make me break out. any suggestions?

>>18525100
the ordinary has like 5 good products and the rest is flat out trash

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>>18516018
its normal in certain cases (eg. teenage years, humid climate), in others not.
>>18516737
The Basic Routine + maybe something exfoliating
>>18517237
you can still use tret in the summer, but make sure its after dark. use sunscreen in the morning or your face will burn
>>18518148
perhaps a lower concentration
>>18518242
efficacy of an ingredient comes down to concentration and formula/vehicle/ability to penetrate your skin (and probably a few more things). i prefer og vitamin c formula that was confirmed to work but there are obviously new formulas so you need to dyor to see if vitamin c in your all in one product does anything, or do they just smash that name on a package and add 0,000000001% of it (which means its for marketing only)
>>18519780
>Best black eye bag removal?
understanding root cause and fixing it if possible
>What do I do about massive pores?
try tina tanaka pore videos on youtube

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>>18520420
ask chatgpt or incidecoder
>>18520707
geek & gorgeous 15%
timeless is 20% tho
these have been on the market for some time already, but there might be some new ones since march so check out your local/online stores
>>18520879
most whitehead cases come down to lifestyle and diet. see previous threads if you havent already, might be helpful
>>18521267
hmm never did microneedling but always thought it is used to fix certain issues (in a few sessions) instead of regular usage but i guess i was wrong. what do you use it for?
>>18521529
nice
how much time do you spend on these routines?
>PURITO Centella Unscented Serum
was pretty good to me for irritations caused by retinoids/exfoliation
>>18521845
good
>>18522307
thx

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>>18522622
depends on your skin goals
>>18522667
get something else or idk maybe vaseline and put disposable plastic gloves or something for the night
>>18522984
only if you use untested arab slop
>>18523029
daily? what do you use it for? i always considered it a spot treatment though it is apparently good for closed comedones
>>18524207
see a doctor to understand whats the root cause (thin skin, pigment, the way light works and makes a shade because of shape, lack of sleep)
>>18524446
depends what are your goals. for me probably niacinamide because i have dedicated panthenol cream anyway. though people with niacinamide serum would say panthenol i guess
>>18525043
thanks, was actually looking into it to try.
>I want to buy raw GHK-CU
there used to be anon who wanted to do exactly the same but not sure how it ended. maybe check archives
>>18525053
>How important is sunscreen really?
it is first thing anyone should get if they care about their skin
>Do I need to apply it when I go out in the late afternoon for an hour?
check uv rating in your area. if its more than 2 and you go out for more than 15 minutes then id say yes
>Do I need it for my morning commute to the office?
probably yes but again, check uv rating
>dont want to put some oily shit
then get one that is not oily. check youtube reviews of stuff available in your area. they usually apply the sunscreen in the video and show what their face looks like afterwards
>>18525100
heard that some of their products just suck and they stop selling it after some time
>>18525107
post what you tried so far, maybe there is something common between them

So how exactly are you supposed to shave without clogging the pipes? I use cartridges and shaving foam and rinse it under the tap. I shave frequently too so it's not like there's a bunch of thick hair that can form big hairballs, and I tried running hot water for a couple minutes after having to help clear up grease or whatever at the advice of some internet searches but that doesn't change anything. Do I really have to rinse it in a bowl or something? I admittedly haven't tried to before, but it feels like it won't rinse the blades as well as the tap
I'm at a loss but it's become a pretty big problem and using those chemical solutions to clear the pipes can't be good for long-term health

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>bio oil
>elf holy hydration
>snail mucin sometimes
>beef tallow on lips

the above are the only products I put on my face, I wash it only with water. a couple years I had a multi-step face routine with like a dozen products and still had acne. I've never had skin this clear and moisturized.

>>18525126
> supergoop
> Neutrogena Hydro Boost SPF 50
> EltaMD UV Clear Face Sunscreen SPF 46, Oil-Free with Zinc Oxide

>>18525233
>bio oil
why not gel over oil for face?
>elf holy hydration
which product?
>snail mucin sometimes
which brand? cosrx?
>beef tallow on lips
no experience with natural remedies like this desu

>>18525341
Common denominators across all three

1. Heavy use of silicones (Dimethicone, Cyclomethicone, etc.)
These create an occlusive layer. Not inherently comedogenic, but on acne-prone or clog-prone skin they can trap sebum, bacteria, and sweat, worsening breakouts.
Especially relevant if you use other occlusive products underneath or don’t double-cleanse.
2. Film formers / polymers (Polymethylsilsesquioxane, Styrene/Acrylates Copolymer)
These give the “smooth, blurring, gel-primer” feel. They can increase occlusion and contribute to clogged pores in some people.
3. Chemical UV filters (Octocrylene, Homosalate, Avobenzone, Octinoxate)
These are in all three except that EltaMD uses zinc as well.
Some people find Octocrylene and Homosalate irritating irritation can trigger acne-like breakouts.
Avobenzone is unstable unless well-stabilized; breakdown products may irritate sensitive skin.
4. Hydration + occlusion mix (hyaluronic acid + silicone)
Hyaluronic acid draws water in, but if combined with heavy occlusion and not balanced with exfoliation, it can make skin feel congested.

Likely culprits for your breakouts
Silicone-heavy bases + film formers trapping sweat/sebum.
Octocrylene/Homosalate/Avobenzone combo potential irritant breakouts.
Layering with other products (esp. rich moisturizers) may worsen pore clogging.
If you’re acne-prone, it’s often not one single “comedogenic” ingredient but the overall occlusive, film-forming nature of these modern, invisible sunscreens.

What is a good routine to get onto tret? I tried using it once every 3 days for one week, then every two days the next week, then every day the next week and ended up with my skin red. I think I broke my skin barrier.

>>18522314
Doesn't all this shit collide with each other? Salacilyc and Tret, BP and Tret?

niacinamide AM
Sunscreen

niacinamide Afternoon
Suncreen

Alpha Arbutin at night


trying to get less red undertone skin. anything to ad? I drink a bunch of water. My overall face redness is better.

Reminder to buy some microfiber cloths for your face and hair

>>18525546
so what would you recommend instead

>>18525546
damn, no wonder I'm breaking out
my neutregena sunscreen dry-touch thing is that exact combo plus one more in there, and the aveeno moisturizer is heavy in dimethicone it seems, and I put that shit on before heading to the gym to work out

I need a more lightweight combo in the AM and then I can put on heavier stuff at night I guess

>>18522290
Say I'm at the beach and use like a 60+spf. I mainly sunbath instead of swim, but given that its summer it makes me sweat a whole lot. Does this make me need to reapply the sunscreen more often due to the sweat and such coming off on the towel?

>>18525451
>why not gel
idk
>which product?
night moisturizer
>which brand? cosrx?
yes
>no experience with natural remedies like this desu
I grew to dislike petroleum products on my face so I switched to tallow, there are a million vendors on etsy and it doesn't taste like death like aquaphor does. works the same as aquaphor too, makes my lips feel soft and moisturized.
tallow is easy to make and I get some as a by-product of making gelatin in a slow cooker from bones. but the refining process takes a lot of work so I'd rather just buy it.

>>18522314
>0.05% tret
wish it was otc already

peptides for skincare

overrated/underrated?
standalone serums vs. in creams?

>>18526043
>amazon prescription: $30
>45g tube of tret 0.05%: $44
it's basically the same price as less effective commercial skincare products

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>>18525162
soften up the hair in the shower and use a DE razor and hold it under the shower head to rinse the hair and dead skin cells off, look for DE razor models with clear inlet holes for rinsing like this merkur futur (or it's many $10 clones)

>>18526090
Do I really need a DE razor, I tried one before and I really couldn't get it to work so I'd prefer not to. But it also sounds like that has more to do with doing it in the shower instead of the sink, which sounds annoying, but if it helps I suppose that's my only option

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Hey anons, do you think these products works?

Based Daily Cleanser contains;
>Water: H2O
>Decyl Glucoside: Gentle Cleansing Agent
>Glycerin: Humectant
>Glycol Distearate: Emulsifier
>Willow Bark Extract: Gentle Exfoliator
>Bamboo Charcoal: Detox + Oil Control
>Green Tea Extract: Calming Antioxidant
>Eucalyptus Leaf Extract: Antimicrobial
>Xanthan Gum: Thickener
>Citric Acid: pH Adjuster
>Potassium Sorbate + Sodium Benzoate: Full Spectrum Preservative System

Based Daily Moisturizer contains;
>Water: H2O
>Glycerin: Humectant
>Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride: Emulsifier
>Cetearyl Olivate: Emulsifier
>Sorbitan Olivate: Emulsifier
>Squalane: Softens + Protects
>Rosehip Oil: Rich Antioxidant
>Aloe Leaf Juice: Soothing
>Chamomile Extract: Calming Antioxidant
>Eucalyptus: Leaf Extract Antimicrobial
>Ceramide NP: Naturally-derived Ceramides For Skin >Barrier Support
>Panthenol: Strengthening
>Citric Acid: pH Adjuster
>Carrageenan: Hydrating Emulsifier
>Sclerotium Gum: Hydrating Thickener
>Potassium Sorbate + Sodium Benzoate: Full Spectrum Preservative System

I know keratosis pilaris (goosebumps 24/7) cant be cured but can it be made less visible? I have it on my arms and legs and i use a body lotion containing 10% urea/carbamide and it helps a little but is there more i can do? Should i have a lotion with bigger % urea?

https://www.cosrx.com/collections/all/products/the-6-peptide-skin-booster-serum

anyone used this product? seems like a big deal

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>koreans are the only ones who have sunscreen that doesn't feel like liquid dogshit on your skin
>westoids are so neurotic they obsess about reapplying their disgusting, greasy goop every 2-3 hours every single day
nah nigga, ain't gonna be me

>>18526398
could be ok, but skeeved out by anything that's has gender marketing.
probably better off just using cerave moisturizer and cleanser.

>>18526552
Keratosis Pilaris
- Glytone KP Kit
- Amlactin
- CeraVe SA Cream
- First Aid KP Smoothing Body Lotion

got prescribed tretinoin cream for my hair sack inflammations and im peeling like crazy. when does the peeling stop? i'm applying every other day for 10 days then every day for 10 more weeks. the strength is 0.25

>>18527174
after the first month or so. are you moisturizing? with what?

>>18527177
dexeryl (french non-comedogenic moisturizer) and la roche posay toleriane

>>18527174
>>18527193
try cicaplast baume b5 as a night finisher, helps with tret peeling

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Has anyone used/know about pic related? I'm almost out of the Olay retinol and i'm thinking about trying something different.

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Is there any point in getting a proper skincare routine (moisturizer + cleanser), or is retinol enough if I'm just your average guy.

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trash
do not use