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for me, it's Thursday boots

Just want a pair of 10 or 11 eye derby boots that won't shit the bed but the only obvious options I can find are either Gripfasts which are made by Solovair or Grinders which are an even more poverty version of the former.
Everyone's glad to shit on Solovair now so what's the alternative for an actual old Doc Marten style boot? Or are all no-nonsense boots just dead and I have to buy the brown leather super tactical hiker heritage trailmix whateverthefucks now?

>>18539671
post the pair pls

>>18539731
The answer to this question is always milsurp.

>>18539758
That's a fair point, it's a classic move I just automatically assumed all milsurp would be sand coloured now and never bothered to check.
If there isn't anything in my size, worst case scenario I guess I could get the Gripfasts in greasy and pray that the split sole shit is just overrepresented (huff several tanks of copium).

>>18539779
I think people abroad buy greek army boots for quite cheap, but not sure where you should buy from to get the ones that are standard issue.

The ones that the army issues to you are indestructible, and they end up quite comfy after you wear them all day for a few months.

>>18539794
I'm in the UK and while I get your point, the fact there's a market for military boots kind of implies that many aren't entirely satisfied with their issued boots.
That being said the 10 eye docs from the 80s specifically are what I'm looking for but all I can find are the 8 eye boots which aren't innately bad but tend to skew towards the gimped little hiking lumberjack larper audience.
I guess I'm just attached to the old look despite the fact everything is more shit forever besides buying a pair of boots that I don't actually like the look of that costs half as much as my monthly rent. Most of the milsurp stuff I'm seeing is 8 eyes too, I'll just have to think about it.

>>18539806
>the fact there's a market for military boots kind of implies that many aren't entirely satisfied with their issued boots.
Do you not know what military surplus sales are? The military buys boots in huge amounts and change models from time to time. When they change models they don't just use up all the old model boots they have in storage, they just sell them.

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From last thread:
Trying to figure out how to give maintenance to these boots I wore through winter last year ahead of the cold weather. Also looking to see if the same routine would apply to suede boots.
An anon recommended using a 60/40 water detergent with a cloth and then using Obernauf LP plus a horsehair brush.

Another anon brought up these have Gore-Tex, does the Gore-Tex mean it needs any special care or different product?

>>18539884
gore tex is just the liner there's not much to care for

>>18539884
>Also looking to see if the same routine would apply to suede boots.
no, suede wants waterproofing sprays

leather is fine with just wax

>>18539895
What about Nikwax instead of Obernauf LP? That one advertises that it's recommended for Gore-Tex leather footwear. Is it just a marketing scam to keep me away from the good stuff?

>>18539880
No I mean that there's options to buy new boots, there are retailers that offer a wide variety of tactical boots and work boots aimed at soldiers in case they want something better than their issued boots.
Granted I do get your point, though that's also why I brought up the fact I'd expect after however many years of war in sandy countries that the surplus would all be desert colours now.

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>>18539678
Copped these used for 70€, Sequoyah, handmade in Italy

>>18539937
yes, you showed them last thread
nice cop for 70yuros but shit cop since they have 2(two!) fag straps each

>>18539779
Update on this:
Cocoran surplus boots are still up for sale and they fit more or less what I was looking for, my only concern is that it actually seems too good to be true. I didn't see any knockoffs on ALiExpress so I guess it's okay, I'll weight it up against my other options and I might just have to pray that the sizing is right but it's good to see that practical and simple boots can still be cheap.

>>18539937
I promise I'm not shitposting. What do you wear with these? They look very feminine to my eye, but I'm sure that could change when seen worn.

>>18539964
Update on this update: Apparently the Corcorans you can get nowadays are all the parade boot model that are issued to US paratroopers but have a thick external coating to make sure that they remain shiny which is the exact same issue as the high shine Solovairs. The actual vintage Corcorans are nowhere to be seen. This has been a load of shit and ignorance was frankly preferable.

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What's in the box?

I want some red wing blacksmiths in copper, is this btg approved?

>>18540021
Perfectly acceptable babby's first proper boot. I think they look better than IRs.

>>18539920
that sounds like advertising shit cause the conditioner would not penetrate THROUGH the upper leather and into the gore tex liner unless you're really saturating that shit then that'll just cause other problems later down the line. what does nigwax advertising claim it does?

>>18540001
something exclusive for the euro/jap market

>>18539995
Can't you just remove the coating? If that isn't feasible, you may be able to find something similar if you search for Bata jump boots.

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>>18539731
>no-nonsense boots
>Doc Marten

>>18540001
we have to wait until 2145 for the product reveal?

fucking gay, I'll be 153 years old

>>18539884
Gore Tex is a waterproof membrane, keeps water out while letting sweat evaporate out. If you use oil based conditioners it can eventually go through and potentially clog up or damage the properties of the gore tex. Is it likely to happen? I don't know.
That's why you're supposed to use wax which doesn't penetrate the leather, but creates a water resistant barrier. That also means the leather isn't breathing and letting out moisture.

Gore Tex is retarded in full leather boots since you're supposed to wax and condition them any way. It's basically marketing for people who doesn't know better.
They're a cheap fashion boot, enjoy them while they last, there's no point in going out of your way with 'elaborate' maintenance. Just apply some wax.

>>18540345
Worth noting that goretex and every breathable and waterproof membrane will eventually disintegrate in confetti.

>>18540001
garbage

>>18540314
in the 80s they were just a pair of practical boots you could get for roughly £60 if we account for inflation
granted that was 45 years ago but there was a good chunk of time between now and then where they were practical boots

Any recs for a gyw moc-toe low shoe?

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>>18539678
My boots.

I don't work a physical Labor job so the middle boots have become my daily/casual wear boots.

Should I replace them for a similar boot but not steel toe (thinking redback or mongrels) or just get another pair of RM Williams (thinking the gardener model, not sure if I should get black or brown though)

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What's wrong with Thursday boots, exactly?

>>18539731
people shit on solovair but i have had mine for 2 years and wear them daily and they are fine and haven't worn out yet

>inb4 wooden shank
yes they're not meant for climbing ladders all day
>inb4 no gusseted tongue
doesn't matter they aren't meant for long distance walking either
>inb4 that picture of tongue being out of alignment
see above, also leather is malleable and it'll centre over time if you lace it down

if you want to wear them for the same reason you would wear doc martens (casual wearing to office or mall or whatever) then they're fine.

>ohh noo toyota camry can't compete in dakar, wtf!!!! shit car
this is what 99% of people who shit on solovair sound like

just got some walnut patriots, i think im going to order some kilties and front ranges next. Wish i could get the vibram 140 soles without going custom