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Reze Edition.

This thread offers a forum to discuss and debate wristwatches, pocket watches, and clocks. Several members here are highly knowledgeable in specified areas of horology, so please contribute to the thread by asking questions and/or asking for advice if you are planning on purchasing a watch from an AD or the grey market. Please post pics of your watches here; it doesn't matter if it's worth 5$ or 50000$, because there might be someone who wishes to eventually purchase the same model that you own and would love to hear some real-world advice regarding ownership. The experience matters the most, not the price.

Everyone is welcome in this thread, because we are all Frens here.

Previous Based Thread: >>18540903
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>>18544950
Continued from last thread: why did you fall out of love with the Moser?
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>>18544960
I still like it. I just don't see myself wearing it that often like I do with my other three watches. I keep it for special occasions only. It's a very shiny piece with a lot of presence.
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>>18544961
I guess that makes sense. There aren’t too many special occasions where a rubber strap sports watch is appropriate.

Bummer. You were so proud of it when you got it.
It took me a while to learn to actually wear my nice stuff too instead of treasuring it. But, then, like you said, you’ve got resale to think of. That changes things. I don’t sell watches so resale is irrelevant to me.
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avaturdello
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left or right wrist? i wear mine on my left cause my watch covers a mole there perfectly
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>>18545026
On the right. So the movement winds while I "unwind".
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what's the best watch that looks like a pair of testicles?
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>>18545045
Henry Moser
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>>18544963
Looks like the anon with the white gold Moser will be the only Moser owner ITT.
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RRRRRROWLEEEEECKS
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Apart from the obvious financial differences and brand awareness, is there anyone who actually prefers the Daytona over the superior Breguet 3800 Type XX?
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the pelagos ultra might be the move
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>>18545096
ROLEX SEX
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>>18544638
>I really want one of these but apparently the minute hand jiggles fairly freely since it does dead-minutes or whatever you want to call it

Wut
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>>18545118
I'm guessing he mistook Junghans for Mondaine.
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Holla back, Junghans.
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Which watches have the most aura?

No mainstream brands please
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>>18545150
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>>18545166
When was the last time you exfoliated your skin, Ranjeet?
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>wanted a Hamilton Khaki Field for ages
>saw one in person and immediately hate it
the dial looks like paper wtf
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>unsubstantiated claims of a redesigned planet ocean being announced this november
>42mm, possibly thinner
BIG IF TRUE
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>>18545166
where are the pushers?
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>>18545269
They're still waiting on the confirmation of a 38mm seamaster 300 to come true.
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fellas,
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>>18545330
OMFG, buy it and drape it over your chainsaw
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>>18545118
Junghans thread of people complaining about hand alignment issue had two posts mentioning the wobble
>The minute hand alignment is an "issue" by me, too. First of all, it does have a bit of a wiggle/play, somebody mentioned approximately 1 degree, this seems to be correct in my case, too. I would say definitely not more than 1.5 deg. So every time you tilt your watch, the minute hand "falls over".
Another
>There is a little play in both the minute and second hand, but I'm okay with that.
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Kofe time.
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>>18545477
Based
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>>18545276
It's a monopusher, meaning it only has one, on top of the crown.
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>>18545477
This guy is a mod/janny.
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>>18545499
He's gotta do something with that free time, I guess.
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It's here. Btw I'm not feeling the straps so im looking at other options. I think a black bracelet would look great. Any recs?
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where can i find more watch infographics like this? preferably /fa/ originals
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>>18545518
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>>18545508
Damn..... Impressions overall? Did you try the natostrap that came with it?
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>>18545518
here, I'll drop you the only infograph you need, faggot. you may even call it THE BEST infographic.

>high horology, best of the best
ROLEX

>shitters, scams, poorfaggotry
The rest.
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>>18545523
I love despite it being all black, that it's very readable at a glance even in the dark. Watch is dope. Just not a fan of the straps it comes with. Excited to wear fits that actually show it off instead of my work wear that obscures it cause of my suit.
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>>18545526
Enjoy your jap girls
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>>18545518
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>>18545527
Imma look for a nice black bracelet and keep you posted, omw home now from work so I'll get to looking tomorrow
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Anyone own a Kuoe? I think this thing is gorgeous, tell me why they are actually shit.
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>>18545578
Bro, do you know when they say that, every watch looks better IRL? the Kuoe watches are the only ones that this doesn't apply to. Really. I've seen them many times live, and they always fall flat. It's like, the 7th choice for a Japanese watch. I'm sorry, this is just my opinion.
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>>18545566
Found this, huge fan of the design. Might cop
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Quick wrist check guys.
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>>18545586
POST IT ALREADY. IT'S BEEN YEARS
YEEEEAAARS
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>>18545525
Rolex has been largely tainted by poseurs and real "hustlers". The brand is tainted and its only saved by it's forced scarcity.

There are better watches that display wealth without the negrified tainting on its name
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>>18545601
Such as?
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>>18545582
>the only ones
nope, this applies to hamilton too
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>>18544807

I don't think I would ever spend that much on a watch, I mean enough to buy a Cartier. If I manage to destroy this somehow I might buy something in a similar size that's a bit more premium, but this being so crazy cheap (50 euro) is part of the charm.
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eco-drive is the greatest watch technology ever invented and I'm tired of pretending it is not
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I'm gonna say it, if Seiko or any other brand makes a Reze - Chainsaw man collaboration, no matter how shitty it is or expensive, I'm buying it.
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>>18545681
>an grown adult buying merchandise from a children’s cartoon
Let me guess, you’re over thirty, no education, unmarried
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>>18545689
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>>18545689
Seiko collabs are extremely based
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>>18545618
Apple Watch Hermès Ultra 3
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>>18545719
PIGSLIM watch.
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Hi all, I was gifted a rolex submariner from my father a week before I graduated with my engineering degree. He previously wore it for a few years then stopped after a while. I eventually said to him I want to wear it just for the day of graduation because it symbolized how far I've come but how far I still stand to go. He did not go to college and grew his business from nothing, he was previously a poor farmer.

When he gave it to me he told me to get it fitted for the day and to keep it. I told him I only plan to wear it for very special events. He said no, wear it whenever, even at work. It says you don't need the job and you're there to succeed.

Since then, I have gone on to wear it when I'm not dressed in my college outfits (sweats) and I absolutely love it.

Now I have worn it in a professional setting during my research and gotten asked if it was real. I am about to go into my first job in an engineering leadership development program where I work at an engineers level but also shadow directors and program managers to learn how to lead.

Should I wear the watch at work? I am driven to succeed but I don't want any bad perceptions holding me back.
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>>18545777
looks a bit shady, but we'd need a way better picture to judge
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>>18545777
https://youtu.be/la2ztR5askE
Fashion rules don't apply to heritage watches. They can be worn whenever and wherever you want, and you should not think of its value in terms of money but instead value the watch based on its history previous to being passed down to you and the history it will gain in all the time you'll have it.
Also there's nothing more gay than someone who only takes their watch out its case once a month. They're meant to be worn regardless of the fears of scratches or wear and tear
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>>18545777
So you're wearing a used second hand watch..
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>>18545777
Not an expert here. Is it normal for the lume dots to not be centered on a Submariner? (Especially the one at 11 o'clock)
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>>18545777
Is that your wrist? If so, people will judge you a lot before it even gets to noticing the watch brand. You're pale, fat, weirdly hairless and have childish drawings on you.

I would focus on other things besides the watch no one cares about.
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>>18545584
Theres also this one thats kinda growing on me. Im not sure how much id like this strap longterm however. But the color looks nice, i dont know if i wanna stay with the all black motif however
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What do you think about the Seiko Credor Ref. 2F70-5A10 "Egyptian"?
It's a future Credor classic.
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>>18545557
Every time I see this I believe it
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>>18545855
Definitely a future classic. Don’t sleep on this one.
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>>18545855
>a bird making a caca
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id on the watch in the second panel?
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>>18545883
>parody
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Rolex.
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>>18545855
disgusting chinkopakoid
>>18545825
cringe
>>18545703
horrible
>>18545632
gay as fuck
>>18545578
chink cringe
>>18545508
powerful cringe
>>18545498

hideous uglychink
>>18545166
retarded
>>18545330
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>>18545950
Brown fingers typed this
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>>18545928
ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX
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>>18545959
No you are chinese or pakistan maybe timmy
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>>18545096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzqh2kroYIw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgorm0DgkBA
Poolex, not watchmakers but a watch corporation
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new baltic diver looks nice
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>>18545096
Give it back, Rajeev.
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>>18546240
Of course. It's the safest design I've ever seen
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I wore my GS to a work thing figuring it would fly under the radar like my imaginary friends living inside my computer said would happen, and LITERALLY the first day I did that, one of my coworkers who had never stood closer than about two arm's lengths and with whom I have never discussed watches or "effay stuff" even ONCE was like "is that a grand seiko" and (this part is going to sound like "and then everyone clapped") he actually said "zaratsu polish", a term I never thought I would hear outside of the internet

I wanted to say something about how it was just a 9F shitter but I just mumbled about how I bought it on the internet and then changed the subject but you people fucking lied to me and now I'm paranoid people are going to think I'm either wildly irresponsible with my money (which I am) or that I'm overpaid (which I am not)

tl;dr don't listen to /fa/ or /r/watches/ because nobody except me has ever gone outside
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>>18546426
Cope.
Nobody look at your Grand Seiko thinking "woah this must be an expensive watch!". Just ask them how much they think you paid for it, 99% of them will say around $500. Tell them you paid over $5k for it and they'll immediately call you a retard for not getting a Rolex.

See, that's the thing with Grand Seiko. People who don't know shit about watches still know the name "Seiko" because everybody has ever been to a mall looking at affordable watches. Just for that simple reason nobody will ever associate Grand Seiko with wealth, class or fine things.

MALL SHITTER
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THE TUDOR
bio: blackshield was born with a special power. he was a better chronograph than all the other watches in the swiss fighting academy. he served in the swiss military fighting omega and in the final battel against omega they were fighting and omega turned him to the darkness and blackshed turned against rolex and killed him. he lost part of his snowflake in the battle which is why he doesnt not have a snowflake hour hand, pls stop PMing me askin me why thats why. also snoflakes arent gurly fuk you grandseiko everyone knos ur a fuckin quartz scammer fagot
likes: hurtin people, bein badass, timing motorcycle races, nine inch nails (the band), killing, death, punk rock, jinco jeans, skulls, darkness, hot gurls with big boobys who are sluts, short nails (on hand), snoflakes, red (cool kind not gay kind)
dislikse: niceness, happiness, levis, grandseiko from japan fuck you seiko stop usin zaratsu finishing you peace of shit, trent razner, ninne inch nails (on finger), rolex (megga ass-faggot), sunshine, life, my dad (hans wilsdorf), glashutte
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P E A K
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>>18546426
How many more times are you going to post this pasta?
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Kofe Time
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The reason so few Rolexes are posted here is because, once a man buys a Rolex, he realizes he's solved watches and leaves. He may drop by every now and then to check up on /wt/ but he'll never waste his time posting here at every hour of every day.

But anyway, I hope you guys have a fun thread. I'll be back in a couple of weeks or so to see if there's any fun new memes.
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Btw,I like bb58 and not Rolex explorer. Rolex logo is shitty, even the simple and boring Tudor shield is better (tudor rose was a lot better),I orefer aluminium bezel,no crownguards...
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>>18546437
> once a man buys a Rolex, he realizes he's solved watches and leaves
Not true. I do love my Day Date, but I love other watches too.
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>>18546462
Decently based. Pics of the backside????
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>>18546466
Here you go.
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>>18546429
I liked it.
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>>18546472
Impressive, very based. That winding up must feel very good.
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h. moser just clicked.
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Thoughts?
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>>18546516
43mm so not for wristlets. Seems expensive for a slightly modified stock movement and meteorite isn't actually that expensive to source - but it is a fairly unique dial, that's what you're paying for. Though I also suspect it looks better in pictures than it does in person.
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>>18546526
Thanks for your down to earth and honest input. I thought meteorite was more rare
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>>18545578
I do own a Kuoe and I regret buying it.
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>>18546556
Post pics
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>>18546563
>>18546556
Bump
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>>18546426
cope plus it's too large for your bitch wrist
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The Credor Locomotive stands as a true testament to visionary watchmaking, destined to become a future Genta classic and a coveted collector’s gem. Drawing inspiration from the revolutionary designs of Gerald Genta—whose groundbreaking creations initially faced skepticism but ultimately defined modern luxury—the Locomotive embodies that same forward-thinking spirit, blending innovative aesthetics with impeccable craftsmanship. Unlike other brands, Credor is not just another name but a symbol of meticulous artistry, and this limited edition piece underscores that exclusivity, making it an exceptional investment opportunity. History has shown that Genta-inspired designs tend to appreciate immensely over time, and the Locomotive is no exception; it’s poised to soar in desirability once supply runs out and the market recognizes its true value. Dismissing this masterpiece based on fleeting criticisms ignores the timeless significance of Genta’s influence, which has cemented itself as a hallmark of horological excellence. The limited availability guarantees rarity, and with the genius of Genta once again awakening interest in the secondary market, owning the Locomotive now secures a front-row seat to future appreciation. For true connoisseurs and forward thinkers, this watch is more than a timepiece—it’s an investment in history, innovation, and prestige. Don’t let skepticism hold you back from claiming your stake in this extraordinary piece, because, as with all legendary designs, the real value lies ahead.
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gave my watch to a tree
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>>18546516
Yeah i like them, but apparently they're quite pricey. They do have lots of cool options, and the moons are lumed, which is a plus.
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>>18546632
Buy an ad.
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>>18546639
Is that a rolex?
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>>18546660
if it were it would say so on the dial
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>>18546665
It could be one of those quiet luxury things where a brand releases their products without the obnoxious branding slop on them to cater to self aware wealthy people.
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>>18546632
Unless it's made by the Micro Artists Studio most of the Credor catalogue is actually more like tacky mall trash than haute horology.
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>>18546697
Not him but I've never seen a dial so beautiful. You have to see an feel it in person.
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>>18546744
https://files.catbox.moe/c1f7gp.mp4
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>>18546744
No, it's shit and so are you.
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>>18546675
Rolex would literally be nothing without branding.
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>>18546697
It’s not. MAS makes less than a hundred watches per year and they’re all 50k or higher.

The Locomotive’s movement is entirely undecorated.
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>>18546780
Probably why the watch looks so average and generic. It doesn't even have an open caseback. I do like the MAS Credor watches but that watch leaves me very whelmed.
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>>18546748
The credor locomotive is a future classic.
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>>18546775
Then it's not much of a watch is it?
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>>18546823
It's a fucking reissue of a watch no one remembers. Some 'classic'.
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>>18546428
Do normies even know how much a rolex costs? They know they're expensive, but do they know how expensive? Maybe expensive to normies is like $1000.
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>>18545508
>black suit
>shit for shoes
Stop larping. And stop buying Copelex.
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>>18546827
Rolex is the iPod phone of horology.
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>>18546775
I'm not sure what you think they should do differently? The entire watch market is about branding.
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>>18546854
>More interesting case designs
>highly finished movements
>practical complications
>bring back pencil hands
>less text
>remove the geriatric magnifying bump
>add some hand-polishing or other physical touches that make the watch less soulless (as it is currently produced almost entirely by machines)
>38-39mm cases
>better dials (less flashy with subtle textures)
>stop it with the obnoxious hour hands.
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poorlex
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>>18546639
Trees dig watches.
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>>18546874
So you don't actually want a Rolex.
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>>18546874
Everything you list is offered by other watch brands.
Rolex is the biggest watch brand in the world.
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So, /wt/, I've been reading up on a lot of opinions about why Rolex is considered one of the most (if not the most) iconic watch brands in history. Seems that the main consensus is related to releasing a bunch of watches that have influential designs (e.g., Submariner, Datejust and Day-Date).

What's your take?
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>>18547013
When you buy a $10k Rolex, about $2k went into making it and $8k went into various forms of marketing (competitors like Omega are closer to a 1/2 ratio).
There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Rolex is a brand trying to make a profit. And despite what most autists think, marketing actually works if it's done right.
Rolex made the right moves at the start of the Quartz crisis, bought the right celebrities at the right time, and succeeded in putting themselves at the top of the watch world in most normie's opinion.
They don't make the best watches, don't offer the best value, and definitely aren't innovative, but none of that actually matters.
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>>18547013
They were the first to make actually really good watches that were affordable to the middle class. Basically, they were 1950's Seiko. And then they made a lot of good business decisions in the following decades.
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>>18547027
I think I saw a few old watch ads for Rolex and I checked out what they would be in today's dollars and I think they were around $2-3k USD. I don't think that's affordable but I might also be misremembering.
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Why does this thread hate bittercel so much? He is unironically the best poster we have ever had. Here's my reasons:

bittercel is always brutally honest. He is like water, he will find a crack in your watch and pour in from there. He is the criticism we need. You never get that in watchuseek or reddit, you only get an echo chamber of “nice watch, wear it in good health, champ” bullshit. Not with bittercel, he does not care for your feelings which is why he will tell you the truth. Yes, your watch is too big for you, yes it’s a shitter, yes the lugs look like shit, yes the movement is crap. You, as a critically thinking individual, should embrace this.

We are all protected by anonymity here which is the point of this site. Avatarfags are pathetic going against this. Take reversocel for example; he couldn’t handle a bit of heat from bittercel and immediately fucked off to r/watches as soon as someone wasn’t sucking his cock over his shitters and pens lmfao.

Yes, bittercel may seem bitter at first, but he is the counter force to all this circle-jerking in here. He is harsh but fair. You hold the fact he never posts a watch against him, but that is merely him not taking a side. He is not a brain-dead fanboy to brands (other than Rolex, but Rolex is Rolex). This way he maintains his unbiased position.

And the best part of bittercel? He is always there for you, right here, in this thread.
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>>18547046
who?
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>>18547048
Blessed times we are living, fren.
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>>18546836
It’s a meme. Lurk more. No one takes the Locomotive seriously except one avatarfag who’s trying to force us to respect it.
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>>18547013
You can never go wrong buying a Rolex, that is why they are the most popular luxury watch brand in the world. People will bitch and moan about how they are overpriced with boring designs but they are still exceptionally well made, reliable, accurate, and will last a lifetime. For normies that's more than enough.
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>>18547048
It’s pasta. At least a year old, at this point, probably older
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>>18547060
Let's be fair, it's often hard to tell the difference between someone spouting a meme and someone being a retard.
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>>18545508
If you’re not in love with it and you’re already at the point where you’re trying to swap out straps in the hope that SOME combination will make you actually love the watch, then I’m afraid it’s already over.

I hope whoever you bought it from has a return policy, if not, I hope you bought it cheaply enough to where you can trick someone else into paying what you paid.
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>>18547061
>they are still exceptionally well made, reliable, accurate, and will last a lifetime. For normies that's more than enough.
Sounds like you're talking about Seiko desu.
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>>18545508
At this price point, if you're "not feeling" any part of it, then WHY THE FUCK DID YOU BUY IT?
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>>18547077
Fair but they don't have such a large or robust second hand market. Buy a Rolex and history tells you that you can sell it at a later day and get at least your money back - to a lot of people that matters. Seiko, with a few exceptions, can't claim that.
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>>18547090
Taking the second hand value (=opinions of the next owner) into account at all when buying a watch is pretty cucky desu
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>>18547092
So what? We're talking about normies, they are the ones buying Rolex.
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>>18547090
The only watch I ever sold for twice its new price (after 20 years) was a Seiko 5.
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>>18547097
Normies don't sell watches.
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>>18547098
Great, you made 50 bucks.
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>>18547101
What??
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>>18547106
I don't know what you're trying to tell me with those squiggly lines but my point stands.
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>>18547103
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>>18544950
@whoreanon
https://vocaroo.com/1dZY2z3gePI7
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>>18545578
I have that model in a gold colored case and it looks great on my wristlets; have gotten several compliments when wearing it. Keeps time well enough. I was initially concerned the miyota rotor might be a bit loud but it has been fine. All in all one of the better 'value' watches in my collection, and it is head and shoulders better than anything Seiko puts out
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is it a massive ick to get my girlfriend a vintage ladies watch for christmas?

i own a 45KS and i was thinking of getting her one to match mine that i like to wear pretty often. i didn't realize how cheap these things were, all women's watches for that matter. how come there is zero market for them?
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>>18547146
You're the only one who knows your gf well enough to answer that question.
I gave my wife a $300 dress watch and a Casio F91w, and she's been wearing the Casio for the past 10 years.
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>>18547145
As far as faults, I don't think a dress watch like this really needs a screw down crown. Other than that though no real issues or complaints.
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>>18547146
>is it a massive ick to get my girlfriend a vintage ladies watch for christmas?
99% chance yes.
Unless she knows about and shares your enthusiasm for shitty used watches, she will see this gift for what it is: a shitty used watch. You don’t want to spend a lot of money on her and she’ll know it.
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>>18547146
>how come there is zero market for them?
99% of watch buyers are men
99.999% of watch sellers are men
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cop or not
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>>18547153
i felt like it would be a good avenue for her to "get into" it, as she has a lot of adjacent hobbies of liking shitty old costume jewelry, old used clothes and other etsy slop. although this is a bit out of her scope admittedly.
>>18547148
i feel like she'd be into it, at least somewhat. she has a couple fake "tank"-style watches that she likes to wear sometimes. there is a grand seiko version of this movement which i may spring for if i can find one. i'll be unironically jealous of her watch then, a VFA men's grand seiko is $10k+ while a ladies one is <$500...
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1 IWC enjoyer vs 100 Rolexfags
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>>18547160
>i'll be unironically jealous of her watch then,
Be sure to tell her.
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I robed a guy last night, took his Rolex. Its a submariner. How do you sell it, anyone know? Pawn shop started asking questions so I walked out.
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>>18547185
>I robed a guy last night
sounds kinda gay
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>>18547155
It's a very intricate watch. Not for everyday folk.
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>>18547106
Patek has more market share than cartier? Damn.
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>>18547070
i have a confession to make. i like it, but it fits me tight on the last adjustment
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In a world where Rolex screams status, Tudor whispers taste. A Rolex is the billboard of success, but Tudor? It’s the secret handshake of those who know better. You pay less, yet get a sibling forged in the same fires—Swiss precision, timeless design, and none of the "look-at-me" hysteria. A Tudor is a poet's watch; a Rolex, a salesman’s pitch. Why spend double to impress strangers when you could spend less and impress yourself?
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>>18547207
i ended up getting this btw, it looks similar to the OEM strap. ofc im going to swap it into the tudor clasp
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>>18547070
There isn't a single person who has kept the stock strap on his black bay ceramic.
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>>18547211
Will look great on the TUDOR clasp
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what watch to buy to impress girls like this?
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what kinda fag buys the black bay ceramic over lets say THIS >>18547209
Its all black bruh
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It doesn't take much to make watchfags furious enough to lose any and all control over their bladders and sphincters. Infact all it takes is any of the following two words combinations :
>grand seiko
>rolex good
>rolex bad
>swiss made
>coffee time
>small wrist
>authorized dealer
>great value
>Richemont group
>vintage inspired
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>>18547217
>t. Made a contract with the buttplug devil
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should i buy an omega pie-pan constellation of a grand seiko "first" for my first $2000+ watch purchase?
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>>18547224
tudor is the answer
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>>18546462
How's it run?
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>>18547224
Don’t waste your time and money climbing the ladder. What watch do you want to buy? Buy that or save up for it.

Buying a starter watch or some shit will only see you selling the watch a couple months later and taking a huge loss.
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>>18547230
>How's it run?
I don’t know, those are the only two pics I have of it.
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>>18546854
Yes, because of Rolex, because they followed Rolex's lead and it was the only way the swiss mechanical watch industry survived the quartz crisis. I say this as a rolex fanboy without the slightest bit of irony. Outside of heritage and history and branding there is nothing particularly exceptional about Rolex in the modern context. They've made the most basic possible watches will minimal changes to their lineup since the 1950s. The only thing that has changed is instead of being your grandpa's Gshock they are now sentimental milestones that you buy to communicate that you are successful.
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>>18545632
>quartz brick
Just get a Seiko neovintage. You can get them for under 50 euro
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>>18547013
>main consensus
Not here.
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>>18547090
>you can sell it at a later day
Can you really? How many are currently being sold on chrono24? How long have they been there? Why should i pick *your* Submariner over a thousand other ones?
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>>18546697
My Credor was made at the Shizukuishi Watch Studio, forged by hand in pure nippon steel by a watch master
Keep coping and SEETHING omegoid
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>>18546819
Have you actually seen it?
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What do you think about the
CREDOR
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1998
NAGANO OLYMPICS
KINETIC
?
It's a future Credor Kinetic classic.
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>>18547247
Ok, thanks for confirming that it was NOT made in the Micro Artist Studio. I appreciate the honesty.
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Let’s do this, boys.
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>>18547185
China
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>>18547252
Based Hamibro.
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>>18547252
Do it yourself.
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>>18547250
>Ok, thanks for confirming that it was NOT made in the Micro Artist Studio
and?
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>>18547260
…and it’s a SHITTERRRRRRR!!!
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>>18547262
So Grand Seikos are shitters too?
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Future classic? C U R R E N T C L A S S I C
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>>18547242
This picture is supposed to convince someone to buy that?
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>>18547267
We have a bingo!
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>>18547278
So you've flip flopped your position
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>>18547277
Yeah it's my watch that gets the most comments from women
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>>18547282
Uh, no, kiddo. I was agreeing with your statement that
>so Grand Seikos are shitters too?
(They are)
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>>18547293
>>18540647
>"Japanese watch" is not an impressive term until you get up to something like Grand Seiko, Kinuchi, Kurono, etc.
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>>18547146
If she's never worn a watch it's risky but you know her best.
Bought my wife pic related for her birthday and she hasn't taken it off.
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>>18547312
>"Japanese watch" is not an impressive term
Yes, yes. We know. No need for qualifiers.
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tell me not to buy this, please
it's gorgeous
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>>18547160
>she has a couple fake "tank"-style watches that she likes to wear sometimes.
why don't you get her a vintage Cartier then?
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>>18547328
Oh, that’s easy. Just remember that every time you look down at your wrist, you’ll be reminded that you couldn’t afford a Lange 1.
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>>18547258
No shit, woman.
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>>18547326
That's a quote from (you)
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Thoughts on this?
$500, Stellita movement, 10.8mm thick case
They’ve also got one that’s like a field dial with a dive bezel combo, kinda funky.
Missed out on the era when aliX chinesium watches used ETA clone movements and weren’t thick as a brick on the wrist.
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>>18547230
Not sure what you mean.

>>18547247
I don't think I have any reason to seethe. But maybe you do.
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>>18547348
I don't know man, there are just way too many micro brands at this point for me to care about any of them, there's a new one every week. At $500 just get a brand watch. Orient or something I don't know.
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>>18546941
Correct!
>>18546952
Being the biggest brand means nothing to me. Like I said, it's the iPod phone of horology. I don't accept the idea that just because Rolex makes a lot of money their watches are automatically good.
>>18547209
I sent this pasta to my friend that wears a Tudor and he unironically agreed with it. Nice.
>>18547224
It's really thick and bulky. Have you tried it on?
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>>18547185
>I robed a guy last night, took his Rolex. Its a submariner. How do you sell it, anyone know?
an amazing timepiece and a long term investment. wear it in good health.
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>>18546660
its a $50 chink no brand rolex"homage" and the fact that you have to ask if its a rolex shows how retarded premium watchfags are
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>>18547328
Have you seen the panomatic lunar up close? It's insane.
>>18547335
Every watch is a cope of something else. Even 50K breguet are a cope of VOUTILAINEN. Even this>>18547358 because he couldn't get a Philippe dufour.
Only Rolex isn't a cope because it's by far the strongest brand. The only Rolex cope is another Rolex which costs the same but you couldn't get your hands on.
With that being said, anything is better than your watch.
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>>18547408
And maybe casio because if one wants a Casio he isn't cross shopping for anything else.
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>>18547408
insane good or insane bad?
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>>18547408
What is the speedmaster a cope of?
And the 50 fathoms?
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>>18547408
What rolex costs the same as another rolex but is easier to get, but isn't also a perfectly decent watch and thus not necessarily cope?
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>>18547408
I don't even like Voutilainen and Dufour only makes watches for midgets. The Simpicity only comes in 34mm and 37mm sizes.
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>>18547426
I'm going to be very harsh here to make you understand that you suffer from cognitive dissonance. And throw in some unnecessary insults to spice things up a little.
You said
>"I don't even like--"
Emphasis on the "I". This isn't about you, you main character syndrome triple vaxxed midwit. What if I said this, and pay attention to how this sentence is going to make you feel you soulless NPC:
>"I don't even like a Lange und Söhne---I like GO'e designs more"
Well? I know what you thought of, you know it, and the others know to.
Now, how is it different from me saying
>"It doesn't matter that voutilainen costs 5 times more, I don't like the designs"
How's this not a cope? Exactly. Now have some inner conversation to better yourself as a person and learn to think from an objective 3rd perspective.
>34mm
That's even more impressive considering the movement has the tightest, deepest, roundest and shiniest anglaged bevels on the industry.
>>18547422
Speedmaster? If you know the actual history of how it was chosen to go to the moon, than any chronograph that's objectively better than it (el primero) or stronger brand (rolex/Daytona) is the watch people would buy instead. If you don't know the story, it doesn't matter because Omega recently removed the "all parts are made in Switzerland" from their website which means you're paying 10K for a 95% made in China watch. That's up to you if this doesn't bother you.
The 50 fathoms is based, I can't say anything negative about it. Shady history to which one actually came first but, yeah.
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>>18547438
Post your collection.
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>>18547441
now you
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>>18547438
>than any chronograph
then*
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Just got back from my friend's bachelor party. Spent £350 to rent a Nautilus for the night. We went to a club in London, tables, bottle service etc.

Not one single girl commented on my watch.
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>>18547438
I asked which watch the speedmaster is a cope of, and you did not answer.
I don't know why watch buyers obsess so much over stories and country of origin. Anything to avoid discussing the actual design and features of a watch, huh?
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>>18547470
Oh so if stories don't matter, like I said, Daytona and el primero.
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>>18547448
Sure.
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>>18547475
Obviously a unimaginably expensive collection and beyond impressive. But it's SO safe and devoid of character my man.
Damn it. No outlier, nothing. Maybe the FP? I don't know dude. That's the same collection every multi-milionare has, every single one of them. Congrats on being successful, no one is going to deny that, and yet you seem like a boring person.
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>>18547475
>oil sheikh
>on my 4chan
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>>18547479
I like them, and that is all that matters. Also those aren't everything.
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>>18545477
Why wont you stop
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>>18547483
Impressive, very based. I agree. Buy what you like habibi.
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>>18547441
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>>18547495
Weeb
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This is the only watch you need
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>>18547495
>SNA411
Nice
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>>18547508
But it's kinda shit though
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>>18545519
here's a much less cynical alternative
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>>18545518
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>>18547562
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>>18547549
just like communism but i just want a watch that looks unapologetically communist
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>>18545518
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>>18547348
I have a 36mm Glycine Combat Sub and it's great, particularly the movmenet. Only problem for me is the 18mm lug width combined with the thickness of the straight lug cutouts.
I assume that one is 40mm with 20mm lugs though so probably is better proportioned
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>>18547472
Those both came after the speedmaster. You're just making stuff up. They also look way uglier, don't have interesting cases, and don't have alternative scales besides tachymeter, which I find useless.
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>>18547408
Rolex is a cope of having any sort of personality.
The NPC watch.
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Do you bother putting your daily back in a case and on its watch block? or just leave it on your table
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>>18547594
Look up "ideal watch collection" on r/watches. You'll see most redditors consider the ideal collection as 2-3 Rolexes, a Royal Oak, and a Nautilus.
So Rolex and Genta.
You're right it's total NPC behavior, it's only comparable to things like Stanley water bottle and Labubu.
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>>18547595
I don't have a watch box, but I put my weekly watch on a bedside safe for the nigh. The rest stay safe in the bank for insurance purposes.
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Can someone ID this or at least tell me if it's a Chink shitter or not?
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so fucking true
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>>18547601
Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? Those are all great watches.
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>>18547460
if you had a gold digital casio they would have
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>>18547625
They are all ugly, boring, and/or not much for what you're paying for. Labubu
Someone with a list like that has no knowledge of watches, they're NPCs. Genta watches are disgusting over-cased slop (except the polerouter which normalfags don't even know about). Rolex gets discussed here enough.
It's like if a "car guy" said his 5 favorite cars were all luxury SUVs.
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>>18547621
>24h subdial
>open heart showing raw bridge surfaces inside the movement
>fake screws on the fake balance bridge
If you can't tell whether or not this is the Xinaman's Special, you should not be posting in a thread about watches.
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>>18547621
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>>18547631
>please contribute to the thread by asking questions and/or asking for advice
>Please post pics of your watches here; it doesn't matter if it's worth 5$ or 50000$
Thanks for confirming what I had assumed. Found this thing in a drawer and have no idea how it got there.
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Does anyone have an experience with Ball watches? I'm considering buying pic related. It's a big chunker, but it'd be nice to use a vacation watch, because of its world time function and 300m depth rating. It's 14,2mm tall though. My wrist is 17cm.
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>>18547630
> They are all ugly, boring, and/or not much for what you're paying for.
In your opinion, and let's be clear. It's a minority one.
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>>18547640
>your opinion is a minority opinion.
Yes, that's what makes one "not an NPC".
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>>18547642
Or it makes you someone with shit taste.
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>>18547639
Solid but unremarkable. Just be aware they don't have a single original design. Their entire business model is built on copying better and more expensive watches. But unlike Chink replicas they do it legally.
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>>18547642
Not me but he's right.
>>18547640
Just because most people say something doesn't make it true. Most people are uninformed. If you are so easily swayed by marketing and public opinion, then I suggest actually visiting all the boutiques and seeing the differences between all these watches hands-on.
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>a diver watch huh?
>you ever go diving with it?
how do you respond without sounding mad?
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>>18547672
"Yes."
But the actual reason I don't have a diver is because I do dive, and a dive computer is way better.
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>>18547659
> Just because most people say something doesn't make it true.
It doesn't make it false either.
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>>18547683
It's easy to verify anon, just ask why they wear a rolex/genta over the other options available in the market. From the people I know, one got a Daytona from his dad, he doesn't know anything about watches. Another got a RO for his wedding, also no interest in watches. I met a doctor with a RO, he also said it was a gift, tried talking about watches but he said he has no idea, he just wears it since it's what he has. My cousin wears a datejust (gift as well). The two watch autists I know irl have a lot of watches, and no Rolex or Genta (which are just generic slop watches that parents and wives buy for men).
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>>18547698
Your personal anecdote isn't proof. I can do the same, I know many high-end watch collectors who buy rare and independents, they all also own at least one Rolex because they know they are damn good watches. Rolex sell millions of watches each year for just as many reasons.
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Gerald Genta was a revolutionary and the single most important visionary in timepiece design.
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>>18547721
He is also the only watch designer (you) know.
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>>18547751
That's incorrect.
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>>18547721
What exactly did he revolutionize?
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I saw Gerald Genta at a watch boutique in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how amazing it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a nuisance and bother him or ask him to sign my Royal Oak or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued browsing, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my items at the counter, I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Credor Locomotives in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like, “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the watches and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical interference,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each watch and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>18547702
Rolex is the iPod phone of horology. It's OK to admit you fell for the hype, and it's OK for a collector to keep a shitty purchase after knowing better. Clearly your opinions are not grounded in reality since you thought the speedmaster was copying the Daytona. Just go in and try on watches, you'll be really surprised at the things you see. All these totally flat images on brand websites do not actually show how ugly or beautiful different cases are. Even the diameter of a watch can't really be communicated through pictures. Some expensive materials look like cheap plastic, and sometimes the most basic dial has a lot of depth to it. You might lust over a watch for weeks and then be repulsed by it when you see it in person. A lot of the time you'll find that things aren't even the color you thought they were. The Blancpain moonphase disks are so reflective it can be hard to make out the face, blued steel hands on a lange appear black at certain angles, there is so much intrigue in watches that you can only experience in person. If someone does their homework and still wants a Rolex or Genta, then they need to buy some glasses before they buy a watch. But like I said, most Rolex and Genta wearers know nothing about watches. They just get them as gifts or think basketball/tennis == good.
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>>18544950
Lads, I think I’m going to buy a Rolex Submariner 114060
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>>18547785
Holy BASED
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>cheap
>made in Europe*
>in-house movements
>rugged and durable, easy to repair
>cool history
>amphibias have gone to space in soviet times
>tons of designs
>extremely moddable
why is voctok not more popular on the wect?
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>>18547685
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>>18547804
Swiss propaganda.
The mountain jew doesn't want you to know they used to buy russian hairsprings.
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>>18547828
Do you have proofs of this?
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>>18547804
>tons of designs
Not really? They're almost all the same like 2 cases with different bezels and dials.
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>>18547828
>The mountain jew doesn't want you to know they used to buy russian hairspring
Fucking BIG if true
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>>18547046
There once was an avatarfag named reversocel and he clashed hard with bittercel.
Rcel actually was married (which is just inceldom with extra steps in his case) and really didn't like his given name. He also tried to maintain this thin veil of anonymity and denied his avatarfagging behaviour every time he was accused of it. Bear in mind he used to post his watches without context nearly every thread, so he definitely was an avatarfag. His upper class larp behaviour also made him hated by many.
Bittercel became exceedingly good at calling him out every time he popped his head up and eventually he couldn't take it. Bittercel's bants were always too much for him and he couldn't help himself by trying to justify his behaviour. I his last post he wrote an excessive monoloque stating his distaste of 4chan generally (despite previous claims of fitting in here) and literally stormed off to reddit of all places.
After this saga and what I believe to be Bittercel's ultimate victory, both names faded into relative obscurity.
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seiko is the best

simpo as
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>>18547891
I just hate this stupid logo
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>>18547894
ye they do go overboard with the logos
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posting actual dive watches . strange that some don't have crown guards .
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>>18547155
Yes, if you're a normie.
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>>18547649
>Their entire business model is built on copying better and more expensive watches.
This. Every time I see a gentleman wearing a Ball watch, I think, "Why couldn't he just pay a little more for an Omega or Rolex?" The gentleman also exudes "half-ass effort" in his watch selections and life choices.
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>>18547785
With what money?
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>>18547849
There are 23 different designs in the current catalog, and I'm not referring to the different watch faces.
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>>18547569
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>>18547778
>electrical interference
he didnt say that
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>>18547919
>what time is it comrade?
>it's time to work
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>>18547908
Dollars, euros, yen.. Does it really matter?
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my collection over the years
sorry im bad at taking pictures
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What do we think about new GP movement? I like new balance wheel bridge and oscillating weight, but yellow (golden) balance and visible barrel with solarization did make things more interesting
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>>18547972
How do you decide which watch to wear?
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>>18547972
they all look arike
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>>18547983
1 - when going to an event with normies
2 - a lighter titanium version of #3 when im in a zenith mood but don't want to feel the weight
3/4 - my go-tos depending on my mood



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