WATCH THREADWATCH THREADWATCH THREADIf you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18567136
>>18570788How many people do you know of wearing 20-50 year old quartz watches?>you'll service a mechanical watch moreYou're full of shit. Some people don't even service their watches.>>1857082910 years isn't forever. Eventually, probably about 10 years, a quartz movement WILL give out and economically it makes no sense to fix it.Yeah, cheap mechanicals with plastic components aren't worth fixing. I'm talking about ones that are.
>>18571100what an annoying videofuck that pace twitching time lapse I just want to watch it move ffs
>>18571114>WAAAAAH WAAAAAH ME NOT LIKEY WAAAAH WAAAAAH MOOOOOM!!!!!!Grow up. You're embarrassing yourself
>>18571121
>>18571100Very cool, anon. I’d always wondered how that starwheel thing worked
>>18571121Listen, Bittercel. You had fun ruining the last thread, now it’s time to behave yourself.
>>18571112Speaking from personal experience, when I had my first gen Aerospace serviced, they simply replaced the movement entirely.For something like an Aerospace, that’s not a problem, they have millions of spares. For something like an Oysterquartz, this is actually a problem because replacement parts are running out.
Endgame, right here.
>>18571135Nice movement, but don’t get cum colored dial watches.
>>18571131It's basically the same mechanism as Urwerk watches.I love these alternative ways of displaying the time. I'd like to get a jump hour watch at some point.>>18571135Endgame of shitters yeah.
>>18571135Come on, weak trolling, at least put some effort into it.
For me, it's Omega
>>18571159What's your favorite Omega anon?
>>18571100What's your opinion on "TIMEX Atelier"?They are trying to push a quality oriented line, like their own Grand Seiko.The first model, sapphire crystal, "swiss movement"https://timex.com/products/timex-atelier-gmt24-m1a-40mm-swiss-made-automatic-stainless-steel-bracelet-tw2y72300Thoughts?
>>18571167that's the GMT and their second model is the sub picrel.I think they can go somewhere with this. Would love to see a Timex Atelier Marlin with sapphire glass and everything.
>>18571100Wayyyy too soon fucking retard. The old thread is still on page 2.
>>18571172Also the Timex Giorgio Galli released earlier this year, not under the Timex Atelier line but as a limited edition.Titanium, sapphire and so on. Great looking watch but i'm not sure i'd get over the fact that it says Timex on the dial (probably why they created the Atelier line since).
>>18571177also the premium Timex Ironman they released this year for Japan.Timex wants to shift to premium.
>>18571173Keep crying you little bitch, and if you don't like you can still fuck off to the old thread.
>>18571167you can get a $300 microbrand watch with double-domed sapphire and Swiss movement nowadays.
>>18571177Someone posted this the other day and I thought it was cool.
>>18571165The old Seamaster Electric Blue. Probably the prettiest blue dial ever.
>>18571172>Whitebread Five And A Half Fathoms
>>18571179Not trying to nitpick, but I don't think they really want to go premium, they have to. With china undercutting the market, they can't compete on price. Leveraging their name and going a tier or two higher is their only choice. I'm rooting for them, seiko and Casio but I glad China is doing what it's doing. >>18571187Looks like the Hamilton Pulsar Roger Moore wore.>>18571165>>18571165Modern? No time to die. Vintage? Constellation pie pan, gold case with arrowhead markers on an alligator strap with the original hardware. The champagne gold dial is perfection.
>>18571193They go for around 3k with papers too. In almost every way they're better than the sub/gmt of that generation. The milled clasp, the bracelet, looks. Buy one. Do it.
>>18571195>Not trying to nitpick, but I don't think they really want to go premium, they have to. With china undercutting the market, they can't compete on price. Leveraging their name and going a tier or two higher is their only choice.Yeah, it makes sense. But their name "Timex" is not associated with quality, that's the problem.If they dropped the Timex altogether and just created different premium lines like "Marlin Atelier" and just "IronMan" then maybe it would work.But Timex is associated with being cheap and disposable.
>>18571196Yeah, I always have a couple in my watch list.I actually prefer the quartz version. The movement they used back then was a really good one.
>>18571199Yeah I don't see anyone paying premium prices for a watch that says timex anywhere on the dial, but launching a new line - whether or not it says timex anywhere on the dial - is really expensive. Marketing, logistics to get it into stores etc. If they put it in their own stores I don't see anyone walking past indiglos to pay 1-3k for a watch. I don't know what they'd have to do to get those watches into premium jewelers cases. They need to innovate and provide value just above China. Servicing, parts, warranty. Short timex stock I guess.
>>18571202The brosnan smp is a timeless watch for me. People repeat that the bracelet sucks coz it has no taper but it's ultra comfortable. Looks sleek and dressy too when it needs to as well.I haven't looked into the quartz but I might pick one up for my dead. Apparently they're thermally compensated? The set and forget would be ideal for him while still being a nice watch.
>>18571207>>18571202My DAD
>watch says swiss on the dialcertified shitter
>>18571134Yes, and?
>>18571207The brosnan smp is quartz.
>>18571207> Apparently they're thermally compensated?Yes, and they have independently adjustable hour hands so they make handy travel watches too, if you don’t want a GMT watch.
>>18571215Only the goldeneye one. The other 3 movies had the same watch but with a modified eta movement. Runs flawlessly, can be serviced anywhere.
>>18571215I think the first one was (GoldenEye) but didn’t he switch to an automatic for the later movies?
I dislike the Seamaster 300M because of the scalloped bezel. It's the most impractical design for a diver.It sucks Omega keeps pushing it as its Submariner cope, because the brand has a lot of great designs in its archives, like the old Seamaster 300 and the Baby Ploprof.
>>18571207I really like the look of bracelets with no taper. They're more masculine and visually cohesive.
>>18571265I’m with you. A Baby PloProf reissue would be great, assuming they don’t screw everything up by making it 45mm across and 17mm thick.
>>18571298>45mm across and 17mm thick.>100m WR>shiny polish everywhereThat will be 16k + tip + tariffs
As much as I appreciate mechanical movements, I accept that they do not fit my current lifestyle. I am going to reduce my collection to the following two watches:Cartier Tank in yellow gold in quartz Breitling Aerospace Advantage
>>18571340What about a Springu Drivu?
>>18571265There's a rumor that a seamaster 120 reissue is happening.
>>18571346If I don’t wear it, it will run down then I have to re-wind and reset the whole thing. It’s all the inconvenience of mechanical without any of the soul.I wouldn’t mind a 9F but there aren’t any watches that GS makes with that movement that look good.
>>18571351I took your previous post as "I need quartz accuracy" not "I'm not gonna wear my watches." Plenty of watches out there with a 3 or 5 day power reserve, sometimes more.
>>18571349There's also rumors that your mom is on a diet yet here we are.
>>18571349Unfortunately Omega is pretty bad at making reissues.
>>18571351I just use hand-winding watches, wind them once a day and set them to the nearest minute, whether I wear them or not.So they're always ready to go.
I'm going to post a list of words and I want you cunts to post the first watch (brand or model) that comes to your mind for each word.>elegant>robust>versatile>childish>masculine>cartoonish>pretentious>humble>well-balanced>overdesigned>cope>unmoggable
>>18571422F-91w
>>18571422>>elegantCartier Tank Normale>>robustG-Shock>>versatileRolex Explorer>>childishSwatch>>masculineRolex Submariner>>cartoonishthese Konstantin Chaykin watches with a Spongebob face>>pretentiousPatek>>humbleCasio>>well-balancedRolex Explorer or OP>>overdesignedthese grotesque GS chronographs>>copeGrand Soiko>>unmoggableRolex GMT Master II (vintage/neo-vintage only)
>>18571422>>elegantvintage Calatrava>>robustTudor Black Bay pro>>versatileRolex Explorer>>childishRichard Mille anything>>masculineRolex Explorer>>cartoonishthat jew brand that makes themed watches (Godfather watch and so on)>>pretentiousRoyal Oak>>humbleIWC pilot>>well-balancedRolex Explorer>>overdesignedRolex Land dweller>>copeThe whole $500 to $3500 market, anything microshit brand to Tudor. But if i have to name one LORIER, because those are just sad.>>unmoggableRolex Explorer (you can always pretend you're not trying, and it's still a Rolex)
>>18571447Based Explorer appreciator.
>>18571422>elegantPiaget Altiplano>robustPanerai Luminor 112>versatileRolex Datejust>childishSwatch MoonSwatch >masculineOmega Planet Ocean 42mm (1st gen.)>cartoonishAudemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore>pretentiousA. Lange u. Söhne>humbleHamilton Khaki Field Mechanical>well-balancedRolex Submariner 5513>overdesignedAudemars Piguet Code 11.59>copeGrand Seiko>unmoggable Patek Philippe Calatrava 5196g
>>18571447Agree, as long as it’s the Explorer 1016. The nü-Explorers are to the real Explorer what a drag queen is to an actual woman.
>>18571447We get it, your AD made you buy an Explorer to get on the waitlist and now you're trying to fight back the buyers remorse.
>>18571177Nice looking piece I have to say what’s the price tag
>>18571470I think it was only like 450 dollars but it was a limited edition.
>>18571476The current version is available but it’s 1,959 dollars.
>>18571453>>18571430>>cope>Grand SeikoPlease explain this one because Grand Seiko are anything but cope.They have their own personality, they don't copy other brands and they usually have their places in collections alongside Rolex and other brands.People who have a Snowflake wanted a snowflake.Cope watches are the one you get rid of when you can have the genuine model you wanted, because you just bought them as a cheap copy of the original.
>>18571478It’s not that the watches themselves are good or bad (aside from their QC issues, they’re generally well-made, though a little overpriced) it’s why the owners buy them.The stereotype of the Grand Seiko owner being unable to go five minutes without bringing up Rolex out of the blue is absolutely real. As soon as Grabnd Seiko was dubbed “Japan’s answer to Rolex” they instantly and irreversibly became a cope brand.Which, again, is a shame because they could easily stand on their own merits.
>>18571478>Cope watches are the one you get rid of when you can have the genuine model you wanted, because you just bought them as a cheap copy of the original.Not necessarily. It’s not just a cheaper version. It can be something you buy because you feel rejected. GS and Rolex are often compared against one another. They’re priced about the same, but once a guy realizes he’s never getting that GMT2, he buys a GS GMT and then makes “Rolex is for NPCs” his entire personality.
>>18571486>once a guy realizes he’s never getting that GMT2, he buys a GS GMTI've literally never seen that happen. They buy a Tudor BB GMT as a cope for the GMT 2, never a GS.
>>18571478You have no idea how many people walk into a boutique, ask for a Rolex and are told>Oh sorry sir, we don't have anything in stock for you right now, but we can show you some other watches if you likeAnd then it's basically Omega, Grand Seiko, Tag, IWC or Breitling (aka the galaxy of cope).Also as this anon said >>18571484, Grand Seiko owners won't shut up about Rolex. It's not just here, but also watch boards, Youtube comments, etc.
>>18571488The Tudor is the “can’t afford” kind of cope.The GS is the “they wouldn’t sell me one” cope.Two different kinds of cope.
>>18571494Tudor actually has better build quality and design than Rolex, though.
>>18571494An acquaintance of mine who works at a Tudor/Rolex AD confirmed me the average Tudor buyer is a young guy (20 something) who wants a transition watch before getting a Rolex.People who buy Rolex are usually above 40.
>Go to Invicta dealer>They only sell Invicta>Invicta always in stock>Receive free Invicta foosball table and bar stool with $20.00 purchase>Leave wearing Invicta sunglassesbased
>>18571505>Go to Invicta dealerThe watch battery change kiosk in the mall?
>>18571484>The stereotype of the Grand Seiko owner being unable to go five minutes without bringing up Rolex out of the blue is absolutely real.This. If GS fans could control themselves people would compare GS to Rolex any more than people compare Breguet to Rolex.
>>18571509*would NOT compare
>>18571509GS is clearly positioned as a competitor to Rolex.>stainless steel sports watches on bracelet>divers, chronographs and GMTs>6-15k price pointYes they make a few dress watches but their core collection is obvious Rolex cope.
>>18571494There’s also possibly a third kind of cope: wanting to be a special boy.For example, guys who buy a GO SeaQ simply because they want something no one else has.
>>18571506
>>18571517this but unironically
>>18571517>>18571537post one pretty invicta that's not the rolex cope
>>18571538>pretty
Waiting for the 38mm
>>18571484>reddit spacingYou have to go back.
>>18571552Damn, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone use that one in at least five years.
>>18571486>getting a Grand Seiko as Rolex cope is the same as the WMAF pipelinei should stop browsing /int/
>>18571112>How many people do you know of wearing 20-50 year old quartz watches?bandwagon>You're full of shit.ad hominem>Some people don't even service their watches.anecdotal evidence, survivorship bias>Eventually, probably about 10 years, a quartz movement WILL give out and economically it makes no sense to fix it.hasty generalization>Yeah, cheap mechanicals with plastic components aren't worth fixing. overwhelming exception>I'm talking about ones that are.shifting the goalposts
>>18571484Could they though? Having gaps in the bracelets you could drive a truck through and no toolless micro adjustment on clasps until 2025 is standing on your own merits?I've seen this cope more often lately and I just don't understand it. People go "yeah the bracelets suck but the dials are good!" Maybe that would be a fair point if we were talking aboit regular seikos under $1000 or I otherwise wasn't paying money for the bracelet, but I am, and I'm not paying rolex prices for a watch on a shit bracelet when I could buy a rolex and get a watch with an excellent bracelet and everything else is good also. Not to bring rolex into it again but it's the most obvious competitor of we're talking about bracelets.
>>18571607Wtf do you mean bandwagon? If we're talking about the longevity of quartz watches I think it's valid to consider how often you actually see old quartz watches still wearable and running. I've gotta say I almost never see people wearing a quartz watch older than 10 years unless it is a high end luxury piece, and even then like we already said it's almost definitely not running the original guts so disposable bullshit was still disposed of rather than fixed.
If you need more you're stupid and gay
>>18571159Only if it's '90s or earlier
SINN CAN'T STOP WINNING
>>18571100So I own a citizen copejust in gold color.The metal links are messed up. What sort of strap should I get for it and what colour?
No avatardoshit ITT. Sorry pal. Access limited.
>>18571715Another jubilee - you can reuse the factory end-links and upgrade to solid links with screws
>>18571422>>elegantCartier>>robustG-Shock>>versatileA vintage time-only steel Bulova or Seiko>>childishG-Shock (unfortunately)>>masculineG-Shock again>>cartoonishCasio GA-V01>>pretentiousMoser, Rexhep Rexhepi, Patek Philippe>>humbleA good Pobeda>>well-balanced34 mm vintage watches>>overdesignedGrand Soiko>>copeOmega>>unmoggableEbel 1911 "El Primero"
Well?
>>18571767Well what?
Check out what came in the mail.
>>18571517Based Invictuh
>phone recommends articles about new watches releases. >SEIKO is re-releasing an old classic for cheap, Casio steps up their game with their new launch as a reasonable price, This quirky little indie brand is making a sweet watch for a bargain!>check it out>always $1000+ severely limited release, sometimes even several grand.
>geriatric magnification bump>atrocious Mercedes logo hour hand>le slab case>logo keeps getting biggerThese things are never addressed. The real reason Rolex is so popular is because it's a part of Jewish culture. Judeophiles love Rolex, that's why it's especially popular with middle-class people in the USA and India.
>>18571422>elegantJLC MUT Perpetual>robustFifty Fathoms>versatileSantos Dumont>childishSwatch>masculineBreitling>cartoonishRM>pretentiousAnything with diamonds on the dial or case.>humbleTourbillion not visible on the dial side>well-balancedLange 1>overdesignedGenta>copeTudor>unmoggableYour favorite watch.
Saw an old boomer in the grocery store wearing what I thought was an old aluminum bezel omega seamaster but it just as easily could have been an invicta shitter.
>>18571835and my autistic ass has been debating with myself for a month now whether I should get another Vostok. It costs 120€ shipped. I have 60k in my "spending" account.
>>18571195>Modern? No time to dieSuch a nice looking watch for such a shitty movie
invicta poor diver
Kofe time.
>>18571422>elegantCartier Tank>robustETA age Panerai>versatileUnironically Casio>childishFlik Flak>masculinePloprof>cartoonishSwatch, in a good way>pretentiousModern Patek>humbleCasio>well-balancedI wish I knew>overdesignedAP Code 420:69>copeWho cares>unmoggableMechanical/automatic Cartier
>>18571943>elegantInvicTank
>>18571822Is this the thinnest watch with a unidirectional bezel in the world?
My nigga Eric Zemmour wearing a nice Breguet.
>>18572039>hey there, fellow Frenchman, he he
>>18572039>niggaThe N-word is racist, you ESL peasant.
>>18572065https://voca.ro/18C6kLZiWBNY
>>18572045Zemmour is based and is Breguet is cool.
>>18572079No, he's not, he's some "judeo-christian civilization" crook, there was never such thing. There's christian civilization, period.As for the watch, it's funny to know that you can wear a 20K Breguet in Paris (or London) with no problem because nogs don't care, they know it's unsellable. But if you wear a Rolex half the price, they will cut your arm for it.
It's time to stop. And by stop I mean moving on to the 70s quartz
>>18572095Based
>>18571844>versatile>Santos DumontIt goes with pretty much any fit, but I don’t think 30m WR is sufficient for a watch to be considered versatile The Santos de Cartier in the non-retarded medium size is pretty much the same when you put it on a strap and it’s got 100m WR.
>>18572100The "WR doesn't mean what it says" myth needs to stop. To write 30m WR on the dial, you need to test a batch of your watches at 3 bars of pressure.And "dynamic pressure" from movement is a meme.
>>18572107Thank you. I’d been screaming this for years. At least one of you has learned.
I don’t really like the Cartier Santos. There are too many conflicting design elements on this watch. The central second hand, the steel case, and the crown guard give off modern sports watch vibes. The square dial and roman numerals clearly reference the Cartier Tank, which came decades before the idea of a stainless steel sports watch even existed.Also the more I think about it, the more I dislike the idea of a "dressy sports watch" with a lot of polished surfaces. I prefer the OP and the Explorer to the DJ for that reason: they're almost entirely brushed.
>>18572121Bait
>>18572107>"dynamic pressure" from movement is a memeGood thing nobody in this shit show understands this, otherwise you'd get slaughtered.
>>18572123I know it's a thing, but it doesn't increase the pressure on the watch by 2 orders of magnitude.It's closer to a few %.
>>18572121the Santos is just a Nautilus/Royal Oak cope. sad!
>be me>love pizza>love RolexWhat's stopping me from getting an Air King Domino's?
Shit thread full of retarded takes.
post naked twinks
>>18572141The fact that 90% of Domino’s Air-Kings are fake. It’s very easy to take a cheap (they could be had for around 2k just a few years ago) silver dial 5500 and print a logo on the dial, then turn around and sell it for much, much more.
>>18572144Honestly you can customize any Rolex you want. It's just a fucking watch. Open that thing and draw your initials on the dial, who fucking cares?
>>18572149fashion emphasizes conformity
>>18572149
>>18572121I don't like the the Santos de Cartier either, the bracelet looks terrible. Love the Santos Dumont though.
>>18572149It’s not customizing, it’s buying a fake. A Dominos AK costs double or triple a normal AK.
>>18572164Cartier made a mistake, I think, by making the S-D so good so soon after the Santos came out.The S-D is so refined that the Santos looks clunky by comparison.Then again, the Santos is pretty clunky. It’s downright svelte compared to the grotesque Santos 100, but it’s still not as streamlined as the original Santos Carrée.
>>18572159Fashion is self-expression. The majority of the people want to express their excellence at conformity.
>>18572165>if I draw a cock on my watch it means it's fakeok retard
>>18572180>when retards attempt trolling by being extra retarded.
>>18572165It’s pretty obvious that this kid doesn’t know what the Dominos Air-King was. The fact that he’s being a little shit suggests he’s American, because boys who grow up knowing their fathers are able to behave themselves.
Anybody ever owned a 38mm Navitimer? I'm a 6 inch wristlet and I've been hunting a Speedy Reduced, but stumbled on these in the process.
>>18572165>A Dominos AK costs double or triple a normal AK.If it’s got papers, it’s ten times more these days.
>>18572197 If it's 47mm lug to lug it will look ok (albeit on the bigger side), over 48mm it will be obviously too big.
>>18572197They’ve got a 44mm lug to lug, and 13mm thick isn’t that bad for an automatic chronograph. It should fit you well, especially on a strap.
Just got it today. Took 9 months, no previous purchases or BS. In my way to narrow down to a 4 watch collection. Dress, leisure, daily, digital.
>>18572197Try a regular Speedy. They're advertised as 42mm because of the crown guard but in reality they feel more like a 39 or 40mm (compact lug to lug + small dial opening).
>>18572219Nice. Enjoy the Explorer anon. The best modern Rolex.
>>18572219What are the other 3 making the final cut?
>>18572226Im still figuring it out. At the moment im leaning towards:Dress: JLC Master Hometime.Leisure: ExplorerWorking time: Hamilton Khaki.Digital for when needed: Gshock Gulfman or 7800...
>>18572219Nice. Good choice.>9 months Huh. That’s on the long side for a plain old Exp1. Is it a small AD? 9 months is Submariner territory where I am.
>>18572231You can compress that further.The Hamilton and the Rolex are now redundant. Get rid of the Hamilton unless you really love it. In situations where the Rolex would risk damage, so would the Hamilton, so you’d wear the GShock instead.Also kind of strange that your largest, thickest watch is your dress watch. (Though I do love the Master Hometime. I used to own one myself.)
>>18572219>humiliation ritual for a shitterlol
>>18572219based choice
>>18572238How's your Copehard doing anon?
>>18572233Not a very big city. Also they didnt know me prior. And, if that makes any sense, i feel i didnt give them the "correct" adress for the customer file (used an apartment in a just average area of the city). Maybe should have chosen something more fancy.
>>18572237I prefer to fly a bit more under the radar at work, and i dont mind damaging the Hamilton really.But you are right. I could even be happy with only the Explorer and a Gshock probably... but i dont want to rush it and regret it later.
>>18572231I have the Explorer and an Hamilton Khaki FIeld myself, an IWC.My fourth watch will probably be a vintage Grand Seiko next time i visit Japan.
Post a watch only (You) know exists.
>>18572270
>>18572272that brand is never talked about in the anglo influencer sphere, but they have their style, and the movement inside is Lajoux Perret
>>18572270Vacheron Constantin Phidias Chronomètre Royal.Weird early 90s design. Pre-Overseas.
>>18572270Rolex 9083, super obscure reference from the 1950s.Stainless steel integrated bracelet sports watch, released 20 years before the Royal Oak.
>>18571100Thoughts on muhle glashutte for a dress option?
>>18572320Which model specifically? The Panova line can look dressy. Not super-formal, but certainly reasonable in a semi-formal setting.
>>18572219>9 months for an Explorer 1lmao
Why are trans men so fashionable?
>>18572219>the Rolex buying experiencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A
>>18572337>british humour
>>18572337In fact it was more like "hi, id like to try some Rolexes" , hot lady "sure, would you like a drink? Coffer, Champagne, tea?"Tried 5 watches. Had a drink, and a nice talk with the lady."Id like to order a Explorer then""Sure, let me fill the file for you. It may take time, but we will call you, no buying compromise tho."And 9 months later, the same lady called. Another drink, another talk with her and a nice guy that wore a Tudor Sub 79090, and got the watch.Slow, but nice. Didnt know me prior, didnt buy any BS filler.
>>18572320pretty sure they're all 40mm+ like all German brands which is comical on a dress watch
>>18572012why is the dial sideways
>>18572336makes their tiny wrists look a lot bigger
>>18572149Based.
>>18572351You wear it on your cock.
>>18572219
>>18572343CRINGE AS FUCK
>>18572360The world is cringy, but pleasant at the same time, son.
>>18572343When did you have to pay? When you reserved the watch or when you picked it up?
>>18572270Universal Geneve Ferrovie Dello Statoissued for the Italian rail operators alongside Perseo watches
Man.. bitterturd really is on a roll today.
>>18572341It's actually a hundred times funnier than what people these days laugh to on ShitTok and JewTube
>>18572365This is not the thread you're invited to post in, you fucking cockroach.
>>18572362When you pick it up. And if by the time it arrives you no longer want it, you pay nothing.You dont have to make a deposit to order it, so you cant lose anything.
>>18572372I guess when they make a million watches a year, they don't really have to worry about running out lolIt's a weird mix of zero scarcity + long wait times. But as long as you like it, that's what's important.
>>18572377Well also, if you don’t want it 9 months later, they’ll call the next person on the list. Selling it is not difficult.
Leave it to the chinese to make some of the most interesting low price watches that no one will ever buy due to crappy branding. Pic related has to be a brand that's around only to sell parts to other brands. If they werent named as retarded as they are I'd probably have boxes of these just to keep around.
>>18572371Relax, bittercel, I'm not whoever the fuck you think I am.
>>18572380Considering how popular Rolex is, they probably made you wait so long because they only receive X pieces per model per year and some were already committed. It's not as nefarious as it seems.
>>18572377I could have had the S&G version with close to no wait.They want to sell more gold and less steel. Mekes sense for them.And yeah, loving it.
>>18572385Yes you are. Now leave.
>>18572388There’s no one posting in the other thread. So naturally he’s going to follow us here, unaware that he was literally one of four posters who this thread was created to avoid.
>>18572387It’s probably more the case that fewer people want to have the two tone version, so the wait list is shorter. When they receive their allocation, they don’t have as many people to call.I remember reading somewhere that the two-tone Explorers are the least popular of the professional line by some margin. It makes sense . The Explorer has never been positioned as a luxury watch and getting a two tone version of an entry level piece just reeks of trying to appear wealthier than you are.
>>18572390Funny how whenever one avaturd is not around the other thread dies and bittercel has to fill his yapping quota itt.
The two-tone Explorer would be a lot better with brushed center links.
>>18572387The gold watches cost the exact same to build (except for the negligible value of a free grams of gold) but they sell them at a huge premium. Of course they make you wait for the steel model which "only" has a margin of about 10x the production cost.
>>18572270The Patek Philippe Cobra.
>>18571265Omega did what Rolex couldn't. They said "fuck it, nobody's buying this to dive anyway, let's just go all out on design without thinking about practicality and as cherry on the cake they gave rolex the middlefinger with the he valve, because again, no one in their right mind would actually use it for diving so let's just make it an extra screwdown crown instead of some ridiculous mechanism.".Had two and will probably buy another one some time.
These avaturds..Are they in this thread with you?
>>18572396Remember that margins are calculated in terms of percentage, not in absolute values.Assume a 100% markup to cover everything plus profit.A watch that costs the company 100.- to make will be sold for 200.-Now add 100.- worth of gold to the watch for the two tone bezel.With the same markup, that watch will be sold for 400.-If they only sold on absolute markups, say, 100 dollars per watch, I’m no one would make gold watches since the profit margin would be razor thin.
>>18572385You have to fuck off, shitface. You're fucking hated.
>>18571422>elegantUltra thin handwound yellow gold dresswatch with an off white enamel dial, brand doesn't matter>robustGshock>versatileA waterproof steel watch with sapphire crystal no larger than 38mm>childishAny plastic watch that isn't black>masculineA small watch>cartoonishSame as childish>pretentiousAnything bought for validation>humbleAnything purely bought for your own satisfaction/enjoyment>well-balancedVery personal>overdesignedAnything made after the seventies>copeVery personal>unmoggableF91w
NEVERUSETHEBASESTRAPEspecially if its a bracelet, lol
>>18572405Christopher Ward made waves by promising they will never sell a watch for more than 3x what it costs to build. That's seen as an ambitious price target in the watch world.Luxury watches usually cost 5-6x their manufacturing cost and Rolex marks up the most, with about 10x for their steel watches and 20+x for precious metal models.They've perfected cutting cost by leveraging their scale and re-using parts in different models, without compromising build quality, so they get away with it.
>>18572219Congrats. I just picked up an Explorer on Monday. Took about 2 months for me.
>>18571638I stopped needing altogether.
>>18572475Your reason for not getting the Meister?Anyways that is a nice watch, wear it in good health, fren.
>>18572475You're still loving the junhans? Do you think you'd like a nomos or is junghans better?
>>18572197I'd get that over da moon npc watch any day
>>18572516explain the functions
>>18572520Pilot shit who cares
>>18572520Hours, minutes, running seconds for timeChronograph function for elapsed time.The slide rule requires some practice to learn, but it’s basically an analog calculator for calculating things in terms of time, distance, fuel consumption, speed.I don’t know if they still do but Breitling used to publish user manuals for the slide rule bezel.The bezel itself really isn’t anything special. It literally is just a tiny slide rule bent into a circle. Nearly completely useless for non math- or aviation-nerds.
>>18571767Shit
>>18572520Are you genuinely asking or is that a challenge?It's basically a chronograph with a sliderule for making calculations on the bezel.
>>18572241Good thanks
>>18572532Nobody here realises how special that watch is, which makes it that much more awesone. It's glorious.
>>18572322I like the teutonia II chronograph. >>18572350why is 40mm your limit on a dress watch? I'd put it a bit higher and even then would depend on the watch.
>>18572553You should post it more in /wt/. I bet they’ll even give you a name like Chadpard or something.Not that we don’t like it, but you’ve kind of ceased to add anything to the discussion.
>>18572553What's special about it?
>>18572554That chronograph is probably inappropriate for a dress watch. The issue is not the size (assuming your wrist is appropriately sized for it) but rather the thickness. It’s nearly 16mm thick. That simply will not work if you’re wearing a shirt with properly fitted cuffs. The watch itself is cool, but not for your intended purpose. There’s a reason that dress watches tend to be small and thin compared to everyday pieces.
>>18572563It…it just is, is that OKAY?
>>18572565M1-30-45-LB is listed at 11.9mm and 39mm diameter.
>>1857255440mm is not even my limit for a dress watch it's already too large, unless it's a very complicated watch with a full calendar or something like that but then the line between dress watch or not becomes murky.A dress watch is typically very simple, two or three hands, monochrome dial, thin bezel. At 40mm the proportions just don't work, too much empty space, gives off dinner plate vibes especially with a light dial. This size works on divers, GMTs, chronographs, complicated watches where the large dial is justified by how busy it is or to stay proportional with the thick bezel.A lot of brands have definitely lost the know-how to make thin watches but the current case sizes are purely trend chasing, small watches are seen as feminine so they don't sell because of insecure sandniggers and chinks and overweight americans. There's nothing technically stopping brands from making cases that actually fit the movement inside.
>>18572561It's not my watch.>>18572563Seek and you shall find.
>>18572572Oh woops, I did say the chronograph. Meant to say the chronometer. Yeah, that one is thick.
>>18572578Ok, yeah. That one is better. The lugs and crown are a little thick and clunky for a dress watch but I don’t think anyone would really care, especially if you only get dressed up a few times per year. No sense in buying an elegant piece that you wear once per year.If you kept the gator strap nice and got a chunky saffiano strap in a medium brown, then would make a really nice daily wear watch too.
>>18572573The ideal dial size is supposed to be 29 or 30mm.
>>18572505Not a fan of big lugs, fat or otherwise.
>>18572520It’s literally ad advanced calculator. You can do high-level maths with it. Autism stuff.
>>18572683>high levelSort of? Not really? You can pretty quickly do unit conversions and simple multiplication and division, but you can't get precise calculations with numbers larger than 2 digits if they're not multiples of 10. Which you wouldn't really need a calculator to do in the first place.
>>18572708https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GlX01j1sNvo
>>18572714I'm not spending 8 minutes trying to figure out what your issue is, can you use your words?
>>18572714Use your navitimer bezel to solve 453 x 323
What's the max you would pay for the following?- Digital quartz- 2mm thick- Modern and elegant display (not 7 segment casio style)- 500 bar water resistance- Titanium with Gorilla Glass- Alligator leather strap- 10 yr battery life, changeable with screwdriver
>>18572807Based on the strap and WR, $700But if the design is cool, perhaps much more.
>>18572813What if it doesn't have a light?
>>18572807ALL of my money, since the material science and battery tech involved would revolutionize every aspect of life and reverse-engineeeing it could make me a billionaire.
>>18572823so about 40€
>>18572807>2mm thickNothing. Also shoo-shoo smart"watch" lover.
>>18572820That seems a bit inconvenient for using it at depth, but still I'd have to see the case design and colors.
>>18572829What if it's literally called "dumb watch dot co"?
>>18572832If you're at depth, you're likely holding a proper flashlight which you can use to illuminate the watch face.
>>18572846If you're at depth, you're also wearing a diving computer and any watch you wear additionally is just a LARP.
>Buy plain ol' silver Rolex Oyster Perp with green face>Buy vintage gold Day Date>Swap the face plates to get gold/green comboProblem, market?
>>18572900Congrats, you destroyed the resale value of both, plus Rolex will refuse to service them and ban you forever.
I'll be honest with you guys. If your watch doesn't say Rolex, Patek, Vacheron, Cartier, JLC, (maybe) Omega and a bunch of other names... Then I'm not interested in what you have to say about horology.I'm sure you're a great guy and all, but yeah... We're not the same you and I.
>>18572901Hahahahahaha RESALE VALUE hahahahahaha "BAN YOU FOREVER" hahahahahaWe're witnessing untold levels of humiliation.
>>18572901Ooooh nooooo I won't get to have Rolex's master watchmakers replace my dial, hands and bezel and but them in factory frankens sold at Phillips' man that really sucks.
>>18572902If your watch isn't made fully in-house by white people, you better shut up and look for another hobby.
>>18572913>slavs>white
>>18572807>- 2mm thickretarded
>>18572900why not just buy invicta?
>>18572924>implyingRussians are direct descendants of ancient Scandinavian nobility. Look up where the "Rus" moniker comes from.
>vintage rolex
>modern rolex
>>18572974but how will people notice me wearing a Rolex if the logo isn't so big they literally had to remove the 12 for it?
>he's still seething about Rolex
>L’ostrica eleganteSo fucking based. This was poetry.
>>18572971>slavs and cumskins>white
>>18572981Me? I love Rolex. Just not the turds. You can keep them.
OK so I was curious about these retarded color schemes that Rolexbros are always talking about "PEPSI, COKE, BATMAN, SPRITE!!!" and I came across the ROOT BEER, the new 2018 one with a black and brown bezel and steel/rose case and bracelet. Despite all the things I dislike about rolex design, I find that the color scheme is really outstanding. The warm tones and especially the rose gold indices look so good. I started actually looking into it and apparently they have some QC issues with the chapter rings and bezels not being aligned.In any case it's probably somewhat easy to get because it resells at the retail price. I will go try one on.
>>18572991I think they have one called “Fart” as well. The Rolex Fart.
Okay but WHY do I like it so so much?
Guys I don't feel so good... I keep seeing misaligned chapter rings on the GMT-Master 2. They didn't have to print ROLEX ROLEX on the chapter ring but once you know to look for it, you see in a lot of reviews that it's misaligned.
>>18572901kek. put me on the screencap
It's so over.
>>18572219Anon... Check your chapter ring, it looks misaligned in this photo.....
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>>18573000You're holding it wrong. There are no misalignments on a Rolex, their build quality is always flawless.If it wasn't, their prices would be ridiculous!
Trying to find an explanation: the ROLEX ROLEX is etched into the case itself, and that is of course done robotically. It seems that mass-producing a million watches a year via mostly automated processes WILL harm quality. Who would have thought?
Well, I guess I'll go for something with a hand-assembled dial and a hand-finished case instead of a LOLEX.
I don’t wear a watch. I don’t like to have shit on my wrists. On my wrists or on my hands. Get the fuck offf of me! Fucking watch take it off me I don’t want it.
>>18573013How do you fuck up alignment by a millimeter with a robot?
>>18573013Yeah, holy shit.
>>18573008>sent from my iphone using tapatalkYep, that's watchuseek alright.
>>18573013>POOLEX POOLEX POOLEX POOLEX
>>18572996Because it’s cool
>>18573030Will I'm sure the laser is accurate given that it's rendering the symbols properly, but the case must be misaligned in the jig. Impossible to correct without a new case. So THIS is the power of LOLEX
>>18572901LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LISTEN TO THIS KEK HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
DO NOT bring up the alignment issues or you will be BANNED from ROLEX.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
*sigh* Another /nawt/, another thread full of some schizo from /wt/ having an argument with himself about Rolex.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCw6BhJVe3kReminder that white people’s craftmanship doesn’t use cult-like sales methods.
>>18573058Not watching that, but also not gambling on getting an aligned GMT-Master 2. I'll stick to gentile watches from now on.
Oh oh oh oohhhhhhahahahahahahahahahaha
fucking poorfaggots seething about rolex again.if you want autistic finishing just buy a grand seiko, faggot. oh and it will never be worth as much or as well known as ROLEX.fucking poorfag.
>>18573057You know what's the most hilarious thing about this whole Rolex shitposting?They're made by grown up men in their 30s or 40s. Think about it: that's pretty much the only demographic with an interest in watches that posts on 4chan. Next time you see a post like this >>18573044, just picture a balding out of shape millennial with a boiling rage for Rolex.
>>18573068Fucking pathetic.This is the poorlex target audience kek.
>elegantReverso>robustGshock >versatileGshock >childishNon black Gshock >masculineGshock >cartoonishNon black Gshock >pretentiousRolex>humbleGshock >well-balancedGshock >overdesignedOmega>coperolex>unmoggableGshock
I was wondering what's up with the seethe, shit posting and lack of watches. Then I remembered this is the "na"wt.
>>18573067>basic alignment >autisticHahahahahaha the cope is astronomical>>18573068Hahaha sorry buddy but us zoomzooms aren't falling for your jewish tricks. The game is up.
>>18573073Go back to your conteinment thread, shitface. You have aids and your parents hated you, remember
>>18573067Post your Gucci loafers, poorfag. I’ll wait.
>>18573075You're 45 years old.
It's okay you don't own a Rolex, dislike Rolex, or even loathe Rolex.Just keep your poorfag opinions to yourself and don't contaminate the space where people actually APPRECIATE Rolex.
>>18573082Where’s your pair of Guccis?
>>18573082For me, it's the little imperfections. The way the robotic arm elegantly misaligns the case before the etching module begins its artisanal work. Like the balance-cock on a Lange, each Rolex rehaut is unique, an imperfect reflection of the robotic hands that brought it to life... SOUL
>guccifuck off and kys fag
>>18573094Lmfao, no need to get angry, poorfag. Just say you don’t have a pair, no one’s compelling you to buy one.You also might want to know that you need to click on the post’s number to reply to another poster, lol.
stop replying to my posts and never do that again in the future.
>>18573068>They're made by grown up men in their 30s or 40s.Yeah. You can tell by how they try to be funny. Their edgelord humor isn’t used by people under 20. It’s barely used by people under 30.
>>18573101Lmfao at this seething poorfag. Where’s your Guccis?
>>18573045You think so? It gives me joy just looking at it
NEW THREAD WHEN!!??
Been a joy reading the personal inner thoughts of olive garden customers, but I think we need to focus on what matters once more.
Rolex on my wristPfeizer in my armIsrael in my heart
>>18573115It’s ok not to wear Guccis, poorfag. We’ll know who you are just by looking at your training shoes.
>>18573115...rehaut alignment
>>18573122What??.. Poorfag.
>>18573113Go eat more poisoned fish, subhuman
>>18573116Makes me smile every time.
>>18573067>if you want autistic finishing just buy a grand seikoHave you ever seen a Grand Soiko IRL? The finishing is appalling. Just google "Grand Seiko bubbling" for a good laugh.
>>18573154>Discussion about rolex>anons bring up GSEvery time
>>18573155>Discussion about Rolex. Rolex fan boy brings up GS.
>>18573154It's unbelievable the lengths people go to cope over the horrible bracelets seiko makes. Why can I see spring bar on your $7k bracelet watch? The bracelet endlink doesn't even look like it's the same color as the case. It's as if no thought whatsoever was put into how the case will transition into the bracelet.
Grand Seiko Snowflake with a bracelet from Rolex is my grail.
>>18573162To GS' credit, they actually show you the spacing between the case and the bracelet on their 3D renders lmao
Hahahahahaha the giga-cope returns.>my favorite watch brand is getting shit on for blatant alignment issues that they say are within tolerances>activate braceletCope.exe
Get back to me when you can't see the spring bar lmfao
>>18573169>An occasional imperfection you'd need a jewelers loupe to see is the same as blatant design and construction failures
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