WATCH THREADWATCH THREADWATCH THREADIf you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18561452
>>18567136nah, that's a shitter thread
>>18567136f-91w chads report in
f91wforver gutman igor w
>>18567171Okay, based, but what is that thing on the bottom left?
>>18567170Yes.
>>18567187i wouldn't worry about it
>>18567171Reporting.
>>18567171Look around my house the other day I found I have 3 of these bastards. LOL.
I recommend not using a f91w as the Op pic, as it seems to attract the avaturdfaggots to the thread.
>>18567283i recommend not being a whiny faggot
>>18567188This is by far the most accurate chart I've ever seen here.
>>18567136
Hey guys. Here's my modest collection.
f-84w is the superior f-91w
Nawtards.. The Casio Chads took over our thread..What's our response?
>>18567414we give up. it's over
>>18567398If you put that out on the curb with a sign "for free", it would still be there a month later.
>>18567414tick tock motherfucker
Soviet shite, cringe or bringe?
>>18567171im not into watches but i have one of those things
>>18567171kofe?
anyone else just waiting for the casio square with MIPs? I don't wanna buy anything else because those screens are sooo much better
The moment you put any watch on your wrist, it becomes a shitter.
>>18567667I would wear this. t. ex soviet
>>18567398What amuses me is the Seiko looks better than the Rolex.10x the price for 3/4 the Quality lel.
>>18567667Old Russian watches seem to be very minimalist. I like it.
which one?i like 1st the mostwearing at work (security guard)open to suggestions for other silver digital watches.
What kind of paint thinner do you have to sniff to buy one of these?
>>18567884bottom left but it's all shit add $100 more and get a normal quartz seiko/orient on a good bracelet
such as
>>18567900It's not paint, it's "colored" that makes you buy these.
>>18567414Skmei backlight
>>18567414
>>18567739I was gonna get one, but the limited UFA Grand Seiko got announced and I'll likely get that instead. They serve different functions but I put autistic limitations on my "collecting" by having a 4-slot watch box.
>>18567462KEK
>>18567136WatchingTeddy Bulbasaur's first video about his collection in 2017...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrYASvK0dioALL of his watches were cope watches back then. A fucking Orient, a Seiko Alpinist (kek), a Squale (kek), a Rolex in so bad shape that was probably hidden inside someone's rectum during WWII or something... 100% shit collection. Only the Junghans maybe was a keeper.It makes you realize that you should never spend money on these shit models and with all that money just buy ONE new or as new Rolex/Omega/IWC/Breitling, maybe even Tudor.All the rest is just trash that you won't keep 10 years later.
>>18568074This is sound advice. Also makes me wonder how much aggression to certain brands stems from people only exposed to second-hand beaters.
>>18568080Yeah, if you buy a 15 year old Rolex with a beat up bracelet, you will think that it's shit and you won't want to buy another one.The perfect path to watch collecting imo is:Casio f91 or g-shock > then maybe one sub 1k watch (not four of them just ONE) > then a Rolex in condition as new.
>>18567462Quite literally.
>>18567878a Rolex like that is around $50 from your local gypsy market.
>>18568083I unironically started with a F91w before getting an F94w, and my first big spend was a Speedmaster cal1861, because between Omega, Breitling, and Rolex, it was my favorite design (specifically the dial) and then I soon fell in love with how it looked on straps. Later on I obviously learned more about different brands and the industry, but looking back it'll always be my favorite because I bought it prior to being indoctrinated by the "watch community" about brand value and history.
>>18568074Letting alone the fact that I hate that trust fund baby faggot and I find almost all those watches incredibly ugly, you've spoken hectolitres of liquid bullshit. First of all, all those brands that you list like a parrot in its cage, Rolex, Omega, IWC, Breitling, sell solely and exclusively soulless garbage nowdays. The reason why a watch geek chases vintage pieces is because they have stories to tell, they're charged with mystery and soul. Any pre-80s mechanical watch (Universal Genéve, Enicar, Record, Minerva, Gallet, Omega, Eterna, Mido, Eberhard, Ebel, Breitling, Lanco, Longines, Lemania, Angelus, Gruen, Venus, Vulcain, Titus, Technos, Ulysse Nardin, even the Soviet brands) is infinitely more charmful and authentic as far as the object "watch" in itself is concerned. Want a modern watch that won't die? Get a Casio, simple as. We got there, that's what we have now. A Rolex is a cope for what watches once were. Literally. A soulless piece of shit that even the Chinese now can mog.Bulbasaur's collection is shite, but that Rolex still looks good on his wrist. The Constellation is a classic, a beautiful one whose vibes no modern Omega or Longines is even remotely able to convey. They try every single year with new releases inspired by the past and they fail like miserable clowns. Ever wondered why this vintage revival? Why people are more interested in vintage watches? Why prices on Chrono24 have skyrocketed since the days when you could get an Omega for 60 bucks? Because all they can do today is monstrous 40 cm turds which even a child can tell are vain attempts to ape the past. So cringe. His Junghans is nice, and the Seiko Alpinist can be exactly that one-watch-and-never-buy-again you're advocating for, except it comes for a realistic price, something that the toxic Swiss marketing doesn't allow anymore even if they produce their shit in China for one fiftieth of the price you're gonna pay like a cuck. And Squale is a great brand, go check one irl.
>>18568131>Genéve*GenèveYou don't buy someone else's soul. People who bought a watch in 1960 bought it brand new, then what they did with their watch gave soul to it. But for that, you don't rotate 10 shitter watches, you buy one (to 2 or 3) great watch that you wear everyday and that is valuable enough to be serviced (Alpinists are not). And Rolex is the definition of soul, almost 100% of it is in house.
>>18568144>People who bought a watch in 1960 bought it brand new, then what they did with their watch gave soul to it.That's not how it went. Let me break it to you, since you seem to be too ignorant to understand the difference. If you walk into a long-established watchmaker's shop (there are thousands in all of Europe, still active) the chances you can get your hands on fund of store watches is pretty high. You can ask, if they don't keep them in the display window. Now, not only they still run like new, but they are a perfect example and the ultimate living proof of the fact that watches were better back then. When one says "soul" it is not necessarily meant as "scuffs and patina". It's your mistake to assume so. The soul was in the design itself, simpler, smaller, prettier. It was the whole of the smallest details to make you pick a watch over another, unlike today where you see thousands of different designs but they're all bloated, noisy, tryhard. Looking at modern watches is like looking at a room full of smug retards screaming at each other to win something. The same as pop music, the same as contemporary architecture, the same as social media behavior. Old watches were humble and elegant, just like the style of menswear before we ran out of money and imagination.>you buy one great watch that you wear everyday and that is valuable enough to be servicedYou can also buy one vintage watch, great or not (you just have to like it) and service it once every two or three years. If all people were to own a Rolex (also, kek, it would be always the same model, the Datejust) the world would be completely devoid of variation and the watch "hobby" wouldn't even exist.Also, your whole argument is retarded. "Bro just buy one Rolex and you're set lol". Do you have any idea how many people spend that amount of money and then regret it because it's literally the most boring watch ever? There are more Rolexes for sale on Chrono24 than any other brand on the planet.
The humble brown wristband mod.
>>18568175at least get a band that fits, instead of forcing through one that's too big and fraying the sides.
>>18568180>he thinks thats me lol
>>18568169>The soul was in the design itself, simpler, smaller, prettier. It was the whole of the smallest details to make you pick a watch over anotherRolex Explorer are the same than they were 50 years ago. Rolex Datejust are the same than 80 years ago.IWC Pilots are the same than they were 60 years ago. Cartier tank are the same than they ever were.... and so on, i never said it was only Rolex.Also, they all exist in 36mm. Where you in the coma for the last 5 years? Small watches have been back for a good time now.
>>18567900you could say that about all watches in that price range
>>18568199Buying one watch for 4000€ makes more sense than buying 20 microshitters for 200€ each, trying to find one that "punches above its price range".
>>18568169>There are more Rolexes for sale on Chrono24 than any other brand on the planet.Yeah I'm pretty sure there's a direct correlation between the number of Rolexes available on the #1 watch marketplace and the fact that Rolex produces 3 to 20 times more watches than all of its direct competitors.
>>18568193>Rolex Explorer are the same than they were 50 years ago.No, they're not.>Rolex Datejust are the same than 80 years ago.No, they're not.>IWC Pilots are the same than they were 60 years ago.Shit brand, never seen that model so idk.>Cartier tank are the same than they ever were.True, that's the only one you could get right. And yet, if one person were to buy a vintage Tank for half the current price (ridiculous and bloated, obviously), I would only say it's up to them to find out if they did the right thing or not. I'm not judgemental.
>>18568199At least Tudor for that price would not have a $3 quartz module inside.
>>18568207So, is Rolex a richfag brand that only successful people can get? It seems not. Is Rolex the definitive watch that everyone wants to keep forever? It seems not. Enough said.
>>18568212>No, they're not.They are, they just had maybe 5 to 10% incremental changes.Learn more about watches, you sound very uneducated.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lukpuN6CAWE
>>18568218You know what? I can endure a retard, but I'm not here to endure shitposting. Keep coping, I guess.
>>18568220The albino dial and the one without numerals are outliers in the Explorer line and history.The Explorer is basically the same watch than it was in 1953.
>>18568227
>>18568215doesn't offer anything a $200 seiko doesn't
>>18568220>logo is getting bigger each genSays all you need to know about the brand and its customers
I get bullied all the time but I don't care, I like it. Strap is getting a little worn out, thinking of going with a red / white / navy striped one next.
>>18568235might as well tattoo "VIRGIN" on your forehead.
>>18567136Sup
>>18568216>So, is Rolex a richfag brand that only successful people can get?But no one said that lmao. Even my normie friends know there are brands a lot more prestigious than Rolex. You really don't need to make things up to by angry about you know>Is Rolex the definitive watch that everyone wants to keep forever?Again, no one said that. If you're happy with an Omega, IWC, JLC or whatever then good for you.What you can't deny though is that Rolex has produced millions of watches over the years and millions of people have been wearing them daily for decades. The brand has a well earned reputation of reliability, and is even recommended by other watchmakers. Not to mention their designs are iconic and have been copied millions of times. So yeah, for a lot of people (including collectors, watchmakers, etc) Rolex is kind of the definitive brand in the sense that if you need only one watch then it's the safest and most reasonable thing to get.
>>18568232Indeed
>>18568243Your Bozo tie doesn't match the rest of the outfit (I'll admit it matches your Bozo watch though)
>>18568242jokes on you I've had sex fourteen times with FIVE different women
>>18568247This idiot doesn't know what's marketing, kek. Someone please explain it to him.
>>18568216>Is Rolex the definitive watch that everyone wants to keep forever?Yes, it pretty much is, for normal people (non flippers, non obsessed people with dozens of watches).If it's not then no other brand is either.
>>18568252They probably didn't like it, you don't have a high rate of return.
>>18568254Pic related is (You).
>>18568255Browse the internet for ten (10) minutes and I guarantee you'll find hundreds of stories of Rolex owners who got tired of their watch and sold it away to get something better, vintage or not. Rolex is babby's first showoff watch and nothing else. At some point you even get bored of showing off.Good luck with "the call", bub.
>>18568261you can find the same stories about every other bran, what's your point?
>>18568261>look on the internet, you'll find literally whateverThis has to be the saddest, most desperate argument I've read in a while kek
>>18568252That's so weird to keep track of. Had sex with ex wife thousands of times.
>>18568273Having sex with the same woman for more than 5 times just becomes sad.
>>18568272>everyone in the world has to buy a rolex because I say so!And the scenario coming out of this is not sad, right?
>>18568277>he keeps making things up in his mind to be angry aboutYou're just weird man.
>>18568277Weak strawman.The original post was literally: >buy ONE new or as new Rolex/Omega/IWC/Breitling, maybe even Tudor.
>>18568279You came into a thread where watches are discussed for passion and you told people not to buy anything else than the f-91w and then a Rolex as the only correct step. Do you realize how much of a gullible retard you are? You will go on ad infinitum despite the fact that millions of people follow that retarded advice, waste lots of money for a watch they don't like, and try to sell it on a market that is saturated with Rolexes, so they will never even sell it. You're just a retard, anon.
>>18568282You're trying to change the cards now?>Casio f91 or g-shock > then maybe one sub 1k watch (not four of them just ONE) > then a Rolex in condition as new.
>>18568285unhinged and mentally chalenged
>>18568287Bro, you've been banned dozens of times for your shitposting compulsion, go to bed, it's past midnight in Kazakhstan.
>>18568285>You came into a thread where watches are discussed for passion and you told people not to buy anything else than the f-91w and then a Rolex as the only correct stepBut that's not me. And then again, literally nobody said that. Show me the post right fucking now or your mom will die in her sleep tonight.>market that is saturated with Rolexes, so they will never even sell it.Rolexes are literally the easiest watches to sell.
>>18568286It can be an Omega/IWC/Breitling/Tudor/Zenith (...) anything worth getting serviced for 50 years, for the simple reason that a few services would cost you more than the original watch otherwise.A Seiko Alpinist isn't worth it, it's not a keeper for life. An Orient Bambino isn't. An Eterna, an Eberhard, an Ebel,or whatever other shit ou listed, isn't.Sorry poorfag, keep seething.
>>18568301You don't even know who you're talking to, Saar.
>>18568215Exactly, it would have a more expensive movement with shittier accuracy than the $3 quartz module. In comparison the g shocks are more worth.
>>18568301post your rolex
Buy one Rolex.Buy two.
>>185683052 sec
>>18568308Was this one 34mm? OP dates were so fucking cool, I get that they have rules in place now to differentiate the oyster case lines now but I wish they'd bring the OP dates back.
>>18568305post your Ebelrhart
>>18568315they say 33mm even, weirdhttps://bid.igavelauctions.com/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&auction_uid1=5555229
>>18568315At least offer the datejust in old OP date sizes with OP dials as options. The new pastel OP dials like pistachio and navy would look so good in datejusts.
post your poolex
>>18567270>not even a day date
>>18568247Rolex's new movements have fundamental design flaws
>>18568565People have been saying this for years and they've sold multiple millions of watches in this time and yet only a handful of customers who have had complaints are being boosted by a few nerds online who haven't had any personal issues with it. If it was really a rampant issue wouldn't there literally be millions of people bitching about it at all hours of the day online?
>>18568627Fuck off retard
>>18568646I take that as a concession.
>>18568646Majority of rolex owners today don't track the accuracy of their watch. My buddy who was gifted the solid gold blue bezel one is surprised it stops running every few days. They wouldn't know what +2-2 means. You can enjoy playing humiliation ritual games with salesmen for a broken watch. I insist you do
>>18568663Funny how the "watch community" insists that Rolex is the one-and-done watch considering it's the most readily available used brand with literally millions of watches passing through the possession of clueless people every year.If they stopped coping for a moment they would admit that actually you can get a one-and-done watch for way cheaper watch from a different brand, brand new. Conversely, you could get an actually impressive one-and-done watch from non-entry-level luxury brand, something like a Lange Odysseus, if you actually care about having a watch that "does it all" including high-end finishing.It's almost like the "watch community" is just this place and a couple boomer forums being drowned out by an overwhelming number of used watch salesmen pretending to be "enthusiasts".
>>18567136>>18567171The watch of terrorists to presidents, and everyone in between. This is the penultimate watch of humanity.
>>18568714Most forums, subreddits are heavily controlled. There's just too much money involved. Greys/AD's and conglomerates themselves have too much financial incentive to not control the discourse. The watch influencers (paid shills) will make a rolex video a week but never touch the issues with the 32 series. For what 5 digit rolexes go for they are DOGSHIT. A lot better to be had for that money. A 2531.80 or 2254.50 omega being 3k (highest it's ever been used) is about what they should be considering the omegas have better bracelets and clasps (the reason to get the 6 digit rolexes with glidelocks apparently so it's only fair). The omegas are thinner and prettier too but the last part is subjective. The more rolexes I try on the more I begin to dislike them
>>18568743I remember when I did my MSF motorcycle course, and the instructor had towed his camping trailer to the parking lot. He immediately started telling us all that you should never buy a trailer at retail price, because after 5 years you can buy one on finance and then sell it in 5 years and it'll retain enough of it's value that you only have to pay X% or something like that. That's what I think about when someone brings up Rolex being the only watch you need or a great store of value lolThey can't do anything accept regurgitate whatever the used watch seller (or AD) told them. It's impossible for them to consider just buying something because you like it and want to use it for a long time. It always has to be that you're "winning" by getting some special value or benefit. It's very jew-coded or even jeet-coded behavior.
>>18567884SKXMOD A168 with the FKM rubber strap.It's easily my favorite Casio for work.Of the four shown, A158 hands down.I have a gold A159 that I wear regularly.The beauty of them is they're all good options.None of mine are on stock straps. Make of that what you will.
>>18568714>Lange OdysseusNo one is stoping you from buying a Lange Odysseus, a Parmigiani Tonda or a Glashutte Original SeaQ.Rolex just have an universal appeal, that's it that's all. Why this fact makes you act like you have sand in your vagina, i don't know.
>>18568845Rolex doesn't have universal appeal, but I would say Omega, Breitling, and Rolex combined have universal appeal. Alternatively they have universal appeal if you include all previous models. >>18568220 this pic shows how the oldest explorer looked extremely classy, and as time goes on the proportions were ruined, the indices were ruined, the logo became huge, and the hour hand became le quirky.It's childish to think such a watch exists that checks all the boxes for everyone. I thought my 2-door 400hp RWD manual car was perfect until I needed to put a baby seat in it.The Tonda is an awesome watch though.
New UFA dial
I've got an obscure citizen that doesn't have a bracelet option, I've never bought a bracelet before and idk if they all fit as long as the lug size is correct. Model's name is as2050-10e is there any AliExpress bracelet I can buy that'll fit?
>>18568872>the indices were ruined,Applied indices are usually seen as more luxury than printed.These indices are made of white gold and luminova, which is superior than the tritium used before that degrades over time.People like you have zero consistency.They will say that Rolex using applied indices "ruined" the vibe of the watch, but when other brand use printed indices (like IWC) they will say that it's cheap.
>>18568872>the hour hand became le quirky.You're so full of shit about this one too.They use the mercedes hand since the 1950s.
>>18568920>People like you have zero consistency.They seem pretty consistent to me:>anon posts non-Rolex watch>lol poorfag get a Rolex>anon posts a Rolex>lol npc think for yourself get anon-Rolex watch.
>>18568938then>anon gets the non-Rolex watch>ha ha, couldn't afford a Rolex, fag?
>>18568920All the incides in that pic are applied, even the first Gen. The type of lume just goes with what was available at the time. Also watches with printed dials can look great.>>18568929They added it to the Explorer earlier than they added it to the air king, sure, but they can't help but shitting up their watches. Gotta make them look as ROLEX as possible, right?>>18568942People say every collection needs a Rolex or Speedmaster, but actually every collection needs a shitter to prove the "collector" actually has a personality and doesn't just buy from a list of 20 shabbos goy watches.
HOLLY SHIT you fags are still seething about Rolex? 90% of the posts here are>ROLEX BAD!>NO, ROLEX GOOD! Get some new materials you're fucking BORIIIIIINNNNNG
>>18568952There's nothing else controversial to discuss other than Spring Drive.Buying watches isn't a hobby.FWIW this is the only place you can say things like "pajeet filthippe" or "poolex" with getting le downvotes or moderator removal.
>>18568952Well, anon, you actually have a role to play in this: Rolexspammer goes away when he’s ignored.Are there any watches that interest you that you’d like to discuss?
>>18568957>Are there any watches that interest you that you’d like to discuss?Rolex.
>>18568743Rolexes literally feel like big shits on your wrist.
>>18568957Tonda PF GMTToric Perpetual Calendar(both Parmigiani fleurier)The store that carries PF near me is under renovation so I have been able to check their watches out in person. Anyone held them?
>>18568968I haven’t seen the current generation of PFs in person but I used to own a Toric Chronograph from back when Michel Parmigiani was still involved with the company. It was a beautiful watch.I’m not as interested in the brand these days, since it’s being run by Guido Terreni and Michel is just cashing a check. I have no doubt they’re extremely well made watches though.
The reason for the Rolex seethe is simple.Once someone gets a Rolex, he is content. No more climbing, he has reached the top. He goes on to have Rolex Sex (ROLSEX), while the rabble stays behind, endlessly bickering with each other.
>>18568956I wish the mods were a little more active in banning the feces obsessed Indian and his spambot, though.
>>18568971The watches between the original PF releases and the newest releases (Toric/Tonda) are so atrocious, including the Bugatti watch (lol, lmao). To be clear I also think MB&F watches are extremely ugly. This track-record is the only think holding me back from taking current PF more seriously. I really like their understated dials and the finishing on the more expensive pieces (especially the Perpetual calendar), but I want to be sure they won't return to making visual diarrhea.>>18568979The mods were very active when I mentioned that my AD got called up for reservist duty in Tel Aviv.
>>18568956>pajeet filthippeKek, I was the one who invented that
>>18568989When I play Worms Armageddon I always name one of my worms that.
>>18568978Why are you still bickering with us plebs instead of enjoying your Rolex nirvana and fucking hot chicks?
>>18568992I'm honoured, anon.
>>18568986>The watches between the original releases and the newest releasesThis seems to be the case with a number of brands once the venture capital ghouls sink their fangs into a brand.They all go from making nice, if somewhat niche, watches to constantly getting screamed at to reduce overhead, higher margins, more mass appeal, because the vampires moved in and they demand their year on year 20% growth.
>>18568316Nta, but sure.
>>18569023Based
>>18569023Watch is cool. That strap is an atrocity.
>>18569023Eber hard :DDDD
>>18568919ae is the worst place to get bracelet from>Strap width 20 mmwhat's the issue?
>>18568919What kind of bracelet do you want?
>>18569027Thanks.>>18569039Thanks, I like the strap sometimes. Leather season is here now, though.
>>18569046It's German for hard boar
I bought a new entry luxury watch but I'm afraid to post it because it's not a Rolex, Omega, Grand Seiko or Cartier, so I'll just get called a poorfag retard and told my watch is uglyLuckily, it's been making me happy for the past year with its gorgeous dial :3
>>18569220Enjoy it, anon <3
>>18569220post it then
>>18569220Also, what do you guys think about this limited Casio with Great Wave of Kanagawa? I'm thinking of getting one, was gonna get a square anywaysDW-5600KHK25-1DR
>>18569220The other guy posted his Ebelheart and no one made fun of him.
>>18569087>what's the issueI'm a retard I'm not sure if the bracelet will fit well the thickness and shape of the case(?) >ae is the worst place to get a bracelet fromI don't want to pay a bazillion dollars>>18569089Any steel that won't have big gaps between linksI don't want to pay like $50 or something
>>18569228>steel >I don't want to pay like $50you're really a cheapo, like don't even bother getting into watches
>>18569227Are you still here, you fucking subhuman?
>>18569220>>18569225>>18569227alright, I'll post it, now go ahead and make fun of me because Americans have Tag Heuer in Walmart or somethingit's gorgeous in sunlight though, and 80 hour power reserve... amazing
Pick one.
>>18569258nice but a bit boringif I bought a Rolex, I'd buy that super magnetic resistant model for engineers with that lightning minute hand, at least it's a bit interesting
>>18569261and then get it engraved like this guy
>>18569252It's a beauty. And definitely more interesting than another Seamaster or Sub.
>>18569258No thanks.
>>18569261>if I bought a Rolexyou won't cause you're broke
>>18569269>definitely more interesting than another Seamaster or Sub.No, it's really not.
>>18569275You seem so incredibly miserable. How did you get to this point?
>watch says swiss on the dialshitter
>>18569280Don't project, faggot, i'm having fun.You're the one with a BIG chip on your shoulder it seems.
>>18569269>see a watch that's not a Rolex or Omega>immediately think about Rolex and Omega
>>18569252Just so you know, Tag Heuer is not an "entry level luxury watch" and is definitely not on the same level of Grand Soiko, which is merely a marketing operation with very poor value. Enjoy your diver.
>>18569226That’s actually kinda cool. Better than the absurd amount of text on a normal GShock
thoughts on the new longines spirit pilot
>>18569296Don't really know/care.I think the Grand Seiko 9f is actually a decent watch. Shame about the GS bubble these days, prices aren't what they used to be, but if we think with the future in mind, prices are still very reasonable.
>>18569292>Tag Heuer is not an "entry level luxury watch"So what would you categorize it as then?
>>18569296They wanted it to look more neutral in order to compete against Tudor, but they castrated it. I liked the stars on the dial, that's the only thing that differentiated the model against the other brands.
>>18567270what model is this? looks good
>>18569296Not a fan of the chronograph but the regular Pilot is nice. They made it thinner, ditched the date gave it a solid caseback.Pilot watches are supposed to be simple and easy to read.I don’t mind them getting rid of the stars, those always seemed gimmicky to me.I’d rather have it than the IWC pilot, frankly. (If IWC made a no date version, that would be different.)
>Just so you know, Tag Heuer is not an "entry level luxury watch" and is definitely not on the same level of Grand Soiko, which is merely a marketing operation with very poor value. Enjoy your diver.
>>18569252nice!
>>18569252a GMT with 300m WR?
>>18569300>I think the Grand Seiko 9f is actually a decent watchI have been thinking about buying used 9f for quite some time. The concept of a watch that's always working, always accurate and has a service cost of exactly 5 bucks once every three years is getting more and more appealing to me.I think i might have outgrown watches.
>>18569330That's rather get a digital watch over a quartz analog that's ticking all the time.
>>18569331I own a gshock and dont consider it a watch at all.
Why did they make the strap so difficult to change? I want to wear it on a Speidel Twist-O-MaticREEEEEEEE
>>18567136I need a new watch box, should I just get a wolf 15 watch box. Is there a one thats a briefcase but has a nice suede or alcantera inside instead of foam
>>18569328it's just caller GMT thoughwhich, believe it or not, I actually prefer
>>18569338What the hell is a Twist-O-Matic?
>>18567707That's a San Martin isn't it? Just got the one with small seconds
>>18569338What is even the point of an automatic Casio?Quartz is more precise, cheaper, with fewer moving parts, and a power reserve measured in months, not days.The only thing mechanical watches have going for them is appreciation of their craftsmanship.If you mass produce them in an automated factory, they have exactly as much SOVL as a Quartz, just artificially limited to outdated tech.
>>18569341You should sell some watches instead.
>>18569356I just like it :)
>>18569359I cant see everything so I just buy more
>>18569359Why would you do that?You went through the trouble to acquire them, so you should not sell them.If you're short on money, just get a job. Watch flippers are dirty.
>>18569266I saw a similar watch some time back that was engraved like this but with Louie Vuitton logos all over it. I couldn't believe someone would do something so crass.
>>18569383>Watch flippers are dirty.Selling a watch you don’t want anymore is not flipping.Flipping is buying a hype watch and immediately turning around and selling it for profit.If you bought a watch ten years ago and your style has changed, why not sell it so someone else can enjoy that watch? It’s not like you’re ever going to wear it again.
>>18569302Rolex.
>>18569322Amazing that one sentence drove your whole neuronal system to blackout.
Flipping watches is great. I literally made a 3k euros profit by flipping a pistachio OP I got last week from the AD. How is that not BASED and HIGHLY REDPILLED?? I just bought myself a nice Drake's jacket and a bunch of Rubato knits thanks to that. The gf love my new style. Thank you based retard who bought my somewhat rare Rolex!Watches aren't "soulful" objects. You're not in living in Hogwarts and your Speedmaster isn't an Horcrux, you fucking balding manchild faggot. Stop fetishizing watches. btw I would do the same with the rarest Philippe Dufour ever made or your grail FP Journe. I already have a Rolex and a bunch of other watches I love, why should I fucking care? kys
FEDERICO PEDERICO DE LA JOURNEINVENTORIO DE FECALIS
>>18569407Rolex is entry level luxury to you? That's just luxury.Then you have ultra-luxury, like with sports cars, luxury doesn't start at Bugatti Veyron.
>>18569415Kys.
>>18569387It actually looks quite tasteful to mehttps://www.ablogtowatch.com/rolex-milgauss-116400-engraved-madeworn-watch-review/Makes it look like an antique
>>18569449Casio < Timex < Seiko < Rolex < Omega < Breitling < Tag Heuer < JLC < Bvlgari < Cartier < AP < VC < PP
Crazy how every single watch Seiko makes is 3mm too big
>>18568627>wait on a list for years while sucking off the ad constantly>finally get the watch and you're elated you're now part of the elite>six months later and it's running slow>don't want to leave the elite so go into denial and suck it up and pay $1000 for a service>all watch youtubers are on rolexs' payroll. the only video on youtube about it is from a slav with english as a second language
>>18569252Very nice6 o'clock date > 3 o'clock date
>>18569356An auto casio with a seiko movement no less
>>18569330>GSgay sex
>>18569554>casio uses another jap brand's partsshocking, i know
>>18569356to cash in on the chink market
>want an f91 but I actually wanna be able to see the screen its over for me..
>>18569463BASED
>>18569252I don't like it, which doesn't matter.Have fun with it, TAGbro.
>>18567819Cool. I like alarms, and Porsche Design looks good.
Give me the best Navitimer clones for less than $300
>>18567136>15 year old>Battery replaced only once>Still works
>>18569964Im white as snow
>>18569966Your fingers say you eat tikka masala at every meal, Ranjeet.
>>18569972Im a boxer tho currently training for military exam.But how you know im a jeet?
>>18569962>>18569966Hello, I like your watch.Price?Have a nice day.
>>18569966White as the snow on a designated shitting street
>>18569449>Rolex is entry level luxury to you? That's just luxury.Yes. Rolex is around where luxury starts. Something like Omega or Breitling is not luxury. That doesn’t mean they’re bad. A Toyota Camry is a perfectly fine car and very well made, but no one would call it a luxury car. Similarly, Omega makes totally decent watches, some of them are even quite expensive, but they’re not luxury watches.Luxury is as much about feel as price. It’s very hard to define, which is why autistic people keep throwing shit-fits over it.Something like the following would cause them incredible distress:>a steel Cartier Tank is a luxury watch, a gold TAG Heuer is not.
>>18569992ThanksIt's around 2k rupees 15 years ago >>18569996Racist
>>18569338>Why did they make the strap so difficult to change?It was designed to cash in on the integrated bracelet sports watch craze. Granted, it’s a few years too late, but still.
>>18570002Rolex is just a utility watch like Sinn or something.Omega and Breitling are tool watches.
>>18570061Rolex is a showoff watch, a flex watch. Nothing else. The house is doomed, since the number of people completely uninterested in showing off their watch is growing in leaps and bounds every year.
>>18570063>The house is doomed2 more weeks before Rolex' bankrupt.
>>18570063They sell more watches every year. They’ve built a new factory.They have brand recognition on par with Disney and Ferrari.When, exactly do you expect it all to crash?
>>18570063lol rolex will never die.They have no integrity as a brand. If they're ever in decline they'll just start putting company logos on the dials again or bring back the oysterquartz.They have zero (0) integrity as a "watchmaker".
>>18570002>>18570061you're fucking retardedtoyota a tool that reliably gets you from point A to B. maybe you pay a little markup for the brand over just bare minimum that would do the job but what? 30%? 50%?when you want to use that analogy on watches basic skmei shitter serves the function of time telling perfectly fine and it's like $4. so toyota would probably be comparable to casio here. while Breitling or Omega sit around x1000 (100 000%) markup while doing absolutely nothing better than skmei.
>>18570081Jesus, all this unintelligible ESL.
>>18570069ahem... FUCK INTEGRITY.
>>18570081I have a SKMEI and I love it, but it doesn't give me the same FEELING as my other watches.
>>18570082I'm Nordic, white as they come and I can still parse this effortlessly. You're low IQ if you can't.
>>18570090Terve ja tervetuloa
If Rolex had no integrity, then why would they go through the hassle of regulating all of their watches above COSC standards (with a 5 years warranty) and developing a new 5Hz movement with a new escapement?They could just say "fuck it" and keep selling millions of Subs and Datejusts with a basic COSC certification.What exactly makes Rolex the bad guy of horology?
>>18570063>the number of people completely uninterested in showing off their watch is growing in leaps and bounds every yearI wish I were that detached from the internet and the world at large, to still be able too unironically believe the opposite of the truth.
>>18569962>>18569966Based Bihar Chad dabbin' all over this thread
>>18570101They've become a cash cow and there a lot of people acting in bad faith around the brand, particularly their own salespeople, their AD network, flippers, used watch sellers, and watchless fags that feel the need to "pick a team" to have something to say on forums. As timepieces they're fine, on par with other slab-sided slop. If someone had the chance to try 10 brands at that price range and they still pick a Rolex, they're either an unironic "hypebeast" or a retard, specifically the people that buy a Rolex over a Cartier (it's like they hate style).
>>18570101> What exactly makes Rolex the bad guy of horology?A couple things, really.I don’t like that they’ve raised their prices faster than the rate of inflation. A basic Sub was around $250 in 1965, which is around $2500 in today’s money. A new Sub is over $10000. That’s just greed.I don’t like that they’ve changed their watches from the design of the 1960s. They were perfect back then. Why change?I don’t like how everyone feels like they have to have one, which means I can’t just go to an AD and buy one. I have to wait years or pay gray market prices for a watch I can appreciate simply because a thousand schmucks want a Rolex simply because it is “nice”?For these reasons I have turned my back on Rolex and I wish only ill upon them.
>>18570067>They sell more watches every yearMost of which for the black market, you forgot to say.>>18570105With the ever-growing sale numbers they will ultimately lose their value. It's a slow but inevitable path. The second-hand market is already overflowed with Lolexes that nobody buys unless the price goes down dramatically. Think about Loden coats or leather jackets. Used to cost an arm and a leg back then, now they're not produced anymore because you can find trillions of them on the second-hand market for 1/100 of the original price. Every little piece of shit that humans produce (AND SELL) in exaggerated numbers, is doomed to loose most of its value at some point in the future. Lolex is merely riding the long wave of its diabolical marketing campaign and cult-tier sales method that started around 1995-2000 and that they still benefit from. But it's not eternal. Their watches are objectively shittier than ever and people are beginning to realize this. Their customer base is 80% Chinese and Indian. Once these countries will be *actually* developed, and will overcome the retardation that goes hand in hand with poverty, Lolex will suddenly be a Longines-tier house, while absolute chads of the game such as Tag Heuer, Bvlgari, Audemars Piguet and Vacheron Constantin will start growing and attracting new customers and media attention. Simple as, but you can keep coping if you so wish.
>>18570122I think it's pretty clear they've already destroyed their reputation with anyone actually informed about watches. Nobody handles more watches than Tim Mosso and he doesn't even own a Rolex, and nobody can call him a poorfag because he owns some really sought after pieces.
>>18570125Anyone, literally anyone, who I've spoken to, who extensively knows watches and horology, despises Lolex. A lot of old watchmakers (I've met some across 5 different countries) will look at you with a veil of derision and haughtiness if you mention that you own a Lolex.
>>18570125>I think it's pretty clear they've already destroyed their reputation with anyone actually informed about watches.Their reputation is what it’s always been: they make reliable, boring watches perfectly. They don’t innovate. They take the ideas of others and perfect them.Someone like Mosso doesn’t own a Rolex because they’re not that interesting to the .0001% of the population who cares about watches and also has regular access to basically every tiny independent luxury brand.You don’t need to be so histrionic. Not owning a Rolex doesn’t make you some kind of an iconoclast or freethinker. The fact that you’re writing essays about a brand you don’t like is concerning.
>>18570133You sound like an angry amerimutt, why so butthurt?
>>18570122Your post reminded me of the saying, “a woman can turn a single word into a four hour argument.”In your case, sugar, the word was “Rolex”.
>>18570134I accept your concession.
Now that the dust has settled, how do you anons feel about being a verified iconoclast and freethinker?
>>18570141>how do you anons feel about being a verified iconoclast and freethinker?I can’t afford a Rolex. Honestly, it kind of sucks to be poor. I look at my Tag Heuer and I’m reminded that I should have studied harder in school.
>>18570141>oh shit! My argument is falling apart! Memes, my sisters! Post our memes!
>>18570155What argument anon? I care about watches and I have access to all brands, including independents. Buying a patent and producing it is hardly "perfecting" an idea, it's just applying it at scale. You have nothing but cope.
You can practically set your watch by the regularity of the Rolex seething ITT. Every few months it bubbles up and a couple of poorfags work through their sour grapes in public, and then calm down again.Anyway, Cartier makes very nice dress watches.
>>18570141Sorry anon, I'm gay and therefore am looking into a Piaget.
>>18570114>buying a Rolex over a CartierThey are so completely different in the watches theymake, I don't see how you could find yourself being in a "one or the other" situation with these two.
>>18570114>They've become a cash cowOh no, a company making money. Argument dismissed (especially after defending Cartier, which is literally the only reason Richemont is still profitable).>lot of people acting in bad faith around the brand, particularly their own salespeople, their AD network, flippers, used watch sellers, and watchless fags that feel the need to "pick a team" to have something to say on forums. Unrelated to Rolex. Argument dismissed.>If someone had the chance to try 10 brands at that price range and they still pick a Rolex, they're either an unironic "hypebeast" or a retard, specifically the people that buy a Rolex over a Cartier (it's like they hate style).You hating sports watches is a (You) problem. Argument dismissed.>>18570116>I don’t like that they’ve raised their prices faster than the rate of inflationSame could be said for literally every brand. Argument dismissed.>I don’t like that they’ve changed their watches from the design of the 1960s. They were perfect back then. Why change?Same could be said for literally every brand. Argument dismissed.>I don’t like how everyone feels like they have to have oneUnrelated to Rolex. Argument dismissed.
>>18570166Actually, owning a Rolex and a Cartier is pretty close to “I solved watches” territory.
>>18570167>The employees on Rolex payroll are unrelated to Rolex. lol, lmao even>>18570166Cartier makes sexy watches with slop movements and Rolex makes ugly watches with slop movements. So Cartier has one (1) redeeming quality beyond "it just werks"If they made the Santos Dumont XL without a sunburst dial I'd get one immediately.
>>18570152Lmfao you're not me. I love my Heuer, and even though I can afford one, I simply don't need a Rolex. Nice try, anon.
>>18570179The lacquer S-D watches are gorgeous. I wonder how durable the lacquer is. Probably pretty fragile, I’d imagine.
>>18570171The only way to "solve watches" is to quit the game and buy a Casio.
>>18570181Love the dial but I have no idea why they made the case black too.>>18570183Wrong, the ultimate exit watch is the Richard Lange Jumping Seconds. You pay 80k for a mechanical watch with deadbeat seconds (ticks like a quartz shitter). Now that's kino.
>>18570179ADs aren't employed by Rolex, retard.>Rolex>slop movements+2/-2s a day, nigger.How accurate is your Copehard?
>>18570179The rolex 31 series movements are among the best ever for daily use three handers.
>>18570187Until the 31 series yes. The 32 series are fundamentally flawed and there's no fix
>>18570183Settling for a Casio is like taking the blackpill and accepting that you’ll die alone and unloved.You can find the watch that makes you happy, even if it’s not perfect.Cartier: a girl with a beautiful body who is dumb as a postOmega: she like outdoorsy activities but she’s also a little chunkySeiko: she watches anime, but she’s also way too into anime and refuses to shower.Breitling: she’s surprisingly tall and also you’re pretty sure she has stolen money from youRolex: she’s hot but not jaw-dropping. She has slept with literally everyone you know, though.JLC: She’s beautiful but autistic, and not quirky autistic, like screechy out of control autistic.Glashütte Original: face looks like a model but she has a weirdly proportioned body and an off-putting accent.Piaget: eating disorder means thin and a whole load of other problems.Vacheron Constantin: she was a supermodel in the 1980s. She insists she’s still as beautiful.Patek Philippe: physically perfect but no personality whatsoever. Moser: beautiful but has this loud, braying, honking laugh that you pray no one ever tells a joke within earshot.Hamilton: she grew up poor but she’s proud of how she can make a meal out of roadkillHublot: she’s Puerto Rican, one of the loud onesPanerai: she’s your best friend. She can talk about football, she can beat you in an eating contest, she has too much self confidence to try Ozempic.
>>18570194>picturesHoly shit! The original Bittercel! He’s back!! How have you been?
>>18570195Will the Panerai girl also peg me hard if I ask?
>>18570198The shit well is that way >>/wt/
>>18570187You exude bad faith. In my original post I said Rolex salesmen and ADs. There are Rolex boutiques that are partially and even fully owned by Rolex. They play similar games to the ADs. Idk where you live but other anons seem to think you're a gigamutt. I'm sorry there are no boutiques there anon.
>>18570199Not if you ask. That would be weird. You would make a bet with her and if you win, she shaves her head and if you lose she pegs you. Then you lose on purpose.
>>18570216Focking BASED advice!
>>18570195>Settling for a Casio is like taking the blackpill and accepting that you’ll die alone and unloved.I'm already married, faggot. And my wife loves the Casio I gave her. (I also gave her a "luxury" watch which is now collecting dust in her nightstand).
>>18570216>if you lose, i get anal, and if i lose i have to eat my cum, ha ha.
The thing that Rolex is great at is making watches for people who only want one watch. Once I started collecting and learning more, my Rolexes became less interesting to me. I’ve sold most of them, though I’m keeping the Explorer II that I received as a gift, obviously.But I would much rather wear other watches.
>>18570297>the Explorer II that I received as a gift,post it
>>18570082go read chatgpt perfect emdash slopin llm era low effort and imperfection is the new signature of a thinking human being. keep up grandpa
>>18570300
>>18570303Nice, it's definitely a keeper.
>>18570301based
>>18570205Before the Bucherer acquisition in 2024 Rolex owned one (1) boutique in Geneva. Now they own ~100 Bucherer boutiques. For reference, there are over 1800 Rolex ADs in the world.Who's exuding bad faith again?
>>18570339Why do you sound so much like you suck cock in the backyard of your local pub?
>>18570341>no argumentI accept your concession.
>>18570341Because I’m your father.
>I accept your concession
>>18570341>gay thoughts out of nowhere
>>18570195> JLC: She’s beautiful but autistic, and not quirky autistic, like screechy out of control autistic.>Glashütte Original: face looks like a model but she has a weirdly proportioned body and an off-putting accent.Kek
>>18570198kys faggot, your shartier sucks
Is /wt/ particularly slow today? All their bitterbitch sewage is spilling into our thread.
>>18570448Today /fa/ is flooded with pigslim/schizo/jew drama, which is actually 90% bot posts that nobody reads. Sad that the mod who'd wipe out this shit is always asleep and just doesn't care.
>>18570448You're free to fuck off to wt with the avaturdfags if you can't handle healthy criticism or opinions itt.
>>18570448idk if it's the homegrown bitterfag or some new other schyzo faggot, but he's been farting his dumb anti-Rolex rant in every /wt/ lately.
>>18570530>anti-RolexStandard poorfaggot. If he could afford one he'd buy it in a heart best and never look back.Since he can't, he keeps coping by hating Rolex. It is his only way..
>>18570533Yeah, Rolex lives rent free in his head, but when you can afford it, Rolex just one great brand to enjoy among others.
ROLEX = SEX (ROLSEX)poorfags will never know..
Seiko Time Boxx
>>18570187>+2/-2s a day, nigger.For a couple of months then it's -20s lmfao
>>18570567maybe after 5 to 10 years, not a couple monthsEither way i wouldn't care, i set up the time every morning, and i mostly check my time on my phone/pc and use the watch as my second option (like most people do at this point). No point being anal about a few seconds delay.
>>18570599>i set up the time every morningThe Rolex Experience™
>>18570611* the automatic watch experience when you actually have other watches.No one said automatic watches were the most efficient.Efficience is not the point of owning a piece of art/crafstmanship.It's like saying "it's dumb to drive a 1960s Jaguar, my Tesla is more accurate".
>>18570195Stop making me want to buy a Breitling Aerospace when I’m not an active military contractor There’s no way I can justify buying a $2k quartz beater lmao, even if it is titaniumOnly problem - every comparable Ana-digi or even just plain digital watch that’s affordable is either 15mm thick for no damn reason or a g-shock with 17 random buttons and knobs sticking off of it
I wish Casio made the EFK100CD but quartz instead of automatic. I don't want a cheap Seiko movement that's off by 30 seconds every day.
>>18570618One of the biggest reasons I got into mechanical watches is because I'm tired of this world that's built on disposable bullshit. I want to go back to a world where shit was good for years and if it broke it was worth fixing. A smart watch or quartz shitter is not only not going to last long term but it's just another thing to charge or change batteries for.I was just thinking about this yesterday, I came home from work and I needed to charge my phone, my wireless earbuds, my flashlight, my fuckin doorbell of all things, and the carbon monoxide detector needed fresh batteries. I'm so fucking done with needing to charge this and needing to charge that and this needs new batteries and hurdedurrdedurr.... I just want shit that fuckin works.
>>18570764>quartz shitter is not only not going to last long termQuartz watches will last just as long as an automatic as long as you don't let the battery inside rot and destroy the movement, you can still find plenty of quartz crisis era watches that still work. Just don't be a retard and buy a Swatch, which is meant to be a disposable commodity, and buy a quality quartz watch from a reputable brand.>but it's just another thing to charge or change batteries forYou're going to service your mechanical watch more often than you replace the battery on your quartz if you're following the manufacturer's intervals.
>>18570622
>>18570764Eco Drive or Solar GShock should last a decade or more before replacing the capacitor. Doesn't Casio have 10 yr battery life? Also, there are instances where service centers also replace automatic mov'ts instead of fixing the existing one? This also includes Swiss shitters.
>>18570829Anything below $1000 it's more economical to replace the movement than to start taking it apart. That being said, none of my destitute-tier watches (Casio, Seiko 5, Vostok, fashion shit) ever lasted less than 20 years, without any service.
>>18570862>I didn't take care of my stuff and they brokeFascinating insight, thank you anon.
>>18570195That's nice and all but I still hate women.
>>18570899read my post again
>>18570918Homosexuals aren't welcome in this thread. /nawt/ loves women, especially black women.
>>18570981It's a thread about watches, at least 30% of posters are going to be gay.
>>18570984Here's the thread for men who enjoy the company of other men >>18567079
>>18570988No thanks, I am gay, not a faggot.
>>18570990Don't come anywhere near me, degenerate.
Can someone explain to me why there are always two identical watch threads on /fa/? What edrama have you fags been up to? A new watch came in the mail today and I want to know which thread I should post it in.
>>18571065Post is it in both. This thread will berate you while the other thread will give sincere positive feedback.
NEW THREAD WHEN!!??
>>18571097NOW!!!!>>18571100>>18571100>>18571100>>18571100>>18571100
>>18571065make that 3. /wt/ had too much same avatarwhoring and bittercel posting at some point so /nawt/ was created. affordable watches are outcasts at /wt/ and /nawt/ and labeled as poorfag shitters by bittercels so /pswt/ was also created.
>>18570705but it isn't
>>18570764>One of the biggest reasons I got into mechanical watchesis wrong. movements are disposable. deal with it. your way of dealing with it is to cope with fancy gears but guess what it's still gears it's still disposable but now with artistic inflation tax.
>>18571065Post it in both, unless it was less than 500 bucks, then post it in all three.
>>18569990poop under fingernails
