WATCH THREADWATCH THREADWATCH THREADIf you post a Citizen or a Seiko in this thread, your mom will be raped by a pack of black gentlemen tonight.The place to actually discuss watches, free of avatarfagging drama, including bittercelposting, pics of food or drinks, or long-ass stories about your lives.>Your budget>Preferred brand or manufacture>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot, etc>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz, etc>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, chronograph, etc>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet, etc>Wrist size or desired watch sizePrevious thread: >>18576164
>>18578155now THAT's a proper watch choice
>>18578158It looks really pretty on its own but it rarely looks good on wristshots. It often looks awkward and stiff. Just like many integrated bracelet sports watch.
>>18578158Except it's a million bucks>>18578166And this
>>18578155>the split must continueREAL NEW THREAD HERE>>18576142>>18576142>>18576142
Okay hi guys and welcome to the thread41 or 36 Explorer?7 inch wrist
>>18578200If you have a 7” wrist, get an Explorer 2. The design of the Explorer 1 is far too dainty to work in 40mm.
I hope you all did your part buying his fake seikos.
>>18578131>Yeah I'm sure it's way too much for your budget, Seiko wearerThe ole "I don't have a rebuttal so I'll call you poor" shtickZenith are overpriced like Panerai. There's better options for less
>>18578166> Just like many integrated bracelet sports watch.I’m interested to see if the new Rolex Land-Dweller solved this problem. Rolex always has comfortable bracelets. An uncomfortable Rolex would practically be a contradiction in terms.
>>185782072 is ugly
>>18578264It’s also one of the ones you have to wait for. There’s like three classes of Rolex these days:Class 1: less than two months wait, resale is below MSRP. Like common color OPs and DJs and Explorer msClass 2: you’ll have to wait up to a year. Resale is around or possibly higher than MSRP. Submariner, Explorer II, common color Day-DatesClass 3: Be prepared to wait years. Daytonas, GMT Master, special color anything.
>>18578155Tudor ranger vs the new longines spirit pilot?
>>18578285i'd chose the Longines because the ranger is one of the worst cope Tudor makes.
>>18578285Longines. It looks cleaner and it’s thinner to boot. The Ranger is supposed to be 36mm but Rolex wouldn’t allow that because it would cannibalize sales from the Explorer.
>>18578305>>18578301Ive basicly settled on the ranger. You'll have to offer more than cope and false premises on what its supposed to be. The spirit is slightly thinner though, ill give you that.
>>18578285I also vote longines, I bought it a few weeks ago and I’ve been enjoying it. the ranger seems like the forgotten unwanted child of tudor. I don’t hate it and think it could be good with a few updates but I feel like they’ll just eventually stop making it in a few years
with the daki
The avatarfag thread is the other onw, /wt/.
>>18578358post watches then faggot
>>18578285I don't like the case shape, brown/bronze color, or the little polished bits on the bracelet on the longines.I was between those two and a Sinn 556, and I went with the ranger. It just came in the mail yesterday actually. Bought used on ebay for $2500, it has some light scratches that I only notice if I'm looking for them. I've only been wearing it for a couple days but I'm really happy with my purchase.If you haven't yet, go look at one in person. I wasn't sure how I felt about the faux patina when looking at pictures, but after holding one I like it, I think it's well done.
>>18578285Assuming you mean the three-hand Spirit and not the chronograph, the Spirit all the way. It is a legitimately good looking watch in person. It looks like it costs more than it does. The case flows really well nicely, it’s thin, the dial proportions are just right and it has a nice sense of depth.I could see putting it on a croc strap and even using it as a dress watch in a pinch.
>>18578166looks big on that wrist
>>18578355K I N O
Got any recommendations for a 800 USD Dress Watch that's at least automatic? Wouldn't mind if it's used or brand new.
>>18578446Automatic dress watch for that price will be enormous, which means it wont be a dress watch.
>>18578421that’s why the original was smaller, the modern one followed the jumbo version’s proportions.
Is it normal for a new rolex date change to be off by a few minutes? I have one that the date changes over 4 minutes after midnight.
>>18578548When I put a handset on an Ali express dial and movement I typically aim for midnight ±2 minutes. It's just a matter of precision and attention to detail. You have to give Rolex some slack, they don't really have the resources to be so precise.
>>18578548no, a difference of 4 minutes overnight that is not normal. but you don’t have a rolex so it doesn’t matter
>>18578229It's really weird you think this Chopard is a flex. Not only because you paid 6 grand for it (lmao) which really isn't a large sum of money, but because this kind of watch is supposed to go under the radar.
What do we think of Auricoste?
>>18578446Olympos
>>18578673Looks like your generic sub copy. Thei watch with yellow diver seems a little more original..Otherwise idk, their website gives off zombie brand/fake history vibes. There's already Baltic, Yema, Doxa (...) in the "legendary historical french sub watches" market (so legendary that no one heard of them except for Doxa).
>>18578673The design looks pretty clean, though I’m no fan of the faux patina. What are the specs?
>>18578346Tudor makes good copes, the BB 54 is a good cope. But the Ranger is just sad, it lacks the versatility of the class of the Explorer.
>>18578686I think you’re absolutely right. The BB54 or the Pelagos series are good copes because they’re also something Rolex no longer makes (in this case small divers and/or actual tool divers)The Ranger, on the other hand, seems like it’s a leftover from an earlier era of Tudor. It’s too ungainly and blocky to be a good field watch (compared, for example to the hand-winding Hamilton Khaki). It can’t serve as a dressy watch in emergencies like the 36mm Explorer can.
>>18578446It depends on your style but technically for $800, you can't get much better than a NOMOS.
>>18578692What if anon isn't gay?
>>18578684You're confused. Doxa is swiss and was revived after the quartz crisis. Baltic is a 10yo microbrand. Yema passed from hand to hand but never totally dissapeared. Auricoste is owned by the same family since the 1980s.
>>18578696then Junghans Max Bill is the second best
>>18578673I think i have never seen more generic looking watch.
>>18578692Even ignoring all the gayity, this is not a good watch. Those lugs are just screaming daniel wellington.
>>18578718Those are the traditional lugs. They’re not going to stop. It’s like Breguet cold rolling the sides of their cases and welding lugs.Nomos does make watches with more modern lugs designs like the Club and the Orion.
What's an interesting vintage watch 50's/60's that's under 300 euro dollars?
>>18578718>daniel wellingtonIs Daniel Wellington even a reference of bad taste anymore? It was mostly big in 2010, no one is wearing them now or has this cultural reference anymore.
>>18578718(Of course, ignoring the gaiety) I think it is a good watch. Nomos does make a good product for the money. Their in-house movements are solid and robust. Their watches are quite thin.The Ahoi, for example has like 200m WR and is like 9mm thick.The finishing is definitely simple but it’s not badly done. They also make their watches in a variety of sizes, which more companies should do.They definitely have their own design language which isn’t for everyone, but I’d rather they do their own thing rather than puke out another forgettable vintage military inspired diver.
>>18578718>>18578737Do you see what i mean? You're just showing your age with this reference.And the problem of DW was mostly the build quality, not the overall design that was just minimalist (that's why it's close to NOMOS and Junghans).
>>18578740>not the overall design that was just minimalistYes it was. Minimalism is shit, every single watch in that style is shit and homos is only marginally better than DW.
>>18578740>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT BE 30 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAARGH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
Sexy little Movado worldtimer from the 50s.
>>18578780Not a true world timer, but very neat nonetheless. Movado is one of those brands where, the more you read about them, the sadder their current state becomes.
what a good non-avatardofag wathc? i want onyl real watchs, no avatardofuck crap
>>18578787Check out Tag Heuer.
>>18578787Tag Heuer checks out.
>>18578756Hot take: Dress watches are never masculine.By definition, dress watches are for low test men working at a desk.
>>18578812Hot take indeed. Scorching, even.
niggertardello.
Best GMT for wristlets?
>>18578866Either that or the Tudor BB58GMTThe Glycine is a historic model with a cool story. An elegant and simple solution.
>>18578866Farter has 36mm gmts.
>>18578556The closest you can get is 2 minutes?
>>18578787Definitely Tag Heuer, check it out.
OK, we had a little horology evening.>OMEGAMy speedmaster was ready for pickup but the telemeter bezel wasn't perfectly aligned (yes I brought a loupe to check, yes, the last time I went in for service after the bezel popped off due to 'operator error' they also reinstalled it slightly off-center and I seethed for 5 years until now.) This time I'll only accept perfection. Back to waiting.>CZAPEKMy first time seeing Czapek irl, they had lovely service and some nice pieces. My favorite two were the onyx dial with sapphire indices, and the meteorite green dial. The size was perfect, the bracelet was really nice, flexible, but it's a little flashy. They said they can order a matte one for me though. Movements were just unreal, you can find lots of macro footage online but honestly I'd say second only to Lange based on what I've actually held in my hands. 300m WR too. I've got a deposit down on SLGB005 so I'm holding off, but it can't hurt to look.>ROLEXI finally went in, quite friendly staff similar to Omega (also all Chinese), they let me try on GMTs, but they only had Zombie and Pepsi (I wanted rootbeer). Anons should be aware the rehauts were aligned. I was a little underwhelmed, maybe because I'm used to the speedmaster with bracelet, but they were a bit smaller and a lot lighter than I was expecting. Obviously the bracelets weren't sized for me, but given that the lugs are thick all the way to the ends, it did feel like it stuck out a bit near the edges of my wrist. Idk what I was expecting but they're just steel (and gold) sports watches. I really didn't like the colored ceramic though, it looks like shitty plastic to me. It's a no from me, but I will give some more thought to Czapek.
>>18578866I love the Airman No.1 Purist. There aren’t enough 24 hour watches out there.
>>18578866Lorca model 1 (36mm)Nivada Antarctic GMT (36mm)
>>18579074These are really cool but wildly overpriced.
>>18579074Nivadas look cool on mockup pictures but they’re actually shiny as fuck. Saw them irl and I was grossed out.
Whenever people talk about affordable watches they always bring up>Seiko>Citizen>Timex>Casio>Chinese watchesYet no one talks about the undisputed goat>OrientAside from crap bracelets which can easily be substituted with aftermarket bracelets/straps you get: >Original designs>Some of the best looking dials in the affordable space>Reliable in house movements whose accuracy is understated>Better specs than 90% of the brands in the spaceThe Star Diver is one of my favourite diver designs out there, it's a bit of a bitch to get here though and I am not firing up Chrono24 because I am going to spend thousands on impulse purchases.
>>18578812>working outside with your hands for a lousy pay like some 19th century russian peasant>manlykeep telling yourself that
>>18578726poljot deluxe
>>18578155Suppppppppp. Is it worth going to a more exotic colored strap to change things up or am I better off with black for everything?
I AM NOT LIKE THE OTHER WATCH GUYSIN FACT I DONT THINK EXPENSIVE LUXURY WATCHES ARE THE BEST AT ALLMY PICK FOR BEST WATCH? IT HAS TO BE THIS OBSCURE GEM CALLED FW 91 FROM CASIOYUP! RUBBER STRAP AND THE ORIGINAL FACE!IT IS MORE ACCURATE THAN EVERY ROLEX EVER MADE AND IT ONLY COST ME 80 DOLLARS AT WALMART!I BET YOU ARE SO SHOCKED RIGHT NOW HEHEHEHE
>>18579088All high-polish cases? I mean, depending on the case shape and size it can be done. Or do you mean the polishing itself is of poor quality?
>>18579094Orient still has the stigma of “affordable watch” while not actually being that affordable anymore. Bambino went from like 100 dollars to 250 in 5 years
>>18579136The prices of everything is up, quibbling over individual brands doing so is futile. The quality of an Orient is still better than that of a similarly priced Seiko.
>>18578369Should've got a smiley
>>18578638Just proving I could've bought a Zenith
>>18579087>wildly overpriced.They're both under 2k. That's pocket money.
Forget fucking Rolex and shit.Literally no need to spend tens of thousands on a "luxury" watch that is only noticed by some 50 year old hags.What you need, my man, is the Apple iwatch with the bank account balance app on the default screen.>Young bitches love apple>You get to flex without losing ANY value>Also can track various stuff and slide into DMs with this bad boyIt is literally over for the "luxury" watch industry.
>>18578784Modern Movado is fucking awful lmao
>>18579155Outside of the gym I only see boomers wearing smart watchesHell even inside the gym I am starting to feel like a weirdo for having one
>>18578446
>>18579157>What time is it?>quarter past 121
>>18579147That's 2k for a watch from a zombie brand using a stock movement. I'm not saying it's too much money for a watch, I'm saying that's a lot of money that could be put towards something more historic or interesting or cooler than someone who bought someone else's name and put it on a pile of chinese parts.
>>18579157While that's definitely true, the photo your posted doesn't make the case. Sure it's a santos cope, but I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen wearing it.I might actually die if someone saw me wearing this shitter.
>>18579174You just described every brand under 3k.
>>18579181Longines and Hamilton would like to have a word.
>>18579181Not really? There are good seikos and various swatch brand watches you can get new, and if you're open to buying used or vintage watches there are almost no limits. You can get into older cartier and omegas and tudors and stuff for $3k easy.
>>18579181Yeah, 1900 dollars under 2k
>>18578301>>18578305>>18578686>>18578691I don't really have a dog in this fight but just curious; do you all happen to own a rolex or grail a rolex?
>>18578305I don't get that argument because Tudor doubling and tripling down on the Black Bay divers clearly isn't making them scared of losing customers for Submariners, and a 36mm ranger with printed dials and butt plug hand are still a clear step down from the Explorer.
>go to the mall and buy a Seiko 5>dad calls me a moneywasting retard because you can see the time on your phone How do I reply to him without sounding mad?(I’m 35)
>>18579201>Shut up and tell mom to bring me my tendies
>>18579201Firstly, you don’t have to call him dad. Your dad left. Steve is just the guy fucking your mom in your dad’s house.
>>18579128Highly polished cases. They’re shiny, I don’t know how else to put it.
>>18579157Holy shit, those are actually KINO.
>>18579192>I don't really have a dog in this fight but just curious; do you all happen to own a rolex or grail a rolex?I do own the Explorer, the Ranger is a bad cope.
>>18579157Nice Cartier Santos cope.I don't know how feminine they look in real life, considering it also have some brushed surfaces.Cartier can get away with it but i'd have to see those in real life.
>>18579201watches are a waste of money, but it’s your money and you can waste it on whatever stupid shit you want
>>18579201When i turned 18, i got money for my birthday, with that money (like $300 at the time) i bought a Festina watch.My father eye-rolled and told me it was a waste of money.Years and years later, i still have that watch. Meanwhile, i don't have one object he ever gifted me, nothing that would remind me of an important moment or whatever, just this watch that i gifted myself (with the money he gifted me).Mind you, my father bought himself cars, houses and dumb shit. So i don't get that mentality. It's like saying that you don't deserve shit and you don't deserve something that you would cherish; just utilitarian money, like cattle or something.
>>18579277this
>>18579280Looking back at it, i don't even know what he wanted me to buy with that birthday money. Coke?As an adult now, it seems like buying that watch was literally the most appropriate thing to do.
I think Nico Leonard is an unfunny asshole with an egoHowever, he is a great way to gauge how normalfags will react to your watch>Omg Rolex! So awesome!>Seiko! Lmao! You really wasted your money on that?!>Chinese watch? Shit!This is pretty accurate to how 90% of the peoppe will react, doesn’t matter how you try to explain the “value”, they already made up their mind
>>18579412his video about the best watches for poor people is kino.
>>18578155
>>18579425
>>18579423Let me guess>Casio good!>his retarded audience claps like seals and donates him enough to buy his third ferrari
>>18579428no he just keeps making fun of poor people
>>18579412Nico Leonard is the perfect microcosm of the human psyche.>egoAll plebs carry a huge one and always mirror everything through their ego.>already made up their mindAs have 95 % of all humans, logic plays no role in their decision making and they only use a bastardized version of it to support their conclusions>engages in mindless consumerism and forced memes.No need to say anything about this.If we ever need to preserve a sample of humanity for future researchers, we should deep freeze Nico Leonard so future scientist can study the perfectly average specimen.
Okay fellas, watches at home what's the verdict? You wearing every waking moment or only when leaving the house?
>>18579412Blocked him channel just based on the thumbnails. Not gonna listen to a fat fuck on matters of style. Glass house, etc.
>>18579447Every waking moment. Wear them for yourself.
>>18579448This. The fact he's fat, ugly, loud and makes distorted faces without any sort of shame are enough reasons for me to not watch his videos.
>>18579447Not only the waking moments, I only wear one at night. So I can check the time when I wake up and decide if I want to get up. Only take them off for showers, saunas and sex.
>>18579186>You can get into older cartier and omegas and tudors and stuff for $3k easy.Never buy a vintage Cartier under 5k. You'll only find Must shitters in that price point.
>>18579447I dont leave my house
>>18579447I don't wear watches, I just shitpost about Rolex.
>>18579469Holy fucking based.
You know what /nawt/ stands for?>not a watch threadThat's because /nawt/ is a parody of an actual discussion about watches. Here we shit on rehaut alignment and don't actually give a shit that you went to try on a Rolex or that you bought some independent shitter./nawt/ exists above the realm of practicality, on a level where watches are archetypal designators of profound mental illness.
>>18579481This is like a metaparody of the whole watch enthusiast community, everything is flipped around.>not encouraged to share your own pics or experiences>promotes "actual discussion">literal shitposts, bait, trolling, harrassment is fine>Everyone ITT thinks they are above the so called massess>Yet they lust over the most basic mass market "luxury">Insightful>Nobody here knows anything they are talking aboutThis would be the best ironic troll general ever, if only the participants didn't think they are being honest and serious.
>>18579481>>18579491Everyone is welcome to post their watches in /nawt/.We just don't want the Shitizen faggot, the roach, "Omegachad" (he's actually an overweight darkie) and all the Seiko spammers here. If you don't like it, feel free to fuck off to the other thread.
>>18579495I'll post my Seiko and casio here all I want and if you don't like it feel free to kill yourself, bittercel.
>>18579496Bittercel has become a universal insult ITT, I love it.
>>18579481>/nawt/ exists above the realm of practicality, on a level where watches are archetypal designators of profound mental illness.kek, this should be the intro of every /nawt/ thread.
>>18579496Yeah, I know you will. It won't be the first time I notice poor people have no respect for personal space and feel the need to force themselves everywhere without even wondering if they're welcome or not. Anyone who has ever met brown people already know that unpleasant feeling.
>>18579504Enjoy your olive garden, pleb.
>>18579510I don't understand what's that supposed to mean.No need to explain btw, I really don't care about what you have to say about anything Abdul.
>>18579511Keep strawmanning, schizo.
>>18579497> Bittercel has become a universal insult ITT, I love itNo it hasn’t. We literally all know who you are.I notice that you were castrated you so badly in the thread you created that you abandoned it.
>>18579521>We literally all know who you are.>WeYes, we literally do know you, bittercel.
>>18579460This. Cheap vintage Cartier will only be Tank Must which are some of the nastiest, most regrettable shitters they ever produced.
>>18579521Never mind, he just bumped it. And within a minute of this post >>18579522>he’s so desperate
>>18579525IMO the best cheapest Cartier you can get are the Santos Galbée, which sell around 5 or 6k (you could get one around 3k like 2 years ago kek).Or a quartz Tank from a few years ago (I really like the green one).
>>18579525Cartier recognized their mistake with the Must. It was a regrettably necessary move to get some cash at the time.These days, I think they have the right balance with how far down-market their range can extend without watering the brand down to hike still maintaining the quality workmanship.If you take a look at your basic steel Santos or quartz Tank, you can tell they’re obviously impeccably put together.
>>18579543The Santos is certainly iconic but, like you said, the prices are really high right now. If you look elsewhere in their ridiculous catalog you can find really interesting value pieces. (Though those will also be … not necessarily to everyone’s taste)The Calibre de Cartier are below 3k, including the Diver.The Clé de Cartier, the Drive, the Tank Anglaise, all available below 3k.>They’re shiterrrrrrrrsI already said they weren’t to everyone’s taste, but if you want a Cartier on your wrist, you could certainly get a relatively new piece from a recently discontinued line, rather than a vermeil pseudo-Tank from the 80s.
Cartier ? Girly shitters !Rolex ? Overhyped shitters !Hublot ? Shitters for brown people !Tissot ? Poorfag shitters !Seiko ? Weaboo shitters !Patek ? Old people shitters !AP ? Negro shitters !Citiwen ? Chink shitters !Shitters shitters SHITTERS EVERYWHERE
Omega ? NASAboo shitters !Bremont? NATOboo shitters !Blancpain? Coomer shitters !Breguet? Boomer shitters !
>Why did the Rolex Submariner break up with its girlfriend?Because she couldn’t handle all the pressure when things got deep!>Why did the JLC Reverso get hired as a spy?Because it always knew how to turn its face and keep things under cover.>Why did the Cartier Tank never start a fight?Because it’s too elegant to roll into battle.
>>18579561>>18579552>>18579552>>18579552
You have 10 seconds to post the watch that makes your peepee hard these days
>>18579547>Caliber de Cartier DiverIt’s odd looking, but it is undeniably cool. It’s also the thinnest dive watch I’ve ever seen.Wearing a Cartier, any Cartier really, is just cool. It’s not as try-hard as Rolex. Not as stodgy as Patek. Not as fart-huffing as JLC.
>>18579583This Patek 5026.It's perfect. White gold, blue dial, 34mm, thin, micro-rotor.
>>18579586Good choice. I like the version with the pomme hands and Breguet numerals.
>>18579583I have severe erectile dysfunction.
>>18579587Yeah they're sexy too. The last good era of Patek.
>>18579583chadsio oceanus
>>18579201your phone is a tablet with a phone app
>>18579286whores
>>18579583The only watch I've had a hard one is the 50 fathoms, but it doesn't do that to me anymore..No watch can.I need weird trannies like that blue bitch to get my peepee hard.
>>18579583
>>18579595>The last good era of Patek.I remember reading something about how Patek lost its way when Thierry Stern took over. He simply doesn’t have the same love for the brand as his father and grandfather did. He doesn’t understand why they made the decisions they did.
>>18579481>>18579491Sums up this place remarkably well. "The Dunning-Krueger thread".
>>18579615Once you learn to filter out Bittercel’s attempts to sabotage the thread, it becomes much more coherent and enjoyable.
>>18579612It’s hard to judge Thierry Stern, because he inherited Patek at a pivotal moment (basically: keeping Patek's ultra-luxury and exclusive DNA while switching to modern process like CAD and partial industrialization).To me, it’s undeniable he's a fat Xer with shit taste. Since he took over all the classic watches have gone from 34/36mm to 40/42mm. He’s introduced a bunch of awful designs like the fauxtina Calatrava, the racing Calatrava, denim straps, the Cubitus, etc. Recently, he made a fool of himself by stating that every time Patek worked with outside designers it went badly (that's like saying that Genta and Gilbert Albert can suck his circumcised dick).That being said, you have to admit he managed to modernize Patek and keep the brand relevant despite competition from Journe, ALS, and all the independent high-end microbrands that emerged these past 10 years. Also Patek has never been more financially successful.
>>18579619He’s not a bad businessman by any stretch, but you can’t deny that Patek has lost some of its ineffable qualities that it used to have.Through the 90s, Patek’s quality was well-understood, but their aesthetic was so understated, bordering on austere, that Patek wearers were characterized as rich people who would not want to be thought of as rich. They were the same people who would get a fully-spec’ed out S-class, and ask to have it badged like a normal one.Nowadays, in the West, wealthy people are flaunting their wealth a lot more. It’s not that it’s seen as distasteful, but the rich have so little contact with poor or even middle class people anymore that they simply don’t care.For Patek to appeal To those kind of people, they can’t be small and understated. They have to be a little wild looking and get also have to make a big show of how exclusive a Patek is. Rich people love nothing more than having something other rich people can’t get.
>>18579619Name one (1) good looking Patek that is currently made. Patek is just a Rolex wannabe, same as AP.>Leaned heavily into what makes their watches recognizable from across the room.>Hired outside designers to achieve this normalfag-proof visual design.>Didn't even attempt to beat Lange and independents in finishing/decoration, just blasted advertising instead.I literally saw a PP billboard advertisement yesterday.In Dubai:>Patek, AP, Rolex, RM: Always full.>JLC, IWC, Omega, Lange, Breguet: Usually a few people.>GS, Czapek, VC: totally empty.Who gives a fuck about Stern? He obviously doesn't care about watches lol
