/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: https://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/18598659#top
I'm bald and shave my head. I sat on my Wayfarers in the club and they broke, I bought them when I still had hair so now I'm wondering if I should get a new pair or if there are frames that would suit my bald head better. Same for reading glasses, I'd like to get a new pair and I'm wondering what kind of frames would go well with a bald look?
>>18613098Sunglasses that work well on pretty much everyone:Wayfarers, or American Optical Hudsons/Saratogas if you want something similar to a Wayfarer but a little more clean and subtle. Avoid those dumb inverted wayfarers.Persol 714sClubmaster style sunglasses, not necessarily Ray Ban but Ray Bans obviously work, lots of companies make good onesAviators- American Optical or Randolph, both companies make good ones of different styles. The more squarish aviators work better than the rounder style on guys, the rounder ones work better on women.Avoid anything that wraps around your face, ESPECIALLY since you are bald.
Ho ho ho, niggers! Look what Santa brought me!>IMG_1488.jpgI swear I didn't edit that.
I'm two weeks into finasteride and I think I see some very tiny baby hairs growing in my temple where there weren't any before. Also went through a massive fucking shed this weekend like I never had before. Idk if I'm delusional or more attentive but I'm chosing to believe I'm a super responder.
>>18613224Nice breh. I wonder what the expiration date is for DHT blockers and how much you can get away with buying at once.
If one starts fin should they get a haircut? Just for the results to show better/less fraud
>>18613327I buy one year's supply of dut at a time to be safe but they say up to 2 years is fine.I imagine things like heat/air exposure/light would make a bigger difference
>>18613361If you are prone to a shedding phase then you can't go wrong with a buzz. That way your hair will grow back uniformly and you will avoid having your hair look terrible for months.>>18613326There is a biological cap of ~3 months for the hair cycle to shed and stimulate the follicle into growing in thicker. A shed within 2 weeks is not unheard of and a great sign I just wouldn't count on regrowth for at least 3 months.
>buy minoxidil because I'm clearly starting to bald>start applying for facial hair too because why not>fast forward few months>beard way thicker>balding progressesis this sometimes expected or is my balding a literal skill issue because I'm dog shit at applying it where there's hair?
>>18613709finasteride
>>18613718I think I'd rather gamble on all the new shit that's supposedly coming out soonif i have to take tabs besides just spraying shit on my head daily for years I'd rather just embrace baldness
>>18613735There's topical finasteride
>>18613736doesn't it still have like 1% of making you a eunuch?
>>18613742Maybe orally, but topical barely goes systemic i think it's equivalent to applying minox for me atleast, just go for it if you can.
>>18613744will research a bit, but even if it's like 0.5% i'm retarded enough to where I won't do shit like LASIK where the severe side effects are 1 in 10000 either, ain't gambling with something that can ruin your life for some small confidence boost
>>18613072saw a bald guy today with blacked out tattooed hair over his chrome dome, had a part tatted on it as well, it was fucking hilarious
>>18613224what's a good place to buy a year's worth of dut without having to beg anyone for a prescription?
>>18613748Why are you taking minoxidil then?
>>18613748i get more paranoid from the minoxidil that you already use
some days I feel like I'll have enough donor hair for my HT in June to get a good result and other days I don't feel confident at allit's less than an inch thick hair but still showing through to the scalp with thin gaps in the hair, gaps only go away at like 1.5-2 inches longidk man, pray for me lol
Is there any way to stop seb derm without ketoconazole shampoo?
>>18613919Let the surgeon tell you and get multiple opinions so you aren't being sold a lie.
>>18613919How bad is your balding? are you a nw6 or something? have you had a transplant before?
>>18613920I'm trying piroctone olamine 1% shampoo, it seems to be ok for maintenance but I think 2% ketoconazole is probably better, I've only tried 1% ketoconazole though.
>>18613327Email and ask the pharmacy about the expiry date of their current stock. Could even do this before getting a prescription and place your order accordingly. Mine are good until 08/2027. I bet they'd be good for at least a year or two after that also if stored well.>>18613768Is it your first time using dut or do you have a prescription from before?
>>18613748Good thing you know you're retarded, even if you were to get side effects they'd only be temporary, so you're throwing away the only viable solution to not going bald without even trying it.
>>18614013I've been using this and it barely works, sucks that you need a prescription for ketocanozole.
>>18614112When I first went to my dermatologist for AGA he suggested this, werked well at the time but kept getting less effective I felt like.I heard from someone on the skincare general that you're supposed to switch your antifungal regularly. Here are some examples: zinc pyrithione, selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine, sulphurLet me know if you find something that works well.
Anyone tried washing their hair with eggs yet?
>>18613811worst you can get from minoxidil is low blood pressure that causes headaches and dizziness that you can easily fixworst you can get from finasteride is turning into the opposite sexI'd rather place my bets on minoxidil
>>18614112i can easily find 2% ketoconazole shampoo on facebook marketplace.
Dut is better than fin right? Is there any way for normies to get it or do I have to do some weird back channel shit?
>>18614368I told you it's not a fair comparison when you compare oral fin vs topical min, when it comes to topical fin vs topical min it's a negligible difference if anything min is more problematic because people apply more and it comes in higher precentages i get low blood pressure from topical min sometimes but no sides from topical fin, also please don't be stupid, most the new shit you said you were ok with gambling on work on similar hormonal mechanisms and would be more dangerous since they are new and that's if they come out, it's called androgenetic alopecia for a reason.
>>18614394if the new shit has same side effects as fin I ain't taking that eitherI'm glad it's working for you but it doesn't mean i doesn't happen, there's a reason why a lot of trichologist are bald or why ophthalmologist wear glasses rather than doing laser surgery
Use spironolactone. Spironolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-estrogen for female to male HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically lower risk of sexual side effects in men.I’ve been on spiro for a few months now and the results are nothing short of legendary. Spiro is the ultimate anabolic tonic that sends test levels skyrocketing. I have >thicker, fuller hair: my temples which had been thinning are filling back in rapidly>facial hair renaissance: patchy beards are a thing of the past. Spiro turbo-charges follicle activity The science is settled: spiro cranks up test production and unleashes it directly at the follicular level. Dermatologists call it “anabolic follicular supercharging.”If you’re ready to stop playing with bullshit like minoxidil and want to grow a mane worthy of a Norse god, you need to buy spiro. Just don’t forget to get a bigger comb.
>>18614261Never using shampoo means you're letting DHT rich sebum marinate in your hair, accelerating hair loss, this gets made 10x worse if you fap a lot.
>>18614425>astronomically> legendary>ultimate>skyrocketing>facial hair renaissance>turbo-charges>mane worthy of a Norse god
>>18614026>is this your first time using dutYeah I get a 90ct no refill prescription dispensed every few months from dr.b, is that enough?
>>18614414The sides are honestly overblown because of the association with oral 5aris but those are overblown too, if as many people took oral min u would hear just as many horror stories if not more. I know all of this by experience since i had side effects on the lowest dose of oral fin, but they mostly went away after discontinuation and switching to topical.I'm a hypochondriac too and scared of surgeries and i can tell you you are definitely blowing this out of proportion, just do your own research.
>>18614431I did and decided not to take fin, but thanks
>>18614433You're welcome, it's your own decision to make.
>>18614428Yes, and?
How long does shedding last on topical min?
>>18614008>How bad is your balding? are you a nw6 or something?it's bad>have you had a transplant before?nope
>>18614579oof
>>18614368No thats not the worst lol. It would take some incredible stupidity but you can in theory die from minoxidil. Not by a long shot is minoxidil safer than finasteride. Both of perfectly safe when taken properly though.
Dutasteride finally came in. Gonna keep my hair lads
>>18614731You got dutasteride beans?!
>>18614579I think you can fill in the back. Are you planning on touching the front too? For long have you been on meds?
>>18614429I booked a chronic refill appointment at EUdoctor, showed them my old prescription and was able to get as many capsules as I wanted prescribed. The prescription is valid in all EU countries, so I had 1.5 year's worth of capsules imported from Germany.Chill doctor, no begging. He just warned me about the expiration date.
tick tock baldies
Just started taking fin 1mg about a week or so ago. How long does it normally take for most people to hault/slow hair loss, as opposed to seeing signs of regrowth? Or does the former still take 3-6 months?
>>18615072As soon as it works it way to the follicles, so 1-2 weeks
my derma finally approved a prescription for finasteride. I've been on oral min for 4 months and my hairline has been growing back. I'm not there yet, but close to norwood 1 again.Anything I should know before hopping on fin?
>>18615271>Anything I should know before hopping on fin?Just do it pussy. Stop if you get bad sides. Simple as.
