/balding/ and /finasteride/ general - hair is love, hair is life!Sticky: http://tuxbell.com/index.php/BaldingReminder that if you can clearly see down to your scalp when your hair is wet, your hair is thinning, lots of small new hairs sprouting at the hairline or crown is a sign of hair recession.Holy trinity:Tabs: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FinasterideLotion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MinoxidilShampoo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KetoconazoleFinasteride/Dutasteride are 5-alpha reductase inhibitors that prevent free T from being converted to DHT, a byproduct of testosterone that serves no purpose after puberty but to choke out your hair follicles and make them thin out and die in a few short years, a condition known as androgenic alopecia.5ar inhibitors prevent your hair from getting any worse, mild regrowth is expected, rapid onset diffuse thinners see a significant recovery on fin alone. Can be taken orally or topically.5ARIs are not dosage dependent, taking as little as as 0.2mg daily fin can reduce serum DHT by 68%, while 5mg reduces by 72%.0.5mg daily dut reduces serum DHT by 95%, but is considered a second line treatment, and can be more expensive and harder to get prescribed. Start with fin.Fin has been used to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) for 30+ years, it's very well studied and is tolerated well in almost all men, however, there's a 1-2% risk of erectile issues in controlled studies.These can be avoided by reducing dosage, spacing out dosage, or stopping the drug. Fin takes days to fully bio-accumulate, the half life of fin is about 8 hours, adverse effects occuring within minutes of starting fin or persisting long after stopping fin are not real and have no basis in reality. Please note that dut has a much higher half-life of 5 weeks, if you're prone to fin sides, dut may cause them for far longer.Refer to https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ before responding to PFS trolls.
Minoxidil (liquid and tabs) is a vasodialator that opens potassium channels and widens blood vessels bringing nutrients to your hair follicles, stimulating them into thickening, accelerating growth and elongating the growth phase. Min is taken with fin to restore your hair to it's original hairline, thickness and vigor when hair loss is caught early enough, (pre-NW2). Can be taken orally or topically.Topical min does not work in 1/3 of men because they lack the required enzymes in their scalp, all men have this enzyme in their liver so the oral route is a good fallback.The FDA formulation for 5% liquid minoxidil is food safe (vape juice, ethanol and water) and can be safely taken orally if oral min tabs are expensive or rarely prescribed where you live. As a general rule, ~4 drops (0.1ml) = 5mg minoxidil.There's a 1-2% risk of fluid retention with higher oral dosages, start with the lowest dosage possible and work your way up when you're sure it's well tolerated.Ketoconazole is an anti-androgen and antifungal that inhibits DHT on the scalp and used to treat fungal infections of the scalp that may be making your hair loss worse such as seborrheic dermatitis, a condition where you exhibit severe greasy, flaky large dandruff flakes with dried yellow crystals (blood plasma) embedded in the scalp. Some people may only have traction alopecia (hair loss from scratching or friction), but it will not cure androgenic alopecia on it's own. Can only be taken topically.Do not use spirolactone. Spirolactone is a diuretic which, in large doses, inhibits testosterone and, by extension, DHT.It is regularly prescribed as an anti-androgen for male to female HRT, and thus, comes with an astronomically higher risk of sexual side effects in men including ED, gynecomastia, and can cause potassium toxicity.Previous thread: https://boards.4chan.org/fa/thread/18598659#top
I'm bald and shave my head. I sat on my Wayfarers in the club and they broke, I bought them when I still had hair so now I'm wondering if I should get a new pair or if there are frames that would suit my bald head better. Same for reading glasses, I'd like to get a new pair and I'm wondering what kind of frames would go well with a bald look?
>>18613098Sunglasses that work well on pretty much everyone:Wayfarers, or American Optical Hudsons/Saratogas if you want something similar to a Wayfarer but a little more clean and subtle. Avoid those dumb inverted wayfarers.Persol 714sClubmaster style sunglasses, not necessarily Ray Ban but Ray Bans obviously work, lots of companies make good onesAviators- American Optical or Randolph, both companies make good ones of different styles. The more squarish aviators work better than the rounder style on guys, the rounder ones work better on women.Avoid anything that wraps around your face, ESPECIALLY since you are bald.
Ho ho ho, niggers! Look what Santa brought me!>IMG_1488.jpgI swear I didn't edit that.
I'm two weeks into finasteride and I think I see some very tiny baby hairs growing in my temple where there weren't any before. Also went through a massive fucking shed this weekend like I never had before. Idk if I'm delusional or more attentive but I'm chosing to believe I'm a super responder.
>>18613224Nice breh. I wonder what the expiration date is for DHT blockers and how much you can get away with buying at once.
If one starts fin should they get a haircut? Just for the results to show better/less fraud
>>18613327I buy one year's supply of dut at a time to be safe but they say up to 2 years is fine.I imagine things like heat/air exposure/light would make a bigger difference
>>18613361If you are prone to a shedding phase then you can't go wrong with a buzz. That way your hair will grow back uniformly and you will avoid having your hair look terrible for months.>>18613326There is a biological cap of ~3 months for the hair cycle to shed and stimulate the follicle into growing in thicker. A shed within 2 weeks is not unheard of and a great sign I just wouldn't count on regrowth for at least 3 months.
>buy minoxidil because I'm clearly starting to bald>start applying for facial hair too because why not>fast forward few months>beard way thicker>balding progressesis this sometimes expected or is my balding a literal skill issue because I'm dog shit at applying it where there's hair?
>>18613709finasteride
>>18613718I think I'd rather gamble on all the new shit that's supposedly coming out soonif i have to take tabs besides just spraying shit on my head daily for years I'd rather just embrace baldness
>>18613735There's topical finasteride
>>18613736doesn't it still have like 1% of making you a eunuch?
>>18613742Maybe orally, but topical barely goes systemic i think it's equivalent to applying minox for me atleast, just go for it if you can.
>>18613744will research a bit, but even if it's like 0.5% i'm retarded enough to where I won't do shit like LASIK where the severe side effects are 1 in 10000 either, ain't gambling with something that can ruin your life for some small confidence boost
>>18613072saw a bald guy today with blacked out tattooed hair over his chrome dome, had a part tatted on it as well, it was fucking hilarious
>>18613224what's a good place to buy a year's worth of dut without having to beg anyone for a prescription?
>>18613748Why are you taking minoxidil then?
>>18613748i get more paranoid from the minoxidil that you already use
some days I feel like I'll have enough donor hair for my HT in June to get a good result and other days I don't feel confident at allit's less than an inch thick hair but still showing through to the scalp with thin gaps in the hair, gaps only go away at like 1.5-2 inches longidk man, pray for me lol
Is there any way to stop seb derm without ketoconazole shampoo?
>>18613919Let the surgeon tell you and get multiple opinions so you aren't being sold a lie.
>>18613919How bad is your balding? are you a nw6 or something? have you had a transplant before?
>>18613920I'm trying piroctone olamine 1% shampoo, it seems to be ok for maintenance but I think 2% ketoconazole is probably better, I've only tried 1% ketoconazole though.
>>18613327Email and ask the pharmacy about the expiry date of their current stock. Could even do this before getting a prescription and place your order accordingly. Mine are good until 08/2027. I bet they'd be good for at least a year or two after that also if stored well.>>18613768Is it your first time using dut or do you have a prescription from before?
>>18613748Good thing you know you're retarded, even if you were to get side effects they'd only be temporary, so you're throwing away the only viable solution to not going bald without even trying it.
>>18614013I've been using this and it barely works, sucks that you need a prescription for ketocanozole.
>>18614112When I first went to my dermatologist for AGA he suggested this, werked well at the time but kept getting less effective I felt like.I heard from someone on the skincare general that you're supposed to switch your antifungal regularly. Here are some examples: zinc pyrithione, selenium sulfide, piroctone olamine, sulphurLet me know if you find something that works well.
Anyone tried washing their hair with eggs yet?
>>18613811worst you can get from minoxidil is low blood pressure that causes headaches and dizziness that you can easily fixworst you can get from finasteride is turning into the opposite sexI'd rather place my bets on minoxidil
>>18614112i can easily find 2% ketoconazole shampoo on facebook marketplace.
Dut is better than fin right? Is there any way for normies to get it or do I have to do some weird back channel shit?
>>18614368I told you it's not a fair comparison when you compare oral fin vs topical min, when it comes to topical fin vs topical min it's a negligible difference if anything min is more problematic because people apply more and it comes in higher precentages i get low blood pressure from topical min sometimes but no sides from topical fin, also please don't be stupid, most the new shit you said you were ok with gambling on work on similar hormonal mechanisms and would be more dangerous since they are new and that's if they come out, it's called androgenetic alopecia for a reason.
>>18614394if the new shit has same side effects as fin I ain't taking that eitherI'm glad it's working for you but it doesn't mean i doesn't happen, there's a reason why a lot of trichologist are bald or why ophthalmologist wear glasses rather than doing laser surgery
>>18614261Never using shampoo means you're letting DHT rich sebum marinate in your hair, accelerating hair loss, this gets made 10x worse if you fap a lot.
>>18614425>astronomically> legendary>ultimate>skyrocketing>facial hair renaissance>turbo-charges>mane worthy of a Norse god
>>18614026>is this your first time using dutYeah I get a 90ct no refill prescription dispensed every few months from dr.b, is that enough?
>>18614414The sides are honestly overblown because of the association with oral 5aris but those are overblown too, if as many people took oral min u would hear just as many horror stories if not more. I know all of this by experience since i had side effects on the lowest dose of oral fin, but they mostly went away after discontinuation and switching to topical.I'm a hypochondriac too and scared of surgeries and i can tell you you are definitely blowing this out of proportion, just do your own research.
>>18614431I did and decided not to take fin, but thanks
>>18614433You're welcome, it's your own decision to make.
How long does shedding last on topical min?
>>18614008>How bad is your balding? are you a nw6 or something?it's bad>have you had a transplant before?nope
>>18614579oof
>>18614368No thats not the worst lol. It would take some incredible stupidity but you can in theory die from minoxidil. Not by a long shot is minoxidil safer than finasteride. Both of perfectly safe when taken properly though.
Dutasteride finally came in. Gonna keep my hair lads
>>18614731You got dutasteride beans?!
>>18614579I think you can fill in the back. Are you planning on touching the front too? For long have you been on meds?
>>18614429I booked a chronic refill appointment at EUdoctor, showed them my old prescription and was able to get as many capsules as I wanted prescribed. The prescription is valid in all EU countries, so I had 1.5 year's worth of capsules imported from Germany.Chill doctor, no begging. He just warned me about the expiration date.
tick tock baldies
Just started taking fin 1mg about a week or so ago. How long does it normally take for most people to hault/slow hair loss, as opposed to seeing signs of regrowth? Or does the former still take 3-6 months?
>>18615072As soon as it works it way to the follicles, so 1-2 weeks
my derma finally approved a prescription for finasteride. I've been on oral min for 4 months and my hairline has been growing back. I'm not there yet, but close to norwood 1 again.Anything I should know before hopping on fin?
>>18615271>Anything I should know before hopping on fin?Just do it pussy. Stop if you get bad sides. Simple as.
Do I have to go to a tricologist or can just a regular dermatologist help me out?
>>18615838telehealth is better especially in the US, just avoid the vertically integrated scams like keeps with overpriced fin, legitimate telehealth sites will send your prescription anywhere you want.
genuinely looking forward to VDPLH01 and PP405 but they are still years away, 2028 at the earliestShit sucks, man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu6dr_B4oVkwhitepill grenade2026 and beyond is looking very cool for hair loss research
For seborrheic dermatitis I've considered using a tree bark native to Mexico called tepezcohuite that apparently has anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, and anti-fungal affects, I think it's worth a shot.
>>18616076everything will take 5 years to get the marketcompany who made it will have exclusivity so a monopoly to make prices ridiculousyou have to face the facts. there's nothing better than fin. the copes need to end.
You need so little DHT to rape your temples if you carry DHT sensitivity genes it's crazy. A lot of white women have zero temples and just long peach fuzz there.https://www.instagram.com/eleonora_kazaku/p/C9peJAQIWqn/and young niggas think they can recover temples on fucking dutasteride.
>>18614261It's good but I can smell the egg.
>>18616869I'll be a hyper responder
>>18616869I recovered temples with oral min, it's definitely possible even if your whole body is working against you.
>>18616918I don't buy it. post pic, chud.
>>18613735>coming out soonLOLYou're not getting any of that research shit for the next few years, unless you got a source that can hook you up somehow. And within that time you'll be bald as fuck broski.
>>18616847VDPHL01 (extended-release oral min) will overtake Fin/Dut as the main drug used in 5 years.95% reported satisfaction and aesthetic improvement after 4 months with no serious sides is insane. Average increase of 47 hairs/cm2 after 4 months is fucking insane.Not only is this thing more effective than either topical or oral minoxidil it's at least as safe as topical min, if not safer. The idea behind the drug is brilliant. The 5% who didn't report satisfaction will likely either just need to wait an additional 2 months or so to see improvement or can increase the dose. The drug is specifically tailored to reach very high doses of min. One cohort is taking 17mg of VDPHL01 per day. That's over 3 times the dose of 5mg oral min. Phase 2 trials were a big success and phase 3 trials for men is already underway. This will complete in 2026 and they will begin looking for approval. Could even come to market earlier than 2027. It's a new delivery mechanism of an existing drug rather than a brand new drug, approval will be very simple.
>>18617174I thought min just stimulated blood flow to the scalp to help stimulate growth in healthy hairs or sort of fake it by half-reviving balding follicles, but didn't address the root cause of DHT buildup like fin or dut. Why's this different?
>>18617217https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT12U_YmdjQ
>>18613072is there a reason why i have the worst scalp and hair in the entire family?my mother has dense hair even in her 50s, never dry or frizzy, zero dandruff on her scalpbrother isn't going through hair loss despite being older than me, also doesn't have dandruff as bad as minei'm here spending over $10k every year on dut and keto, only to see continue seeing some hair fall and immense dandruff on my entire scalpis it something to do with what products they use for hair care? as far as i know, they only use almond oil and don't use keto shampoo, while i'm using a mix of castor, rosemary, coconut, olive and argan
>>18617174what about people who get side effects from like 1.25mg oral min or 5% topical min? wouldn't they not tolerate this too then?
>>18617716The entire point of the drug is to remove the cardiac side effects and other serious/bothersome ones. The drug doesn't enter your bloodstream right away and never hits a point where it goes beyond the cardioprotective level. The phase 2 study they did showed zero cardiac events. The extended-releases method also means your liver comes into contact with the minoxidil for longer, producing more minoxidil sulfate than either immediate release version (topical or oral) meaning it's both safer and more efficacious.
>>18617723does it affect blood pressure at all?
I've been taking 1mg of oral Finasteride since March. I haven't noticed any progress. Am I a non-responder or do I need to keep waiting?
>>18617871post hairline. the results are usually jsut an increase in density but yeah it can take way more than 6-8 months. were you consistent i.e. daily? did you do the same exact dose.
>>18613072is it over? i'm 48. thinking of getting transplant to return to 17 year old teen heartthob chad density. as a boomer, money is no obstacle.lately i've been showing the barber a pic of leo from titanic and ask for the "jack" haircut.
Apparently, minoxidil has a 30% chance of being useless for you if the SULT1A1 gene, which converts minoxidil to its active for in your body, isn't configured properly. The Ancestry DNA test I took didn't test for this gene, so I have no idea how it's configured in my DNA. This leaves me with 2 options: buy minoxidil and hope that it works, or buy an overpriced test specifically for SULT1A1. I hate my gay life.
>>18618508Generic minoxidil is like $20 for 6 bottles at Costco or $12 for 90 tablets (rx). Just run it. Topical is nice because you can get it OTC, but it's a pain in the ass imo and it's poisonous to pets. Oral is apparently better for people with low sulfotransferase enzyme activity and it's way easier to stay consistent with. The downside is a greater chance of side effects.
>>18618508Just use tretinoin
>>18615271If you have high estrogen / history of gyno then titrate the dose slowly up to 1mg 3x/week over a month or two and pay attention for high estrogen symptoms
Does oral minoxidil give you more body hair? Main reason I'm staying off of it is cause I don't want to mess with the heart and I heard it gives you alot of additional body hair. Regarding fin, for whatever reason I find finasteride produced by the local pharmacy to be much better tolerated than industrial made pills.They also much cheaper which is a nice bonus.
>>18618528it will. it varies from person to person. i don't mind. at 2.5mg the potential for side effects is pretty low. the typical minimum dose when prescribed for blood pressure is 5mg.I think most mass produced fin comes from India (mine included) so i'm sure human shit is very prevalent in the production process
>>18618510I tried topical before, but I experienced a rather severe allergic reaction in the form of a burning sensation. It's good to hear that oral is apparently better since that's what I was planning to try next. What're the side effects you speak of? I don't mind ignorable effects like a lack of libido, but gynecomastia would scare me.>>18618512Besides the cost, is there any downside to using it?
>>18618550>What're the side effectsAre you talking about oral finasteride or minoxidil? With oral min the side effects most people get at 2.5mg are arrhythmia and maybe slight water retention in the face. It was originally developed as a blood pressure medication so at higher doses it will lower your blood pressure. You should take more caution if you have low blood pressure or a predisposition to heart problems. But ultimately, it's the best in class drug for hair growth.>allergic reactionI don't think you can really be allergic to min or fin. Most likely you had a damaged/dry scalp or you had a reaction to the propylene glycol in the formula. You can look into other topical formulations without propylene glycol, since a lot of people get irritation from it. Compounding pharmacies can do this too.
People are so fucking scared of a little pill they think they're gonna get arrythmias just from putting liquid on their head it's fucking unreal.
25 and seeing thisIs this resolvable through just resuming a vitamin regimen or should I be taking some sort of medication?
>>18618869Probably a better angle actually.In my family, baldness usually happens really fast around 18-20. I have a cowlick so I’m not sure if this is just my hair ‘settling’ or something to genuinely be worried about.
Am I balding? ftm
>>18618879>>18618869You are balding, looks like diffuse thinning, start on finasteride asap or you'll regret it.
>>18618929derma won't give it to him. still dense enough in their eyes sadly.
>>18618801i have ongoing eye pain from taking 1.25mg oral minoxidil for just 2 months
I'm 20 days into finasteride and my hair is shedding like crazy and looking really thin, I know that's a good sign and it has to get worse before it gets better but still this shit is brutal. Now I'm in for the journey. I have to be.
>>18615072>>18617871Just take your pills and forget about it. You'll likely never notice a large consistent difference. I'm 2 years in and I'm still not sure if I maintained or if something changed, which might be a good thing in and of itself.
>>1861899865 percent of men experience noticeable hair regrowth with finasteride in clinical trials. When using minoxidil and finasteride that number goes up to like 85 percent. You just got unlucky. Maybe it’s time to try Dutasteride.
>>18618964Get it online through a telehealth service. Your derm hasn't invested even a fraction of time towards balding compared to a lot of us. They won't prescribe until you have a big bald spot like it shows in their textbooks.
I've been living in EU for two years now (was 24, now I'm 26) and I've noticed that my hair has started to thin in the forehead, when I came here from Brazil my hair was thick and even a bit curly a bit like this>>18614331, now it's flat and straight.Today I went to my barber (he's also from the same country) and he confirmed my suspicion, which made me panic a bit inside.He says the water quality here is different from were we are from, and he sees lots of kids as old as 18 already thinning and even women too.What can I do? I love having hair....
>>18618986View it as motivation. When you shed all your weak hairs and the new ones start to grow in, you can compare the new, short layer to the old, long layer to get an idea of what you'd look like if you really went bald (just imagine if the short layer wasn't there). For me for example I'd have the horseshoe+tuft at the front if I wasn't on it.
>>18619200It's nothing to do with the water it's just in our genes one of the big nerfs is having shit hair if you're european. Even if you're not receding your follicular diameter is still smaller than every other race except for black people. You probably el ogro de las hispanicano which means espanol or italiano genes so you're fucked as most Caucasians are. go on finasteride and that's that.
>>18619297I mean isn't weird how this was never a problem before I left the country?For genetics my dad shaves his head so I don't know what's his hairline now, but on older photos when he was my age he had a head full of hair, my older brother who is 36 is receding a bit but his hair still has volume unlike me now.
>>18619329you're in that age range where ueropeans start norwooding.
>>18619330But I'm not european....
>>18619333you probably have european blood. some of the brownest south americans have euro blood: https://old.reddit.com/r/23andme/comments/1ptic2d/mexican_born_in_the_usa_with_pic/it's why african americans are fucked as well. wherever we go we bring the reaper with us.
>>18619338But does it happen so fast like me? as far as I know, when I'm taking a shower I'm shedding 5 to 10 hairs even though I don't claw on my scalp but I massage it instead, pic related was taken on the beginning of the year and my hair still had some volume.
>start balding aggressively at 16 >years later finally accept it and shave it down >bald + light beard look >Start getting more compliments, "You look younger" etc>Months later beard begins aggressively whitening Holy fuck why can't I have anything nice
>>18619339it's possible, yes. just go check with a derma.
>>18619401Thanks
I have pretty bad psoriasis, and I've been on oral minox and finasteride for about a year and have had not much progress.Can psoriasis make oral minoxidil less effective? The parts that are missing the most hair don't have any scaling, however. I plan on going to the dermatlogist as soon as I can, should I look into getting dutasteride, or should I just try to clear up my scalp psoriasis first?
>>18619538Why would you be taking finasteride if your hair loss is related to psoriasis?
Has anyone that used Minoxidil for a while eventually tapered off their usage and replaced it with a natural remedy and saw results? What have you used? I've been using it for about 7 years now but was thinking of stopping because i've been wondering if it has been contributing to my anxiety. As far as the effectiveness of Minoxidil for me, I like to think my shedding of hair has slowed down a little, but I don't think it I have seen a really noticeable improvement.
>>18619582I'm not sure if it is. I'm pretty sure it's (mostly) MPB, but I feel some of it may be related to psoriasis.
>>18619538Psoriasis can accelerate male pattern baldness due to the constant scalp inflammation. I'm in the same situation (scalp psoriasis, definitely MPB in my case) and I started balding 5-10 years younger than my dad. You can use topical corticosteroids for flare-ups (otc or rx) but on the long term you should get on medication, unless you're willing to do the GAPS diet
>>18619637>but on the long term you should get on medicationDutasteride, or something for psoriasis? The main reason I'm hesitant to say that it's affecting me at all is that the areas with the least hair don't have any scaling.
>>18619653For psoriasis.>areas with the least hair don't have any scalingSun exposure can resolve psoriasis
>>18614261what's this guy called again? Tried to find his youtube channel with no successanyway I'm gonna try the 10 minute scalp massage method and avoid any cosmetic products. My barber fucked up my hairstyle recently so why not test this while my hair is in a awkward phase. wish me luck anons
>>18619612No such thing. If you've been exclusively on minoxidil for 7 years and you drop it now there is probably a norwood 6 underneath.
>>18619815selfmaxxer, try not eating gluten, it helps a lot
>>18619752I don't really go outside nearly enough for exposure to make a difference.I'm mainly wondering how much psoriasis is affecting my hairloss. The entirety of my scalp, save for the parts that are actually bald, have scaling. Which makes me wonder if it's even contributing to my hairloss at all. Can psoriasis get in the way of oral minoxidil hair growth?
>>18620094I've also been using T-sal for months and it's done nothing for my dandruff, dryness, or psoriasis, if that matters.
>>18618508would u buy an at home pcr test just for just this gene? how much would u pay?
my hairline has been receding since I was 16I'm 26 nowIs it too late to start on the fin etcI only care about it now because I saw a picture of my uncle's hair at 30 today and if it's that bad I'm just hang myself.
>>18620153No you will maintain what you have currently and see some improvements. Realistically you won't be able to go back to a pre balding hairline without a transplant. Nothing wrong with maintaining a receded hairline when the alternative is bald.
>>18620153post hairline. it's never too late but it's like teeth once it's rotted it's rotted nothing you can do. you're not getting back a NW1 but you might get back some density and maybe a milimeeter of hairline.
Anyone here on bicalutamide
Took Fin for about six months, good results, but it gave me Tachycardia while I was on it so I had to stop and now I'm back to losing it again. Options? From what I understand Minox has the same problem.
>>18620853how?
>>18620859What do you mean now? It's literally in the possibilities of adverse reactions. It's just labeled as rapid or unstable heat rate, it doesn't say "tachycardia" because that's the medical term.
>>18620853You can try making your own topical dutasteride solution, it's effective(not as effective as oral fin or dut but still) and iirc doesn't go systemic
>>18620853You’ve spent too much time on Reddit.
>>18620799Did your male body odor go away?
>>18621250Do you think I'm lying? Lol.
6 months on fin. I don’t think I’ve gotten any balder. If I have, it’s been very minor. Haven’t seen any growth either. Hopefully 2026 is the year I see some kind of result.
How do you deal with the increased peach fuzz from oral min?I already have to remove the darkened peach fuzz from my earlobes and t-zone, I'm probably gonna have to start shaving my forehead pretty soon.
>>18621559Pull them out with tweezers and eventually they don't regrow. Check around your eyes too they start around the cheek bone
>5 days on fin>sex drive is completely gone>dick still works and I can still jerk it>i just don't feel the need to jack off, like everthat's... good I guess?
>>18621833> sex drive> don't feel the need to jack offCan you really draw conclusions on your sex drive if you're not having sex?
>>18613072Rate hairline. Been on min for like a year now.
33, always had a visible crown but I feel like lost a lot of hair in this area recently (only the crown). I do have a poor sleeping schedule and I smoke weed. I know fixiing my sleeping schedule can help but is weed related to hair loss?Also, what treatment I can make at an institude or supplements I can take for hair? I feel like I'm not really balding but I'm not sure. I got minoxidil and finstaride from my brother. I started microneedling and rosemary oil application.
>>18621949Anymore recession and it will look like shit
>>18620094Idk, that would be a question for a dermatologist honestly
>>18621949It looks like all your hairs are of differing length. Do you cut your own hair or something?
>>18621974Unless you have physically damaged your scalp at the crown area which is basically a 0% chance then yes you are balding in a very typical way. Microneedling is a waste of time if you are not taking the finasteride and minoxidil. Rosemary oil does nothing.
>>18620931Even one dose of topical dutasteride weekly gave me bad side effects (low energy, brain fog, nip sensitivity). I'm on oral fin now and it's fine. It could be because of my psoriasis, maybe my skin barrier was weakened and allowed the dutasteride to go systemic, but I doubt that's the case>>18620153Post hairline or tell us your Norwood level>>18620171Recessed temples actually look good on some guys (picrel)>>18621974You're definitely thinning in the crown area. It's also possible you're thinning in other areas or receding from the front but I can't tell from the photo. Finasteride and minoxidil are the most important. Microneedling will enhance the effect of minoxidil. Don't use any topicals on the scalp for 24 hours after microneedling. You can also add ketoconazole shampoo. 1% is available over the counter as Nizoral, 2% is prescription but it's ideal. Take a multivitamin plus vitamin D and fish oil, maybe iron and zinc.
>>18622004>Even one dose of topical dutasteride weekly gave me bad side effectsI got the same, but Dutasteride works. The coverage is crazy. You don't have to do a full dose. You can microdose and it'll still work. I think I put on like half a dose every other week and it still works.
>>18621990haven't cut my hair in like 4 years. as for the short hairs those might be from when I started min.
>>18621990>>18622019How big of a problem is this? Is there any way to fix it?
>>18614579can something like this be fixed?for me it also looks as bad as this but higher up and smaller.
>>18622241You can generally drop 2 Norwood levels with meds but anything more would require transplants, some ppl see miracles happen so ymmv
>>18614579>>18622241>>18622250even this is fixable with meds and transplants,how do you cope until you get there?you first have to wait 6-12 months to see if the meds are working and only then you should think about going to the surgeon.do you go bald?do you let your hair grow and try to hide this with a dut or ponytail like a fegit?or is this a case for dont even bother with all of this and you start looking into hair systems.
MY HAIR IS THINNING AND FALLING OUT WHAT DO I DO AHHHH
>>18621999>>18622004Trips of truth are sometimes so cruel. Ok time for damage control then. I know I must apply minoxidil everyday but what about Finasteride, is it also a daily thing?
>>18621940I don't think i've gone more than a week without jacking off since I was like 13This shit is insane, I'm almost up to a week without touching my dick effortlessly. Last time I went this long I started going insane and dming girls off snapchat
>>18622540fin + min daily for the rest of your lifeif you're in the early balding stages you can subsist with only min, but you will need fin eventuallythe easiest way is to get some generic prescription for pills, 2.5mg min and 1 mg fin. take both of them once each day. that's it. no need to do anything else, if in 6 months your hair loss gets worse then maybe you need to look into other shit, but fin + min will cover 95% of guys.
>>18622556Ok thanks, I'll get an apointment with my doctor, I needed to see him anyway. I have a last question. My brother had the side effect of the libido going down with fin. Are these side effects more or less likely to be felt with pills? Any other major symtoms?>>18622555Shit I guess this anon answered it. I think I'll wait a little bit before starting fin. I have like two dates coming up next weekend and this usually never happens to me
>>18622560There is no point in waiting you will just make your hair worse and a full recovery will be harder/impossible depending on how long you delay it. Side effects are psychological for the most part and besides you can always address them after you have stabilized your hair. There is no plan b for your hair, it is eventually fin no matter what you do so take it before you need transplants on top of it.
>>18622657
>>186130725,000 year old corpse has more hair than you
>>18618508alternatively just buy the new sulfated version and bypass it, post back with results (should work 100% if it's true) https://folligenz.com/product/sulfogenz-10-liposomal-minoxidil-sulfate/
been on minoxidil and finasteride for a month now, originally my dermatologist didn’t think I was balding but I told him my dad is bald and older brother started balding. Thankfully, he prescribed me the meds. I decided to just check to see if I had any noticeable changes. Zoom in on the top of the picture.am I crazy or are these vellus hairs? Does this mean I was actually balding?
>>18622867Didn't know fin existed back then
>>18623057If it's your hairline/midscalp/crown then it is always balding.
Finasteride 1 Mg for 9.5 months. I don't think it's working...
>>18623489
>>18623489Fin doesn't really regrow hair, you need to add in minoxidil and microneedling
dut and at least 10mg oral min daily and you should see your temples fill back in, guaranteed
>>18622867Maybe there's something to mummification as a hair loss regimen. I'll need to look into it...
>>18623498Fin does regrow hair idiot, in fact minoxidil can only make existing hairs thicker. You use them together to increase overall density but fin alone is the much more effective treatment if you have regrowth potential.
>>18623489Could be a few things>your DHT sensitivity is so bad blocking it at 50% with fin isn't cutting itSwitch to dut>your alopecia is not androgeneticGo check with a doctor to see if you have thyroid problems>you waited too long to get on treatment and now all your recessed follicles are covered by scar tissueOnly way to solve this one is a hair transplant, sorry broski.
>>18623489Fin starts working after 1 year for a lot of people2 years is when you know if it did anything or not. For Dut it's half that, so 1 year to see if it does anything.
>>18623491Looks like a super aggressive diffuse pattern or what is way more common in women not so much men (not impossible) so maybe get a second opinion on it. If it's not gotten worse in that year of fin then it's almost certainly just balding though.
>>18623491>>18623696It's called telogen effluvium, typically caused by stress, vitamin deficiencies, thyroid disorders, etc
I'm a 30 year old ethnic Italian and it's actually uncanny how much I look like Tony Soprano. I work in a professional setting where I wear nice clothes like him as well, and the image just comes together on its own. I'm divorced with four kids, who I have full time, and everyone treats me like I have seniority over them, between my appearance, my position, and my family. Do I just accept this state of being, or do I try to fight the Norwood 5/6 I have at this point? I didn't give a shit about preserving my hair because I was married with kids already when it started, but now that my wife is out of the picture I'm starting to feel pretty lonely and am wondering if having a full head of hair again would make a difference. However, does the Soprano look "work"? Should I just roll with it and accept my lot in life?
>>18624484You have a family.You have no idea how blessed you are.
>>18624484You can take 1 pill per day to lock your hair where it is now indefinitely. Picrel is not a nw5 or 6, he is more like a 4 with great density beyond the hairline. If you have this norwood already you can maintain it otherwise it will progress into something unsightly and you will need to shave it off one day. Even if you're clearly balding finasteride is a no brainer if you like the way it looks.
I hit the 2 year finasteride mark last month and checked photos of my hair. I used to have thinning on the sides of the head around the ear area. Now it looks like the thinning area has progressed beyond my ear area towards the back. Man, retrogade alopecia is suffering. Any anons with retrograde alopecia with success stories?
>>18621974holy shit are you me? take finasteride, comb your hair back in the shower, let god do the rest
>Don't take spiroLol ok unc. But many of us are making huge gains on spiro so... you're retarded.
>>18625205post YOUR gains, not trans timeline pics from 7 years ago
Bluds, I'm like 5 months in on fin and 2 months in on oral minoxidilWhen does my bald spot start filling in?Starting to get worried
>18 months on 1mg fin>6 months on 2.5mg minStill balding. Should I up min to 5mg?
>>18621974>is weed related to hair lossEven if it's not, weed is a bottom-tier drug for losers, so you should stop doing it anyway.
>>18625269Mine is starting to with topical fin and min + tretinoin at 1 month currently
>>18625388If you're still balding the only thing that can help you is switching to dut. Minoxidil DOES NOT stop the progression of your alopecia. Only DHT blockers can do that.
>>18625217Here I am pre-spiro
>>18625580And post spiro.
>>18624484>>18624495>>18624754I'm back. I didn't know how how bad it was on the crown until I took these pictures, I guess the way I style it makes it look denser from the front than it actually is. I went ahead and got on a 1.2mg fin/3mg min blend prescription which should be here in a few days. Any other recommendations? I'm not expecting full/significant regrowth but I'd like to make it denser again. Anything else I can do in addition to the pills, I'm open to trying. I'm already a "mature" looking guy so I'm not trying to return to what I looked like in my 20s, but I'd like to look better than this.
>>18618508If you put tretinoin on your scalp it increases the amount of sulfur transfers enzymes in your scalp. Use tretinoin.
>>18625584You wish you looked like Tony Soprano
>>18625588No, I see it
>>18625588He has the makings of a varsity athlete.
>>18621833if u had a gf that was parading herself around in grey sweatpants and no makeup, would u still have no sex drive
>>18625584Overall density will improve and you should be able to get better symmetry particularly on the right side. Granted no matter what you will always be balding at that stage but you will be improving as early as 3-6 months into 1+ years. The sopranos hairline is a pretty realistic goal I'd say.
>>18625620Thanks, I appreciate it. Like I said, I'm not expecting miracles and I'll be happy with small results, but is there anything else I could do to support the process? Some kind of topical application, and micro needling or whatever it is? I've never really looked into this before, in depth.
What do you guys think?>>18622651
>>18625662My hair loss started like that too, basically one side of my hairline become flat and sparse and see-through after 1-2 days of not washing, all I can suggest is dut + 10mg oral min and wait a long time for the hair cycle to repeatedly shed and regain thickness at the front, if it became like that within a few years you have the best chances to rebound, my hair loss was very slow, over 10 years probably, so ymwv
>>18625627No you don't need any topicals, oral fin and min is about as effective as you can get. You would only microneedle if you were on a topical to improve the absorption. You can up the oral minoxidil dose to 5mg if you want better regrowth after seeing your results at the 6 month - year mark. Finasteride dose is fine and increasing it will not improve results. You could try stacking topical minoxidil with the oral but it's totally optional and honestly not really worth it.
Been sitting at NW2 for years but it's starting to recede again, might hop on Fin. I've heard some about it causing heart problems, has anybody experienced this?Considering getting testosterone/DHT levels checked, my fist impulse is maybe my DHT is abnormally high for my age and that it will still be in the normal range even with Fin inhibiting it. >>18614261I did egg routine with long hair for almost a year straight some time ago. I thought it was fine but sometimes girls would tell me that my hair looked greasy despite it. Perhaps just foids trying to make me more normal. I've just been using shampoo/conditioner for the past year now.
>>18625720Is there any reason not to simply increase the minoxidil dosage from the outset? If that's the one which is going to be the deciding factor regarding the scope of regrowth, should I go to 5 mg from the outset?
>>18625774I would start with 2.5mg the first few days to make sure you're got gonna get sides.
>>18625780*you're not gonna get sides
Finally got on oral fin and min. But also on cephalexin. No side effects whatsoever. If anything, I feel better. Less swelling in the face, nicer skin, scalp doesn’t itch, and also hair feels less brittle. I’m glad I didn’t pick dutasteride.Listen, finasteride has almost no side effects. If you do, just stop taking it, as it’s not permanent. Dutasteride, however, is the one that causes erectile dysfunction, impotence, and severe depression, though it is said that the hair regrowth is stronger with dut over fin.>Oral minHighly recommended, even with the blood pressure part.>Oral finHighly recommended. Side effects are very rare. A dermatologist will educate you.>Skin antibioticsunderrated and recommended even if your scalp doesn’t seem too bad. Helps clear up redness on your face and folliculitis.>Ketoconazole 2% shampoo Extremely recommended. Only use once a day, even if you get dirty again the same day. It’s a strong shampoo that leaves your head dry but not brittle and lifeless. More like a comb in a bottle.>Ketoconazole 2% creamUse this at night on your scalp plus minoxidil liquid or foam before bed. You will wake up looking like Elvis or Ferris Bueller, though.
>>18625771Maybe you're thinking of oral minoxidil? Finasteride doesn't cause heart problems and might actually be beneficial for it
>>18625581>>18625580why would the image filename for your pre image be later than your post one
>>18613072Is verteporfin for hair transplants still an early stage experimental thing, or is it good enough to be employed in regular transplants?
>>18625785How different actually are side effects on fin and min? I'm on fin now and was thinking of trying dut.
>>18625891It's the same thing dut is just more potent. No sides on fin = probably no sides on dut. Sides on fin = worse on dut.
>>18625774You can it's just with 5mg you are almost guaranteed to get increased body/facial hair. Eyebrows and eyelashes mainly and your beard will creep up towards your eyes. You might also get a puffy face for a few weeks due to initial water retention and possibly feel lightheaded. Always ease into higher doses 5mg is quite a lot for day 1 and you need time to adjust. For instance I'm on 3.75mg and that was enough to turn me into a werewolf.
>>18625891Minoxidil side effects? Worst supposedly is water retention. Maybe your liver if you already have a liver problem. Other than that, none at all. Minoxidil pills are actually intended for blood pressure regulation, so, if anything, expect better boners and better sleep. With finasteride, the side effects really don’t exist. The paperwork said that the worst is watery semen, not depression and erectile dysfunction. Even then, the watery semen issue is only a few percentage of people and also can go away if you stop taking it. So, if you’re trying to have a kid, it’s still possible if you even have side effects. So far, for me at least, nothing at all. In fact, my boners are even better, though that could even be from the minoxidil.So, let me explain. The differences between fin and dut.Fin helps regrow hair, mostly helps with diffuse issues, though minox partially helps. It lowers DHT etc etc. Side effects are rare, and if they do happen, aren’t the end of the world unless you’re that one unlucky bastard cursed by god.Dutasteride has a greater chance of growing your hair back. It essentially works. The thing is, it’s risky and actually has a chance of making you have a limp dick with depression. It’s basically the drug to take if you’re really willing to throw in all your poker chips, or you’re okay with being a tranny gimp. The chances of these side effects isn’t guaranteed, though a quite a gamble and would most-likely happen.>FinChances of side effects are extremely low. Hair regrowth takes more time, but it works. This is the safe bet. Works great for diffuse thinning, especially on the top of your head.>DutChances of side effects outweigh the chances of them NOT happening. You WILL however regrow your hair almost without question.>MinoxZero issues and everyone should take the oral route without question. Can help with diffuse thinning to some extent, but is mostly to help the hairline and any baby hair corners.
>>18625898Funny. Minoxidil tablets actually made my face less bloated. 2.5 by the way.
>>18625897I've been under the impression that this is the case. This is the first time I've seen someone say fin is good and dut is bad.>>18625938Sorry, I'm a dumbass any said min instead of dut. Are you speaking from personal experience with dut?
regarding natty ways to boost blood circulation in the scalp, does picrel do anything for that? It feels tingly and more satisfying than using the bare hand method, but I'm unsure if it does anything
>>18626334Use your brain. This shit doesn’t do diddly-fuck.
>>18613072Any good reading/youtube for hair transplants? I've been thinking about it lately and want to make sure I do it right.
>>18626253Not personal experience. The dermatologist told me what dutasteride does, and we actually went over research and documents together in his office. He was very patient and understanding.
Been on finasteride for 2 years, currently entering nw3. how long do I have before my shit is fucked and I cant get laid? My current haircut is pretty good but idk if it'll still be if fin doesnt stop the bald soon
>>186264232/2
>>18626423Time to get on dutasteride immediately. If you see no difference after two years on finasteride it ain’t going to work for you.
>>18626530>If you see no difference after two years on finasterideIsnt fin supposed to slow down and/or stoo the process? you dont grow new hair on fin right? My derlatologist say I handle treatment well and my hair is safe for now, idk maybe she's full of shit. I'd rather not take dutasteride i dont want to kill my dick. I'm good with this amount of hair I just dont want to lose more
Is it normal for oral minoxidil to just stop working a few months in?
>>18626602Are you people incapable of googling? Finasteride does regrow hair. If you take finasteride for two years and you’re still losing hair, then it’s safe to say you need something stronger.
>>18626424damn get a kippah mein nigga
>>18626602Are you actively losing more hair or not? What does your dosage look like, how much and how many times a week?
>>18626347Shop around multiple clinics in your price range and study their patients before and after pics. They should have results you are comfortable with otherwise move on to another. You are usually getting what you pay for, the US and other western countries will be marked up in price and not have a result worth the extra 3-5x cost but it will still be better if you want to maximize and get the very best result. If you can't afford one in your country look at Turkey and do the first step.
>>18626732i take 1g fin a day, my friends havent noticed any hairloss, I dont find hair on my pillow either. I'll ask about duasteride next year when I have to renew my fin prescription, I should be good until then right?
>>18626749Then it's working? There's no reason to switch to dut. If you want to regrow your temples oral minoxidil will do a lot more than dut.
>>18626750yeah but im slowly gonna go to a thinning ugly norwood3 in a few years and my haircut wont hide the hairloss anymore no?
>>18626760No. You wont start losing hair again if the finasteride has kept it where it is for the past 2 years, that is the entire point of it. If you want significant regrowth you need to add minoxidil.
>>18626761Wrong >>18626643
>>18626892So it's going to magically stop working and or start regrowing after 2 years!? You guys are fucking NUTS.
Over 6 months on min and fin. 99% sure I've stopped losing hair but have very little in the way of gains, some on the hairline but pretty sure it's 0 at the crown which is my biggest concern. 9th month mark I'll be seeing the dermatologist again and will get a higher dose of min if I still don't see much progress until then. Kinda getting DEMORALIZED desu.
>>18626911Ketoconazole shampoo and ointment.Keep taking your tablets but also apply a topical.>Wash hair with keto 2%>Apply keto 2% cream down scalp between your hairs in columns while head is wet and clean>Apply topical minox on top of that>Wide tooth comb to help rub it into scalp properly so it doesn’t sit on top of the hair.Just that alone helped me in five days.
>>18626926NTA but I remember using keto shampoo and being freaked out about how much hair was in my hands. Not sure how normal this is but it scared me away from using it regularly
>>18623489>>18625584honest question, why do you even bother?Even with an intact hairline you'd look stupid because of your shitty haircut, obesity, ugly clothes or because of all of the aforementioned.If you're not ashamed to walk around like that in public there's no way you actually care that much about your looks so why invest money and time just so your hair looks slightly less shit?
>>18627551
>>18627551This place rots your brain in thinking that to be a valid person, you need to fulfill all these criteria or you're worthless. If what he said is true, he's essentially already made it with what he has, with a career and 4 kids, despite looking like that. The Tony Soprano thing is funny because James Gandolfini is the exact example I'd point to for someone who isn't /fit/ but still manages to pull off /fa/shion really well, probably due to confidence/frame. Dude mogs you, at least from a genetic standpoint.
>>18613072>7 months on fin>noticeable increase in how much hair I'm losing in the showerIs this normal or am I losing ground?
>>18627983That’s perfectly normal. You’re shedding the bad hairs to make way for proper hairs.
I was at my mom's house for new years and used her shampoo while at there (I forgot to bring mine) My hair got so shiny, had more volume, and my scalp was cleaner, I also stopped losing hairs while showering, is this a good sign to change shampoo? I can't find the same one where I live
>>18628025Mens shampoo can be pretty harsh if you're buying those obnoxious axe, old spice etc brands.
There's an area around my hairline that's always at least slightly red. I've had this for the longest time but it just suddenly clicked that it's weird. I'm 2.5y on topical min and 1.5y on 1mg fin with diffuse thinning. I can't even be sure if I've had real progress because I buzz my head every ~4 days when the contrast between the scalp and the side becomes too apparent. I've been told my scalp also gets red too but It's not itchy or full of dandruff so I never gave it too much merit.Also what's this about using tret? I've been using tret on my face but wouldn't it irritate/dry out the scalp too much If I applied it there?
>>18628225I'm using Keto
>>18628292You are using this every time you shampoo? Seriously that is fucking up your hair and scalp if you are.
>>18628293No of course not, but I stopped using normal shampoo after buying keto.
Are there any studies that illustrate the longterm regrowth potential of fin/dut in pictures or something instead of just increased hair counts per cm2? Additionally is there actual concrete proof for the shedding meme? Ive been on fin for a month and my hairline looks fucking nuked. Sparse hair with individual hair follicles holding on to their dear life. It has to be a shed right? Im not quitting fin but i might quit my life if this shit doesnt regrow. Shits not looking good.
>>18628373I cant provide papers but I can provide my own experience. I had long hair when I was taking finasteride, and I was experiencing diffuse balding all on the top of my head. When I started taking it, it all started falling out there, leaving the sides and a tuft at the front of my head more or less intact. However, a new layer of short, thick hair started growing soon after. So I looked really fucked up but over time all the old long hair fell out and the new stuff keeps growing. All I can say is try looking/feeling for that new short layer which should feel much thicker and just accept that it is going to suck for months.
>>18628373Shed in the 2 week-1 month range is common. It's not a meme your miniaturized hairs have to shed to allow for a healthier one to take it's place and synchronize with the non-miniaturized hair cycle. Depending on how bad your hair was damaged you may see many more sheds but the frequency and severity will lessen and potentially be finished at around the year mark.
>>18613072Where can I get a one year dut prescription? I'm thinking of switching from fin.
>>18628251This is folliculitis. Go to a dermatologist and get a prescription for antibiotics. They will either proscribe you doxycycline or cephalexin.
>>18626911Look at this shit.
>>18628456Try topical min on the crown area specifically. For whatever reason some people respond better.
Should I buy multivitamin capsules?
>>18628746Sure, as an adjunctive treatment. Those are good for your health in general but if you think vitamin deficiency is the sole cause of your hair loss, rethink.
>>18626911>>18628456Not that bad though.Can you tell me how strong are the side effects of fin especially concerning libido and dick health. I need to start applying fin (I have the topical one) but I just landed this cute chick that's crazy about sex and it's been a while since I had a relationship. I need my dick to work.
>>18628818Not him, but fin side effects are rare, and if they do happen, just stop taking it. Dut is where it’s a gamble. If you do happen to get side effects from fin, at most, it’s watery cum, not erectile dysfunction.
>>18628453I never talked about having pimples of any kind on my scalp and the redness is far from being that bad. I definitely and thankfully don't have that.
Anyone here had a bad hairline since they were a teen? How you been dealing with it? Has minoxidil helped?
>>18628818I had a lowered libido and nutted water for a bit in the beginning, eventually things came back to normal.
>>18613709I'm taking minoxildil for facial hair only, not balding at all yet. It seems like it's a secret because nobody knows you can use it like that.
What hairstyles actually work for guys with thinning and receding hair? I mean around Norwood 3 or 4 when there’s still some hair to work with. Obviously all the fin/dut and min options are worth considering. But while the pharmaceuticals are hopefully working their magic, what styles are best in the meantime? Is buzz the only option?
>>18629264If your density is shit it doesn't matter nothing will look good.
>>18629271So what, then? Should I just blow my entire head off? Or might there be a “least bad” option?
>>18629276Work on getting your hair fixed before you even think about hairstyles. If you absolutely must have hair beyond a buzzcut with severe thinning then you will benefit from having the sides shaved with a 0 or 1 guard into a short undercut/military cut. A mohawk would work too. It's not going to look good but its that or shave it all off.
>>18629264Long hair or specific cuts that hide your forehead are your only choice, really.
>>18629283>>18629284Thanks. I’ll do some research on styles like that. My thinning isn’t super severe. Buts it’s definitely noticeable.
>>18629020there's already a bunch of reddit fags doing itr/minoxbeards
>>18629286The goal is to distract from the thinning on top by removing the thick hair from the sides which in comparison to the sides will make the top look thicker. Think of the shaved head beard combo cope but in reverse kind of if that makes sense.
>>18629288Yeah I see what you mean. That might be the best way to go.
>>18629271What about good density norwood 3?
>>18629298Sleezecore
Norwood 2 age 23Should I start fnasteride if my temples have receded half a cm in 12 months?
>>18613072How fucked am I?
>>18629477Any signs of hair loss the answer is yes. The sooner the better.
>>18629507You can cosmetically recover from diffuse thinning easier than recession so you're mostly fine. You probably won't regain much ground on your temples. The best thing you can do is get on fin asap to prevent more recession. Get on topical minoxidil and microneedling as well. Oral minoxidil if you have pets (it's poisonous for cats/dogs)
Any downsides to topical fin?
>>18630141Topical application itself is a downside. The systemic effects have negligible differences between the two so really there is no point to topical, it's purely psychological.
>>18630448Why do i get zero systemic effects from topical fin but not the same case from microdosing oral? I've had physical symptoms so not psychological, also the topical dosage that i'm applying is high so it's supposed to "go systemic"
>>18630492The root of 99.9% of your physical symptoms are psychological. Doctors lied to you to get more money from you via topical tinctures.
>>18630505I've had gyno from oral
>>18630531You always had it
>>18630538It made it worse and i've had painfully stinging nipples, but what about dry eyes? btw i don't believe in PFS since most of my symptoms went away
>>18630531You grew breasts from sucking dick?
>>18630721lol
>>18628902>Anyone here had a bad hairline since they were a teen?Yes. I have very little expectation that a guy in his 20's will magically regrow a hairline he haven't had since I was 14. My plan is to preserve what I have now, and get a hair transplant one day to have a nice full head.
