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40 year old virgin wearing 50K watches but still looks cheap and no ones looks up to him or envy him or find him more attractive because of it, JUST fuck my shit up hair on top, but seems like a nice guy tho - Edition

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>>18669856
He always makes mouth noises like he's parched. He's a good presenter. He's either working off a teleprompter or incredibly well prepared and articulate. But it's just another world of watches than I live in or really have interest in. He's not too pompous, but he speaks with that same assumed objective authority that a lot of those luxury watch guys do. It all might as well come from the same script. You watch enough watch content and you pick up on all the terminology and can then predict exactly how they'll turn a phrase in certain situations. It's funny then watching the other end, guys like WesWatches, where he clearly has no clue what words he's throwing around, mispronounces words, gets most of the terminology completely wrong, and expects no one will notice.

Yeah, I watch all of these guys from every level of collecting. If it's a good host it really doesn't matter what they're talking about.
And vice versa, sometimes I'm watching the only videos I can find about a specific watch and it's in-depth but made my some dunderhead who can barely speak the language and doesn't know anything. Worth it for the footage sometimes though.
I feel bad for the guys who clearly invested money in cameras and editing stuff, but they'll just never ever catch on because they don't have the mojo.
I don't know if Tim's a virgin. He's rich and he was in the military. Are you basing that just on him not having a wedding ring or something?
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>>18669856
There are only two people in the watch space you need to pay attention to: Tim Mosso and ArchieLuxury. Once you know more about horology then you will understand.
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>>18669872
Pull your head out of your ass. I bet you'll never own a single watch you jack off to.
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>>18669872
>horology
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>>18669882
Are you mad poorfag?
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The pursuit of horology can be summarized as a pursuit of a handful of things.
Originally we wanted accuracy, no matter the cost or inconvenience. Think about ancient monuments to track the solar cycle; Ziggurats, Stonehenge etc. In their time they were the true time standard.
When we advanced beyond solar time we went to great lengths to make our observatory chronometer clocks as accurate as possible, partly for science’s sake and partly to save lives at sea when marine chronometers used these clocks as their time reference before embarking on long voyages.
Eventually horology transferred to your pocket and later on to your wrist where the factor of convenience came in to the picture. Sure, you could carry a marine chronometer and use that, but a slim pocket watch was more practical. These early mechanical watches were less accurate than the clocks used as time standards, but that was a trade-off we had to make.
Fast forward to today. Does a watch exist that completely fulfils our collective horological desire?
It in fact does and those watches are either radio sync or HAQ (High Accuracy Quartz). With these watches you basically carry the time standard with you; a feat your ancestors didn’t even know they could dream off.
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For added convenience you can choose a solar watch, where you don’t have to worry about replacing the battery every 4 years or so. This increases the convenience of your timepiece drastically.
There is only one more thing we have to consider these days. Style/trends.
As a peculiar turn of events the traditional watch manufacturers were unable to compete in horology after the discovery of quartz and instead of evolving they simply tried to deny the recent advancements as horology, referring to them more as consumer electronics rather than true horology.
Fortunately, the elephant still is in the room, no matter how much you try to deny it. Concurrently, unfortunately, most individuals will not see the truth in this fog of war and will instead gobble up what ever lie they hear as a truth.
This is the reason mechanical watches are still seen as the gold standard, despite a superior, more convenient, technology existing. A HAQ will never be a mechanical watch, which leaves only one venue for a watch of this make to out-do the so called traditional masters. That final frontier is style and finishing. When you examine a high quality HAQ watch you’ll see it surpasses all mechanical watches double, or triple, its price bracket. With that final feat, it is safe to say a luxury HAQ/radio sync watch truly is The Best Watch ever made.
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Post above me is cope.
The posts below me are seethe and any new posts in this thread are gays.
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>>18669872
>ArchieLuxury
>horology

KEK, i think i've never heard him talk about movements, only about himself and money.
Seeing him go from ArchieLuxury to ArchieMiddleClass to ArchiePoverty was funny tho. It's a good lesson about not what to do and not trying to project wealth you don't have.
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>>18669865
>I don't know if Tim's a virgin. He's rich and he was in the military. Are you basing that just on him not having a wedding ring or something?
It's more a jab at him about how having/wearing 50k watches give you zero swag in the end.
It's a jab at myself too, i wear 10k watches but i still feel cheap very often. Like a gypsy whore with a Gucci bag.

Those 10k for another watch in a collection are often better spent in a good stylist, hair implants and a gym membership... having your bases covered before getting luxury accessories.

Tim Mosso like ArchieLuxury don't have the bases of a decent look, they look dorky and cheap. No Patek can redeem their looks.
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I bought this today, as my first watch ever, it will arrive from japan (ippojapanwatch)
i hope it will fit nicely, any opinions? i really like how it looks, if you guys think this is a wrong buy let me know, i might cancel this still.
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>>18669960
Good watch, i have a similar one.
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>>18669960
Nice beginner watch
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>Imagine not getting an Casio a700 in silver or gold and just calling it a day
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>>18669947
Watches are all about flexing either your wealth or your taste. Nothing more. The sooner you learn this the better off you will be.
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>>18669872
I enjoy Tim’s videos. No influencer tier shittery.
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>>18669900
I'm not poor or mad. I just find it funny that you fanboy watch presentations about $50,000 stuff you'll never even touch. Weird hobby.
I buy the watches I like. Luckily I can afford them. It would suck to have your taste and drool over things that will always be out of reach.
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>>18669958
Looks aren't everything. Maybe you're the virgin if you think about hair implants and gym makeovers.
If you need to present some "package" of yourself to attract a companion, you're lacking in the personality dept.

What do I know? I'm almost 50 now. None of the stuff you kids are worried about ever applied to me. I never had problems meeting people or getting together with women.
Watches certainly never even entered into that.
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>>18669960
> if you guys think this is a wrong buy let me know, i might cancel this still.

I really wish I could help people quell this mindset. DON'T worry about what anyone thinks, man. Especially these trolls here. You're obviously buying it for approval. Luckily you like an "/fa/-approved" brand. Which is stupid.
I think it's a fine watch. But the fact that you're ready to change YOUR mind about what YOU like because some anonymous trolls might comment against it is fucking pathetic, dude.

At least you don't like Chinese watches. They really never let you hear the end of that. And you have to be a very confident person to swim against that tide. But it's easy when you know you're right and they're wrong. And they are wrong.
Everyone here but me is wrong.
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>>18670161
Yeah, if you love a watch, it doesnt matter what people think about it.
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>>18670224
You’ve solved watches
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>>18669904
>>18669905
ID on this?
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>>18669856
Tim's based. He's just a high-functioning autistic sperg who loves watches. There's no pretension with him, no manufactured image, no PR team behind the scenes. His enthusiasm is genuine, his interest is legitimate and his knowledge is significant.

In the world of luxury watches, he's one of the only non-slimy, greasy, image focused pieces of shit that just watches and watch enthusiasts to make money.

If you lose people like Tim, you're stuck with fat fucking faggots like Nico, pretentious assholes who know nothing about horology like O'leary or greasy hucksters like Roman
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>>18670271
Based and truthpilled
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>>18670271
the bar for watch YouTubers is so low that tim "every watch I will sell you is perfect with zero flaws" moso is considered based?
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>>18670224
Hear, hear!
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>>18670262
I don't know what it is but it's fucking cool and it's an image I've never seen here before.
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>>18670271
So you just hate fat people? haha
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>>18670277
If you don't consider Tim based, who do you? And they can't just be a watch commentator or enthusiast. They need to have a business that sells watches. They need skin in the game so we can get an idea of their integrity when their livelihood is on the line.

Tim doesn't start e-drama, he doesn't make clickbait videos, he doesn't commentate on celebrity bullshit.

He is fucking based. You're just too much of a fucking retard to see it
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>>18670288
Correct.
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Lorca model 1 GMT

the black face version looks right up my alley. it's slightly out of my budget (i'm a poorfag) but i'm extremely tempted to make a bad decision either way.

what are you're theauxlts?
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>>18670300
You have too many fucking stupid rules set up.

>You have to basically like Tim... or Teddy, but really just Tim. Anyone else is just a poser without "skin in the game"

You're clearly one of those people who chugs fancy watch cock but can't be a player. How sad for you. Saving up for your first grail instead of a down payment on a house, are ya?
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>>18670302
I'll never need a GMT nor do I find it interesting so I can't justify paying extra for one. Interesting that the numbers are on the bezel and just indices on the dial. I like 37mm a lot. I just can't imagine dropping $2,000 on a watch right now. That said, I like the black and white equally and hope you're happy with your decision. That's a really great date window. Looks better on the white in that photo.
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And it has a sweet bracelet. You'd better get a lot for that kind of money though.
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>>18669945
This actually looks good.
Expensive watches look like garbage. Especially shit like >>18669960 with the giant chunky metal band. Awful.
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Kofe time.
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>>18670300
Teddy Badasslad is the sucessfull version of Tim and who also gets laid.
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>>18670324
Get some new material, washout.
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>>18670328
No. Watch still looks the same, so does the kofe.
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>>18670331
Just lost your ability to make new images? I bet you have massive scratches or you lost a chunk of hand meat or something. Or you cracked your silly coffee cup. I'm sure it's not just laziness. You're a low-effort troll. Only other autistic fuckwads defend you because you're somehow comforting to them. But I see through it. I see a piece of shit marking his territory all over this board for reasons of his own. I don't give a fuck how long you've been doing it. And I don't understand why despicable behavior eventually gets accepted once it goes on long enough.
I don't give a fuck if no one took you to task over it before. I'm here now and I'm not going to stop because YOU are not going to stop. Fuck yourself and every other loser incel from a broken home who finds solace in these bullshit "traditions". Fucking freaks.
Do better.
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>>18670333
nice trips. I agree, it's nice to see the life time poster, but I'd be way too lazy to post this in every thread, multiple times.
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>>18670333
I have previously stated that my lease to the watch ended roughly a year ago and I didn't opt for extending it.
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>>18670367
leasing a watch?!!
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>>18670373
it's actually smarter than buying and selling it if you just want variety
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Cocktail Time
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>>18670309
Literally 1 rule.

Just 1

The person you select needs to sell watches

>Too many rules

Good god, I'm dealing with a fucking retard. Just ignore me please. I don't have the disposition to deal with your kind.
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>>18670394
Yes.
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>>18670326
Teddy is fucking shill who accepts sponsorships and pushes subpar watches and collabs

Get some fucking standards you goddamm fucking whore
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>>18670403
>>18670401
>>18670333
Lot's of upset in this thread. You need to stop cortisol-maxxing and you need to go out and sun your balls.
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>>18670302
You don't need a GMT.
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>>18670394
based
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>>18670500
Does he like a watch under $40k retail that isn't a Rolex. speedmaster or seamaster?
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>>18669856
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>>18670302
yo that white dial is elegant
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>>18669905

Crazy how this incredible piece of value and engineering costs the same (and even less) as a Datejust
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Haven’t posted my collection in awhile. My Casio broke and the essence is now my beater. Wanted to get a swatch with a funny custom design but seems like a waste. Was thinking about a quartz bell and Ross but looks like they only make mechanicals now
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>>18670798
>formex
You were so close man, next time make sure it says FORTIS.
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Why is everyone in watches either a Jewish manbaby or a wigger?
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>>18670394
Buy a seiko. Buy two.
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>>18670394
More like cock in your tail time
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>>18670496
No they aren't. I have a lot of watches and I'm not rich.
I don't know what you have. It's not polite to call your elders "son", incel. Get a watch before you open your big yap again.
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>>18670785
Looks like a Cronos I'm going to buy for $300.
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Tiger Concept now sells schizo bracelets.
Hoping to see this technology incorporated into their watches.
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>>18670785
>posts a Grand Seiko
>brings up Rolex completely unbidden.
It’s not a stereotype if it’s true.
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>>18671039
poorlex lmao
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>>18671063
kek bittercel
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>>18671065
eyyyyyy lmfaoo jam goy shittin up his own wrist shitter thread lmfo
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>>18669856
Googled him because he looks like me (35 year old virgin, btw)

>No sooner had I left the shop with my caliber 214 Accutron than I found a crowd gathered around the then-new Ford GT supercar. The owner – perched over his exposed supercharged V8 – was holding court for a crowd of about a dozen riveted men.
>Or at least he was until somebody noticed my $400 watch and went full Chernobyl over it. In an instant, the crowd was mine, and I was explaining the watch the way the driver had been talking about the car a moment before. The driver looked like his dog just died, and he stormed away in a huff.
Was this really the case back then? People only comment on my watch if I'm wearing my smart watch... most recently a deranged boomer who thought the screen was recording him.
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>>18670727
>Does he like a watch under $40k retail that isn't a Rolex. speedmaster or seamaster?
yes. in fact, he’s not even that big of a fan of Rolex. If you watch his non-review videos, the kinds of watches he gravitates toward are interesting oddball watches. He’s seen a thousand Calatravas and Subs and ten thousand watches that are just low-effort copies.

As an aside, this happens to a lot of collectors once their income makes getting a Rolex trivial. By that point, you’ve been collecting long enough to where you’ve started to develop your own taste instead of going for the box-checking consensus collection.

>a GMT-Master II for my daily/travel watch, a Royal Oak for my sports watch, a Speedmaster because no collector can be without one, a Calatrava because it’s the ultimate dress watch, and a square G-Shock because I’m not a snob
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>>18671059
No you're not supposed to be impressed. But you say "watches are a rich man's game" and that's not true. You're not rich so why are you here gatekeeping for them? That doesn't make any sense.

Do you like my new "shitter" I just ordered? Your idea of what a rich man is would probably scoff at this watch, so I should be ashamed that this is "all I can afford", right?

lol, I've bought $400 worth of watches and watch accessories in the last 5 days. I'm so poor!
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>>18671075
haha, Tim said all that shit? Unbelievable. In that I do not believe that happened.
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>>18671075
>looks like me (35 year old virgin, btw)
HAHAHAHA
sounds about right for /wt/ kek
thinking about ending it daily aren't you lil wiz?
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>>18670727
He likes Zenith and is therefore based
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>>18671138
2022 ahh meme
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>There are people who think other people except watch autists care about watches.

I hope you didn’t think that women think a watch makes a man more attractive. Use your phone as a clock or even an Apple Watch like a normal person.
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This is my Chronométre De La Renaissance pocket watch.
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>>18670829
Small dick energy trying to compensate.
He reminds me of Timepiece gentleman
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>>18670798
Nice original collection. Bonus point for the Kurono
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>>18671075
>People only comment on my watch if I'm wearing my smart watch... most recently a deranged boomer who thought the screen was recording him.
Based boomer, kek.
I think people really have to go out of their way to comment on a watch.
Unlike for fragrances where the sense of smell directly goes to your subconscious and give you a good of bad stimulus.
For watches, it involve knowing about watches, social class consciousness and gender issues (as it is jewelry, it can be perceived as calling someone feminine and say that yourself have feminine traits and you're kind of a fag).

That's why fun shitters have more chances of getting compliments, like a yellow G-shock.
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>>18669947
he used to have a lot of opinions on movements but he doesnt care anymore now that hes broke
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>>18669905
Hey I'm in Kuopio now if you want to meet so I can see the best watch ever made (and you can see my watch, the best watch ever made).
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>>18671195
People say that but almost everyone is wearing a wrist accessory of some sort now. Watches are probably more popular now than they have been in the previous 20 years or so, even if they aren't "real" watches.

Casio has absolutely had a rennaisance. Every new york hipster and tiktok influencer is wearing one of the 80s style retro casios, probably in part to counter smart watches. And it makes sense, wtf does a smartwatch do that a casio doesn't while also looking cooler and wearing more comfortably?
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>>18671249
He’s a bad example since he’s obsessed with luxury and prestige only, but you don’t have to be a movement obsessive to be a “real” watch appreciator. That’s just pedantic gatekeeping.
You can love watches and really just care about design, for example.
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>>18671254
>He says as he keeps pretending to look at his watch, hoping a woman comments on it.
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>>18670040
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>>18670271
>There's no pretension with him, no manufactured image, no PR team behind the scenes.
Except 1916 owns debethune and he constantly shills them
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>>18670727
He won't shutup about his Siin he wore for 5 years

Tim Mosso's Sinn EZM 1.1 #WatchFamforUkraine
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>>18671202
Lets see inside it
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>>18671252
>best watch ever made
Almost, the white date disc ruins it and I've seen it in person
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>>18669856
Why is Tim pantomiming that he's taking a "toke" off of a "joint"?
He seems like the absolute last guy in the world to "mess with the devil's lettuce". He probably says dorky shit like that too. All scared of an herb.
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>>18671465
Why are you inventing arguments in your head to get mad about, you worthless stoner bum?
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>>18671523
Because I'm a worthless, stoner bum.
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>>18670798
really love the bracelet on that movado.

how are you liking your Kurono? i live in Japan, was thinking of getting some microbrand shit for my next purchase. i looked at Kuoe first and i liked what i saw online but in person it didn't quite blow me away. I looked at Namica next but all the models I liked were out of stock with no word of restock soon. Kurono is my next stop
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>>18671554
>really love the bracelet on that movado.
Sinn makes similar bracelets.

>was thinking of getting some microbrand shit for my next purchase.
>Kurono is my next stop
Why do that when you could just get a?
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>>18671286
Unironically, my wife and I get more comments on our casios than on any luxury watches. When we wear rolex or omega or Breitling only other watch people say anything, but all the family and friends and cashiers and stuff comment on a retro casio, kids want to play with the backlights, etc... They're proof you don't need to spend a lot of money to get a cool watch.
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>>18671590
Are you a reseller? Be honest.
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>>18671252
Are you staying for long? How do I get a hold of you?
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>>18671597
Fuck, I wish. We're just skilled trade workers.
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>>18671607
I've moved, so this is home now.
I put my steam URL in picrel.
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>>18671741
I reached out to you today, you know where.
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>>18671607
>>18671741
>>18671828
Go have your talk on Grindr.
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>>18671833
Cashapp me and you'll get in my dm's ;)
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>>18671833
That's a coffee website right? For grinding the beans?
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>>18671902
Bruw
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>>18671911
>1
I like the idea of the brew watches but their logo is so minimalist as to not even be there and it looks like an unbranded aliexpress shitter.
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>>18671176
No. I was suicidal as a teen because twf no gf, but my 20's were pretty comfy just living alone in the woods. 30's we're kind of shit due to multi-organ disease secondary right-sided heart failure, but I still find joy in the little things - e.g. walks in nature, writing, shitposting etc.
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My new 36mm Seiko

https://vocaroo.com/1gY1WQYUDc7S
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>>18671959
Stay strong, king.
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>>18671911
Make it under $150 and maybe I'll consider them. Too bad Ciloas are so cheap. I want a mid-range budget watch to homage those.
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>>18671959
Where's the other half of your foot?
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>>18671969
A Chinaman took it from me in the war.
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Why is there more than one watch thread?

R8 my favorite watch. The other thread sucks
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You don't want to know.
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>>18671911
I like the vagina logo
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>>18671971
But you went out and achieved anyway. Good attitude.

>>18671983
It's cool.
Of course if you weren't so POOR you could afford a fully gold watch. Just kidding. That's why you left the other thread.
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>>18671983
Welcome, new fren. Cool Seiko you have there, i'm surprised it still works. All threads are pretty much the same, they all suck. You'll get used to it. Here's one of my Seikos.
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>>18671994
Speaking of Seiko, the current lineup i saw at Haneda the other day
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>>18671998
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>>18672001
+ a bonus Othani, this guy sells everything and anything but he's a better brand ambassador than fucking Beckham for Tudor
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>>18672001
I'm not really in the market for a Seiko, but if i had to buy one it would be one of those Varnac (?).
I'm a wristlet and IRL they mog the others.
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>>18672006
*Astron
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>>18671994
Neat, how old is that one?

Mine works great, just replaced its capacitor for the first time. I got it around 2009
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Tim rules. Autistic watch enjoyer. He doesn't view them as status symbols like the rest. He obviously just likes little detailed machines. And he knows everything about them. He is the antithesis to Britt "it just so happens the one I like is the expensive one" Pearce.

However because he is selling everything is positive. And so if you want to see him criticise watches you have to watch the versus videos, which are always fantastic.
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>>18672011
>Britt "it just so happens the one I like is the expensive one" Pearce
I like her but she's loaded and tries to play it cool, classic snob.

She said last time that her husband bought a Daytona and the FP Journe (i think) THE SAME FUCKING MONTH.
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>>18672013
Imagine being her husband - you're a wealthy older bachelor who could get anyone you want, and you choose to marry a snaggletooth bitch with no tits AND no ass.
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>>18672006
Vanac is thick, and flashy. Astron is very good, but i'd go one step down and get one from the Selection line, same movements so same functionality, maybe a bit worse finishing (but not by much, mine is still great) but lower price. I have the SBTM339.
>>18672008
It will be 62 years in July.
>Mine works great, just replaced its capacitor for the first time. I got it around 2009
So long on the first one? That's why i said i'm surprised it worked that long, they usually die quickly, but then again half of the owners probably weren't wearing them nearly enough time to keep them charged.
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>>18672006
But if you can shell for the Astron then go for it.
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>>18671994
>unpolished crystal
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>>18672024
Yeah, i tried polishing it once, i have some (general) polishing kit, a few pads and some abrasive, but i was worried it'd be too coarse so i used toothpaste, and well, nothing happened. It needs a service anyway, and a new crystal (a few of them in fact) should soon be on the way as well.
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>>18672017

He likely choose her because of that. Woman moment.

A more homely girl less likely to marry him just for his wealth.

She then becomes obsessed with FP Journe
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>>18672031
Is it acrylic or mineral glass?
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>>18672043
Acrylic, it looks great when it's new-ish, best crystal looks-wise if you ask me, barely there, little to no reflections, warm. But if you so much as breathe into it you're gonna scratch it
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>>18671994
that's a nice pic. You got a new phone?
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>>18672018
To be fair the capacitor has been fucked for 2-3 years i just got reallly lazy about the replacement and the cost. Still, it lasted quite a while
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>>18672059
Why do you assume it's not a camera?
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>>18672046
Wet sanding + cape cod cloth will make it look new - something they don't advertise its good for but they're better then any other product specifically on acrylic.

If you're going to replace it I guess it doesn't matter; but its good to know if you're an acrylic-chad in 2026
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>>18671397
explain how he constantly "shills" them.

He reviews Debethune with the same enthusiasm and attention to detail as anything else. I've seen him review Oris dive watches or a Tissot Sinderal for as long as any debethune.

I get that you're a hater and prefer fat, greasy, retarded cunts like Nico who know absolutely zero about the engineering of horology and can only, barely, remember names of catalog references and basic complications, but you'll grow to appreciate legitimate watch enthusiasts once you finish puberty
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>>18672078
I don't have a dog in this fight, but the way you're promoting this one guy and trying to force everyone to appreciate him is really sad and pathetic. I hope this is the one and only entire thread dedicated to fellating one luxury watch reviewer.
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Kofe time.
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>>18671465
>Why is Tim pantomiming that he's taking a "toke" off of a "joint"?
I thought he was mimicking my penis, it happened many times before from women.
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>>18672098
I imagine your sad life where you decide "yep, it's time to post it again."

Fucking loser.
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>>18672113
>I imagine
Yes.
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New Rolex jpgs leaked.

YACH MASTERARINER
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PANDA NEWMAN BUT WITH SILVER SUB FUCKING DIALS.
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GREENERINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>18672123
Flawless
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>>18672123
>>18672124
>>18672127
what about the Land Dweebler? New colors?
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>>18672123
the proportions are off, looks like AI
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>>18672059
Yes.
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>>18672145
MORE, PLEASE!! New angles if you would!!
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>>18672146
I don't have that many photos that i haven't already posted here, i have to take some new ones. I also don't want to spam this watch too much here again.
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>>18672155
It was sarcasm. Fuck you and stop posting that, stop suggesting it as an option people should purchase. Stop being a fucking OCD annoyance who does the same things over and over and over. The same watch, the same phrases. Just be original. No more fucking Weekdaters. For a while. Like two, three weeks. Please.
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>>18672155
I would like to see some new angles and macro shots.
Do you have a picture of the caseback?
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>>18672086
so no explanation, then?

I believed so
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>>18672160
Explanation for what? I wasn't previously arguing with you. I see what's happening in here and think you suck. I don't have to explain any more than that.
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>>18672158
>I would like to see some new angles and macro shots.
>Do you have a picture of the caseback?
I'll make some new photos this week, including the caseback. It looks like this.
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>>18672175
stop talking to yourself you sick faggot
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>>18672178
stop talking to yourself you sick faggot
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new hot Christopher Ward

I always hated the branding of that brand, but i can't ignore that they make great watches now.
Lowkey looks like a FP Journe.
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>>18672289
This design had such potential and they fucking ruined it.

First of all, who the fuck decided the most important spec isnpower reserve? Every watch now is fuckin 3 DAYS! 5 DAYS! 10 DAYS!? 320 FUCKIN DAYS???? And a big ugly asymmetrical power reserve to remind you of your 7384 FUCKIN DAYS. Why do you want me to NOT wear your watch for long periods of time? Do watchmakers do this just because it's the easiest "complication" to boost if you're a relatively small brand trying to make your own movements?

Then to balance the dial on the opposite side they skeletonized the dial just to show a bridge....... A fuckin bridge. That's it. It's not even the same shape.

Small seconds GMT is actually a good idea, you might be able to make it a little thinner. But then the other shit they did totally ruins it.

Maybe the brits need to lay off the fuckin gin and pasties and get their fuckin head in the game.
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>>18672289
When I glance at a CW watch I think I kinda like it, then I look closely and realize I do not.
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>>18672314
I forgot to mention the cavernous date window that looks like the date fell down a fuckin chasm and is waiting for rescue. Look at the fuckin shadow cast on the date, holy FUCK how did these retards think this looks acceptable?
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>>18672289
>meh orange
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>>18672314
The date is deep because the watch is 14mm thick.
I'm also against dates in general but that's a GMT.
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Good evening gentlemen. I chose to wear The Citizen Chronomaster today.
To this day, I still am in awe of the technical accomplishments in this watch, along with its flawless design language.
It is safe to say this is a true DAGA watch.
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There's a japanese guy who makes custom aged vintage Rolexes for around $2k. They're basically Seiko mods.
Opinions?
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>>18672344
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>>18672345
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>>18672344
I'm a huge weaboo, so anything hiragana will get bonus point from me, but i just don't get what he's doing.

Are the case new and artificially aged?
The movement are "SEIKO NH35A" which are in the cheapo category to me. $1200, i don't get it.
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>>18672349
>Are the case new and artificially aged?
Yes, you can order a watch with a sharp case and bracelet but I think it looks retarded with the aged dial.
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>>18670326
>>18670403
Teddy just did a video on Citizen The Citizen. How does CitizenKofeTimeChad feel about this?
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>>18672344
Meh. Get a genuine aged vintage Seiko for way less and call it a day.
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>>18672352
ok, it's gimmicky.
I'd put it in the same category than Vague watches, except they sell their watches for $350. Over 1K for this is way too much imo. If he used Sellitas i'd almost understand.
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>>18672357
Seiko watches are fucking ugly
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>>18672358
>>18672352
>>18672344
It's a cool idea but he's charging way, way too much for nh35 shitters.
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shitters.
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>>18672289
>Lowkey looks like a FP Journe.
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>18672403
It looks like a Journe if Journe had a lot of tequila one night and blacked out in his shop.
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>>18672078
Debethune are always popping up in videos for no reason at all
I don't hate him, I actually like him but to say he has no bias at all is just wrong. He's an employee at 1916
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>>18672411
I'm looking around on de bethune's website and I'm not seeing any prices for any of those watches. Is it one of those things like if I have to ask what it costs I can't afford it?
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Gentlememen.
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>>18672289
Looks nice but I don't care for GMTs
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>>18672417
>looks nice
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>>18672416
it's hideous, i love it
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>>18672174
If you had a modicum of reading comprehension, you would know I asked for an explanation of Tim "shilling" a particular watch brand. When challenged, you've done what all complete fucking cowards do and thrown your hands up like an asshole in an attempt (failed) to minimise your assertion.

Fucking pathetic little coward cunt. If you're going to say something, you fucking stand on it. Or don't open your fucking mouth at all
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>>18672411
>no reason at all

It's almost as if Tim is showing his inventory to potential buyers or something
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>>18672289
Tell me what you mean by 'lowkey', zoomer.
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>>18672341
Murder yourself
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>>18672453
>>18672494
Enjoy this, dude. You're never again having an entire thread devoted to promoting and aggressively defending Tim Mosso.

This is so fucking pathetic. I hope you realize that. You're SO lucky this is anonymous. This would be the end of your reputation if anyone were to find out you act like this. Fucking kissass.
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Casio time
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>>18672522
That's a cool Cass on a cool strap actually.
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>>18672341
based. must be a nice feeling knowing that you have solved watches.
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>>18672341
>technical accomplishments
>design language
>DAGA
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bros I want to solve watches too. What's a good endgame watch? budget around 2000$
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>>18672532
USD?
You mean $2,000.
Now you know. Half the battle.
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>>18672532
>endgame watch? budget around 2000$
Grand Seiko SBGX261
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Kofe time.
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>>18672289
$4K ???
damn
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>>18672534
So, $2,000?

>>18672535
You are a cunt. If you had friends you wouldn't troll this board.
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>>18672537
The SBGX261 goes around 2K, it's a quartz, but GS quality.
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>>18672534
>>18672535
which of these two watches is better?
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>>18672411
only if /wt/ decides to make a YouTube channel to review watches, only theb will the internet experience true unbiased-ness
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>>18672542
That would be a matter of opinion. Personally I think they both fucking suck. I'm especially sick of the citizen. If you only have a couple of watches why would you post them every day? It's insulting to everyone's patience.
I fucking hate internet weirdos with obsessive, annoying behaviors like that. And since ignoring them doesn't do any good I'm going to bitch about it. I know it doesn't do any good either. In fact, it gives them a reaction to work off of. They feed off of negativity. But I don't care since they just do it anyway.
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Kofe Time
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>>18672549
At least you have some variety there. I wouldn't put too much stock into that kind of quackery though. Why are you spelling it "kofe" like that fucking faggot troll?

>Learn how your thoughts affect your cells and your health
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>>18672522
Cool looking Casio, i like the strong red.
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>>18672571
I forgot how nice the Stiletto looks, it might be my next watch.
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>>18672544
That fucker alone made me hate Citizen as a brand.
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>>18672571
The Stiletto has to be the most underrated quartz watch ever.
where else would you get a 4mm thick watch with a jewelled quartz movement for around 300? They stopped making these just because they were delivering too much value for money.
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>>18672582
Lmao
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>>18672571
That's a cool watch. See? I don't mind a Citizen being posted with coffee. I've done it with mine. It just can't be the same one over and over.
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>>18672585
>They stopped making these just because they were delivering too much value for money.

That kind of thing makes me sick.
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>>18672289
Best looking CW coming thru
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After lengthy discussions with my watch mentor and self analysis I've come to the conclusion that all watches are shitters.
Yes, ALL watches. Your Rolex is a shitter because you overpaid for outdated brand slop. Even your Casio is a shitter, but at least it's cheap.
You may think this seems depressing and defeatist, but it's no use trying to argue against logic.
For me, this revelation ties horology to something called positive nihilism; nothing really matters and that's a good thing! You can do whatever you want, go anywhere you dare, eventually you'll still end up in the same place.
This way of thinking has led me on a true path of discovery in horology. I am not seeking status recognition, I'm not trying to impress anyone, I am simply following my heart, buying what I truly want and I'll continue doing so till the day my short stay on this ball of dirt is over.
All watches are shitters, and that's a good thing.
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I think I'm getting this. 32mm, 7mm thick.
Pretty small.
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>>18672605
Of course. There's no importance, no reason for all the pomposity. If the watch works and you like the looks of it and you can afford it, buy it and wear it and be happy with it.

Doesn't matter what some insecure online troll thinks. And no one out in the real world will be thinking of our watches. They're just for us.
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>>18672608
How long have you been on HRT?
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I wish I were rich enough to afford spring drive. That smooth sweep looks so good.
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>>18672610
>>18672605
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>>18672624
Only Grand Seiko can service them

No one knows what will happen when GS can't and decide not to service them anymore in 15 or 30 years.
Meanwhile a Rolex from 1950 can still be serviced by your local watch guy. Let that stink in.
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>>18672632
Yes, as long as the local watch guy buys clone parts from China.
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>>18672608
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>>18672632
I also wish I were rich enough to not worry about that.
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>>18672632
>Meanwhile a Rolex from 1950 can still be serviced by your local watch guy. Let that stink in.
No, he doesn't get the parts since years.
he can clean and lubricate thats all.
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>>18672632
Can Rolex service an OysterQuartz?
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I’m getting my first Rolex next week. I’m so excited brehs. It’ll be my first time to have a possession that pricey.
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>>18672637
Of the parts you need to replace every time, all have been available as generics since the 60s.
Mainsprings ? Most brands don't make their own and you just need measurments to get something that will fil.
Gaskets ? Same deal.
Crown tube ? See above.
Some other wire springs may need to be changed depending on how worn out they are, you can reproduce these yourself. Jewelers do it all the time for chain clasps.
Only in modern watches do you have other components that supposedly need to be changed every time, and that's to paywall repair access and prevent third party watchmakers from doing what they have been doing for decades.
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>>18672640
A house/apartment? A car? Having a watch more expensive than those feels odd.
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>>18672642
Can you really say you're into watches if your house costs more than your watch?
Like "yeah bro, I'm into home reno and interior design and stuff, also watches". I am into watches 100%. Yes, I rent, but I own the watches you all just dream of owning.
Ya'll need to lock in and be serious about this stuff.
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I learned one thing from these threads and it's that watchfags are insufferable.
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>>18672638
Quartz is shit, i believe they just change the movement
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>>18672661
welcum to 4channel
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>>18670302
super nauseating watch
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>>18672669
>they just change the movement
With what?
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>>18672694
with another quartz movement
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>>18672705
Really?
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>>18672678
you said it. im literally vomiting rn.
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Seiko is releasing its own Rolex submariner

$3500, kek
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>>18672738
The 3500$ only date version surely must be more than 10 times better than the 300$ day date watch
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>>18672738
Other than it being a black dive watch i see no other similarities.
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Orange cat blue time.
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>>18672780
ceramic bezel, vintage colored hands, same proportions, pretty much everything, you contrarian faggot.
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Mahk just announced 25% off on Damaskos and even if you take 25% off this price this watch still seems wildly overpriced. Same with the other models.
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Here’s a silly picture of my uninspired yet delightful collection
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>>18672803
>silly picture
i read it as "slightly insecure"
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>>18672804
Cool
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>>18672803
On one hand I'm happy for anyone who can afford to get a bunch of watches they really like, but on the other hand there are so many people with fuckin reddit collections where they have a rolex(usually a sub or one of the GMTs) a cartier (usually a santos or a tank) and a third kind of toss up but still very on-the-list checkbox watch(usually a reverso or a speedmaster.)
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>>18672803
>>18672805
i like the turtle
But the two others are the most cliché shilled watches of the last 10 years. It's like, ok bitch, we know you watched too many youtube influencers. I'd sell them.
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>>18672782
Yes.
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>>18672808
>>18672809
May as well share the history of these

Rolex was a graduation gift 2016
Turtle was a gift from the wife 2020(?)
Santos I bought w my first commission check over 10k as a self gift 2020


I also rarely wear a watch. The sub and turtle I wear when wetsuiting surf fishing they should be

The santos is for business wear and I wfh 90% the time
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>>18672808
> there are so many people with fuckin reddit collections where they have a rolex(usually a sub or one of the GMTs) a cartier (usually a santos or a tank) and a third kind of toss up but still very on-the-list checkbox watch
Even reddit has moved from these basic bitch "GADA" collections.
If you go right now, you have collections with like a Ming, a Lange and an old Seiko.
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>>18672814
>Turtle was a gift from the wife
Another reason why it's the best watch of the three.
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>>18672817
Agreed and honestly a very cool collab. I am a big fisherman and proceeds partially went to a charity cleaning up ghost nets in the ocean .

Almost bought the green one too
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>>18672819
Meh, open heart watches are a classic newb trap. Get a normal one, preferably the 38mm, because the 40.5mm ones are too big (i owned one).
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>>18672824
Any alternative recommendations with an otherwise similar style?
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>>18672783
>no crown guards
>completely different lugs
>chunkier
>crown at 4
>It's basically the same.
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>>18672831
Yes. Seiko 6218-8971.
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>>18672833
That doesn't seem like a similar style...
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>>18672815
I dunno, I still see a bunch of collections that are like 6 rolexes, a speedmaster, and a seamaster, and some casios.
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>>18672831
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>>18672769
$3,500
$300
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Enjoyed a wonderful evening at Sunny’s steakhouse in Miami

Wore the Cartier over Ralph cashmere
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>>18672964
You still don't know how to post a photo right side up?
WTF? Why do I still see this even after I've educated so many of you?
"Mango !!"? What are you doing?
Learn to post images correctly.
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>>18672982
It’s been 13 years since i posted here figuring it out
These captchas suck
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>>18672990
Just resize it or edit it in any way. Even cropping it a tiny bit will lock it upright. Sorry for bitching at you.
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>>18672803
>>18672814
>>18672964
>>18672990
@LoreTadello
who's mango?
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>>18672640
why that specific model?
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>>18673004
cuz it's pricey, breh!
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>>18673007
let me rephrase it: why that specific rolex?
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>>18673007
The explorer is a fantastic watch. But it's very likely, besides a smaller size OP, literally the cheapest watch in Rolex's entire catalogue. Not a knock, but it's hardly "pricey", at least by Rolex standards.
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>>18673010
I'm not him but I can speak for him since I know the answer - the 36mm explorer is the objective correct size for a fixed bezel oyster case Rolex and the new bracelets they put on the modern ones have a taper that makes them much lighter and more comfortable, but they still have the professional clasp that beats the regular OP and datejust clasp. It's the perfect time only Rolex if that's what you're after.
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>>18672517
Weird way to admit you're a fucking coward without a point. But deflection seems to be what you do when challenged, so I suppose your cowardice is consistent and on brand.

You wouldn't think asking people to explain positions they feel strongly about to post would prove so difficult. So here you are... paradoxically retarded and on full display like some sort of grotesque art installation of cognitive decline
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>>18673017
It's one of the less expensive models in the catalogue but it's not far off from higher offerings. A steel Datejust with oyster bracelet is only $200 more than Explorer, jubilee is $400 more. Explorer is about $1k more than the equivalent OP.

Another fun fact, a date Submariner is about $2k more than a nodate Sub. So the price difference between a date and nodate sub is 10x greater than the price difference between an Explorer and a Datejust even though the Explorer and Datejust are actually way more different from each other.
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>>18673020
This post unironically reads like a Tim Mosso comment response.
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>>18669856
Love this autist.
What's his email again?
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>>18673041
"for availability and pricing detAYEls"
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>>18672642
oh i wasn't really counting real estate nor automobiles. i guess i meant something i can hold.
>>18673004
>>18673010
i have slim wrists and it looks perfectly designed to me. no cyclops, no date, modern oyster bracelet, essentially >>18673018
i'm also afraid of getting mugged if i get something showier
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>>18673045
>i'm also afraid of getting mugged if i get something showier
where do you live in for this to be the case?
Why is this such an accepted everyday thing as if it's normal?
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>>18673029
Interesting info. I would take an explorer over everything else you listed, too. Perhaps except the no-date sub. I do think a dive bezel has some actual real-world utility.
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>Can't we just look at the design and features of the watch without all the baggage of what reddit thinks?
Yeah, that's what we do.
It's genuinely fascinating how GSfags always imagine that Grand Seiko is "the enlightened choice" when the watches have so many inexcusable flaws. The truth is, the watches look atrocious (thick, large, angular, fully polished like the worst Breitling atrocities from the '90s, fat indices and hands). No micro-adjustment until recently. Their chronographs and divers are among the worst things I've seen in my life.
And Spring Drive is a nightmare... GS recommends servicing it every 3-4 years ($700-900 a pop), and only they can do it because it's a weird technology that only they produce. If you care about extreme accuracy just get a quartz or a radio-controlled watch or a smartwatch.
And on top of all that their marketing is cartoonish ("let me just photoshop a picture of a katana next to our watch, the weebs will love that"), the community is beyond cringe and the watches take a massive hit on the grey/second-hand market.
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>>18673063
I've found that regular Seiko sucks enough. If I ever decide to spend big money on a watch it wouldn't be with them.
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>>18673063
>So many inexcusable flaws, such as:
>I don't like the way they look
>They used to not have a feature that I like (to clarify yes they do have that feature now though)
>I really don't like the way some of them look
>Their recommended service interval is short, and servicing is expensive and only done by GS (valid point)
>I don't like their marketing
>I don't like my idea of the kind of people that buy them
>They take a hit on secondary, just like the vast majority of other watch brands
cool
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>>18673047
USA bros..... our response?
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>>18673063
After reading abiut all the fantastic zaibatsu polishing and whatnot for some time I finally saw a bunch in a shopwindow and was turned off forever. Big, clunky and unflattering shapes for the wrist. That was years and years ago. In the meantime they have made a handful of nice watches. Their old (up into the 70's I guess) stuff is great tho in many cases
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Don't like them? GOOD.
I don't want a normalfag wearing the same watch as me.
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>>18673083
highly based
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>>18673063
>The truth is, the watches look...
>truth
>look
Looks are subjective. You got triggered by someone mentioning GS.
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>>18673083
Nice watch, nice pic.
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>>18673084
>>18673090
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What do you guy think of it?
Is this just another microshitter?
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>>18673096
I think it looks nice. But it's misleading the way it's tilted. It looks better as diamonds than a grid. Aren't those like $500?
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>>18673096
Microshit brand BUT IN JAPAN.
Would you like them if it was "KUOE Brussels" or "KUOE Bratislava" on the dial?

Also, I've seen people having QC issues on these.
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>>18673063
The latest watxh fixed almost all of these issues, but those fixes haven't spread to other models yet.
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>>18672835
It's a Seiko, it's a nice dressy watch, and i think it looks even better. More accurate too. Costs about the same as well. But i can understand if you don't like it.
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>>18673083
Absolutely based AF brotha.
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>>18673083
>>18673084
peak /wt/
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Saturday basedko time
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>>18673142
basedbasedbasedbased
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>>18673113
>went from 5 days power reserve to 3 days
>fixed
kek
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>>18673083
>>18673084
what did we do to deserve such pictures?
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>>18673151
Our sins are numerous and the punishment will not end.
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NEW THREAD WHEN?

@OmegaDrunk
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>>18673116
I'm new, so correct me if I'm wrong, but it's pic related right? It has a white dial, lacks Roman numerals, and the weekday display seems a bit too much (ironic, considering that my initial one is open heart). Beyond being dressy, it doesn't resemble SARY187 to me.
>>18672907
That one also has a white dial. Otherwise, it looks nice, but it's also much, much more expensive.

I checked some shops near me, and while they break some of the points above, two watches caught my eye, and they don't do it by that much and have the benefit of me seeing them in person.
Any opinions on Tissot T1584071604100 and T0064071604300 ?
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>>18673155
He left and he will never come back. Nobody will remember his name.
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>>18672837
… and nobody posted his based watch

bunch of cowards as I always knew
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>>18673148
Would you rather have 5 days power reserve in a brick, or would you prefer a comfortable, wearable watch with 3 days?

3 days only very recently became common, by the way. It's actually kind of a lot of power.
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>>18669856
>And thanks for loggin on
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>>18673178
I wouldn't call a 40mm watch at 11mm thickness a brick but whatever.
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>>18673416
At this price point? For a glorified quartz watch? It really is, actually.
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>>18673434
I don't know man, if you dismiss the entirety of the spring drive like that, then I guess we won't be able to see eye to eye on this particular thing. And we don't have to. Let's agree to disagree.
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>>18673474
No, that won't do, you have to keep arguing with him.
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>>18673163
I made someone elso post it for me.
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>>18673486
NEW
>>18673580
>>18673580
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>>18673474
>I don't know man
You're right, you don't know.

The thinnest 40mm spring drive automatic is 12mm by the way, which is very average for sub $1k shitters, and many are bigger than that. That's why they started doing hand wind only spring drives, they were desperate to do anything they could to make smaller watches. The new smaller movement is an actual breakthrough for the brand, the question is when is it going to spread to more watches so they can stop making 44mm dive watches +14mm thick, and eventually maybe even make a chronograph based on it with acceptable dimensions for the price.

In the price point there are 36mm diameter automatic watches that are 10mm thick. And they can even have dates. There are even 10mm thick dive watches in the affordable watch space using off the shelf third party movements. Grand Seiko desperately needed this development to make spring drive less of a meme. It can now be actually competitive with regular swiss escapement movements.
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>>18673582
Fuck you.
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>>18673587
You seem desperate.
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>>18669856
Guilloche on the movement bridges? Sure, I'll ha e some. Do you do guilloche on the underside of the dial and on the underside of the date disc as well? Do you do engraved hairsprings?
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>>18673638
no u
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>>18673735
I feel the same way. Like the only reason they carve out fancy filigree on the actual parts is so they can add another $10K for no good reason.

>see? We used a 500 year old specialized machine do grind tiny little grooves into this shit under the hood. Just look at the master craftsmanship which serves no purpose at all! And the buckle clasp is NOT SIGNED. How disappointing that they didn't mark every millimeter of this watch with some painstaking flourish.
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>>18674013
Wait until you figure out that the reason they make watches using gears, pinions, and springs instead of quartz, batteries, and circuits is so they can charge you more than $20.
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>>18674013
Movement finishing details like that actually are functional. They're meant to capture and hold things like excess oils or moisture or debris that may somehow end up rolling around in the movement. But, of course, on the higher end watches they're going above and beyond on the creative and artistic side of it.
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>>18674025
Hardy fucking har.
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>>18674025
Even quartz movements will often have finishes like this for the same reasons.
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>>18674062
Instead of $20 for a quartz shitter, paying $200 for a miyota shitter, or paying $2k for a longines, or paying $20k for a Patek... are you telling me there's some real meaningful difference to you between any two of those that doesn't exist between all of the rest?
Or is it just
>well one of those jumps is a lot more money and I can't afford it so it must be more ridiculous than the nonsensical 10x jump in price that I *can* afford
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>>18674081
>often
Cmon now... actually, is there a single example that isn't GS?
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>>18674082
It actually is a lot more ridiculous, though. You can buy a car for the $20-80k Patek charges for a watch, even 2 or 3 of them. That could cover for like 20 years worth of transportation. $2k is nothing by comparison, gainfully employed people will spend twice that on a hobby in a year without thinking twice about it.
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>>18674084
Yes. Pretty much every movement that isn't $0.50 made in china garbage for spider-man watches at wal-mart.
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>>18674089
and if you went to some third world shithole you could probably buy someone's daughter for $2k.
Pateks simply aren't for people making median wages, they're for people that make so much money that $20k is as reasonable a price to spend on a frivolous luxury as $2k is for you.
The guy who's daughter you bought would find dropping $2k on a useless watch exactly as ridiculous as you think $20k is for a Patek
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>>18674090
To my knowledge none of these movements are in watches with exhibition case backs either, this is not done just to show off. The only people going to look at these is watchmakers and maybe mall jewelry store battery change guys.
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>>18674091
>abject poverty exists, therefore frivolity is a relative social construct and cannot be evaluated
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>>18674097
I'm just saying that it's relative you jakposting faggot.
Saying that a watchmaker adding an extra layer of frivolity on top of the ten layers of frivolity already inherent to a mechanical watch is done
>for no good reason
and acting as if you're a genius that discovered the Truth™ is retarded.
Yeah, no shit hand engraved movements are frivolous. The entire concept of a mechanical watch is frivolous and unnecessarily expensive in the 21st century.
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>>18674090
>>18674092
Interesting, most of the quartz movements and pics of them I've seen don't have any sort of finishing like that, if you scroll through caliber corner for example it seems pretty rare.
I don't really pay much attention to "luxury quartz" though.
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>>18674098
You're taking it to an extreme that's completely retarded.

Yeah, relatively speaking it's "affordable" to them. That doesn't mean it isn't objectively a lot of fucking money. And the kind of people that can afford a Patek know that better than anyone, some of the cheapest penny pinching pricks you'll ever meet in your life are rich people. A lot of people who get rich didn't get there by having their parents hand it to them, they got it by doing all the overtime work they could and clipping coupons and saving a little money here and there on everything. They know the amount of money they're paying on the watch is retarded. But they like it so they do it.
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>>18674103
Forgot to mention also that third worlders not being able to afford something is not because things are expensive, it's because they are struggling to survive in a failed economic and social system. When a miner in Africa who gets paid in 2 cups of rice a day can't afford a Timex it's not because the Timex is outrageously overcosted.
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>>18674099
Luxury quartz sounds like an oxymoron.
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>>18674103
Yeah man, I'm sure most Patek owners saved up for their watch by clipping coupons.
And yes, it's an objectively large sum of money spent on a frivolity... but they can afford it easily, so what's the actual difference? That objective large sum of money objectively has less value to you when your net worth is 10x the average.
$2k is also objectively a decent amount of money to drop on a hobby.
So what's your point? Spending a decent amount of money on a watch when you can comfortably afford it is totally reasonable, but spending a large amount of money on a watch when you can comfortably afford it is not? They're both equally frivolous luxury purchases.
If $2k is 2% of my yearly salary why is that not an absurd spend on a luxury but 2% of a $1mil salary is?
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>>18674103
>>18674112
Guys. We all hate the rich. What is there to argue about?
Anyone defending $20,000 watch clearly hopes to be rich and is already cultivating that superior mindset. So let's all just agree that spending anywhere near that much is out of our budget and stupid. Yes, if rich faggots want to do it, fine for them. But really they should not be so much more rich than us.
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>>18674112
>$2k is also objectively a decent amount of money to drop on a hobby.
Not really? You probably spend more than that on your pet in a year. Is having a pet also a luxury?
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>>18674114
I'm not rich and I know that I never will be, but I earn more money than I need to survive and I believe that I'm entitled to the money that I've earned. I don't think that anyone who earns less than I do has any right to say that I shouldn't be allowed to have so much money because I have more than I need while they have to struggle.
So out of principle I don't agree, rich people should be allowed to be rich, economics isn't a zero sum game.
But yeah I'm jealous of them, and I hope they use at least some of their wealth for good. If they don't though that's their business, as long as they pay taxes.
I'm just saying that a solely frivolous luxury purchase is always a ridiculous irrational thing to do, and adding an additional layer of frivolity doesn't really make it any more absurd assuming it's equally affordable for the buyer.
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>>18674117
>Is having a pet also a luxury?
Pretty much yeah?
I'm not saying that $2k is a LOT of money, just that it's not a tiny insignificant sum.
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>>18674112
Don't ask stupid questions, you know why.
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>>18674119
>I'm not saying that $2k is a LOT of money, just that it's not a tiny insignificant sum.
So what is it?
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>>18674121
a decent amount of money
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>>18674119
>it's not a lot of money, but it's not a little money
Is all money meaningless? We have no perspective with which one can judge the worth of something?
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>>18674122
Any amount of money you give me that I didn't have before would be a decent amount of money.
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>>18674123
>>18674125
It's exactly two thousand US dollars worth of money; it's 2.4% of the 2024 Median household income in the US of $83,730.
Sure man. That penny you found on the ground was a decent amount of money since the phrase apparently doesn't mean anything to you.
I hope you've achieved whatever you were hoping to accomplish by arguing the most pointless of semantics here.
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>>18674126
I don't know what you're trying to argue a "decent" amount of money is. Is it just based on income? Who's income, your own or some average or median? Does your country or economic situation matter? Does personal taste or interest matter, for example someone in a lower tax bracket who loves watches a lot might pay the extra money to spring for a rolex instead of a longines because it's something he's passionate about and wants to invest in? Maybe the extra money is a lot for him but he doesn't see it that way because of the personal interest he has in preferring to buy a rolex over 3 Longines?
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>>18674131
Ok, so I guess you're just trolling, or not reading what I'm writing.
>If $2k is 2% of my yearly salary why is that not an absurd spend on a luxury but 2% of a $1mil salary is?
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>>18674135
You're saying 2% of your own salary is "decent money." What does that actually mean? Is 5% also "decent money" or is that a different category? Where do we cross over from "decent money" to "crazy money" or whatever? Is it not affected by your passions for hobbies or interests? Moreover, wtf am I suppose to do with this? I don't see why anyone should give a fuck what you personally think "decent" means.
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>>18674189
>wtf am I suppose to do with this?
...what are you ""suppose"" to do with the question I asked you...?
...answer it? Or don't, fucking retard.
Do you seriously enjoy spending your time being like this?
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>>18674192
Wtf am I answering for? Seriously, what do you want?

I'm trying to understand what you think "a decent amount of money" means and how you think I'm supposed to use that to figure out how much is acceptable to spend on...... Literally anything, I guess?

Like why shouldn't I spend $10k a year on watches? Is that better or worse than buying one $30k watch and never buying a watch again? Is $10k on one watch bad but $10k spread across a bunch of shitters good?

I'm honestly trying to understand what your perspective is and wtf we're talking about here.
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>>18674273
>I'm honestly trying to understand
If this is true, you're really fucking stupid.
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>>18674395
One of us is retarded, that's for sure.
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