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Fullcount 1101. Yes or no?
If I want to speed up the process of softening the fabric of my new raws but I’m also concerned about indigo loss (I don’t want high-contrast fades too soon) am I better off walking miles in them or taking a bath with them? In other words, should I give priority to usage or to the powers of handwashing?
>>18676514Can someone with anti-polyesther autism tell me if samurai undyed white jeans are 100% cotton? I know their regular jeans are but it doesn't say on the undyed ones.Also same question for the socks, are they 100% cotton?
Are there any good options for unwashed, unsanforized denim besides STF 501s?
>>18676587Yes it’s 100% cotton for both.
>>18676638Do you own some? They good?
>>18676661Don’t own any. Just googled it for you since you couldn’t ;<). But I don’t doubt they’re good
>>18676667Yeah, it doesn’t say so on Samurais website so if you don’t actually have any insight you information is fucking worthless
>>18676539If you don't want high contrast you just need to wash them more and they'll fade more evenly. If the goal is to keep them looking dark and new for as long as possible you'll need to use woolite dark or some meme denim detergent.
>>18676671They’re sold on plenty of websites
>>18676539>(I don’t want high-contrast fades too soon)You can't really hasten the break-in period and also end up with high-contrast fades later unless you're getting a pair of extremely tight or heavy jeans. The stiffness of raw jeans helps them fold and crease at specific lines which is what creates highs and lows where indigo loss happens more and less respectively. If they're tight and/or heavy the fabric is forced to do that regardless of the rawness.Just commit to either doing a high contrast fade or a more even fade with a new pair.
>>18676535Yes
>>18676535Are they always this embarassingly low-rise or are there different versions available of them?
>>18676514DAMN that's a big butt
>>18676858yeah it’s intended for placing your face in it
>>18676807Okay got the black and gray version. Hope it fits. 25% off on cultizm>>1867685712”
>>18676700>>18676730The fabric is not molding to my body. In particular there is too room in the butt. That’s also why I thought of bathing with them on. Though I’m not sure, cause I hadn’t these problems with previous raws. Should I just keep working, sitting and walking with them?
>>18676872*too much room
I got this Levi's Staprest jackets for five eurobucks. Label says it was made in 99'. It's 60-40 cotton polyester. The fabric feels thick and stiff and the color is quite nice (couldn't get the exact shade on camera). Was mostly an impulse buy due to the price, honestly. Has some velcros inside that attach to nothing. I guess I'll give it a shot, try it with a couple of fits to see if I can make it work and either keep it or flip it.
>>18676955>60-40 cotton polyesterwouldn't take that trash for free
>>18676858it kinda looks fake
>>18676872Unless they were sold as unsanforized or shrink to fit the bathing won't do much. You could wash them in really hot water to shrink them. That's a bit of a gamble of course since you can get them well below your size and then have to figure out how to stretch them out just to be able to put them on. Once you can do that then they'll begin stretching out to conform to your body.The truth is that the jeans probably just don't fit you very well because of the brands cut not matching your body shape, and never will.
>>18676535I have such mixed feelings about this cut. If you size up once, it looks like a perfect straight cut, but they have this weird amount of restriction in the crotch area that I don't understand. I wear a size 34 in Sugarcane 1947 which fits me perfectly and I went with a size 35 in the Fullcount 1101 to give a near exact leg dimension as my sugarcanes. The two different jeans look almost exactly the same in terms of silhouette. The top block of the 1101 does not fit too loose or too tight, but I couldn't lift my legs without feeling tightness and tension in the crotch. I sold them and went with the 0105 cut instead which is infinitely better as long as you enjoy a slightly wider leg. If you are wanting a pair of Fullcounts specifically, I think there is a reason that the 0105 is considered their best cut. Zero restriction in movement, and they are absurdly comfortable. Ultimately, people are buying Fullcounts specifically for the balance of comfort provided by the zimbabwean cotton and vintage aesthetic. However, if you cant stand the wide or slouched silhouette and you like the silhouette of the 1101 or a more traditional 1940s/50s 501 cut, you would be better off just opting for the SC1947 or the Warehouse 1001xx.
Is there a good visual guide of how the Levi’s 501 fit has changed over the years?
>>18677172Thank you. A lot of good information. Yeah maybe should have gone with 0105 now that I’ve been looking at how it fits. Wanted a pair of black jeans though and the 1101bg was on sale. If it doesn’t work out I’ll buy one of the ones you’ve recommended.
>>18676539Maybe look into soaking with vinegar. I have a bunch of wrangler 13mwz's that softened up a bunch with one or two vinegar soaks and minimal indigo loss. They're also like 20 bucks each so I didn't worry about it but they came out great
>>18677511Try here: https://www.jeansza.com/en/blog-jeans/tracing-the-legend-of-levi-s-501-lvc
My Levi 541s have shrunk and faded quite a bit are there any better options or should I just buy another pair
>>18677515Pic related are my Fullcounts. The 1101 might fit you really well without any of the mobility issues, but if you end up running into the same issue as me i would strongly suggest sending them back and just opting for the 0105. Even if you have to spend a few extra bucks, the 0105 is so enjoyable to wear that it’s just 100% worth pulling the trigger. I’ve worn through a shit ton of really nice jap 501 repros and they all end up softening up and getting really comfy, but there is a level of comfort that Fullcount’s denim reaches that any other company cannot really compete with and it’s ultimately the reason why I always yearn to put this particular pair on more than anything else.
>>18677172What are your measurements? Quads, calves, waist?
>>18677779Never measured my actual leg measurements, but if I'm looking for more of a balanced 501 straight leg, my ideal size chart for jeans are:>Waist: 33-33.5">FR: 12.5">BR:16.5-17">Thigh: 13.4-13.5">Knee: 10">Hem: 9"The 1101 isn't a "terrible" cut in that it looks bad. I actually think it looks really good as long as you size your thighs correctly. It just has a tiny bit more restriction in the crotch than what I prefer and I'm VERY autistic about that shit and its why I typically just opt for "wide" or "relaxed" cuts
>>18677785I'm in the same ballpark, personally prefer a slightly tapered jean though. Thanks for sharing.
>>18677792>personally prefer a slightly tapered jean thoughFreewheelers 1951 is a perfect fitting tapered jean. Nice roomy top block with slightly more taper to the hem without being within the "millennial taper" zone
>>18677792>>18677793Tapered fits are bad, thougheverbeit
kino
https://www.onedimetime.com/products/black-canvas-workwear-chinoAnyone heard of this company? Don't wanna get bogged. Been looking for canvas work pants that don't look like silly cargo pants
It says here Iron Heart 21 oz. restocks take 2-3 years, would you care to explain?
>>18678016Explain them not making 1955 regular release
>>18678027Does it matter? It used to have a wider leg opening before they brought it back
>>186780271955, more like 1954 amirite?
How do I replicate the JCVD silhouette? What jeans are similar to this cut?
Another pic.
>>18677793What would you rank the jeans you have tried from best to worst, in terms of fit.>Freewheelers 1951Thanks for the recommendation, what do you think of Orslow 105?
>>18678264>>18678265Those are probably 80's 505s.>high waist>straight fitted leg
>>18678264They’re just Levi’s 501 or 505 you dumbotard
>>18676514
Okayama 20% off sale right now
I want the sugarcane super denim, but the price is kinda ridiculous. I've been wearing their 1947s that I paid $160 for but I can't commit to a $420 pair that is more accurate in its reproduction.
>>18678620I tried the 1945 super denim collectibles at Self Edge last month. Decent fit, but it’s just autism with all of the unnecessary historic details, not worth how much they charge for those. They’re literally made intentionally bad to accurately represent the shitty war time construction details. If you’re looking for an incredible, reasonably priced pair of repros, the TCB 30s is so fucking underrated it’s just criminal. Perfect wide/relaxed cut, and the denim has insane fade potential. I got a pair a couple months ago and was kind of blown away at how sturdy these things feel
Anyone make jeans like Diesel in these kind of faded patterns with zipper flies? I can't stand buttons
Do the direct dye overdyed iron hearts fade differently than their older sulfur overdyed jeans? I have a pair of slubby overdyed jeans and the fades are showing up a bit more blue than I expected
How good are vintage Armani Jeans (AJ) jeans? The whole sub-brand was discontinued in 2017
despite its name, the N&F strong guy fit is not good for strong guys
>>18678735What about true guy? Can I wear them as a transman?
>>18678761It depends, are you clocky?
>>18678721The ones that are on the roomier side are too-tier. Also quite durable.
>>18678816*top-tier
>>18678735The cut looks weird. Also, there’s an entire universe of selvedge brands that make infinitely better looking jeans. All of N&F cuts are gay, and their entire brand depends on retard millennial cultists to purchase literally every one of their gimmicky “limited edition denim” drops. Samurai and Iron Heart are the Japanese equivalents of the same retardation. These types of companies get mogged by the Osaka 5 and other repro brands. They have their few select jeans that are perfect and balanced, and they just make those jeans because they know everyone loves the tried and true recipe and that they will all be purchased shortly after a restock
>>18678852The most outlandish thing Iron Heart sells is their overdyed denim, seems a little unfair to compare them to N&F and Samurai
>>18678862I actually consider the overdyed black denim to be their least outlandish thing. The fades on those jeans are pretty subtle in terms of not really contrasting too hard and in terms of the color being more of a muted color. Out of all those companies mentioned, Iron Heart’s 21 oz denim exists as a small exception to what I would categorize the others as gimmicky. It’s very soft, and it has the ability to fade more like a vintage denim which makes it look more versatile. All the other shit from samurai, Oni, N&F and other millennial tier brands are over the top, textured, heavy weight nonsense. Even Iron Heart’s other denims are arguably gimmicky; 25 oz, 19 oz LHT with an ungodly tight weave, ultra slubby 16 oz. If Iron Heart just became a flannel company, I would not be that angry
Gonna get me some Flat Head 3004/3005 jeansOnly pair of jeans I have in my wardrobe are some Uniqlo jeans that are a bit loose now since I lost some weight
>>18678933The 3004 has a superior top block, go with those. I tried the 3005 in a local store and it had a horrendously low rise and tight top block. Their 14.5 oz pioneer denim is fucking timeless though
>my fullcount 1101 size 33 is like 34,5 inchesDamn that’s unfortunate. Thought the Japanese had small waists. Had expected it to be like 32 or something. Can’t even size down because they don’t do a 34 inseam below 33 waist.
>>18679078This is always why you look at the size charts before buying anything. The 1101bk has a huge waist size, but the normal indigos have an actual waist size around 33 inches in size 33.
>>18679138>waist size changes depending on colourFucking nips. Should I tumble dry them or something? How much do you usually lose in the waist if you hot wash and tumble dry? They’re already One Washed.
>>18679161If they’re already one washed, you’re definitely not going to shrink the waist 1.5” even with a hot wash and tumble dry. I would strongly recommend sending back and exchanging for the 0105. Fullcount’s denim has a relatively loose weave, so it will stretch out a bit. I wear size 34 in most jap brands and opted for size 33 with the 0105 for a perfect fit. If the retailer is willing to work with you, you could also just ask for a refund and spend the money on a pair of one of the following:>Sugarcane 1947>Warehouse 1001xx>Freewheelers 1947
>>18678867>variety of fabrics including a super heavy weight and a moderately slubby option are as gimmicky as N&F cum-dyed weftMind-broken by Nippon motorcyclist apparel
>>18679309Yeah, it’s all meme bullshit
>>18676514>*brap*
>>18679311>ad hominem I accept your concession
>>18678961Cool thanks for the heads up. Turns out there's a decent discount at a local retailer for that pair specifically too.
>>18679361Might be worth checking out their 8004 and D111 cuts. Not usually a fan of heavier weight denim, but the 18 oz on the 8004 is actually really fuckin nice. The D111 is a solid wide cut with Zimbabwean cotton. I’ve been wanting to get a pair of flat heads this year and it’s honestly kind of hard to choose
>>18676514Do any of the current Uniqlo raw jeans have a button fly? I remembered years ago they did but then they switched to zippers
>>18676539Just wash them once, a full length proper wash (and hour or whatever your machine does). They will always fade as long as you wear them. The wash them again maybe 3 months after. Then however often you wantI pretty much always buy my raw jeans second hand and wash them and Im pretty sure the previous owner has washed them before and they always end up getting my own bodies fades
So am I supposed to cut these off or what?
Should I get some Full Count or Flat Head jeans? I usually get one pair a year and wear it for a year straight.
>>18679610Depends what you’re looking for. Fullcount is the pinnacle of comfort and drape with that true vintage 501 aesthetic. However, the only cut that’s really worth getting is the 0105 which definitely exists on the wider/loose end of the straight cut spectrum. Their 1101 cut looks really great, but a lot of people experience tightness in the crotch area. The 0105 wasn’t something I initially liked, but as they softened up they became one of my top 3 favorite pairs of all time. In contrast, Flat Head has more vibrant high contrast fade potential since it comes in a much darker indigo dye. In my opinion, Flat Head has better, more balanced top blocks and leg silhouettes, whereas Fullcount is intentionally designed to be drapey/slouchy for practical function, movement, and comfort. Best Flat Head cut is the 3004/8004. Gives you a roomy top block but with (in my opinion) a balanced taper so that the jeans don’t look super dumpy after they wear in. I also think Flat Head’s build quality feels a little more beefy or durable, but it’s not on the same level as iron heart since the thread is still cotton and will eventually break over time
>>18679613My favorite pair of jeans I own are my TCB 50s but I fucked up and they were hemmed too short. But that fit is my favorite. I could just get another pair but they are extremely slow faders in my experience Based on what you said I think I'll check out the Flat Head jeans
Fades on my Freewheelers 1947
>>18679617If you want to keep that really straightforward repro style similar to the TCB 50s, the Sugarcane 1947 is actually pretty close to those in terms of cut/dimensions. However, the Flat Head 3004 is such a great pair and the denim will have more vibrant fading and prominent vertical slubbing if that’s something you like
I hate button flys. I have never owned a single pair of jeans with a button fly where the button holes didn't warp and stretch out over time
Thingken of getting a denim jacketAlso, thoughts on the "leafcuck tuxedo" look?
>>18679647>thoughts on the "leafcuck tuxedo" look?Shut the fuck up you stupid retard
>>18679649You’re an angry angry man
>>18679647If you’re going to pull off double denim, do a type I or II jacket. Both of those have a boxier cropped cut, whereas the Type III is too slim and will give you more of that unflattering skinnyfat millenial silhouette. Some people say to avoid the same shade of indigo with both the top and bottoms, but I personally don’t think it’s that big of a deal compared to how well both the jeans and jacket complement your proportions and what color you’re contrasting with beneath the jacket. You will not find a better Type I or II cut than the Freewheelers stuff
Anyone know where to find cheap good work socks?
>>18679668walmart
>>18679647People keep bringing up the double denim thing as some fashion sin but I've never understood the fuzz. Yeah maybe if you're hanging around very fashionable people and they expect you to put in more effort so you showing up to the club in your monochrome outfit it just creates a clash of styles. Still, black jeans with blue jacket is also an easy to follow rule similar to matching leather colors with the belt and shoes.
>>18679668absolutely hilarious thinking there are people helpless and retarded enough that they came to the internet and 4chan of all places to ask the fashion board where to buy shitty socks
Iron Heart releasing new wider fit this month, 684. At least in Germany. Would be easier to see if it’s any good if he wasn’t wigger saggin’ though.
>>18679701They’re releasing it in some new 16 oz denim. If they end up releasing a pair in their 21 oz overdyed black then I would jump on it, but it’s basically just a normal 1947 style cut with repro looking denim. If I wanted another pair of normal repros, I’d choose from like 10 other companies over IH. The only denim worth getting from IH is their 21 oz variations, it’s their forte. It blows my mind that there are actually people who buy their 14 oz
>>18679706>1947 repro but with superior polycotton stitchingAlright I’m officially getting intrigued
Indigofera Kirk vs Freenote Cloth Modesto. Any thoughts?
>>18679701I want a pair of Iron Hearts but I don't like how far apart the back pockets are
