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If I want to grow muscle and get big do you move the weight quick or slow?
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>>74139135
Slow no matter what. Moving fast with heavy weights is almost always guaranteed to fuck you up.
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>>74139140
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>>74139135
If you have to do a movement fast, you aren't as strong as you think you are.
Drop weight by half, movements should take about 2 seconds, maybe even three depending on insertion.
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>>74139169
it's the bill of rights not the bill of have to's commie
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I see retards lifting fast all the time at the gym. They are pretending to be strong, while momentum does all the work. Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Going fast means you a) finish faster b) don't even have good tension because your cheating using momentum.
Rep count doesn't matter. Sets don't matter. Weight doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how much time you can keep tension on the muscle when performing the exercise (without breaking the tension!!) That's why deadlifts suck and are for powershitters and PR chasing faggots who range from DYELs to complete lardasses. If you see someone with a good body doing deadlifts, they most certainly did not getting doing deadlifts.
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>>74139250
Still seething about Israel's dying breath I see.
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>>74139135
Slower and controlled. You need full ROM. Quick isn't bad unless you're using momentum to do the work the muscle should be doing to grow.
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>>74139135
fast concentric, slow eccentric. simple as.
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>>74139310
Objectively false. If TUT mattered why dont you just take 5lbs play league of legends and do reps that last 5 minutes for several hours? you would get 100000x gains
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>>74139423
Good Morning Sirs!
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>>74139135
fast concentric slower eccentric
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>>74139135
1-2 second concentric/3-4 second negative is a good starting point. The concentric should only be as slow as required to eliminate momentum. There's no point making it slower. 1-2 seconds is about what it should be for most exercises when performed in a controlled fashion. Wrist curls and calf exercises can be done much faster due to their short rom. For something like squats and conventional deadlift only use a controlled negative. Don't even worry about taking 3-4 seconds. They're not stable enough for it and you should be using heavy weight for them anyways.
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>>74139135
Both, you need both endurance and explosive strength
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>>74139310
>Time under tension is the major factor to muscle growth. TIME!!
Unfortunately, this is not the case. Time under tension is a tracking tool for isometrics to replace reps for progression. It is not a factor in growth. Total tension on a muscle, percentage of 1RM, and proximity to failure are more important.
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>>74139135
All the autistic shit don't matter just do full ROM till failure or close to it. It's way more important to learn proper biomechanics and fully utilize your muscles and understand them than do some shit technique. Only difference with a fast movement is that you are going to have to do more reps till you reach failure
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>>74139498
>All the autistic shit don't matter
>just do full ROM
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>>74139135
If you want bigger muscles you eat more and lift more.
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>>74139140
Explain every single professional athlete ever.
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Muscle gank is when your muscle rolls over the bone, for instance I just ganked my glute shifting my weight to the side.
My butt bone rolled over the glute while sitting on the edge of the bathtub.
It made a sound like "gonk" that echoed in the tub.
Let me know what you think in the comments
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>>74139518
Half-reppers not allowed in this board sir please understand
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>>74139140
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>>74139423
TUT is a wide band but you do need to use appropriate load for the TUT you chose.
>>74139418
This. Explosive concentric is even better as you use maximum force. Just keep tension 100% of the time.
>>74139437
Done in different sets or trainings. Optimal TUT is for metabolic stress type training. Mechanical stress type training is very low rep which is also needed for a natty to progress.
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>>74139590
this your boy?
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>>74139539
training for a specific athletic outcome and skill transference, not muscular hypertrophy
really that hard?
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>>74139135
Explosive concentric, slow eccentric. Depending on goals and the lift in question, 1-2 second concentric and 3-5 second eccentric should work. Aim to keep muscle tension on the way down as if you were just finishing the concentric all the way down. The exception is big lifts like DL where back is involved, as fatigue becomes an issue.
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>>74139471
Area under the curve, it seems, is the important gauge of exercise efficiency. Total tensile load for given recruited fibers over a given time. Have to account for fiber microtears and metabolic factors in fringe cases (isometrics, low loads, endurance work).
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>>74139135
do a rep. now imagine yourself from the 3rd person, watching you do that rep. if you look retarded, you're probably doing it wrong. if you don't look retarded, you doing alright
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>>74139645
You (or the anon I replied to if you aren't him) said lifting heavy weights fast fuck you up, pro athletes don't seem to have an issue, claiming lifting fast and heavy hurts you is retarded and back pedalling like you did is even more retarded.
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>>74139435
>The concentric should only be as slow as required to eliminate momentum
then u might as well hold it statically - same difference
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>>74139423
Why are you so obsessed with people playing league and curling a 5lb dumbell as your argument? I see your cringe fucking ass post this exact thing all the time, you're weird af
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>>74139471
>Total tension on a muscle
what is the difference between that and time under tension? That's literally the same thing to me.
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>>74139645
But at the cost of fucking you up, right?
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>>74139761
how can I back-pedal if I didn't make the original point?
professional athletes also have legions of teams to help them with recovery, specialised training, and other bullshit

your average dyel /fit/ poster that's 30% BF at 160lbs aren't even in the same ballpark
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>>74139135
for compounds I will try to be explosive.
for isolations I will be more controlled and push out reps.
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>>74139135
controlled (not necessarily slow, just controlled) eccentric. Explosive/fast concentric.

Don't fall for the slow reps meme. Just control it on the way down and explode on the way up.
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As long as you do them to failure, it doesn't matter.
moving slow is safer and better for your joints and ligaments
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>>74140424
Imagine walking into the gym and this asshole is taking 30 seconds to perform two reps on a machine you need to use. The best bodybuilders didn't get big doing this wanky shit.
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>>74141222
that really is pretty extreme but you cant argue his results at that age
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>>74139135
Move it however you want, the important part is that it feels heavy.
t. 180IQ
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>>74139135


Positive portion quickly, negative portion slowly. Do not use too much weight - good resistance & ample control.
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>>74140424
>Angry face
>Tries to look menacing
Very incel
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>>74139539

>explain pro athletes

Unironically they get injured all the time, sometimes so hard their career ends
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>>74141326
the results are from roids retard
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>>74139135
I tried slow and wasn’t impressed. Control the weight, keep the mind muscle connection active to keep the tension on the muscle during the negative and not the joints. That is absolutely vital and takes a lot more skill and concentration than people realize. But I find the results from slow negatives to be underwhelming and for me personally it’s demoralizing because it’s such a boring and tedious way to train.
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>>74139140
If the weight is heavy enough, you shouldn't be able to move it fast anyway.
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>>74141709

This happens naturally at least after the first couple reps. If I can easily complete my set, if my last reps aren't slower than my first couple ones, I know I'm not lifting heavy enough. But this is not by choice.
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>>74139135
I lift it with heavy ass weight and I don’t care what people are screaming about in the background.
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>>74139418
was looking for this, seconded
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>>74139135
Moving fast or explosively during exercise provides no advantages over moving slowly, only increases risk of injury. There is absolutely no reason you should move quickly during exercise. You don't need to move fast during exercise to recruit your fast twitch motor units, you don't need it to improve explosiveness in other activities, and moving slowly during exercise is not going to make you slower during other activities.



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