Happy hump day edition>Who is /fat/ for?For Unfit Ungulates who are working towards a longer life and a better physique through meaningful hard-work, strategy, and dedication. This is not QTDDTOT, stick to questions on fat loss. Post height and weight when asking for advice.Join our Fatty Contest: https://www.fattycontest.com/>What do I do first?1. Read https://physiqonomics.com/fat-loss/2. Calculate your Body Fat Percentage: https://fitness.bizcalcs.com/Calculator.asp?Calc=Body-Fat-Navy3. Calculate your TDEE: https://www.sailrabbit.com/bmr/Remember to use bodyfat% and use Katch-McArdle Formula with sedentary settings or your TDEE will be too high.4. Plan your weight loss: https://www.losertown.org/eats/cal.php5. Track your nutrition with MyFitnessPal (better for packaged food), Cronometer (better for generic food/macros) or LoseIt (great for both).>Now what?Count calories, all of them.Eat about 500-1000 less calories than your TDEE.Buy scales, be accurate.Learn to cook. Try to stick to lean protein and green vegetables.Eat a lot of protein. 0.72g per pound of goal lean body mass.Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy fat heart, but you can offset the risks.Lifting weights will keep and gain muscle mass and burn fat much quicker. No lifting results in the body burning away muscle AND fat.Drink more water.Read the /fit/ sticky: https://liamrosen.com/fitness.html>DON'TEat refined sugars, they're terrible for you regardless of calories.Eat processed foods.Drink your calories (alcohol, soda, Starbucks).Freak out over a weight loss stall. Plateaus can last up to three weeks."Reward" yourself. Cheat days cheat only yourself.>Other resources:Loose skin, gynecomastia & stretch marks: https://weight-loss-side-effects.netlify.app/Reddit Wiki: https://www.reddit.com/r/loseit/wiki/faqPrevious thread: >>74215148
Can we merge this general with /plg/? They really need it.
>>74223954Sure pal. Meet you over there. I'll be posting as an angry guy who can't seem to read the room or reply directly to posts.
>>74223956Thanks friend.
Crazy that I can put eight fucking cubes of sugar into my coffee and still be less than a can of doctor pepper.
>>74223971Crazy that you think that's food, all of you are like this. (no wonder you're diseased)
>>74223937It is weird how I can only shit when I've drunken the same amount of weight in water. There must be some way for the body to sense the pressure on your feet and balance things accordingly. Can't just be hydration, poop isn't as watery as water. Its either sensed in the feet or to do with balance and the inner ear.
>>74223977I swear to god CICO causes brain damage.
>>74223983https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2664681/
>eat the same stuff for months>sometimes don't shart for 10 days>suddenly back to shidding every daywhat's up with my body, this doesn't make any sense
>made myself a rule that anything I catch or forage is "outside" the CICO im running as incentive to go outside more and learn new skills>most of the time find very little but keeps me interested in walking and doing stuff>fishan season coming up, usually fish a few days a year only and catch very little, but now am excited about how it goes
>>74223983You're right, its very hard to know sense we can't consciously gauge the pressure on our feet accurately. I'm almost sure its an inner ear thing working like an accelerometer to determine mass.
>increase weights per hand by 2 kilograms>can't even do 5 reps before tiring out despite even doing 25 reps when I used 2 kilograms less per handThings are looking sad, ngl.
>>74223992Honestly not terrible. Unless you are an actual hunter or you live next to a salmon spawning river or some shit, most stuff you can find or catch will burn more calories in getting them than you will get from eating them.
>>74223986If I don't shit within 4days I eat fiber gummies that make me shit within 2hours.
>>74223992Catch some wasps and make honey.
>>74223971I thought the drinks in yurop were bad until I tried imported stuff from the US. Especially root beer, some of those are around 200 calories a can
>>74223937hey fatbros, I have a question. How does my split look for the next 6 weeks? I'm going on an extended stay in my home country and will not have access to a gym for around 2 months so I'm trying to get as lean as possible. I'm doing 1 mile a day of HIIT running, followed by 90 mins of lifting. In addition, I am also running a 300cal deficit. I am considering upping it a bit more to 500cals, but depends on if I can get enough protein in. Stats: 176cm 96kg (goal is 90kg) Picrel is current fizeek, sorry for shit crop.
>taller people have more muscle mass and thus they have better metabolism. This helps them to burn more calories in lesser time. >So more the lean muscle mass, better the metabolism and more the calorie-intake.manletbros...
>>74224142>people who need more calories have to eat more caloriesWoah big find
>>74224159yeah but it's not fair, fucking lanklets RRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Broke into the 220lbs range this morning.
>>74224240going up or going down?
>>74223975Crazy that you think lexapro makes you happy, anhedone.
>>74224308Going down (229 ish from 255 ish since March)
Since nobody responded in the last thread, is making your deficit 200 cals steeper noticeable in energy levels?
>>74224417excellent!>>74224436every (((body))) is different. give it a shot, but don't go too crazy.
>>74224308down, lost 6kgs in the last 2 monthsMaybe 3 months. I kind of lost track.
>>74224203your fat brain is getting mad that you cant eat more slop youre smaller so you should eat less. you shouldnt ahve to eat as much and you should feel satiated quicker. stop eating hyper processed food for enjoyment
fat people be like: popopopopboopthin people be like. bobobobobpoop
how do I avoid headache/head pressure when i don't eat. I can ignore hunger but when I don't eat I get head pressure and feel weird. I always think its my blood sugar but I always get a normal reading. I'm not diabetic but have access to a tester. So I'm guessing the headache is being caused by a lack of something else
>>74224617You get used to at after a while. After a while more, it doesn't happen anymore.
>>74224617It really does take time to adjust to things. Sorry you have to go through it. The same is true for all 'cold turkey' changes to major lifestyle action. Dropping caffeine and the like can be weaned, just like dependence on food, but it's very difficult to do both, and faster if you can just get through the first couple weeks.
>>74223399At least once a week I would eat like this for years. Usually on Saturday night I’d buy lots of food to eat after drinking 12 beers and smoking lots of weed. Sometimes I’d do it again on Sunday. I peaked around the time I started eating entire cakes from Walmart with my meals.
>>74224771Jesus h christ, and here I thought I was bad when I was fat.
Nothing sucks more than lifting at the gym while on a deficit.>still fat>still stuck under 2pl8 bench>can’t gain muscle because I don’t have more calories>if I eat more calories I gain more weightI cant win
>>74224818How long have you been lifting? If its been less than a year, you can actually add lean mass even on a deficit, as long as you get enough protein, train hard enough, progressively overload, etc. Not as much as if you were eating at maintenance or a surplus, of course, but its not nothing.
>-1(one)lb from yesterdayWith the drops I’ve had this week being so consistent, another plateau must be right around the corner.
>>74224818You're not at the gym to do anything but maintain load so you lose more fat than muscle.The gym isn't for busting your ass. Stop letting the pindicks teach you that.
>>74224860If you're not calculating a moving average of your weight with a proper trendline, you're not keeping track of your weight. You're emotionally committed to a stupid fucking number. The amount of water coursing through your pisslicker every day is statistically outweighing any insight you can get from a daily number.Sum and average or get the FUCK out of the thread.
>>74224771you people make me feel less fat by comparison sometimes
>>74224771Before I cared about my weight I honestly wanted to eat like this but couldn't bring myself to cross certain lines. How do you come to terms with eating a whole ass cake even if you don't care about your health?
>>74224874this, my mother weighs herself like 10 times aday for like a year+ now. it's hopeless because it's not like she's taking any effort to lose weight
>>74224902fuck knowsmy roommate ate 2 pizzas and drank nearly a whole bottle of coke.aside from the fact that pizza tastes like bland sawdust, i don't know how he can eat that way. He's actyally been fatter than he is now, and he has lost some weight in the past sometime, so he's throwing it all awya
>>74224874You have autism. Keep your emotional outbursts to yourself
wife is pregnant and I've started to gain some sympathy weight, but don't want to ever have a dad bod. I'm starting 16/8 fasting today, is that enough?
>>74224921It's an old photo. Bro is on the righteous path now
>>74224874I love my stupid fucking daily number. Keeps me focused on my goals.I am also keeping a weekly average and average of each week, before you sperg out.
>>74224874Anon I am 1.4lbs away from 50lbs lost since the start of March. I am going to continue doing exactly what I am doing. You are emotionally committed to a line on a pointless app.
>>74224874I calculate both trends and (almost) daily weights. I do better if I measure every day because it keeps my eyes on the goal daily.
>>74224953The people in this thread are so embarassing and childlike sometimes (including you but not right now). Keep up the good work
>>74224902>How do you come to terms with eating a whole ass cake even if you don't care about your health?by being drunk and high and just wanting to keep chasing the “feel good in the moment” dragon. Eating this much food every weekend while watching YouTube just became ritual to me. I would look forward to it all day while I was at work and spend the whole day going back in forth in my head with stuff like “should I get 2 pizzas? Or maybe 1 pizza and 24 boneless wings? Or maybe I should just get $40 of Taco Bell”
>>74225001I feel that. I always used food as a reward and coping mechanism for myself, which wasn't easy to unlearn and I think I'm only succeeding more now because I'm generally in a better place in life.
>>74225001>DOOD WEED AND BEER!! xD>Hmm what slop should I shove in my mouth today?That’s pathetic. Imagine letting food control your life as bad as this fag.Hell I don’t even want to talk shit anymore, it’s just depressing.One life and one body on this earth and this is what you choose to do with it.What a waste of life.
Ok bros, stupid fucking question but what do we mix protein powder with? I've been mixing it with water this whole time but I've seen posts recommending milk. Would I mix it with milk to bulk or is that a meme?
>>74225051If you do milk, get the zero fat kind. I used to do that but I just didn’t want to deal with the extra calories. Just go for water
>>74223937Another day, another three hours on the treadmill. Another tin of fish and bag of salad
>>74225051I mix mine with water and 1/4th of a scoop of ground oats as a meal replacement while on a cut. Keeps it under 200 calories and gives me some fiber/carbs for my second 90 min walk
If you aren't autistically tracking your weight every single day apply yourself. Yes I didn't track every single day either, I had some fuck ups
>>74225042I feel no desire to go back to that lifestyle at all. I don’t smoke or drink at all anymore and it helps a lot. >>74225047you lost
>>74225063>3 hoursI fucking kneel. I can't stand more than a half hour on the treadmill, it kills my zoomer constant stimulation fried brain
>>74225096On the bright side, you got a lot of great photos to trigger idiots in /fat/ who don't know how to read.
>>74225001You spam the same images in thread. Kys you fat tranny
>>74225115Do you not have yours in front of a tv? I can easily walk around my house outside for hours at a time with nothing but podcasts to listen to and I consider myself pretty ADD
>>74225133>>74225134Case in point
>>74225133True, I have lots of ammo>>74225134In thread?
>>74225135It's either in my apartment which has cringe CNN or some gay shit playing on the screen and not much room for my phone unless I want to destroy my neck looking down at it, or at the gym where the screen ALWAYS has cnn/fox news shit and you can't change the channel so it's lose lose. I need to get a walking treadmill so I can watch YouTube or whatever at home.
Is this going to be an other thread where the german fasting tranny fights with the dumb redneck
>>74225192Fight to the death? Hopefully
>>74225195one eats 500 calories of slop a day and the other drank water for 3 months not sure if either has the strength
>>74225165Bro you don’t have YouTube on your tv? I thought even the really cheap ones have built in apps nowadays. >>74225192Can’t be her, she doesn’t know how to reply to people
>>74225152>>74225227The food you post makes me want to puke.Please continue.
>>74225304You must like really gross stuff if this doesn’t make your mouth water
>>74224771Jeez I'm now glad I never got this bad.. but also impressive competitive eating ability
Redneck virgin tranny ruining another thread with his disgusting pictures
>>74225409Every damn thread with this fat retard, desu. So sick of looking at this guy. Thankfully he's on death's door (meme diet)
>>74225409>>74225416You asked for this(literally this time)
The redneck is consistently producing the best content in this general
>>74225227I do have youtube on my TV, I don't have a treadmill in my apartment. The only ones I have are the apartment exercise room and my actual gym and neither one are optimal if you aren't an npc watching the (((noos))) all the time
>>74225051>>74225060It tastes way better with milk. If you are on a cut, use 2% or skim. If you are bulking, use whole milk.If you are using it as a meal replacement like >>74225074 make sure you use casein and not whey protein powder. Whey is digested and absorbed really quickly (maybe 1-2 hours), so its good to take right before or during a work out. Casein digests and is absorbed much slower (up to ~6 hours or so), so it works much better as a meal replacement.
>>74225521Based. I mean who else does stuff like this for their generals?https://vocaroo.com/1mzVUAmcXTyX
>>74225051Unironically onions milk tastes great and is low calorie and higher protein that skim milk. I am building bitch tits as we speak
>>74225551Just go schizo mode and pace around your room while watching YouTube, walking is walking
>>74225581I am jack Torrance
>>74225569I grew up drinking s o y milk because my mom thought it was a more nutritious alternative to orange juice.I also had to get gyno surgery at 18 due.
>>74225613It's so over. Back to skim milk it is then
>>74223937>August 2023>205>May 2024>180Feeling good brehs. Im pretty short so i think i need to be like 165 desu but feeling good. Been fat my entire life since middle school.
>>74221874 #>Kisses, probably between 30-100 calories>Pizza, 600-800 calories>Wings, 600-800 calories>Small fry, 100-200 calories>Soda, 200 or so calories>Donuts, 800-1000 calories>Wine and gin is probably a couple hundred calories as wellJesus Christ anon, you probably ate close to 3000 calories in one day. At least you know you dun goofed.
>It's another "headache after 2 days of fasting" kind of dayNot going to eat til friday
>>74225916Depending on how much of a fatass he is and activity level, that might just be eating to maintenance (which is still a fuckup).
>>74225931I had that the first couple of times I fasted too. Must be normal
>tfw saw my naked upper body in the fitting room 3-way mirror
why do some people with seemingly less fat than me have stomach rolls but i dont ? just pure genetics on where fat goes/
I'm emotionally drained after being on a 600kCal deficit the past 8 days. Feels like I've been working 16 hours a day.
>>74226247i was on a 1200kcal deficit for like 9 months bro. you get used to it
>it's being said again and again to NOT put yourself under extreme deficit or fasting to avoid feeling like shit thus associating dieting with feeling like shit>/fat/ does it anywayStop wanting fast results retards. Just maintain a SLIGHT deficit and walk a lot for a couple of years. It will actually work and you won't destroy your mood and energy levels. >but muh summerDo it for summer 2026 but do it right
>>74226281How is a 600kCal deficit with a TDEE of 2800 excessive?
>>74226281I feel fine
>>74223937How am I looking? I am very self conscious about my spare tire and titties. Currently at 5'8 141lbs. I was 136lbs up until recently, but have decided to shift focus on gaining mass. I just hate this stomach pouch area, makes me feel very self conscious
>>74226304You're not fat, you're average. Go lift
>>74226304>stomach pouch>tittiesI don't really notice what you are talking about, I think you are fine, dude.
>>74226292If you're "emotionally drained" and feel like "you've been working 16 hours a day" it's very clear it's excessive. You should feel ever so slightly hungry in the beginning (and it'll pass btw). You should feel good overall.
>>74226304If these are considered titties I’m absolutely FINISHED
>>74226304>how am I looking?like shit. No offense.
>>74226320Its just a flattering angle, my gut and tits stick out. I will try and take a side pic
>>74226304You look normal.
>>74226346Fuck off fishing for confidence in /fat/, this is for people who are actually fatties, not dyels
>>74226346Alright so you can clearly see love handles, pouch and tits. I have been as low as 133lbs and I still have them
If you dont have lovehandles that stikc out you arent fat
5 days ago I weighed myself at 104 kg.I decided that I really needed to lose weight.This morning I weighed 101.3 kg.By my estimations I should've lost at most 300-400g of fat (about 500-600 kcal deficit). Is the rest just water weight and shit?
>>74226364this is either bait or you have severe BDD (although who doesn't on /fit/)
>>74226361Im genuinely wondering if these are fat pockets that will never look normal or if im just being impatient. No need to get pissy
>>74226364sorry to be frank anon but you are retarded
>>74226304>shift focus on gaining massBad decision. Get lean and stay lean. Gain weight slowly by maintaining high _lean_ protein diet. Never "bulk".
>>74226380Im just upping my protein intake with extra meat in my diet and I try to remember to have a protein shake a day
>>74226364if those are big love handles, im a donkey
In a way I'm kind of proud of my dumbass body. It's picked 239 as the hill to die on and has been holding out refusing to go down for almost 2 weeks now with 1000 cal deficit, starting adderall again after 2 years, an starting to go for 5 mile walks again. I will remember its futile struggle fondly and honor it in future days.
>>74226281Maintaining a deficit is harder than prohibiting food. I have to count, I count wrong, I make bad guesses and bad compromises, and even when I'm only slightly under I'm still starving.I AM LESS HUNGRY WHEN I EAT NOTHING.
>>74226304You are doing better than 97% of us here anon. You could literally stop now and maintain and you'd be just fine.
>>74226304>>74226364you are lowkey kinda hot
>>74226398Just be careful anon. Accidentally wrecking your metabolism and creating a hormonal imbalance or gut issues is dangerous long-term. Sudden changes in diet can do that.
>>74226281>rare anon without an eating disorder in /fat/Novel.
>>74226364Did you come here just to make the rest of us feel like shit? You are in great shape dude
>>74226445I get that it doesnt picture well, but Im telling you, I have tits and a really unsightly gut. But im just gonna fuck off. Thanks for the kind words
>>74225445>buying bottled waterBruh>>74226364You have no love handles bro. I am estimating I'm like 13 percent bodyfat and I STILL have bigger love handles than you lol
>>74226440I'm just old and did it all, turns out you just gotta eat normal and don't get too extreme with either diet or exercise. It sounds boring thus not quite as appealing to someone who doesn't have patience. Just don't harm your body too much and it basically maintains itself, you don't have to think about it. Healthy diets existed for hundreds of years, they're basically always balanced and boring as fuck.
>>74226466Can I see?
>>74226364Is this what male body dysmorphia looks and sounds like?
>>74226482Might be underestimating my bodyfat but that's what the 3 site skin fold tells me. I need to eat more but I'm at the tail end of a cut now, maybe 5 more pounds I'm thinking
>>74226524>3 site skin foldWhat is that? What was your highest weight and what is your current weight and height? I think you have a similar thing going on to me where you used to be fat, and despite being a normal weight now, you have some lingering evidence of being a former fat. Inb4 everyone dogs on you for not being fat enough for the fat threadI think you could focus completely on gaining mass like I am. I think in both our cases, we need more muscle to pad out our figures
>>74226555Yeah. I was like 255 lbs at the highest (6'2")Was losing (really quick hard calorie deficit, was eating like 1000 calories a day) and in January was at 170, started going to the gym and bulked to 188ish and now am slow cutting, I'm at 175 now. This photo is from December and I'm around the same weight but definitely more muscle less fat
>>74226524>>74226590Fuck you i wish i could look this good after my weight loss, stop bitching faggot
>>74226590Yeah similar thing going on. It looks like whatever youre doing is working for you, keep it up. If you wanted to focus more on strength that would be a good idea imo
>>74226398It is literally the easiet thing in the world if you just eat the same things
>>74226673I do, I just went from 0 muscle can barely do a pushup to being able to do sets of weighted chinups, I'm just stalled currently because at a deficit for most big lifts I'm just not able to linearly increase so I am in a holding pattern of going up 15 lbs on most lifts and then deloading, then working my way back up. Been that way for a month and a half.
>>74226695Right but youre at a defecit. Im saying dont do that
>fucked up and forgot to reduce the sodium high onions sauce in my beef and broccoli stir fry>eh I'll drink some extra water and I'll be fine>literally pissing out of my asshole at this very momentwhat the fuck what the fuck what the fuck
>>74226788sodium high onions sauce*why the fuck is this keyboard autocorrect so retarded
>>74226788>>74226794sodium high onions sauce
>>74226794ah fuck nvm I'm the retard
That was embarrassing.
>>74224962You're a fucking idiot. The trend is calculated FROM the daily weight. You don't do better if you measure every day, you don't do ANYTHING if you don't measure every fucking day, because that's the data for the FUCKING TREND.
>>74224953Keep it up lad.
>>74224962>varying numbers of decimal places come on bro, if you're keeping daily data at least tidy that shit up and have it formatted consistently to 1 or 2.No one needs to know 7 decimals of your BMI
I weigh myself 1 time a week because i'm not an autistic retard
>>74226976I dont weigh myself, i go by the notches on my belt
>>74226364thats fine keep going.permant adiopose tissue reconstitution is a long journey.green tea and fasting brother.maybe start doing laps in the pool
>>74226976You're on 4chan my guy
>>74226983Me too
>88kg>tshirt and shorts weather is already hereits so over
>>74227121>140kgYou don't even know my pain...........
Had a really shitty day yesterday. Feasted on cheese buns, donuts and ramen Today I tried making up for it with a big walk (12,000 steps), the gym this morning and less than 1500 cals planned out. Still got lots of regret but I’m glad I’ve had a good day so far.I almost started a 48 hour fast but I’m worried it’ll lead to another binge. Still a win. Hope you guys are hanging in there better than I am
Reached my goal weight but I'm afraid to stop. I don't want to go into maintenance just yet but I don't know why.
>>74227195Fasting does lead to binges, that's why it's a meme. CICO kings don't have that issue
>>74227211I’ve never binged even once from fasting, you just are a willpowerlet
Is there a limit to how long I can fast? A bunch of people say you HAVE TO eat after a certain amount of time, but I don't get why. If I'm drinking a bunch of water, sugar free energy drinks, diet soda, and maybe some beef/chicken broth for sodium, do I have to break a multi-day fast? I'm a fat fuck so I don't have to worry about running out of resources for my body to pull calories from. My intention is to eat once every 3 or so days and that meal would be something like >1lb ground turkey with taco seasoning>8x eggs cooked over easy on top>black pepper>maybe a couple slices of breadthen back to fasting. I mentioned going beyond 24 hours of fasting and I've had some people react like I recommended cutting off a leg to lose weight.pic unrelated, random from my fph folder
>>74227211>>74227227I used to do multiple rolls of 48 hours and I’m such a bad binge eater that even though I could do it, in the end it was meaningless I really miss how quickly I could lose weight from it, but I’m so mentally fucked up with food that it’s just not worth it. I like CICO because I don’t sit and hyperfocus on being hungry Wish I had willpower like some of you guys sometimes though
>>74227233I don’t even know what fascist means. God I hate politics and Twitter. Can you even drink diet soda during a fast? When I beat my record recently and hit 48 hours I drank nothing but water the whole time because I thought diet soda would break it
>>74227205Don’t stop anon, take it from me. I’ve reached my goal weight twice now after five years but yo-yo back up 50+ lbs because I didn’t learn anything. It’s a lifestyle change. Stay healthy and stay consistent. It’s ok to be tired but not ok to stop. Don’t hate yourself later like I do
>>74227233Ultimately it is up to you but yeah you could die from fasting too long. It is a stress on your body after all. The idea that it is totally safe like some people here believe is delusional, nothing is completely safe.
SW (March 2024): 364lbs (165.1kg) CW: 329lbs (149.23kg)This shit fucking sucks. Get me the fuck out of the 300s I hate it here.
>>74227261Sodas have zero calories and they don’t break a fast I don’t think. It depends on how strict you want to be, some people “cheat” with tea, coffee or broth since they have calories, but it helps them go longer without technically eating Diet pop obviously isn’t good for you, but if it’s what you need to lose weight maybe it’s a good choice.
>>74227233why do you people do this to yourselves?
>>74227269You are making good progress anon, enjoy it.
>>74227278Diet sodas don't have zero calories, they have sub 5 so goy companies can lie and claim they're zero.
>>74227269You’ve lost the amount of weight I need to reach my goal anon, that’s amazing. Since you’re so big it’ll be gone in no time. Keep it up, that’s an intense amount of weight lost already
>>74227287Is this true? Would like to know more. I always thought they were legally liable for the nutritional information on the label
>>74227261>can you drink diet sodaI don't see why not. It's no sugar and even the absolute worst soda is 5 calories or less per can. The end goal of a fast is to deprive yourself of calories so your body has to resort to eating itself essentially. I don't think a couple calories worth of sodas would suddenly bring your weight loss to a screeching halt>>74227266yeah I'm aware it has its risks, but it is possible to just go for 2 to 3 days without fault then. I don't intend to be stupid about it. If i feel faint, dizzy, off balance, etc, I'll just make sure to eat something>>74227280I need to do this to lose the most amount of weight possible because I've absolutely fist fucked my life being this obese for this long. I'm actively incapable of working the job I want for as long as I want because my body is literally falling apart. I know I can't unfuck nearly a decade of bad decisions in a couple of months, but I need some short term gains NOW.
>>74227269That's what, two more months of progress to get below 300?Just keep doing what you're doing, time will pass anyway
>>74227280It’s for autistic impatient people like me. I don’t fast anymore but seeing yourself lose 2 pounds in two days feels great. It’s much less rewarding seeing the scale fluctuate up and down over the course of a week while you cross your fingers hoping to lose a pound each time
>>74227287Yeah, see that’s exactly what I was thinking too. I didn’t realize until recently that companies can say “zero” calories on labels as long as it’s sub 5 calories. It’s dumb
>>74227287>>74227295>>74227305"zero calories" means sub 5 calories yes. But for the sake of argument let's say each can of diet soda was even 10 calories. That still means I can drinks 20 cans of the shit if I really wanted to any be in an extreme deficit if I'm not eating anything else anyways. CICO still rules here. Compared to nearly 200 calories per can of fully sugar laden soda.>inb4 just drink water lmaoWhen you're taking in NOTHING else, flavor that doesn't fuck up your diet is welcome.
>>74227312Oh yeah I completely agree, I just wasn’t sure if it broke the rules of ketosis or something. Maybe next time I fast I’ll have a diet soda so it’s not as miserable
>last can of diet soda until tomorrowallah may have to intervene
>>74227261It's unique per person because it's about an insulin response. If your body triggers an insulin response because it thinks artificial sweetener is real sugar (glucose) and it spikes your blood sugar, then it might fuck with your fast. If your blood sugar doesn't spike from artificial sweetener, then you're chillin'.You can buy tests that measure your glucose by pricking your finger for blood that diabetics use if you actually wanted to know for sure. Otherwise, I would just drink diet soda during a fast and if you still lose weight at the same pace you do with just water, then you're good to go.I'm also on 4chan so I'm closer to a retard than I am a doctor so y'know...believe whatever.
if I sit or bend down, and get up quickly like i always do, I get dizzy. Am I dying? I am no longer out of breath tho its a good thing
>>74225051Just started using protein powder, but I use milk. It's great.
>>74227352 diabetic people would have issues with artificial sweeteners if this was the case
I get /fit/ for her...
>>74227498Is this a character from Yukaza?
>>74221692>>74221637Update to my posts here:Weighed in today, and went from 239.2 to 244.2, up 5 lbs in one day lmaoToday I only had a bowl of beef stew and a cheese danish. Tomorrow I'll only have another bowl of beef stew, and the day after too. Once the stew is all gone, I'm starting a solid 5 day fast and let's see how quickly I get back down to below 238. I bet by Monday I hit it.
is it possible to maintain or even gain muscle mass while losing weight? or should I just lose weight first then build muscle?I've been doing weightlifting for 3 years and I like my progress but I also want to lose like 90lbs
>check my Instagram>friend(girl(female)) sent some reel spam a few days back after we hung out a bit last week>reply then send one back>instant reply>"when will I see you again?">ignore the question make small talk>she goes back to it again>start deflecting more make half plans then say goodbyemy friends say she likes me but I swear I'm too pussy to find out if it's true or not, I think after getting my body right getting over fear of rejection/failure needs to be next. Id appreciate any advice if you got it. >>74227506yes, in the best one yakuza 0.
>238 on friday>250 on monday>240 todayBloat and water weight is crazy. I'm still not eating until friday.
What is THE fastest way to lose weight? Is starving yourself while doing regular cardio viable?
>>74227672She likes you, dude. Just give it a shot, unless you don't like her or don't find her attractive, then that's different. At the very least, make plans and go out with her, see how things go.
This is gonna be SO fucking delicious holy shit
>>74227693liposuction or amputation
Is it possible to lose weight or gain muscle with intermittent exercise? Im talking like doing a small 5 minute workout every hour on the hour 8 times a day VS a singular 40 minute workout one time. I know its not as effective as a single workout but curious to know what I am losing or gaining from trying something like this.
>>74227672Hey retard open your fucking instagram right now and ask that girl to hang out this Saturday.Just pick a place you both might like, like a pinball arcade or some shit
How do I air-pop popcorn on the stove? I know how you do it with some oil, but not without. Or do I just spend 20 bucks on a popper?
>>74227774You buy pic related and throw that shit in the microwave for a minute and 45 seconds dude
>microwaving your hard drivescreep
>>74227811I don't want butter, that's the point. I'd rather eat it plain or with chili powder.
>>74227830Ah I see. Chili powder is pretty based, I usually just put hot sauce on mine but it’s kinda messy
Binged and ate like 3k cals today. We're never losing the last 5kg at this rate..
I've made myself fat with depression. I had some physical injuries at the height of my bulk (back when I was fit) and things spiralled out of control, several years of depression and I'm a chubby fuck. I want to get rid of this ASAP. I have 0 appetite due to meds but I'm still lazy and it's hard to get prepping decent food. I can lift and do sports and all of that is fine, even diet is/will be fine but I just don't want it to take a year to get cut down enough and start bulking again. What can I do to speed this shit up? Lipo, nah, DNP, maybe after summer? Not a stranger to it but I vowed never again... not sure what else, ozempic and that sorta crap sure but I already don't have an appetite so what's the point + sides. I go to the gym and do MMA training already, I just need to be more consistent with food but 0.5-1kg a week is still "slow". I know it's not but fuck it if I can increase it without ending with a shitton of loose skin. I am not super fat, I'm around 105 kg at 185cm
>>74227891Haven’t you posted this like 3 times now or am I going mad?
>>74227920I have, when I come back and see one or two threads have gone by, still need advice hah
>>74227929List your weight and height in American units and maybe I’ll actually help you
>>74227929>>74227891What can you do to speed it up? .5 to 1 kg is fine. You just need patience. If you seriously want to speed it up, the only way to lose faster is follow the rules of cico. Restrict calories more
>>74227677Eyyyy you're the guy I originally replied to in the last thread. I bet I could fast off 10 lbs in 2 days too. Used to do it all the time back in 2018 when I first got into snake juice fasting. Feels good.
>>74227677Bro how the fuck did you possibly gain 12 pounds in one weekend and then somehow lose most of it in 2 days?
>>74228058Water weight is a joke.>load up on tons of carbs and drink the fuck out of water>spend the next 2 days dry fastingThere that's how.
Alright boys. I've had a 2 week break at maintenance. Gone up 1kg. I think it's just restored glucose and I'm full of water. Back to the grind until I hit 99kg.
>>74227977230lbs 6'1">>74228002I guess, I'm just always looking for something more, with all the peptides and shit lately idk, DNP was a miracle but too dangerous even at a low doses.
>>74228075>spend the next 2 days dry fasting>2 days without waterJesus man why not just NOT pig out so hard? That sounds awful
>>74228139How are you over 6 feet tall and “depressed”? Fuck off normalfag
Only 50 lbs to go until I am optimal weight. I refuse to give up
>>74228155Suicide "survivor" as well :')
>>74228149That wasn't me but I'm water fasting anyways.
>>74227697>>74227773she messaged me again, we kept talking and she was like she was gonna tell this other friend of ours(more hers) that I'm going to his pre-game this weekend as her date, so I might be in bros... not gonna get my hopes up but wish me luck kek.
>>74228075why not just eat normally? you're supposed to be learning habits for when you're at your goalweight not taking shortcuts so you can keep being a pig man>>74228170based you better not, how much have you lost so far?
>>74228289Started at 275 lbs last february
>>74228289Eating "normally" hurts. Constant hunger. I'm fasting so my stomach shrinks. Taking advantage of the fact that you stop feeling hungry after a day without food.
>>74228347your stomach "shrinks" if you eat smaller portions, for me smaller portions felt more filling about 2 weeks in. you just shrink it then stretch it out again like boogie.
>>74228289That's sad. She looked better before.
is the ratio of fat and muscle lost a constant no matter how big your deficit is or will smaller deficits burn more fat than muscle?
>>74228139You might get benefit from MIC injections. Supposedly they help with energy during hard cuts. I am doing it but havent had a perceivable benefit. If you want something to play around with MIC injections or Lipo-C (same thing as MIC injections but extra stuff) might be something you like
It's fucking happening ladsI'm currently mid-wooshVery good chance I'm gonna be down 3 pounds tomorrow morning compared to this morning
>>74228449Eat enough protein and do weight lifting if you don't want to lose muscle
I've been stalled for 2 weeks. hopefully I'll finish better
>>74228274You better grow some balls bro. She wants you bad
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO292.600 calories lost, from obese class two to normal BMI
>>74228752It took you 5 months to burn 292 calories? wtf are you saying anon
>>74228769>100 days = 5 monthsAnon...
>>74227774I’ve never tried it on the stove, but you can make it in the microwave in just a brown paper bag. They make special little bowls for it too. I like nutritional yeast and chili powder. Not a vegan I just think it tastes good
>>74228787>trying to change the subjectNo really wtf are you saying?
>>74228831That water fasting is based and fitpilled.Nobody is changing subjects, I'm making fun of you for intentionally misreading my post
>>74228812Thanks, the store was out of those silicone poppers so I had to buy one online, but I'm sure I'll get use out of it.
>>74228842>doubling downSo you’ve actually lost 292 calories in 5 months then. Congrats champ, you’ll be skinny in another 70 years maybe
>>74228752>periods instead of commasEuro? Japanese tend to cluster the digits differently, it'd be like 29.2600Still 83 fucking pounds, rad job m8
>>74228914You have the brain of an African>>74228930Yeah, Euro. Thanks m8
Thats kinda cringe bro what sort of faggot were you trying to pull by posting calories instead of pounds or something
>>74228953He makes no sense whatsoever 292.600 is 292.6 which I burn by existing for a few hours. He’s not American so go figure he’s dumb
>>74228953>>74229004Zesty lads! Now kiss
>>74229004According to posts here, one pound of fat has 3,500 calories. It said "292.600 calories lost," so I assume that the . was used instead of a comma because he is trying to be a brainy retard. 292,000 / 3500 is 83
>>74229028How is that brainy? If he had used the correct punctuation I would have known what he meant
>>74229028euros use period b/c theyre gay
>>74221874 Day 11) 3oz of scrapple2) 2x scrambled eggs3) 1x protein shake: 1cup 30cal almond milk, 1 scoop of Gold Standard Whey Protein (Chocolate!), 1x banana4) 1 portion of stir fry: chicken, red pepper, brocc, onion, carrot, onions sauce5) 1 cup of basmati rice6) 2x glasses of wine (Cabernet)7) 2tbsp of honey8) 10oz of sprite (had half a bottle lying around from yesterday...)9) 1x bottle of beer (Shiner Bock)
>>74223971I put 2 sugars in my preworkout coffee. Probably should start tapering that down if im gonna lose this weight
>>74229192What is the point of having 1 beer? I have never drank beer unless I was having at least six. It all tastes like piss so why would you have one beer over a better tasting drink? It’s not like you’ll feel anything from one. I’ve just never understood the whole “I’ll have a(one) beer” people. What’s the point?
>>74223977Dieting and pooping is a dark art. Finally trained myself not to slop and cook for myself yet trying to poopmaxx is the only thing that keeps derailing my weightloss.
>>74224034Thanks for this tip. 3 days is usually as long as ill put up with before I start blasting water up my anoos to get them nuggets out. Ive let things go too long before and the pain and damage is not worth it
>>74229222Surely those 40 calories are going to make the difference.
>>74228752Are you saying you lost 2926 calories per day?Did you like eat almost nothing and then went for 4+ hour bike rides every day?
>>74229234Magnesium citrate. Majority of people are deficient in it anyway
>>74225051Greek yogurt in the bottom, add 1 scoop protons, top off with water and shake
>>74228842Water fasting is gay and reboundpilled
Imagine operating in extremes so much you become obese and instead of learning temperance and moderation, you oscillate to the other extreme and fast. Why are retards like this
>>74226227I was lucky I was hard fat snd not soft fat. I continually am surprised at how my body looks after losing >100lbs. Not perfect but notbad.jpg either
>>74229273Thanks. Going to look into these fiber gummies too.
>>74229288>loses 1 pound a week>spends a shit ton on groceries>doesn’t learn the art of willpowerNah I’m gonna keep fasting
>>74229279>lose 30 pounds in a month>rebound 10 pounds>still lost 20 pounds in a monthFasting is still king
>>74229326>>74229327>two fastGODS btfoing anon in the same second
>>74229223I had some wine as well. but having just a single beer is great. you are saying lots of opinions
>>74229337Wine at least sometimes tastes good and is apparently good for you in small doses, but you did not answer my question whatsoever.
>>74229223nta, but I don't really drink much, so when I do 1 beer will usually give me a pleasant buzz
>>74228943What are you going to eat as your first meal in months?
>>74229256>40 calories a day >40 * 7 = 280 calories a week>40 * 30 = 1,200 calories a monthEvery little bit helps, man
>>74227556>5 day fastjfc fastards are retarded
>>74229288It’s just another form of disordered eating
>>74229540Cope democrat, there’s people here that do it for far longer than that
>>74229288Bulking and cutting in extremes is the only way to look like you lift as a natty. Not everyone here's goal is to just be skinny.
>>74229288I tried fasting, about 3 days each. The first one I was dreaming about pizza, burgers, ice cream, mozz sticks, all that crap. The second one after eating clean for a couple weeks I was dreaming about nothing but a nice steak, potato and salty/lemony sauteed kale. I think there’s merit to it but overall we’re all here because of a bad relationship with food, the extreme moves are probably not a good idea long term. But I believe a few day fast here and there doesn’t hurt once you get control of yourself.
Bros can I trust Chipotle calorie counts or is it really gonna come down to whether or not the worker scoops the right portions?
>>74229756The latter I would assume. Never been to that place
>>74229646>binge >fast for 5 days>binge>fast for 5 days>binge
>>74229819Who’s binging? Are there bingers in the room with us right now?
>>74227705What am i looking at here? Plate of roast chicken? Looks nice and moist. Would eat
>>74229865Yessir it was a rotisserie chicken from Walmart with Gordo’s cheese sauce, red pepper flakes and hot sauce on it. Very delicious
Been a pretty comfy thread. Even the one anon who used to annoy me i now envy his pretty chill lifestyle and pics. Wish I could enjoy doing things again.
>>74229693Do you notice any digestion upsides or downsides after/during fast?
>>74229880Stockholm syndrome
>>74229192Wish my days were this simple to track. I use too many ingredients for everything.
was gifted a bottle of vodka, what's the best way to use it?
>>74230015I would recommend drinking it
>>74230024on an empty or full stomach? I'm thinking full so I don't get much reward out of it
>>74230038Reward? I don’t really know what you’re talking about. Do you have a bad history with drinking?
>>74230038Bartender here, do NOT drink wodka on an empty stomach dude.
>redneck tranny spamming the same images again>Then calls himself based Pathetic
>>74230053Its what I would always do to save money + calories before I started dieting and getting serious about productivity
>>74230051No, I just avoid it for productivity reasons because it fucks with sleep and dopamine
>>74230069No clue what you are even referring to, take these
How are we cooking our ground beef/chicken? Making patties or just cooking it up in a pan? Do you mix in anything to fill it out with minimal cals?
>>74229891First fast I bet wrong on a fart. Second fast no real issues. I’ve done a few 36’s since then and also no issues- might just be learning that fart lesson though. Digestion while eating even before like a fatass has always been fine and regular.
What age do you find it socially acceptable to be fat. Like if I see a young person who is fat (including myself) I am disgusted. But, as long as they aren't morbidly obese, I don't feel the same way if I see someone older than like 45-50 that is fat
>>74230216Depends on the weekly meal prep. Look up a recipe for carne molida. It’s basically a real food version of taco bell meat. Char some tomatoes and peppers, blend with spices then add to cooked ground beef and simmer until it’s thick. Get a decent nonstick pan and you barely need oil for the meat. The simmering also helps tenderize lean beef. Works great for a taco bowl. I also do a weird greekish thing with ground turkey, rice, sun dried tomatoes, wilted spinach, red onion and feta. Ground meat is great if you enjoy nice messy plates.
>>74230247It is never acceptable. There is zero excuse to ever be fat.
>>74230107Does this actually increase size load or is it a huge meme?
>>74223937Fuck your nigger ass 4 month ass weight loss journey I'm getting stronger than your or your buttboys will in 2 years in 6 months.
>>74230681Anything the virgin redneck does is automatically wrong.
>>74230689Literally what did your schizo ass mean by this?
Bros... I need some encouragement. Tell me I'll be able to lose the weight and get an aesthetic physique. Tell me I'll be able to get a girlfriend. Tell me she'll be into ass eating (receiving not giving)
>>74230713This post alone is enough to give me 100% confidence that you woll not only not make it in fitness, but in anything at all.
>>74230713>Bros... I need some encouragement.I was gonna give you some but then it turned out that you are a degenerate>Tell me I'll be able to lose the weight and get an aesthetic physique. Nope you will stay fat forever>Tell me I'll be able to get a girlfriend. Nope incel forever im afraid>Tell me she'll be into ass eating (receiving not giving)Yes she will be into ass eating, but only with (insert racial group that you hate)
40.5lbs in less than 2 months, starting to see loose skin on my arms though. Looks like I'll be a different unfuckable monster but at least surgery will be an option.I'm not getting blackpilled by it, I've yet to start putting on any sort of lean mass so that'll help long term.
>>74230756That's incredible, anon. What's your routine? How many cals a day? Exercise?
>>74230770Just cardio on my stationary bike on days where I'm more sedentary as I work retail (cashier) but have been given a more active role with covering supervisors etc so I'm getting in 13k+ steps a day just a work at least twice a week.Been averaging about 1800cals a day as my tdee is reasonably high because I'm super overweight (started at 360lbs this time). Blows my mind how easy and not stressful this has been. Starting the gym with a friend on Monday as I need to fill out my frame a bit as I can see some potential in my manlet body (still have noticable front delts and slight tricep separation even at 319lbs). Definitely feel like I'll make it this time and I'll 100% shoot my shot at the rugby cutie who keeps complimenting my hair and shit when I feel more confident.
>>74230801>Blows my mind how easy and not stressful this has been.I can relate! This is the greatest life hack of all time. Most shit in life isn't as difficult as we think it is. Go out there and get after it, I believe in you!
>>74230756honestly bro if you're on this website at all you're probably unfuckable to begin with so just focus on your health and don't worry about the looks
>>74230853I came here because it's the only place I can whine about being lonely and call someone a stupid nigger faggot. Sometimes this place is like a men's health circle where we call each other schizos and incels on occasion.
Is there a correlation between being fat and mental illnes?Because holy shit I feel so good since I've lost weight.
>>74231099>it's the only place I can whine about being lonely and call someone a stupid nigger faggot.Yeah, Internet in the year 2024 is completely sanitized corporate mess. Sites like 4chan are dissapearing and will probably never come back, better enjoy it while you can. Soon only places are fucking reddit and facebook and whatever the fuck. Welcome to hecking wholesome we did it leddit future of the internet coming soon.
>>74223937I'm gonna go fucking insanewhy the fuck is my maintenance 1600kcal? holy shit I can't take it. I actually tracked my intake for a month and the numbers don't lie. 1 medium sized meal + 2 shakes is enough to put me over 1300 and I still feel hungry.
>>74231178>plus 2 shakesHave you tried not eating like shit?
>>74231197I meant protein shakes, I'm barely hitting my macros without it.
>>74231178>Eat only slop>feel like shitGee I wonder why you fucking retard
>>74231200Protein shakes are for bulking, you shouldnt be having shakes if you are losing weight you stupid fattie. Eat more chicken or other protein to get protein, that will help with the hunger.
>>74231208>>74231203Nigger I'm 70kg, 16%body fat unlike you land whales. I've been eating nothing but 1 airfried chicken breast, half cup quinoa/ lean smoked ground beef/ roasted potatos for almost 2 months now faggots. 1 meal is barely enough to put me over 800cal and 50g of protein so I need another 30-40g or so, protein shakes gives me the least amount of calories per protein dumb shits, also I'm a human being, I need to eat something(i.e pasta/bacon) different else I'll lose my sanity every couple of weeks, even then I never go over 2200kcal.
>>74231230Kys you skinny tranny faggot.
>>74231230Then what the fuck do you want?Most fatties ITT are either fasting or doing crash diets at 1000kcal or less. You have less calorie needs than most here and complain more than them, you are a faggot.
>>74231230>1 meal is barely enough to put me over 800cal and 50g of protein so I need another 30-40g or soSo eat another meal of 800cal that provides you another 50g of protein and also solves your hunger? Are you legitimately retarded?
>>74231238That's the problem, 1 meal is enough to put me over half my tdee and I feel hungry as fuck. I'm trying to cut and it's impossibly hard.
>>74231243No anon you dont understand he HAS to get that extra 40g via shakes, there is no viable alternative
>>74231244Stupid tranny faggot
>>74231244Why the fuck are you trying to hit macros while cutting. If your goal is to drop weight then CICO. Eat heads of lettuce or some shit. Drink broth.
>>74231255le based science tubers told me that it's important to increase protein intake during a cut to minimize muscle loss.
>>74231262And you can still do that, you just can do that AND be both retarded and cheap. Your only issue is that you need 40g more of protein with 500kcal left over. 200grams of chicken has 50gr of protein and is about 300-400 kcal. So just eat some more fucking meat if the shakes are leaving you hungry. If you cant afford more meat then you have bigger issues than your macros.
>>74231230>doesnt specify weight or height in first post about complaining about stalled weight loss>spurges out when people assume he's a fat fuck in a weight loss general???
>>74231286I assumed that writing >2kcal maintenance makes it obvious that I'm not a fat fuck.
Fuck you guys, I'd fucking kill all you fat shits on my own in a fight. You'd all be fucking DEAD.
>>74231295>why the fuck is my maintenance 1600kcal?bro? you're backtracking nowi now firmly believe you just came here to argue for the sake of it
>>74231304Bros I am 6ft2 220lbs and 8% body fat year round. How do I stop being so fat?
>>74231304Huh? I don't get it. 1600kcal should already tell you that I'm not obese, but I'm still flabby. This general is FAT LOSS GENERAL, right? or should we start renaming it to FAT FUCK GENERAL?
>>74231319Are you the retarded from yesterday who was claiming he had tits and love handles? If so please kys
>>74231327No? but if he wants to lose fat then his post should be valid. It's a general for people who wants to lose fat after all and not exclusively for fatasses.
>>74231334It is you isn't it. Stupid faggot.
>>74231336I already said no, but whatever makes you sleep better at night, anon.
>>74231243>800 cal>50g of protein What miracle food is this? Did anon just break the code for gymaxxing?
>>74231350You retarded or something? Chicken
>>74231355Chicken doesn’t have 50g of protein in 800 calories. Retard.
>>74229482Veggie soup, because refeeding is gonna be a messHoly fuck fellow FastChads, our willpower and success makes fatcrabs seethe hard, look at them cope
>>74231362100g of chicken breast is 160kcal and has 31g of protein you fucking retarded faggot
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>>74231369Wrong.
>>74231394Yes, you are.
>>74229192Scrapple looks like fucking Anglo food, why do people eat that shit>goyslop, american :(>goyslop, Amish :0
