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Will these fuck up my fast?
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>>74229485
They help your fast. I had zyns and Celsius up the wazoo, which aided me in my weight loss.
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>>74229485
No you're good
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>>74229485
I have these instead of eating but when I do eat it's just cookies and croissants
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>>74229485
You're getting cheated by like 3mg of nicotine and $5 every time you buy this shit. Every other brand is better zyn is just the one that is marketed the most.
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>>74229578
Fucking based cookie enjoyer.
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>>74229485
Its amazing how many different shills post on fit. All form of nicotine will fuck you up. With regular use you will develop HTN and subsequent CHF, it is unavoidable. There is nothing fit about nicotine products, the testosterone gains are marginal at best, you would get more from sleeping more and getting more sun. All nicotine shills deserve the rope desu.
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>>74229485
absolutley, throw that faggot shit away and pack this isntead.
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>>74229620
forgot to attach picture
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>>74229613
Smoking is very bad for you. Nicotine pouches are not the same as smoking.
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>>74229635
Yes they are you fucking retard. Do you think that cancer is your biggest risk? Brainlets like you almost deserve the shit that nicotine does. Let me break this down for you: your chances of getting cancer from smoking is extremely small, your chances of developing hypertension due to nicotine products is nearly guaranteed. Hypertension leads various forms of cardiovascular disease but especially heart failure. Heart failure will cause fluid to back up into your lungs causing you to drown in your own fluids. You will spend your 40-60s on medications trying to slow down the progress of your eventual heart’s failure simply due to taking nicotine products regularly. I have taken care of thousands of patients with CHF all from nicotine use.
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>>74229584
this is true. fre, on! and rogue are all better, cheaper and give you more pouches. no one ever buys them and the clerk doesn't even know what they are half the time.
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>>74229713
take your meds you histrionic woman.
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>>74229485
Mama said they're filed with crushed glass to fuck your gums up.
But the real problem is the smell, stains and needing to spit all the time.
I don't even like lollipops because it feels like I'm drooling.
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>>74229732
what year is it?
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>>74229730
Suck my dick you fucking faggot shill. Nicotine is one of the most retarded drugs. All you fags push it deserve death.
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>>74229713
>Although nicotine acutely increases BP and heart rate, the effects of regular daily cigarette smoking on BP are not clear. In studies with casual office BP measurement, BP tends to be lower in cigarette smokers compared to nonsmokers.
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>>74229713
>>74229762
>Smokeless tobacco was weakly associated with chronic hypertension in 4 of 6 cross-sectional studies.
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even nicotine pouches are bad for your gums
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>>74229485
You can do some harm reduction of the nicotine by fasting and avoiding it around eating windows and taking taurine.

Avoiding it around eating windows because of the way it effects insulin sensitivity. Taurine because
>Taurine supplementation to nicotine-treated animals reversed the contractile dysfunction and restored the endogenous GSH levels and decreased high lipid peroxidation and MPO activities in both tissues. These data suggest that taurine supplementation effectively attenuates the oxidative damage because of chronic nicotine administration possibly by its antioxidant effects.
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>>74229762
>Cigarette smoking is the single most important risk factor for the development of cardiovascular and pulmonary diseases
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/HYPERTENSIONAHA.119.14608
>Studies on the effect of smokeless tobacco on lipid profiles, chronic blood pressure elevations, increased fibrinogen levels, and insulin resistance suggest that there is an association between an adverse cardiovascular risk profile and smokeless tobacco use
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/217417
Fuck off faggot
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>>74229789
Nigger, did you even read the studies, let alone the abstracts?
> We present a case report and review the literature on this subject.

A 57-year-old man presented with a history of diabetes, hypertension, hyperlipidemia, and myocardial infarction. His medications included an aspirin, a β-blocker, an angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor, and a statin. He had quit smoking 3 years earlier, after a 50 pack-year history, but continued to chew as many as 2 cans of tobacco each day (30 g of tobacco per can).

> however, the role of nicotine in the pathogenesis of these diseases is incompletely understood
> Male C57BL6/J mice were exposed to air (control) or nicotine vapor (daily, 12 hour on/12 hour off) for 8 weeks.


Quit conflating nicotine with smoking and tobacco.
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>>74229584
I like the big pillowy pouches but yeah Ons are on sale 3 for $5 like half the time and you can't beat that
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>>74229789
https://examine.com/supplements/nicotine/research/#8lraAJ9-cardiovascular-health
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>>74229732
You don't need to spit and they don't have a smell or cause stains, those are the tobacco ones, also the glass thing sounds like the people saying tea has heavy metals or some shit
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>>74229739
being a chronically seething schizo woman is much worse for your health than a little nicotine. you got serious problems retardo.
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>>74229713
You're working patients who have comorbidities, you should understand this, or do you just collect bedpans?
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>>74229828
coincidentally, nicotine is good for schizophrenia.
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>>74229840
untrue, a high percentage of schizophrenics smoke
it’s the other way around
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>>74229844
Because they self medicate with it
>>74229739
>>74229713
U need some nic to calm down
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>>74229584
>>74229726
I had an on! the other day at work hadn’t had one in quite a while, and I started to sweat profusely and I ended up having to poop twice in 15 minutes kek
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>>74229812
>Cigarette smoking is the single most important risk factor for the development of cardiovascular and pulmonary diseases; however, the role of nicotine in the pathogenesis of these diseases is incompletely understood.
Let me complete the sentence you cherry picked. Just because we know fully know the mechanisms doesnt mean we cant correlate the two
>quotes a single study in a systematic review
Seems that nicotine usage has already caused your brain to become oxygen starved
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>>74229789
I wrestle and use zyns and it's fucking obvious that they kill cardio. coffee does too but not as badly
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>>74229871
you're the one cherry picking, I finished the rest of the sentence for you since you you can't even quote the whole fucking thing and are choosing it as evidence. Along with picking a CASE STUDY of a former heavy smoker and tobacco user with COMORBIDITIES.


>Seems that nicotine usage has already caused your brain to become oxygen starved
>Preclinical models and human studies have demonstrated that nicotine has cognitiveenhancing effects. Attention, working memory, fine motor skills and episodic memory functions are particularly sensitive to nicotine's effects. Recent studies have demonstrated that the α4, β2, and α7 subunits of the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor (nAChR) participate in the cognitive-enhancing effects of nicotine.
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>>74229894
Take taurine
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>>74229584
I've been going through the 4mg On!s really fast but I don't want to use the 8mg ones since I'm afraid it'll make me shart
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>>74230403
Just cap your intake at one per hour and half, then one every odd or even hours. Then about every 2.5 hours. I'm down to like 5 or 6 a day of the 4s and there's no pull to do more than that unless I'm drinking.
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Currently sitting next to five different flavours. Zyn is fucking amazing. Not only did it make me, a smoker of 5 years quit, it has also helped me consume less calories because it's kinda gross to eat with a zyn in.
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>>74229485
Ever notice how every single time Theres one of these zyn threads its the same exact pic
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One question I have is why do these fuck me up sometimes? I have never gotten dizzy or sweaty or lightheaded from a cigarette but the first time I zynned it knocked me on my ass.
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>>74231095
based nooticer
>>74231115
more nicotine+very fast delivery. I started with snus and smoking does literally nothing to me
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>>74229613
>With regular use you will develop HTN and subsequent CHF, it is unavoidable.
hypertension doesn't cause heart failure. it's a contributing factor, but most americans live in permanent prehypertension at least. CHF is not a widespread disease
>the testosterone gains are marginal at best
it's not about testosterone gains, it's about aromatase inhibition
>you would get more from sleeping more and getting more sun
categorically untrue as sleeping and getting sun doesn't inhibit aromatase

no, you shouldn't pick up a habit just for marginal gains but if you have ADHD smokeless or tobacco-free nicotine is a SIGNIFICANT harm reduction over amphetamines. Vaping with pure nic+PG+VG or snus is ideal, since I don't trust that there aren't harmful carrier substances in Zyns.

>>74231115
are you retarded and put it in your bottom lip?
there's more nicotine in zyns, but they're a derivative of snus, not dip. dip goes in the lower lip, snus goes in the top lip. if you put a zyn in your lower lip, you'll be gutting a shitton of nicotine in addition to the transdermal oral route, meaning it'll fuck you up very fast.

>>74229894
>a mild vasoconstrictor and stimulant kills cardio
no shit sherlock
I love nicotine but even I dry myself out from it for an hour before working out

>>74229732
again, DOESN'T GO IN YOUR LOWER LIP
snus, upper tooths
dip, lower lip
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You're not really athletic until you achieve Mormon Mode and live without drugs.

Weaning coffee now. When I'm off nicotine will go too then I'm in business baybee.

You gotta go gradual as hell though.
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>>74229554
How's your heart?
t. Caffeine and Zyn fiend (I'm gonna have a heart attack before 40)
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>>74229713
No one is going to die from hypertension due to Zyns lmao
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>>74229713
Who pissed in your onions this morning faggot?
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>>74229713
>I have taken care of thousands of patients with CHF all from nicotine use.
no you havent and I know that you haven't because you'd never say that they had CHF from "nicotine use"
I guarantee you're some kind of biology major currently in college or something, or a "physio" major/physiotherapy doctoral student
literally nowhere would that connection be drawn for a patient except in their chart, where it would say "Hx smoking/nic use, refused cessation" or something similar
CHF is overwhelmingly linked with aortic stenosis + HTN + genetic risk with ACTN1/MHC polymorphisms or ACE polymorphisms that make people resistant to -pril's
HTN alone is never going to cause CHF, and a tremendous majority of instances of decompensation in HF happen due to either an associated MI in concert with stenosis of the AoV, or due to treatment of an aortic valve stenosis with a TAVR without treatment of an associated mitral valve regurgitation/prolapse

smoking is a risk factor for a constellation of cardiac disorders, but is a cause for none of them. I'm not touting benefits of smoking, and no one should take up the habit, but you don't understand the pathophysiology of cardiovascular disorders.
You're exactly the type of person who thinks that ANY arrhythmia will DEFINITELY CAUSE a stroke and the patient needs ablation RIGHT NOW, even if they're completely subclinical and get detected on accident.
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yeah nicotine is poison junkies need to stop coping
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>>74232858
based
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There's a reason You Know Who has been railing against nicotine. Just like meat and eggs, nicotine is actually good for you.
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>>74233121
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>>74233128
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>>74233143
BTW, nicotine has other benefits beyond what is described in these images.

It's very good at increasing testosterone and metabolism. Nicotine is also a really good nooptroic, and shows promise as a means of preventing or even reversing alzheimers.
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>arguing with addicts
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>>74232544
You won't be any more athletic than before quitting. Your individual athleticism is only a factor of how smart/hard you train
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>>74233214
t. retard

I've been doing this a long time and I know how vasoconstrictive stimulants affect cardio
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I use Zyn on a cut. Works pretty good, man.
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>>74229485
no but it does cause hairloss so not worth it
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>>74235521
There is literally no evidence that nicotine has any relationship wit hairloss.
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>>74235527
zyn causes hair loss, not nicotine
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>>74235536
Then why does Tucker have such lush hair?
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>>74233121
>>74233128
>>74233143
>>74233177
I thought coof wasn't real and the vaxxies were all getting groomed into something? Make up your minds.
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Have fun trying to quit nicotine pouches when you've had one in your mouth from the moment you've woken up to the time you go to sleep. The delivery of the nicotine pouch is practically weaponized at this point in getting and keeping you hooked.

Nicotine is bad, do not do it for any reason.
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>>74236180
You're right Mr. Pfizer. We should only take approved drugs from trustworthy companies and the doctors they bribe to prescribe them.
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>>74236811
Are you a paid shill? Why do you have to take any drugs or medications you dumb cunt
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>>74232544
>Weaning coffee now
I can understand giving up cigarettes or junk food, but coffee? That's taking the self improoovment a little too far imho. Coffee is one of the greatest things God has given us. A delicious drink that gives us energy, tastes good AND doesn't have any calories.
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>>74237059
Coffee is amazing but if you do a super intense thing like wrestling the difference is obvious. I noticed in college, you "gas" sooner with artifically elevated blood pressure and heart rate
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>>74236839
Sometimes you have to use medications in order to either cure/treat yourself of some sort of ailment, or to enhance your pre-existing abilities, which ofc is optional and not necessary.

There's no reason to forgo literally all pharmaceuticals or non-pharma 'supplements', that's retarded and myopic. Obviously macro dosing nicotine on a daily basis, a euphoric substance, is likely to result in dependency, if not full blown addiction. However as the pol schizo infographics show, perhaps there's some value in dosing nicotine whilst one is sick with COVID to aid in treating oneself faster and more effectively.
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>>74232736
based and The Fat Man pilled



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