Humans are carnivorous apex predators.
>buys meat from the grocery store
>>74606419humans are scavengers
>>74606419Post body and prove it
>>74606419you've never killed anything that you've eaten
>>74606490Because modern humans are domesticated livestock
>>74606419I predate upon homegrown tomatoes.
>>74606522b-but not me
>>74606419Omnivores, not Carnivores.still apex predators by choice.now name the damned piece of meat you posted.
>>74607878here's a pork chop I had today. >very apex of you anonI know
>>74607903Where's your vegetables?
>>74607977Vegetables are unhealthy
>>74606419if you eat meat you're a cannibal. i eat meat myself but accept this.
>>74607986That makes no sense I'm not a cow. Got something to tell us anon?
>>74607977i made a carrot ginger soup with lentils (not pictured)
>>74607984Sure thing anon >>74607990Yummy
>>74606419It only makes sense that humans would have eaten whatever food was most accessible primarily, as our population has always expanded to meet the food supply available, and unlike other animals we can acquire and survive on a wide range of foods.Because of this however root vegetables and fruits and then later grains have generally been the most available foods. This is probably why humans make so much starch amalayse relative to other animals and why it's not believable that our diet was primarily meat.
>>74606490 sperm is immune to OP's stomach acid?
>>74608013>Because of this however root vegetables and fruits and then later grains have generally been the most available foodsDemonstrably untrue until very recently for humans
>>74606419Yes
>>74607878Omnivores are not apex predators. I'm willing to admit that you're likely a new species dependent on soi to survive, but you are not an apex predator or a man.
>>74608026Fruit and root vegetables have always existed, chimps still primarily eat fruit so it can't be argued it needed to be cultivated before it was a viable source of food
>>74608046We evolved a very different digestive system from chimps as we became human. Most fruits chimps eat would be inedible to humans. Researcher have tried. Too fibrous like an unripe banana
>>74607977those useless things that were only ever put there to dress up the plate to make it seem like you had more?
>>74608013it only makes sense that humans have always strived for better and will take only the best they can get which is meat.
>>74608046that's why they're still chimps
>>74606490this
>>74606419ACK
>>74608023LMAO
>>74606419Factually wrong.
>>74608013Grains have only been present for the last 10,000 of our 200,000 years as humans, and 6-7 million years of hominid evolution. If you understand anything about anthropology, it's impossible to come to the conclusion that we're adapted to digesting grains.
>>74606428>minecraft is about mining>gets iron from iron golem farmNothing personnel
You would do well to join my team
>>74610155Humans only cultivated grains to make alcohol
>>74606490>grew up on a farm, went hunting oftenTry again, schlomo
>>74606455>continuous evidence of hunting spears, throwing/propelling devices, clear evidence of following herds and hunting large game is all fake>we just scavenged shit and scurried off like rats, yeah!>>74608013That only started in the neolithic.>>74610155There are genes and stomach bacteria that proves our recent adaptation to starchy foods, even dogs developed this compared to their wolf ancestors.>>74610223No. Alcohol in fruits was far more common.
>>74607878>now name the damned piece of meat you posted.I think that's a bone in ribeye
>>74610266Look at the work of Weston Price. Look at Inuit tribes eating 99% meat vs their descendents who start eating grains. Look at modern hunter-gatherer tribes like the Hadza compared to "civilized" people in industrialized nations. Look at how our brains have gotten smaller and we've gotten shorter since the Agricultural Revolution. Every piece of evidence points to grains being harmful.We literally know that phytic acid and other plant toxins prevent the absorption of nutrients and cause deficiencies. We know that oxalates accumulate in the body and rob it of calcium, and they also form oxalate crystals that either turn into kidney stones or damage other soft tissue in the body. We know that isothiocyanates like sulforophane prevent the absorption of iodine, leading to deficiency and even goiter. Plants are waging a chemical war against us, and their seeds are their babies, their next generation, the most highly defended parts of them.And we know that humans are adapted to eating meat. Our stomach acid pH is around 2, lower than that of obligate carnivores like cats, and comparable to that of scavengers like vultures. That acidic environment is designed to kill dangerous microbes and break down meat. We do not have many large molars designed for grinding, the way ruminants do. We do not have multiple stomachs nor a large cecum, both of which house the bacteria that allow ruminants and gorillas, respectively, to digest plants. Our cecum is so small and atrophied that for many years, scientists actually thought it was a completely useless vestigial organ - we now know, of course, that the appendix houses bacteria to recolonize the gut in the event of severe digestive disturbance. We have front-facing eyes built for depth perception, an essential feature for predators to spot and chase moving prey. There are at least a dozen nutrients we can't get from plants, like creatine and choline.
>>74606455Based.
>>74606419No they're not, you just like this idea because it makes you feel manly kek. But it's factually wrong, stop deluding yourself
>>74611245Someone's grumpy. Wanna talk about it, bud? Bad grades again? Ignored at home? Don't get so mad online.
>>74606419For sure, why would I need vitamins
>>74608071We didnt evolve from chimps so
>>74611255Kek you really have no rebutal. I'm not grumpy buddy, i'm just checking you because you clearly need it
>>74610535>Plants are waging a chemical war against us, and their seeds are their babies, their next generation, the most highly defended parts of them. Root and leaf vegetables don't contain any seeds, while seedbearing fruits and berries literally evolved to be eaten as a method of seed dizpersal, you lunatic.
>>74606419Stop educating these faggots. More steak for me.
>>74610535>Look at modern hunter-gatherer tribes like the Hadza compared to "civilized" people in industrialized nations.Why dont any of those tribes have centenarians
>>74606490oh, in that case, i would have no problem raising rabbits duck and chicken, small animal are easy to kill and easy to butcher, ducks are a pain when it comes to removing every single feathers from the skin, but since it's my favorite meat, i make an extra effort for those delicious fuckers pigs would be dooable if others people are willing to process the carcass along, hey, did you know that pig's organs are disturbligly simular to humain organs, same size and everything, my avó used to says that '' if you wanna see ( the inside) of your body, kill a pig''
>>74611291>He's never heard of organ meat
Evolution is a myth
>>74611325The flesh of the fruit is designed to be tasty and nutritious while the seeds are quite literally designed to be indigestible so you'll shit them out in fresh fertilizer, you fucking retard. Roots and leaves still have plenty of defense chemicals, just less than seeds. Did you really think your comment was a gotcha?
>>74611377Why don't any of those tribes have heart disease, diabetes, obesity, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, dementia, etc.? Because they eat their natural diet. Industrialized people are sickly and disabled long before they die.
>>74611468>The flesh of the fruit is designed to be tasty and nutritious while the seeds are quite literally designed to be indigestible so you'll shit them out in fresh fertilizer, you fucking retardYou are agreeing with me and contradicting yourself yet insulting me. Seeds are supposed to be eaten with the fruit, yet survive digestion, as a method of seed dispersal, like I said.Nice attempt at a reframe but it failed this time.
>>74611481>Because they eat their natural dietSo we should eat grains, fruit and tubers then? Gotcha.
>>74611300we evolved from a common ancestor. Everything I said still stands despite the nitpick
>>74611855No natural people ever eat plant based by choice. Vegetarians are observed as generally less healthy
>>74611981I was just making sure you didnt think we evolved from chimps is all
>>74608034>Omnivores are not apex predatorsThen why are humans apex predators?
>>74611983>nooo my rule only applies when it fits my biasConcession accepted
>>74611983>No natural people ever eat plant based by choiceIrrelevant pivot>Vegetarians are observed as generally less healthyOdd how they live longer with less health issues and chronic diseases
>>74606419>Humans are carnivorous apex predators.Why humans produce amylase?
>>74611696>Agrees that seeds aren't digested>Somehow thinks this disproves my original claim that seeds aren't digestedYou really are retarded, aren't you?
simple as
>>74612320chimps also have amylase
>>74612799really good you mind if i save this anon?
>>74612799That was a good video.I can't get over how impressive right's jawline is.
>>74606428Audibly kekd anon thank you
>>74607990Sounds disgusting lmao I had a lb of beef and a can of green beans
>>74610535>Look at how our brains have gotten smaller and we've gotten shorter since the Agricultural RevolutionThis is false.But yes let's look at the African hunter gatherers who never developed a written language or invented a wheel.Agricultural revolution is the reason why you're able to post these stupid gay cringe opinions on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.
>>74613194bone and teeth health has also been reduced since agriculture
>>74613197Also false.>inb4 that one image of aboriginals
>>74613203its not. keep coping
>>74613206Only people coping are the idiots who somehow believe humans were smarter before the agricultural revolution, lmfao.Go back to speaking a click click language and dancing around a fire, you nigger worshipping faggot.
>>74613203>Visits dentist because xis teeth are melting from carbsVery ancestral!
>>74612320Why do humans have a gallbladder and no elongated cecum?
>>74611991To be an apex predator, as humans are, one must have the capacity to eat carnivores. An apex predator must be an obligate carnivore.
>>74613220>grain brain liar begins moving goal postswow i am shocked. shocked i tell you
>>74613067>>74613244>no answer
>>74613238I haven't visited the dentist in 6 years, and the last time I went was because my wisdom tooth was coming through, and he said it was fine to leave it.So even on a grain/carbon based diet my skull is somehow still large enough to accommodate my wisdom teeth :^)
>>74613255>being tall means anything
>>74613255Agriculture existed during the palaeolithic period of the way. Don't believe the godless scientists who insist civilisation did not exist earlier than 3000 years ago.
>>74613283You not having good habits isnt a defense of anything
>>74613306>le going to dentist is bad!>le not going to dentist is bad!Is this your brain on canitardism?
>>74613328I'm not that guy so
>>74613194If you think the truth is stupid and gay, then that's a (You) problem
>>74606490I've had a few deer, and numerous fish
>>74606419only reason humans could live in areas where foraging was scarce is threw animal food sources. to give you an idea a white tail deer is around 30k calories of meat, not including bone marrow or organs.
>>74613288stature is generally an indicator health and proper nutrition. Now continue coping>>74613291not really. Stable isotope studies disprove this
>>74613709>stature is generally an indicator health and proper nutritionSource?
>>74613905stop embarrassing yourself
meat is delicious and i can digest it without issue.>b-but don't care, a life without meat isn't worth living.
>>74613936So no source then
>>74613368You believe hunter gatherer Africans are smarter than people who were able to create a written language?>>74613709>Stable isotope studies disprove thisAll fake and gay. Scientists want everyone to believe humans were living in caves until 10,00 years ago.
>>74614001Mediterraneans were hyper carnivore as well just a slightly different timeline
>>74613970>The mechanisms linking adult height and health are examined, with a focus on the role of potential confounders. Evidence across studies indicates that short adult height (reflecting growth retardation) in low- and middle-income countries is driven by environmental conditions, especially net nutrition during early years. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4892290/jesus christ use your brain for once instead of needing everything you think dictated by "science". sad really
>>74614001You think Africans dont have a written language?
>>74610195Based mob grinder
>>74607986Eating man dick doesn't make you a cannibal. It's makes you gay.
>>74606419>I'm an APEX PREDATOR! That's why I buy my meat at Walmart precooked and frozen! And why I wear glasses and have type 2 diabetes! Raaaarrrgghhh! I'm going to pay for this with plastic money that I'm borrowing from someone else, then put it in my Chinese car and drive to my wife's boyfriend's place! Boy I sure do love my comfy climate controlled bedroom! Time to shitpost on 4chan on my smart device while I LARP as le epic caveman!
Humans are 1. Generalist scavengers 2. Facultative carnivores Any other terms are misleading. Omnivore included.
>>74614442nobody is eating your bugs bill give it up
>>74614445why facultative over obligate carnivore? Maybe I misunderstand the terms
>>74614524Why would I eat bugs, you nasty fucker??
>>74614445Why humans produce amylase?
>>74606490I hear a fly buzzing around me. Should I kill and eat it?
>>74608013You’re wrong. Meat is the most prized, and the less of it that makes up of your diet the worse off you will be. Plants are a reserve for when you can’t access meat.
>>74606455>he didn't directly descend from Europe's mammoth hunters
>>74613247What the fuck are you talking about? You can eat tigers, bears, sharks and whatever else the fuck you want lol
bump lol
>>74606428OP btfo
>>74606428Gotten
TAKE A STAND
>>74606419Humans being omnivores is such an obvious myth. They can't even digest raw meat without getting sick and having diarrhea.
>>74617989Which is why we cook it. Take your stupid argument elsewhere.
>>74618002>we naturally eat this food, we just have to do something unnatural for it to be edible
>>74617989factory farmed slop will sometimes get people sick but thats not an issue with raw meat per se
>>74617989>He's never heard of steak tartare, sashimi, raw oysters, carpaccio
>>74618094>NOOOOO RAW MEAT BAD MKAYarguing with morons is unfruitful
>>74618094Raw fish is cool because japan, raw beef is gay and retarded and I'm yired of pretending it's not
>>74617989I was raw vegan and started eating raw meat just fine
>>74618049Yes it is. Favotry farming has nothing to do with it.
>>74611291>Ash 10g
>>74618094Yes nobody has ever gotten sick from eating raw meat, its unheard of, you listing dishes made with raw meat surely debunks that
>>74618140>let me just debunk this strawman proving how smart i amfantastic
>>74618153
>>74618140>Humans being omnivores is such an obvious myth. They can't even digest raw meat without getting sick and having diarrhea.It debunks your original claim. Cute goalpost-shifting you're doing there.
>>74618545That's not me calm down
>>74618547I bet a lot of people fall for the samefag trick. Sadly, I'm not one of them. People might respect (You) more if you admitted when you were wrong.
>>74618557Whatever you say
>>74618107Raw fish is delicious. Raw beef is delicious. Raw oysters are delicious.
>>74618564based
>>74618014Cooking food is the most natural thing in the world for us to do. We have been doing it for millennia.
>>74618580I guess we just have a different definition of natural
>>74615824post fly
>>74606419Hunter gatherers also, if they managed to avoid getting eaten by a Sabre tooth tiger, starve to death, freeze to death or die of the cold, they died of old age by about 30
>>74618688Anthropology cannot inform on how long they lived to due to the inadequacies of dating tools within their profession. Therefore, you are making things up on the false notion that people lived to only 30, when in fact, they cannot differentiate between an aged 30 years-old or an aged 120 years-old specimen.
>>74618743We can tell that shit just by how developed their bones are. What are you smoking?
Why the fuck can’t you people just eat normal food? If fruits and vegetables are good for bears and gorillas shouldn’t they be good for me too?As long as you’re not devouring seed oils, ultra-processed carbs, preserved meats, and refined sugars, shouldn’t you be pretty much be good with a well-balanced diet that meets macro goals and maintenance cals? Why the fuck do I care if nomads or cro-mags or eskimos only eat seal meat?
>>74606490I knocked out and slaughtered with a hunting knife a 200kg pig
>>74606419Humans are omnivore
>>74618772try carnivore for a week, you won't die from it
>>74618782I already eat around 200-300g of various lean meats a day. I’m sure in the short term carnivore can have some positive effects, most restriction diets do. I just don’t see how that can be sustainable in the long run, nor do I see how it’d be any healthier than a balanced diet with a degree of plant matter mixed in. Healthier than a vegan is not an admirable bar to clear. Is there any legit reason to cut out leafy greens from a diet? If you really want to argue I could see fruit being unnecessary, but I can’t see living without greens. Even a jungle cat needs to eat the wildgrass sometimes.
>>74618779Facultative carnivore is a more precise description >>74618772Gorilla and bear are different
>>74618819Carnivore is defined as >70% of an animal's food being meat. Very arbitrary definition and it still fails, most people don't eat that much meat.
>>74618782You may lose some hair though
>>74606419>>74610155>>74610535It's quite clear that grains offer a societal advantage to a human nation in the form of cheap and plentiful calories. You can get all the necessary nutrients from 1000-500kcal of animal products a day and eat the rest of your kcals in grains.A nation of omnivores will conquer and subjugate herbivore and carnivore societies because it is superior in land use efficiency and can field a larger and more fit army with the same food production resources.Evolution may be playing catchup when it comes to food consumption but eugenics is an easy solution for that.
>>74618808>Is there any legit reason to cut out leafy greens from a diet?Oxalates, Sally Norton has yt videos discussing it
>>74617989You know lions can't eat 3 month old meat either? If the kill is fresh you can actually eat it raw, just like a lion would. Are lions not carnivores?
>>74618962Mongolians only ate horse meat
>>74618835Hence facultative not obligatory
>>74618962Grain is used to farm humans like livestock. Modern humans are literally grain fed livestock on a plantation. what happens when cattle eat grain instead of their natural food? They get chronically sick. Same with grain fed humans.
>>74618751not really. we arent trees
>>74619127Delusional beliefs. Nutrition is nutrition, food is food.
>>74619275>t. Harvey Kellogg
>>74607903Nice grill marks anon>>74607990This sounds good, hopefully the ginger providing a nice kick
Vegan tofu steak. Yum
>>74619275>food is foodThen why do all animals get sick from eating grains? Too many grains = sick.Same for humans. Grains are grains.
>>74621018>Tofu>Yum.
>>74621018Post recipe link
>>74621138They don't there are numerous animals who eat grains as their primary source of food. Stop talking about things you don't know anything about.
>>74618962>We're all miserable and chronically ill because of abundant crap food>But we will conquer everyone because of sheer numbers due to same abundant foodBeehive collectivist shithead mindset right there.
>>74621138>all animals get sick from eating grains>Too many grains = sickPick one
>>74607878A gorilla is an omnivore. Humans aren't. If we could be completely healthy on a vegan diet then we would be omnivores. An omnivores thrives on either food source, a species that thrives on animal foods but can tolerate some degree of plant foods isn't an omnivore, most carnivores fall into that category.>>74606522Your biology is that of a carnivore. Now the lifestyle you choose to live is another matter, most people want to identify as being lower on the food chain for whatever reason and prefer to eat like they are cows or chickens under some false moral pretense. It's like pretending to be a woman by taking drugs and tucking your cock between your legs, it doesn't change biological reality.
>>74608013We fucking survived an ice age.
Just past the first month anons. After that it gets easier.
>>74621375>If we could be completely healthy on a vegan diet then we would be omnivores.That's not what omnivore means
>>74621251>>74621138You fucking delusional retards it already happened. All human societies worldwide are omnivore because it is the SUPERIOR diet.>sick all the timeWhat the fuck does that mean? I'm sick once a year and so is everyone else I know of.
>>74607977Vegetables are literally poisonous and carcinogenic.
>>74611291Grain industry psyop app
>>74618883The opposite, actually.
>>74618808>lean meatsBig problem
>>74612054>Odd how they live longer with less health issues and chronic diseasesThey don't, though.
>>74622692They do but okay
>>74622697Zero evidence of that.
>>74622697>They do but okayIt's ok, you're wrong.
>>74622705Except all the studies and stuff yeah
>>74622719What studies? You better not mention Blue Zones.
