Welcome my lean and soon to be lean brothers to the Lean Pill General!Intense gaze edition!>What is the Lean Pill?The lean pill is accepting that as long as you are fat, it doesn't matter you can bench LMAOnly 4pl8s.You have eaten the big "nutrition" lies. Time to wake up and be LEAN.>What is /LEAN/ for?To share data, questions and anecdotal experience about how real the lean pill is, particularly if you were fat and lost the weight.>Who is /LEAN/ for?Skinnyfats, hamplanets, powershitters with painful knees, normie mode, dad bods, skinny fags and skelly mode anons that want to ASCEND.>Why do it?"Life ends and begins at 12%""There are male models of all races and sizes. Some models aren't tall, but they are ALL lean"Regarding women the key it's not the muscles. it's being lean. Plus it's healthier. Not only hormonal (higher test), but your heart will struggle if you are overweight.Build muscle but, most importantly, be LEAN.>Advice:- Cico, low carb, keto, carnivore, intermittent fasting, water fasting, dry fasting.. Pick your battle, fight it and win.- You need some muscle to be lean. Lift, eat at least 2g protein / kg goal weight, but avoid the carbs.- Clean bulk is the ONLY bulk.- Hiit exercises are good, anything sprint related: cycling, rooning, swimming, air bikes, rows- Focus on the objective. Only one life anon. Do you want to live it without knowing what life is on an easier difficulty?As always,WAGMIPrevious thread: >>74688797
>>74728184That's not leanpill
>>74728190Anybody under 15% and esp 12% with semi decent musculature is leanpill
Oh no no no leanbros
>>74728184Why do these threads always have the most homosexual picture, is that from your personal collecion OP?
>>74728237It's probably the same guy who schizo posts in plg
>>74728237Funny part is that since that Midwestern faggot with the Nile river for abs posted the OP one time and got roasted he has since switched to homosexual pictures of other men, but I know it's still him gooning to other pictures of men
>>74728237What you describe as homosexual, girls 18(for legal reasons)-22 describe as daddy
>>74728184Women should have a thigh gap so their tits get bigger
>>74728237>>74728289https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/74530817/#74530817This is the faggot anon who keeps making these threads btw
>>74728321And this his disciplined , army of true warriors who made itLeanchads unite!
>>74728289>Nile river for abs
>>74728321I like this guy but making these threads almost daily and describing yourself as a lean chad is just unnecessary verbal masturbatingMight as well fuck your own booty at that point
OP here, I can personally guarantee I'm not the nile abs guy, there's multiple leanchads here
>>74728321>Those absoh nonononono
>>74728406It’s ok Midwest just own it
>>74728184Just an FYI for everyone here, being lean isnt everything. You have to socialmaxx. Being lean helps A LOT. But you can still sperg out and get rejected regardless.>t. permalean virgin, just got ghosted 2 days agoWhen I go to the gym today I will take a pic and post here for proof
I'm 24, 5'10" 180 lbs. If I get lean, will there be loose skin on my face, cheeks specifically? Do I just have do it super slowly or ...?
>>74728331We get it,. Not everyone in this thread is 10% bf with muscle.WowYou're so funny/clever
>>74728331So you mean to tell me, that there are people, who are not lean or muscular, who come to a thread about becoming lean and muscular, because they want advice so that they can become lean and muscular?
BUMP!!
Do you recommend any supps to help with the fat burning or dealing with fatigue?
Is boxing a /lean/ approved form of cardio?
>>74731139wouldn't practically all cardio be good
>>74731184Yes>>74731139Yes>>74731120Yes
Enjoy it while you can. Past 30, visceral fat makes it impossible
Will becoming lean give me a better jawline?
>>74731722If you have good bone structure, it will. The face gains are one of the biggest appeals of the lean pill.
So what's the point of this general? You don't share any lifts and it's not particularly hard to get lean, you eat less.How is it any different than posting in >>>/hm/ ?
>>74731958>f you have good bone structure,Welp, that's it for me. I'm fucking DONE FOR, lads
>>74731981Do you even know what your bone structure looks like? Don’t give up before you try.
>>74728184I want to go from 6’2” 290lbs to whatever 15 % bf is for me in 12 months. Probably very small for my height, I would guess around 160-180. Please tell me what to do and I will do it. How many calories to eat, what to do for exercise how often.
>>74732116>what to do for exerciseEverything. At least everything you don’t want to lose.Train just like you’re building muscle, so hit every muscle group twice a week or so.>how many caloriesFirst you need to find your maintenance calories by tracking what you eat and what you weigh over time. Every 500 calories below that per day will lose you 1 pound of fat per week.There’s an upper limit to how much fat you can lose in a day without burning lean mass, about 31 calories per pound of body fat per day. So if you have 80 pounds of body fat, you don’t need to eat a thing as long as you keep your electrolytes up, but the leaner you get, the slower you’ll have to take it. If you don’t mind the wait, a 500 deficit is the least risky.However big your deficit, remember to eat your protein. About 1 gram per pound of your goal weight, so around 170.Tl;dr: fewer calories, more protein, exercise all the muscles.
I just want my love handles gone already anons. I have made progress but i wish it was faster
I would much rather look like this>>74721959>>74731976
>>74732264I've been stuck at my current weight for a while. Few months so doesnt seem lile a plaeteu. How do you tell if you're not eating enough and stalling your metabolism? Currently on 1800 because I calced my sedentary at 2300. I was told not to take into account exercise or the energy I burn at my job is that wrong?
>>74732409Fat?
>>74731120current bf? either way, the answer you're looking for is ephedrine and caffeine. if you're already quite lean after hard cutting, switch to a slow cut of maybe -500 calories.
>>74729980You're at a good weight for your height unless it's literally all fatNo you will not have loose skin unless again, you're all fat
does the leanpill work for manlets or should i just bulk. lean for me would be like 145-150lbs
>>74728321mirin'
>>74732409Anon they have much more muscle, and they would look better if they got leaner. I'm not calling you low IQ, in fact your comment is so low IQ that I am certain it is bait. A false equivalence if you will.
>>74732572That's fine, but know that that kinda fizeek only gets you 30+ year old cat (or worse, human) moms>>74732545You'll have to work harder in the dating world, you might have to learn guitar or something, and you'll still have a hard time. But better leanmax than dwarfmaxWhat are you, 5'6?I'd say, in the real world (not on the internet), the manlet cutoff is 5'8, most women will still be receptive if you're taller than that, esp if you do something they like write poetry or play guitar
>>74728235This is just body dysmorphia in order to cope with his fleeting youth
>>74728184how about some lean-mire stories>reach 12%, vascularity, jaw, neck, arm, similar to OP's pic but wearing anime shirt (lol)>at gym>packed at 20pm>zoomers, boomers, thots and like 2-3 gym bros>all look absolutely shit, dyel and 20-30% bf>suddenly some female personal trainer arrives>good height, long soft hair, kindle smile, brunette but white european features, small waist, good hips, she laughs with other thots she is training and talks with some fatass who she is probably training as well, not flirty but clearly she wants to make an impression there, like most of us>*neuron activation* >can't stop looking at her>eye of eye connection for 3 seconds>she looks confused, probably annoyed or even scared >pass by her a couple of times, notice she's checking my face like waiting to what I'm gonna say>ignore her, check her only by sideways >start doing heavy curls, notice she is staring at me>doing some light work with legs, suddenly turn my head to the right>staring again>packing my stuff, wear helly hansen comfty polar (sign of money in the 3rd world shithole where I live)>staring againI have the power of leaness, money, own place and car but no social networks because cocoon mode and I'm in another city. barely know 5 people here. I'm going to approach and make my point clear. wish me luck, leanbros.
>>74728235with footage like that one available, I don't get why people permabulk or roidthey look fucking disgusting
>>74732719Good luck son
>>74732609>>74732732“If a man does not have sauce, then he is lost. But the same man can get lost in the sauce.”― Gucci Mane
Yea more like faggot general. What a shitty thread homosexuals really do ruin everything they touch
>>74732833Yeah I'm homosexual for your mother
>>74728235He looks worse roided.The lean pill is real
>>74732417You’re most likely miscounting your calories if you’ve been stalled that long. How often do you eat out? And how many liquid calories do you drink?
>Yea more like faggot general. What a shitty thread homosexuals really do ruin everything they touch
>>74728331>another phonepost image spammed by the riodtranny bloatlord Isn't there /fph/ thread you should be seething in?
>>74728321how do you even get diastasis recti as a male this bad? Must have happened in the womb or childhood right to be this fucking stretched apart. I can't conceive of a type of body injury accident that causes diastasis recti like that in a male who looks ''neverfat'' and young.Pregnant women get that after blowing up their stomachs bearing twins and shit. How do you get that as a young man?
>>74732981I track everything in a diet app so I'm maintaining the deficit as far as I can tell. Some days I might go over by 100 or something because I measured something wrong while making my lunch I guess.I don't eat out. The only calories I drink is a cup of milk at most a day.I go to the gym 5 days a week as well so I'm really just lost entirely here.
>admits to being a phonefaggotEither newnigger zoomer who doesn't know how to post or another riodtranny seething. Keep us updated faggot :)
>u-ur seething>spams pnone images in threads that live rent free in his headPost body weight fatty.
>samefaggingLmao
>consistently keeps thread bumpedGood to see the thread lives rent free in your head riodtranny
>still hasn't posted body weight>phoneposting KEK
>>74728184More like intense gays lol
>riodtranny rage>too fat to fit in his chairLOL
>the average bloatlord R-I-O-D tranny seethes
>phonenigger thinks any effort should be expended for his tranny rageLMAO
>still screeching in his hutttSNEEDIN in sweden
bros I overdid it on the workout yesterday and had to skip today's run... it's over...
>>74730213yesand these men who are not lean or muscular get told to cut because life starts at 12% bf, then realize they are now just skinny because they have no muscle mass, but they are too afraid to bulk because le 12% fear is instilled into them. so they stay forever small because they're too afraid of getting fat. then they post here insulting bulkers even though they're 120lbs soaking wet and could be raped by the average man with no recourse. it's fucking sad.
>>74734329All of them look fine. All more aesthetic than powersharts
I've leaned out from mid 20 percent bf to around high to mid teens the last few weeks on a combination of HGH, Clen, Anavar, and a 2000-2500 kcal limit per day, plus lifting and/or bjj 6 days a week. It's lovely.
>>74728235Based
>>74733552how do you get gelatasis rectum?
>>7473271920pm
>>74733599>I'm really just lost entirely here.eat less or more cardio or both. sucks but there really isn't anything else to say
5’9155lbs33Am I sub 12% yet?
>thread devolves into nothing but off topic seething within first 5 postsGod I hate nu-fit so much, bring back the funny faggots like Shelby and RedditRandy
>>74735265>man I hate newfags! Bring back acruslly funnt trolls like those two retards who came out in 2022!Imagine doing a 360 reverse this bad, absolute retard , both of those faggots WERE nufit
>>74728321he looks good, who is the guy in the back btw?
>>74732970>Left i a 9. Right is a 4Dude, 30 pounds is the difference between Beta IncelCreep and chad neverDoesAnythingWrong.Both Black and white pilled.
>>74728321Based lean bro baker.He aint gonna give you dick. Stop saving pics of him.
>>74734360you just proved his point dyel
Why they seethe so much about us lean bros?
>>74734957<lean af>still puffy cheeksGrim.
>>74735657Learn to greentext durkesh
>at the stage where one blow out weekend hides my abs and cum gutters for a whole weeki feel disgusting. christ i cant wait to get home from this wagie hellhole and do some weights
>>74735677How old are you broThis happened to me day I turned 26 kekThought I could stretch out the metabolism
What can I do to get leaner?Been stuck like this for the last year.>cut moreI start losing muscles>increase calorie and workout harderI start bulking/ getting bigger.
>>74735962Fuck off progress man
I'm a bit skinny fat, should I just cut right away?Also what are some tasty cutting meals and meal preps you guys like?
>>74734485>doesn’t live 48 hours a day 24 hour sisters, it’s over!
>>74735979>0 progress manFixed that for you
>>74728237Yeah its homo-y no doubt, but a great reminder of the lean aesthetic. I don't care what you fat fucks say, chicks love this shit.
>>74728184Carbs are fine and you’re retarded
>>74728321I've heard of parting the red sea but never seen a parting of abs irl
>>74728321He would look better with more body fat because those abs are atrocious
Guys I've stopped trying to be lean, introduced carbs and caloric surplus back into my diet, got to 20% bodyfat, I'm way more energetic and I feel like I'm getting stronger every time I go to the gym now.I liked my 4pack but I like seeing a bigger frame in the mirror more. I was too small.
>>74728321Bargain bin Brad Pitt in the Bollywood remake of Fight Club, maybe.
>>74736370It's a fat illusion.
>>74736370>Guys I've stopped trying to be healthy, introduced carbs and caloric surplus back into my diet, got to 20% bodyfat, I'm way more unhealthy and I feel like I'm getting fatter every time I go to the gym now.>I liked my 4pack but I like seeing a bigger belly in the mirror more. I was too much of a bitch to keep going.Fixed it for you
>>74728184these threads make powershittesr and fatties seethe so much just by existing i love them
>>74736474And the more they seethe, the more they bump the thread, the longer it lasts, and the more they have to see the lean pill as they scroll through.
>>74734361Did you gain muscle while on that stack and cut?
>>74728184What are you niggers eating, Just chicken everyday? What’s cheap and easier than milk and eggs. Cholesterol is just a meme right?
>>74736590idk what other anons eat but I'm dyel trying to cut to escape skinnyfat and right now I've started adding 3 scoops of prot powder, also started eating canned tuna, easy 30g right there for only 140 cals, then my dinner is whatever my wife is cooking which I told her to have at least some kind of meat in it, primarily chicken
>>74736112If you're actually skinnyfat then you should recomp.Lose weight until you no longer have a pot belly but make sure you're actually lifting weights along the way.
>>74736974I thought it didn't really work unless you are fat or very newbish. I'm I still don't lift heavy, but I am starting to platue so I don't know if that means I missed the window.Also what would be the optimal calorie and macro spread? From roughly calculating, my TDEE is about 2150
>>74736590fatty lamb and beef, eggs, dairyi do not fear fat, no reason to, and need it since i don't eat much carbs.
>>74736590Fish
>>74736541yep
>eat basically the same calories every day from the main meals (since I only rotate through a bunch of recipes with exact amounts and roughly the same calories)>but also eat a lot of sweets>put on a bit of fat over the last years, maybe 5kg or so>decide I have to get rid of them>keep eating the same, but eliminate all sweets down to 0>do the same kind of cardio as before>weight remained completely stable for the last 3 monthsI am getting clowned on by my own body.The solution is obvious, eat even less or work out more, I would have expected this to already be enough.
>>74732409I am 6'5I will never look remotely like them without drugs.
I want to fight at heavyweight but it's extremely hard to bulk past 235. I already ate all my chips and ice cream. I guess I have like eight cookies left.Anyway, I think I want to abstain from junk food and eat comfortable amounts of nutrient dense stuff. You know the Japanese thing where you stop eating at 80% full. I want to do that. Tired of stretching my stomach with Little Caesar's.burger patty or small steak2 eggsrusset potatogreenspint of whole milkThat's dinner, man. No mas!
>>74736974Never cut from skinnyfat. Get muscles first.
>>74737772Nah he's right. You're giving them terrible advice. Starting from skinnyfat is like the one place where recomp isn't a meme. You just raise your general fitness and reduce calories. simple as
>>74738023To add it doesn't even need to be anything extreme. Calorie deficit on high protein diet until the skinnyfatties lose the love handles and visceral fat belly until they no longer look like Homer Simpson with sticks for arms. Muscle building is an absolute and because they're so weak, training on a diet will still net them muscle growth anyways.>>74737083>I thought it didn't really work unless you are fat or very newbish.If you're actually skinnyfat you ARE fat and newbish. Most fat males unironically have more muscle than you.
i ate carbs again...
I’m, ohhh I’m, I’m going to boomp!
>>74728184How am I doing?
>>74736395>>74736417Mental illness
>>74728289kek
5'10" 157 lbsI've always been lean. Feel good man.
does full fat milk count as lowcarb
>>74741142It's around 50 grams of carbs per liter, so not really. Whole fat milk is a very even mix of fat, carbs, and protein.
>>74728184This absolute fucking hottie I've been talking to just dropped that she has a boyfriend. I'd always assumed that the dude who she posts on her IG was her brother given they're never touching and he looks special needs but it turns out they're fucking. How do I approach this?Her last text where she dropped this bombshell said, "My go to weekend with my bf if getting lunch on Sunday and going for a walk. Then going to the movies on Monday while it’s dead and then shopping."I still want to get her out on a date and send her home to her boyfriend with my cum leaking out of her. How can I proceed??
>>74741181Fuck, I love milk so much...
>>74741100Those locs are boss af. Fuck mirin hard. How did you start those? Also good build.
>>74741281Just keep flirting with her bro. If you're truly better than her bf, she could very well monkey branch to you. Women do shit like that pretty often
>>74741367I feel fucking retarded, mate. I guess I am just not used to this kind of treatment, y'know? Last time I was single I was 22, had abs, and was conventionally attractive. If a girl had a boyfriend, she'd call them whilst we fucked, and we'd laugh at him. Now I'm a fat fuck who just got out of a decade long relationship and I don't know how to ruin women anymore.Which of these is a better response?A)That's okay, I'm not the jealous type. We should exploit our student cards before they lapse and hit up the museum this week. I'll line a work-from-home day up and ghost the office. Or B)Haha, I rate that. My weekends look much the same. My girlfriend and I have been doing the merri-creek walk lately. It is really beautiful. I also feel you on the cheap tickets! I always line my work-from-home days up for a Monday or Tuesday and hit up Kino or the Astor for cheap tickets. Do you still have a student card? Given you're not a fan of high octane activities we could exploit the museum or NGV being free. Or, if you're keen, the merri-creek could be a fun walk to go on together. Why don't you drink alcohol btw?
>>74741440Both of these sound extremely forced and awkward and I'm seriously happy I never interact with normalfags. In fact all of this sounds like mental illness.
I got lean in 2014 went from no pussy to fuckboy.It's attractive to girls.I myself liked the flat tummy where abs show.That said, I don't even like my face much when I'm lean. You get that climber or bike sport look, folded skin in your face. You're lean and go on fit and see men can also have big delts and a big chest and look good in a t-shirt because of it. You eventually bulk again.Now I'm not at all saying don't get lean, it's a passthrough to a more athletic thing. But LEAN doesn't actually seem to be the optimal stage to end up in - if you're not a 19yo 6'2 guy with blonde wavy hair or whatever. Lean is necessary, but you'll not like it yourself for long. At least I don't. I like my face now more than I would if I lose 7kg
>>74741689And yet you didn't post body at all. You must not like yourself still
I have to say, after doing a gigantic 20kg cut, and being close to lean, I look the best I've ever looked and women are actively chasing me whereas they didn't bat an eye before, and I am not even real "lean". I can only wonder what will happen once I reach leanness... I believe this is the correct pill for aesthetics.
>>74740534Gotta start somewhere.
>>74741660>>31652977Cheers, boss. I was a mong and already responded with, "Hey, that sounds great, Jade! Weekends for me usually involve exploring places like the many markets Melbourne has to offer and lately the Merri Creek—it's stunning this time of year. I'm also a fan of catching cheap films on Mondays or Tuesdays at Kino and The Astor when I work from home.By the way, no worries about mentioning your boyfriend—I'm not the jealous type. How about we take advantage of our student cards before they lapse and visit the museum this week? I'll sort out a work-from-home day so we can enjoy it without rushing."Then the slut said, "It seemed like you were assuming I wasn’t in a relationship"Would it be fine to say, "Naaahhh, every hot girl is in a relationship. Aren't you hot?"?
>>74741976>It seemed like you were assuming I wasn’t in a relationshipnot that anon but my bet is that doors closed budeeh. Cut your losses, u got frndzonedcut your losses
>>74742127RIPPP. Pic related isn't her but she has one just like this on her feed, and the guy in the picture is a different skin colour / race to her boyfriend. So I assumed she was just a slut.
>>74742137bitch probably just likes orbitals around her. If you were hot looking you could still get it but in your situation probably not (i feel u). If you dont really care about keeping a platonic relation with her, just say some shit like, "well I take what I want, taken or not.", It may work, may backfire. Keep me updated.
i'm still cutting, ive fell for the "abs are made in the kitchen" meme and now i have barely any absor maybe i need to cut more ?
No one cares about your butch drama blognigger stfu this is the Leanpill not drama club. Thx
>>74742169Fuck me, I love that line. I am going for it. Hopefully she responds tonight. Otherwise I'll make a thread tomorrow with her response lol.
>>74742173It's a bit of both. But looking good>>74742137Damn, you're a real peace of shit
>>74742173nice physique man, what's your height/weight/lifts?
>>74742173Your abs are equally as under developed as the rest of your body. You need to lift more weights to put more muscle under your skin, there is no point of cutting more when your muscle mass is barely existent. Your whole body looks soft, just baby muscles produced recently. Recomposition is your only option. modify your split or workouts and diet to stay the same weight, but build muscle, do cardio, you look weak.
>>74728184I cut too hard.DEXA showed severe osteoporosis. T scores of -3.30 in the hip and -3.17 in the spine for anyone medicallly inclined.Stay nutritionally covered during a suicide cut. (Is that an oxymoron?)
>30yo>171cm>78kg>spicIve got stronger after 2 months, my stats are 0.375/0.625/1.75/2. I want to lean bulk but fighting the cravings is imposible. Im weak, i try, I failI eat a lot when im anxious, I feel hungry all the time, but there is no food that I know that help me feel full. Please Please Please help me. Please. I just beed food or something that would make me feel full, i kmow i can win if I found this key food. Please.
>>74741341Thank you very much!I've had them for 7 years now.I started it when my hair was just 1cm or so, because it's easier to do when it's short. You can get a "dreadlock sponge". They have them on ebay and amazon. Basically you just brush it against your hair in a circular motion, and it'll make the hair coil up into little sections.You could also do the same thing with a towel when you dry your hair. Just move it in a circular motion to make little spirals in your hair.After that, just don't brush it, and if your hair is naturally curly it'll "matte" or lock up and form into dreadlocks.Once it gets an inch or so, you won't have to do anything to it.I use the "freeform" method, where you just let it grow on its own, and it stays locked up all the time.Basically to make dreadlocks, you just have to let your hair get so nappy that it stays permanently nappy and locks together.The first part is just to get it into sections, so it doesn't all become one giant dreadlock.I wash it few times a week, but it just takes more time because I have to let the water soak into it more, and then it takes a long time to dry, but overall I really love it.
>>74745657>Stay nutritionally covered during a suicide cut. What the fuck did you manage to do?>(Is that an oxymoron?)Not really, cutting is about limiting calories, as long as you don't limit snake juice ingredients for a shorter cut and essential non calorie dense nutrients for a longer one you should be fine
>>74741689Sounds like a (you) problem. I have a robust enough face that looks better when lean than when fatty. Honnold is lean but he looks like a bug, it's a genetics thing
>>74743897Least body dysmorphic /fit/tard>>74742173You look good king, some muscle mass can help, sure, but cutting is what you should do
How do I know if I'm just not eating enough or if I have a medical condition? I eat 2500-3000 calories per day, which is basically my physical disgust limit (could pump those numbers up by 1k easily with excessive soda/beer obviously but that's bad for you), and I've lost 20 lb in the last two years. I just run a few miles a few days per week and I am a skellington at ~155 lb 6'1". I have taken actions to add calories such as drinking whole milk instead of 2%, frying my daily eggs in bacon grease, etc. I just kept getting smaller and thinner until I leveled off around 150-155.Should I go to the doctor or just enjoy my metabolism? I'm 35 so I always figured I would get fat by now with how much I eat. This is not a brag post. I was comfortable and attractive at ~175 and now I feel different.
>>74746781>prime metabolism, probably top 1% genetics for bulking without gaining fat>I just run a few miles a few days per weekI hate you
>>74728184I'm not getting lean
how should I tailor my training and diet around striving to be lean? is 160g protein and lifting 3 days a week for someone looking to lose 100lbs? (currently 300lbs)
Bulking is hard bros. Was closing in on a 2pl8 bench 1rm too but i couldn't keep up with eating 3800cal every single day. Just eating when hungry now and have lost 3kg. Can anyone give a BF% estimate? I'm guessing around 14/15%.>>74746781Im pretty much in the same boat as you, same height and weight. I started from like 58kg lmao and i think at this point the only way for me to grow is by nuking my metabolism and becoming ravenous by short intense cuts to make me want to eat like a fat ass to compensate, adding lean mass little by little. Either that or i stop all physical activity apart from work and lifting to lower TDEE, but that would just make me depressed sitting around for the majority of my free time.
>>74731964ozempic mindbroke all the "lean is king" wankers since now every dude can be lean trivially.
>>74737689>>put on a bit of fat over the last yearshomeostasis gets worse the older you get. it gets harder and harder to maintain leanness.by the time you hit 40 a carb meal will puff you out and make you retain water."moment on hips lifetime on hips"
>>74747198>striving to be lean>300lbsyou should strive to survive til your 40s goddamn, focus on dropping the weight to a normal amount for your height sustainably first THEN think about being lean
Am I getting too lean? I've recently lost some bodyfat but was already 8-9%. I'm still eating basically the same, 3000-3500kcal a day
How do I escape this?it's not quite "skinnyfat" since I obviously got some definition and my bf levels aren't too high, but I'm definitely not noticeably muscular either and I'm not ripped enough to be ottermode.
>>74748378Pretty much my mode, too.6'5 at 1/2/3/4 and apparently 15% bf, although no idea how accurate that measurement is.Nothing I do really changes much about it, seems that I am stuck at this stage.I also don't want to go much higher with my lifts since I already have sport injuries from the past and don't want to make things worse.
>>74728235he does look like a bulgarian meatball, huh
>>74748800If I cut down to Ethiopian mode my hips will stick out even worse, and if I dirty bulk all the fat will go to my hips making it worse.
>>74748378did you fall for the recomp meme? commit to a real bulk and then a cut. Probably takes about 11 months total. Otherwise you'll get stuck in no man's land for years
>>74747597Dude, you look like a road map! Mir’n.
>>74728235bro turned into a manhunt villain
>>74735962Bro wtf is this you literally copied my chest insertions
>>74749615Bro, you're even better than me.At least you got better insertions than me and visible abs.
i maxed out the abdominal crunch machine for 12 reps :D
Im 175cm with 88 kg and i eat around 500g of carba each day. How much carbs should i eat if i wanna lose belly?Im heavy lifting 6x per week plus doing 13km od bike 6x per week but the belly losing process is kinda slow.
>>74728321Whats wrong with the guys insertions jesus christ.Bro lookin kinda deformed..
>>74728321Now post one fully clothed
>>74732607Not him but I'm 5'11 but I still feel like a manlet because of my stocky torso, I think the torso has a larger growth window so I'm hoping I can get a lot taller. Being a leader of any kind will get you more pussy than any skill/talent.
>>74750318its not carbs bub, it's literally as simple as calories in vs calories out. Reduce your calorie intake while trying not to reduce your protein intake and you will lose weight
Bump
>>74728208Low standards
>tfw used to be lean>5'6/120ish>good bmi>now>160~>depression/sluggish zone>don't even know bmi but its the second time I've been this far up>again 100% due to living hereI wish to lose 15-20lbs by the winter, if possible.....
>>74741100>pirate mode
>>74736474very thick limbal rings. fertile
I put on nearly 5lbs in the last 3 days. what the fuck. this is grim
>>74728341The other side of the glory hole
>>74741100nigger
>>74741100Disgusting hair hope that’s a wig or extensions
I read that all you need is 0.8g of protein / kg goal otherwise it hurts hour gains.
>>74755232it's true, because your body assumes you're eating 0.8g of protein / kg of your goal weight, so if this makes you goal weight equal or higher than your current weight, it will make you stay the same or get heavier. simple math really
>>74728184Bros I think I just got a girlfriend, how do I loose fat really really fast?
>>74747371This is what happens when you buy into the "no need to do ab isolations when you do compounds" myth btw
>>74757178Starve and cardio?
>>74750318500g carbs is alot even tho you're very active. I'm very lean and eat 300+ grams of carbs but I would lower your carbs and get them from oats, rice, potatoes, fruits as much as possible
>>74757212Starvio?
Best abs excercices? I think planks are ok but crunches make my back hurt. As that guy up there I thought abs were made in the kitchen and they look funny.
>live in midwest>spend weekend with gf>check /fit/ on Monday>open /lean/>see my selfie posted>mfw finally made it enough to be spammed on /fit/WAGMI BRO's!!!>>74728289>Nile River of abskek>>74733552>how wide absdunnoused to be bricks but somehow they split when i shreddedprobably just need to add more mass to them>>74728321thanks for the rent free space bro>>74742173hypertrophy your abs and they will poke throughspamming body weight squats does not build quadswhy would it build abs?Solid foundation though>>74747597vascular core is ultimate sign of leanmirin>>74748378cardio brobro>>74749615had to check if this was the same dudenicestay with it bro>>74757178>lose fat for gf really fastbike rides and no sugaras always,WAGMI bros
Pretty lean right now, feels like life has only just started. Once I put on 10-15 kg of muscle I’ll be unmoggable
>>74758298You could paddle a canoe through those abs.
I ate too much AGAIN, fuck. I seriously need to start starvemaxxing again
Year apart. Late 20sThink I’m around 72kg here at 182cmMight maintain I’m happy with current Fizeek brosBest general here. Wishing luck to all of you working towards your goals
>>74759811Natty?
>>74760141Clearly natty.I'm 182cm and 86kg. I just need to lose some god damn weight and I'll look peeled
Update, i think i lost about 8kg since my first pic which I'll post next. What bf am i? My watch says 15
>>74760284Pic from 6ish weeks ago
>>74760284>>74760287Face on
>>74760291Ffs, face on
>>74759811What's your workout?
>>74760378Honestly, mostly sex with men, I'm gay for pay an grinder and I'm fucking like 6x a day. I just do a bit of bodyweight at the weekend
>>74758298>triggering the gay rightoids by putting a blue dot over your penisBased
>>74740534Not fat but not lean either.
>>74740534Definition of skinnyfat
>>74760384How long do you fuck?I mean I fuck for 2 minutes and I'm spend and wouldn't even want to think of sex.
>>74761172As long as it takes, generally 30-45 minutes. These faggots really want their money's worth
>>74761386How does this work?Take cialis?
>>74761398I just make it clear I'm only fucking for money. I meet, get paid, fuck, then off to the next one. I make a killing but have no energy, it takes a lot of willpower. Once a day would be ideal but i want more money
>>74761504Gay
>>74728184Idk if I should get lean enough for Muh abs. I think too much abs is ugly.
>>74736474Gotta keep bumping it for more seething
>>74760284>>74760287Is this thread dead? Can i get a reply
>>74728184Hey anons, regardless of the answer I'll continue to lose weight but can I still get a somewhat decent looking body if I lose all my weight but have been fat LITERALLY all 21 years of my life? If not oh well.
>>74762244Only if you lift
>>74754438its a nigger so you know its rubbed in shit
bf percentage estimate?
I don't think I can pull off the leanpill look as a 5'8 manlet.
>>74735657I'm not that guy but when I get that lean I have haggard hollow cheeks, that shit is grim.
>>7476276316-19
>>74728184How the fuck am I supposed to eat a gram of protein for pound? I'm cutting at around 1500 calories but I weight close to 180 lbs.Any recipe ideas that isn't just protein powder?
>>74741440chatgpt bots have infiltrated /fa/
>>74758944Nice work bro, keep going
6'1 and have only done bodyweight + cardio What do? Feel like I'm stuck here and I've gained a little weight since this pickI literally eat less than 1500 calories a day and run Mon-FriHow do I gain without getting fat?>>74748800>>74748836post pics, you sound like you have body dismorphiathere's no way you're at 1/2/3/4 and look like this >>74748378 if so, strength training is a fucking meme and it's stopping me from wasting money on a gym membership
>>74764057You only really need .75g/lb, doesn't have to be strictly 1g/1lbChicken, turkey, eggs, ground beef, tuna, greek yoghurt, oats, nuts and seeds are your friendsThere are many recipes with protein powder other than a shake, btwWhey powder + cocoa + oats + flower + milk + egg + heat = protein brownieGet creative, discovering and cooking food that's high in protein but also tastes good is a fun hobby
>>74764571>Whey powder + cocoa + oats + flower + milk + egg + heat = protein browniesubstitute bananas for sugar and throw on some peanut butter and nuts like almonds on that mf and you have at least 60g of protein per portion plus high energy at low caloriesliterally the snack of the gods
>>74764057>>74764571>>74764598>/lean/ protein shakepic relatedcoffee and sugar free protein powderadd some stevia and you're setelse,skinless chicken and lettuce fat boyeat to your heart's content
>>74764598Me at my leanest, what would you say my BF% was ? 6'1215 there
>>7476464912%-ish.
>>747646496'1 goalzYou look 13%Whats your routine? How long did it take?n-natty?
today's food so far>breakfast: coffee with a tiny bit of cream>lunch: strawberries, a couple slices of watermelon, a handful of roasted potato slices and carrots, a handful of smoked salon, 1/2 cup of 2% milkhow did I do so far? I think skipping dinner could be nice but even if I have dinner as long as I don't pig out I should be good
>>74764706Thanks manAnd no not natty- TRT, 200mg/wk test.I am a BJJ athlete so its basic strength and conditioning work and a lot of cardio from jiu jitsu. Nothing crazy.
>>74764769>And no not natty- TRT, 200mg/wk test.
>>74764788lmfaoo
>start doing cardio from nothing>just hit 5k for the first time last week>abs are visible when they never have been before>feel great, look incredibleI can't believe I listened to tubby powersharters on this board for so long
I am fat.I want to get LEAN as FAST as possible. What crazy ass diet can I do?Optimally I would need to lose 100 pounds to be lean. Id love to be lean by Christmas.
>>74764769roidin for that kek
>>74764828Really roiding for athletic performance. Not looking to look like a bodybuilder.It's how I make a living man
I'm below 200lbs for the first time in my adult life. What the fuck am I supposed to wear? I have like $500 I can spend on clothes but I don't even know where to start. I looked at /fa/ but it's as opaque to me as /mlp/.
>>7476483you a pro athlete brah?
>>74764819100 by Christmas will be a pretty serious stretch. Shoot for 50 and take it seriously. Make a spreadsheet of the shit you eat in a week and see if you can eat at a 1000 calorie deficit. I believe in you, homie.
I get less attention from girls now that I'm leaner kek I look better shirtless but very flat in clothes
>>74764973>look better shirtlessget shirts that fitdon't swim in your clothesshoulder seams should fit the center of your deltspants should fit your waist
>>74764838H&m, grailed, ebay, thrift stores, you don't have to get used clothing but it can give you inspiration.
>>74764838you have to change your wardrobe gradually or you risk getting shit you don't know how to style, getting plain old retarded shit, feeling uncomfortable in your clothes, and looking like a retardo. Given that you were obese I would start with just some jeans that fit your new size and some t-shirts. fuckin thrift them too, you'll save money and won't support the fast fashion jew, plus if you lose more weight you won't have wasted money.Once you have a new (to you) wardrobe that actually fits your new body, then you can think about what sort of styles interest you. One piece at a time works best IMHO. Like say you have your plain jeans and shirts, you get a single item that moves in the direction you want to take your style, but that still works with your current outfits. A polo shirt or an oxford can replace a t shirt but can still work with jeans. A pair of GATs or something can replace regular autist sneakers if you wear those but can also work with something a little more fashion-forward. Over time you'll figure out what you like and by doing it gradually you give yourself time to figure out what you actually want
>>74728184bros I am 5'5" and 130lbs (pls no bully) and I'd estimate myself at maybe 15%bf or very slightly less. I can see my ribs and my abs are just starting to maybe have the slightest shape below the fat. How long would it take me to cut down to 10%bf or to achieve something close to picrel? I know it's probably dumb to compare with a sculpture but this as a manlet would basically be my ideal physique.Where I live it's still warm into october so I'd have time to enjoy being lean and then when it actually gets cold I would probably do a lean bulk.But how long would it take me to cut this far and what sort of stuff should I be doing? I'm currently trying to stay below 1200 calories a day plus lifting a few times a week and cardio most days. Some days I mess up but on my worst day recently I had 1900 calories. My TDEE is about 1700 calories if I'm sedentary, which I am not.Any advice is appreciated
>>74765036>>74765050Thanks, boys.
>>74732719>>74732719>>74732719so new day leanbros, qt personal trainer here we go. guess what happened>packed gym>lifting, minding my business>leanpill plus cialis equals sick pump >also jaw gains from leaness>realize next to me the was some ugly bald roidnigger manlet >paid no attention because lolmanlets>they guy actually yelled, insulted and tried to assault me because I was lifting next to him (lol probably schizo)>had to man up, put him in his place and defend myself because i'm not a little bitch>some dyel gym staff arrived >realize I wasn't gonna win this one but fuck, no ugly bald roidnigger manlet is gonna beat me>use the "do you know who I am?" and "lol ur a broke ass loser" card>noticed how both the manlet and the gym staff got butthurt. badly.>realize I was getting framed so fuck it>move my head>topkek>the very same qt personal trainer next to us, watching the entire ordeal. >just laugh at the situation meanwhile the other two dudes were seething>keep lifting there because fuck him I win, throwing him some banter >manlet went total silent and then dissappeared >fast forward>leaving gym>the gym staff guy said "goodbye, anon">he actually said my name, the creepy fuckerthe thing is: the chick kept staring me after the whole incident. it's like she didn't even cared. or worse, she actually liked it. still, I'm getting my money back from that shitty gym and no pussy is gonna stop me from not going back. I wish I was making this up.
>>74765090no problem anon
Just a daily reminder that WAGMI
>>74764819If you are serious then.. OMAD Carnivore. And don't drink anything on the fasting hours.The fat will melt, your health will PEAk, but the first month will be hard.
>>74765148she obviously thought you were an idiot, god this is why all of you are single.
>>74764815Cardio is the cure?
>>74765333
>>74748378You have some muscle but are still just skinny-mode. If you cut you'll just look like a total DYEL.Commit to a real bulk for 9 months, then cut for 3-4 months and you should look great
>>74765320So many men go from average to chad face just by dropping from 25 BF% to 12%Face gains alone are worth it
>>74766275>real bulk
>>74766241I don't understand the reply. A little bit too thin to my taste, but would.
>The Leangains Method: The Art of Getting Ripped. Researched, Practiced, PerfectedHow accurate and applicable is this?
This is where I need to be.
>>74728184/lean/ breakfast at workIf you're gonna eat fat or carbs, do it in the morningGive your body a chance to burn the caloriesNo midnight snacks
>>74764627>cafe bustelowhy is this slop espresso being pushed so hard? it tastes so bad.just take a caffeine pill instead
https://mennohenselmans.com/ffmi-calculator/Does this help in knowing what I can work on?
>>74764501start eating food, starving yourself with 1500kcal while doing cardio 5x a week is not gonna work. I eat at least 3400kcal a day at 6´1 with 300+g carbs and I'm way leaner than you
>>74760150>Clearly
>>74766275>muh DYEL>skinny-modego back to /cbt, not everyone is a bodybuilder/has body dysmorphia
>>74766237Yes but light. Jog at like 5.5 mph on treadmill for as long as you can, no running
I'm so happy I took the leanpill. I wasn't overweight at all but I went from 170 lbs to 150 (20% bf to pic related) and honestly it was night and day. The female attention I receive quadrupled. I notice people try to gain my approval (including dudes) and everyone is always nice to me. I know a lot of people don't like him but it was Greg Doucette (and Scooby too) who made me realize I didn't need to permabulk in order to get strenght. I was obsessed with getting bigger and that just made my face look much worse than it could. The worst part is I wasn't even fucking fat, I just went from average dude body fat to leaner, and I'm not even super lean.
>>74768275This, running outside it is very hard to not go moderate pace, which is too stressful for ideal weight loss. Running slow on the treadmill feels much more natural.
>>74735450I have those at 19% bfI feel blessed
>>74768468kek sure thanks for the laugh tho
>>74728184Face and skin are top priority for women. If your body fat is too low and test too high your skin will lose the suppleness. Your face will look much older than you are like you are radiated. If you are naturally good at keeping fat then you might go lower with body fat and still retain youthful look.
>>74768275>>74768417Why no running?
>>74768763Light cardio for a long time burns fat, running for short time burns carbs/sugars. Keep your heart rate low. That's not to say that running doesn't burn fat, but for most people that are working out casually and doing heavy weight training the ideal is light cardio. You should be able to carry a conversation during the first several minutes of your jog at least
>>74768763High intensity cardio can impact your muscle recovery much more than low intensity. If you want to get better at running then go for it but most of us are bodybuilders that just want to burn fat
>>74767877Extremely retarded question, but how do you eat more at a deficit without gaining fat after making a lot of progress? I feel full even with this level of calories and when I force myself to eat more I just end up gaining more fat, that a symptom of crashed metabolism?I see what you're saying, though. What kind of diet adjustments do you suggest?>I eat at least 3400kcal a day at 6´1 with 300+g carbs and I'm way leaner than youMetabolisms vary. I'm also focused more on cardio than resistance training. You must be lifting big to eat that much and stay lean, I'm also only reaching 4.5km run at this point, too. What's your routine and typical diet like?Could help if you posted pics, brah
>>74769442FYI I'm bodyweight training 3xweekI start with 4 reps and build up to 12 after reaching new movement progression, reps until failure of last setcurrent:3x10 elevated push up3x1m15s elevated plank3x11 elevated pike push up 3x45s isometric hold in the elevated pike positionordered a dip bench for dips and leg raisesthinking of adding pull upspic is 2.5 months progress from being skinny fat, wish I had pics so my shit doesn't seem entirely pointless
>>74742173Near perfect physique
Guys I’m fat. I want to be lean, I’ll do anything. Cooking up a bunch of chicken now and made a bunch of rice. Upped my steps to 10k+ a day this week going strong. At 285 now, 6’1, need to lose 85lbs. Can and have fasted in the past, did a 7-day feb 1st and was down to like 270 rehydrated. Been eating like crazy ever since. Need some motivation lads. If there’s anything else I can be happy about it’s that my life is nearly perfect aside from my current physical condition. Thank you bros and may good luck shine on you all
>>74769815>I want to be lean, I’ll do anything. Cooking up a bunch of chicken now and made a bunch of rice>I want to be lean>Cooking up a bunch of chicken now>I want to be lean
>>74769815>Lads i want to be lean so I'm cooking a fuck ton of food and going to do the bare minimum walking for a humanLmao
>>74769973>walking
>>74769815>a lardassed firefighterMany such cases.
>>74769900>>74769973You guys against meal prepping or? What should I cook you think?>>74770029Just a dispatcher
>>74770083You should cook less for one and ditch the rice for broccoli, ketofags notwithstanding rice is high in empty calories.Mealprepping is fine but your immediate response to losing weight is cooking food and that mentality is gonna keep you fat
>>74770173Ok, I will start doing just chicken and broccoli and drop the rice, thank you. Also, I think it was just bad timing haha I decided 4 days ago to make a big change and I still have to cook for my family of 5 daily. That moment sitting at the grill was one of my few times I can read and post during the day!
>>74769815>RiceDon't eat any carbs, you need to teach your body how to burn fat, also fat/protein is more filling.
>>74770083Less
>>74765072We're the same height and weight. I plan on going for a cut to about 12-13% BF for 6 weeks to trim a bit of fat and get back some facial gains then go on a gaining phase.
>lost 25kg since the start of the year >finally have visible abs for the first time in my lifeWAGMI
>>74772251I'm not even gonna start gaining myself until the weather actually gets cold. Last year even in november it was in the 70s most days. It only gets colder in the new year and then I'll start mostly clean bulking with a few dirty days here and there.6 weeks looks like it'll also be about how long I would need to drop down to 12%. It feels a bit longer than I would hope but the time will pass anyway, I better make sure I'm lean by then instead of still fat.
Went to see Deadpool (9/10) and managed to reject pizza, popcorn or soda with the boys.This shit better be worth it.
I realized that it's way easier for me to eat in the evening and that once I eat in a day it's easier for me to eat more, so I kind of have to just skip breakfast and lunch by defaultif I have even a small breakfast or lunch it activates my stomach or something and then I'm easily able to blow past my target by dinner
bump wtf
>>74741440you've never had sex
>>74731964I browse this general to try and find a good workout/diet plan to follow
>>74764649Mirin hard
>>74776900ty fren
