been doing PPL and have pretty good gains mass wise, but i want to tone more and have nice delts. never had good delt definition in all my years of fitness. any tips for good workouts to incorporate into my routine?
OHP
>>75122123I just do OHP but think I should be adding laterals or upright rows as well.
>>75122119Tone means lose fat you dipshit. There's no magic lift. Just do more shoulder shit and see what you seem to respond too
Overall OHP, but lateral raises if you’re talking about side delts. Do both
>>75122119https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twLJVfL0iJo&list=PLoMJ2ciqfFnRy1Q_eLMSvGF5sPa7Gm_DB&index=1https://boards.4chan.org/fit/thread/75093860#bottom>>75095570>>75102819>>75091418
>>75122119SPAM LATERAL RAISES! do a few sets as heavy as you can for about 8 reps and after that do lots of racksurfing. do this until your shoulder starts to hurt in a way that is beyond just muscle burn. then you will know you are done. has worked wonders for me. OHP is redundant considering you do ppl.
The best workout is whichever one your body agrees with. Shoulders in particular can be fickle and you need to experiment until you find the things that feel best.
>>75123206post pic of shoulder pls
>>75123238need to take a new shoulder pic soon
>>751221193x12-15 cable lateral raises twice per week. Big ROM, slow and controlled tempo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyOtTMCKTPg&t=285shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVraxVHKAJo&t=209sbtw is this advice legit?
>>75122137No brother, just add more weight to your OHP.
>>75123502>Just overload an already shit exercise so you make it even more front-delts and pecs-oriented
Its the rear delts you should be worrying about, not this other shit
>>75123509Weak shoulders wrote this.
>>75122119>toned Only females and retards use this word. Lose fat to get more definition.Spam lateral raises and rear delts flys (machine and/or cable).
>>75122119You need to include lots of stuff for lateral and rear delts, mine didn't improve until I started to. I really like upright rows. I know they get a bad rep for fucking with your rotators, I've never had any issues with them though. I do them with a really close grip on an EZ curl bar or bands (criminally underrated for isolations), focusing on really pushing my elbows out and up, and never bring my hands up past about nipple height. Lat raises also good. For rear delts I do face pulls, incline DB rows and pull-aparts. All of these for an absolute shitload of reps, sets of 20-30 for a total of around 100, really feel the mind-muscle connection to make sure you're hitting the right thing (very easy for other muscles to take over on side/rear delt stuff), and make sure you've really obliterated them by the time you're done, take them to failure and beyond.>>75123502>just add more weight to your OHPWase of time, won't give you nice juicy delts.
