>doesn't work nearly as much muscle mass as bench or even incline bench>doesn't even work different muscles of bench, just lesswow awesome lift
>>75124358Ok
>>75124358post your body instead of this stock image
>>75124358>doesn't work nearly as much muscle mass as bench or even incline benchwrong>doesn't even work different muscles of bench, just lesswronggreat thread op you fucking retard faggot
OHP is a meme (still do it once a week because it's cool in a retarded way)
>>75124358hello mister jef nipperd, thanks for this awesome thread sir
>>75124376>doesn't work nearly as much muscle mass as bench or even incline bench>wronghow
>>75124358Kill yourself
>>75124384Then what are the best shoulder exercises?
>>75124376Cope
>>75124397OHP and dumbbell shoulder press
>>75124397Front delts - weighted dips my personal favourite, but whatever you do for pecs will doSide - lateral raises, preferably inclinedRear - cable/machine flys
>>75124430post body pls
>>75124376https://youtu.be/ljtwvmHUWcA?si=hakozXaWnXmBg8i1&t=29
>>75124449Mum taught me to avoid thirsty homosexuals, sorry
>>75124397Lu raises
>>75124358get a heavy OHP and then see how it changes your upper body
>>75124402>>75124430>>75124488Thank you
>>75124430>Side - lateral raises, preferably inclined>Rear - cable/machine flysroidtroon routineOHP mogs this shit for natties
Is dumbbell shoulder press as bad as this? Or can I keep doing shoulder press?
>>75124509>Is dumbbell shoulder press as bad as this?as bad as OHP? whats bad about OHP? or are you seriously falling for this thread that this DYEL spams ?
>>75124390>>75124400It targets different muscles you retards, by bringing your arms out to the side it biases the middle delt, much more than any bench variation. This shit is not complicated. Think about which muscles have to pull to raise your arms up. It's an incredible exercise for building shoulder size, it just is. There's no discussion here, it has been tried and tested for years and the only reason I can think of why anyone would say otherwise is a thinly veiled demoralisation attempt. Utteraly idiotic to not do these if you want big shoulders
>>75124430>lateral raiseslol
>>75124506>OHP>Rear delts
>>75124520I don't fucking know. I'm not an exercise scientist.
>wow awesome lift
Hijacking this shit thread since OP is a faggot. What are the best shoulder accessory lifts, assuming i already do OHP and arnold press? I've been doing front raises, but i kinda feel like they don't really hit like they should.
>>75124585Upright rows, lateral raises, reverse flies. All you need on top of OHP
>>75124534yeah but it doesn't work more muscle CSA as bench. i can bench a set of 17 reps with my 1rm ohpif you read what was posted you would've seen that we werent talking about shoulders but total muscle
why does this place suck the cock of ohp so muchits literally just a shoulder lift lmao
>>75124430Telling someone to dip for delts is like telling someone to bench press for delts.>lateral raisesNever mind, I wasted my time even typing this. You're retarded.
>>75124585front raises are a waste of time
>>75124358i feel so strong every time i do overhead press. one of my favorite exercises unironically
>>75124694> if you read what was posted you would've seen that we werent talking about shoulders but total muscleThis is stupid though isn't it. OHP is FOR shoulders. Deadlift hits more muscle than every other exercise but it's fucking shit for growing your biceps.And OHP definitely works different muscles than bench.
>>75124798
OHP Barbell or Dumbell Rear delt flys bent over or chest supportedchest supported Y lateral raisesfinish off with Lu raises if you wantThank me later
>>75124358purest measure of upper body strength to ever exist
>>75124801What thread was this in? It reads like it should be from the 2010s, I like it.
>>75124358Found the deltlet
>>75124715It's like a primal Conan movement. It is an absolute show of dominance and control over something to lift it over your head. Of course (You) are not vril enough to understand.