>15 years natty lifting for this
>>75217670So demoralizing
>>75217670Kek i've only been lifting for 1 year and i'm bigger than him. Why even lift as a natty
>>75217688Post body
>>75217670If I woke up looking like that I'd literally kill myself
>>75217670what is happening here
>>75217670He should really shave that beard, makes him look like a medi
>>75217709was he the Greek one or was it the red bearded bulked guy ?He looks med as fuck desu with the beard
Any kind of lifting for aesthetics is a humiliation ritual.You are never going to be big enough. You are going to look like a stick DYEL for years, you can add a little to your volume, little by little, it's never going to be enough. And when you get the right steroid cocktail with the perfect gains, you'll suddenly look like a clown freak. There is no in-between.Pursuit of big muscles is pure vanity with no rewards at the end. You will never get the happiness and the big aesthetics improvement that you had with your newbie gains.
He looks great.Go to sleep OP.Stop masturbating.
who mogs nh or wolf
>>75217729>sleepim going to the gym in 20 minutes buddy
>>75217717it's the other guy yea
>>75217729Okay let's not pretend a 6'2, 10%bf, 23 FFMI guy with full head of hair looks "great"
>>75217703She looks Indian
>>75217762it looks like she’s airing out her flaps
I look worse and I’ve been lifting for 20 yearsI’m strong as fuck though It’s weird I see myself in the mirror with a DYEL frame as if I just came of the street never having lifted a weight in my life, then I dumbbell press 50kg dumbbells for reps lol
>>75217670Looks good.He needs to shave the soibeard though
>15 years natty lifting to build a great and impressive physiquesounds good
Forearm training motivationBig biceps small forearms/wrist look bad
>>75217709>>75217717Should I fucking shave my beard? Why do beards get so much hate here?
>>75218109Because they are youth chasing hylics who don't care about God's design.
>>75218109Dont shave it but reduce the thickness. It goes to far past your face and makes you look a little off. Maybe just trim the ends cleaner and see how it looks
>>75218109lmao what a shitty beard, this is the average 4/10 looks /fit/izen who thinks he will 'make it'
>>75218109you can either have a thick beard and clean short hair or long and thick hair and a clean short beardboth makes you look somewhat homelessit's all about contrasts
>>75218134Do I really look unkept? Even with the physique? >>75218121What shaver do you recommend from Amazon?
>>75218152I dont have a recommendation sorry. I honestly dont think it matters.
>>75217703aurora borealis
>>75218152>Do I really look unkept? Even with the physique?kinda feels like iti'd go with a shorter haircut
>>75218109>Why do beards get so much hate here?søychildren ruined the beard reputation
>>75218152Stop caring about what these retards think, you look fine
>>75218109Yes, you should. I used to think big beards looked cool when I was dwarfmaxxing but girls find it disgusting and they will think you have no hygiene. Only men will compliment you and think it's cool. Since I've noticed that I just keep it trimmed with 3mm and it gets me more female attention.
>>75218109>He's genuinely asking for advice on /fit/ngmi
>>75218174Mate, we all care what others think, if it looked good, I wouldn’t be getting so much hate and /fit/ is the most attractive board cause of the lean pill. >>75218170Kinda true but what about chads in the NFL>>75218168>short hair Well pic rel is 2 years ago when I had short hair but the beard was smaller as well. But I was leaner I think there. What do >>75218187What you just said makes perfect sense, met with a girl I had a thing with a few days ago and she told me she prefers me shaven. Also you look good did you trim it alone or barber? Also can I go with higher guard?
>>75218201>if it looked good, I wouldn’t be getting so much hatePlease tell me you're trolling
>>75218201I bought a trimmer online and just do it at home for the most part it's pretty easy. You can start with 6-9mm and see if it's too short then maybe go down if it's still too full. Sometimes I'll straight up just 1mm it and let it grow, that 1 week look is the most sharp imo but doesn't last long.
>>75218201>she told me she prefers me shaventhis is an unironic shit test to see if you'd change yourself for the whims of your woman which would mean lost respect on her partyou should go for even shorter haircuts
fuck the hoes keep the beard be a fucking MAN! but you can give it a light trim, but>>75218187 s Picrel is too short
>>75218225>>75218222Fuck forgot pic on two years ago >>75218222Trips of truth forgot to clarify that she haven’t seen me for two months and it’s the longest length I have my hair and she was trying to process me, I fucked her tho so it’s good.
>>75218264That size is better but I would go even shorterOnly specific girls actually like big beards, and they are those alt ones who are into rock n roll but have daddy issues and bpd
>>75218264this is a good hair length and it would go well with the dense beard you have now
>>75218267https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7029899/read this, it's interestingand yes it is autistic
>>75218267Even shorter beard or hair? >>75218278> While women's preferences for clean-shaven and fully bearded faces differ over studies, studies using stimuli with a wider range of facial hair amounts reported that stubble is judged as most attractive [25,26,109,110]. In contrast to craniofacial masculinity, men can also groom, shape or remove their facial hair entirely, It’s settled by science guys. Next thread
>>75217670Are you implying he doesn’t look good?
>>75217670is this supposed to be a demoralize thread because this dude looks great and you nor the other demoposters have posted body yet
>>75217670Kill yourself demoralising IDF jew
>>75217670Do not be demoralized gentlemen. This definitely did not take 15 years and I was already old when I started. Track macros, hydrate, sleep and lift to failure.
bvmp
>>75217670goal physique except his left arm is bigger than the right
>>75217670Cuz he fell for the lean memeHe'd be +30lbs of lean mass if he stayed @~15% bf most of the time and cut only for pics
>>75218164At this latitude? Concentrated in this gym, entirely at the thot machine???
>>75218445you definitely took roids faggot
>>75218445Goals, miring.
>>75217670Post body
>>75217670Not natty
>>75218445>he thinks the redness doesn't give it away
>>75218768You cannot demoralize me. In fact you make me stronger. >>75218834Thanks bro you got this.
>>75218768I had this physique in high school. You probably just have shit genes.
>>75218445>that gay ass tattoo
>>75219116I’ll give you that.
>>75217670Looks good to me
>>75217670He's 6'3 and lean, you have some crazy expectations if you don't think he looks good
>>75218109no keep the beard anonI was not in intention to hate beards I just asked why Dr Milo looks med while being belgian in ancestry the beard and dark hair just make him off looking for his ethnicity your beard is thick and grows good
>>75217720anon, you are mentally ill.
>>75217670he looks goodstill wrong about lengthened partials and fatigue though
>>75217670>he works out solely for the vain purpose of looking at himself in the mirrorthe mental benefits of exercise are more important than having 12% body fat
>>75219463I've heard all about the lengthened partials, but what does this guy say about fatigue?
>>75218445why roid fags keep pretending they get gains naturally. Just admit it or its just trying to forget about life ruining side effects
>>75218760...yes
>>75219829May I see it?
>nattyBigger than Scoobert? Not natty. Simple as.
>>75219795You’ll never know how good it feels to have someone unable to comprehend that your gains are natural while being natural.
>>75217688you are not. post body retard.
>>75217670>bigger than 95% of peopleseems pretty good desu
>>75218133Post face
>>75217670could be worse, that dom guy from bro science has been lifting for 15 years and looks dyel as fuck.
>>75218264Που σαι ρε μαλακα
>>75218187you have a lot of areas that are inconsistent in length, id recommend looking for a better trimmer and a thinner comb to push the strands out better for a more even cut
>>75220944also good advice for beard noobs, cordless is a dead end with batteries dying out and become wasted money after a year or twoat least the newer products by babyliss and moser seem like serious products with good quality
>>75218445roidfag
>>75217720you don't get "magically" huge with roids, unless you actually try hard to get huge.
>>75217703She's about to slip off the seat and drown in a pool of her own juices
>>75220751Μαλακα ποιος είσαι; >>75219365Thanks bro I kept it, was about to shave but my razer broke down
>>75217720> statue of DavidWho needs more? Very attainable and highly lust provoking to the lady folk. I've never looked quite as good as King David's marble statue and yet, I've had some of the sexiest women I've ever met in real life tell me I'm "gorgeous" and "ridiculously hot". Maybe they're lying or maybe I just have the perfect face. I don't think either is true. When a man looks at a woman he wants to see that she is physically sexy. Her beauty defies reality. When a woman looks at a man though, she wants to see that "he" controls his reality, a fit by is an extension of that, but not a necessity. I have seen beautiful women lick their lips at a fat man's butt because "he's so much man". Are they deluded? Sure. But never underestimate a woman's ability to delude herself, she can do it for life. This is why you obtain nothing when you lift for looks, but gain everything when you yourself are fit.
>>75219591basically that fatigue is not much of an issue(it is) and that more volume is basically always better(it isn't)
>>75218109beardlet cope
>>75218445How long have you been lifting at the time of these two pics?Mirin' btw.
>>75218445Those veins on your arm are making my dick twitch, and everything looks so hard and fullI want to look that good somedayNo homo btw
>>75221346Really? I don't remember him ever saying that fatigue straight up isn't a thing. Though I do remember him promoting this one study that found gains continued to increase up to like 100 sets training a *single* muscle, while understating that there was literally zero ecological validity to it because fucking nobody ever actually trains like that.
>>75217758>10%no, more like 15-18%>23 FFMI>but muh tallnot an excuse, especially not at 6'2". I'm 6'7" and have proportionally much bigger arms nattyno, closer to 21. Arms look sub 16"
>>75221629last part referring to >23 FFMIof course. Guy has stick arms, probably 200 lbs during his "lean" state (15% bodyfat) and 170-175ish when he's actually 10%
do they not make roids for hand growth?please tell me this is shopped, he’s worse than henry cavil
>>75221670you've got it backwards. his hands are normal sized but his forearms are super long, making the hands look smaller. meanwhile cavill has SHORT arms and yet his hands still look small. that's how you know they really are small.
>>75217720nigga you need jesus and a hug
>>75221716his hands are nowhere near normal size they’re like baby doll hsnds
>>75221409I lifted for 6 months back in the early 2010s on deployment where I had some nice noobie gains. Until I started to lift again 1.5 years ago I maybe did a total of 12 months broken into 3 or 4 stints. Just small home gym stuff. Never stuck with it because I’d drink and not see the results I had from my deployment time. The first pic was my baseline 175-180 drinking non-lifting self. >>75221471Train hard, sleep and count macros. You got this, brother.
>>75218133>this is the average 4/10 looks /fit/izenyou remind me of the time Rehab Room read about a "4/10" criminal fucking a woman in prison and it went against his whole philosophy
>>75217703her balls are slipping out
>>75218899In another thread he claimed the localized redness in his upper chest and neck was caused by tanning kek.You gotta be really desperate for validation to fake natty on an anon Mongolian basket weaving forum
>>75218109depends on your jawline. are you hiding a small jaw underneath? then keep the beardBut yeah you do look unkempt in this picture, you should get a barber you can trust to trim it evenly at the very least
>>75217670Body dysmorphia on this cursed board is limitless. 90% of men have an Adam Sandler build, just by having slightly bigger biceps and pecs you're already better
>>75217670Considering that one of the prominent leaders of their group of "evidence-based fitness", Eric Helms, is someone who openly has a history of PED use, yet identifies as natty anyway, competes as natty, and has a physique still in the realm of "natty attainable" despite having used PEDs, I wouldn't expect Wolf or anyone else in their group with a well-developed physique to actually be natty.This group is shady, questionable and likely not much different to any other grifting association, despite the phds and published research. They're professionals who are about the money like everyone else.
>>75217709I think he's hiding a cleft lip
>>75217670Looks a bit too Indian...
>>75218109Depends
>>75223037nah i have cleft lip and his nose is way to symmetrical desu
>>75217720who benefits from coming onto a board for a topic and then proceeding to attempt to demoralize people about that topic?this isn't even a /fit/ problem I've seen this kind of demoralization garbage on several boards now.
>>75223051kek
>>75218109Because it's often a cope to look more manly when you have jaw or chin and/ or bald.
>>75223089*no jaw or chin
>>75217670he looks pretty ripped and lean to me
>>75221670Why the fuck are his thumbs inside his fists?
He looks way better here than in most of his videos. I'm pretty sure nobody on here looks better than this, unless they are on life threatening doses.
>>75217670tall and long limbs. you will not struggle like he does if you are short and/or have short limbs
>>75217670bros how do firearms get like this? Is it genetic like calves?
>>75224999What are you talking about? His forearms are skinny as fuck.
>>75225292Obviously I'm asking how it's possible that the rest of his body grew and his forearms stayed the same size.
>>75225312most likely strap over usage
>>75217688
>>75225489Strap usage is fine, and in fact good so you can maximize back stimulus without being limited by your forearms. But then you need to do forearm isolation too. His physique is what happens when you don't do that, but it's not a flaw of using straps.
