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Threadly reminder.

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>when you're eating significantly more calories than the bottom of OP pic but still losing fat

>>75326408
t. 400 lbs king

>>75326408
I think that image is aimed at women, anon

instead of ordering junk food i bought a rack of pork ribs to make at home
still kind of cheating but an improvement

I wanna give 2 to 3 days fasts a try again, should I do cardio or weights while fasting? I can shift around so either would be fine, but I wonder which is recommended? Do weights to minimise muscle loss or keep the weight training for after when I break the fast?

>>75326455
lift heavy weights, just don't worry about increasing the weight like normal
you definitely don't want to do cardio while fasting are you retarded

I'm going to do my daily feast on animal products (meat, a stick of butter, fish, salt in a generous portion, and eggs) again and show the results of counting calories. I'm doing this every day, so I have to stress that it's odd that calories in/out isn't properly working as this OP says it should. I should be gaining weight consistently by being in an ~1,000 calorie surplus, but scale goes down. No parasites that I'm aware of, either. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm saying that what I eat matters more than the mass of the food(calories), from my observations. Maybe it's different for you? I'm type 2 diabetic, so I should be having a worse time, theoretically, but things are looking better daily and I get to eat until I'm stuffed without issue, not getting hungry again until the next day.

This type of diet is The Carnivore Diet, for those wondering. It's not the quickest weight loss method, but it's certainly not something I would want to end

>>75326509
>but scale goes down
nope, for you it does not

>>75326392
FUCK YOU bring back the cute fat loss anime nuns and ducks.

>>75326515
the nuns trying to make the ducks lose weight hasn't been a thing in years, twitter probably complained about it being fatphobic or some shit, now it's just random and ever increasingly retarded lore dump

>>75326521
please do not address me when you're in the middle of one of your schizophrenic ramblings, alright?

>>75326523
but i would never be able to address you then, i'm a walking bundle of schizo ramblings held together by diet soda

>>75326530
Narcissist*

>>75326509
>I have to stress that it's odd that calories in/out isn't properly working as this OP says it should.
Yes it is. Assuming you're being truthful about your weight loss then you're expending more calories than you're ingesting.
>I should be gaining weight consistently by being in an ~1,000 calorie surplus
You're obviously not in a surplus though or you'd be gaining weight. Why do you think you're in a surplus?

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>>75326512
Yet the scale does go down, no matter how much you believe it shouldn't.

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>>75326552
Oh, I don't actually believe in calories, I'm just proving a point. Pic related is a typical day's meal. (Yesterday's)

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>75326509
>t.

Fatty Contest
dman
94.9kg

>>75326559
Calories are a unit of measurement, saying you don't believe in them it's looking saying you don't believe in kilograms or inches. Not sure what point you think you're proving other than you used an app to give you a TDEE calculation.

Right, but shouldn't it be a straight slope upwards if this is my typical meal and calories are correct? Why is it going down tens of pounds for weeks to months? Also, why do so many people require medication to feel satiated just to lose weight if it's juat overeating? Surely the body wouldn't handicap itself on overeating eating what it's designed to eat.

Fatty Contest
SlobberinFatso
94.7kg
188cm

>>75326556
>Over 300lbs
>Thinks anyone should take him seriously regarding nutrition
Lmao

>>75326590
Right, but those are different from dietary calories. Try to understand that there's nuance to this topic. They're not even close.

>>75326595
You don't have to, I'm just pointing out something fascinating. I'm not making things up

>>75326392

I got so fat I stopped being able to wipe my own ass when I went to shit. It's going to take me at least 2 years of hard dieting to be normal again.

>>75326597
They're not different. You just have a warped view of how you're supposed to interpret and utilise them.

Have 10 or so lbs left to lose and I'm just gonna do alternate day fasting or maybe rolling 48s if I feel like it. I'm already hungry all the time in a deficit so it can't be much worse and hopefully it accelerates the loss so I can be done with this shit sooner

>>75326599
Dude, you're over 300lbs, of course you're going to lose weight as soon as you stop eating like an absolute fat pig. Even on almost 4000kcal a a day you're going to be below what's required for maintenance. The fact you think this is "fascinating" shows how deluded and ignorant you are.

>>75326601
if you don't start today, one year from now you'll be AT BEST still two years from normal, but probably much worse

Lost 15kg using liraglutide (basically ozempic, just a different agonist) and then it stopped working. By that I mean the hunger suppression and near disdain for food went away. It's super expensive so I just stopped using it. Kinda sucks cause it was easy mode.

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Even though im significantly lighter than this time i still hate myself and let fat brain take over and stuff my face full if shit even when im full to the gills i still go back to cupboard and eat anything that can be eaten. I dont know how to progress from here. Being thinner hasnt improved my life all that much, if anything im more depressed.

>>75326620
unironically get therapy

>>75326620
For me binging is basically caused by a lack of pleasure/dopamine release/fulfillment in other parts of life. Food is an instant dose of pure pleasure, both mental and physical so it makes sense that it'll fill that void. I've not been able to improve my life so that other things can replace binging so I've just had to go with brute force self-control.

>>75326618

I'm about 2 months into low calorie diet + 1mg weekly semaglutide injections. Fatfuck T-shirts starting to get baggier...

>>75326625

The only way to replace an addiction in your life long term is to introduce adventure to your life that is at least as thrilling as previous addiction.

>>75326615
Cool, the OP's method that I'm following doesn't work. Can you show me the "real" calorie counting method you have up your sleeve?

>>75326689
>Yet the scale does go down, no matter how much you believe it shouldn't.
>>75326689
>the OP's method that I'm following doesn't work.
make up your mind, are you losing weight or not

>>75326689
You adjust intake based on your measurements. If you aren't losing weight, you keep decreasing it until you are. That's when you know you're in a deficit. Understand?

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>>75326692
>>75326710
So how am I supposed to gain weight? I seemingly can go over 1,000 calories daily of the TDEE found via the OP and I still lose bodyfat eating just meat fish salt butter and eggs. Calories don't seem to matter, even if they are just an inadvertent proxy measurement of mass if the three nutrition facts label macronutrients with a carbohydrate/protein bias.
That's my point.

>>75326724
youre either not counting calories properly or are underestimating you tdee

>>75326732
Then the OP is wrong. Please show me a functioning model.

>>75326724
>So how am I supposed to gain weight?
By eating more.
>I seemingly can go over 1,000 calories daily of the TDEE
You're 300lbs you fucking retard. All tdee calculators just give your an approximation but were made with normal people in mind, not hamplanets

>>75326739
it works for literally everyone except you, because you are the dumbest person in this thread, the model is good it's just a skill issue on your part

>>75326742
I'm under 300 lbs.
>>75326743
So calorie counting just doesn't seem to work! Fascinating.
Okay, we're done discussing in circles, I'll be back with my food + the exact calorie measurements again.

>>75326754
Perhaps if you were to adopt a carnivore diet, you'd also not have to starve yourself aiming under TDEE. I simply cannot eat more than what I do now and the fat is still melting off, even eating a stick of butter and all of the rendered tallow out of the pan daily.

>>75326739
there will always be an inherent margin of error when estimating how many calories you burn beyond your BMR. you could try wearing a HR monitor to figure out how many calories you burn from exercise but that also has error margins. in general the only real way to estimate tdee is to count calories and monitor your weight. if you aren't gaining weight you're eating at your TDEE and so forth.

>>75326747
>calorie counting just doesn't seem to work
If works for everyone that uses it correctly. You're a fat, retarded piece of shit though.

>>75326769
Unless diabetes and metabolic disease are secretly a boost to the metabolism instead of the detriment, I doubt I'm exercising enough to matter. My job is not demanding.

>>75326781
ok then see >>75326776

>>75326781
I don't care about this dumb argument but your name pisses me off. The Fish and Salt are redundant. Fish is meat, and everyone eats salt.

>>75326791
I make sure to get meat that isn't fish and extra salt not just inside of the meat. My name is the meal I typically have. Meat (usually beef at about 2 lbs), Fish (typically salmon about 15 ounces), salt (I heap it on my meat, fish, and eggs), butter (a stick a day, minimum, into my food, not as cooking fat. I tend to use lard for cooking fat.), and eggs (hardboiled preferred, typically at least half a dozen or so)
I also add Lugol's Solution 5% 4-8 drops a day, but that's just in case and a relatively more recent addiction and I don't think it does anything exciting.

>>75326824
No wonder you're so fucking fat lol

>>75326824
Be careful on that diet. My friend did pretty much the exact same thing (carnivore keto) and ended up in the hospital with gallstones.

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>Consistent slow burn to lose 2kgs over a month..
>have 2 beers yesterday, +1kg

ok god, fuck you too then

>>75326836
it's water weight who gives a shit

>>75326839
I give a shit because today is the day of the week i log my weight in my excel

I actually modified my excel today so it takes my weekly average to ensure this doesn't happen again

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>tfw just curosry tracking of macros not even bothering to be strict just guesstimating based off my experience
>tfw walking 5 hours a day
>tfw weight is flying off and it's mostly fat according to renpho scale
based

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>>75326831
Thanks for the warning, but those only become an issue if you already had them and they shrink enough to finally slip through. I've eaten enough fat at this point that it's safe to say I don't have them.

>>75326747
>I'm under 300lbs
You literally posted your weight yesterday and you aren't. Can you go 5 seconds without lying? Your gonna start editing fatty Contest entries again next.

>>75326893
I measured today minutes before that post.

>>75326889
that looks like fucking vomit, god you're so disgusting it beggars belief

Guys do you just have to eat a lot of vegetables to lose weight if you have the problem where you never want to be hungry? My goal is to never be hungry but still be somewhat lean.

>>75326876
Good job, anon

>>75326895
Sure you did, just like your larp post the other day when you claimed you lost 34kg in the last 3 months. You just lie constantly.

>>75326902
I find that it helps if you pair it with proteins. If I just eat some carrots and celery with hummus or some shit it doesnt really do anything. If I triple the amount of roasted carrots I have with some chicken it helps. You should be eating a lot of vegetables regardless cause it's good for you.

>>75326905
To be fair, I measured yesterday after I ate and today before I ate. Both post-work end-of-day measurements

>>75326915
To be fair I don't care what you say, you're a known lying fuck. Who also edits fatty Contest entries, truly a disgusting being.

>>75326920
TheObeseBrit.

>>75326924
Yeah you edited his and certified turtles entries for hours yesterday. We all had the displeasure of watching your schizo meltdown all day.

>>75326920
Speaking of which. How's using your phone to post? Must be annoying

>>75326928
What are you on about?

>>75326929
I'm TheObeseBrit. I'm just about to submit my extreme weight gain again. Just gotta shitpost and edit other peoples entries for the 50th thread in a row because I'm a friendless loser on Mounjaro.

>>75326933
You are actually insane aren't you. You do realise other people use this general right? Other people had yo see your several hour long meltdown in the last thread. And now in this one you're already shitting it up and larping about your weight.

>>75326938
Interesting, you seem to know I'm not actually TheObeseBrit. Gee, who is the sole person who would know that for certain? You are a really low IQ narcissist.

>>75326940
My first reply to you was you using your trip, which you've now taken off to hide yourself? Too bad your insanity comes across, trip or not.

>>75326938
Post scale, fatty.

>>75326590
Your hormones have a far greater effect on body composition than minor adjustments in calories like this. Which is why these trackers are stupid. You could eat meat and eggs to satiation, without tracking anything and you'd lose bodyfat purely as a result of hormonal adaptations, and you might even be able to accomplish this eating slightly more calories.

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so, so proud of myself. after weeks of binge eating, I'm back to restricting again and I saved a day's worth of calories. As for my weight, goal is 72 lbs and right now I'm 98. I'm short tho (around 4'9") so I'm still looking very fat... anyway, I know I should probably cut on carbs and eat more protein but I mostly just eat the same stuff aaall the time. oh and I also don't do any workout as I want to loose weight first. Is it ok? any other advices?

>>75326938
If you have the awareness to see this guy is insane then you know there's nothing to gain by engaging with him. I listened to Terrence Howard on JRE and it's the exact same thing, just a mentally ill wretch who has convinced himself of nonsense talking in circles and trying to convince people who are humoring him out of kindness/interest/frustration. Toilet brain crackhead shit like a dude babbling to himself outside a salvation army, pretend he doesn't exist like you do for them

>>75326956
>samefagging
You know I could see you doing that in the last thread's archive, right? You're so easy to read

>>75326962
Did you take your trip off so you could samefag? That's really sad.

>>75326964
Why don't you parasite yourself on another community? Does not having friends really mean you have to stick to anonymity? You have nothing to lose. Go out there and live your life instead of pretending like you're clever to fat people.

>>75326970
Put your trip back on, so you can't larp and samefag. You won't though.

>>75326974
Why are you ban evading?

>>75326974
See
>>75326949

>>75326980
Like I said before, plenty other people use this general. Plenty other people saw your schizo fest in the last thread. You think I'm whoever you like, I don't care.

Is there any other diet besides just tracking to lose weight? I get CICO but I’m never full, always hungry. I counted for a month and only ate what I was supposed to track like 5 total days. I didn’t lose or gain cause I was still under TDEE. My body just naturally wants to be 20lbs overweight.
How the FUCK do I fix this shit?

>>75326984
Yeah, sure buddy, just keep repeating a line that you were already outed on. You thought you would never get caught but you did. Really, you did it to yourself. Narcissists never take responsibility for their actions, however, so here you are, again, ban evading, again.

>>75326989
Cut out all carbs or as much as possible.

>>75326990
OK, you think that. Atleast I'm not a tripfag who takes his trip off and then tries to be other people. Good job on shitting up another thread, you must be proud.

>>75326989
>I counted for a month and only ate what I was supposed to track like 5 total days.
Well, there’s your answer right there, Einstein. You "tracked" your calories for 5 out of 30 days and you're surprised it didn’t work? Incredible detective work. Must’ve been real hard keeping up with that extensive tracking routine.
>My body just naturally wants to be 20lbs overweight.
Yeah, sure, buddy. It’s not the fact you probably ate an entire pizza in one sitting because you “deserved it.” It’s your special body’s fault. Totally not that extra bag of chips you convinced yourself wouldn’t hurt your diet. Nah, your body is just built different. Nature has cursed you to forever roam the earth 20 pounds overweight, a tragic hero of our time.
>How the FUCK do I fix this shit?
Idk, maybe actually stick to your plan for more than 5 days out of 30? Or just accept your fate as a Cheeto dust-covered blob. Your call.

>>75326999
You're worse. You're a serial troll, a loser with no friends, over 280 lbs despite being under 6 feet tall, and you're probably not even british. What else are you lying about? Who knows...

>>75327005
Yeah, mate, I might not be British, but you don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to see you’ve spent more time crying over this post than you’ve spent in the gym.

>>75327005
>>75327011
So your replying to yourself, pretending to be me replying as someone I'm not? This is some peak level schizo shit.

>>75326950
That's a separate issue, you retard. Tracking calories and bodyweight and adjusting accordingly is something people do when they're already consistently eating the same kinds of foods. Using this method reliably allows people to get down to single digit bodyfat percentages. You fat, lazy retards manage to drop a few pounds and suddenly think you're experts on weight loss, no realising at your level of obesity it's incredibly easy to lose weight by changing almost anything about your atrocious eating habits. You also completely lack self discipline (why you got so fucking fat in the first place) so of course you tried the cico approach once and failed miserably but made excuses ("calories aren't real!") rather than take accountability for it.

>>75326416
I thought the same and immediately realized they would ignore the point and just take offense instead

>>75327023
Imagine typing this novel to flex about calorie counting, lmao.

Like, congrats, you can use MyFitnessPal and somehow think that makes you a fitness guru. Bro, you're out here acting like dropping from 300 lbs to 295 makes you some shredded Greek god. But sure, tell us more about how you’ve unlocked the secrets of single-digit body fat, all while eating the same chicken breast and broccoli for the 10th week in a row. Keep coping, champ. Maybe one day you'll lose enough weight to see your toes again.

>>75326989
Semaglutide, t3, ephedrine

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>>75327000
I tracked 30 days but I was only compliant 5 of them. Sometimes I’d be 10 over, sometimes 300 over. Sometimes I’d be 500 under if I just wasn’t hungry or too busy to eat. Overall it seemed like protein was the biggest problem. Seems like I can’t get 190g of protein unless I drink shakes and stay hungry, go way over on calories.
Like how do you fight the urge of just being constantly starving?
I’m 195lbs and my macros are picrel
>>75326998
I’ve tried cutting out carbs but then I have no energy for lifting, even on preworkout I end up doing 4/5th of what I usually do.

>>75327031
Your reply makes no sense. I'm 180lbs and have never been over 15% bodyfat. I use cico to get under 12% for summer. The 300lbs fatasses are the ones pretending cico isn't real because they lost 5lbs of water on their meme diet

>>75327000
>>75327040
Btw I’m not “surprised” it didn’t work, I’m saying it’s hard to stay full and I end up going over my limits.

>>75326953
either post your skeletal tits or remove your infertile existence from this thread and the world in general

I'm about a week into the keto diet and I'm not feeling hungry and only eat about 2 small meat meals(about 600 calories combined) a day and was wondering if consuming so little calories can negatively affect my health?

>>75327040
I suggest eating a lot more eggs if you can stomach it. They're rich with protein and if you eat the whole one, you'll feel fuller. If you're trying to balance gaining strength, you'd have to sacrifice about 4-12 weeks of progress to get fully fat adapted the first time, roughly, depending on your metabolism. Not recommended unless you don't mind not gaining much in improvements until you are adapted. I lack the experience to suggest anything else, so I hope this helps in some way.

>>75327056
For a short period of time you should be fine, but a prolonged extreme deficit can be harmful.

>>75327056
Depends on how fat you are, also it's hard to get all electrolytes, vitamins and minerals you need in 600kcals worth of food.
You can do it for some time, but I wouldn't do it longer than X weeks.

>>75327056
I felt the same on keto and lose a bunch of muscle during COVID. Try to make sure you’re getting enough protein and working out still or you will wither away.

>>75326601
how fat are you? 500 lbs?

>>75326601
That's awful. Good luck to you.

Too hungry to fall asleep, but if I eat now then I'll just be hungry again when I wake up and won't be able to have a large enough meal before bed again.

>>75326398
it's never to late to try fasting/starving for a few days

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>>75326583
Hahahaha is that his actual progress? He's been shilling carnivore diet and posting progress and that is it?

Fatty Contest
FatGermanFuck
96.5kg

Vacation is killing me, fatbros. I just lie on my ass all day, stuffing my face with junk and watching the scale go up...
Everytime I'm out of my regular work schedule, be it because of vacation or because of sickness, I immediately lose all discipline. What is wrong with me?

Fatty Contest
RamMan
251.6

>>75327193
I am Bürgi and never worked in my life.
I only have motvation when I dont work and can sleep and train whenever I want lol.
You are crazy.

>>75326902
That's like step 1 for weight loss. Stuff yourself with high fiber low calorie foods, that prevents you from eating other kinds of foods. In other words: veggies and fruits no limit, rather force at least a pound a day as early in the day as possible!

>>75326909
It takes a day for fiber effect to kick in because that's how long it takes to go full track through intestintes. Keep the large intestine fed with fiber at all times to not be so hungry. Consistency is the key!

>>75327187
Interpreting the chart might require the entire thing. Then again, the dogmatic teachings of the general /fit/ population tend to keep those who don't know what I'm doing ignorant. Like archons making their hylic puppets dance

>>75327222
But you're a fat fuck getting ever fatter, that doesn't require more interpretation.

>>75326724
Fatty Contest
JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs
297 lbs

Before I forget, I meant to update my weight to better reflect reality. I'm ~18 pounds lighter than when I began in December of 2022. I'm glad I didn't give up and came back after all of these months.

>>75327199
don't they cut the bürgi pretty quickly now when you refuse job offers? what are your secrets?

>>75327233
>Started at over 300lbs
>Almost 2 years dieting
>Only lost 18lbs
Lmao kys you fat idiot

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>>75326392
From a purely "organization/adherance/consistency" point of view, is it alright to just do half or more of your calories as casein powder + milk + full fat yogurts?

When I try to eat a variety of food my consistency goes to pure shit and I get this and that and it just ends up being fucked.

The only way I can strictly hit my calories is if I limit myself to only 3-4 kinds of foods total but it's pretty much suicide for me to just eat chicken and rice. I'd 100% much rather have like 800 calories worth of shakes and yogurt and then another 700 calories of a sandwich.

>>75326392
I'll confess, I didn't realize what caloric bombs fats and mayo were. Holy shit mayo has so many calories.

Wait so all the ozempic stuff does is make you less hungry? It doesn't even make you burn better?

It's just for people with low willpower?

>>75327329
Plus it makes you have a slough of side effects and permanent damage to your brain and other organs because of the malnourishment. Only the truly foolish hop on it

>>75327308
it's ok, just do what works for you
micros are of micro importance people put too much fucking emphasis on them, just pay attention to the clues in your body, your nails will start breaking more often much sooner than multiple organ failure

>>75327329
I mean, all heroin does is make you not-hungry and feel good, it doesn't "burn fat" at all.

Yet you see all these skeletal junkies.

same logic with ozempic ig, except it doesnt feel good

fatty contest
itsogreguys
134.5kg

anyone seeing weird double ghost entries at the fatty contest?
I definitely posted only once last week, but got marked down for two week.
I noticed a similar thing with some other graphs in the recent entries. a lot of them have a exact doubles for the past 2 weeks.
>>75327233
this guy apparently lost 23 pounds in a week

>>75327393
Some weights weights were fucked with and put back to normal and TheObeseBrit kept updating JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs every week for the last few weeks to be obscenely obese and JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs finally returned to updating his weight, creating a false one week drop that should've been 5 months. The constraints of the fatty contest script? This wouldn't be an issue if there was some form of password, such as through tripcodes when updating the weight, or something

>>75327417
Why are you talking about yourself in the 3rd person JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs?

>>75327430
Who?

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Broke a 36 hour fast with a 1700 calorie breakfast and now my stomach hurts

>>75327433
>instant reply
Lol

>>75327435
Breakfast is a farce. It was invented to sell more bacon, literally.

I ate the same shit I always do and gained five pounds overnight. Why?

>>75327442
Are you schizophrenic?

>>75327450
You definetley are. Really strange to take off your trip and then talk about yourself in the 3rd person.

>>75327417
oh. I just saw a lot of people have the same exact weight for last week as the week prior. total no names too.
I reported last friday, so it's possible it was marked down as the weight of the week before that. whatever, doesn't matter at all. but then there's an identical entry marked for last week too, even though I definitely only updated once. so I'm wondering if the people who didn't have an update last week got automatical duplicates of their last entry. or maybe like you said it was some sort of fix for tomfoolery.

>>75327445
I had 4 slices of bacon so I guess that makes me a dumb goy

>>75327457
I'm not whoever you think I am. Take your meds.

its the schizos posting again..

>>75327464
Sure thing buddy.

>>75327292
I need to be bullied, I keep losing the ball.

t. RamMan

>>75327435
eating a lot after a fast always sounds like a great idea and never ends well
>>75327445
ngl whether I'm fat or fit, on keto or eating carbs etc. I feel like a walking corpse before breakfast. mostly mentally. it's like I'm still half asleep. "breakfast isn't needed" seems more like a meme than breakfast itself to me.

>>75327460
Sometimes when posts are deleted, it causes the script to go bananas. There was a recent flame war where TheObeseBrit kept changing JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs' weight constantly until he got banned for spamming... Twice. This caused a mass delete and might've contributed to fuckery in the script

It's impossible to get thin, the body does not cooperate. I've been at it for 10 years to no avail. It's so fucking over, holy shit I'm done for.

>>75327490
Your talking about yourself in the 3rd person again JustMeatFishSaltButterAndEggs

>>75327496
I'm not him. Take your meds, schizo

>>75327500
Don't you need to go eat 5lbs of raw meat and reach satiation? Maybe after that you'll calm down.

>>75327507
What the fuck are you talking about?? I'm not your Boogeyman

>>75327490
alright. that makes sense. in my case the result is totally inconsequential but I was just a bit worried if the thing was slowly breaking down or something as it had always worked perfectly before.

>>75327510
Good for you then, since his diet is revolting and doesn't lead to weight loss. Only weight gain.

>>75327518
Okay, schizo.

>>75327521
Glad you agree.

>>75327511
Yeah, no worries, it's still working, just isn't designed with deleted posts in mind.

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>>75326398
Thanks Miko, I needed to read that just now.

>>75326556
>metabolic age: 34
>high
thanks for making me feel old app

>>75327053
as you were the only one who replied to me, I decided not to be angry at you. but that thing about my fertility or infertility... that came out of nowhere. I believe only my future significant other should be concerned with it. you aren't him and you prolly wouldn't want to be? so no offense taken. we are good

>>75327549
Eat a salad

>>75326509
If you're type 2 and eating low carb please be careful of blood sugar lows if you're still on medication.
Your body will heal itself and eventually be able to process sugars again and if you're on the medication you'll get some really dangerous lows.
That also might be why you're losing weight, your body is adjusting from drowning in sugar to there being none. Your body is thirsty for sugars so it's rapidly breaking down your fat stores faster than you're building new muscle.
Try adjusting your meds and adding some carbs back to your diet.

>>75326953
>I also don't do any workout as I want to loose weight first. Is it ok?
define "ok". is it healthy or smart? no. can you lose weight without exercise? yes.

>>75327040
190g is a lot of protein. I doubt it's necessary if you have trouble reaching that number.

>>75327000
>Yeah, sure, buddy. It’s not the fact you probably ate an entire pizza in one sitting because you “deserved it.” It’s your special body’s fault.
Autism. There's nothing "special" about a body wanting to store excess energy storages nor has anyone claimed there to be. It's literally how all bodies operate. It's only a problem now because we're actually able to satiate that want consistently. For most of human evolution it was a very useful function of the body.

>>75326392
Imagine putting mayonnaise and oil all over your food and not tracking it lol

>>75326556
Yeah you're just burning fat faster than building muscle.
Add carbs, adjust meds, be careful of blood sugar lows.
Keep with it, your body is healing.
Good on you for making a change. Stick with it! Eventually you'll get through this phase and stop dropping weight.

>>75327552
ok. tomorrow tho, today I've already eaten enough

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>>75327308
>>75327345
As the other say: first tune your macros, then down the line your micros (at that point it'll be only minor adjustements). The biggest and most difficult steps are now.
Good luck!

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I just realized something.
Im never hungry, not really. Because whenever there is room to eat, I will. Im usually at the "I could eat" and then eat until bloated.

I should avoid eating at the "I could eat" stage. When its lunch / dinner, I should be actually hungry. Really hungry. I cant remember the last time I felt starving and just ready to shove something down.

Also, I shouldnt eat until I am bloated. I should stop as soon as I am satisfied, regardless if there is food left over. Eating until I feel bloated has become the norm for me, but the more I think about it, its no wonder I ballooned. I have grown to really hate that bloated feeling anyway, its energy draining and makes me sleepy.

Keeping these 2 things in mind I think will make a big difference.

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>>75327475
> "breakfast isn't needed" seems more like a meme than breakfast itself to me.
Part of it is habit, part of it depends on your physical activity, other part depends on your body composition. I benefit much more from breakfast at 20% brodyfat than 25/30%, even more so that I cycle a lot now and really need to fuel before my rides.

>>75327199
>I only have motvation when I dont work and can sleep and train whenever I want lol.
Same.
Work or school? I start eating and sleeping like shit. Drinking. Skipping exercise.
When my weekly schedule consists of basic chores, exercise and playing video games I do great.

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I am down 4lbs... probably the lowest weight I have been in years :^)

>>75327356
I think the feel good aspect is a pretty big draw for heroin.

>>75327618
>Im never hungry, not really. Because whenever there is room to eat, I will. Im usually at the "I could eat" and then eat until bloated.
I had that like a decade ago. Also only realized it after years of doing it.
It's honestly really easy to get rid of. You just stop eating until you're hungry and your body adapts super quickly. Idk how much of it is physical and how much mental, but it's surprisingly easy to correct if you just focus on one day at a time and ridiculously quickly it will become second nature. I'm talking days or at most weeks. Not months.

>>75326768
yeah because you are so obese that your body burns so much fat just to keep you alive in the first place - as soon as you stopped eating extremely calorie dense ice cream and sweets that doesn't fill you up it became way harder to meet that TDEE so you lost weight

You're supposed to be minimizing sweet intake, but carbs are not the enemy, vegetables and grains are even better for satiating you than meat is.
>>75326953
you barely need to lose 10 pounds to look lean and healthy at that height, but sure as soon as you get to 85 lbs start lifting and eating at maintenance

Fatty Contest
mestionora
140.1kg

Fatty Contest
PathToAbs
197.6 lbs

Imagine being almost 300lbs and having the audacity to tell people what does and doesn't work regarding fat loss.
>B... but I lost 18lbs in two years
Lmao

Fatty Contest
TinyRatDog
286lbs

>>75327624
Whenever I go to the gym consistently, I wake up STARVING. Like I jump out of bed and grab a banana 5 seconds after waking up before I do any other routine tasks. It's definitely not a habit thing.
The only times I've noticed I don't need breakfast is when I've been fasting for multiple days, but maybe I'm just used to the brainfog at that point.
Otherwise it doesn't really matter what I eat or how much I eat, I just need something for my body to get that signal to start up properly. I can still manage just fine, go to work or whatever but I'd be operating at 50% brainpower and feel kinda zoned out until I eat something, anything.

>>75327233
you're such a fucking liar man

who the hell goes from 320 to 297 in a week
that's physically impossible even if you're burning 5000 calories a day

but who cares, you're just cheating yourself and destroying your body with this ridiculous meme diet while people far fatter than you are eating right and doing right by themselves and their human dignity

>>75327677
see >>75327417

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Does fasting get harder once you get into the sub 15% range? It's the only thing that seems to work for me. I used to take an ECA stack to help with the initial hunger, but now I fast every weekend without too much trouble. It even helped with my GERD.

>>75326521
Does anyone know of an archive/torrent/easy way to download all images from a Twitter account without actually scrolling through Twitter?
I'd like to have a full duck archive of my own (does anyone care if the nun pic posted is not the most recent one???) but I can't bring myself to do it manually.

>>75326455
>>75326481
lol cardio while fasting is totally fine. why wouldn't it be? I go on a bike ride regularly every day I fast.
just make sure you get your electrolytes and don't try to push yourself to do some extreme HIIT hill climb workout.

>>75327700
yeah i don't buy that for one second
the motherfucker is ridiculously obese in any case, he's just pretending that he's less obese to make himself feel better (while still in the realm of believability for his fat brain)

>>75327758
I'm not saying his diet isn't retarded but in his post he claimed a 18lbs loss in 2 years. That 20lbs drop in a week is just a glitch of the website, not what he's claiming to have done.

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I calorie counted for 2 weeks and I don't know if I will continue. I feel like two weeks was good enough to get an idea of how much I should be eating. Really I just need(ed) to stop buying family sized bags of chips and eating them within 24-48 hours... and other junk food.

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>>75326889
>steak burned to a crisp
>bowl of vomit and eggs
>bottle of purified water that looks like piss
You sicken me.

>>75326583
>constantly eating surplus calories
>doesn't believe in calories
>fat as fuck and not improving
thank god he's posting constantly and offering weight-loss advice

>>75327794
You reckon it's meat, fish, salt, butter or eggs mixed into thta drink?

>>75326858
autism

>>75326768
stop
shilling
a
diet
when
you
are
still
a
fat
fuck
after
all
these
years

>>75326392
Anyone gotten a DEXA scan? Did it show anything useful?

>>75327753
Do I really need to worry about electrolytes at 2 to 3 days already?

>>75327772
The face of future failure folks

>>75327804
You heretic! The prophet's name is meat, fish, salt, butter AND eggs
It's all blended together and mixed in with the water

>>75326592
>Surely the body wouldn't handicap itself on overeating eating what it's designed to eat.
Gaining weight isn't the body "handicapping" itself. It's intended to do that to avoid starvation when food isn't around. That's the entire reason people can get fat. If the body wasn't trying to store excess energy whenever possible it'd just flush down the nutrients without absorbing them, but that's not what the body does.

>Also, why do so many people require medication to feel satiated just to lose weight
They don't. They've just mentally trained themself to overeat or to emotionally binge and for some people drugging themselves is easier than to develop some discpline.

>>75327867
Not if you're just fasting without exercise. For cardio or lifting while fasting maybe depending on the intensity. It sure helps to avoid cramps and such.

>>75326625
I know that feel anon.
As dumb as it sounds, the normie advice is right. You need to develop something else meaningful in your life. Whether that's a hobby, relationships, career or just enjoying some nature or a good book or whatever. You don't need to become a cookie cutter NPC, but you need some reason to get out of bed in the morning if you want to escape the cycle of easy to obtain hits of pleasure from food, drugs, alcohol etc. just to maintain a will to live.

Fatty Contest
Dr Nipples
285

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Just a reminder for people using 4chanx

>>75326392
>not tracking butter and mayo
do people really?

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I am down 45 lbs in 4 months, nothing can stop me now.
5'11 195lbs

Trying to decide whether to do a mini-cut now.
Odds: two week cut
Evens: keep on bulking

I never post in these threads, but storytime, because why not.

Basically I started lifting when I was 15 and did it pretty religiously until about 30. I'm 188cm and for all that time was around 88-90kgs and fit. Benched 110kgs for reps, could run 10kms in a good time. Never gave a shit about diet, had fuck all body fat anyway.

Work and depression got to me and I stopped exercising for years. Then the covid madness and working from home for 3 years did the rest. One day I go out and walk a couple of kms up a hill and I think I'm going to die. Somehow don't, go home and weigh myself and see 120kgs on the scale. Talk about a wakeup call.

Do a bunch of reading and start my first ever proper diet in July this year. Keto with a target of <40g of carbs per day and around 1900 calories (about a 600 calorie deficit). For the first 3 days I'm hungry a lot and I can shit through the eye of a needle. Then... it's easy. Don't even get hungry. Bacon and eggs for breakfast, tuna for lunch, steak or chicken for dinner with brocolli, brussel sprouts and mushrooms. Voost multivitamin daily. Snacks are almonds and a couple of slices of cheese a day.

Get a garmin watch to track steps and motivate myself. Aim for minumum 7500 steps a day, 10000 preferred.

After 6 weeks I'm down 10kgs.

Go off keto for 4 weeks but still watch what I'm eating. Start lifting in addition to the daily steps, start creatine.

Do a second round of keto for 7 weeks. Still lifitng, still with the same diet. Add in a man bar on lift days for the extra protein (lifting every second day).

After second round of keto I'm down to 103kgs and lifts are slowly getting stronger. Can see muscle coming back even though I'm an old cunt. The keto diet has also basically fixed my IBS. I even started to like black coffee.

Shit really works. Will start another 6 weeks on keto in about 3 weeks so I've finished it for Christmas. Goal will be to get as close to 95kgs as possible, then 90kgs in Jan.

I've stopped giving a shit about making the scale number lower and now I focus on excervise and just avoiding garbage in my diet.

A month ago I was 260lbs and sedentary outside of my 10k steps daily and infrequent weightlifting.

I'm still 260 but I feel way lighter because I lift and excercise daily after coming up with a program for myself using what I got.

A month ago I would be gassed doing 10 bodyweight squats, now I have to stop myself from doing more after doing over 100 with 25lb dumbells to avoid overworking it and fucking up rest before the next leg day.

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>>75326824
>butter (a stick a day, minimum, into my food, not as cooking fat.

>>75327955
I admit that I'm too lazy to MEASURE cooking oil so I just guesstimate it and I'm sure I use more than I think.
But I already anticipate that so that's why I always leave a buffer in my diets and operate assuming the worst.

>tracking calories
It's simple. Just don't eat until you're smaller.

>>75327957
gz

>>75327957
Nice work, anon.

>>75327955
I know eating bread is a bit of a meme in general, but if you were to make a sandwich, do you stop to weigh the butter you use to butter the breard or each slice of cheese and cold cuts?
Even if you do, I bet most people don't.

I've been on tirzepatide for a month and I've lost 15 lbs. You may say it's cheating, but it's still CICO and I can only manage to eat 1200 cals max per day and it feels like thanksgiving dinner. The only time I have side effects is when I forget to eat and get a little hypoglycemic and dehydrated. I also lift too to maintain muscle mass and don't feel hungry afterwards.

>>75328036
tadalafil for me. The effects may be entirely mental but I feel as though it's helped me stay motivated

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>>75327868
impossible, I'm a winner, I have never failed at anything in my life, ever!

>>75327977
nice recovery anon. keto does work, but unfortunately a lot of people (myself included) simply lack the discipline to stay in ketosis longer than a few weeks before falling back into old habits. i was "doing keto" for the better part of a year but most of that time was spent getting into ketosis and binging carbs a few days later. happy to hear you're finding your old self.

>>75327977
Good stuff anon. Yeah it does work but the key here was consistency and a caloric defecit. The keto cultist cunts this thread hates are the "eating keto is in itself enough and makes other considerations obsolete" kind.

>>75328047
based JK rowling once again

>>75328032
I use mayo on sandwiches and I use exactly 1 tbsp every time. For toast it's 1/2 tbsb of butter.

It only takes like 10 extra seconds to measure, but the amount of physical activity you'd need to do to burn and extra 30-60% every single day from eyeballing it is a FAR higher time investment.

>>75327772
2 weeks is definitely not enough but calorie counting is supposed to be a learning exercise for exactly that. To have a good general sense of how much you're eating and how much you need to eat so you do it naturally. The people who calorie count all their life are autistic.

>>75328057
Its crazy how I looped around from TERFS are cringe to shaking their hand as we gang up against troons.

>>75328058
It's probably less about the 10 seconds and more about living like a human being rather than a robot in a test chamber.

>>75328045

isn't that for erectile dysfunction

>>75328050
>a lot of people (myself included) simply lack the discipline to stay in ketosis
Yeah, I was worried about doing it wrong so I got some of those test strips for diabetics and test my piss every few days to make sure I'm in ketosis, plus I only planned to do it for 6 or 7 weeks at a time with 4 weeks off in between. So far, so good.

>>75328051
>Yeah it does work but the key here was consistency and a caloric defecit.
Yep. The keto part of the process for me is it basically manages my hunger, and the protein intake means I can hopefully not lose the muscle I'm slowly regaining.

>>75328067
Robots don't eat sandwiches, anon. If that's how you feel measuring stuff though then all the best.

>>75328079
It's worked fine. Like I said, I assume the worst. I also doubt that the extra 100kcal or whatever from excess butter is going to be the deciding factor for anybody, unless you seriously don't have any clue how much you're using and guesstimate wrong by 500kcal

>>75328078
I've used those strips too. They're useful. I didn't have any trouble staying in ketosis even though I ate plenty of veggies that had some carbs. Beer was the only thing that got me out desu.

>>75328091
NTA but I just pour any cooking oil or melted butter into a measuring spoon to ensure that I'm getting an actual tsp rather than a heaping tsp
It's not that complicated. For solid butter, it literally shows where the tbsp lines are on the block, so you just cut 1/3 of the way through that

>>75328051
>The keto cultist cunts this thread hates are the "eating keto is in itself enough and makes other considerations obsolete" kind.
I suspect many of those types of posts are false flags or troll posts by that mentally ill "ketoschizo" anon.
t. Guy who does keto, caloric deficit and lifting. I find that minimizing carbs makes it much easier to maintain consistent energy while in a caloric deficit

>>75328134
the lines are 50g where I live. mostly useful for baking. although using them to figure out how much is 12.5g is pretty simple.
I have measured 10g before so I do have an eye-accurate idea instead of just blindly putting it on. I'm just not going to repeat that each time.

>>75328134
but thanks for reminding me of the lines because I just realized I can take a new stick of butter and draw those across it and that separates it to 12.5g chunks easing the process.
well, not easing the process of eyeballing, but having a measured amount without measuring each time.

did anyone get fucked up going low carb?

Last time I tried this I was having schizophrenic fantasies about killing myself by binge eating golden coral for multiple days straight. It lasted for like 3 weeks then tapered off.

I am just getting started again and feel super faint and high anxiety.

>>75328288
no

>>75328288
>golden corral
>keto
lmao wut

>>75328303
>>75328352
I guess I will ask my doctor for stronger schizophrenia pills.

I am going from 4.5k cal diet to 1.5k while this is going on.

The sticky says fasted cardio is a meme, is it true?

Fatty Contest
Greaser
92.7kg/204.4lbs
whenever I work I just can't keep the weight loss going or I risk passing out, damnit

>>75328415
https://web.archive.org/web/20160210071323/http://winstonsalempersonaltraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Does_Cardio_After_an_Overnight_Fast_Maximize_Fat.3.pdf

>>75328415
yes

>>75328288
No. Are you on any meds?

The other thing is if you're someone who's done a fair bit of weed, the THC can get stored in body fat and when you burn that fat it reenters your blood and it can affect you.

>>75328507
wtf a free high I need to start keto right away

>>75328415
In conclusion, the literature does not
support the efficacy of training early in
the morning on an empty stomach as a tactic to reduce body fat. At best, the
net effect on fat loss associated with
such an approach will be no better than
training after meal consumption, and
quite possibly, it would produce in-
ferior results. Moreover, given that
training with depleted glycogen levels
has been shown to increase proteolysis,
the strategy has potential detrimental
effects for those concerned with mus-
cle strength and hypertrophy.

>>75328376
Tell him what you're doing, anon. Stronger meds might not be what you need.

>visit dad for the weekend
>break from deficit and counting, probably over maintenance one day and around it the next
>get home today, feel energized and motivated to do a bunch of shit and in a generally good mood, very out of the norm lately
Damn
Well back to the grind

Fatty Contest
Falstaff
244 lbs

Weight loss stagnated due to me subsisting on a literal diet of hotel potato chips because of Helene, but we're back in buisiness with nutritional food now

>>75328459
Try smaller healthier meals throughout the day, like a couple of turkey and cheese dry sandwiches or fruit or vegetables.

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I'm bored of the weight I got to 3 days ago and am ready for a new number.

I fit into the clothes I wore at my brother's wedding before I REALLY ballooned up, feels good man

>>75328762
congrats anon, keep it up

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House_Hippo
229.8lbs

Bros, I wake up have a coffee and wait for the a shit before I weigh myself.
It's been 3 morning and no shit is coming :(

I'm doing really well 6/7 days of the week, but I can't stop going to Cici's and stuffing my face on Sunday. I'm still losing weight on average over the week but it would be faster if I could cut this shit out.

>>75328795
I weigh myself straight after my morning piss, which is right after I wake up.

I don't like taking consuming anything before I weigh myself and would hate feeling like I need to wait until I shit

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>Mfw I ate slightly above maintenance yesterday but I had fasted the previous day leaving me with still a huge overall deficit for the week

>>75328796
>I can't stop going to Cici's
Lmao

>>75328804
same. I piss but I wait to drink my morning glass of water after the weigh-in.

hi /fat/ i'm trying to become anorexic, any guides on how to cope with the feeling of hunger?

>>75328890
try therapy

>>75328890
youre not a real anorexic if you dont enjoy the "suffering" of feeling hungry

>>75328288
>>75328796
Buffets used to be my weakness, as well (especially CiCi's thanks to it being cheap)
I hope you can escape the allure, anon. It's tough out there.

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>>75326889
>mfw on carnivore too
my brother in christ what the fuck are you doing

>>75326889
> 3 utensils in the canned fish and whole boiled eggs soup
One for each limb. Makes perfect sense.

>>75328032
I just put the bread on my scale and set the weight to zero.

>>75328804
I weighed myself after a piss too. It was the same as yesterday.
I use the coffee to stimulate the shit.

Not really fat (78.5kg now down from 81kg), but the beer belly is getting less noticeable.
Sticking to 1700kcal is hard though, because I'm always hungry at the end of the night.

>>75328032
I never use a food scale. I guesstimate that stuff, which is wrong and ought to make me feel bad, but doesn't.
So one buttered toast always gets logged as 1/2 tbsp of butter, which I hope averages out to something plausible over the long run.
I eyeball a lot of calories. The trick is to try to be fair about it and not consistently slant toward logging less than you should.
In my defense, it generally works. I aim for 500 daily calorie deficit, and I've been getting a commensurate weight loss for the past ~6 months (about 1 lb/week), with some occasional plateaus.

>>75328507
I completely forgot about that. It might explain why my mental health has been going downhill since I started losing weight. My body has been microdosing me. I quit weed in the first place because it was making me anxious.
>75328538
It definitely isn't enough to get you high.

>>75326392
I find McDonald's hamburgers are actually kind of good. They're only 250kcal and you can eat two of them and it can carry you for a few hours.

>>75326392
177 cm, 81 kg, 33 yo, 26% bf
My biggest problem it is that it's almost all subcutaneous fat. Like adding some shitty sacs on my pecs, all around me. Severely hurt my self-esteem all over these years.
When I lost a lot of weight several years ago I reached 22% bf at 67 kg. I lost motivation and got up again.
I want to try again. Since January I lost 6-7 kg, trying to regulate my diet. I go to the gym everyday, some sort of total body with random exercises + treadmill, I don't know if it is good. I want a body I'm proud of. I want to be happy. Please give suggestions and ideas.

>>75329121
Adding to this:
>two McD hamburgers
>bottle of water/Coke Zero
That can keep you satisfied for a good chunk of the day.

>>75327618
>Also, I shouldnt eat until I am bloated. I should stop as soon as I am satisfied, regardless if there is food left over. Eating until I feel bloated has become the norm for me, but the more I think about it, its no wonder I ballooned.
Maybe you are right, but sometimes it's just going to happen anyways. Which is why I keep watermelon, cantaloupe/whatever melons that look good, and grapes ready to eat at all times. If you finish your healthy meal and then gorge on watermelon and grapes who fucking cares. Also pineapple chunks can be kino.

>>75329113
I've had success with a similar method, although prior to that I autistically checked every calorie for at least 3 years, so by the time I started winging it I had pretty good guesstimates. I even had a period where I did both just to see how good my guesses were.
>The trick is to try to be fair about it and not consistently slant toward logging less than you should.
I always aimed at the "wrong" side, so if I was cutting I'd assume the most it could've possibly been.

>>75326416
Reeeeee nooo no women allowed renew nooo

>>75329121
>>75329133
idk about you but McD actually looks quite good on paper, however it is the opposite of satiety. I can eat that slop enough to have like 100g of protein and 1500kcal or whatever and be hungry in 2 hours. a meal of real potatoes and a real steak or something with identical macros would keep me satiated for an entire day.

>>75329240
Wtf are you talking about

>>75329125
if you're really going to the gym every day and struggling to lose weight, either your exercise is shit or your diet is shit.
have you tried some pre-planned program? they're not necessary, but give you a good idea of what a real workout should look like as well as give you a clear goal to work towards instead of possibly half-assing it.

>>75329250
I agree that it's not as good as a proper dinner with some chicken or red meat and potatoes, but if you're hungry in town or something it's handy and can keep you going for a bit. I wouldn't eat anything higher calorie than a hamburger or mayo chicken though because then you'll be hungry again in 2 hours with three times the calorie intake.

>>75329278
back when double cheeseburgers used to be 2€ I often did that. like 460kcal and 28g of protein or something like that. it's not bad.
but I'm also a bit worried of what kind of devilish goyslop can it possibly be for being so terrible at satiating? with nearly anything you buy from the grocery store you get results that match what they should be, but not with mcdonalds.

>>75329290
I used to work in McDonald's and even I couldn't tell you. But they obviously do something to the burgers to prevent you feeling full for long. Maybe the fat to meat ratio? I don't know.

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>>75326556
Absolute BS that your just this muscle tank. Show a dexa then I'll give you credit. Your fatty contest chart shows you've pretty much just gained weight this whole time. OH wait except just now when you say you've actually lost either 19lbs or 23lbs but it seems to line up differently.

Fatty contest
Certified Turtle
230 8lbs

>>75327753
Everything I've done cardio while fasting i hit the wall. I crumble like a little kids sand castle.

discipline is hating life and 'making it' having lost all meaning, but doing it anyways because deep down in your soul you know it's the right thing

>>75329133
>>75329121
Are you guys in the US? All I know is that McDonalds makes me feel absolutely terrible. It smells bad, barely fills me up, and passes through my system like a brick. I hear it's better in other countries.

>>75329445
Ireland here. I used to work there. It's basically the same slop here, but probably even more expensive.
But it is genuinely addictive. When I was working there I'd crave that stuff a lot.

finishing up my fasting day and its so hard not to make some aglio e olio pasta or some shit, my stomach is having 7 second long continuous growlings too this sucks

>>75329497
Why do people make themselves suffer like this? I don't get the purpose of fasting days. Just stick to a daily calorie limit and do your exercises.

I'd feel nauseous if I went a whole day without eating anything.

I feel like this will be a good week for me and the fatty contest. As long as I stick to my meals and dont buy snacks like chips and chocolate I should be able to hit a new low come Sunday. I have no dinners, gatherings or catchups planned so its all on me to get it done. I just need to think everytime before putting something in my mouth, is this worth it.

>>75329512
im going on a trip in a month and a half and the only way im gonna get to my goal weight is like this. plus i'm still hungry all the time when i eat in a deficit so its not that much worse

>>75326953
How in God's name do you eat so little and weight so little and not feel... strange? I've only e er been at the top of my acceptable weight range, my goal is solid middle around BMI 21.5 but your goal is BMI 15.6 and you're currently under my goal by .3
HOW? How do you manage this? I feel like I'm getting by eating at my goal maintenance and that I can live off that, but to live off 800cal a day forever sounds like being a fucking POW.

>>75329542
You're probably a foot taller than her lol hunger and appetite scale with your size

>>75328985
i do to an extent, but i'm looking for ways to just be stronger-willed i guess
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>>75326392
>calories

A stupid concept as each macronutrient does a completely different thing within the body. You can't immediately use protein as energy without going into ketosis which you wouldn't really have to worry about so long as your eating some carbs and good enough fats. Your body can typically only use dietary carbs and dietary fats as energy, fats being a more long term sustained form of energy that comes into play about 20-40+ mins into exercise. The same way your body uses your stored fat, it can use your dietary fat before that. You also have stored carbs in the form of glycogen.

Here's what I'm positing, THROW OUT THIS CONCEPT OF CALORIES. Counting calories isn't the most efficient way of getting thin, it's a misunderstanding of nutrients. A better way is to understand which nutrients you're putting into your body and what they do. The ketotards are right because protein doesn't have much to do with fat storage, the liver has to turn protein into glycogen before it can be stored as fat. So eating excessive protein can overwork the liver but more likely you'll just shit it out if you're eating too much. So that's where ketotards are wrong. YOU SHOULD EAT HIGH PROTEIN AND HIGH FIBER DIETS TO LOSE STORED FAT. Ugh, I know! You'll have to eat yucky plants! Now here's the real kicker, keeping dietary fat low will help you too! As to not just start burning dietary fat during sustained exercise. You straight up want to trigger the use of stored glycogen and stored fat during your exercise and the best way to do that is avoid dietary carbs and fats.

Another day another calorie denier. The entire planet has it wrong but random 4chan fatfuck sees the truth lmao.

>>75329581
Im definately shitting less since eating less protein. Last time I tried losing weight I was eating at least 50% more protein than I am now and shitting was never a problem like it is this time around.

I didn't join the fatty contest at my highest or mid weight. I'm down 50lbs and I've got like 20lbs to go so I feel like there's no point to join

>>75329581
Protein is very rarely used as "fuel", instead being used for various building materials, wuch as maintaining and growing organs/bones/muscle and other things. The fact that fat and protein both have these functions as building materials instead of pure chemical energy is why they're the only essential macronutrients. Carbohydrates are non-essential and are made in just the right amount by the body. Calories in the nutrition facts label sense are a stand-in for mass, with a heavy bias towards carbohydrates and protein as the system uses arbitrary designations to classify the three macronutrients as if they have different energy values and are solely used for energy. Why don't we do the same for other nutrients? Excess micronutrients are sometimes broken apart for chemical energy, too. It's silly.

I was at my normal weight for 5 years after losing 40kg and then I put on 20 after I drank every day for 8 months straight. Quit that and I'm now 5kg from my normal weight but this shit sucks man. This is the third time I've had to lose 20kg or more.

>>75329581
Ideal doet for losing stored fat I'd say is 10% carbs, 20% fats, 40% protein, and as much fiber as possible even if it means lowering those numbers. That's when not going for a workout soon. When going for a workout and coming back, the two immediate meals should be close to 0% carbs, 10% fats, 60% protein, and as much fiber as possible.

Are you going to get 0% carbs? No, most fiber sources have carbs. Are spinach and carrots a good source of carbs? No, but they're good fiber. These would be fine to eat to fill your gut and they will give you some carbs for healthy bodily function, and you'll burn them off in sustained exercise anyway. Including carbs and fats in your diet when not going for a workout has to do with that healthy bodily function, you don't need to be in full starvation mode all day. You're doing like 10% of what you'd be doing during a workout while starving. Don't starve when you're not working out but don't stuff your fat face either. But the balance will help the body go through it's normal repair and maintenance functions and you'll feel less like shit.

>>75329581
>>75329622
you guys pull so much shit out of your ass that it's surprising you're still somehow fat

>>75329593
When I was doing running events I'd eat high fat for good sustained energy and it worked great. I stuck to high fat as my normal bulking diet and would just have nasty diarrhea shits. High fat really helps with event athletes that need sustained energy throughout multiple hour events, especially sustained cardio. But for lifting it's not really necessary because you go for an hour and are done. Your body can't really use that fat to build muscle so you'll shit it, nor can it use carbs for building muscle. Again why it's more important to understand the different macronutrients and their roles.

Carbs are easily stored as glycogen and fat when you already have toi much glycogen stored. Building muscle is great because you can store more glycogen in those muscles and the weight is more nicely distrubuted across your body and looks tight rather than loose and flabby, but you're still storing excess energy and weight. If you want to start burning fat from stored reserves you need to avoid carbs and fats. /fit/ seems to misunderstand fats. They're usually the godly macro for athletes but using then for bulking isn't good if you actually want to gain muscle, unless you're trying to gain muscle while keeping a cardio routine. You're not really "and athlete" or anywhere near one if you're not at least keeping up on regular cardio. Going to the gym for an hour every other day is not an athlete, it's just stimulating myofibrillar growth or sacroplasmic bloat depending on if you do low or high rep exercises. That's quick work that doesn't require sustained energy during, but rather sustained recovery after.

>>75329633
I dont know when fat loss became so complicated. Eating less, making good choices and moving more used to work for most people.

>>75329688
Checked. Thanks for this info.

>>75329549
No it doesn't. There are plenty of short women who can out-eat 6' guys.

>>75329633
I've literally been lean my whole life. This is later stage understanding shit, this won't make sense to you if you just cracked the book on diet and exercise and only have a noob's understanding. If you can't grasp these concepts, then stick to CICO. That's a specifically dumbed down concept to make it easy for normies to understand and it's perfectly fine in that regard because it will make dumb fat fucks eat less FOOD which is the root of their problem. Yes you can lose weight simply by eating less volume of food than you normally do. Even saying "lose weight" is a stupid normie term. The real goal is to lose stored fat, just saying lose weight well wtf are they losing? Glycogen reserve water weight? That's just as dumb as saying "eat less calories" which just means eat less food but in a pretentious sounding way. It benefits you to know what to eat to make the process more fine tuned and efficient, fatty.

>>75329125
185cm, 85kg, 48 yo, ~20% bf, I was at 102kg 28% bf 6 months ago, and have been aiming for a 500 daily calorie deficit since then.
It's mostly easy to do, particularly since I've eliminated all fast sugars and most ultra-processed slop from my diet.
I aim for 150g of proteins a day, mostly low carbs (and only carbs with lots of fibers), and few saturated fats.
In practice that means I have a dozen go-to meals I cycle through, all of them stupidly easy to put together, all of them fitting my macros well.
I try to do cardio every day, unless I feel under the weather. I only exercise 3 times a week, because it already sucks enough as it is, and my old bones need their recovery times. But young bones probably do too.
Speaking from the tall heights of my 6 months of doing this, I'd say nailing down your diet is probably the most important thing you can do. Writing a diet on paper is cool, but it's only meaningful if you can actually stick to it, so try to work with your cravings rather than against them wherever possible. I'm not a salmon, I don't like swimming upstream. I do however eat a lot of salmon. So maybe a bear. A lazy bear.
Speaking off, sleeping well is super important for this. Make sure you get enough sleep, preferably uninterrupted if that's an option.
Your workouts are part of a long game, and results will be painfully slow compared to your weight loss. They're important too, just less so than the first two imho.

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>>75329622
No carbs after workout then, but before a workout/exercise is probably ok? I look back through MFP where Ive lost good ammount in the past and it was pretty low carb, and I wasnt working out. This time the difference is im cycling a lot, enjoy working out and doing cardio at the gym. Im finding im constantly playing with my diet where im around 200g carbs a day to fuel my days. Perhaps I just have too many confilcting goals right now and I should just focus on the weight loss for a while.

>>75329592
>another calorie denier
I'm not in ketosis and have probably never been in my life, like most people. Protein CAN be used as energy in an emergency state of the body, but it isn't typically burned as energy. So what is that 4 kcal doing? You don't even get 4 kcal energy out of protein if you're not in ketosis, your body never converted it to be burned. You don't get 9 calories out of a gram of fat that your body shat out because you ate too much. Calories are a fucking sham and you're a fucking idiot if you believed in this. Took a genius autist 2 minutes of actual thought based on what I already know, and what's obvious, to realize this and present it in a way that makes sense to you retards.

Yes I am denying the efficacy of the concept of calories. You are almost never getting 4 energy units from protein because most are not in a state where they're converting protein into burnable energy. Fat is usually shat out but can also easily store as bodily fat, retard advice givers deny that but it's a fact you can look up.

>>75329317
His graph looks like shit because he didn't update it for months, and recently when a few anons tried to force him to update by setting his weight to silly numbers, he simply reset it to the previous recorded weight rather than his actual weight.
It explains the weird straight line followed a sharp change once he decided to update the chart.
This is not intended to be a judgement on the plausibility of his current or past weight. Not applicable in all states. By reading this disclaimer, you wave your right to a trial and agree to arbitration in Elon Musk's boudoir.

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>>75329622
what about the other 30%

>>75329757
So if I eat nothing but meat I'll lose a pound every 2 days is what you're saying?

>>75329735
>No carbs after workout then, but before a workout/exercise is probably ok?
The less carbs you eat before a workout, the quicker you'll get into that fat reserve burning state. So better to have none or close to none before, and yeah you're gonna feel like absolute shit because you're starved of the energy source your body needs to get through that exercise. You're forcing it to dip into stored reserves.

Afterwards you're going to want to switch into recovery mode. While you could still potentially burn stores whole recovering, you might fuck your shit up this way and cause inadequate recovery. By eating carbs after a workout you're replenishing spent glycogen reserves, which will probably be depleted by the time you go into your next workout a day or two later. So doesn't do all that much to avoid carbs after a workout. If you really wanted to push quick weight loss it could be beneficial but you're relying on stored energy to power your recovery. You need energy for basic functions like digestion and moving nutrients around the body.

>>75329776
Fiber or water or nothing. You should only be eating 70% of what you need. I do the same trick while bulking, I need 130% of the protein I need. Nothing else actually matters for bulking. Don't even get me started on how retarded that side of the aisle is when it comes to understanding macros. That's why they get fat then have to cut and don't understand how to do that ideally either, all because of this stupid CICO concept falsely simplifying macros.

>>75329777
No you'll go into ketosis and fuck your shit up. In ketosis your body will convert protein into glycogen which can be stored as fat. Leaves behind a lot of harmful waste during this process that the body has to filter and gas out. This isn't the best way to do it, I told you the best way. Your goal isn't to use protein as energy, it's to use stored fat as energy.

>>75329622
>10% carbs, 20% fats, 40% protein
So wheres the other 30% come from?

>>75329622
I was always under the impression that fiber would slow down the absorption of protein into the muscles. My head has been filled with too much bro science

>>75329777
There's fat in the meat anyway which your body can use as immediate energy or store as energy. There's a reason they say to eat lean proteins for weight loss, they just don't spell it out. Eating high fat while trying to lose weight, you might as well eat high complex carbs. Think of fats as longer lasting carbs.

They do have other benefits like hormone production and cell repair so I wouldn't say eat a no fat diet. I wouldn't even say eat a no carb diet. You're gonna get some carbs when you try to stuff yourself with fiber. Big deal, you'll burn them off in 30 minutes sitting around or <10 minutes exercising.

>>75329847
Your body will slow down your bowel movement speed if you need more nutrients to make sure it's getting everything out of that food before shitting it out. If you're on a starvation simulator diet it's gonna do that, I wouldn't worry about it and don't think that would happen anyway.

>>75329862
>slow down your bowel movement speed
Yer, I've been down this path before. took me 6mths to work out that simply not eating enough was the root cause of my rock hard shits.

>>75329622
>>75329802
>eat 10% carbs, 20% fats, 40% protein
>don't eat the other 30%
this is actually groundbreaking, thank you for posting

>>75329819
HE SAID FIBER OR WATER
GET 30% OF YOUR CALORIES FROM WATER ANON

>>75329549
I didn't give any specific measurements, because that's not what I'm getting at. I'm not saying I'm 6'4, and she's 4'9, so our hunger should be the same at the same. I'm saying she's already under BMI 22 and her goal is almost dead. 15 BMI is dead.

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>>75329909
H-how many calories are in water? The three macronutrients are the only ones that are measured by dietary calories, except in some rare instances where alcohol is realized as a macro. Theoretically, there would be infinite water in this scenario, or, necessarily 0 food or water.

>>75329969
I think he means by weight, not by calories

>>75329897
>>75329909
>he/she hasn't achieved CHIM and begun deriving 30%+ of his/her calories from the dewdrops of universal spacetime
I laugh at you. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.

>>75329775
His graph looks like shit because he's way fatter than he started, and alleged just dropped not even 20lbs.

>>75329991
I will see you in the boudoir, good sir.

>>75329909
>CALORIES
Wtf was the whole point I initially made? Calories is a stupid fucking concept. I go by volume of food and what type of macro it is, calories are a flawed metric because you don't even use protein as energy unless you're in ketosis. If you're bot in ketosis, you break them down into amino acids. They don't get burned as energy. Carbs, proteins, fats, fiber, and water do different things but they all take up volume in your stomach and all prevent feeling hunger.

>>75329622
>>75329802
Just say you are at a calorie deficit lmao

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>>75326953
>>75329549

>>75329969
Alcohol is a macro that can immediately be used as energy or be stored in the body as fat. Definitely the least healthy or useful macro.

Fiber and water are still volume of food in your stomach, both can make you feel full. They are useful tools in dieting and no one can deny that. Drop the concept of calories and go by percentage of your meal, what I meant is that's the percentage of each thing that should be in your belly per meal.

>>75330132
>calorie
NO! RRRRREEEEEEEEE!!!!!

You'd be better off having sufficient protein and being at a carb and fat deficit. Your brain is so poisoned by this calorie concept you can't even understand macros anymore

You can eat as much protein as you want but be careful not to go into ketosis. You'll smell like alcoholic gas when this happens, but the people in it tend to be nose blind to it so look up other symptoms. Your body suffers from the byproduct chemicals of ketosis so it won't do it so much that it stores fat. You'll shit the extra protein out. You typically won't shit excess fats out because the body can store them easily, but they digest slowly and can be missed. You'll almost never shit excess carbs/sugars out because they digest quickly and can be stored. Yes protein is the most superior macro to eat for cutting.

just gorged on a full bottle of pickled pepepers
100 calories

>>75326889
is that water or oil you are drinking?

>>75330184
Rip your asshole

I walked 2.5 hrs on treadmill, bout 40 min worth between 4-6 incline. Between that and other general walking I did my tracker says I did almost 19k steps (1350kcal).

Do I just eat to my calorie goal or should I eat a couple hundred extra calories to stay out of starvation mode? I'm already near my protein goal.

>>75330146
I dont think alcohol can be stored as fat anon

>>75330174
So if i think of each meal as its own thing, 100% being the entire meal, it should be 10 carb, 20 fat and 40 protein. Oh and 30 fiber?

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2019: 280 lbs
2020: 240 lbs
2023: 230 lbs
2024: 200 lbs
today: 168 lbs
BMI is finally 'normal' but I've still got a gut. I have some loose skin, especially under the upper arm, which disappears if I flex. It seems like it's tightening up a little bit but if so this is going to take a decade. It's not a big deal.
There's all kinds texture on my body now, like various tendons, muscles, and vascularity, that were previously covered in fat.
Really slow progress with some overeating and injuries and at no point was I consistent about anything except for tracking what I ate, but it feels really good to be on this side of it instead of on that side.
Thanks for the memes.
>>75329467
all American products are better outside of America because the degree of slop we feed ourselves is generally illegal.

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If i contract aids will i be able to sped up my weightloss?