just count the fucking calories

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Confess and tell me what do you plan to do to make up for your sins.
No free confessions today, you have to do better.

I want to start strength training soon in order to increase my TDEE. I have no idea how much protein I should eat or how I can eat enough without gaining fat. Calculating based on my current weight just seems like way too much.

>>75338639
use your lean mass, or just anywhere between 100-200g will be fine when you are starting just eat some type of meat with every meal and you'll be fine

Going to Orange Theory to finally add exercise to my weightloss journey, what should I expect?

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>>75338618
Ate a turkey sandwich at night. Still below my TDEE but I'm going to put a curfew on 8 PM for eating.

>finally lost The Weight and got skinnyfat after wasting 1/4 my life as a blob neckbeard in mom's basement
>now a saggy dyel in mom's basement
>couldn't even do girl push ups and had to struggle against them instead
>cowed by the 20lb dumbbell and had to go down to 5lbs because someone took the 10lbs set home with them
>those big machines with the cords on them got broken by teenagers and outright removed from the premises so I won't get to use them at all
>arms and tits numb from using muscles for the first time in 25 years
>feels good man
I'll keep trying pushups and look into getting a resistance band or something, I really cannot stand being so weak anymore. Thanks for subscribing to my livejournal and let me know if you have experienced similar zero-fitness woes so I can share in complaining with others

>>75338605
fat bros
i'm just 10 kg away from my ideal BMI

give me tips on how to reach and maintain that point for a while before i turn that leaness into muscle

im 74, need to reach 65~
for all the sag to go away, this is the hardest part isn't it, all of it stored in the stomach

>>75338678
>before i turn that leaness into muscle
you should have started lifting months ago my dude, get on that shit

>>75338681
nah, i still lift light weight
but i can't afford the protein to hit my goals

i found it harder to keep eating protein and lose weight still, ik everyone disagrees

so im focusing on light lifting and using more IF and cardio

Falstaff
Fatty Contest
241 lbs

One pound away from passing into Class 1 Obesity(low risk), and then it'll be overweight, then finally... I'll be human again. But other Anons were saying that you only really lose the "fat feeling" at 155? I'm aiming for 180 but should I be aiming for 155?

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I have been stuck at 176-178 pounds for three weeks now and just dont understand why.
I am lifting +cardio 5 times per week while only eating 1500 kcals WHAT IS GOING ON

>>75338706
Possible water weight retention. Try eating AT maintenance for a day.

>>75338706
>cardio 5 times per week
>only eating 1500 kcals
lmao retard you are legitimately harming your body

>>75338720
what will happen to his body

>>75338730
starvation mode
in 99.9% of cases it's bullshit and people just need to eat less, takes a special kind of retard to legitimately achieve this state on their own

>>75338751
I am not hungry nor anything, also the cardio is just walking on the treadmill for 30' after lifting

I've graduated from DXL. Now I can shop for clothes at normal people stores

>>75338618
I spilled my protein shake all over the kitchen floor then remade it with a banana and milk instead of water and yogurt. I'm going to actually work out.

Ok I need someone to help me with the math of my weightloss.
So when I was 18 I did a calorie counting diet while weighing about 220 pounds. I went down to around 1200 calories a day and I lost around 50 pounds in about 3 months. Now I wasn’t uber healthy or anything, I just ate less. So I still had jam sandwiches sometimes or drank milk (I’m an addict). The healthiest meal I made was microwaveable golden rice with a tin of mackerel every so often. Now I’m 29 and 280 pounds and starting to count again. But everywhere I look for a calorie calculator says I’ll only lose like 2 pounds a week? How did I lose 50 in 3 months before? If I’m going from around 3k+ calories a day to 1200, will that not speed up the process

>>75338703
I don't know about "fat feeling" going away from anything other than time as your self image adjusts, I still mindlessly move around like a boat and give people/objects too much clearance even though I'm smaller. Also still have a gut and love handles at 180lbs, so you'll likely need to keep it rolling if you want to fully eliminate those and not feel the fat at all.

By 200-220lbs moving around felt significantly easier and it only gets better the further you go. You'll be noticing and enjoying it before you crack 200 for sure. Best of luck

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Anyone know where I can get some decent Keto/Low-carb recipes?
I look online but all I find are 6 CHEESE FAT PASTA and BUTTER BLOCK BITES recipes made by faggots.

I hate this diet, but the doctor told me I have to do it... At least for a month.

I like cold foods and salads, but most those don't have enough fat/calories for the bulk unless I drown it in oil/sauce.
I'm way below my target calories and it's affecting me pretty adversely.

>>75338841
You're older now. Your body uses less energy. You might technically be an adult at 18 but your brain is still developing.

>>75338874
Just eat lots of meat for a month and not many carbs

>>75338841
(((doctors))) recommend 2 lbs a week max, and so every bot on the internet just parrots that back at people and calculators usually max out at that, but you can easily lose more if you are super fat
3500 calories is 1 lb, so to lose more than 2 lbs a week you need to cut more than 7000 calories off your week, which is 1000+ daily deficit on average

>>75338841
A lot of that was probably water. It's the same thing now, you'll see a lot of rapid loss that subverts your expectation of 2lb a week... and then it'll slow down. I was here around COVID and the general had so many people who became full doomer wojaks and hit all twelve stages of grief because they shat out 30lbs of water and then stalled hard.

Anyway, at 220 pounds you lost 50 pounds in 3 months (~12 weeks), which is about 4.17 pounds per week.

You mentioned cutting down to 1200. Assuming your maintenance calories were around 3000, your deficit was roughly 1800 calories per day.

3,500 calories = 1 pound of fat, so a 1800-calorie deficit per day results in about 1 pound every 2 days or about 3.6 pounds per week.

What you're doing now is fine, you're not the same age anymore and shouldn't expect the same results. If you really want to step it up then mix in some rolling fasts while you're still plump and can get away with it, you'll speed things along and even buck break past plateaus but it's not for everyone

>30lbs of water weight
Lmao wtf is this guy talking about

>>75338618
I won't hit my goal for the year because I had a few months where I ate too much daily and kept the same weight for a few months. Started year 241, was 289 at my highest last year and am 186 now. I could have been 165 or less if not for those failed months. I returned to being strict on my calorie restriction and lost 10 pounds in the last month but with the holidays coming up I probably won't hit my goal.
I will hit my goal though. It may change as I get closer to my goal weight and drop further. 6 foot and normies tell me 165 will be too thin but I still look in the mirror and see fat so I keep dropping my goal weight.

>>75338951
At 40%bf you would be toting over 150lbs of water weight, anything else I can tell you about your body?

>>75339010
>150lbs of water weight
My fucking sides

I'm dropping a few more lbs and I'm starting to get to the stage where my features are coming out on my face more.

I wore some nice clothes yesterday and noticed girls checking me out. I really wanna push this further and put on some muscle and get down to like 12% bodyfat.

Im getting older now and need to maximise what I got for my health and future. when I was pretty fat nobody paid any attention to me and saw me as a loser. It's sort of like when I'm overweight and sluggish everybody has no respect for me and it changes as I start to look better

Life is a game and I gotta play it. Gotta get fit and healthy

Why is gaining weight so easy but losing it so hard? It’s not fair.

>>75339219
eating stuff is easy
not eating stuff is hard

Unlocked som new veins on the back of my hand. Its prob my best visual that im actually making it

>>75338937
Yeah the water weight makes sense. I’m not sure if build size matters, either. I’ve always been quite stocky and carried weight better. But now my stomach has just ballooned almost into full blown beer belly (and I rarely even drink!). Honestly at this point, I’d be happy to drop back down to around 210-220. My old clothes would fit me again and my snoring wouldn’t annoy my gf anywhere near as much. I was about that weight when I met her and while I did sometimes snore, she never really had much of an issue with it. I’m interested to see how much weight I’ll lose this week. Im only going to weigh myself once a week when I go to hers. But she’s also kind of scared I’m going at it a bit hard (she thinks I should be eating 1700 a day) and I think she thinks I’m going to develop an eating disorder from it. But really, I need to go this headfirst into it. It seems obsessive but if I don’t check myself then I just won’t take it seriously enough and I’ll falter. I even round up calories by 10 or 20 just to make sure I have a wide margin of error. Eating 1120 and thinking it’s 1200 is better than eating 1250 and thinking it’s 1180.

>>75339235
My best visual was getting collarbones back. Felt so good

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>>75339234
For most of human history it was the other way around, hence the epidemic. We weren't programmed for abundance.

>>75339219
For sure. Feels like I have to grind for weeks/months to loose 5kg but can out it back in in just a couple of weekends. Guess thats just how it is.

cardio sucks man
why does it have to be so healthy. i don't wanna do this

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>scale go down today
>feel no happier or better
>sad that i even let myself get fat in the first place
>no one to even share the fact that scale go down
pain.

should you like lose weight first before lifting or just start lifing right away and do a body recomp?

>>75339311
If we weren’t programmed for it then we shouldn’t have evolved to gain to so much weight and so easily. Our bodies should have been able to shut down the parts of our brain that would want to eat more than is necessary

>>75339409
lose weight while lifting
your lifts won't progress (much), it's tough, and it makes your water weight yoyo annoyingly but you get the best results in the end

>>75339409
>>75339422

I've been struggling with this too. Because I read that if you building muscle at the same time not only can you increase your body weight on scale by the newbie gains but also the process of building muscle causes water retention. I dont wanna be seeing the scale stuck or going up for weeks....

>>75339387
We're here Anon. I'm proud of you for making the change now and progressing towards your goal.

So I can still drink a diet can of soda every so often, right? It’s 0 calories!

>>75339438
Thanks anon, to any anon here that has friends or family to notice or share the weight loss, you don't know how lucky you are. It feels so difficult going through this alone. But I'm determined to do it. I have 30kg to lose by next summer, I hope I can do it.

>>75339483
Yes, you can argue that you shouldn't drink those etc but in the calories in calories out it doesn't matter. If its 0 calories you're good. In fact I drink em sometimes to keep the cravings away.

Todays food plan:
>2 breaded chicken breasts in sesame seed buns at 750 calories
>a corned beef sandwich at 270 calories
>a bag of crisps at 130 calories
>half a pint of milk at 175 calories
That’s 1325 calories today. Easy peasy.

>>75338667
>cowed by the 20lb dumbbell and had to go down to 5lbs because someone took the 10lbs set home with them
You can do it! You should see pretty fast gains as long as you eat enough protein and are in a small caloric surplus.

>>75339515
>>a corned beef sandwich at 270 calories
doubt.
>half a pint of milk at 175 calories
>drinking calories
rookie mistake.

>>75339494
Yeah I feel like since it has a taste and it’s quite gassy it can kinda satisfy the hunger and cravings a bit. I’m trying to get used to just water and I’m drinking it while at work but I have some Pepsi MAX at home which is helping keep the edge off. It’ll also be handy if I go out with my girl and I can just drink that instead of looking like a cheap chump and asking for water

>>75339527
I drink pepsi max mostly, tap water where I live tastes like ass and probably has fluoride and estrogen in it from the women dropping all their pills and pads in the toilet...im also paranoid about drinking bottled water cause i know supermarkets leave them in the sun stored and the plastic cant be good for you. good water filters are expensive as fuck too.

you could try ordering sparkling water with lemon at restaurants i guess?

but yeah drinking a can of pepsi max usually lets me delay when i eat breakfast, sometimes by hours which helps keep my daily calories down without feeling super hungry.

>>75339428
>>75339422
My scale was stuck for 6 weeks and it went up over 2 kg. What you have to remember though is that you care about fat loss, not weight loss. Your fat loss will be still happening based on calories no matter what your scale weight does.

>>75339526
The sliced bread is 96 cal each. The slice of corned beef is 68 cal. Then add in a bit of butter. I’ll throw it up to 280 if that’s any better?

>Drinking calories
I concede that is a major weak point for me. I’m an absolute milk addict. This is already much better than the 3 pints a day I was drinking before at least. But yes, it’s something to work on

>>75338605
Bros, I've hit a plateau at my halfway point - scale hasn't moved in a month. Any tips for busting a plateau? Should I just keep riding it out?

>>75339557
I know this but if i dont see scale go down it not only demotivates me but im anxious and paranoid that i fucked something up and theres no way of knowing if i did fuck something up, feels like im coping saying to myself ''its just water retention'' even though i meticulously measure everything i eat and im at a 1000 caloric deficit.

>>75339566
>The sliced bread is 96 cal each.
what kind of bread is 96 calories? is this some ultra processed american bread?

>>75339568
Are you walking enough every day? Do you have a lot of weight to lose or just a few kilos? Whats your deficit? Is your food scale and tracking app accurate?

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>>75339580

>>75339594
UKfag here too, wtf? I've been trying to find low calorie bread and Ive never seen this. Are the slices super thin or something?

I really want to walk, and run once my bmi is a bit lower, but I've developed extreme agoraphobia over the past 6 months after I got laid off. I only ever go outside to take out my trash at this point and even that makes me panic. I feel trapped. I wish I could afford a treadmill but I can't spare a single penny.

>>75339608
>I really want to walk, and run once my bmi is a bit lower, but I've developed extreme agoraphobia over the past 6 months after I got laid off.
Are you me anon? I'm on the same boat, not joking. It's gotten better since I stopped taking the antidepressants they told me to take and I can go out on walks every other day. I luckily live in a somewhat quiet place and I go out when the streets are quiet like early morning or late at night. If you cant do that, consider buying a stationary bike or treadmill, you can find some relatively cheap ones on amazon or if you can buy em off a website that allows paypal you can use the pay in 3 payment plan.

If that's not an option either, at least do some pushups sit ups etc at home, buy some cheap dumbells too and do some workouts with them. It's something at least.

Hope you get better!

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>>75339599
Yeah pretty thin I guess compared to your usual bakers bread but I’ve pretty much always made sandwiches with this so I’ve never really known much different. Warburtons Medium Soft White is about the same calories as well so worth a look if you want some lower calorie bread. I know bread isn’t really healthy overall but it is filling so can help keep the hunger at bay

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Today's breakfast: Coffee
Today's lunch: Slop at work (probably a wrap)
Today's dinner: Extra lean ground beef

>>75339649
Yeah I try to avoid bread, but somedays i just really fancy a sandwich you know. Will try it next time i go shopping thanks.

>>75339589
Nothing has changed from what was working before. I'm currently 209lbs, down from 235 since last spring, goal of 185. Been going slow in hopes of minimizing rebound and burnout, but have tapered down the calories quite a bit over the course of things. There's not much more I can take out of my day to day diet without having a daily meltdown. Walking is solid, even got a slowly increasing number of miles of running in there. Weights 4 days a week. Minimal alcohol.

I knew as I got closer to goal I'd have to get more and more strict with the calories, but I'm nowhere close yet.

>>75339738
Thing is if you dont have a lot of body fat to lose and are near your goal, if you have a huge deficit for an extended period of time, it can stall you. You need to do moderate/small deficit and milk the fuck out of how much you can lose with it before increasing it by a small margin. Accuracy becomes very key at that point. You would also need to maintenance reset yourself for a couple of weeks before doing that too. This is something i heard from moreplatesmoredates, but beware as I said this is for slightly overweight not for obese people.

>>75339548
I don't get this logic at all. Those sodas are also going to be stagnating on a dust covered pallet in a distribution center for months before it finally reaches a store and then you, how is that any better? There's also your teeth to consider, even diet soda is going to fuck them up much faster than water. A bottle of water that possibly sat in the sun (they have distilled gallon jugs too?) is nothing by comparison.

Did that bmi/bf hand scanner thing at L fitness, I'm 233lbs
>26% bf
>34.4 bmi

Why the hell do I look more like I'm 35%+ bf

>>75339763
>I don't get this logic at all. Those sodas are also going to be stagnating on a dust covered pallet in a distribution center for months before it finally reaches a store and then you, how is that any better? There's also your teeth to consider, even diet soda is going to fuck them up much faster than water. A bottle of water that possibly sat in the sun (they have distilled gallon jugs too?) is nothing by comparison.
fair point. im gonna try and reduce the amount of pepsi max i drink this month by half, then lower it further.

how do i measure my bf %

>>75339790
caliper or body fat scale, neither is super accurate.

>>75337840
Fuck you it's great I love harmless harvest because it's the only brand I found that's ACTUALLY ONLY COCONUT WATER and no weird shit or sugar added. It's just 140cal that I like to hoard instead of eat.
>>75338102
Breakfast fucked my calories yesterday. I was just so hungry by the end of the day I had a big dinner of good macros, and a good reminder that breakfast beyond coffee uses uo calories I'll desperately want after a long day

>>75339387
Keep going Anon, know that some time from now everyone will notice with their eyes the results of the endeavor you went through, borrow the strength to keep going from that.

>>75339820
Thanks anon. Appreciate it.

>>75339760
It all makes sense, but I've still definitely got 25lbs of lard left. I'm wondering if I've just been at TDEE for 209 given my activity level, but it seems unlikely.

>>75339818
>breakfast
Pretty much my experience as well.
Not having anything for breakfast is several times easier than eating anything and then not overeating by the end of the day.

I tried eating a keto-friendly breakfast (black coffee, bacon, eggs) in case maybe it's the carbs specifically provoking the hunger but no - I got just as hungry from it as I would get from eating a sandwich in the morning.
An oatmeal (on milk, of course, I'm not a savage) for breakfast is somewhat manageable but not eating anything is still better.

>>75339846
I always go on the lowest activity setting i can when calculating my calories, better safe than sorry. also never calculate workouts/walks into your deficit.

what's something easy i can make with half a head of leftover cabbage

>>75339019
>what do you mean "the human body is mostly water?"

>>75339853
Same. With that in mind, it pegs me at 2200cal for sedentary maintenance. I'm definitely not eating that much.

>>75339856
add chicken and dumplings and make a tasty soup

>>75339790
Realistically, mirror

>>75339856
boil it cut it thin slices, then cook it in a pan with some low calorie pasta, chicken stock maybe a little bacon and seasonings.

Turns out persimmons have a shitload of calories.
It wasn't even that good.
I'd rather eat a chocolate bar for the same amount of calories than a mediocre persimmon.
Apples are cool, though.

At what point did you stop internally fist pumping every time you see scale go down? It's become so routine for me I'll see I've lost 0.6lb since yesterday and just log it then make breakfast.

It's not that I'm not happy or anything, it's just that it's my norm now I guess.

Detemmienation
Fatty Contest
183.9lbs
6'1"

>>75339987
i don't think i ever got really excited about weight loss

I binged on about 2000 calories worth of garbage last night, but otherwise I've stuck to my deficit recently. if I burn 2000 calories on cardio over the weekend is it no harm done? Or is it more nuanced than that?

>>75340110
Realise that to gain a pound you need to eat 3500 calories OVER your maintenance. Big picture. At worst you will have some water retention cause of the shit you ate or gain maybe a few 100 grams.

But doing more cardio cant help. Just dont overdo it.

>>75340172
>>75340110

>cant help
I meant it CAN help.

Damn I lost 30 lbs in a few months by just eating healthy foods OMAD. I don’t count calories or macros I just eye ball it.

Whenever I overcomplicated or obsessed over things I would lose 10 lbs and then give up. Anybody else similar?

>>75340184
Yeah when youre fat as fuck its easy to lose weight without being accurate. The challenge is picking a sustainable diet and losing weight closer to your goal. Dont get cocky.

>>75340110
2000 calories over maintenance or 2000 overall? Either way, one day isn't going to mean anything as long as you get back on the horse and resume eating at a deficit, it'll even out.

Don't try to factor in exercise as a counter balance to caloric intake/binges, it will NEVER be viable. Be a better friend to yourself and pre empt the suffering

24 hours into my 72 hour fast
not hungry but do feel a little weak

Can supplements break your fast and OR cause weight gain in any way? I take first thing in the morning
>omega3 fish oil
>multivitamin
>collagen
>matcha tea extract
>taurine

>>75340110
the only answer is to not binge on 2000 calories of junk food anymore

>weigh myself after a fasting day where i barely drank any water (yeah i know im retarded)
>96kg
>weigh myself the morning after an eating day before even pissing or taking a shit
>96kg
what

i quit bread and go for morning walks. that was it. lost 10kg since beggining of the year

>>75338706
Up your calories by 200 and up your cardio.

>>75340220
I will print this out and and put it on the wall, thank you for telling it how it is.

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>>75339856
Make okonomiyaki

>>75338751
Ooooo oh noooo I'm soooo scared that my body will start making fat out of thin air ooooo

>>75340397
It's a wider issue anon.

Starvation mode shouldnt be seen as your body locking down and making you keep more weight on for no reason

'Starvation mode' as people word it is your body becoming more lazy, more stagnant, and more hungry as your body prepares to deal with the drastic change in eating. When everybody has really bad leptin and insulin resistance being fat your body thinks that at 300lbs you're still underweight so when you take measures to drop weight your body shits the bed and really struggles to come to terms with sustained calorie deficits

It responds by trying to make you as lazy and unmotivated as possible to preserve calories while also boosting up hunger. It's why many cant keep the weight off. It's like pushing a boulder up Mt everest.

being slower and more gradual in your approach with a lot of exercise has better outcomes typically. Because better sleep, better exercise and a healthy diet that isnt a massive deficit helps to combat leptin and insulin resistance

>>75339360
Find a way to entertain yourself while you do it

Are you people actually claiming someone eating 1500 cals and doing cardio is in starvation mode? WHat the fuck lol

>>75340436
I replied to the oooo oh nooo guy without reading the original post Im just replying purely to the starvation mode comment.

I used to eat 1200 calories and run 5km and walk 5km a day (10km total) and that made me collapse after a few month

This time around I eat 1500 calories a day and run 5km and its stuck for a lot longer. I still feel the drop offs happening though I might have to take it easier

>>75340436
>>75340449
the very real adaptive thermogenesis / set-point theory he described is disparate from “starvation mode” rhetoric which generally encompasses more bullshit

you should have learned to mentally register anyone who even mentions ""starvation mode"" as a retard years ago, housewives believe that sort of shit

>Fasting and hungry as fuck with stomach constantly grumbling
>Go for a 8km walk
>Not hungry at all during, forget I havent eaten
>Not hungry for a few hours after I get home
huh

>>75340508
starvation mode is likely a misnomer but the metabolic adaptations that anon described are accurate

I had my butternut squash soup and an apple for lunch. I'm going to go on a long walk for lunch because it's 80 degrees out

>>75340542
sounds like a peaceful day

>>75340311
godspeed

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Wheres yakuza bro? I need to ask him about cslorue tracking in Japan, I really don't want to go ask /trv/ as they're likely to say
>muh vacation
>but you can't get fat on foreign food
>it's all healthy so who cares

>>75340414
i skipped both my brekkie and lunch today
haven't done so before

didn't feel tired or anything, am i safe from starvation mode

maybe i should not do this again tomorrow and wait a day

Does anyone want to circle jerk about being in a fat loss cult like blog posters?

> I start every morning with my lemon juice water. It gives me the strength to fight god every day and his temptations to make me fat. If I don't have it, I cannot stop myself from gooning in bacon grease all day until I collapse from exhaustion. My lemon water is the secret to my new keto morphic snake diet to cure my type 1 diabetes.

Fatty Contest
Detemmienation
183.9lbs
6'1"

>>75340871
The whole 'starvation mode' thing is something that builds up over time.

You can starve yourself for a few weeks but as you do so your brain is preparing an assault to eat big and get lazier

Just stay extremely steady and lose 500kcal a day. its the best way. Slow and study wins the race. Exercise and sleep is just as important if not more than your calories

>losing lots of weight
>it's all going from my upper gut and waist
>lower belly fat isn't going away so I just look pregnant

wtf. I know I need to keep cutting but I feel like I look worse than I did 20 lbs ago lol

Any of you guys who are getting close to the end notice the texture of your fat has changed a lot? Like when I hunch over or sit down to see what’s left of my gut, it’s like the fat has no structure left to it. It feels squishy and watery, like when I press it in it just kinda stays whereas before it would bounce back. Is this anything you guys have felt before? What does it mean?

>>75340943
Fuck man I feel this so hard. Fat disappears from my ribcage and upper waist area so quickly but the lower waist and love handles stay for so long. Add in the leaner arms and legs and I feel like I have a fucked build now

>>75340943
I know your pain. The shrinkage of my upper body only emphasizes my plump belly.
I'm having to tell myself this is a phase. It's temporary. It gets better. I've gone too far to stop now. etc.

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i've been eating like this 4-5 times a week and around 1k-1.2k for the rest of the week for the past month. a couple times i've gone out with friends and eaten a normal meal without thinking about calories.
is this gonna fuck up my health if i continue this for a few more months? i'm still hitting my protein requirements and getting mostly enough vitamins/minerals (also taking a multivitamin).
i also get around 10-15 min of resistance training (like some random youtube abs videos or whatever) and light stationary biking for maybe 50min a day
i'm 168cm 53kg, not trying to get ripped or anything, just lose weight.
haven't even felt like wanting to binge yet because i feel so full almost all the time (except after i shit) so i'll probably be using an adapted version of this kind or menu but at 1.5-1.7k calories once i hit my gw to maintain

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So guys, im 6ft 134kg. i've been eating 1500 calories a day. so i need to worry about the ''starvation mode'' meme? havent had any stalls yet apart from the occasional fluxuation of a half a kilo or so, but in the past 3 months ive had steady trending of losing weight.

>>75341032
No, eating 1500 kcal a day is nowhere near starvation.
It is however taking you to a 1000/day deficit or more, which can be difficult to maintain over the long run.
As always, be sure to take a daily multivitamin to avoid many of the pitfalls that can come with a restrictive diet.

>>75341073
>It is however taking you to a 1000/day deficit or more, which can be difficult to maintain over the long run.
I havent been feeling overly hungry these past 3 months and have not gone over it at all. i think my hunger has adjusted to it, and i feel comfortable with this, i usually just dont eat till like 16:00 or 17:00 allowing me to enjoy bigger meals.

i take a multivitamin of course first thing in the mornings along with fish oil capsules. you reckon i can stay at 1500 all the way to target weight or somewhat close to it?

I heard exercising a lot is a good way to expend energy and not be so horny all the time but its had the opposite effect im horny 24/7 now

>>75341032
no, that only happens once your bf% gets too low to compensate for the lack of energy. probably starts at 90kg for you, depends if you do actual resistance training or lots of cardio
if you eat actual nutrient dense foods, eat good fats, complex carbs, enough protein, youre not vitamin deficient etc etc its gonna be a while until you notice it.
t. 180cm 170kg -> 79kg fatass and i didnt count calories until i was sub 90kg, started roonin p much every day, 15k+ steps a day and strength training 4x a week on 1500 calories
felt like i was dying near the end, dont do that shit. its retarded
but for now, at your weight, youre gonna be fine. just look out for signals once youre sub 100kg i would say

>>75341080
That's good. Most folks in your shoes would struggle with hunger.
> you reckon i can stay at 1500 all the way
Maybe? I prefer to think in term of daily deficit. As you lose weight, your TDEE is going to go down too, so keeping your calorie intake constant effectively lowers your deficit over time. You'll see that on your weight chart as a softening of your weight loss slope.
That's not a bad thing, I think it's better to have a nice soft landing to your target weight rather than to crash hard into it and immediately flip your diet completely.
When you get closer to your target weight, consider boosting your protein macros to encourage your body to maintain its lean mass. Normally, it'd also help with satiety, but perhaps that part doesn't matter for you as much.
If you're doing any exercise, I'd suggest you stick to low-impact stuff for now, and only consider leaning harder into cardio and workouts once your BMI is comfortably into the "overweight" range. It sets up healthy habits you'll want to keep doing at maintenance, without risking hurting yourself by starting prematurely.

I think being in a heavy deficit for so long has made me depressed......

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>>75341169
yeah for sure, when im at 100kg or so im gonna go hard on muscle building, im focusing on being consistent with cardio atm to boost my fat loss, doing at least 40 mins 5-6 times a week on picrel bike.

>>75341151
thats what i thought, but i see alot ITT and on the internet in general people talking about ''metabolic adaptation'' but none of them talk about what body fat % that can happen on. it just makes sense that if you have that much body fat theres no way your body will be that retarded and stall hard.

>>75341187
Make sure you take a daily vitamin D supplement, on top of a solid basic multivitamin.
It sounds silly, but it made a huge difference for me, noticeable within 2 weeks.
If you still feel like shit after this, lower your daily deficit to 500 or so, and see if that helps.

>>75341209
Seconding vitamin D.

Seems to be making a massive difference.

>>75341187
Yeah, I realized I get pretty depressed/anxious when I go with a heavy deficit too.
Its not too bad when you realize its the calorie deficit that is causing it. Also ashwagandha works if things are going too hard.

2 days into keto. I would like to die now.

>>75341255
its a meme. i tried it once a few years back and a week in my body was telling me to stop, i followed all the retarded advise of keto cope-tards of drinking fluids etc, ate good sources of protein and fat.

its a fatcope, not sustainable, and doesnt work in the long run. plus there arent enough longterm studies to show what it does to your body after a few years.

balanced diet. work on your discipline.

>>75341255
You ever notice all the keto youtubers are perpetually fat? Months and years into keto?

>>75338618
Continue my diet and exercise until I am out of obesity, and from there eat at maintenance for awhile to get a feeling of what it takes for me to maintain for the first time in my life, and once I get there start eating at a a surplus and lift harder to switch mode to muscle gain

Been 8 months, went from 410 to 275, proven to myself that I have control and discipline, I just need to now beat off apathy for the rest of my life because in the end it's entirely a battle against that

>>75341187
I felt like that last week. Spent a few days where I ate casually around my TDEE and felt much better going back to a deficit.

>>75341293
>>75341309
my doctor says i need it until i get my blood sugar under control :-(

>>75338605
WHERE
I SAID WHERE
are the CUTE FAT LOSS ANIME NUNS AND THEIR DUCK COMPANIONS???? non nuns = no fun GTFO POSER SHIT THREAD SCRAP IT AND START ANEW.

Pasta used to be the biggest thing I'd binge on so I've completely cut it out for a long time. I think I'll try adding protein pasta back in

>>75341389
>doctor recommending keto
is he a strip mall doctor?

>down nearly 30kg, to something between 20 and 25% bf
>face looks exactly the same, going from my ID photo
what the hell man

>>75341410
The nuns and ducks are too sweet. If you have them everyday, you'll catch cavities.
Now eat your passive aggressive image, anon. It's good for what you've got.

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Almost binge ate when I got home from the office today due to not having eaten till 1pm.
Ate some cherry sours but only got a cup of them (150 calories)

Put them away and cooked my meal for Lunch:

5 oz Grilled Chicken Tenders
1 cup of fry cut potatoes
1 tbsp of ketchup


Feel much better and still only at 538 calories for the day. I do have Judo tonight and will be prepping for a Tourney coming up in November.

>always dodge our office catering
>Hmmm, today i will eat half of the most healthy looking sandwich from the catering
>Look it up after
>Half of a veggie sandwich from panera is 320 calories
What a waste of calories

>>75341597
One of the meat ones for the protein, remove top bread and the sauce on it
If you're a baller take two and remove all bread, not your problem

Not sure if this is the ideal thread to ask, but fuck it.
Doing an inpromptu 24 hour fast.
At the gym now.
Does protein powder in water break the fast?
All I’m doing otherwise is water, black coffee, and like a multivitamin this morning.
I’m assuming it does but thought I’d double check.

>>75341647
Definitely yes? Its sustanance.

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So close to hitting under 170...ounces to go.

Dropped about 20 pounds in 2 months so feeling like I need to slow down and refeed a bit. Doing a bunch of yoga in addition to weights and even with a weekly massage, I'm sore all the fucking time.

15 pounds to go. Maybe 25 more but I'd be happy to hold at 155 and continue building muscle with further fat loss.

I'm feeling great if you don't count the soreness and deep-core emotional turmoil going on. At least now I'm doing stuff that's good for me, I'm optimistic, and developing tools to help. So, honestly, I'm feeling pretty good despite random outbursts of tears or screaming.

Gonna go ride my bike before yoga and maybe walk my goodboy if I can.

I love you guys. We're already making it just being here and having found eachother. I hope you soar past all of your wildest dreams.

>>75341589
Looks tasty. How long you been doing Judo?

>>75341676
It seemed borderline as a supplement, but ok.

Currently at around 1000 calories for the day. If I just stay away from the fridge, that will be a good deficit for today.

O shit boys, the reveal of when Nakocado started his weightloss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iUboSE-14w

Do you lose calories from vomiting in general or is it only immediately after eating food? Not thinking of going the bulimia route or anything, just feeling a bit ill and at least vomiting could be a positive result

>>75341816
This is the first time I have ever seen this person in motion
Damn he is literally doing a clown act that's crazy

>>75341647
protein powder is just food anon

>>75341838
He got millions of dollars from getitng fat while we did it for free. Smart dude.

>>75341707
2 years now

>>75341344
>went from 410 to 275
Bro you are so based it's unreal

>>75341692
Good job bro. Just also hit 170, from 185. That was my initial goal.
Now I’m at the point of keep pushing. See if I can get an actual flat stomach.
I wanna die.

>>75340979
Your fat volume is lower but there's still excess skin.

>>75341589
Weird question but how old are you, I get a 25 vibe but also 32

>>75341986
Appreciated bro, wagmi

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Just finished Mr inbetween. What do I watch next for my daily 1 hour of treadmill boys?

>>75341816
mfw nico and I look like brothers and both have same voice...

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>>75342085
3 episodes of Lain

>>75342095
>anime
I may be fat, but I'm not gay.

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>>75342100

has anyone completed a diet longer than 12 weeks?

>>75342107
>completed
no, cause im still in it. this is month 4 for me. gets boring after a while, you can only have so much variation of chicken lean beef potatoes and rice.

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Lunch walk. But...I got banana pocky and a coffee milk at the Japanese store so will have to skip dinner.
I did also get roasted barley tea that I love and will drink during my fast days

>>75342117
who is limiting you to that?
you can eat fatty foods while dieting you know, so long as you're fine eating a bit less of them. i'm hunting down new recipes and learning how to cook shit weekly

>>75342085
For me it was My 600-lb Life

>>75342128
Nah i wanna watch that when im done with weight loss so i can laugh at them while eating normal foods and pretend they can watch me eat, but they cant have any.

>>75342107
I did 15 weeks then took a 3 week break, now I'm on week 1 of phase 2. I'm only like 1/3rd of the way there, best not to think about it.

>>75342121
Yes i know. And i do sometimes. today for example i skipped breakfast and had chicken tenders with some skin on wedges. but i cant do that every single day. its the only way i indulge, i skip 1 meal whenever i feel like having something i like. worth the sacrifice.

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>>75342121
Recently tried hasselback potatoes with salt and pepper and chili flakes. Its so fucking good with any meat. theyre basically 1:1 gram to calories ratio.

I get so excited when I find a new food I can eat that is low on calories.

You can theoretically lose weight just eating junk food, right? As long as it’s below your calories required to maintain your weight?

>>75342193
sure
it's just not a smart thing to do for like 5 different reasons

>>75342193
so many people look for a shortcut or a ''cheat''. you cant sustain eating junk food when to keep at a deficit you have to eat so little.

pick something you can do for years as your diet. dumbass, or you will end up getting all the weight back on.

>>75342200
True, it’s just interesting to think how many people do diets and go crazy because they have to stay away from junk food but you could really have a medium meal at McD’s every now and again that still would only be about 800 calories meaning you could still easily be below for your daily amount. But I guess for some people they don’t have the willpower to stay away from it completely and could easily devolve into overeating bad shit every day again

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>>75338605
how often should a (non-fat) person fast? i'm fasting first time today, just did 23 hours, was thinking of doing it once a week because i felt great the whole day. i'm getting hungry atm and not sure if i should eat now, after 24 hours of fasting, or tomorrow when i wake up, so around 36 hours. would that be overkill?

I'm seeing my doctor tomorrow to check in on my diet/wellness/whatever.
When he did my annual wellness check a few months back, he didn't bother ordering a CMP, nor a CBC, nor a urinalysis. All I got was lipid, diabetes and BMP.
Meanwhile, I'm drooling while staring at web pages that sell a Life Extension Male Panel (Elite) Blood Test that tests for a whole lot more, and feeling like there's a bit of an impedance mismatch between me and my doc..
So I guess I'm going to try and hit him up for all the tests anyway. Maybe I'll be very lucky and get him to order a testosterone check.

>>75341714
You think NEGRONI'S BIRTHDAY CAKE FLAVORED PROTEIN ASS BLAST POWDER doesnt count for fasting? Kekw

>>75341714
Sure, there's an argument to be made that protein powders are supplements, but that's not really relevant for fasting.
The line for fasting isn't "is it a supplement" but "does it provide calories."
If you're taking some medication that happens to provide literally 3 calories from its excipient, that's probably not considered fast-breaking.
Drinking 100+ calories is a different matter.

>>75342150
>potatoes
>low calorie
>any nutritional value whatsoever
oh no no no

>>75338616
5600 calories since monday.

>>75342561
carbs = energy
potatoes are best calorically dense carb source with the highest satiety
Only reason to balk them is if you're doing 0 carb which is kinda crazy

>>75342593
the best carb that's the least calorically dense*

>>75342593
the fact that you can afford to eat useless carbs in a deficit that aren't part of a protein source means you aren't eating enough protein

>>75342631
midwit found.

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>>75342631
They taste good.

>>75342869
I wanna eat Culvers...

>>75342915
>yeah this burger needs two tablespoons of butter
>Fries? Nah we can do better than that, fried cheese curds with ranch
>and a root beer float to wash it all down :)
The midwest must answer for its crimes

What is the absolute fastest way to lose weight? I am not a retard so I won't gain it back. The reason I'm even fat is because of psychological issues and lack of things to do. Both of these I hope will be fixed soon.
I am doing one meal a day right now. I think I'll aim for 1000 calories.

>>75342988
>I am not a retard so I won't gain it back
Famous last words

>>75342988
People think the absolute fastest way to lose weight is to fast, also known colloquially as starving yourself.
But of course that's wrong.
The absolute fastest way to lose weight is to contract a tropical disease that causes you to shit yourself all day every day for months, keeping your bedridden, sweaty, and unable to put anything in your stomach without violently throwing up. Trust me on this.
With that said, if that doesn't sound like the fantastic idea it is, you could always try the follow the directions at the top of this post.

>>75342988
>I am not a retard so I won't gain it back.
>I am doing one meal a day right now. I think I'll aim for 1000 calories.
Lol, lmao, even.
It's a lifestyle change. You're going to have to hold yourself accountable, or have someone else hold you accountable.

>>75342150
Tell me more about this anon, it seems like between The butter and oil I see in recipes plus the fact that potatoes have calories would make this not very low calorie after all?

>>75343095
potatoes are 75calories per 100 grams. insanely filling. you can forego any oils or butters or do very little oil, seasoning matters more. theyre really good as the skins get crispy and the inside is nice and fluffy.

>>75343102
Interesting, what temperatures do you cook at and for how long given potentially less or no oils?

>>75343114
its pretty much the same as a baked potato, make sure you clean the outside very well before, you season after you carve them, temp cooking time will depend on the size of the tater. but i usually go around 180c-200c and i just keep checking with a knife if they are tended to my liking inside, usually about 45 mins for the size of taters i use. you can lightly cover them with some olive oil to crisp up the skins and for flavour if you can afford the calories.

>>75343130
Noted, I will grab a potato next time I'm shopping and report back

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>>75342120
FUCK. Actually it wasn't so bad

>>75343145
theres so much you can do with potatoes that arent high in calories for the amount of filling food you get some quick examples
>potato salad with low/no fat cream cheese and w/e meat you want
>baked wedges in a bit of olive oil with lemon juice and oregano
>air frier fries
>baked
>lemon pepper in the oven (i bake them with some chicken stock lemon juice and pepper they suck up all the liquid and come out super tender and tasty)
>mashed, just dont add butter and shit, do a bit of low fat milk

>>75338605
been eating 850 cals for the last week and its going well. how do i go about growing a butt? dont have the nicest one but i want to work on it. is it not even worth if if im not getting enough proteins in. im undereating but i dont want to increase my calories.

>>75341761
I did not succeed. I must find better ways to resist.

>>75343212
The vast majority of people will fail if they have to "resist".
Find a way to be at a deficit that relies less on your willpower.

>>75343175
You're in the wrong thread this is for fat asses

>>75343169
Potatoes are pretty keyed. Like eggs

I managed to do a shit after the coffee. I'm my lowest yet! It's happening

Been eating 1300 calories and my dick just isn’t working anymore?? Wtf??

>6'2 248
>tdee ~2350
>consume1250 for the day
>not hungry, in complete control of my appetite
>another successful day, on pace for a two pound loss this week
>read 2392 posts about "starvation mode" and fucking up metabolism
>worry i'm fucking up my metabolism
>force myself to eat 500 more calories
>i guess i'll just lose 1 pound this week instead
maybe i should stay off the internet it's just slowing me down

>>75338874
Look up chaffles, basically you make waffles out of eggs, cheese and a bit of other stuff. You can make a sandwich out of them that is full keto and tastes delicious, you won't even miss the bread. The trick is to add a bit of almond flour, it masks the eggy taste.

>>75342988
if you’re fucked up enough to get fat and stay fat you are definitely fucked up enough to get fat again

>>75343349
testosterone is a finicky hormone. Too fat? no testosterone for you. Starving yourself? no testosterone for you.
IDK man. maybe don't go into huge calorie deficits, see if it helps.

>>75343404
How did you see all those posts about starvation mode but still miss the vast majority of them pointing out it's complete horse hockey?

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>>75343102
>>75343114
Since you guys brought up potatoes I thought I'd share a couple delicious ones I made. And yes, I buttered and salted the skin before it became so so crispy and delicious.

Lads my wife keeps asking if I'm done losing weight. She asked why I want to lose more. She's making heavier meals and wanting to go out. She's making a lot of """jokes""" about me having an affair or just leaving her. She's lost weight too, but proportionately (i did the math) i Lost a lot more. If I make us the same height (my height) and make BMI even, I lost 66lbs and she lost 34. My BMI is now 26. Hers is 31. She lost SOME weight, a decent bit too, but now she seems more interested in getting me fat or at least keeping me chubby. Do all women do this shit?!

>all these retards shilling potatoes
>75 kcal per 100g is "good"
riced cauliflower is 24 kcal per 100g. just as filling as a potato.
chicken breast is 120 kcal per 100g. has 23g of protein in it.
two examples. choose literally any other option to eat. you are all being led astray.

>>75343531
i am neurotic and give more weight to the words of doomers, very unfort

God it’s crazy being a fatty and coming to terms what the average person eats a day. I’m not even sure how they do it. 2.5k calories is nothing. You basically can never snack or eat desserts. How the fuck do people do it??

>>75343787
Yeah, my husband is too autistic to ever wander but there's a primal like urge in me to keep him fat, to keep other women away from him

>>75343843
I'm on 1750 calories a day. I snack on unsalted roasted nuts throughout the day, which I roast myself because store bulk roasted nuts are barely roasted at all (30-40 minutes at 280F, good flavor, minimal acrylamide.)
In accordance with the law of equivalent exchange, my breakfast can only consist of proteinated coffee.

>>75343869
My wife felt a bit insecure when I started to lose weight, but I think she came to the same realization as you did, that I have absolutely no game and there's really no threat here.

>>75343843
>www.reddit.com/r/Volumeeating/
tldr: eat things that fill you up for less calories. you can snack and eat dessert, you just have to plan for it and not overdo it.

>>75343869
But I assume you still find him attractive? So what’s to say other women won’t find his chubby ness attractive as well? Maybe you should make him incredibly obese to the point you don’t even find him attractive and call it a day there

>>75343787
>>75343889
My gf is trying to lose weight as well and I’m scared she’s going to get mad at me for losing more weight at a faster pace than her

>>75343889
>>75343787
It could also be she's not that motivated to keep losing weight herself, and standing next to the fitter you makes her look bigger

>>75343927
Maybe she's scared you're going to get mad at her for not losing as much weight as you tho..

>>75343891
>unironically linking reddit

>>75343936
>2024
>still pretending 4chan is the only place for information

how come none of you post pics of your bodies on here?? too ashamed? you could post progress pics to motivate

>>75343948
> too ashamed?
Literally yes, and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm ashamed.

New low today. Reps til I'm out

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>>75343948
>posting images of yourself to 4chan
Enjoy your metadata being scraped and waking up to a psycho slitting your throat

>>75343998
Nice work anon

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Ive been wanting to lose weight for years but every time Ive tried I just eventually forgot and bounced back. Is it time to kill myself?

>>75341589
Chicken looks good. How you do you chicken?

Fatty Contest
Endless
101.3kg

>>75343998
>pulled from reddit

>>75344027
Yes, but only if you're 35+
If 34 or under just keep trying.

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>>75344058
tell me you're not motivated

>>75344076
Show me your real body Mr. Cave Troll

>>75343948
I'm not keen on getting ripped to shit or being accused of attention whorinh

>>75344072
>tfw 35+ and still trying
ngmi :(

>>75344114
yagmi
don't lose hope, I believe in you

>>75344078
haven't posted a picture of myself online since 2010, not sure why i'd start now. i didn't even take a before pic to motivate myself.

>>75342561
>potatoes
>no nutritional value
God damn why do the dumbest people always have the most bullheaded opinions? They are one of the most nutrient dense foods on the planet. You can eat nothing but potatoes and suffer almost no nutrient deficiencies. They are as close to the definition of a super food as you can get. On top of that they have the highest calorie to filling ratio of almost any food out there. Shitting on the humble potato has to be one of the most low IQ takes I have ever seen on this general. Absolutely embarrassing post.

>>75342207
Fuck you I'm going on the snickers diet, just you wait I'm going to show the world.

>>75344167
stay fat, bro
NGMI

>>75344179
No argument, concession accepted. Keep digging that hole and embarrassing yourself showing how little you know about food and nutrition.

>>75343948
I'm planning on it once I've lost a hundred pounds, hopefully before the end of the year. There's not much to see though, I honestly can't see any difference.

>>75344178
I was trolling through MFP and looking at how ive eaten and lost weight over the past, surprised me how often I ate a snickers bar during my deep weight loss phases. There wasnt much else but snickers were definately a regular happening

Obeseguy here. I'm new to the board.
My apartment just opened a gym as a perk for tennants, so I figured I really don't have an excuse anymore.
I tried the machines they had in place and was able to max everything out without too much of an issue. I guess it's just because I weigh so much that a 250-350 lb machine cap is normal for me? I don't know.
Where should I go from here? There are some free weights and some machines that let you stack some weights on either side. Should I move to those?
How do I not hurt myself? I really don't want to fuck myself up by rushing into this, and the dedicated machines with pictures and instructions attached just don't compare with the sheer mass of my normal body.

>>75344475
>the dedicated machines with pictures and instructions attached just don't compare with the sheer mass of my normal body.
Maybe I should just move my body then? Is that a thing? If it's the heaviest thing I jave around should I just, like, shit, I don't know. Move everything? There's got to be a word for this that I can search for instructions.

Trying to squeeze 3 meals into 4hrs is tough, Im two in and about to have 3rd but not hungry at all, but I need the proteins and calories to get me through the next 20hrs. Im not sure really if what im doing is right but im down over 2lbs already this week. Ill fine tune as I go

>>75344475
I'm not a gym person either. I put together a small home gym with dumbbells and a bench and I'm having fun hurting myself that way, without any witnesses. So I don't have much insights into all the strange machines they probably have at your gym.
The common advice I remember seeing on /fit/ is to use barbells, and basically start with bench press, squat and deadlift at an appropriate weight. I'm sure there are many nuances to this that I'm just not equipped to offer. You should really have someone show you the ropes and perhaps spot you. As I understand it, it's quite easy to hurt yourself by misusing a barbell.
But taking a step back, have you read the top post in this thread? Nutrition is more important than going to the gym, especially if you're obese. Your main focus should be to lose weight first, preserve lean mass second, gain lean mass a distant third.
My recommendation for you would be to take your time reading up on strength training and don't really worry about doing it right now. Instead, focus on tweaking your diet so you start to lose weight consistently. If you want, start conditioning your body by doing some low-impact cardio regularly, ideally every day.
I'm hesitant to recommend working out at your weight, because you'll be a lot more likely to hurt yourself than you would once you lose some weight.
>>75344499
You may be looking for the word "calisthenics". Planks, push-ups, chin-ups, pull-ups, etc.
Again, I'd recommend you take it easy with those, although to their credit most of them tend to be low-impact exercises.

>>75338618
I fornicated and now I am worried it may be STD related instead of the flu. Plan on getting tested asap.

For fat loss, how would you eat on lifting days vs not lifting days? macros etc?>

>>75342323
36 hours is fine if you can go to sleep hungry, once a week is fine, that poo rishi sunak claimed he did weekly 36h fasts

>>75343175
hip thrusts, RDL, and squats, with heavy weights in the 8-12 rep range

how long to lose 20 lbs from non clean eating 500-800cals a day with no exercise at all

>>75343948
Yes. I've been at this too long to look this shit.

>>75344760
Depend on your starting size.
If you just started out, and have a lot of fat, not very long actually.
800 kcal/day is a very severe calorie deficit for most people and you'll lose a bunch of water weight rapidly when you'll introduce that deficit, so you'll drop anywhere from 5 to 10 lbs in a couple of weeks before it slows way down.

I'm 5'10'', male, 35 years old, 195 lbs. Looking to get down to my ideal body weight but I work an exhausting job moving furniture and lifting boxes so I can't go on a fast. I'm looking for nutritionally complete meal plans so I don't end up causing myself any health issues like fad diets do.

>>75344760
3500 calories = 1 lb of fat
70k calories = 20 lbs
so all depends on your deficit, if you do a 1k daily deficit it will take 70 days

>>75344884
Chicken, potatos, brocoli every meal.

>>75344892
Which reminds me, I should buy some potato chips.
I have Dr Pepper in the fridge after all.

>>75344921
switch to diet coke

>>75344892
That sounds like terrible nutrition advice

>>75344941
stfu aspartame is terrible

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This is a sustainable diet, right?

>>75344949
Its not as bad a non diet sodas.

>>75344954
That's a lie. But then again, you drink aspartame daily so I can't expect you to think clearly.

>defending drinking full slop soda
Ngmi

>>75345066
I only brought it up as an alternative,
at the end of the day, consuming something that's lower calories will inherently be healthier than consuming the higher cal version.

asparatme is fine retards, brainless conspiracy theorists and commies have been trying to boycott coca cola since the late 90s over it and there is still NOT A SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that it's bad for you after over 25 years, this imbecile is just parroting blackpilling "le everything is le cancer" bullshit

by the way, post body

>>75345110
you dont get to tell others to post body without posting ur own first,

i just want him to shut the fuck up at once and avoid a pointless discussion, i know he's scouring google for bullshit studies that prove fuck all
if aspartame is so bad why don't you start class action lawsuits in every country which allows it to be sold (last i checked no country on earth has restrictions on it), prove your schizo ramblings in a court of law, get a gorillion dollars from coca cola and become the wealthiest 4chan shitposter in history

Upped my calories from my suicidal 800-900cal deficit to 500cals and the difference is insane. I no longer feel depressed and feel much better overall.

Going to do another 7 weeks like this. Then eat at my new maintenance for a few weeks before going back. It's been 8 months solid of dieting like a retard and falling off the wagon but this feels much more sustainable for the last 50-60lbs I need to lose initially.

>>75345146
I envy you. Anything below a deficit of 1000 gets me zero results and even then I'm regularly plateauing.

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good riddance, I fantasize about the dead guy being a regular in these threads, one of those fat crybabies always making confessions

>>75345167
how short are you?

>>75345206
5'1", only eating 1000 calories per day on average.

>>75345167
>>75345220
You are just a retard that sucks at calculating his TDEE

>>75345220
wow, that's pretty small, are u a (biological) woman perchance?

>mayhaps you shall bless us with a crumb of pussy?

>>75345229
The one in the OP said it's 2200 so I assumed it was inaccurate and rounded it down to 2000.
>>75345234
No. I'm just cursed.

>>75345252
wtf how are u a male and 5'1 then, are you sure ur not a woman? i think youre lying to me

Losing weight is about what you are not doing. If you eat small meals you can still lose weight even if you are sedentary. That is doing. If you diet and run really hard you will drop weight really fast, even a treadmill. Same with fasting, but fasting must be done safely. Lots of water and four cups of coffee a day or less is good for water fasting.

>>75345258

>That is doing less.

Fasting religiously is different.

Fasting to lose weight for fitness can be good.

Small meals and hard exercise will work even faster.

>>75345254
Short parents and not getting enough to eat as a kid which led to me compulsively overeating when we were able to afford food again.

>>75345261
ok keep playing hard to get, i see how it is.

>>75345110
There's tons of evidence you blind dipshit. You're one of those people who believes what you want to be true. Just go read the Wikipedia articles and you'll see there's a lot of evidence it's bad, and corporations like Coca-Cola are lobbying for it. By all means, trust Coca-Cola with your health, I'm sure nothing ill will come of you.

Earnest question here.

I'm close to my goal, maybe around 10 more pounds to go. But lately I've been wondering, why does all of this matter? Yes I do feel a little bit better overall, I don't feel like a lardass anymore and I can wear most shirts without feeling like a piece of shit.

However will reaching my weight goal and keep lifting actually improve things in general? I'm still lonely as fuck and I have no gf or friends. I don't want to stop but I feel demotivated because I don't really see the light on the other side.

And yeah, I'm aware that outer appearance is just a factor in the grand scheme of things but yeah. Has anyone's overall life/ social life actually improved significantly after losing weight?

>>75345292
>read the wiki page
Lmao

>>75345302
Achieving and sustaining good weight loss takes discipline and dedication, which you can then apply to other parts of your life too to improve them just as you did your physical health
Are there any hobbies you have that you can look around to local groups for to help with loneliness? Like a book club, hiking group or some kind of art group.

>>75345302
>be lonely and depressed with no gf or friends
vs
>be lonely and depressed with no gf or friends, plus you are fat
hmmmmmmm tough choice, really makes you think.............

>>75345292
>appealing to wikipedia
that guy is a fucking moron for defending soda at all but come on dude, you torch your own argument doing that

how much water weight did you guys lose? I lost 4 pounds today. On day 5 of diet.

>>75345302
motivation is a very personal factor in the end so we can't really answer for you, but maybe you can get some perspective

my motivations are, in order of importance:
> to be healthy long-term, live longer and have higher quality of life as i age
> i'm basically a voluntarily asocial hermit, and being fit satisfies my vanity. if you're asocial and an ugly fatso, it's expected that you're just a garden variety 'loser' and if you claim it's on purpose people will (rightfully) smirk at you. if you're attractive and have money then you gain credibility, people have no choice but believe you
> looking better generally makes me feel better about myself

i'm pretty sure my life won't change at all now that i've lost a ton of weight (other than the health part) but I'm feeling a lot better about myself and it's become much easier to blow off annoying relatives asking me why i don't have a gf

I are 600 kcal yesterday. Are you proud of me?

>>75344167
Not quite true. If you add milk to it then you're right.

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>>75345110
I think it’s still fair to be skeptical. Companies like Coca Cola have always done shady shit. They’ve paid off doctors to promote their drinks as healthy, actually and helped fund paramilitary death squads. It really wouldn’t shock me that they’ve used an artificial poison in their diet drinks. It’s not like they care if they give people cancer

>>75345581
there's a difference between being skeptical and being a retard

being skeptical is saying, "I avoid sneed oils, they seem unnatural to me, I prefer to use butter"

being a retard is saying "lmao sneed oils turn you into a woman, everybody knows that so i refuse to elaborate"

>>75344941
No, I will not.

>>75345684
>>75345684
>>75345684
new thread

>>75345622
If sneed oils made you a woman, femboys would mainline it.
I used the calculators and figured out I could cut to 1500 cals/ day. I exercise six times a week.
At 230 lb, five nine, how do I trouble shoot to know if I am just being fat or if I am pushing too low on calorie consumption?

>>75345581
I wonder why you guys keep fantasizing shit to be upset about when there's already plenty of shit to be upset about in reality. Coca-cola as a company has a very dirty past. Even as recently as this year, where they got shitcanned for skimping out on upwards of $16 billion in taxes.

>>75345137
lmao you people will do literally anything but give up your junk food. Fatmind is real.

>>75343948
just look through some archived generals and you will find some.
i remember posting some but i wont post them again since i still look hideous after losing a lot of weight