Pic related is the result of 4 months of testosterone. In today's climate, if you ain't cheating you ain't trying. There are a million elements of modern life designed to make you weak and subservient, and a few based ones like steroids and public gyms that make you stronger. In the year of our Lord 2024, all western men are recommended to hop on gear.
I can tell you’re secure with your progress by the way you’ve posted this 3 times in a week so far
>>75367192Kek
>>75367187i'd do roids but i dont want my dick to stop working
>>75367192I honestly feel like I have a moral obligation to spread the word to other men in their 20s.
Nothing but factsIf you even need to compete in modern dating games you NEED to be on gearNo excuses
is it true that the jews hate an educated white roidhead?
>>75367511Not sure about Jews, I get glares mainly from men in their 40s at the gym
>>75367187>if you ain't cheating you ain't tryingI disagree.
>>75367192FPBP
>>75367187>Roiding for thisEmbarrassing tbqh
>>75367598do you look better than that
>>75367606Maybe not, but at least I have visible abs and functioning balls.
>>75367639bro you're like 50 years oldalso what the fuck are you doing in the gym, clearly you're disciplined but you have no chest or arms
>>75367650I'm 25, and I never train chest or arms.
>>75367187The normies are too scared to pin themselves
>>75367653why
>>75367662Because I don't want to. I'd rather do other things.
>>75367653Your feet should be closer to parallel. Standing "V" is incorrect posture.>says whoHuman anatomy strongly suggests it.
>>75367192>Lifting grants not just gains but body dysmorphia
>>75367187thanks but I'd rather have my dick still working in my 30s
>>75367187>Just Do RoidsFirst off....Just doing roids is no guarantee you'll get even OP's results. You'll need baseline genetics, regimen, and diet to get "good" results. If anyone of these is lacking it'll be for nothing.(I.E. "roiding for this")Second. The moment you stop you'll lose your gains. You never learned how to get to your genetic potential naturally, hence it's a crutch. Since with roids you can get away with poor genetics, diet, workout technique, etc...Third. If you DID take the time to learn how to "make it" naturally..... ya just might realize that, "Hey, I don't need to hop on gear." OP's results are definitely most assuredly achievable natty. I promise you.And finally... depending on the dose(blasting, cruising, Hrt dose...whatever) you'll be sacrificing your health. And if you're taking a high enough dose eventually you'll be forced to stop or suffer potentially existential heath ramifications. And forget about doing ANYTHING else unhealthy while pinning(smoking, junk food, alcohol, drugs) cuz you'll def hasten health problems.And so, if you're impatient, willing to risk your health, and have no desire to see your natural potential... go ahead. BUT. Even with roids you still just might look like shit. Only now your balls don't work, hairline's receding, you got hypertension and a whole slew of impending potential health problems somewhere in your future the root of which may or may not be due to roids.Choose wisely. I honestly and truly do not blame you either way.
>>75367192Haha gottem
>>75367187pic related could murder your manlet ass with one punch, why should i put my money into intravenous drugs and not tacos and burritos instead?
Color me intrigued, some questions:>how much size have you kept since coming off?>did you get bloods done pre/post? how are they looking?>cycle length?>what did you take and what was the dosage?>did you get it done via a clinic or did you buy it yourself and dose it all yourself?
>>75367667so based
Left looks better
You can already see the gyno developing on his left nipple LMAO
Would roids help me escape MIB alien mode?And no— I won’t lift natty
>>75367833got that adesanya titty
>>75367187I'm very visibly low test but idk how to even get test
OK SO BEING REAL. CAN I DO ROIDS WHILE CUTTING (BEING KINDA SKINNYFAT), GET AWESOME ABS, GET OFF ROIDS AND KEEP A GOOD LOOKING CORE?
>depending on vials of engineered hormone as a supply of masculinityIt’s just too gay to even consider. No thank you
>>75367751>OP's results are definitely most assuredly achievable natty. I promise you.have you achieved them naturally?
>>75369033Not the same poster but come on, it’s absolutely achievable natty. I understand the argument of years vs months but OP is still at a natty physique. If he stays at this for his life on roids it’d be awful
>>75367653>I never train chest or arms.we can tell
>>75367653What the fuck, anon?
>>75367187I am genuinely a cut away from your after picture naturally, and had to sacrifice nothing of my balls for it and I will look like this for my entire life lmao
>>75367187Lol forearms?
>>75367187i keep some vials of test enanthate around in case i need to be big and strong for something in the near future but i don't pin bc the hassle/patience of drawing and sticking the first time was enough to make me think better of it. plus i'm still progressing steadily "natty"
>>75369169so you don't look like that?post body
>>75367598He looks good. Goals
>>75367243>>75367187different watch and other oddities why different backgrounds?looks like different person.
>>75369169>I am genuinely a cut awayalright, cool.>I'm just a bulk away from being as big as ronnie coleman>I'm just one investment away from being a millionaire>I'm just...doesn't mean shit unless you actually do it or have done it
>>75367780i could murder him with 5 guys with baseball bats and knives. being able to fight good doesn't make you tough, mma fags are delusional. only thing that matters is balls and how far you are willing to go. violence is never a controlled environment.
>>75367187I support your gender-affirming care.
What about SARMS?They are not illegal as steroids.
>>75367187You will never get off roids now, and if you do, you'll be worse off than before you started.The difference isn't even that big. You could have accomplished that with a little discipline.
>>75370169nope, you will always keep the permanent boost you get from increased satellite cells from roiding. And you have about 1% chance of not recovering to your former natty levels, it is rare indeed to not bounce back to where you were, The scientific literature supports my claims.
>guys used to do straight dbol or anavar, no PCT>made huge gains and many of them are still doing fine todayWhy not
>>75369033>have you achieved them naturally?I'll let you decide.
>>75367909any DHT bases
>>75370399This guy is on steroids
>>75369521Are you seriously this delusional lmaoAh yes different watch and bathroom must be two seperate people, ignore all the body parts like hands, wrists, nips, and waist that are obviously the same
>>75371020>This guy is on steroids Thank you. But what's the point of providing evidence OP's enhanced gains can be achieved naturally if you're just not gonna believe it?
Gentlemen. I want to gain 70 lbs of muscle mass in one month. How many protons and roids do I need?
>>75367192kek
>>75370399saaaaaaar
>>75367187Left looks like a regular guy but with good genes, strong and got his body doing sports and living a healthy life.Right looks like he only cares about going to the gym, eats whey shakes all day and click likes on pictures of cars on facebook all day.You were top 10% easily of natties and looking good, now just some mediocre roidtranny with noodle arms, non working dick and still a self esteem so low you need reassurance every day by posting here.
>>75371726>right is bad because loser on 4chan thinks it looks too good and associates it with random things
>>75367187Was this a test only blast or was it something else?
this vid makes me feel like I should start taking steroids, the only thing stopping me is im to lazy to buy them https://youtu.be/MqS8ZMKfsEE?si=bx3PfvNMXrRJsC8c
>>75367727Anyone who copes with the “muh steroid dick” bit is restating D.A.R.E propaganda from the 80sIf you even do the most basic of research you’ll be fine. Take back control of your hormones and future from a society that wants to kike you on both fronts. T. 31yo in the best shape and general health of his lifeHOP ON THE SAUCE NIGGAS
>>75371884sauce?
>>75371034it's just strange.none of those 4 dudes look the same.the body hair of the average dude looks different in both picsnot to mention the phone case is changed in one pictureand the way the face is blurred out includes ears and hairline so its sus as fuckalmost all the pictures on here are from liars who claim bodies to troll and spread mischiefand those look like 4 different dudes to me
>>75367187Nattycels are losing it RN>>75367243
>>75371962Jesus H Cope
>>75367587He's gonna win.
i made a thread but i am reposting here. hypothetically speaking, if one were to take testosterone enanthate 250 mg a week biweekly injections for 5 years straight what would be the consequences of this?as long as i maintain proper bloodwork i don't see the downsides of taking a drug that basically turns me into a superhuman with virtually no consequences... as long as i don't stop.i did a cycle years ago and i remember i felt on top of the world, so why not take test permanently to feel like this all the time?the only consequences were some pretty bad acne but if it happens again i can always just take Accutane which i have on hand. someone tell me why this is a bad idea because i am extremely tempted to do this at this point in my life...i am desperate for change... i want to see superhuman changes both mentally, physically, even spiritually and i don't see how i can achieve this any other way.
>>75367187Yeah sureif you want to look like a roiderdo roidsbut everyone will knowyou're just a hollow roidfag
>>75367751i did a cycle of 500mg a week for a year straight and i believed all the fearporn similar to what you wrote here and thought i would go into suicidal depression when i stopped but when i finally stopped the cycle cold turkey and i experienced zero consequences. a month after stopping i got bloodwork and was already back at baseline test levels. actually my test levels were higher than before and it feels like i got a permanent strength buff. i am built different (superhuman potential) so results may vary if you are not a natural born unit like me.
>>75372844What would happen is you'd make decent gains for maybe 6 months and then plate because 250mg ain't shit
>>75372870well i would most likely blast higher doses once in a while then cruise but gains is not my primary motivation for taking test. i am not a normal person and i cannot accept the limitations of human biology. i primarily want to the mental and motivational benefits of high test. i remember i had a fire lit under my ass when i did my first and only cycle and i want to feel that way permanently. no fear, no doubt, just action.
>>75371905Seriously?
>>75367751Holy mother cope. But lets not fear Roidmen, I'll debunk this seething and envious Nattycel point by point>Just doing roids is no guarantee you'll get even OP's results. You'll need baseline genetics, regimen, and diet to get "good" results. If anyone of these is lacking it'll be for nothingThis is required for any exercise retard. Saying "but roads don't make up superman if u sit in your ass" isn't an argument. Same can be said about the nattycels comfort blanky approved supplement, creatine.>The moment you stop you'll lose your gains.Pure natty delusion and wish fulfilment.The muscle grown by roids is muscle, end of. Your body doesn't make categories such as "Natty" and "Roid" muscle. While yes, without roids, and the muscle stimulus they provide, you won't be able to maintain the same musculature. You will be able to maintain a higher level of muscle then you could ever hope to build as a natty. The natty always forgets the fundamental principle that it is exponentially harder to build novel muscle, then it is to maintain muscle. >ThirdJust cope>OP's results are definitely most assuredly achievable natty. I promise you.You so desperately want it to be true, that is true at least. >And finallyGrandma tier jibber jabber fear mongering. Of all the awful substances and acitivies people do for the body, you seek to stand on the soap box about the substance that fundamentally good and taken for improvement. To equate the Faustian Master Roider, who takes the bargain to Mog the fearful natty dreg to the typical pothead or alcoholic retard (who are "Natty" and thus more noble to the same retard) is pathetic.>Choose wisely. I honestly and truly do not blame you either way.Roids simply are an accelerant. They provide more stimulus to your body to build and retain muscle. If the Roid was as Ubiquitous and available as creatine or protein powder, you'd hear "but it's natty tho bro" for it as well. The natty is simply a fearful, jealous rat.
>>75373312based
>>75367639>>75367653>>75367667I don't directly train arms and chest either (maybe 3 BP sets twice a month) and I have humongous arms compared to yours (I also swim often).
>>75369784I'm not OP, did sarms as a teenager and got disappointing results. You have to take high doses of them to get comparable to actual steroids which makes them more hazardous for your health at that point
>>75373312Pure cope but steroids are proven to reduce IQ and accelerate brain aging so makes sense you're a stupid dickwad.
>>75373990total roidfaggot destruction
>>75373312>delusion and wish fulfilment.>Roids simply are an accelerant. They provide more stimulus to your body to build and retain muscle.You lying assholes make it hard to admire anyone who's taken them. The body is generally well suited to the level of androgens of endogenous production, but when you triple it it's literally unnatural and does weird shit like make your heart muscle inflate, reducing the volume of blood that it holds, along with making it misshapen so it's worse at doing its job. Not that rarely causing people to drop dead in their 30s.
How long can I stay on 200mg per week tren for? I love it I dont wanna come off and it isnt a high dosage
>>75371726> You were top 10% easily of natties
>>75371020>"Everyone who's bigger than me is on roids"
>>75367187The only reason to take PED if you make money with your body. So either in professional sports, or modelling, or shit like that. If you live a normal life, there are no benefits of being a roider. It won't make you more successful with girls. It won't make your mental health any better. It won't even increase your confidence, because you know that you're cheater
>>75374166life's not a video game dudeyou can't "cheat" at it
>>75374179Do you honestly believe that a term cheater was created during the video games era? You usually pay for trying to take shortcuts in life. One way or another
>>75367187steroids don't actually make you socially stronger roidheads just become more brash plus they become dependent on china-made pharmaceuticals and then life long healthcare when they get heart problems at 45most "strong" free peoples weigh like 65 kilos and are wiry as fuck, they have AK47s so they don't need to be built like a beast of burden
>>75367187roiding for this?
I dont understand why people roid in their teens and 20s. Anyway you look like Craig in casino royale and he was nearly 40 when he got that physique. You couldn't wait until 30+ before destroying your test levels?
>>75373956Or perhaps you just have a tiny torso.
>>75373312The misinformation you're spreading is dangerous. It's like you're stating there are NO dangers at all to taking roids, that the gains are permanent, and that OP's gains are impossible natural which honestly is some of the stupidest things I've ever read on fit. (already posted body if you bothered to look, though some think I'm on gear just let that sink in) >(genetic, diet, and technique)This is required for any exercise retard.Yes, you know this and I know this, but others may not hopping on gear going into it. It is absolutely 1000% an apt argument in this context for those too impatient, lacking knowledge, and discipline to get results naturally. Because as you stated:>Roids simply are an accelerant.You neglected to mention the health ramifications. You aren't really trying to convince everyone that it's 100% safe with no safety concerns whatsoever are you? Because if you are then you are truly delusional if not a certified moron. But then I read this, and I was convinced when I stated you wont keep the gains made using roids:>Pure natty delusion and wish fulfilmentNo. It's a fact. You do not keep the size, you lose strength, recovery is downgraded, and you don't feel the same psychologically when off gear. If I have to convince you of that then I'm wasting my time because you're a fool. But maybe others will listen so...>You so desperately want it to be true, that is true at leastIt is true. >>75370399>Grandma tier jibber jabber fear mongering.This is the most dangerous thing you're stating by dismissing the warnings of the dangers of steroid usage as "fear mongering". If you're literally going to ignore the numerous deaths associated with gear many of which have recently been announced on THIS very board(RIP Lenny, Rich Piana, Dallas McCarver, and numerous others) then YOU sir are a charlatan and should not be taken seriously by anyone. In short, you should be quiet.You're the rat.
>Take roids to look good for a few year>heart disease, testosterone deficiency and endocrine dysfunction for the rest of your lifeI'd rather not
is dianabol effective for beginners or a waste of money.
>>75374972it's an oral steroid => you can't run it for longgains = compound * dose * timethere's a reason testosterone is recommended
>>75374991chatgpt recommended me enanthate and clomid for pct. what a time to be alive
>>75367239mine already stopped so I got nothing to lose except my hair
>>75375096Losing your hair is literally optional in the modern era
>>75375050>clomidhigh risk of permanent vision damagedo nolvadex or enclomiphene
>>75367187I don't see how being depending on vials of chinese gear and ancillaries is helping you escape modern life and subservience. You sound like you're deluding yourself, and I used gear for 3 years back in the day. You're just another drug-dependent person who will self-induce health problems because you're too stupid/weak to do it naturally. It's no wonder so many modern people need drugs to have any musculature at all when people eat mostly goyslop and grainsludge.
If you have natural low testosterone levels, you have nothing to lose.Just do TRT and target the upper range.Even if you stop, you will easily go back to your natural low levels.If you have high natural levels (above 700 ng), I wouldn’t risk it
>>75375201I'm 40 and have never juiced. I feel like it's time
>>75374166that's a retard take roids are drugs, the only reason to take them is to have fun and the dopamine you get, you're only once on this planet anon.
>>75374166I'm going to take them then all bullshit advice to natties like lifting at certain angles and going to failure
>>75367192lelUpdateme!(Really intereted in hair progress over years)
>>75367650>bro you're like 50 years old>25yoYeah that's a known side effect
>>75367187that's pretty small for 4 monthseat morea natty would have 20inch biceps by now dude
>>75367639you need bigger shoulders and quads broyour fucking stomach is almost bigger than your delts
>>75375190I can't explain it, but this post is ice cold, it's nothing I wouldn't figure out myself, but it really managed to make being on gear stupid.
>>75373312just let the nattys be.You're wasting your time trying to convince them of anything.Any that do change their mind will just do some faggot MPDP 200mg test/20mg var cycle for 8 weeks and clog up the /fraud/ threads with retarded questions about when they will start seeing jawline gains.
>>75374166It takes years of PED use to even get the chance at making money from your body, idiot.Do think NFL players suddenly start taking roids when they get drafted?Hollywood action stars start roiding when they get their first big role?you fucking clown
>>75376267Side effect of what?
>>75367909you are malnourished, look into the raw primal diet and Aajonus Vonderplanitz
>>75367187>Just Do Roids GeneralNoPathetic clowns
>>75367639>bizarre dysproportional physique>HEY I DONT DO ROIDS GUYS HAHA!!!!!!! fuck i hate the internet and all you subhuman fucks
>>75367187Doing roids while not being a professional athlete is the same as creating an OF account as a woman. You live for today, cry about it for the rest of your life.
>>75381576No one cries about roids except jealous natties such as yourself lmao
>>75381576>thinks you can become a pro athlete without roiding for years just to get the chance to try outdelusional natty retards
>>75381652>>75381775>there are 0 health consequences to face in the future for steroids>but we all hate drugs on this website, especially coffee. So unhealthy!
>>75381796Arnold is almost 80 and is fine. Ronnie is 60 and is fine, despite his botched ass surgery. Yeah some people die from overuse. So what? You're not actually concerned about the well being of people roiding, so why do you care so much? Stupid.
>>75381819>since you dont care about anyone, it must mean steroids are perfectly healthy for you!>no steroids isn't a drug!
>>75381844Checked but if you're gonna post bait you need to be more subtle than that.
>>75381853>telling people steroids is unhealthy is bait!
>>75367187Wait you are telling me to take roids now and look like a curl bro kid or dude that never took bodybuilding nor powerlifting the slightest seriously. In just 4 months?! thats a steal. Nope I'm sorry that can't be the OP. Its someone trolling.
>>75381796where did I say anything about zero health risks? Are you replying to right person or you are just a retard?
>>75372742it would be a simple thing to disprove they are the same personjust take current pictures with a paper saying 4chanand make sure to hold up the old watchesbut it's easier to seeth and continue this roid narrative it seemsall people do on this site is post fake troll bait and you're sounding just like another one of those peopleso if you have something to prove then prove it
>>75373312>fearfulI guess. I'm just afraid of any side effects.
