What if I stopped benching and only did ohp?
bigger shoulderssmaller mid and lower chest
You’d develop different muscles
>>75368205you'd go out with small pecs, as the Targaryens did
>>75368205Dont do that, it makes mustard gas
>>75368205i do this i can ohp 70% body mass
>>75368211Targaryens aren’t boobie builders
>>75368205You won't build as much chest
you will only fuck up ur spine and neck since ohp is a meme lift
>>75368205It would be painful
>>75368205You'd be a bodybuilder from 1900. If you did it a lot that is.
>>75368205just do incline bench press or dips if you dont like flat bench
>>75368267the most fucked up thing is ohp doesnt even improve ohp much. behind neck or dumbbell press improve it mich faster than ohp itself (loaded at streched position)
>>75369248This makes no sense
>>75368211Those are Lannisters
>>75369446The others are better at building lateral delts. I think it's correct, though you prob need a little practice with regular ohp to excel.
>>75368205why not hand stand pushups?u can start by leaning feet on a wall
>>75369462Since the triceps is the strongest muscle used in the lift, i thought anything that builds triceps will help the most.Like close grip bench, weighted dips, JM press, even Incline Bench.
>>75369462yep. ohp to build skill, better shoulder presses to build muscle. its kinda similar with powerlifting bencg and "accesories"
>>75369516Is it? The hard part of the lift is when the tricep is in a really shitty position for applying force.
>>75369516The hardest part of the lift is usually when the bar passes eyebrow level, and i think its mostly triceps after that, of course the delts help as well but they are much weaker compared to the triceps.
>>75368251if u push on opposite hip spike from the front (push down and back) with shoulder protracted and internally rotated (elbow in front of u) u will isolate pectoralis major with muscle fibers straight between origin and attachment >that's awkward thoughthat's why i stand over chair and push on it with one hand between my legs with bench shoulders must be retracted which wraps pectoralis muscle around ribcage you know what is the reason for stalled reps in bench? like it goes from the bottom a little but then suddenly gets too heavy to push to lockoff? as barbell goes up elbows go up and muscle fibers of pecs start to unwrap from ribcage which creates slack in the muscle thats the bench hole, no there is nothing that salvages this movement for pec development, no angle, no implement, nothing, bench, like ohp is fucking retarded injurious nonsense
>>75369721>if u push on opposite hip spike from the front (push down and back) with shoulder protracted and internally rotated (elbow in front of u)think cross-drawing revolver but u gotta push on it first so elbow out in front of u - not yet sure about clavicular head but it gets entirety of sternal head right to teeth on sternum pec makes when it grows there, awesome static hold
>>75368205You would have small pecs and oversized front delts, which will look weird compared to your side and rear delt
>>75369456bring me the breast plate stretcher
>>75369238Elaborate
>>75368240That's really not impressive, anon
>>75370075i don't do this and i am certain i can ohp over 100% >>75369721>>75369750
>>75370066They didn't do a lot of chest work in the early days, it was heavily focused on lifting things high off the ground.Without looking it up the bench press wasn't invented until like the 40s.
>>75370226It’s time to stop training chest!
>>75370226>>75370843monke
>>75370226Gross physique you couldnt pay this sex addict fag to rape him
>>75370226>Without looking it up the bench press wasn't invented until like the 40s.bench does fuck your pecs up, ask me how i know :D >>75369721>you know what is the reason for stalled reps in bench? like it goes from the bottom a little but then suddenly gets too heavy to push to lockoff? as barbell goes up elbows go up and muscle fibers of pecs start to unwrap from ribcage which creates slack in the muscle>thats the bench hole, no there is nothing that salvages this movement for pec development, no angle, no implement, nothing, bench, like ohp is fucking retarded injurious nonsense
you would grow a muscle that actually matters, is more functional , more aesthetic,more basedshoulders > chest , always
>>75368205Youd be based
I FUCKING LOVE OHP, IM GONNA FUCKING OHP TONIGHT
Can OHP make your shoulders wider?
>>75373831yeah. dumbbell best, one at a time when heavy
>>75373847Best grip to use?
>>75373851The most neutral, do the movement without weights and see what position your hand goes to.Don't rotate it when lifting though, needless risk of torquing joints.
>>75368205The issue with benching is scapula movement is limited by the bench, you could compound OHP with Dips and deficit pushups as a finisher and you would get a bigger chest and healthier rotators.
>>75373927Retract them beforehand so they don't have to move.
>>75373931That doesn't fix the problem friend, because they are not supposed to be retracted against a bench. You have to move them, this is why people get fucked up shoulders. First they don't retract them, then they do retract them and do correct form, until the weight is too much and they get fucked nonetheless.
