feels bad when dudes do so much for something they can't really control
I do like the cum stack supps tho, bitches love creampies
>.t 7.5x6

>>75370996
Your dick is fine
Women don't even like dicks

>>75370996
I'd like to try test gel and low pressure pumping. I think that is the sauce
Need to do more research, but i plan to test it on myself.
6.4" bone pressed length 5.4" girth starting

>>75370996
>doing all of this instead of talking to a girl

>look into refractory period reducing supplements
>every person suggests half a dozen supplements different from the last
Which do I take? I've seen vitamin B6 as P5P vitamin E come up a lot. What else is is good for this?

>>75371114
Be born with no refractory period like me. When I go to whores I'll bust in a few minutes but not pull out and keep fucking another 15-20 to get my money's worth. Usually I don't cum again but with cum in the condom I can just fake it whenever I'm gassed.

>>75371114
this cialis/viagra mix i got helps immensely with my shit refractory

Anyone got the link to the website where you can input your dick stats and it tells you your percentile?

>>75371139
calcsd.info

>>75371128
How does you boasting about your entirely random genetic lottery like a fag help anyone in any way whatsoever?

Extender + vibration + heat + time. Don't jeql. Cialis/viagra help erection quality, and do nothing for size. Pumping helps some people with girth, depending how many layers od tunica you have (you can only tell during surgical biopsy). Clamping also helps with girth, and seems ro have more success. Use heat with both. Bundled stretches, and tunica scrapes, both help the pumping/clamping. The patent about pge1 for dick growth has EXAMPLES, and not actual patient results. People have tried this over and over, and have had no results from the patent method. Potoba can help if you have peyronies. You will not be able to find relaxin anywhere. Nobody manufactures it, unless you have a legitimate chemical research company, and an assload of cash to toss at them. There's some newish peptide that's a precursor to relaxin, but it's $1600 per gram, nobody has used it for this, and nobody knows what dose you need. If you had straight relaxin, you'd need 60 grams for a proper try, so you'll probably need more than that for a precursor

>>75371282
What does relaxin do?

It always blows my mind how many of you measure your dicks. Especially that you can discern between a quarter inch based on hard hard you’re pressing against your dick lol

>>75371461
Does a few things, but dickmaxx related it triggers cervical growth and softening in pregnant women leading up to birth. It's present in men, but there's not much research into it's purpose, other than a failed russian drug that was intended to soften arteries for some life threatening heart issue. Anyway, the idea is it inhibits collagen growth, and treats fibrosis, which allows the extending/pumping/clamping to be more effective. Since your body isn't able to produce more collagen, it can't make the scars (fibrosis) that inhibits further growth. And don't get confused about oh but you want more growth. Your dick aint a muscle. Collagen growth doesn't work the same way. Time under tension is the big secret. So don't feel like you need a ton of weight, or high pressure. Slow and steady wins the race. Expect five days a week, six hours a day, for six months before you notice actual gains. The first few months you'll likely get erection quality improvements, but that's just letting your dick get closer to it's actual size when hard. Growing beyond that will take a while. Most people that actually stick with it will see decent results in a year to two. And even over the long term, tamper your expectations. Most will see an inch in length, and a half inch in girth. If you're persistent, maybe double that. If you're exceptionally stubborn, and lucky, MAYBE you'll get 3" length. Extremely rare (and even then highly suspicious) you'll get 1.5-2" girth. Then if you keep that up for a few years, you'll likely have some permanent gains, but you'll lose some when you stop.

>>75371569
Oh and this guy actually has a good point. The easiest way to "make your dick bigger" is to lose weight. You can easily have an inch+ hiding under the fat pad over your pubic bone. Also cardio and general heart health helps with erection quality

>>75370996
If you have fat to lose, lose it
If you don't lift and do cardio, do that because it'll improve circulation which will improve erection strength thus size

That's all, past that your size is your size, you can break your dick in search of another half-inch but I'd advise not to

I've been jelqing since I was 15.

so almost 20 years. I've injured my dick once or twice doing it too much.
I would say it really doesn't do anything for size, but since I started at a youngish age when I was only 6.3" x 4.9" BPEL and now im 7.9" X 5.4" BPEL (7.2" NBPEL) I can't say whether it's from beating my member up or just natural growth over the years (and also losing fat).

currently jelqing and pumping to try to get some girth gains, as the wife is satisfied with my length.

>>75371920
jelqing works
t.9 inches no homo

>>75371085
Test gel doesn't work. Maybe you can get something from DHT gel but that's going to throw your hormones out of whack and nuke your hair.

>>75371007
Speak for yourself, Anon.

I get texts from women I fucked five or more years ago telling me how much they miss sucking my cock and getting fucked by me.

>>75370996
Supps for harder errection quality fellas?

>>75372313
...Cardio

I'm sorry you had to learn it this way

>>75372240
It works in pubescent kids and hypogonadal men doesn't it? Why would it not work for normal men, and has it been paired with pumping or hanging?

Logically having the most optimal dick is all about having the strongest and healthiest heart. If your heart can effortlessly pump blood to your penis you can guarantee it will be harder and stay longer.


Cardio is the only method besides cialis or viagra that physiologically will make your dick optimal

>>75372331
in that case what's the best cardio for it?
LISS, HIIT or MISS?

>>75372323
muay thai tomorrow it is

>>75372328
People have tried. After like... 21 your body adjusts, and this dont do shit no mo

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>>75372281
and then you wake up, sweating in your damp little room

>>75371108
>t.dicklet chink
KEK!!!!

>>75372350
>>75372331
This. What is the best form of cardio.

>>75372533
Swimming

>>75372281
Uh huh

>>75370996
My refectory period seems to be based on how much I've been jorkin' it desu. Less and I cum quicker but I can go back in more times so it depends on the girl. More and I cum slower, but I will probably only be good for like 1-2 rounds. But it'll depend on the girl which is better. Ex-gf came quick so she could do a lot of rounds. Current fuck buddy is slow to come so needs the extra time.

>>75370996
You can't increase the size of your dick permanently. You can cause inflammation and swelling that just make it temporarily look bigger. Better just trick a girl into loving you.

>>75372578
ty ty

>>75372607
Women can't measure shit anyways just tell them it's 8 inches

hey thats MY penis , what's your problem hoe?

>>75370996
Psychosomatics and placebo work for me. No, i aint posting dick, take my word for it. Went from 16 to 17.8, one day had n 18cm one (measure and remember cuz its visible difference).

>>75372723
You're not the only one with a 17 inch dick. Last year I hit a personal best at 19 and a half and when I'm pinning cycles I can pump that to almost 21 inches.

Feel kinda bad hearing about all the 7 incher guys' woman problems.

Would putting retinol on my dick help?

>>75372668
i tell em im 6 inches and then take a picture next to a water bottle they think water bottles are like 10 inches atleast which makes sense cause they think most guys are that size even though ive never seen someone compare their dick to it

>>75372533
The best cardio is which ever you enjoy doing the most. Cardio sucks ass so choose the one you enjoy doing so you're more likely to stick with it long term. For me that's cycling but it could be running or swimming for you.

>>75372723
what was ur routine?

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>>75370996
>this thread again
have a picrel

>>75373650
Since this image was created, l citrulline has become very popular. It's converted into L-arginine in the body, so should have the same effects, no?

>>75370996
5mg Cialis a day does wonders

>>75371920
I feel the same way, I started when I was 17, jelqed, and got tricked into it working. I clamp like crazy and consistently as of late but it doesn’t seem to work like everything else. I it might work for some guys but they’re the minority not the majority. I think my body is too tough (3-tunica layers), can’t produce the pressure necessary and heals to quick because when I see these big gainers they’re always fat unfit fucks with high blood pressure.
>>75371282
How much did you gain? Did you ever stop and see if the gains were permanent?

The PE community is always contradicting itself and coming up with new untested methods which is worrisome, either the old methods didn’t work or the people who gain from PE can do pretty much anything and will gain meaning their advice is useless. Plus, if you say you gained nothing have months of trying they blame you and say you’re doing too much.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322071346_Enhanced_Growth_of_the_Adult_Penis_With_Vitamin_D_3

Been megadosing vitamin d3 for a month now, 2 more to go. I figure if it works great if not theres no harm and its way lower effort than pumping for 20 minutes a day.
I do not feel any of the energy boosts the study mentioned but im sure most of that is due to outside factors.

>>75373511
I like sitting on the reclined stationary bike and watching instagram reels

>>75370996
It's over man. Dick is all genetics. So far no one has found a way to actually increase the size of the dick. Most that we have so far are injections or implants that increase the girth at the cost of surgery complications and at the certainty of your dick looking like an overly cooked sausage.

>>75375077
Stop demoralizing

>>75375081
You know what's "demoralizing"? Tricking people into thinking they can do something about their 5 incher potentially leading them down a rabbit hole of snake oil sellers, delusional faggots on reddit / manosphere forums who will swear their methods work blinded by their own confirmation bias, and getting them to potentially damage their dick forever by "jelqing" or whatever other retarded methods people have come up with. There is NO WAY to permanently increase your dick in length and girth once you've done your growing. The penis is more like a sponge, not a muscle, and when you stretch a sponge it doesn't grow bigger or longer it just rips itself apart. Whatever the real mechanism for penile growth at a cellular level is, we haven't yet found a way to hijack or manipulate it. Best you can do is be on top cardiovascular health, low bodyfat, and accept what your genetic lottery has handed you. Maybe pop some cialis if you struggle keeping full erections.

Not a single male pornstar out there has ever done anything to increase their size permanently.

>>75372328
>>75372460
>>75372240
https://old.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/197m05w/testosterone_gel_doesnt_work/
trannies literally use test gel, the only "problem" is some people don't absorb it well through the skin.
that's a genetic thing you can't fix.
stop being a pussy and just inject test tho, way cheaper and trivial to do once you figure it out.

>>75375138
5 inchers aren't doing this shit. most women(whores not included) think 5 inches is fine.
it's more like dudes who have 2-3 inches who think perma pump looks better who do this shit.

>>75375501
>most women(whores not included) think 5 inches is fine.

No, most women SAY 5 inches is fine. They don't mean it. When a girl usually says she's been with a small dick she doesn't mean 3 or 4 inches she means 5 or 5.5.

>but anon the average is 5.5, 5 inches can't be that bad

average height in the US is 5'9, at 5'7 - 5'8 which is more or less the distribution equivalent of 5 inches of dick, most women will reject you based on your height alone. Women and society as a whole consider you anywhere from "short" to "very short".

80th percentile and up is the bare minimum they require. For dick that's ~6.5 inches. That's where you gotta stand to not be deemed "small" or "just barely acceptable" in 2024.

Evet since i broke up with my ex i cum way too fast. I dont get it.
What are my options? I guess i can just give myself whisky dick before i see the next girl and pop a viagra

Imagine the test tube babies born with a flaccid 14'

>>75376620
Porn isn't like sex, it's all about you and your instant gratification, it's a dopamine hit that you haven't earned with your efforts

>>75375525
I made a girl cum with my index finger and no clit stimulation last night. I know you understand all the Women Lore you commonly see on the internet, but I just wanted to tell you that it doesn’t actually map to reality.

>>75376686
Why didn't you make her cum with your dick, though?

>>75376718
Because I didn’t bring a condom

>>75376754
>what do you mean "pull out"?

>>75376787
Not really looking for tips for my sex life. Live vicariously through someone else.

>>75375525
the problem with incels like this is that things like dick size and height are only and impediment to dating if you cant compensate with your personality
buying into the incel rage and getting really buttmad about these ideas about “what women really think” pretty much locks you out of being a likable person

>>75376686
Making a woman cum with your fingers and with your mouth are completely different things compared to making her cum with your dick. I'm not even talking about how it feels as pleasure in a raw sense, it's about how she pair bonds with you once it happens and how her perception of you changes. And big dick is a necessary but not sufficient condition for a vaginal orgasm. Good luck keeping any woman around mid to long term if your dick can't rock her world on its own.

>>75376874
Why would I take sex advice a virgin when I’m the one having good sex regularly?

>>75376901
>I have a gut feeling that he may be right and I don't know how to respond so I'll call him a virgin!

I'm not a virgin either and even if I were it wouldn't change the truth of my statement. And none of it is sex advice, it's just observing reality. I'm nearly 30 and been through many relationships as well as having heard both sides of stories of people in my social circle that also are in relationships. If you have a 3 digit IQ you start discerning patterns from those and eventually come up with conclusions. I'm sorry that isn't your case.

>I'm the one having good sex regularly

I agree on that - if you're not making her cum with your dick you are in fact the only one among you two that has good sex regularly.

>>75370996
As a sex haver length doesn't matter.
As a 4.8 in dicklet girls are more than satisfied.

Being able to stay hard and pound away is 90% of it, the other 10 is size attraction.
Percent varries but it's pretty easy to sexually satisfy a woman without clit stim

t. Bull in Bed

>>75376817
>I fucked up a good chance but don't want to think of it.
That's ok, more will come. Easy, easy.

>>75377082
You write with the reddit dialect so I’m not gonna dignify the content of your post with a response. You do sound like a loser though.

>>75377140
Well yeah, she invited me over again tonight. Bringing condoms this time too.

>>75374309
>I clamp like crazy and consistently as of late but it doesn’t seem to work like everything else.

I'm the same. I've made gains with ADS'ing and extending but almost no girth gains with clamping. Well I did make small gains but the gains are almost not noticeable. Funny thing is I actually made some decent length gains with clamping. I'm not complaining but I'm still a little bumbed out from not having any girth gains.

I will say that the PE community can overcomplicate things. I never used any pills, manuals, or warmups. I'd just put on my device and get my set amount of time with said device.

>>75374912
Isn't D3 poisoning a thing?

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I’m trying to restore my foreskin

>>75377267
No

>>75378206
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/vitamin-d-toxicity/faq-20058108

>>75378265
>Katherine Zeratsky
last name of Hebrew descent, opinion discarded

>>75375077
jelqing gave me +5cm dicklet

>>75378201
good luck
i hope it works!

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Has anyone done prostate massaging? I just got my roids fixed and have a zoomer girl ready and willing to rim me so she'll do whatever I want. I've heard it's fantastic

>>75376874
>>75376686
My gf has a hard time cumming only with dick but it happens from time to time and she always tell me it's way better than anything.
I bought one of those womanzer toy and she gets 5 orgasms in a row while squirting all over but will still say it's nothing compared to get a proper fuck, even without orgasm.

>>75379204
A good rimjob is where it's at. Having her tongue shoved ddeep in your ass won't do much, but a slight tikcle going from ass to balls and perineum is godlike.
Prostate massage is ok but takes some time to learn to do and to enjoy.
Saw a few pros in thailand, milfs with decades of experience doing it and it was very good though. Orgasms are extremely strong but they're not the best in the end, almost painful, at least for me.

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>>75371143
Feels good bros

>>75374912
>>75377267
Make sure you get your K2

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>>75373255

>>75379383
Is that base girth or mid shaft?

>>75379431
1/3rd up, I have basically no taper. If I did head circumference it would be like 6.75.

>>75379269
>My gf has a hard time cumming only with dick but it happens from time to time and she always tell me it's way better than anything.
>I bought one of those womanzer toy and she gets 5 orgasms in a row while squirting all over but will still say it's nothing compared to get a proper fuck, even without orgasm.

Yeah that's how it's been described to me too. The way it's always been said, dick induced orgasms to women are like this incredibly intense experience stimulating the entirety of her body and even mind whereas clitoral orgasms are more like pleasure that's localized in and around their pussy. They're not the same thing. This girl once told me good PIV sex is like an itch that needs to be scratched and if she doesn't get it she goes crazy. Being fingered or eaten out are not substitutes.

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>>75379383
Mogged you

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>>75378965
Thanks anon, me too.

>>75371282
This.

Vacuum extender and water pump for the last 3.5 years with good consistency gave me about +2" length and +0.5" girth. There aren't shortcuts in this game so my advice for a lot of you is don't start.

>>75380368
>Vacuum extender
How is that different from a pump?

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>>75380539
A vacuum extender is just the attachment to the extender. Normally you'd use some kind of strap for extending but that's very dangerous since it can cut off circulation and cause nerve damage.

>>75380368
>water pump
As in the bathmate? I don't really use that but I did try pumping before. How do you not get your balls stuck in that thing?

>>75380572
I use their "comfort insert" to keep my balls out of it, but they also have "cushion rings" that I've never had to use.

>>75380625
Imma try these along with just getting a different sized sleeve. I'm currently clamping and thinking of pumping during off days. How many days would you say it takes to recover?

>>75375525
>No, most women SAY 5 inches is fine. They don't mean it. When a girl usually says she's been with a small dick she doesn't mean 3 or 4 inches she means 5 or 5.5.
mental illness

>>75380646
I pump every day, but I'm not an idiot about the pressure. Use the handball attachment to have finer control over things. Best results for me have been 2 x 5 minute sessions in the morning, and 2 x 5 minute sessions in the evening.

>>75380848

No homo but do you have before and after pics. I’m 7.5 x 5.5 but I’d love to hit 8 x 6. I’ve tried pumping but it makes my balls hurt

>>75376686
>>75379269
>>75376874
my gf is a succubus that doesn't orgasm form anything, just likes draining my balls all day

>>75372328
>>75372460
Androgen recepters become inactive after puberty in the dick. There are guys who are at the forefront of this shit and none have managed to undo it.

>>75377267
If you are a redditor yes

Guys your dick size literally doesnt matter unless you are actually small.

I know this sounds like Reddit advice but honestly work on erection quality not dick size. Just do cardio, take cialis (good for gym too), and other supps mentioned in this thread.

>>75382121
>actually small
Welcome to my hell.

How to fix premature busting

>>75382315
Sex toy and endurance training

>>75382315
Unironically core workouts and engaging the core whe doing compound lifts helped. I stopped doing that and noticed I bust faster when having sex now. Gotta get back to it.

>>75382315
>>75382326
>>75382452
Bryan Johnson's weird dick-shocking therapy that's like mega-kegels.

>>75382299
Just find a girl with a SPH fetish or become a cuck or something. You can still enjoy life.

>>75382506
Neither of those sound enjoyable.

>>75382516
How small are you?

>>75379383
It's all good until you remember the average gets a nosedive due to Asians being 2/3 of the world population

Is bone press measuring just a cope?

>5 inch girth is above average
that can't be right

>>75370996
Just buy a compression hanger and thug it out that way, proggressive overload, 1 hour in total a day of hanging and use the pump, either water of air but try it to be at 650mercury

>>75382613
If technically is. Average is like 4.3-4.4.

>>75382605
Absolutely.

>>75382471
QRD?

>>75371205
>entirely random genetic lottery
nice. nta but I'm the same way, as long as I keep getting stimulated. Never thought of it as a genetic lottery. I always thought it was some joke on tv

so many dots are connecting rn

>>75382709
How are you supposed to measure then?

>>75382772
Basically like TENS/EMS afaik.

>>75382605
>>75382709
>>75383111
Bone pressed is the only logical way to measure as different people have different sizes of fat pads. People who counter signal it will never provide an alternative method because there is none

>>75371128
You have hypoprolactinemia and need medical treatment

>>75371128
>Be born with no refractory period like me
This is blessing and a curse. I can cum in like one minute but can continue fucking for next two hours and cum again multiple times. It's even worse when I drink alcohol.

>>75383106
>I never thought that not getting a prolactin surge on orgasm wasn't random genetic luck.
Yes you did and you're just posting to boast about your entirely random and unearned genetic privilege. I hope you get erectile dysfunction.

>>75383788
Yeah I'm sure escaping the incredibly emasculating erectile dysfunction symptom that 99% of the male population is afflicted with is a "curse". I'm sure being virile to women instead of a piece of shit that completely shuts down after a single orgasm is a "curse".

>>75379383
Damn we're almost dick twins.7.9x6.2 How often you bottom out and ever gotten a good bj? Only time I got a good one was from a milf from fetlife

>>75383759
Are you retarded? The alternative is just NON bone pressed. Sure the fat pad compresses during sex but not to the extent it does when you're jamming a ruler in there. Probably get a quarter of the difference.

Don't buy a pump, I did during a degenerate phase after becoming single. Utterly pointless. The best thing you can do is take Cialis. It will give you 100% erection even when you have vasoconstrictors in your system like nicotine or coke. It will give you amazing pumps in general too. So all in all, get lean and jacked. Take the Cialis for the dick pump and also crazy arm vascularity and it will turn you into a god in womens eyes.

>>75383786
firstly, why do you say that? second, according to wikipedia
> There are few treatments which increase prolactin levels in humans

>>75378265
>jew woman doesnt want you to eat meat and fish
the odds of that

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>>75380832
>>75375501
>picrel
>>75370996

I've gained 1 inch in about 6 months from home-made DHT cream + pump, twice a week. + Stung my dick with bees once every 2-3 weeks for the whole summer. (Didn't pump it when it was inflamed, obviously lol)
https://nup.ru/topic/24-opyt-nuperov-po-pchelouzhalivaniju-chlena/page/53/

>>75382605
>>75384133
It's preferred because it's harder to fuck up the measurement. Also, dicks don't fucking shrink just because you gain 10 pounds over the holidays.
Faggot.

I have an inflamed testicle and had to see a urologist
Thank you for your attention.

2 years ago after my divorce I was getting into the dating game so I signed up for a newsletter and I get a penis pill or device email every week and I love watching the videos so much because they're just so much fun and it's always basically the same premise highly recommend

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>>75384597
Who cares if you have more penis inside you if you can't use it or see it

>"Wtf anon, I thought you said your dick was 6 inches, that's tiny, I'm leaving loser"
>"wait hold on! it might look like it's only 4 inches but theres technically actually 2 more inches hidden beneath my fat disgusting body, it's there I promise but it's just not visible or usable at the moment, maybe someday if I finally get off my ass and lose this thick layer of lard I'll be able to use it but pleaseee you'll just have to remember it's back there"

>>75384579
>Stung my dick with bees once every 2-3 weeks for the whole summer.
bruh
Does that even do anything but make your skin swell up, and how small would you have to be to put yourself through that?

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>>75370996
I increased my girth naturally with no drugs or supplements. I went from my dick going through a toilet paper roll to the head of my dick getting stuck when trying to go through toilet paper roll.
Except every time I mentioned my practices, people on this site sort of just memed on me. So my secrets will stay with me forever.

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>>75385442
Jelqing?

>>75385442
Why are you replying then? Are you waiting for someone to beg you so you can answer and play the "look he's asking, I wasn't gonna say otherwise" card

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>>75385442
Share or be forever gayfag

I have never seen a single piece of photographic evidence of exercise-induced penis enlargement. Not once, in all the years of seeing these threads has anybody ever posted proof.

>>75386309
Because there aren't. Habitual PE forum users fall in two categories with no inbetween, those trying to sell you something and those deluding themselves that they're getting results from putting their dick through torture with pumping / hanging. The only good thing that's ever come out of PE communities is people advancing discourse on the underlying mechanism of penis enlargement during puberty (which anyone with a few functioning brain cells would guess is the right way to go about it...) which, if hijacked, could allow men to keep growing in size. Thing is, we barely know anything about it. All we know is that penis size is a polygenic trait with, supposedly, a fixed maximum size, and whether or not that size is achieved depends on the balance of hormonal levels during puberty. For example we know that kids who go through puberty while being obese with lower testosterone levels end up having penises 1 cm (0.4 inches) shorter in adulthood, on average, compared to non-obese kids. Androgens during puberty (DHT in particular) stimulate the androgen receptors situated in the corpora cavernosa, which in turn cause it to enlarge. Those androgen receptors are turned off at the end of puberty and we have no idea how to get them to turn "on" again. But even if we did there would still be the unsolved puzzle of how to break through the supposed genetic limit of size because as said before, even being obese during development doesn't actually make much of a dent. 1 cm on two penises of equal girth is barely noticeable.

>>75386793
so if my dick is 6 inches but i didnt play any sports or eat enough when i was a kid, will my son who does do those things have a bigger one?

>>75386793
>t.got dick size from mom

I'm 9 inches long and I've always wanted to be bigger, am I fucked?

>>75387048
Holy fucking micropenis and here I thought my footlong dong was small.

>>75387055
Oh no I'm well aware I'm huge, I just wonder how big I could truly get.

>>75387059
Don't reply to me dicklet

>>75384579
What percentage of the cream was DHT, 10%? Also, what size are you now (length and girth)?

>>75386309
I don't wanna see that shit. Not gay. Just link me a f'n PubMed abstract for anything that actually works.

8x6in bros where we at?

>>75372350
I do HIIT on the bike because glutes get hit hard. Seems to translate best for sex. Can go for about 3 hours of constant pounding by juggling position swaps and rhythm changes.
lemme tell you it's not just cardio, you need a strong core and good forearm endurance too.
fucking a girl tired for a good 40 minutes is easy from behind with arms resting on her ass. but that's boring so that's where the core/forearm strength comes in. weighted planks and fingertip pull-ups is what I do along with HIIT.

>>75389114
Chronically jerking off with two hands because the rest of me is unattractive :^)

>>75371588

Good info!