Is it bullshit? Does it actually work with not only zero downsides but some positives that are helpful aside from being less hungry?Surely there is some form of side effect or something it can't be that perfect, right? Or regardless of any side effect is the weight loss so profound that it's worth doing as is
>>75469522It's the perfect drug. It kills appetite in the brain and makes complying with any diet a cakewalk. No side effects other than rare nausea.
>>75469522>Does it actually workThat much is evident>with not only zero downsidesLmao
where to copplease
>>75469542>>with not only zero downsides>LmaoNice rebuttal
>>75469531It slows gastric emptying which fucks up your stomach. I'm glad my appetite isn't screwed up by eating slop so I don't have to take the 'pig.
>>75469644Tiny temporary non issue don't be an idiot doomer no side effect from these meds is worse than heart disease from being a fat fuck
>>75469587Even the fucking manufacturer (you know the people with billions of dollars invested in you buying it) tells you that there are side effects like pancreatitis, thyroid cancer, kidney failure, gallbladder failure, hypoglycaemia and "changes in vision's that at a minimum is what the people who want you to buy ot are willing to admit they caught in clinical trials.
>>75469656>no side effect from these meds is worse than heart disease from being a fat fuckTrue, I never implied otherwise. The mental stress an obese person suffers from losing weight the natty way and then maintaining indefinitely might well be more physically damaging than ozempig's sides. I'm still glad that I don't have to take it though and wouldn't use it to make cutting a bit easier or something banal like that.
>>75469644Complete nothing burger.
>>75469656>temporary non issue
>>75469656>>75469853
>>75469522It definitely reduces food cravings. But it is a giant waste of money if you're not maintaining a serious low calorie diet while taking it.
>>75469522it's ridiculous, went from being hungry all the time to eating a small meal and being full for 24 hoursit's definitely a game changer and it's turning around obesity numbers in the US
>>75469522>downsidesThe only downside is that it is very expensive and you also need a prescription for it. I want to get it but would even spend the ridiculous price tag. That said I refuse to go pay for a doctor and beg him to prescribe me some.
Hey OPI have been on tirzepitide for around a yearIm down 60lbs and its ALMOST a cheat code.Downsides>massive constipation>nausea is real and if you eat more than you can take , you will throw it up. Be careful of oily foods.However the massive downside is if you dont go to the gym and exercise on it you WILL lose muscle mass. even though i was fat i still had pretty juicy quads but they have completely vanished now because i didnt eat enough protien and didnt step in the gym once. I always had a small hank hill ass but now its completely gone. Its still a miracle drug however. The issue for fitness is that eating enough protein on the drug will prove difficult because its hard to eat on it. And eating too much will have you throw up. So be prepared to lose muscle unless you are a god at dieting and food prep (which would mean you likely dont need the drug in the first place)
>>75469531>It's the perfect drug. It kills appetite in the brain and makes complying with any diet a cakewalk. No side effects other than rare nausea.No sides is bullshit. I've taken tirze. It has side effects. They are worth it though. It was mostly constipation. You also feel hungry, you just resist it because you feel full at the same time. >>75469644That's only one component, but it is the biggest. It's also the one that lasts for awhile after you stop taking it. I took it for 4 months on a recomp. Then for about 3 months afterward, sometimes I would just get randomly stuffed.Like I remember going to in and out burger for the first time ever, being starved, and then being sickly full after one bite. And that was 3 months after my last pin. And I never even hit the full therapeutic dose. It does go away though.
>>75470872I lost that much weight in 7 months without any drugs, so this is no panacea.
>>75470945"i lost that much weight without drugs!"me too whats your point? maybe some people dont want to count their fucking calories and murder themself in the gym?
>>75470832Expensive? Lol.
>>75471028that image is poorly done CGI
>>75471022You fucking pussy
>>75471022It’s not that serious. I lost prolly 20-25 pounds of fat just eating reasonably healthy and doing Insanity for a few months. I didn’t count calories, I didn’t run 40 miles a week. Most people really don’t need to, but some would rather fuck themselves up with weight loss drugs than have the discipline and patience to do it right.
>>75471022>murder themself in the gymFirst off, weight loss is all diet. Second, you're going to kill yourself with Ozempic. Let's see how good it is for you when you're on it for 10 years.
It's just jojoing cause you gain it all back and more once you're off ozempig
>>75471205>you are killing yourself! no this is cope these drugs have been used for decades now. fitness industry is in complete peril because of this drug which is why you niggers are lashing out.
>>75471028Believe me the first ting I tried to do is get the vials through some Indian pharmacy from the grey market. Half of them use bit coins and the other half uses paypal as a payment option.I don't use meme currency like crypto trash. I am not sending any paypal payments to an online store. That is shady and screams scam.
>>75471248bro there are tons of online research chemical shops
>>75469522Apparently it makes you throw up constantly and for some people almost made them blind LMAO
>>75471219That is true of regular dieting as well, so what is your point?Its the next thing that needs to be solved.
>>75469960the same thing happened to mei dont have to worry about cico basically because the drug doesn’t allows you to eat any further lol
>>75469522I gained 40 pounds from taking psych meds and my doc said he will put me on this if i want and insurance can cover it. Do i do it?
>>75471597Meds cause issue.Take this med to fix the issue caused by that med...
>>75469659>Even the fucking manufacturer (you know the people with billions of dollars invested in you buying it) tells you that there are side effects like pancreatitisAre you retarded? they are the first ones to name ultra rare sometimes not even real side effects, just in case so they cant be taken to court because of it. This is true for any and all medical drugs.
If you wanna lose weight just do dry fasting instead of taking some Big Pharma poison.>how dare you! not everyone has the same amount of willpower to fast bla bla bla...There are literal women all over the Internet who've lost dozens of pounds with fasting.If you have less willpower than a woman you deserve to be shamed for it.
>>75469854Don't be a faggot
The shilling intensifies.
>>75471223are you actually retarded enough to believe the “fitness industry” telling you to get a planet fitness membership and buy their courses is more powerful than the pharmaceutical companies shilling these drugs as an alternative to a healthy lifestyle?
>>75471223>the fitness industry is in panic over a drug that makes you skinnyfat Are you retarded?
>>75471899Dry fasting is just edgy retard shit who want to be special snowflakes over water fasts when there is no good reason to bother with a retarded dry fast
>>75471941do you have any idea how badly people want to lose weight but cant
>>75469854>74 peopleBackground rates of the condition in the general population whenever a drug is taken by hundreds of millions of people.If you're constipated take two dulcolax.
Literally 2 people atnthe pharmacy in front of me in line picked up Ozemlic scripts. The first was a 40+ year old white woman who was quite fat. The second was a 30 something Latino guy who was quite fat, not not like the obese woman. It's so fucking popular I bet. We will see the effects long term. The devil usually takes his end of the bargain eventually. I'm doing fine on my cutting weight without it, so I have a no interest in spinning the lottery wheel on long-term effects.
>>75472085>The devil usually takes his end of the bargain eventuallyPeasant brain retard thinking.
>>75472023They can, they just won't stop stuffing their fat disgusting faces. What do these human planets pay for with regards to the fitness industry?
>>75472203The fitness industry failed society. While it may have been well intentioned and virtuous-in-itself it simply did not have the firepower to win the war on a mass social basis. Now the pharmaceutical industry has unleashed the heavy artilllery and achieved what the fitness industry could not to win the war against obesity. The role of the fitness industry is to win the peace and mould newly skinny bodies into something greater.
>>75472203>they canno as somebody who thought this before its just not true. There is literally something wrong with my body that normal people dont have. This drug proved to me i can subsist on a minescule amount of food without feeling like im starving to death.
>>75472116I'm looking forward to it kek.
>>75472231The fitness industry only exists thanks to sugar industry advertising. In the past people used to know they were fat from eating sweets. The sugar industry spent billions of dollars brainwashing people to think they are fat because they don't move enough.
>>75472387>sugar is badno its HFCS
>>75472203I eat once a day and dont even eat fatty food and im fat.
>>75472478exactly
>>75472478>>75473195It means you fat fucks probably gained a shitload of weight over time by never being active and eating more than you burn, and now that you are old you can't lose it because you still use zero energy by being inactive and having no muscle
>>75469854less than the covid vaxxine and that one is deemed safe and effective, cope and sneed
learning to enjoy the feeling of hunger is free
>>75469522It works, but you'll have bad consequences.If you don't have the discipline to stop shoving your fat face, you deserve every single side effect you will get.You obese subhuman.
>>75471248Wow you're not very smart.No wonder you're so fat.
>>75471597>psych meds made me gain 40 pounds Wow, how many calories per pill?Retard.
>>75473431Yeah but it requires an ounce of willpower.If they had that they wouldn't be obese fucks in the first place. They're so fucking weak.
>>75473605its true antipsychotics make you gain weight lol i didnt change my eating habit one bit and i gained weight like no tomorrow. But Doc said he can get me Ozempic if i want.
>>75472478>>75472023Do you low IQ niggers really believe that what makes you fat is "how many times you eat per day" or "eating fatty foods"?I'm ready to bet money you went to an American public school.
>>75473615whats wrong with American public schools as long as its a good county and not a ghetto
>>75473613No, antipsychotics do not make you "gain weight" you retarded faggot. Some drugs make you retain water, but it's just water and will go away once you stop taking the drug.Medicine doesn't magically make you produce pounds and pounds of fat out of thin air. How retarded can you be?YOU ATE EVERY SINGLE CALORIE THAT'S INSIDE YOUR FATYOU DIDN'T HAVE TOBUT YOU CHOSE TO
>>75473622Sorry your parents did the educational equivalent of child abuse.
>>75473623No it actually does make you gain weight you are just wrong and dont know what you are talking about
>>75473628You are the lowest gorilla monkey nigger on this board right now.Go on, explain to the class, how do you think those little pills make pounds of fat appear out of nowhere?We're listening.
>>75473634they just do
>>75473634They stimulate appetite whilst sedating the patient, causing them to eat more and move less, resulting in an energy surplus that is converted into body fat.
>>75473728So they do not make you gain weight at all, huh.People just ingest more calories and spend less of them, what a strange concept.We should call it something simple, as if to say that it was all about Calories In, Calories Out.
>>75471065And yet when I ordered it I received real vials of tirzepatide. Curious.
>>75473754Wrong.
Those mRNA injections worked so well. Same with statins, those are swell.Why would you ever NOT take pharmaceuticals? They're great!
>>75474478the guy that only ate snack cakes and doritos and oreos (and one protein shake a day, few people talk about that part though).i think carb restriction and fasting are helpful tools and i love bacon and cheese as much as the next nigga, but calm down
>>75474513Yes I am aware that Coca-Cola paid a guy to claim he lost weight eating Twinkies. Then they paraded him around fake news media to validate their claim that sugar doesn't cause obesity.What of it?
>>75474478The thermogenic effect of digestion is part of the "calories out" side of the equation, you sub-80 IQ nigger
>>75474538If everything is CICO, nothing is.
>>75474548Calories out literally means burning calories, you dumb retardIt's the sum of BMR + thermogenic effect + exerciseI hope you realize you didn't even take the time to understand the basics of what you're arguing against and simply decided to dogmatically accept whatever felt more palatable to you as the truth.
>>75474559Calorie is just a measurement. You are mindlessly parroting sugar industry marketing.
>>75471971Wrong.
>>75473754 >>75473634 >>75473623 >>75473605 >>75474559CICO has been scientifically disproven many times.Just because you can put something in a device that burns it and measures the amount of heat it emits, it doesn't mean shit. You can burn sawdust, kerosene and old rags and measure how many of your sacrosanct "calories" they emit. Why not eat that, genius?And your total weight isn't just body fat. There's bone density, the weight of your organs, water retention, etc. Losing or gaining "weight" is the most bare-bones metric you could possibly use for fitness outcomes. It's a gross oversimplification and as unscientific as it gets.You're too much of a seething midwit to understand these nuances. You've made it evidently clear you're not worth having any kind of argument with.
>>75471248>mad, fat, and POORlmao
>>75472203they can’t you two digit iq turd
Ozempic and similar drugs are absolute god tier drugs. All of humanity will be on them for health and longevity within 20 years. Obesity is 100% solved.
i always wanted to try sema to see how powerful it is. Peoples that used it, how much gainz did you lose with it? Good info is all on fatties with no muscle and 100+ pounds to lose
>>75471248lol what a retard
>>75475560you wont eat shit
>>75473605Anywhere from 50% to 80% of your caloric spending each day is on heat production, which is controlled by your hypothalamus. Medications that affect the brain can GREATLY affect your weight by ratcheting down your TDEE into the triple digits. If your TDEE was 2500 a day and then it drops to 800 but you keep eating 2500 a day, you'll gain a lot of weight fast. Furthermore, because a lot of what causes hunger is habit and not an actually empty stomach, you'll still "feel" hungry while gaining the weight.
