1st for nuns

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CaptainPlanet
141.4kg

>>75469747
post your progress op

I don’t think I’ll actually have visible abs by New Year’s Day :(

>>75469862
Time to eat 2 large pizzas

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confess

Ok I think I’ve hit a “plateau” but I’m not sure how. I’m 6ft 1in and weighed 280 pounds at the start of this. I cut my calories down to around 1200-1400 a day, even sometimes rounding up so I would be stricter with the number (so in my head I’ve ate 1300 that day but would be more like 1220). Today I weigh 263 pounds but in the last week I’ve apparently only lost 1/4 of a pound? Considering the calorie calculator tells me that extreme weight loss for my weight and height would be 1600 cals a day, I’m not sure what is happening. I’ll have to monitor this and see what the scales look like next week but I’m very confused. Is this a normal thing that can happen?

Calisthenics recs?

ten years I've struggled with losing weight
maybe this is the time I do it for good

>>75469941
Went out with friends and got Ramen, also had some korokke and takoyaki. When I got home I figured fuck it and had a donut. Surprisingly my water weight gain was only about a pound. Ain't no damage I can do in one day I cant fix in three though. I pushed the gym Saturday and was still feeling it Sunday.

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>>75469941
I must confess that I hate the papacy.

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>Mom keeps making snack food from recipes she saw off tiktok
>want to stay within my calorie goals but also want to make my mom happy
I can't work off all of these treats, she's doing it every day now

Fatty Contest
BetterNateThanLever
320 lbs

Progress.

>>75470005
Have you tried talking to her about it?

This wait timer is absolute aids.

>>75469999
Quads looking juicy and thick. Checked.
Be careful about the "fuck it" attitude. You're right that one day in isolation isn't a big deal, or even a small deal. But "fuck it" can lead to overeating more than you want to, and can make it easier to say fuck it next time.
I think its fine, probably even a good idea, to take it easy on diet sometimes when hanging out with friends/family. But its also a good idea to plan around it rather than just winging it, so you don't end up binging. It's also good practice for being mindful about how you eat after you reach your goals, so you are less likely to backslide.

>>75470141
I stopped posting from mobile entirely. Nothing I want to shitpost justifies waiting 15 minutes.

>>75469970
Yes, stalling can happen. Usually it doesn't last more than a couple weeks. If it's longer than that you likely need to change something.
I would say that you are likely in too steep of a deficit though. Try not to exceed a deficit of 1,000/day. I get the desire to get it over with, but its going to take time. Trying to speedrun it is more likely to lead to burn out, stalled progress and giving up.

>>75469747
>Doing cardio, even just walking, will improve your health. There is no such thing as a healthy diseased heart, but you can offset the risks.
Didn't this say "healthy obese heart" originally?

>>75469941
>went from 146 to 121kg in 14 months
>visited relatives in Ireland for a 4 days and they broke my perseverance
>told myself I'll just treat myself for the trip
>couldn't get back in the saddle afterwards
>went back to 129 in 2 months.
I think I'm back on track now, but the lack of self control worries me.

>>75470189
looks like it changed on Oct 4 and its been diseased ever since.


https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/75229307/
https://desuarchive.org/fit/thread/75234311/

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To this anon >>321256 if you're still here (I'm sorry to ping you). I just found picrel from my medical history. Would you say this decline is worth checking out even if it's in the "normal" range? I actually started above the normal range in 2016. Thank you.

>>75470276
meant for >>75468116 (I'm retarded)

>>75470240
>couldn't get back in the saddle
>for 2 months
Why though? What kept you off it for two months?

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Is there any reason I shouldn't just go zero carb?

>>75470309
No harm in trying it. If it works for you and gets the results you want, great. If it doesn't work or you can't get results, then you do something else. At the end of the day, the results are what matter.
We don't give ketobro a hard time because keto/carnivore/low-carb doesn't work—for a lot of people it works great. We only give him a hard time because he acts like that's the only thing that works.

One day I'll bake myself a ~2000 kcal apple cake for the day, and the keto tard will have a heart attack.

>>75470309
Your brain needs fuel and your body will synthesize it out of other stuff if it can't get real sugar, but the transition into that process is rough and the entire diet is generally heavy on your liver.
Why do you want to cut out carbs?

>>75470323
I've tried it before, and I lost a decent amount of weight, but that was years ago when I was younger and not feeling like shit every day.
>>75470330
Mostly a mental thing, I feel like I might find it easier to just cut them out entirely rather than try to watch my intake. It's easy to overeat with carbs, not so much with fat or protein.
basically I'm retarded and lack self control

>>75470257
They also changed "calories" to "carbohydrates"

>>75470355
>tried it before
>mental thing, lack self control
Give it a shot then. It's fine. Nothing to lose, really. If it works for you, great. If it doesn't, well you aren't really any worse off than you were. Except now you know it's not an effective method for you anymore, so you try something else.

>>75470355
>It's easy to overeat with carbs, not so much with fat or protein.
Its still easy to overdo fat, be careful.
Other than that, I did do almost zero carb for a while, seems to really help with hunger, at least for me. If it works, it works. Also, do what gives you results, not what random schizo anons say in the underwater basket weaving forums.

>>75470304
I dunno, I got into that dreadful loop of "I can get back to it tomorrow". I got too comfortable until I decided to step on a scale and saw I regained 8 kgs of lard.

>>75470382
I guess I don't understand how you can keep doing "I'll start tomorrow" for two months.
Do you do your own grocery shopping/cooking?

>>75470005
Same but it's just holiday baking and I also have the bug. I just take the tiniest bit to sample, then let them rest of the household finish it off for me. Gently let her know you can only have a sample.

>>75469999
Yakuza anon? I'm going to nip land in a few months, hard to say when yet with the whole passport thing pushing it out. I'm finally under 25BMI, I won't stick out tooooo horribly. My goal weight actually puts me right at their average. Brown isn't a crazy hair color. I'm short even by their standards. I've heard they don't use scented products though, will my scented deodorant and whatnot make me smell strange? Crazy I'm going to Hiroshima but Fat Man was delegated to Nagasaki

>>75470403
>I guess I don't understand how you can keep doing "I'll start tomorrow" for two months.
It starts as "I'll start tomorrow" and then grows into "ok I gained to weight, but as soon as I start the diet again I will take me only X time to drop it." and then into trying not to think about it while ordering takeout.
>Do you do your own grocery shopping/cooking?
Yes

>>75470403
Its called falling back into your old habits, so many Anons have done it they probably make up a majority. Its perhaps the single biggest pitfall to weight loss, you lose a good chunk of weight, you start feeling better, then your brain tells you "You've lost so much weight just treat yourself to a Hamburger and some fries today" or "I don't feel like cooking I'll just order a pizza" and then it tells you "its just for today/this week/this month" and the next thing you know you've regained some/all/even more than what you started at.

Your fatty brain will actively try to sabotage you, it wants to regain the weight back, it will trick you into thinking its no big deal, it will look for moments of weakness an feed you sophistry. This is why shortcuts are usually frowned upon, because part of losing the weight isn't just getting the lbs off, its keeping them off, building up the tolerance to your brain trying to fuck you.

>manlet
>Start cutting at 1700 calories
>Slowly reduce
>Am at 1200 now and some days eating close to 1000
>DYEL lifts still the same, just a bit harder
When am I going to implode

>>75469999
go away
>>75470446
do not come

>>75470502
I don't have a choice. It's work related. I'm staying in a very very American area if that's any consolation to you, and i have zero interest in intercoarse with locals. I'm not trying to be a trashy tourist or take bennies or act like a jeet.

>>75469747
Fatty Contest
Meyerboy
222.2

Check those quads

>>75470488
your metabolism is shot dude. stop cutting an fix it niggear

>>75469747
Is it the hard truth if someone has been morbidly obese their entire life(21 years) that their body will always look fat/flabby even if they lose weight? I was at 310 pounds and am currently 150 pounds, 10 away from what a healthy weight for me would be and my body still looks pretty fat.

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>>75470566
You fat sad sack of shit. You cannot slow your metabolism. A Google search, JEWGGLE ITSELF, will tell you that. Best case to do so is taking the /fast/ and /totally sedentary/ pill. Like a damn snail or sloth or brumating reptile. A human can't do it for realz, we can only get extremely lazy and extremely restrictive.
I don't know who i hate more, fatties who want others to stay fat, or ladder kicking former fats who don't want anyone else to make it.

>>75470608
If it's loose skin then you may still have a great chance of getting rid of it. If it's just still fat, just keep going big dog. If your brave, why not let others assess if you're actually that fatty still? It might even be time to recomp like
>>75468130
>>75468923
>>75468948
>>75469085

>>75470618
So low IQ. Yeah, the CO in CICO is only variable based on exercise, weight, build and height. A complex organism can't have any variation beyond that. Not like there aren't thyroid-suppressive chemicals in food and water. Not like modern diets are so poor they lead to suppression of the thyroid. NO! Cos jewgle says that metabolism isn't variable! Stupid fucking kike nigger.
I guess you'd be calling me a ladder kicker (though I've never been truly FAT-FAT, at most 23-24% BF which is still fat IMO). I'm absolutely not. I've learned from my past fuck ups with crash dieting and am giving my opinion from hindsight.

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>>75469747
Fasting and sauna? Good or bad? I'm 36h in, aiming for 72h.

>>75470659
The "metabolism" variation between 99.9% of humans is within 100 kcal/day.
You are full of shit.

>>75470717
Why?
Saunas do technically make you lose fat faster but by a statistically insignificant amount.
And water weight LITERALLY doesn't matter.

>>75470725
Yeah, that's why I'm currently losing weight on 2400kcal a day when in the past at a similar BF% (albeit with less muscle mass), exercise level etc. I'd struggle to lose at 1400/1500. You are a dumb nigger!

Enough with the catholic bs in the op and followups. That's literally the beast's church in Revelation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9f2aRTbKM

>>75470730
I mean, is it safe? I have a sauna timeslot on mondays and I'm pondering if I should go or not.

>>75470745
>I'm currently losing weight at this calorie intake I'm calculating poorly and those activities I completely fucking disregard
>I wasn't losing any weight at ONE FUCKING THOUSAND calories less ALLEGEDLY doing the """same""" thing
>it's MUH METABOLISM and not all of those factors I just fucking disregard
So true, anon.
You should get your body studied.
Imagine - the first EVER living and breathing human being with actual metabolism swings of 1000 kcal as opposed to literally everyone's ~100 kcal at the extreme, which was confirmed by every single study ever attempted time and time again.
They'll probably give you a Nobel Prize just for existing.

I was wondering how useful lifting is as opposed to doing a sport (cardio boxing, mma) as I am struggling on strength program, platoueing left and right and I aint getting mass anyway. My diet is fine, I'm hitting macros and calory goals, losing fat, but thinking if some sport would be more fun and benefitial to getting me lean quicker and then I can return to gym for bulk or near end of the cut and start again.
Doing both takes too much time I dont have..

>>75470766
I never tried to do sauna while fasted.
I also don't like the idea of accelerating your liquid circulation when you're already very likely to be circulating liquid rapidly.

That being said, a 72h fast mostly just leaves you a bit low on energy.
Just be ready to walk out if you feel dizzy, and you should be okay.

>>75470808
Maintaining what lean mass you have or adding more is a good thing. Muscle is more metabolically active than fat—accounts for about 20% of TDEE while fat is only 5%. Adding a pound of muscle won't make a huge difference, I think like 16 cal/day increase in TDEE. Still, more muscle only helps.
None of that matters though if you can't consistently stick to a lifting program. If you just can't stand to be in the gym lifting 2-4x/week, then absolutely do something else that you can enjoy or tolerate enough to keep doing. Movement is life.

>>75470659
I'm saying even that fucking bought and paid for jew will say no you can't lower your metabolism. I agree with >>75470790 you should be studied since you're different from every other human being.
>but the skinny POW died!
>but the skinny holobunga died!
Yeah and none at all were fat or chubby. They lost weight. All of them.

First day of my fast and I'm so fuckin hungry already. I usually have 0 food in my house when I do these but I have some ramen packs and I'm almost certain I won't have the self-control to not eat one after my walk tonight.

Metabolisms don't exist, you both just outed yourselves are retards.

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>>75470870
There's actually 3 of us, and yes they absolutely do but disorders thereof are so rare they barely exist and are very hard to study. We can measure it by CO2 output actually, but like other guy said it's really only up or down by 100cal

>>75470881
So you're saying if I deep cut, down to like 1000kcals a day I'll lose weight faster than if I eat the 1800kcals limit recommended by my TDEE? Because people were saying 'nnoooooo you'll fuck up your metabolism if you restrict calories too much!"

Fatty Contest
FatDumpster
92.6kg

>>75470927
The fastest way to lose weight is just by not eating at all.
It's just not sustainable for most and has a bunch of caveats.
The same is true for more severe calorie deficits.

The thing most people attribute to "metabolism slowing down because of the calorie deficit" is a fairly consistent and observable drop in NEAT (Non-exercise activity thermogenesis).
NEAT is basically just you doing things with your body. Moving around, fidgeting, stretching, etc.
If you're low on energy, you are very much likely to subconsciously start limiting your movement. It affects deliberate activities - you'll feel lazier, you'll be more willing to take the elevator instead of the stairs, etc.
It also affects subconscious and semi-subconscious - you'll become less fidgety.
It might sound stupid, but NEAT, even excluding everything "walking" and the like, so if you're completely sedentary, can easily account for 300~500 kcal you burn per day.
Drop in NEAT, then, can result in you involuntary reducing your daily expenditure by anywhere from 100~300 kcal. The higher end of that is absolutely observable and is very common.

That's a lot of words, but in the end, if you account for your NEAT potentially dropping and counteracting it correspondingly (by forcing yourself to move more), yes a drop in calorie intake will correspond to a very consistent fat loss long-term.

>>75470927
Yes. Yes I am. How would you treat your obese pet?
>less food
>more walks
Shrimple as.

Status? WAGMI

>>75470276
I don't know, those results seem completely benign to me. You had something going on in 2016, but it got resolved a while back and seems unlikely to have anything to do with your current situation.
In your shoes, I'd try the supplement route.
If you can't finish your workout, use lighter weights. Yes, even if you used to lift more. Being stubborn won't help here.
If you can't maintain proper form for even a few reps, use lighter weights. If your sets after the first one are much harder, take longer rests between sets. I commonly rest 5 minutes between sets.
Try to do your sets in front of a mirror / a dark window at night, so you can see if what's in front of you matches your reference videos. If something hurts, don't force it. Take the time it takes to recover and heal. You don't gain strength on workout days, but on recovery days.
Are you eating enough proteins? Heck, for that matter, are you eating enough? If you're essentially at your goal weight already, you might consider switching to maintenance while loading up on proteins, it would make it quite a bit easier for your body to translate your workouts into gains.

>>75469970
Plateaus happening in spite of a significance deficit means water retention. You're using up your glycogen and leaving behind water, and it will gradually build up and then "whoosh" over the course of a week or something when you suddenly drop 10 lbs. You can't really control when plateaus start or stop, except maybe by prolonged fasting.

>several people stopped me in work today to comment on my weightloss
I think I'm finally making it

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I upgraded my barbell from 42kg to 48kg
it fucked me but at least I can feel the muscle failure in 12 reps instead of spamming 20 reps without feeling much

Fatty Contest
mestionora
137.4kg

>>75471373
Scale no go down.....

>>75471453
It is what it is, I'll go a little harder this week to compensate. Hopefully it'll pay off next time.

does weight loss truly fulfill your spirit anonbros, i have a long term girlfriend who's truly beautiful and all i can ask for, i'm not legally obese but i'm definitely overweight. i just feel so fucking bored and sad when i'm doing anything but cardio/skateboarding or playing vidya or practicing guitar. it's so retarded because i have everything i need to be happy/confident/fulfilled.

also, i've already lost quite a bit. just feeling dissillusioned. 216lbs -> 190 so far. shouldve clarified

Weigh in was today. Dropped two more pounds in a week. That makes it an even 40 pounds this year and 95 pounds since I started losing weight. Probably could have lost more, but ate some cookies last night, much to my eternal shame. Upped my exercise further starting today.

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>129 Ibs yesterday
>no eating did some cardio didn't drink a lot of water
>131 Ibs today
>MUST be less than 128 Ibs by Thursday
BROS WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO?

How do you hide fasting from people you live with? I need to fast to reach my goals but I don't want them pulling an intervention on me.

>>75471575
sit in a sauna for an hour

is eating a salad alongside a pizza night an approved /fat/ method to help me not eat 6 slices at once?

How long should i except losing 25 kg is going to take?

>half a kilo a week
>50 weeks

Ain't no way this shit is going to take an entire fucking year to do right jesus christ

>>75471594
That's how long it's taken me. Also, the closer you get to your goal, the harder it gets to lose weight.

>>75471593
I did that and ordered a small thin crust. Was able to keep my calories under 1200 that day.

>>75471478
>>75471484
No, it wasn't fulfilling. I would be surprised if anyone found something as simple as losing weight fulfilling for its own sake. What came after losing weight is a different matter.
For example, when I was fat I was invisible to my nieces and nephews because I never spent any time with them. I was just the fat lazy uncle that sat on the couch. I didn't have to be like that, but I was.
Now that I'm in good shape, I made an effort to interact with them, and now they are excited to see me. Always want me to pick them up and toss them on couches/into the pool, play catch, push them on swings, etc. That's the kind of shit that is actually fulfilling, and what makes weight loss and getting fit worthwhile.

>>75471594
It'll go faster if you do prolonged fasts but it's miserable and you'll lose muscle mass. A linear half a kilo a week most likely isn't going to happen regardless though so it'll take longer than you estimate anyways.

>>75471327
People at my work now say they are getting worried. I've lost 32lbs in 8 weeks. For context I'm 5'10" and currently weigh 152lbs.(was184lbs.)

I keep going tho

>>75471636
its jealousy anon. they dont want you to succeed. theres nothing a depressed person fears more than someone who they see as being equal to them, improving themselves and possibly leaving them behind one day. fuck em, keep going, never forget they secretly hate you and want you to fail

>>75469941
I'm going to kill people when I'm near the end of my life

I did 4 pullups @ 200 lbs!!
WAGMI!!

How do you guys deal with counting if you get lunch at work?

>>75471829
I bring my own food since it tastes better and is cheaper anyways. if it can't be avoided I just eyeball it and stop being autistic about 1 meal

>>75471829
estimate

Fatty Contest
CaptainPlanet
140.3kg

>>75471836
someone should make a game where you have to estimate calories in an image of food

like geoguesser but for food

>>75471746
I was able to hang on the pull-up bar for 30 seconds @ 300 lbs

Didn't even come close to an actual pull-up though.

>>75471829
Cronometer has a barcode scanner

>>75471864
>american can't fathom the concept of eating anything other than processed foods that come in sealed plastic

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>>75471864
im not talking about frozen pizza here

>>75471875
My work never does anything nice like this, we'll occasionally get pizza's delivered

>>75471882
We have an inhouse kitchen and staff that does this every single day

recommend me a good personal body weight scale. should I get one of those beam scales, like the kind you see at the doctor's office, or are digital scales good enough?

>>75471894
The new digital scales with like an app that give body composition reports are pretty neat.

>>75471894
get a cheap digital scale

avoid all the shit with bluetooth and body composition stuff it's completely fucking worthless and inaccurate

>>75471897
And useless since theyre wildly inaccurate

>>75471897
>>75471900
any specific recommendations? like a particular name brand or nah? I mean, it's all chinese trash anyway, right?

>>75470566
Yeah you're probably right but the temptation of having this process go faster is drawing me in, I'll prob realistically raise back up to 1500 once my lifts start legit plummetting.

>>75471905
Yeah pretty much, just get something cheap that works. They've all got the same $3 components inside.

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>>75471577
I'm looking at starting a fast sometime next month, but I live alone. Anyways, tell them it's in both Christianity and Buddhism. Plus there's this.

>>75471594
I was losing 1 kg every 6 days. But what >>75471600 says is true. My body just doesn't want to give it up the lower it goes. Plateaus keep happening more frequently and lasting longer with the whooshes being far shorter. I've taken to prolonged fasting because I'm just sick of it at this point, it's mentally unsustainable. I have a goal date that's in less than 2 weeks and dammit I'll be there.

I'm thinking of going until I'm 2-3 kg less than my goal so that when I start to (carefully) refeed for a couple weeks, the regained weight will leave me around my goal.

>>75471956
if you dont care about muscles, then just fast. cut as aggressively as you can physically and mentally sustain. thats the only reason i dont fast ; i dont want to lose muscle.

Fatty Contest
YoshiP
178 lbs

>>75471961
I don't care about muscle that much, at least not at this point. Even if I end my fast and refeed around 14% body fat (3-4% higher than what I would like), I can stay at maintenance and switch entirely to lifting which I've neglected for now. I had some muscle a couple years ago that I should be able to rebuild faster, and I should also be able to get some recomp in too, so I think I can work my way down to 10-11% over a couple months without changing my goal weight. I'll also be doing constant core training.

From there, I can choose to work my way back up with bulking and stop at the body type I find ideal. I'll have so much leeway before being overweight that I'm sure to find something I'm satisfied with.

>>75471982
whats your goal and why? sounds like youre in a hurry

I've gotten significantly less picky over the years, eg learning to eat sea food and dairy. So I make it a habit to try food I didnt used to like, like lentils and chickpeas.
Today I tried rye bread. It fucking sucks so much and I took 1000kcal of it to work. Still got two slices left, I want to finish it out of principle but its just slightly gross. On the one hand, this disproves ketoschizo, since eating carbs has curbed my hunger. On the other hand, it has completely vindicated ketoschizo's decision not to eat carbs. I will call it a draw and will find better ways to dab on him in the future.

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>>75470618
>tfw I'm so retarded, fat and gluttonous I thought that pic was of cookie dough ice cream in a tub that's fallen on its side

>>75472021
moron

>>75471575
Eat as few calories as possible, drink HOT/WARM black or minimal additives coffee, do light cardio

>>75471993
Man, age 30
Height: 175 cm / 5'9"
Step 1 (current): Reach 18.5 BMI (56.65 kg / 124.9 lbs)
Step 2: Lifting + Toning + Core training at maintenance (until 10% body fat, also want to correct rib flare and rounded shoulders + posture)
Step 3: Bulking (open-ended goal)

I set a BMI goal because big muscles aren't the ideal where I'm going, BMI is typically the target for beauty there, but I'll adjust as necessary. I'll also have an excuse and buffer to overeat for a while.

2-3 years ago, I was 110+ kg / 240+ lbs, and I lost a lot of it in 2022, and was at my lowest of 72.5 kg / 160 lbs in the first half of 2023. I was back up to 85 kg / 187 lbs in June 2024, so I wanted to work it off. I told myself I would be done by the end of November based on both my track record when I actively worked hard at weight loss in 2022 (30 kg in 7 months with cheat days) and also because I didn't want to deal with cutting in December. After my first week-long fast ended 10 days ago, I was at 58.9 kg / 129.9 lbs, but I was really dehydrated and not supplementing enough. I realized in the week after the first fast that I was so burned out from trying to reach my goal for so long that I stopped caring about what I ate for a few days. So I decided to go back to fasting and get it over with, bulking hard on the final day with my weight being around 65.1 kg / 143.4 lbs. I'm currently 61.5 kg / 135.6 lbs, and I'm taking extra supplements and making sure I stay hydrated so the water and food weight gain at the end of the fast isn't as severe and I'm left around my goal after all is said and done. I'm wondering if I should let it fall all the way down to 53 kg, based solely on the whole "men should have up to 3.7 liters of water a day" thing, so that's a 3.7 kg buffer after refeeding.

>>75472198
Also, if anyone has suggestions for food to avoid after a prolonged fast, I'd appreciate it. I have bone broth, soft-boiled eggs, and broccoli I can steam, and I intend to avoid carbs for a couple weeks. Once I get to more solid foods, I'm going to make a week's worth of skinless boneless chicken. I don't want to avoid carbs forever, but I'd like to gradually reintroduce them without gaining everything back. Just how much glycogen will my body store up?

>>75472198
it sounds like you know what youre doing. but whats the hurry?

>>75472255
Mental fatigue leading to burnout when I'm so close to the end of my goal. If weight loss was linear, it wouldn't be a problem, but I keep hitting plateaus now where nothing changes for at least 4 weeks, and I can't stand waiting to see if I've hit my goal for at least an extra month, especially when that month is December. I plan on being at maintenance with additional cardio to offset the extra if I go over throughout December, I don't want to keep cutting. Thus my solution is to bruteforce it with prolonged fasting and get to step 2.

I have one of those half pound Reese's waiting for me, and I'd like to be comfortable at my goal when I eat it.

>>75471577
You already ate, you're not hungry, be out of the house (avoiding mealtimes and making the excuse you already ate), YOU cook and tell them you snacked too much while making the meal to eat

>>75471593
Yes as long as it's not drenched in dressing

>>75471636
Alcoholics HATE when you won't drink with them.

>>75469941
Had 2 apple fritters and glass of choccy milk. I'm still within my calory limit but I'm hungry like a mf.

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>>75472198
If you don't like regaining weight like that just avoid carbs.

>>75472213
Beef is drastically superior to chicken. Also there's no reason to eat low-fat. Eat beef with 1:1 protein to fat by weight. 80/20 ground beef is good.

Costco grass fed beef patties are a perfect food.

>>75471577
When I first brought up the idea of a 1 week fast, my family got emotional and would try to shut me down and refuse to even entertain the conversation, saying I would die. So I did the 1 week fast without telling them, I just tried to be busy around mealtimes, and I would put away the leftover food in the kitchen and mention the leftovers were in the fridge. I would say "Oh I had some of this and that" or mention stuff that I snacked on, and any time someone tried to offer me something, I'd say "Oh I'm trying to reset my gut microbiome right now so I can't eat that/I have to avoid carbs".

After 1 week I started eating again and revealed what I had done. They were somewhat surprised and said it was a good thing I didn't tell them until I was done. Now that I'm on my second prolonged fast, I've made it known and they're much more cooperative now that they realize I'm not going to die and that most people can go without eating for months.

>>75472371
are you a fucking child, nobody is going to control what i do

move the fuck out

>>75472377
Either you're the guy saying he's afraid of an intervention from the people he lives with or you're some rando jumping into the conversation.

After eating clean for a while now I had an unexpected change: Ketchup has started tasting disgustingly sweet. And the protein bars at the gym too. Why don't they have savory protein bars anyway?
> inb4 just eat meat
Not wrong, but bars are just so convinient.

>>75471227
ty anon everything you posted has been really helpful, i appreciate it

>>75472412
I had a glass a regular coke at a friend's place after 2 weeks of no sugar

I got half way through it

>>75469941
i hate going to my family's thanksgiving meal. i don't dislike anyone i just don't have anything to say or anything interesting to share.

>>75471602
>>75472338
did it and only ended up eating 3 slices... very good for me desu
was tempted to go for a 4th but i knew it'd bloat me, which usually doesnt stop me, but i resisted
viva salad

>be woman
>lose 30 pounds so far
>all of it from my thighs and boobs instead of my stomach or double chin
Nice

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5'2/157 cm and 74 kg/163 lbs. I'm on the verge of becoming a obese bmi and have a hard time controlling my diet. Managed to lose it all with volume eating and running, and got to an underweight bmi while I wasn't living with family. But gained it all back with binge eating when I moved back in. Can't control the food in the house and there's always tasty stuff around. I keep telling myself "ok this is the last time in a while you'll have gluttonous food" and do a high cal meal, last for like a week of decent eating, then have another relapse. I've managed to learn how to cook ok tasting and healthy food, it's just the issue of controlling myself around all this tasty food that's right there every day. Any advice? They aren't willing to not buy/hide the tasty food.

>>75472517
im wondering when my gut will start taking a hit, you'd think the body would have discovered this resevior of liquid fuel right in front of it

So, once you're no longer repulsive to women, how do you get laid?

>>75472519
The only solution is self-control unfortunately

>>75472533
By using the humor and social skills I developed to overcompensate my weight with when I was fat. I got laid at my most repulsive, only difference now is the women I'm nailing are looking better and better.
Funniest part is that I actually convinced myself that I was into heavier women because that's who I could generally get...turns out fit/thin chicks that you can lift and throw around the bed are the absolute most fun to bang.

>>75472517
i'm sorry for your loss

>>75472517
Tits or GTFO

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>Old woman who works part time came back to the office after being off sick for a month
>"Wow Anon have you lost weight, you're looking slim"
WAGMI

>>75472569
does she know you've been trying to lose weight? I usually ignore compliments from people who I've told because they're just being nice and may not have genuinely noticed a difference.

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>>75472412
>bars are just so convenient
Get yourself some salami sticks.

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>>75472519
If you go zero carb the cravings will diminish within a few days and eventually you won't even consider carbs food.

>>75472193
If I drink warm water and do a shit ton of cardio and don't eat at all until Thursday, do I have a good chance? I'm going to be taking some laxatives too. Do I need to sleep to lose this weight too? I was going to pull all-nighters tonight and tomorrow. Fuck I'm fucking scared. Fuck.

>>75472670
kys cultist

I went to donate some plasma today for the first time. It was fine, but now I'm a ravenous beast, and already 250 past my daily calorie intake. I'm going to assume that's okay and not feel guilty about it.
But apparently I'm not supposed to work out either, which is more annoying.
I'm going to need to schedule those things on recovery days or it's just going to be a pain.
I'm planning to do 6 of those, followed by whole blood donation, and then I get back on finasteride to break my cock again.
Then 4 months later, I get off finasteride again, wait a month, and do the whole thing again.
Ah, the joy of having entirely too much free time.

>>75471829
If it's takeout then it's online, if it's cafeteria food try to guess or avoid it. Or make it yourself.

>>75472690
Yeah you'll be down 2-3 lbs at least if you fast until then. I'm like 8 lbs lighter and I've fasted for less than 72 hours

I pigged the fuck out today bros. Carbs are my weakness. Shit like bread, cakes, anything like that. I just can't help myself. I'm gonna go for a 2 hour walk to punish myself. Fuck...

Ate 2 hours ago and my stomach is already growling. Having a big appetite is a curse.

>>75471575
Update: I just weighed myself and came in at 128.2 Ibs. I didn't do any cardio or take large shits, just drank a lot of water. WAGMI?

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Thanksgiving is coming. Grandma is making pie. I don't know if I'm strong enough.

Fatty Contest
Endless
99.9kg

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>>75472913
>He has a grandma

I have a month to lose as much weight as possible, any advice?

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>Thanksgiving coming
>Christmas coming
>I'm Italian-American and people love giving me food because I'm the fat one
I'm not feeling good bros.

>Gone down from 85kg to 65.2kg
Feel fucking great and my IBS has only happened once in three months. Losing weight was the best decision of my life.

>>75472356
Beef patties are pretty good when fresh cooked. I tried meal prepping patties by cooking up a few at a time but they never reheat as well. I might buy some 80/20 and make up a heap of patties and freeze. Might be the best way going forward for me.

>>75472939
Do as much volume cardio as possible while restricting intake

>>75472913
>>75472947
I just don't torture myself and eat normally on those occasions. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter.

>>75472939
Fasting. Week long fasts are likely impossible so something like 2 day fasts followed by an eating day if you can swing it.

Why do drugs, or fast food, or anything else that's bad for you, when you can just walk until your feet ache and then touch them?

Chicken breast in the slow cooker is pretty good. I used some chicken stock and some franks as the liquids and some chipotle seasoning, cooked on high for 4hrs, shredded it, added more seasoning and put into containers. Its delicious, even just eating cold.

>>75473092
I'm not a picky eater but chicken breast for 4 fuckin hours in a slowcooker would be stringy and dry as fuck. Chicken breast is done at 155F internal temp, you nuked yours to like 190 at least lol. Thighs can stand up to being cooked that long but not breast.

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FatToFit, Day 19

Current Weight: 202.4lbs
Calories Eaten: 1,450 (protein shake, 2 burgers, egg whites, turkey sausages, chocolate, cottage cheese)
Protein Eaten: 130g
Exercise Today: none, rest day

Starting Weight: 211.8lbs
Height: 5'10"
Goal: <15% bodyfat

Boring day, I do not really enjoy rest days.
Tomorrow I will jog 6mi, test how many sit ups I can do in 2min, do 3 sets of 27 push ups and one set of 19, and see how many chin ups I can do in a row preferably 5
Previous: >>75468828

>>75472377
Anon they made it very very clear that they would check him into a mental facility or force feed him if he was transparent, like it or not that's how normies think. If you aren't eating several times a day you have an unhealthy relationship with food. Day long fasting or longer is anorexia, but like he said: a week without food will kill you! I remember growing up hearing humans could go 3 days without water and 3 weeks without food. The longest surviving dry fast recorded was 18 days. The longest wet fast recordes was over a year. Most people just wouldn't believe that's true, OR would say that's torture because a day without food is torture I knew a kid who's church made the kids fast competitively because Jesus did it for over a month, he tapped at 18 hours because it was just too hard and he "was dying".

>>75472517
Just means your boobs were all fat no meat (as in glandular tissue, the milk making stuff). Nothing of value lost. For thighs just spam legs to get the thick legs back, it'll be way better than before and burn more calories for you.
>>75472519
On the verge? You're pretty much there. Start looking into other addiction resources:
>what works an alcoholic in recovery do if forced to live with other alcoholics who had ZERO interest in recovery?
>why do you keep saying "one last hoorah"?
>why can't you just buy food for only you and make your own dinners?
>why can't you move out? Even randos must be better than obesity.

>>75472690
You do need sleep yes. I recommend coffee or tea over warm water because it IS laxitive and won't hurt you

>>75473168
>doing an exercise every day
why? you should give yourself adequate time to rest between exercises. yes, that includes pushups and chinups too.

>>75473239
I took today off and I only did push ups yesterday. I hate rest days because they are depressing

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>>75473159
Nah, is moist as fuk. might try a blend of thighs and breast next time though for more flavour

What is the easiest dinner I can eat everyday that is minimal to no prep? I just need something I can consistently have ready to go stocked so I dont have to fuck around in the store and give myself reasons to eat badly.

>>75473306
Scrambled eggs or an omelette. I don’t mind breakfast for dinner myself, though.

>>75469747
1 TABLESPOON OF OIL IS 120 CALORIE WTF
I ALWAYS USE 2 PER 1 FRIED RICE MEAL

>>75473309
1/3 of a rotisserie chicken. Warm = by itself. Cold = by itself if eating the legs, because dark meant, or with a dollop of mayo if eating one of the breasts.
Feeling fancy? Grab some steamable vegetable bags and, like, steam them. If you don't enjoy mushiness, you could pan-roast them for a bit, but otherwise just salt and pepper them and call it done.

>>75472356
>visible collarbones
What a whore. At least blur it out.

>>75472356
>MD
>thinks low carb is worth doing
absolutely retarded. look how small his arms are compared to his torso as well.

>>75473260
genuine goyslop

>>75473487
kek, you're nuts

Day 4 of ??? for fasting. Get a little dizzy when standing but not as bad as last time, and I have way more energy. I'm losing weight technically as fast as possible, but I'm feeling impatient.
https://youtu.be/uMyCa35_mOg

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I'm so hungry

>>75473649
>I'm feeling impatient
time to add ephedrine and caffeine and yohimbine and LISS to your diet then

Still drinking alcohol. Weight loss has stagnated. Enjoying it less and getting sleepy. I'm going to try cutting it out.

SomethingI found helpful if you are hard on yourself:
Open an excel file and log your calories for the week (one cell per day) and set a formula to add them all up in the final cell. Below your actual calories, put your goal calories and have them add up. Finally, add additional cells below your weekly goal calories to show other places you might end up. This helps you reframe cheat days and get an idea of the progress you're making even if you go over.

For example:
>Actual Calories for Week of Nov 11: 14,010
>Goal for -2lbs: 12,250
>Calories for -1lb: 15,750
>Calories for Maintain: 19,000

So like this, I can see that I went over my planned calories for the week, but am still on pace to lose 1.4lbs for the week.

>>75473722
>drinking alcohol
Ngmi

>>75470005
Careful anon, family that let you get fat in the first place will likely turn into turbo gains goblins when they realize you're making them look bad.

>>75472533
I go swimming and use my loose skin to glide through the water like a manta ray and then when I swim under a pretty lady I pause and allow my folds to flutter around me like i'm a jellyfish and trap my prey in my fuck folds. It also helps to develop a sense of humor and personality.

Any recommendations for some healthy oils? I've been trying to cut onions and seed oils out of my diet. Found out almost all sauces and mayo are choc full of onions. Trying to look for healthier oils but I'm finding a lot of conflicting info online about what's healthy and what's not between seed oils, plant oils etc. I made some mayo with Avacado oil the other day and it was pretty good. Is Grapeseed oil a viable option?

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>feeling depressed
>didnt binge eat to make myself feel better
im gonna make it bros

Yeah, bros, it's drinking day and I haven't eaten anything today!
I'll probably finish at my TDEE, lmao.
It's good to live good.

>>75473990
why don't you drink a little less today anon. Just because you can go to your tdee doesn't mean you have to. You'll be glad you did that tomorrow.

>>75473990
>Tuesday
>drinking day
Truly ngmi

>>75474019
whiskey fasting is based, joe!

>>75474045
>consume calories
>Fasting
This guy is actually retarded

Feeling extremely depressed. Ate a PBJ which put me at maintenance. I will rise again tomorrow bros.

>>75474052
Um there's no calories in whisky because it's liquid only food has calories

>>75474059
Depression isn't real, get over it.

>>75474075
My brother is dating an African and my life is a mess. Depression is real, just like your homosexuality.

>>75474081
That's your brother's problem. God I fucking hate people who are like "my [relative] has this problem" as if it somehow relates to them. It fucking doesn't.

>>75474096
Yes, feelings towards others is a normal human response. Narc, sociopath, and homo. Your personality profile is coming together quite nicely.

>>75474097
You're a weak person. You're overweight and you get upset about other people's problems. You don't know the first thing about psychology.

>Noooo my brother is having sex with a big booty African I'm gonna cry and eat myself to death

>>75474103
None of that tracks logically and lol lmao don’t try to pretend you’re some expert in psychology, Dr. Faggot.

>>75474097
>thinks he knows everything about psychology
>is depressed
perhaps youre more of a narcissist than you think, dr peterstein

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>>75474075
>>75474081
>>75474096
>>75474097
>>75474103
>>75474114
>>75474119
>>75474124
get a room you two

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>>75472751
Knowledge is power.

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>>75473306
Frozen hamburger patties with ready-to-eat foods like dill pickles and aged cheese.

Canned salmon mixed with creme fraiche. Also add a dill pickle.

Bacon and eggs.

Salami.

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>>75473459
He's Jewish.

>>75473860
No grapeseed is garbage. No seed/vegetable oils are good. Fruit oils might be kind of okay (e.g. olive, palm, avocado).

The best choice is to just use animal fats. You can make homemade mayo with butter. Butter and tallow are the healthiest fat sources by far due to things like fat soluble vitamins, phytosterols, fatty acid profile, etc.

>>75474208
Clearly just a difference in body composition rather than diet. Left has a higher body fat percentage and underdeveloped pectorals.

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>>75474279
lol, lmao even

>>75474280
>gained muscle mass
>gained a bit of body fat
>grew older
>started doing manual labour
The differences in the before and after pics have absolutely nothing to do with what food was eaten.

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>>75474299
sure, bud

>>75472905
Just weighed myself and came in at 123.8 Ibs. On Thursday I have to do as many situps in a minute I can, as many pushups in a minute I can, and do a 1.5 mile run within 15 minutes. I don't know how to proceed with this.

>>75474452
Schizo

>>75469941
only had black coffee and crackers then called it a day

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>>75471575
>must
the world's not going to end if you miss your self imposed deadline by a day ana-kun

>>75474490
It's not self-imposed. It's a military thing

'Bout to make some chili and just realized that I don't own a can opener. I've lived here for six years.

>>75474680
Ooooooohh your in fat boy camp

>>75474206
your plating is atrocious.

>>75474019
>>75474034
I drink like twice a month, give me a break.

The scale has been showing the same weight - 69.8kg for the last week. My goal weight is 69.5kg, I've been so adherent to my diet and my 800 calorie deficit for the last 11 weeks and I NEED this last 0.3kg to budge. It's infuriating bros.

Hate to use the term food noise, but all I can think about right now is my next meal. My stomach is like a pit and I am desperate to start eating maintenance. I wake up and plan my days calories before I even get out of bed and feel totally controlled by my diet/exercise routine right now.

I told myself initially that I was going to reverse out of my diet, but actually feeling like I'm going to do a full jump to maintenance for 3 days and just deal with the water weight. (And then maybe do a reverse)

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This shit right here made me fat. Empty calories, made me lazy as shit the next few days, craved it almost everyday and ended up drinking more days than I was sober

I cut that shit out and I lost weight like it was no problem what so ever. If people binge drink thats why youre fat. Its not a weight problem, its an alcohol problem

I could drink once a week and that would make me lazy for the entire week.

you guys can do it. i was 275 lbs @ 6’4. 18 months ago. total drunk, i quit everything and started eating clean. i run 3 miles a day and do push ups. im about 205 now, obviously not ripped or anything but not ashamed to look in the mirror. just get a routine going and stick with it.

>>75474865
How else can I arrange three individual foods on a plate?

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>>75475128
Cut the pickle into wedges, arrange them in an overlaying pattern, get some color on the meat, generally get creative.

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>>75475069
You are experiencing the inevitable mid-stage of the CICO hoax diet which was promoted to sell sugar, not to help anyone lose weight.

The final stage is you regain all the weight you lost plus extra.

If you want to escape the cycle of hunger, neuroticism, and inevitable failure: STOP EATING CARBS. It's really that easy. Just quit carbs and you can eat unlimited meat, eggs, etc. This will get you to a lean body composition long term effortlessly.

>>75475144
I will try better next time.

>>75475147
I look forward to it.

>>75475145
>excited to see reply
>it's the anti-carb brigade
>:(

The maximum amount of carbs I eat is 140g a day from oats, brown rice, fruit and veg. I want to live like a normal person who can enjoy time with friends/family and not be even more obsessed with my macros than I currently am.

>>75475117
nice one. Are you still trying to lose or in maintenance right now?

>>75475185
if youre eating at a 800 calorie a day deficit you are losing like 1.5lb a week. Stop panicking if you arent losing weight daily linearly thats expected

you gotta stop putting so much faith into your body losing the exact amount of weight everyday and stop being neurotic. If you are eating at a 500 calorie a day deficit you lose a lb a week. Its that simple. Weigh yourself less often if you cant handle the pressure of the scale number. Either that or count calories better

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>>75475185
There's nothing normal about measuring what you eat and logging it in a diary.

>>75474862
It's ROTC at my uni, so I'm not there yet

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>>75475191
>you gotta stop putting so much faith into your body losing the exact amount of weight everyday
Yeah.

A rational person would bet that he will start regaining weight soon. Pic related.

>>75475185
im maintaining now but i think that is because im replacing the last of my fat with muscle. i got a bench press and barbells in the garage. i will do 3 miles still in the days i lift because it now feels like a warm up jog and the off days i will run 5 miles and try to get in 100 push ups throughout the day, usually 4 sets of 25. i was always chasing a head change with drugs and alcohol but the feeling of working out and being healthy tops any of that feeling to be honest for me now.

just a reminder that when ketoschizo contradicts the sticky (which is always) he is wrong and when hes accidentally right its superfluous

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down to 360 meaning 29.5 lbs lost.

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Just a reminder: cut all carbs out of your diet.

>>75475197
I'm so sorry that you fell victim to what is unironically one of the world's worst fitness regiments. The world's largest megacorporation who literally cannot tell the difference between a day's worth of water weight and body fat.

I hope the stress you're feeling right now will teach you a very valuable lesson about this program as a whole.

>>75469941
Seeing obese fat fucks makes me feel less disgusting about myself

>>75473990
This post reeks like cute little bitch tits and jiggly fupa fat

>>75475388
Seeing myself in the mirror makes me feel disgusted

>always considered myself a disgusting slob akin to the comic book nerd from Simpsons
>down 60 pounds to 190
>starting to look not horrible but have a ton of progress to make
>women actually talking to me, a thing I have never experienced before. Like. I've had girlfriends I've lived with so I'm not an incel. But it was always women I was able to seduce or convince online via text and sucker them into it, let's be real. Now they're actually talking to me
It doesn't feel real and it also feels like I've done something wrong or am cheating somehow. I have no idea why but I feel very guilty and bad about being healthier and more in shape.
It's not like I'm getting swarmed or anything, just being talked to at all is a different experience. Chad really does live on another level doesn't he, nowonder he makes people seethe so much.
Thanks for reading my blog.

>>75475629
not only are you not "cheating" or doing anything wrong now, all your previous girlfriends count as well, you are and have always been a stud, just with imposter syndrome
I kneel, honestly

I'm too afraid to go back to maintenance calories. I'm on a plateau that just won't budge.

>>75475197
What are your other stats? Ive never seen any military branch so strict about weight, for God's sake the marine corporation could not give a flying fuck as long as you're under 18% BF and above like 10. The navy keeps fat boys because nobody will enlist. You're not even allowed to say a female us heavy because she'll cry and you'll be demoted fir making a female cry.

I ate lunch today. I know i shouldn't have done it but i did. My whole body has been aching and groaning after yesterday. I just needed food so bad.

>>75475769
Fatty excuses

I have donated blood a few hours ago. They made me eat high caloric stuff like mini pizza so I wouldn't faint but I'm still dizzy even after sleeping for 2 hours.
Should I give my caloric deficient diet a rest for a while due to that? They at least said I shouldn't exercise until after tomorrow.

>>75475780
Fatty excuse to eat.

>>75475780
Hydrate and eat foods high in iron or supplement it. You can still be in a deficit.

>>75469941
I went 650 calories past my daily target yesterday. I went to give plasma, and that somehow turned me into a ravenous beast. I ended up eating 200g proteins, far past my 150g target, along with 30g of extra carbs and 40g of extra fats.
The carbs all came from the plasma donation center shoving a "protein drink" in my hands, which turned out to be an Ensure shake with 33g of carbs.
Anyway, the scales went up this morning, because of course they did.
Next donation is Friday, I gotta do better.

Fatty Contest
xXxDarkWeedAngelxXx
228 lbs

>>75475755
Whenever I plateau for more than 2 weeks I do a 72 hour fast and it always works to beak it.

>>75475794
Understood

>>75475851
Once I get a new ID I might try donating. Need the money. $400 a month if I go twice a week. I did it a couple of times in 2020. The first time I didn't hydrate enough and my blood got stuck in the machine. Kek.

wtf to do against lose skin

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uh, ketolardbros? I dont feel so good...

>>75475356
If a simple BMI measurement is enough to filter me, I'm clearly not cut out for it. It sucks because I like the people here and it's actually fun. Never had friends like them before.
>>75475765
>other stats
Idk. I'm 5'0" so my BMI is not even remotely acceptable.

>>75475995
You know, I've been looking for ways to use my cocoa powder. Maybe I'll try making some fresh shit-from-a-butt later.

>>75474376
Only difference here is loss of body fat, which comes from consuming less calories, which is nothing to do with plant based or meat based diet.

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>>75474680
>it's a military thing
>>75475197
It's ROTC at my uni

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Making stir fry beef and broccoli tonight, picrel. Is vegetable oil terrible for you or is it canola that's bad?

>>75476120
>Not using Olive Oil
ngmi

>>75474680
You're not in the military, do not ever use the word military again.

>>75476125
Olive oil is like 6x more expensive.

>>75475145
You hurt his feelings with bullshit, anon. All he has to do is eat less. He's clearly addicted to food.

>>75476132
And also 6x less aids for ypu

Remembered I hadn't updated my weight in google fit for a while and it was set at 103.5. I'm 92.5 now so 11kg difference. Felt validating and good.

>>75476141
based, wagmi

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>>75476141

>>75476120
The evils of seed oils are mostly exaggerated.
People focus on that like it's the worst thing in their food chains when it doesn't make the top 20.
If you're a health nut who's already doing everything else right, then yes at some point the logic next step is to avoid those oils and favor EEVO and such. But by then you're already avoiding stir frys entirely to minimize your acrylamide intake so you laugh at the question while you enjoying your incredibly healthful EEVO in cold dishes.

>>75476120
Both are bad for you. You should be using olive oil.

>>75476179
> EEVO
I meant EVOO. Of course. Stupid acronyms.

My knee now crackles when going up stairs.

>Do OMAD
>2k calorie meal at night
>look at it and think "this does not feel like a lot of food"
>half way through or three thirds through the meal i am completely full
>this has happend several nights in a row now

why is the brain/eye so much greedier than the stomach? I keep thinking this does not look like a lot of food but i am completely full every time

maybe i legit have some sort of food perception disorder

>>75476293
what are you eating, include every ingredient, even ones you think have little to no calories

>>75476293
>2k meal
>this isn't much
Peak fatty brain

>>75476322
i count every single gram of food in the meals

but with some protein sources, some veggies and shake to go with, the meal adds up QUICKLY in terms of satity and it hits you like a truck

I just dont understand how my brain can go from "This is a tiny amount of food o god im gonna go hungry to bed this sucks" and then 20 minutes later be like "goddamn i can barely move"

>>75476324
Depens on how calorie dense. 1 donut lathered in peanut butter wouldn't look like a lot but could easily be 1k calories.

>>75476015
>If a simple BMI measurement is enough to filter me, I'm clearly not cut out for it
That's what I'm saying. The largest, best-funded fitness institution in the world uses an outdated 1830s standard for fitness that was never intended for medical use, that is based on the size of African pygmies as its standard, has no mechanism to account for body fat over muscle, and is reliant on being at the perfect water weight for a single day or else you fail an assessment.

Consider, anon. If their entry system is that absolutely fucked beyond and recognition of modern medical science, how do you think their actual fitness regime is? To find out, look at the number of veterans who need replacement knees in their 40s.

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>>75476329
Satiety is different from being physically full. Satiety is when your brain tells you that you aren't hungry. Fullness is when your stomach tells you that you can't cram any more stuff into it.

The reason you're experiencing a high degree of satiety is because fasting puts you in fat burning mode. If you stay low carb when you eat the compounding satiety effect is extremely powerful. If you eat too many carbs your hunger will return.

Congratulations it sounds like you've made it. If you continue to apply this knowledge in the future you won't have to count or track your food anymore. Just stay low-carb.

>>75476329
It's post not clarity for food it just be like that

>>75476363
I do low carb, my worst hunger spikes at around noon and then into the afternoon

I exercise in the late afternoon/early evening, sometimes I don't even feel hungry after that (I know exercise supresses hunger for a short while after)

One thing I do fear though is me being forced to do OMAD for the rest of my life, if my fat ass stomach really only fills "full" when I almost physically feel like I can't breathe properly.

Like im stuffing myself with clean foods and I am fucking DONE when I've eaten 2k calories in one sitting. I guess the volume does matter too

Ate 550 cals yesterday, 650 today. Don't eat anything till after midnight then have 600-700 grams of oven fries. Would be really great if I managed to lose the last 2.5-3kg I want to lose before my trip in 2 and a half weeks but I doubt it's gonna happen even with this level of suffering.

>>75476384
Volume doesn't matter. You can skip vegetables if you don't like them.

If you eat zero carb food you can eat any time you're hungry without worrying about it. I eat 2-3 times a day usually. Never tallied the calories in my meals because it's totally irrelevant.

Even if you eat something carby that makes you hungry you will notice the increased hunger with experience. Just knowing what is going on makes everything very easy. I eat carbs as a treat occasionally which causes increased hunger. I just wait until the elevated hunger passes and continue eating zero carb.

>>75476293
>three thirds through
so all of it?

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>>75476407
>suffering
You don't have to suffer. Just quit carbs.

>>75476417
I hope your mother dies of aids

>>75476410
I love vegetables I would never skip them. I am not a keto schizo.

I do value low carb and OMAD, seems to be working really well and can 100% recommend it.

>>75476416
that and two thirds also

>start lifting and dieting in august
>getting consistent noobie gains for all my lifts
>OHP stalled starting November 4th
>still can't manage to get it to progress
Is it over?

>>75476421
>I am not a keto schizo.
>I do value low carb
I have bad news for you.

>>75476422
No it's not over.
What does your lifting program look like? Where does OHP fit into it, what is the set/rep and progression scheme you are using?

>>75476425
There's a difference between avoiding bread and pasta and putting butter in your coffee and sperging out over fruit.

>>75476433
Enjoy your heart attack, ketoschizo.

>>75476447
If i'm a ketoschizo they need to throw me out because I am not close to being in ketosis

>>75476453
If you are low-carb you're a ketoschizo.

If you are high-carb but avoid seed oil you are also a ketoschizo.

>>75476453
Don't mind that anon. Most reasonable people accept that LCHF diets are valid options for losing weight; there is plenty of research to back it up. People just dislike the main ketoschizo because he spams every thread and acts like LCHF is the only option to lose weight. So they sometimes lump everyone who cuts carbs in with him. Honestly, he does more damage to his cause here than he has ever helped it.

>>75476479
I mean it's pretty clear he's a ketoschizo trying to move the goal post.

Again I'd argue there's a difference between eating fruits and vegetables while avoiding pasta and bread, and straight up putting knobs of butter into your coffee and doing strip tests each day.

You wanna know how to know if someone is into keto? He'll fucking tell you.

>>75476498
What do you mean by moving the goalposts? What do you think "ketoschizo" means?

>>75476421
I despise keto. But this is a reasonable pro-keto take
>>75476419
This is a reasonable anti-keto take

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>>75476479
What other options are there to lose weight?

>>75469941
I gained another 10kg this year

>>75476517
You're obese. Your feelings don't matter.

please please please go make your own keto thread instead of shitting up this place every single fucking day

>>75476526
This is the keto thread.

Go make a weight gain thread if you want to discuss eating carbs.

>>75476529
Huh? Im not doing keto and I'm losing weight

>>75476545
>>75476545
>>75476545
New thread

I'm not gay

>>75475892
Tried that. Didn't work.

>>75476507
ketoschizo plus-ultra

>280lbs to 240 in a year
>240 to 210 in 2 years
Eating less is way too hard.

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>>75476015
Yeah, I'm 5'0 so at 128lbs you're BMI 25, which isn't expulsion worthy if you're enlisted. Are you kidding? You can ENLIST while obese. It's even easier to stay enlisted and get fat. The air force allows females to have a body fat of thirty six (36) percent.

>>75476520
You ever going to hit abs or chest?

>>75476709
Sedentary means sedentary.

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now for some deserved dinner