What happens if you are lifting and meeting your protein needs per day but you have a calorie deficit? Can you still grow muscle like this
>>75472272I feel like for most people, they should check what’s good on them. Not everyone looks good with a muscular body as the same as not everyone looks their best being just thin, you know?
Bump. Was wondering this too
>>75472272It's going to be harder/slower to gain weight and muscle as your body is going to have to allocate some energy from protein via glucneogenesis in order to resupply (not rebuild) muscles.
>>75472713And just to add, you'll probably feel less energized or ready to attack a workout
>>75472272If you're eating carbs you'll lose muscle.If you're on zero carb your body will use stored fat for energy.
>>75472272NoExtra muscle mass takes even more energy Your body sees the lack of available energy and refuses to grow muscle Most people who think they're gaining lean mass while cutting are actually just getting more defined, like when the big Bois compete leaner, they look bigger
>>75472727Kek When you extrapolate this logic at all, you can see the straight retardation
>>75472272Yes. It can still happen. You can get stronger on a cut.
>>75472272You plateau and eventually start losing lean mass when you get get lean enough that it's easier to cannibalize your lean mass than get at the fat you have left. Also your test, hgh, igf-1 fall off so it becomes almost impossible to grow anything regardless of protein intake.
>>75472753>when you get get lean enough At like 8% bodyfat and below if you're not roiding.
>>75472719>attack a workoutLmao what? Bro you "attack" your workouts? What're you, a lion? A tiger? A bear? OH MY! LOL! Bro yeah let's "attack" this workout, I'll go grab my rifle! HAHA!!! Let me go get my numb chucks bro! So I can "attack" my workout! ROFL!!!! Imma hide in the bushes and stalk my workout before it "attack" it. LMFAOMGGGGG
>>75472776POST BODY NIGGER
>>75472767Yeah if your ffmi is already a body builder level. For most people that's going to happen around 11-14% depending on their ratio of visceral to subcutaneous fat.
>>75472781Why? So you can "attack" my physique? LMAOOOOOOO
>>75472739Explain.
>>75472272Yes, that's really what recomp is
>>75472272You can but it gets harder and harder the leaner you are. If you are 25%, 30% or 35%+ you can lose fat while gaining muscle fairly easily. But as you start approaching 15% or below it becomes unlikely you will gain muscle and the best you can hope for is not losing muscle or too much muscle.
What happens if you "dirty" bulk on like rice and chicken thighs and lift very high volume, then cut after hitting like 250lbs by only drinking water protein shakes to hit your required protein + psyllium husk + multi for like a month while still doing 2 sets of each lift you were doing before but at the same weight?
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>>75473070yeah my bad for the run on, I'm retarded. The question still stands tho.
>>75473049You drop a lot of fat. Then you start to run into issues with your thyroid, leptin and insulin levels, most of your hormones and the fat burning slows down and lean mass loss speeds up. What you're describing is a protein-sparing modified fast. They work great but they're usually used in like a 2 weeks on - 2 weeks at maintence fashion because it doesn't run into the wall as hard hormonally. But yes maintence volume. With the caveat that intensity is going up since maintaining intensity helps preserve strength and muscle mass and is harder to recover after the cut than just work capacity.If you're fatter than normal you can probably do the first round until you run into that wall rather than trying to anticipate it but really either approach is fine. If you want to read more about check out lyle mcdonald since he's a lot more coherent about it than all the stupid women (who are still fat) that latched onto it a couple years ago.
>>75472272yes you can, I'm living proof. It's doable, but you will quickly reach a point where adding weight to the bar requires lots more time at that weight. But that's ok, because your muscle will continue growing, as long as you give it a pump each workout. Eat lots of protein and train to failure. If you feel like you've got a set in you, do it. If you feel like you've got two sets in you, do it. Just be careful not to overtrain. If you think you've got a set in you, but you can't do more than 5 reps, don't bother.
>>75472272Frog needs a good moisturiser.
>>75472727None of this is true BTW. The current body of science has shown no connection between Keto and advanced weight loss.
>>75472272Protein is the materials You need extra energy as the labor to build with the materials Your body can use some body fat for fuel, but this might create a bottleneck in terms of recovery.
>>75473666keto tards drop 10 pounds of water weight in a week are amazed preach about it on their favorite mongolian basket weaving forum, the weight loss slows down and they are shocked keto was supposed to fix everything, they probably cry and shit their pants cause they tend to have diarrhea and then binge eat 7000 calories of sweets and what not and then gain all the water weight back in like 3 days.
>>75473682Keto makes you feel full and it does make your body only consume fat for energy... but it's the fat that you eat, not body fat. Keto has no impact on increasing body fat loss.
That's called "Recomping".It's possible, but very difficult unless you're fairly obese. Many people can do this if they're out of shape and never exercise, but they reach a point where they don't have enough excess fat.If you're morbidly obese, you can lose 10lbs a month for months on-end all the while gaining a significant amount of muscle.If you're already less than 20% body fat, it gets much closer to impossible.
>>75473049You'd be fucking miserable in both phases and make no more progress than just doing it in a sensible way. I don't understand why the meme that "dirty bulking" does anything just doesn't go away. You can't just force feed muscle growth. You could simply add a protein shake and a sandwich to your normal diet, or 2 shakes and 2 sandwiches and get 99% of the muscle gains of your dirty bulk, and without having to cut an extra 30 pounds of fat. And trust me you do NOT want to be going on a year long cut, that shit fucking sucks.
>>75472272>>75472272If you’re still at a considerable body fat it’s possible. Anywhere above like 18%, in my experience of recomp, you can build muscle and lose fat while in a cut in a reasonable amount of time. You need to keep your diet high protein obviously. Anyways, below that BF% it becomes very difficult and you’ll need to lean bulk in order to build more muscle efficiently. To further clarify, you can still build muscle despite that and continue cutting, but it will get slower and slower the lower your BF gets since there’s less fat for your body to burn as fuel.
>>75473698idk what it does i just know it doesn't work
>>75472272LOL look at that funny little frog butt!
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>>75473682I have no dog in this fight, but honestly the hysterical tone of this post makes me think you are fat or a woman. Post body.
