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>masturbate before sleeping
>lower testosterone just before the most important part of muscle building

>masturbate after sleeping
>too tired for workout later

So what's the optimal time to masturbate if I want to maximize my gains?
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>>75478088
The optimal way is to stop being an autist who obsesses over irrelevant shit. Fluctuations in natty test levels have literally zero effect on gains. You're gonna build as much muscle on 600ng/dl as you will on 900. You need to get into the supraphysiological range to see a difference.
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>>75478088
I hate poor people
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>>75478088
>So what's the optimal time to masturbate if I want to maximize my gains?
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Before sex so that you last longer.
Or you masturbate after your workout to maximize your resting phase of muscle building
Or you just masturbate when ever and stop worrying about a 2% drop in your testosterone for an hour at most.
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>>75478088
Nah the aromatization will end before your first rem cycle. The reason not to do it before bed is because you can become internally dependant on that post orgasm chemical wave to sleep. Because almost anything is habit forming with sleep for some stupid reason.

Ideally sometime in the afternoon. This is just a bs theory of mine but I think around sunset is probably the best and might be why we tend to find shots taken around the "golden hour" in natrual lighting more arousing than shots taken in other lighting.
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>>75478088
>masturbate
fuck off Jeet, you don't masturbate.
You have sex or you don't touch your penis at all.
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I've seen a frogposter say that most muscle building happens while you're awake though
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>>75478143
Then what's the point of sleeping well? I've heard everyone say that you must have good sleep, eat well, and work out hard. If you don't have any of those, you won't make gains.
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>>75478154
It will keep the rest of your body well-regulated. Your body needs to be in good condition for it to decide to use a bunch of energy to build muscle.
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>>75478113
>The reason not to do it before bed is because you can become internally dependant on that post orgasm chemical wave to sleep.
Lmao literally me i havent been able to sleep w/o it for like 6 years
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>>75478088
>>too tired for workout later
if you get too tired after masturbating once, you have some actual health issues. get your test levels checked
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>>75478088
masturbate both times, and then another two times in the middle of the day
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>>75478088
>>masturbate after sleeping
>>too tired for workout later
train later in the day then
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>>75478088
In a crowded area at a busy time
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>>75478110
>Before sex so that you last longer.
Then you lose like 70% of the passion and lust for the person you're having sex with.
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>>75478088
Easy fix: eat two boiled eggs after wacking off before bed. I have lotion, tissues and a bowl of eggs, that's my bed time routine
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>>75479862
Yeah and if you nut in 11 seconds they lose 100% of the lust and passion for you
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>>75478088
Both of these things only happen if you reach orgasm. The solution is obvious.
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>>75478088
>just before the most important part of muscle building
that would actually be REM sleep which happens hours after you actually fall asleep, so your point is debunked using your own logic.
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>>75479884
Not my problem anymore
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>>75478088
Quit being retarded. Jerk off 5 times a day.
>>75479884
>Not being able to nut multiple times in a row
ngmi
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>>75479884
they will 100% lose 100% of the lust and passion for you anyways(if any existed at all in the first place)
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>>75478239
Are you addicted to masturbating?
We can help you beat it!
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>>75478113
>>75478088
After lunch, the fap & nap is perfect for recharging before evening training.
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>>75478097
fpbp
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>>75478088
Stop jerking it and start fucking your neighbors girlfriend



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