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>>75549363If i do 0.25mg EOD adex for 12 weeksCan i skip PCT (nolva)?
If you bump this thread you are a communist
my skin feels like it's burning. normal?
How do I lower psa?
Dumb question maybe but do bpc and tb inhibit muscle growth. I had heard that bpc in particular was anti-inflammatory. I wouldn't want to lose gains. I would pause the cycle if I needed to. Have to get this shoulder straightened out.
Fat cunt here looking to pin test and use dbol. Why is Reddit /r/Testosterone trying to insist it is wrong to do this? Apparently it'll cause me to get moobs?
>>75549363Just got my bloodwork and estradiol is 55. Is that high enough that I should be addressing it? Would .5 mg of anastrozole twice a week be overkill? I don’t want to totally tank my est
>>75550175do your thing King, ignore the reddit retards
>>75550175>>75550204Reddit only recommends 10mg of lady anavar 2x a day. Crabs in a bucket. Yeah d-bol is the strength go-to. It was an essential part of every golden age BB stack. Running it with a test base is smart. Don't forget hcg. Make sure to post pictures.
>>75550204>>75550218Cheers anons. Do I need an aromatase inhibitor? Any recommendations?
>>75550364I'm pretty fat, 190cm 110-120kg at least 20% bf.I'm on 500 test and 300 primo was enough to keep my e2 in the normal range.I tried arimidex once and it crashed my e2 even at quarter pill a week, that shit was too strong for me.But you should still take buy some aromatase inhibitor and keep it in hand just in case.The best thing to do is get bloodwork when your test has peaked to measure your e2. If you can't do that then you just have to look for signs of high e2 to determine if you need to lower it or not. People react differently.
Kind of /fraud/ related. It's no secret bjj is dirty, look at Gordon Ryan. Well this 2nd tier guy, Mikey musumeci, whose claim to fame is being natty and getting decisions partnered with the UFC to have clean submission wrestling. Inaugural card was yesterday and it sucked. Mikey once again butt scooted his way to a decision. No way UFC is going to keep going with that crap. They already replay most of the major tournaments and competitions.
>>75550388I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about
>>75550175why dbol, when you can run NPP
>>75550379Do you have thoughts on my situation? >>75550203My bloodwork was taken right before pinning, so I suppose 55 is where I’m at in the trough rather than the peak—meaning it must get even higher. That said, I’m not actually noticing any estrogenic effects…advice?
>>75550420Would I get jacked on that?
>>75550175Just add eq
>>75550404Clean submission wrestling card was fucking awful. Long live frauding in grappling.
>>75549366Damn nigga, at least get a haircut.
>>75550438nandrolone is superior to dbol in every way
I have 6 weeks to get in crazy shape for my 6 months Pattaya, Thailand trip where I will be continuing roiding, lifting, fucking hoes and what not.What kind of cycle would you recommend? I have Test, Mast, Var, Cialis at home. What dosages?
>>75550528Mast is a potent antiestrogen, so it depends on the individual, but I'd start with 400mg test/300mg mast/40-50mg var
>>75550582Sounds good, thanks anon.
>>75550175If you’re trying to lose fat what you want is:1. testosterone2. dry AAS (primo, EQ, masteron)3. low dose Anavar (mildly liver toxic so only use it the last month or two of cutting)4. Appetite suppressant (semaglutide, tirzepatide, etc.) because fatties don’t have willpower or the intelligence to eat the right amount of caloriesDbol is a watery AAS that will cause you to puff up like a water balloon. It’s not suited for cutting, works way better for building muscle during a bulk. DESU it’s all unnecessary anyway, the body is happy to burn fat and preserve muscle when you’re an obeast. Cutting stacks are for muscular and skinny people.
>>75550423NTA, but 55 is alright, even higher would be alright if you dont have any sides. The ratio from estrogen to testosterone is important, and estrogen is cardio protective after all. Don't try to fit in a range taking AI just for the sake of being in range. That range is made for the normies out there, as an enhanced bodybuilder you can well be above that range and still have 0 sides and be healthy.
Whats the difference between doing a cycle and blasting/cruisingWhich one /fraud/ suggest? Or is there no difference??
>>75550637Bland and cruise or blast and blast. I like blast, blast, cruise personally. But whatever you do don’t pct.
>>75550637Cycle: do 15-25 weeks of steroids then PCTPros: safer, lower risk of long term damage to testiclesCons: PCT sucks, can only do it at most once per year, 2 steps forward and 1 step back (you lose muscle during PCT/post PCT)Blast and cruise: high dose of steroids (like in a cycle), then a TRT dose of testosterone, repeatPros: no PCT, more gains, can blast 2+ times per yearCons: every week you’re on exogenous hormones, your balls accrue a little bit of damage. Do this for long enough and you’re going to require TRT for life or live with lower testosterone than you had before
>>75550077It's a good question, wondered this awhile back and went down the rabbit hole on itshort answer is no, bpc157 and tb500 do not inhibit muscle growth but actually may enhance itprobably why they are banned by usada and wadaWhat I read is that bpc157 and tb500 target chronic inflammation specifically and enhance repair process of all inflammation, which does not impair muscle growth unlike NSAIDs which inhibit particular enzymes and reduces the response to the acute inflammation of lifting thus the theory that heavy NSAID usage may be detrimental
>>75550528I'm cutting on 200 test, 400 mast, 100 deca, 4mg retatrutide weekly and 40mg anavar dailyfun times, highly recommend but probably overkill
>>75550602Cheers anon. I'll probably go down this route to avoid water retention.
Did pre-cycle blood tests. E2 at <9 pg/mL (reference range on the test is 0-62), SHBG at 9 nmol/L (reference range on the test is 9-60), is this something to be concerned over? I'm kinda confused that there are so many different reference ranges that you can find online to consult. Also the fact E2 regulating is something you do after starting to pin, I find it strange that it's this low beforehand.
>>75550685Good stuff. Thanks for the info. I just reconstituted 20mg of tb500. I love the stuff, especially as I get older. I hope I don't get a psychological addiction. Bpc I haven't had much success with but it's cheap so I run it with tb sometimes. At some point I'm going to need surgery. I'll probably double dose with 3-4iu of gh on top post surgery. Heard good things about ghk too. Pic related. My shoulder literally feels like there's a burning coal inside of it from mogging a zoomer on the bench on Tuesday. He was probably fine the next day.
>>75550652For example, week 1 high dosage week 2 high dosage week 3 smaller dosage and repeat forever?
>>75550528>>75550528What is the point of getting in shape to fuck thailand whores? You aren't going to impress them with your serratus, they already know you are a sex tourist loser in your homeland.
>>75549363Ivan drago actor did a roidHe has cancer now
>>75551327everyone has cancerwhy do you think Bayer and Monsanto merged
>>75551257I fuck tourist girls in Thailand, like chinese mostly.
>>75550626Thank you, that makes sense
Lets suppose for the sake of it I want to mask my use of steroids from a toxicology exam at a work application. How would I do it to appear with my blood clean?
>>75552229I’m not a doctor, but my understanding is that a typical employment drug test would not indicate steroid use. It looks for metabolites of things like narcotics. Testing for, e.g., testosterone injections is accomplished by looking specifically at T levels in the blood (appearing beyond normal human levels). If you are only peeing in a cup, I don’t think checking T levels is even possible.
I am losing my mind, /fit/125mg test e, 125mg eq, 75mg deca E3DI CANT STOP FUCKING JERKING OFFThree times today and it's not even 2pm. This is affecting my work. I jerked off three times yesterday AND had sex.Gains are decent tho
>>75550652> Do this for long enough and you’re going to require TRT for life or live with lower testosterone than you had beforeJust want to remind everyone that there is actually zero clinical or even reliable anecdotal evidence for this. Pete Rubish blasted for ten years straight, massive doses of tren and nand, and came off cold turkey and is back at 550 ng/dl after two years. Even natties have lower test levels decade to decade.
>outside temp drops by like 10 degrees over 2 weeks>scalp gets dry real fast>am on Accutane and notice shedding a few days ago>bought some shitty oil based moisturizer, but it hasn't helped>did more research apparently the "official" stance is that the hair comes back, but actual experiences from forums and reddit is that it will always be thinner>even if you stop right away once you notice shedding it will continue for at least another month and will take at least 3 months for hair to grow back even with hair treatmentsIn less than a week I already have a noticeable bald spot. I'm going to fucking kill myself.>threw away the remaining accutane even though I had 2 months remaining>bought minox and going to buy some biotinAnyone have any advice to speed the regrowth process up?
>>75552299make the most of it because unless you use TRT you'll be a eunuch for life in a couple years time
>>75552299Nice, I’m about to start a nice moderate cycle like this but with npp instead. I’ll probably go 300 test 300 npp 200 eq
>>75552341Get out my containment thread natty
>>75552299it'll settle down in a couple weeks, most likelythen you'll miss itfuck as much as you can while it lasts
>>75552448>fuck as much as you can while it lastsno can do, I have a 7 month old baby.>>75552345why NPP instead of deca? EQ is already a long ester, may as well keep a lower injection frequency. That was my thinking anyway
>>75552299what's the point of running a meme cycle like this? You won't get big on this, it looks like some boomer trt while fucking up your health markers instead of stand alone test.
>>75552545What's wrong with running over 750mg of gear per week?Test as a baseEQ for endurance (MMA/BJJ training) and estrogen managemnetDeca for jointsHonestly I've been loving this cycle, no sides, no BP issues, no acne, no hairloss.Sure if you're a pro and you need 1g+ /week to grow, it might not do much for you.But I'm 210lbs at 6'1", this is plenty of gear for me.
>>75552286Its both to a military service application and other is for a sport competition
>>75552497Three reasons:1) I plan on running the npp for the first 10 or 12 weeks and then running just test and eq for another 10 to 14 weeks.2) I do daily injections regardless of ester because I get less sides (mainly acne and water retention) 3) I have like 15 vials of npp and no decaI may run sust as my test ester though since it has short and long esters and should work well with both eq and npp.
Why all the cycle protocols I seethey only tell me to use test enanthate or cypionate but never test propionate?
>>75549363Any potential negative effects of simultaneous taking exogenous testosterone, finasteride & an AI at the same time for a prolong period of time?
>>75552868What is AI?
>>75552879Aromatase InhibitorIt prevents testosterone from converting into estrogen.
Thinking about doing low dose EQ and primo. Why is this never recommended, people always say to take a higher dose of just primo or just EQ instead
>>75550582this advice is just to stop him from doing anything stupid right? you dont actually think hes going to get in any better shape with 6 weeks of reddit doses do you?
Going to a wedding tomorrow. Staying overnight at the Hilton for the after party. My goal is to bang my wife so hard she tells me to go find another girl to give her some rest. How should I prep? I took my normal test/primo/eq blast today. I'm also going to take 50mg proviron today and tomorrow along with 20mg cialis today and tomorrow. I was thinking of doing something dumb like pinning 100mg of test c tomorrow and maybe like 20mg of eq to counteract the e2.
>>75550218I see no reason to run dbol with a test base. What's the thinking behind doing so. Both would raise estrogen requiring an AI and increasing likelyhood of shutdown. Currently running a mere 20mg dbol only cycle and I do not intend on PCT when I finish my 6 week cycle.
>>75552889You mean SERMS? Like enclo and tamox?
>>75552926Test c won’t kick in fast enough, do you have prop? If you have mast p or anavar then take some of one of those. Otherwise what you’ve got is fine, just not optimal.
>>75552941>>75552879Why the fuck are you in this thread retard? Just fucking google “aromatase inhibitor” if you want to know about them.
>>75552926This is some faggot tier larp
>>75552968kek every single post in this thread that mentions doses is from fat fucks that dont even lift
Any permablast chads wanna share experiences
>>75552929Anyone have a response to why it's bad to be a dbol gangster? Redditfags are no help either, they all say >you need test broexcept dbol is the test
i look at myself from the front and it looks finei look from the side and I look fat like a barrel
>>75553010Probably your ribcage
>>75549363How do I become big soviet muscle
>>75553002i ran out of test like a month ago and ive been on dbol only thinking maybe the dbol only people are onto something, its been the worst month of my life
>>75553070Oh, what was ur test dose and now dbol dose? Maybe you've crashed your T or your estrogen is too high. I pinned a few years ago and now trying dbol only instead, 2 weeks in and not feeling any sides.
>>75552952The thought about taking too long had crossed my mind. This is all kind of last minute. I actually have var. I've never ran it before, was going to run it this spring. Does that really boost libido? I heard the opposite. I'll probably pass because I'm already taking primo and popping some proviron. SHBG is already going to be single digits. >>75552975>Who includes relevant information in their posts? Gay lol. You're retarded.
>>75553148Keep it simple
>>75553148Var makes me horny as fuck. It’s a dht, why wouldn’t it? I assume that anyone who’s roiding and doesn’t have super high libido on basically any compound has somehow fucked up their e2.
>>75550077Jesus Christ. I reached my limit
>>75553148Yeah, I love black pussy
>>75553275it's okay my songet your e2 checked, take some AI as neededpray for the Lord's mercy and forgiveness before bed
>>75552958Why the fuck you stopped sucking cock just to talk shit in this thread. Go get aids and fuck off
>>75553204We're already fucking 3x a night but we've been talking about how this one is going to be even bigger, so I'm looking to go next level and I didn't plan ahead at all. Good to know about anavar. Only half joking about trying to bang a friend. Wife doesn't seem 100% opposed. >>75553281Me too
>>75550175because you'll just get fatteryou think you wont but you will
>>75550077>lose muh gainzzzzgo away natty
>>75550388wrong thread, karatefag
>>75553285Listen, natties can lurk. I have no problem with that. You can even ask questions as long as they’re not retarded. But seriously, the guy told you that AI means aromatase inhibitor. If he meant SERMs he would have fucking said that. So fuck off until you can post in the thread without shitting it up with inane questions or, better yet, kill yourself.
>>75553336Good luck man, my wife has hinted about it a couple times but whenever it cones down to it she acts like she never brought it up.
>>75552868lots of shit can go wrong, retard
>>75552879>What is AI?/fraud/, the thread
>>75550528>>75550582Flo?
>>75553336lol you are a fat faggot taking 100mg a week of every steroid that doesn't even do anything >>75553632hes lurking so he can be the next fat faggot to hop on 100mg of test and 100mg of primo a week, can someone thats on a placebo dose of five different drugs explain where they got the impression that it was a good idea? im genuinely curious how there came to be multiple people in this thread that are on low enough doses of drugs as to not be taking enough to gain any benefit from them relevant to the context of /fit/
>>75550602Water retention doesn’t matter for fat people that won’t look good regardless of whether they’re bloated or not. The only thing that matters is how much muscle and fat he has after the cycle/blast.
>>75554471Lol he mad
>>75549363I got my hands on some anavar. I was thinking of running 20mg for six weeks to see how it feels before trying to hit the big leagues. What’s the consensus on doing this? I’m mainly doing this to see if I’ll have reactions and if my shit will crash or I’ll get crazy acne. Will it be harmful in any way?
>>75550723That's too much stuff. The way has been paved little fatty. >cruise dose test + glp-1 + 4iu hgh>Considering using ipa+tesa instead of hgh because you probably have visceral fat build upThe test keeps you from lowering test during your extreme cut. Hgh helps preserve muscle, aids in fat burning, helps you sleep, and makes your skin smoother. The glp-1 obviously keeps you from eating. If you want to fuck around and blast, who am I to say no, but the above will make you look better, faster.
>>75554471I’m running a lower dose cycle next time because I’m also training for a cycling race and just want the increased recovery. I feel like that’s a totally valid cycle and I’ll still be using 900 mg of anabolics a week
I made a post about a nagging injury I’m dealing with >>75553815 . Is this worth throwing in 100 npp for? I’ve never ran nand would it actually help?
>>75555030It’ll mask the pain but once you stop it’ll come back. If you have the money, look into tb500, hgh, and bpc.
>>75552868Yes, from the ai. EQ is safer
>>75555108this is a caveat I’ve heard repeated. My question is it going to increase or decrease injury risk while on it? I assume it helps via water retention or sinovial fluid and not actually dulling pain, so if training doesnt hurt on it you wouldn’t assume it’s actually getting worse without being able to feel it, right?
>>75555012Don't listen to the larpers. They are literally fags and they get pissed when someone makes any other post other than bro I just slammed a gram of deca. Feel the pip. Fucking love blasting. If you want to run a low dose, run a low dose. If you like the results then stick with it. That's all that really matters in the end. I do get annoyed when people want to endlessly talk what ifs on non-standard cycles and debate 100mg up or down on a compound. Just run it and report back.
>>75555181Anecdotally, yes it will continue to get worse while you are on nand and probably faster since you feel like it’s not injured. I’m not aware of any studies on this but I’m sure there are some out there because they prescribe deca to elderly women for joint pain relief and I’m guessing they don’t do that off label but who knows.
>>75554892what's with these niggers and their anavar only female cycles? worse than trtfags at least trtfags pin their asscheeks with babby testJust stick with creatine, dyelnattyfag
>>75555246I’ll say that one of the biggest lessons I’ve learned from doing a few blasts is that you don’t have to be so rigid with dosing. If I start with only 300 npp and I’m not seeing the results I want after a few weeks I can just add more. I will say that I personally think that guys running cycles of, for example, 150 test 150 primo as a “blast” are basically wasting their time but as long as they like it I don’t really care. I do wish they would stop pushing the meme that 500 mg of test is a heavy cycle though. It feels like if you do moderate cycles you get shit on by the micro and hyperdosers constantly.
>>75555247shit.
>>75549363>there's no way that's roidedVs>yeah how do you like me now dad I turned into a hormonally divergent nazi animal nuts pills chimera do you really think Americans invented that.
>>75555381How do you get rest weeks or months in without losing like 10lbs of muscle
>>75554892Harmful? Very unlikely especially at a lowish dose of 20mgs a day. You'll probably notice better workouts, better pumps and some amount of muscle gain (but not that much). Depending on your bodyfat level you will definitely look better at equivalent bodyfat levels. You probably won't need to do any PCT at all
>>75554892>What’s the consensus on doing this? I’m mainly doing this to see if I’ll have reactions and if my shit will crash or I’ll get crazy acne. >>Will it be harmful in any way?Don't do an anavar only cycle.Anavar suppresses natural testosterone so you're gonna need to PCT and experience low-E side effects. Gonna be a net-loss for just about everything so don't do it.Litmus test for steroid use is whether you're scared of a needle. If yes, don't try to dip your toe in the water.
>>75555502>Anavar suppresses natural testosterone so you're gonna need to PCT and experience low-E side effects. Gonna be a net-loss for just about everything so don't do it.Nah, especially at that dose and that duration he probably will only temporarily half his test. I've done an anavar cycle only a couple of times when I started out and I did get some result for it. I did PCT the first time I ended the cycle and next 2 times I didn't and noticed no difference.
>>75555108deca heals joint injuries just not as well as bpc157 and tb500it's a proven factstop posting your boomer nonsense about your permanent tendonitis or whatever it is
>>75555549>deca heals joint injuries>it's a proven factno
>>75555455I blast and cruise and I run hgh year round. Every fifth week is a deload/rest week but it’s a little more complicated than that because I train for cycling year round and run my lifting program inversely with that. I’m not sure what your question even has to do with my post though desu.Also,> Rest monthslol, lmao even
>>75555549I don’t have any tendon or ligament problems and have never used deca for that purpose. Just pointing out that anecdotally it doesn’t heal injuries, just masks them. >but muh collagen depositionThere are different collagen types and the ones that aas promote synthesis of are not optimal for joint health.
I have been on picrel (the injection not the girl) and got some good info about it. I am few weeks away from my second loading shot. I haven't felt anything yet except deep resentment that this drug is a go to for all trannies. Not a trans btwWhat, if anything, would you suggest to do to maximize results? Should I expect gains in muscle and motivation? Should I ask for something else?Sorry if I am being dumb. I have been trying to learn as much as I can since being prescribed it.
>>75556029Why are you taking test u, trt? It takes like six months or something to reach steady levels, although depending on what your loading dose is I’m sure it’ll be a lot faster. Shorter esters will kick in faster and be easier to adjust. I’ve never used nebido but the one guy that I know who used it for trt ended up switching to test p because he felt worse than before he started taking it.
>>75556089I am in south america and never thought of this before being suggested it by a doctor
>>75549363Thr roids are nuking my hair
>>75556450Are you on finasteride?
>>75556461>[mogs tranny-castrator-ide]
>>75555728>>75555562deca healed my shoulder it's good stuff, no masking happened
>>75555562>>75555728what if you never get off it :^)
>>75557032Cringe>>75557052Based
>>75557134maybe it doesn't work if you're a nigger
>>75557329it surely works for the mental apparently!
What should i use to prevent hair loss, im just pinning 250 mg test e every 5 days. i know about fin, monoxidil, and ru58841 but some people say finasteride can actually CAUSE hair loss.
>>75555358>>75555495>>75555502I hear so many conflicting things about roids. I’ve seen a lot of people recommend just an anavar cycle, and say it won’t crash anything. And others who say it will.
>>75557584Dutasteride?
>>75557682Just start pinning and quit being afraid of needles. Stop being weak.
>>75556089If you just double the first couple of doses you’ll get stable levels right away.
Cutting on 500mg Test E(pinning 2x week 250mg per injection) and 200mg Tren A EOD 50mg per injetion. Note that i just started tren a week ago and already i can see improvements on my bf%, also have been getting compliments at work that i am shredded. What do you think bois?
>>75557869I’m not afraid of needles, I pinned glp1 for like two months to lose weight. I’m more just worried about side effects like bitch tits and mood swings, I don’t fully understand the science behind using an AI
>>75556089Test for trt? Did you mean test c?I've often wondered about using test u for cruise. On cruise I pin test c e3.5d for even levels but I'd much rather take 1 pin every other week.
>>75558614>I don’t fully understand the science behind using an AIAll that tells us is you've never even bothered to Google aromatase or anything like that. Congrats on being a dumb ass and proudly broadcasting it to the world
>>75558614then read the reddit steroids wikiyou're ignorant and people here will be mean for it, they won't spoonfeed you. It just takes some reading.
>>75558614youre a fat faggot lol
>start cycle>traps double in size overnight?
>>75558745>>traps double in size overnightprotip: do not train traps or do trap dominant lifts like deadlifts while on cycle unless you want to look retarded
>>75558648Nah, he just bought a bunch of ugl test p and takes 15 mg a day. He thinks it’s closer to how you normally make rest when natty.
>>75558916>15 mg a day>He thinks it’s closer to how you normally make rest when natty.He knows that the human body only makes somewhere between 5 and 10mg of testosterone per day rightAlso isn't natural testosterone highest at night and steadily decreases throughout the day?
>>75558931Look, this isn’t some ruse. I’m just telling you what my buddy does. He was depressed as fuck before and now he’s not so I don’t give a shit what he does.
>>75557682
>>75558389If it aint broke don't fix it. Slay, xister!
>>75559079Ouch. My pride
>>75549363Quick question Im on cycle week 4And im planning to stopShould i do pct or no?
>>75552958>>75558650As an Aromatase Inhibitor language model, artificial intelligence drugs can be carefully administered by reproductive endocrinologists to manage certain conditions involving excess estrogen levels such as some cancers, obesity, and hypogonadism. The decision to use artificial intelligence drugs should be carefully made by a physician after performing several hormone level tests.
>>75559475No. You deserve to suffer for your weakness
>>75558968>guy is depressed>starts doing meth>he’s no longer depressed :) he’s doing it right!
>>75559596Not bait but Why? I stopped because i had to leave my city for emergency Cannot brought the gear
>>75559475Why are you stopping? Sides? Other?I wouldn't pct. You haven't been in total suppression long. It might be unpleasant but not unbearable for a few weeks. Better to gut it.out than take additional substances, especially if you're done for good.
>>75559622I'm just being a dick. Yes, you need to pct. Your natural testosterone production is already shut down. The only reason to pct is to alleviate the side effects of no testosterone, and sorta helps your body restart it's natural production. You can 100% not do pct (people have done it for decades). Just you'll be lethargic, moody, have brain fog, no motivation, erectile disfunction, and whatever other low t / high e2 effects out there. That can last for 3-6 weeks, or years. 99.999% it's the former, but sometimes people are unlucky and have ongoing issues. Hopefully you were aware of that before getting into this though
Are those testosterone mix of 400mg per 1ml at 30$ legit?
>>75559600Honestly, as long as he isn’t fucking up his life or health in the process, yeah it’s all good. Also, 15 mg of test p is around 10 or 12 mg of natural test because of the ester weight. His serum levels are like 800 ng/dl so I really doubt he’s hurting himself. What’s your problem about this? I’m running 200 mg of test c as a cruise. There’s a guy itt who runs 500 mg as “trt” (lol). My buddy is on the reasonable side of things. I hope you’re not a natty larper who’s trying to catastrophize roid use.
>>75559771They’re legit but be ready for a little surprise the first time you inject it.
>>75559803people are idiots and people like you are too stupid to realize that supraphysiological doses (even when they're not that big) do long term damage and shorten lifespanstop blogging about how you and your friends are stupid niggers doing 'TRT+'
>>75557682Just watch this video https://youtu.be/JykBPZyXF8g?si=NwOLidkMkgZOgh0X&t=882
>>75560010his blood tests are within the reference range, hes not on trt+, trt plus would be like 250 test 200 mast, youre just a fat faggot
Is there some compound that I can add to my stack specifically for vascularity? I’ve just wrapped a cycle of anavar/winstrol with my regular test but really want to get those huge vein pops, I think tren is the usual recommendation but I only do this shit to look good in porn so my dick not working isn’t really worth it
>>75560098EQ is the usual rec but I’d personally suggest dhb. Gives really nice visual results if you’re lean and decent strength/size gains. Start at 350 mg/wk and increase if needed. If you do daily injections and mix it with test the pip is minimal.
>>75560010Why don’t you get out of the general for guys that like to blast supraphysiological levels of steroids if you have a problem with it you stupid fucking nigger.
>>75560057>800mg at trough>Test P has a half life of 19 hoursThat means his peaks are 800 / .5^(24/19) = 1900ng/dlAbsolutely in no way is 15mg/day of Test-P a replacement level dose >>75560155It's retarded self-TRTcels that annoy me
>>75560212based retard
natties are hilarious imagine believing that shit
>>75560212I acknowledge that this plotter is kinda retarded but it does at least understand that blood levels are more complicated than just the mg released would indicate. So I’ll reiterate, get out of the thread natty nigger.
what if I combine anavar with cialis and citrulline and arginine then do 8 hour arm workout
>>75560137Thanks mate, looks like I can source EQ easily enough will give it a try. I’m pinning test twice a week and I guess will run EQ in between, 2ml of oil in a single hit seems like a lot to deal with.
>>75560784I’d run the eq as high as you can without crashing your e2. Just keep an eye on your hematocrit and you’ll be fine.
Ok so I have contact with a roid seller and he has test enanthate for a suspicious low price. How do I test the quality of his products and know if his test is legit?
>>75560818Send it to Janoshik or just buy test from a source that already has testing.
Stop injecting subQ is gave me weird hard lumps
>>75560854That's why everyone recommends IM dumbassYou don't think people would prefer subq if it was actually viable? >nah I prefer scar tissue buildup/hitting veins
>>75560868idk how also you build scar tissue no matter what
>>75560818there is no such thing as suspiciously low prices for testosterone, there was just a promo for 6 dollar vials of test 250 and regular chink shit price is 10 dollars or less. with raws in the low 30s per gram
Okey boys whats the perfect anavar first cycle? liver support? pct?
>>75561067Are you gonna take anavar without test?
>>75561068suposse i got no idea dude everybody jsut says anavar i was thnking stacking with yk11
>>75561000When you buy a kit of test from the chinks you pay $3 a vial. Well, not right now with the container shit about to pop off (according to the tranny and his faggot reply guys). In normal times though buying straight from the chinks is dirt cheap. If you buy raws and brew you' pay like $1 a vial>>75560818>steroid sellerYou mean reseller. Unlikely he's brewing. If he's a plug selling in person he's probably a dumb ass so I would avoid for that reason alone. As for "suspicious pricing" that tells me you are new and have done zero research. Maybe start there. >>75560842>send to janoNo one is going to blind test a vial of test unless they are getting a credit. I doubt a locker room loser is giving outntest credits. Op needs to bite the bullet and pin the test then get bloodwork. You'll know right away.
i dont remember the last time I went 24+ hours without cumming
>>75561090>As for "suspicious pricing" that tells me you are new and have done zero research. Maybe start there.Other steroid labs sell me for 2 to 3 times the price of this one. I just think there might be something wrong
>>75561237When you bulk buy from China they're really really cheap
>>75552889What are the triggers for this conversion?
Gonna try deca next cycle. One of my (trusted) sources has 450 mg/mL vials. How bad will it hurt?
>>75561307testosterone and aromatase both existing? what kind of question is that xd
>>75561090Just to ride tranny's dick, i think they have only said to stock up because things may be hard up source for an unknown amount of time. Ghoul's the one flipping his shit over the de minimus reversal, and enhanced port xray stuff, that will jack prices up
>>75561374I think it doesn't matter what the active ingredient is... 300's okay. 400's gonna hurt. 500 and you'll be begging for mercy
Fin is crashing my libido, should I just go on deca? Will this prevent it all? Or should I embrace the dht and go on tren to become a coomer
I've been on gear for the past three months, injecting once every 3 days into my deltoids. I'm afraid to try new injection sites. I've thought of injecting into my side glutes, but I'm worried about pain when doing squats. I'm also well aware of virgin muscle pain from injections, and I know injecting over 2ccs into a muscle that's never been injected into is going to hurt. Which new muscles should I try? I also can't find any videos online going over how to inject into these different sites. The deltoids are the most straight forward and easiest site to inject into.
>>75561439deca will seal the deal and make your dick stop working if that was your goal
>>75561462youve been posting on this thread for many years and have never done roids before? that explains a lot of what is going on in this thread
>>75561483You're assuming I'm someone else. I've only been occasionally posting on here for the past three months.
>>75561439>>75561476Nta, but 500mg deca hasn't given me any issues with my dick.
>>75561428I fucking hate ghoul so much dude. I’m pretty sure he’s just a fat fuck who only takes trt doses and glp-1s. I’ve literally never seen him mention training once and he comments on every fucking thread on meso.
>>75561423Just was curious if it is a result of too much or too little anon, probably should have googled it
>>75561476another primocel terrified of deca
>>75560212Reference could mean 400
>>75561462Based I should also start pretending to be ravenfag
>>75549363I'm bulking on 200mg/week, my natural levels were 600ng/dl. Naturally I gained 3lbs per month. How much should I look to gain per month with the increased test?
>>75561462The side of the glute doesn't affect my squats at all.
>>75549363Any of you guys freeze your sperm before injecting?
>>75561757Oddly enough, I often get a pump in my right side glutes when doing squats, which is why I'm worried about this.
>>75561767I only take test, but I never noticed it when squatting. Only when I massage it or laying down in bed does it feel sore, kinda like after leg day. I do it there because my glutes and legs are trash. BTW, how many lbs per month should I gain on 200mg test/week?
>>75561775>BTW, how many lbs per month should I gain on 200mg test/week?That's literally an upper end TRT dose. Try at least going up to 300 or 350mg. I've heard this is what professional athletes commonly take without needing to worry about failing any drug test.
>>75561528Dude right? Jesus fuck
>>75561781Yeah I know, I'm just starting low as I get adjusted. What idk though is do guys literally try to double their weight gain as to what they'd do naturally? Like 3lbs a mo to 5-6?
>>75561785>I'm just starting low as I get adjusted.That makes sense. I only started taking steroids three months ago, and I started out by injecting around 350mg test E with 10mg dbol daily. It takes around a month before your test levels reach the highest amount from what you're injecting. The dbol actually helps you kickstart your cycle by working immediately I'm now injecting 700mg test E with a bit less than 500mg deca, and I'm taking 0.5mg arimidex once every 1.5 days.
>>75561587For every mg of deca they refuse to take, I'll take double. I'm doing 800/week, and, four weeks in, and I'm getting back to those annoying high school era boners that pop up for no reason. And it's happening more often as time goes, not less. Shit's gonna be hard all day by week six at this rate. Just take some test with it. Problem solved
>>75561755You're gonna get water weight too, but maybe 2lb a week. Could double it if you pin 500mg/week
>>75561791>>75561798I'm definitely considering upping it, don't get me wrong. Waiting for my 8 weeks blood test first at my TRT clinic. Guarantee they'll up the dose if I say the right things to them, they were so eager to give me 200mg as a healthy man with 600ng/dl natural levels lol
>>75561813Well start looking for some ugl's you can source from when you decide to drop the clinic haha! Hope it works out for you
>>75561587>>75561797primo is even more retarded, but deca definitely is miserable and dopamine agonists are life ruining lolbut youll learn the hard way buddy
>>75561813200mg no questions asked? Was is trt nation? They'll give you deca and var too. Tell them you have joint pain. >>75561995Yeah I went from clinic to ugl. I like it better. In addition to the cheaper test, you don't have to do any of the bs for the clinic. Test is the safest thing you can buy from a ugl. The raws are so cheap it's not worth it to counterfeit. HCG is the one that can be a pain in the ass to source
what should i add to my test-e cycle lol500mg by week .. for noobs.would mastoron be good
>>75562548Masteron is a cutting steroid that bodybuilders use when they want to start looking really lean. It acts as an estrogen receptor antagonist, so it results in less water retention in your bodily tissues, including your fat tissue.
>>75562548Depends on your goals. Eq is good and mild. Could do 250mg or up your test a bit and run 300. Run it 1:2 test:eq
>>75562548Are you already in the cycle? The main reasons people push 500mg test only is >simple and worksAnyone that scoffs at 500mg a week is a literal retard. You will still make progress on that even after 10 cycles. >one compoundHelps you learn what side effects are, how androgen feels, etc.>estrogen hitYour e2 will go up. For.most people they can handle the higher e2 for 16-20 weeks no problem. You actually want it to be slightly elevated. Test only gives you a slowish e2 progression so you can feel the side effects as they come. If you start thr cycle and 8 weeks in you're like fuck yeah, add 100mg of test and re-evaluate. If everything is fine there's no reason not to slowly go up to like 800mg. You will need ai at that point though.
>>75562562>1:2 test:eqThis crashes my e2. 1:1 for me
I sorta run 1g of eq and see it "shine"can't imagine running enough wet compounds to not crash e2 at that levelhaha
>>75562562is eq Boldenone Undecylenate?im having a hard time searching "EQ", closest thing i could find.. can you give me qrd on EQ?
>>75562860If you give up that easily on searching for information, you are probably not going to get btc, send to someone you've never met, order needles and other equipment, pierce your skin with a needle, and inject an oil. Just go buy some creatine or get a trt scrip from a clinic.
>>75562860read the wiki, stupid
>>75562733*sorta want to run
>>75562733I’ve thought about this a lot as well. I’ll probably give it a try eventually but I really don’t want to have to run 2 grams of test on top of it. I thought maybe trying MENT to get the estrogen up.
RATE MY CYCLE>300 mg nandrolone decanoate (for hypertrophy)>150 mg testosterone enanthate (for maintenance of normal testosterone)>1mg anastrozole eod (for estrogenic activity control)What am I in for, fraudbros?
>>75563137Your test dose should at least be equal to your deca dose, but preferably twice as much. This is because your body needs dihydrotestosterone, and the androgen produced when nandrolone binds to 5 alpha reductase doesn't really do anything.
>>75562548>cutting steroidit this 1995 or something?
>>75562166I've been blasting with deca for years. When will I "learn the hard way", faggot?
>>75563150But I'm having better erections and higher libido than before, do I still need more DHT? Or should I increase test-e only if my libido starts to crash?
>>75563162>it this 1995 or something?Nta, but, although I'm not a bodybuilder, the only benefit of cutting steroids is to allow you to have less water retention, thus creating the illusion that you have less body fat than you actually do.
>>75563169>do I still need more DHT?I've heard it's important for your neurological health, and in a lot of scenarios, what really matters is ratios of different hormones to each other. I'm no expert on this, but it's generally advised to have a 1 to 1 or 2 to 1 ratio of test to deca.
>>75563172another natty giving advice in the /fraud/ thread
>>75563178I've done quite a bit of research on gear, and that's literally all cutting steroids do. The different cutting steroids work differently from each other, but in general, they allow you to have a dryer look by either reducing the estrogen you would otherwise get from other steroids or simply antagonizing the estrogen receptor, as is the case with masteron, preventing your body from retaining as much water.
is it okay to pin always the same place?i read it was a bad idea and i should change pin location every time so it can spread evenly in your body
>>75562880Whoa hey don't be going telling people to hop on creatine all willy nilly. That shit's dangerous. Xe's gonna get too big!
>>75562166Now you got me curious... deca as a dopamine agonist? Closest thing i could find was addiction issues if you hop on coke.>>75562479Hcg is hard to find? I didnt realize
>>75561797>Shit's gonna be hard all day by week six at this rate. Just take some test with it.Do you take 1:1 or even 2:1 like >>75563150 said? Or should >>75563137 and >>75563169 work just fine for me?
I think the cut is workingcame out of the shower and wife did a double take then made a joke that we should do an OF if I'm gonna look so goodshe's biased and all but still, she's commented on me looking big during blasts and when i was natty but I guess abs helpcruise dose of test, retatrutide and hgh before you ask
>>75563218pinning the same place all the time builds scar tissue faster, which can lead to fibrous myopathy -- muscle tissue becomes stiff (reduced mobility & strength), chronic pain, chronic inflammation. limit volume and frequency to reduce tissue trauma>>75563285i'm 2'ish to 1 -- 1500 test : 800 deca
>>75563249Good hcg is. It turns to shit real fast. I only buy it from sources with jano in the last few months. The chinks and a couple of domestic kit sellers always have recent jano just from batch testing so I'm pretty exclusive to them for hcg.
>>75563478to clarify, i'm also taking 50mg proviron twice a day. if that dhn clogging up the dht receptors thing is the cause of deca dick, then the proviron would prevent the issue from happening. but there's plenty of anecdotes from people that don't have issues, and are only running test/deca
>>75563526ahh gotcha. yeah it's hard to get higher purity with that stuff, huh?
>>75563187> I've done quite a bit of research on gear
How do you make sure you get what you ordered? i have recieve my first vial but they could have put anything inside it and put a random label.do you guys do test? should i go to my local pharmacy so they can confirm its legit, i rather not but i dont want to put liquid aids into my body
>>75563288Nice progress. I’ve been on test, gh and tirz for about two months and went from 220 to 190. My wife was impressed 10 lbs ago but now has started talking about me being too lean. Little does she know the winter bulk is about to begin and I’ll be fat as fuck in no time.
>>75563547>too low testosterone to take testosteroneMany such cases
>>75563534The problem with the purity is it's fragile as shit. So even if it's 100% pure when it's made, it degrades l. When the pajeet stores it in the steel shed in the burning sun, the petide breaks down. It's the one peptide I don't shake to mix, maybe overkill maybe not.
>>75563288hell yeah dude! keep up the good work>>75563541dumbass picture makes me giggle every time...>>75563547i think there's some cheap-o testosterone testing kits on amazon, but i think it's just a.... yeah this seems about right sort of deal. also they're often flat out wrong, so it's kind of a waste. pharmacy's aren't gonna help -- they're not equipped to handle that stuff. only legit way is to send a vial off for testing, but I think that runs somewhere around $300. there's janoshik, and i think two other places. jano is the popular one though. really if you've done some research on vendors, you should be fine. especially when it comes to testosterone. the raw materials are so inexpensive, it's really pointless to fake it. and if ANYONE catches them faking something, even once, their reputation will be absolutely destroyed, and people cling tight to that shit. if there's even a chance that their gear is bunk, you definitely would have seen a thousand posts calling them out on it. if you still went and bought from them after that, or you bought from some "new" ugl just because they were $5 less than the next guy, then you're beyond saving, and you deserve your liquid aids. gotta have at least some sense of self preservation man>>75563569fukkin lol'd>>75563670tranny paid jano to run a test on that sometime earlier this year. they just left a vial sitting on the counter, and tested it every however long. the degradation wasn't crazy. even then it doesn't make it "bad", just reduced effective dose. same for degradation after reconstituting. but if that's all you're worried about, i honestly wouldn't fret over it too much. even if the ugl takes precautions, the actual act of shipping is still a free for all. you can never be sure if your stuff is gonna be stuck in a shipping container on a loading dock for a month, a box fell out of the cart at the airport, or the deliver truck's rear brakes caught the back half of the truck on fire
>>75563670side note, i feel disgusted with myself... is it you that keeps posting these cows? i'm starting to enjoy them.... damn steroids are ruining my life! #skinnyfaketits4eva
any suggestion from /fit/ for a newbie cycle?or should i follow the reddit suggestion 200mg test by week ?
>>75564047fuck you, nigger
>>75563547You don't. You just take it and do blood work after it has peaked and look at the positive/negative effects if it is working as intended or not.You just buy from a reputable seller that has posted testing before and hope for the best.This is why as a beginner you start one compound at a time and once that is dialed in you add more. If you start with many at once you won't know which is causing what effect, which is working and which isn't etc.
Anyone here have any specifically different workout routine they do when blasting as opposed to cruising? Also post favourite weekly routines all 'round anons, would like to contrast and compare
>>75564522I’ve been experimenting with a few different routines when cruising. The two I like most for maintaining are twice a week full body HIT (2-3 workouts per muscle group, 1-2 sets to failure in the 8-12 rep range) and three day a week Arnold split (just arnold split but one cycle a week, change exercises every four weeks or so). On blast I either do a modified 531 where I skip the three week and only do a deload every sixth week or arnold split with only one leg day week. I can just handle so much more volume and frequency on blast that it’s nice to relax a little and get out of the gym for a while and it’s not like I’m going to bulk when I’m cruising anyway.
I just learned that progesterone slows down the GI track, leading to more gas buildup. Does deca produce enough of a progestogenic effect to contribute to this? I do eat a ton of protein, but a lot of my farts are diabolical. I'm on around 500mg deca with 700mg test E.
>>75564522i tend to do more full body on cruise, and less hours in the gym. blast i find myself focusing a lot on my back. i also do a lot less legs on blast, just because i've had thunder thighs my whole life, and it's easy for me to get tumor quads>>75564575i'm on 800mg/week, and haven't noticed anything i would attribute to the deca. i have looser stool, but i've also started drinking more. lots of seasonal stuff that's been catching my eye lately... and decade long buildup of marital stress that i'm not dealing with in a healthy manner. hah :(
>>75558389That seems like a shit ton of test for cutting and running with tren. That's usually how you get even worse sides, but like the other anon said, if it works, send it. >>75558745Traps and delts blow up I think because of the amount of androgen receptors so avoid shrugs and shit if it's too much already lol>>75559475Maybe explain more about why you're stopping on week 4 retard>>75561074kys>>75562548People don't recommend Mast until under 10% bf. Also if its your first cycle then just add var and don't fuck with anything else.
Old man problems. I'm on blast, going pretty well, but I feel like I'm getting worn down. This is week 12 of 20 for me. I skipped my workout today because my legs aren't fully healed from last week and my joints are hurting, like accumulation. This is the first time I've felt a strong you're done signal. I was thinking I'd drop way down on my cycle and doing rehab work and maybe even do a mini-cut. Or should I just cruise? Either way I'm also taking tb and hgh and bpc is coming.Right now I'm on 600 test 300eq. Was thinking of dropping to 300/150 and changing my workout to high rep/volume with lot's of cardio. I have kind of an all or none mentality so if I can't go all out lifting I want to at least go all out cardio while I recover.
>>75565099Take a deload week and get your e2 tested. I’m nearing 40 and I’ll tell you that on long cycles I usually deload every 5th or 6th week because I get too fucked up by the end otherwise.
>>75564047>the reddit suggestion 200mg test by week ?last i checked the reddit suggestion for a first cycle is 500 mg a week, but its been about a decade
>>75563137whered you come up with this stupid shit? link me to whatever you looked at im curious
>>75564047just went and looked and sure enough the recommended dose on reddit is still 500mg a week>Weeks 1-15: Testosterone E or C, 250 mg every 3 or 3.5 days (E3D or E3.5D) for a total of 500 mg per week.
whats the best cutting mini-blast
>>75551327hes cancer free now nigger
>>75565099as an old man, high rep/volume and cardio kills my joints the mostdeload and check e2 like the other anon said, estrogen is good for joints so if it is low then that could be your problem probably not high e2 since you have eq in their but who knowsother things I've used in the past for similar situations are anavar, hgh, deca and healing peptides like bpc157 and tb500, if you have some laying around that isbest advice tho is maximize recovery and deload for a bit
>>75565099When my E2 is high I am unbelievably lethargic and get this feeling. Unlikely with EQ but worth the thought of getting bloods like the other 2 anons said.
I'm 33% BF (5'11 146lbs).Is it safe to use steroids? What should I use?I heard obese people shouldn't use it so that's why I'm asking.Test 978 ng/dl
The jew fears the home phlebotomist
>>75565557Troll
I pinned nebido 1000mg/4ml about 3 weeks ago, not sure I am feeling anything. Should I pin another? I want to increase my Labido
>>75565557>>75565633not a troll at all
>>75565753>>75565557what the fuck
>>75565753Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.>mfw thinking about you hurting
>>75565557Why are you niggers so stubborn? Glp1 + cruise + hgh. Do it for 6 months. Workout as much as you are able to. Eat as much protein as you can
>>75565688then take viagra or something, retard
>>75565802>Why are you niggers so stubborn?because I heard obese people shouldn't use steroids. I'm obese even tho my BMI is 21.>Glp1 + cruise + hghcruise with WHAT? I don't really think I need GLP 1, is ot really necessary?
>>75565851Yeah, you’re a fat fuck. Why wouldn’t it be necessary? If you can cut down to 12% without it then fine, but tirz will make it easy and quick
>>75565688>nebidoWould recommend some PT-141 as well, specifically the nasal spray at 10mg p/spray
>>75565688Pin 250 every week
>>75565994Can I split up nebido like that?
>>75565999What kind of container is it in?
>>75566019A glass vial with a top for needles
>>75566025Then obviously yes
>>75565870>Yeah, you’re a fat fuck. Why wouldn’t it be necessary?my BMI is already 21... my current BF% is 33... I'd need to reach BMI 15 to be 12% BF
this thread is dire lol
>>75559771>he doesn't know
>>75560868subQ is fine if you pin daily, injecting a large volume will create lumps
>>75565311Why what's wrong with it?
>>75566743where did you come to the conclusion that it made any sense?
>>75566766>won't answerWhy doesn't it make any sense? I feel like you're just trolling...
>>75566766Test is good and nandrolone is also good
>>75566735Subq is fine for small bits of oil like. 5ml or less. It's probably retards slamming the plunger. I go even slower subq. Like 30 seconds to push .4ml. I even do that with water. Subq heals better than IM. Thinner needle, smaller poke, and the low volume doesn't cause any tissue damage. Since I beat the shit out of my glutes on blast I try to do delts, quads, and subq on cruise.
just received my stack, how long till i feel the gear kick in while working out? or should i wait after jeez
How much does the ester matter if you pin subq? How fast is it compared to dbol?
>>75566252In that case I take back what I said, you’re not a fat fuck. You’re a lazy, fat faggot who doesn’t even lift trying to cut corners. Star exercising natty, learn how to eat and bulk for six months straight followed by a cut. If you’re not happy after doing that twice then we can talk about roiding but for now you need food, exercise and hard work.
>>75566778Different anon. Absolutely dogshit cycle. One answer to why it sucks is already itt too so I won’t be telling you either. Where DID you come up with this?
Xisters, what happened? Where did all this faggotry come from?
I have test in a capped syringe which I haven't used and has been sitting in a closed container for weeks. Should it still be okay to use?
Bump
>>75567468I dunno but it's a fucking car crash of a thread nowholy shit
Im doing my first blast but I still tell people Im on TRT...
>>75568676If they believe you, that means your dose is too low
>>75568834I never believed him btwi just dont want him to get too small
>>75567485the rubber in it is probably all swollen and probably is in the oil now but otherwise its fine to use
>>75568014Haha! Yeah... well the thread may be disappointing, but at least our gear will never let us down
>>75568834Only 500 test 300 primo so probablyNext blast I will add npp to that and get huge
>>75569117bro, cutting on masteron is fucking great
>>75561090How the fuck do I even find raws? Every website I've seen is super sus and fake looking.
>>75569337What do you like about it? I'm trying test/deca for my winter coat, then switching to test/tren/tirz before spring. Thinking of a test/tren cruise. No plans for next blast yet though. Maybe give hgh a shot? Primo, so i can ditch the ai? Or maybe this anavar only thing that seems to be so popular around here lately. lol>>75569360Find one in the underground of the thinking man's steroid forum
>>75569557>mastbeing able to run enough gear to hit PRs and lose 0.5+ lbs a day simultaneously for an entire cut, or worst case scenario maintaining strength from the previous blastno e2 concerns or bloatingdht derivative so that can be a negative if you're sensitive to that thorequired for a cut, no not at all, but has made this one way less of a grind>experimenting with other compoundsanavar is mild, no surprise, but I like it as a preworkout and tiny bit of strength boostprefer EQ for the AI properties, plus it gives nice vascularity and some cardio boost if you take enoughhgh, run 2-4 iu, great if you are 30+ for general body composition, youthful skin, etcprobably gonna do a test/deca/EQ+orals blast sometime next year, can't wait 2bh
>>75569557mast isn't anabolic, more like a feelgood, anti water gain compound. Anavar is creatine 2.0, only shines at 50mg for men. EQ over primo if you want the ai effect.
>>75570292I love anavar at 60mg/day tbqhwy but just because it gives modest visual and strength gains with basically no sides
