You would think muscular, aesthetic people are instinctively pleasing to the eye because they represent health and vitality yet it seems like the opposite is true. Why is that?
>>75579752it's only you who associate 'being fit' with being some big dumb inflated balloon animal
>>75579752Because there is no benefit to being 5% bf in a combat sport
>>75579770
>>75579803That is in fact an actor playing a boxer, anon.
>>75579752Sports are pure genetics (and peds)
>>75579855Rocky was a documentary
>>75579752Because people who are unhappy are empty, and so they develop the exterior of their bodies to compensate.
>>75579752Most people I know or see are not 6'8 like the left fella, or muscular with decent sized arms like the right.
>>75579770Loads of boxers benefit from being as lean as possible, as to hold the benefit of being larger framed and muscled for their weightclass.Heavyweight boxing also features many lean and mean boxers, to name a few:>Evander Holyfield>Anthony Joshua>Deontay Wilder>The Klitschkos>David Haye>Francis Ngannou (lol)>Daniel Dubois
>>75579752reminder that this is an Oleksander Usyk board
eating too much junk food saturated with seed oilsSAD!
>>75579752Natural > roid tranny fraud
>>75579803Roid tranny poser
>>75579969Another roid tranny. Notice the veins in the biceps. Not natural. Fake natty trannies will seethe and cope.
>>75579752The problem is simply that you've been brainwashed by roidtranny propaganda.
>>75580174It is no secret that competitive athletes roid, especially Anthony Joshua in the pic.
who's whiter hohols or gypsies?
>>75579974Based>>75579752Who do you think wins the rematch, anons? The first fight was awesome. I think Usyk takes the rematch as well, by unanimous decision. But I wouldn't be surprised if he TKO'D Fury because he was really close to doing that in the first fight. Fury is a great fighter and he could try to be dirty and lean on/maul Usyk in close but that would tire Fury out after a few rounds and Usyk's cardio is insane. So yeah, Usyk wins the rematch by UD. It's a good time to be a boxing fan.
>>75579974>>75580335>omg Usyk, he is so wholesomerinoo!!! Lets go reddit!!!
>>75580335Hopefully Fury keeps concentration and KOs that draft dodging phaggit
>>75580174>Notice the veins in the biceps.No idea as to that guy's natty status, but I definitely get veins like that on my biceps when I'm lean and I've never touched a roid. Some people are just more vascular than others.
>>75580352fury lost, faggot
>>75580352>Usyk being redditYou're a fuckin brainrotted mong. Go back there if you obsess over it so much. >>75580360Usyk served in the Ukrainian army and was given permission to leave after his service was done. Seethe more. Fury's great too but he needs to lay off the coke and boose because he's not getting any younger. Bunch of fucking casuals that DNSAB.
>>75579752>Why are the fittest humans on earth looking so ordinary?Because muscle mass and lifting is very, very overrated. Basically, the age of lifting for everyone started after WW2 with the introduction of steroids and is now already on its way out again with functional trainign and the resulting "dyel" bodies becoming the norm among even elite athletes again just like before. Basically, we have an anomaly of lifting for hypertrophy and max strength for everyone for a few decades and no more. The average athlete at the Olymic level is already visibly less muscular than in the 80s and 90s, even in high strength sports like gymnastics, weightlifting and track.Lifting will return to its roots as a sport for people who are not good at and not interested in sports.
>>75579752>train to be skilled in use of your body to fight other human beings>body looks unaesthetic >train for hypertrophy >body looks aesthetic but you won't win a fight Woah, what a concept. THERE ARE TRADE OFFS IN LIFE? BRUUUUUUUUUUUH
>>75580174Want to know how I know you're fat?
Fury has named the jew and, therefore, is /ourguy/Either way the inoue fight on Christmas eve is going to be better
Lmao Jon Jones and Alex Pereira kill them irl. Obviously still not bodybuilder physique, but far leaner than these fat fucks on fight day. Pereira is actually a lean muscular big guy albeit obviously having bodybuilder proportions would slow him down
>>75581793Jon "I'm obsessed with West Coast guys" Jones looks like utter shit at heavy weight
>>75580174>veins in the bicepslol I’m underweight and I had veins popping out of my shoulders back when I never touched a weight at all
>>75581850Ya he's a bit fluffier at heavyweight ofc, u can't build 80 lbs of muscle tissue in a few years, but even still looks leaner than these fat fucks, or look at when he was middleweight he was much leaner
>>75580174my dad has a massive fat beer gut and still has veins on his bicepsmanual labour will do that to you. try lifting from time to time.
>>75581873He's skinnyfat
>>75581718nobody who ducks fights can ever be my guy. same reason jones is overrated
>>75581185This post reeks of reddit, defend your little draft dodger as much as you want, he ran from his country
>>75579969Kek
>>75579752aesthetic looking bodies is straight up genetics. You'd be surprised how many people with good looking bodies can barely run half a mile.
>>75579752Physical fitness is a function of cardiovascular adaptation. It has nothing to do with how much muscle or bodyfat you carry.
>fightniggers>fittest humansLmfao what are they fit for? Spending 20 minutes huffing in the ring once every 2 years? The fittest humans would be triathloners, rock climbers, bushcrafters, archers, divers
>>75579803honestly, 80's boxers in general were aesthetic as fuck. I don't know what happened afterwards
>>75579752Because you're indian
>>75582685Worse quality cameras make people look better because blemishes and defects dont show up.
>>75579770maiku taisun
>>75579969>Loads of boxers benefit from being as lean as possible, as to hold the benefit of being larger framed and muscled for their weightclass.They only get lean in time for their weigh in, 24 hours before they fight. That's also where all the glamor shots come from. Those fighters aren't actually lean though, they're just dehydrated as fuck so that they can make weight while actually being significantly heavier than their contract weight.>Weigh 220 @ 20% BF>Contracted to fight at 190>Lose 30lbs of sweat via vinyl sweat suit + sauna in the hours leading up to the weigh in>Walk in at "190" looking lean as fuck>Get a bunch of press shots looking cut>Make weight on the scale>Go back to hotel room, rehydrate over the next 24 hours right back up to 220>Walk into the ring at 220 for a 190 fightThat's how boxing and most fight sports that use the 24 hour weigh in system work. The fighters are only lean for roughly 6-8 hours. They rarely walk into the actual ring looking as cut as they do at the scale. Even the photo you posted looks like its a press shot from a weigh in ceremony.
>>75579752Most people have popcorn muscle, all show no go. This is the body of the most dangerous HW in the world.
>>75582889that's not tom
>>75579752Alistair Overeem looks pretty good. It really just comes down to the fighter. Some fighters get around being in conventionally good shape by having physical characteristics that give them a major advantage. Tyson Fury is a fat unathletic looking fuck, but he has insanely long orangutan arms that allow him to make up for his otherwise unathletic body.
>>75582896lmao Tom is br*tish
>>75582898>posts ubereem
>>75582882Kinda funny you can't find images of boxers between fights anymore. Athletes are truly a protected class today.
>>75579752Bumfights id 100% destroy both of them
>>75579752unironically too much TV
>>75579752>throws a 100 dollar bill between 2 hobos sharing a Crack pipeProfessional fighting, time to get drunk and bet on the hobos going at it I got 100 on Thomas.
>>75579752Fighters are not the best athletes in the world, fighters are alcoholics with nerve damage who can take a serious beating regularly. There are guys stronger and more skilled that don't want to spar so often because it results in deformed nose you can't even breathe through, deformed orc ears, chipped teeth, and brain damage. The people you're seeing in the ring are just the guys they could find that are ok with that. That's exactly why you see the Western guys get their fucking asses beat by these Chechens and Dagestanis now they they're allowed to compete. They actually train and put some skill into it, Western "fighters" are just the drunk ass losers who are willing to take a beating. I mean some of those Dagestanis have records of 29-0, that should say something extremely negative about our fighters.
>>75582889JJ would be bigger without steroids because of testing he should try sarms or some unmanned substance or something like that at this point or straight trt low dose when testing.
>>75581718Goodman already cancelled AGAINit's booked for January if the clown doesn't duck
>>75583197Based take and yes this is the reason why most fighting sports don't include strikes like jiu jitsu and wrestling, the guys are too pussy to take an actual beating and deal with the long term consequences of actually fighting.
>>75583197The level of brutality a "fighter" is trady for and will ko someone cold irl without gloves is you underestimating them severely gloves make you hit so much less hard unless wrapped then you can send it hard to the head or body and it feel harder.
>>75583202Wrestling does not work on people who are actually fast and are good at striking and know what you're gonna do grappling wise, a low bar for an opponent if you ask me. Then again nobody has for real sick striking like that and is strong enough to torque someone hard enough.
>>75582896The point still stands with Tom.
>>75582898Prime Alistair probably wrecks everyone in pro fighting ever he could 100% bench like 450 at some point but is also elite tier kb/mt.
>>75579752You don't have to be fit to be a good boxer. It is mainly just stamina management and 5 second bursts of effort. If you can walk for two hours straight with 10lb weights in each hand that is all the stamina you need. Look at MMA fighters by comparison. You will notice generally a lot less fat and more muscle as the whole fight may be half as long but at much greater intensity.
>>75583198Jon Jones has always done stimulants. That is why he is on another level from everyone else.
>>75583235yes. i was just being cheeky about>This is ... the most dangerous HW in the world.
>>75583312Not on steak/garlic bread and pasta/chicken lookin hungry
>>75582896Tom is a shitty fighter and he is just being hyped up because it isn't certain Jon will stick around. New fans are so fucking retarded. A fight with Jon Jones wouldn't even be close. Tom wouldn't even be able to take out a prime Roy Nelson. The heavyweight division has no talent right now. 40 year olds have sat on top of the division for the last couple years.
>>75579752Performance =/= health =/= longevityThis has been known as far back as ancient Greece. All those statues? Supposed to portray hobbyists by design because being a pro athlete was considered over-specialized, unhealthy and ultimately degenerate.
>>75583478I'd wreck hw ufc and I'm a bum I can punch at least 50% harder than any of them
>>75581793Pereira is literally DYEL like OP mentioned.Look at him next to an average MMA meathead from Germany.
>>75581185/pol/ just hates him because he's a nazi from Ukraine, ignore them.
>>75583481Physique wise strength can be hugely disproportionate, fighting wise you only have to have so strong to destroy anyone. Strong gets you so far, good and fast get you further as Ling as you aren't. Weak as shit aka sub 3pl8 bench for reps.
>>75583498N9 yeah dude i can tank a mile tyson to the head if he's benching 365 for warmup
>>75582679Actually the fittest humans would be decathletes because they have to be able to win at all track events, and they're DYEL as fuck. Pic related is the current world champion, Norway's Markus Rooth.
>>75583483Go for it. As long as you have a wrestling base there isn't any scary dudes right now. Ngannou ran through the division with sloppy boxing combinations.
>>75582685That guy was an actor, not a boxer.Pic related is 80s heavyweight boxing.
>>75582889>most dangerous HW in the world>call to fame is beating up a guy who hasn't been fighting for like 2 years
>>75583504Nah I punch way harder than him I make him look like a pool noodle
>>75583197Churkas can't fight for shit lmao, they get titles for political reasons.>>75583498I guarantee you that 99% of combat sports champions all through history can't bench 3 pl8s for reps.>>75583513An amateur to boot, Miocic's day job is being a firefighter, not a fighter.They simply never forgave him for mauling their golden child Ngannou.
>>75583522And I'm getting to where it's doable under 2yrs from <185 1rm bench and they aren't natty.
>>75583527Yeah but you also can't punch the skin off a pudding.
>>75583532I'm pretty sick and I can tricep push down 110lbs all day I'll fuck anyone up hoe what were you learning how to strip and dance all sexy the way I bench you barely do more than me.
>>75582889>This is the body of the most dangerous HW in the world.Not Ngannou
>>75579752tall in a sport that revolves around endurance first, technique second, explosive strength MAYBE third.
>>75583549I've yet seen anyone beat someone by tricep push downing them. Have you ever sparred before? Or did some competitions? Its like saying I can sprint because I squat 4pl8s, but I dont really train to sprint, I just read that sprinters do squats so that means I am a good sprinter.
>>75581718>inouefighting match becomes silly when both men in the ring weigh less than average western woman.
>>75584167Most fights below heavyweight is lighter than the average western woman. You think you're being witty with that reply?
>>75582204Who did he duck?
>>75579752what do you mean by "fittest"? How are those "the fittest"?
>>75579770George Foreman was Asian?
>>75583232Are you actually retarded? Every week we see people fight each other who "KNOW" what the other person is going to do, actually know wrestling defense and are good at striking (here you'll come up with some bullshit about them not being that good, nevermind several of them are high level kickboxing champions). And they get ragdolled throught the canvas.The amount of training a striker has to do to proficiently fend off a high level wrestles is insane. And some asshole in the street won't know what to do against even a mediocre wrestler.All things being the same, wrestling always beats striking. You're living in some bullshitsu world, you absolute fucking faggot.
>>75583503He doesn't look dyel.>>75582679The fittest is the sports than combine strength, explosivness, endurance and contact across the body, and that would be rugby. >6'3 @ 115kg and runs around, tackles and wrestles for 40 mins a half.
>>75584240Someone who has trained to recieve strikes, and how to deliver strikes isn't going to always win. What are they gonna do, hug them? We see all the time wrestlers getting bullied by strikers in the ring, hence fighters like Jones, Adesanya, Anderson Silva, Holloway, Ngannou and much more did so well with winning most of their fights with strikes.That undefeated bum Askren got KO'd in 2 seconds by Masvidal.
>>75582556This. Looks != performance. Some of the greatest athletes and fittest people in history would get called dyels and told they look like shit if they posted body hereEven zyzz, who looked amazing, wasn't even much of an athleteBut also, these guys like fury, usuk and Jones are 100% real and that's how they actually look. what you see on social media is mostly fake, even the top fitness influencers like david laid heavily edit their photos. not even david laid really looks like david laid
>>75584240Americans talking about fighting is so funny lmao.
>>75584363Unless you are Chechen, stfu nigger.
>>75582290
>>75584369Imagine thinking freestyle restling is some new ultra secret style nobody has ever squared off against irl lmao.
>>75584263>He doesn't look dyel.>No chest no abs just slightly muscular armsk fatty
>>75579752Fighters can't lift their coaches tell them to do the gayest shit imaginable and they keep on doing it for the rest of their life
>>75584240Wrestling is gay and you have to be strong enough to use tiger style I punch harder drunk and fresh off like 10 sets of bench.
>>75584240I would destroy the hw lineup youre a pussy
>>75584487Chest is a gay meme
>>75584537Not for hooks and the power hand, shoulders make it so you can pop harder and follow through stiffer if forearms are strong enough to not break.
>>75584281You've never been destroyed by someone with striking I think my training might put me at by far the best martial artist on the website. I can do bjj just by seeing it I can sink a triangle arm bar guillotine on someone who sucks but you've never tried to wrestle someone who can fuck you up with one lil rabbit punch to the head you're training wrong like when you use bad technique it takes so much time to Un train any time I see people fight in the mma fitness matrix I puke in my mouth.
>>75584487>chest is stretched out, appearing flatter>clear insertion for abs and oblique muscle>clear shoulder musclesCmon now. He looks better than most normal people, not dyel, just slim.
>>75583493Height and left is clearly cuttingWhen pereira cuts for weighins he looks shreddedIirc his coach wants him to move up after another fight or two, because he's cutting too much weight
>>75583493Doesn't look Dyel at all, looks fucking huge, broad af, big boned.
>>75585388he's not cutting too much weight, that's absurd. he was regularly making 185lbs for weigh-ins just a year or two ago. there's no way he has now gained so much muscle (!) he can't reasonably cut to 205 lbs any more.
>>75579770Except for meeting a lower weight class. Especially as a taller and stronger guy, if you can cut weight down to be right at the top of a lower class then you can really mog the fuck out of them. At the level of local club competitions you basically just end up fighting skinnyfat manlets, who are potentially even a lot lighter than you.The difference between 81kg @ 12% BF and 73kg @ 25% BF is pretty massive in judo, but they both fight in the same class.
>>75584555What kind if retard speak is this?Anyways, power is about technique and transference of force from your feet to your hands like a kinetic chain.
>>75579770At fixed weight classes there is. You want to pack as much useful weight as possible.
>>75582685It's because the 80s was the peak of steroid abuse in sports. From the 90s onwards, drug bust associations like the USADA, WADA, and VADA started going hard. Nowadays, boxers have to be more careful about their gear use. Doses are much lower and cycles are properly planned.
>>75579752Aesthetic? Muscular?
>>75587042Its still a diminishing return after a certain point. Losing too much bf% can lead to dehydration, which can seriously fuck up your capacity to take a punch. Even if you have 24h to rehydrate, the brain is not hydrated enough after that level of dehydration. Plus your muscles wont be that rehydrated enough anyway. So much for "useful muscle weight" if your muscles aren't at 100%.Also cutting weight is harder and less beneficial as you age. After your mid 30s you might want to take it easy weight cutting.There is a reason Dustin Poirier, Charles Olivera (even if he still cuts like crazy), Robert Withatek, Alex Pereira, and those recent big mma names go up a weight class and start shining once they need to cut less.Of course not a lot does the lightweight -> welterweight jump, because the gap is too big for some retarded reason.
>>75585443>Love handles>No definition>Skinny arms>Shoulder widt identical to the shorter guyYeah keep coping thirdie.
>>75579803he literally died
>>75579752boxing is an exception to the rule, you can have many different bodyshapes, but if you take highly competitive MMA for exemple, they all look shredded except some heavy weights
>>75579752>fittest humans on earthNope, try again
>>75583497/pol/ hates nazis? what happened?
>>75583493only on fit can you read this retarded shit lmaoim facepalming so hard rnPereira is dyel now hahaha
roiders and social media really do be fuckin people up
