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I've been doing for a year like 25 sets per muscle group a week until now and i am not seeing much progress on the weigth i can lift, some guy at the gym told me to slow down and do less sets and get more rest, to give you an idea i, i did pull-push on the same session 2 days a week

So what do you think? Is it too much?
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>>75581281
kek. i do 25 sets per WORKOUT, and train 6 days of the week. and i see amazing progress in strength and muscle size.
that is 6 times more volume than you do. just to give a perspective.
rest is overrated, and im not kidding
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>>75581347
need to correct myself. i do like 25 sets per workout, so on push day it includes also shoulders and triceps. just for chest it would be 12 sets per workout day, which is still a lot more than u
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>>75581281
Thinking in terms of muscle groups is idiotic.
1 set to failure per muscle per week is enough to grow but towards the end of a training cycle I do to 3-8 failure sets every 3-4 days.
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>>75581347
>>75581358
I am similar.
8-10 sets for a bigger muscle group.
6 sets for a smaller muscle group.
So in total for a push day that adds up to about ~23 sets.
That twice a week, got a decent symmetry. (pic rel)
Even though you can get away with less volume than that if you really push the first 1-2 sets of each muscle.
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>>75581440
How much time have you been working out?
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>>75581446
Well I have been working out since around 6 years, had a 7 months pause until July this year.
Just got back into the gym again since 5 months, got really fat before but at least gained back most of my size while losing fat.
Still some way to go for my old physique..
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>>75581457
You look good, keep up with the work
>>75581347
>>75581358
Yeah ok, now post body
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>>75581281
I try to go for over 9000 per muscle, but that's just for maintenance.
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>>75581463
Sounds like you might be overtraining
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>>75581461
>You look good, keep up with the work
Thanks mate, appreciate it. WAGMI
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>>75581347
>>75581358
This faggot ain't posting body kek
>Hey look at me, i do 400 sets everyday and my strength is over the clouds haha look at me i'm so strong
>That's nice anon can you post body
>...
Fucking queer
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this varies per individual, but 4 working sets per week per muscle group is the average minimum effective volume for hypertrophy. most individuals would do well with 10 working sets per week. of course these should be divided into two or three workouts to maximize the frequency of stimuli
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>>75581545
20+ sets per session gang reporting in.
5’11 190 lbs
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>>75581832
You’re fucking SWOLE
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>>75581832
For how long have you been training out of curiosity?
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>>75581856
3 years now
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>>75582136
You look big, i've been training for year and a half and i'm far from looking like that, congrats
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>>75581281
A) It depends on how strong you are. You're gonna need more and more as you progress.
B) Not all sets are equal. For example, your 5 rep max for 5 reps is something like 5 sets of your 9 rep max for 5 reps.
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>>75581832
Are you natty and if so I'm mirin and what is your routine?
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>>75581281
I do less pull like .5x as much nowadays and any way else you're fuckin your shoulder posture up, I'll be lazy and do 1 or 2 lifts push then arms and be done I'm going to bed.
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>>75581281
Rest another day and do some push as the basis else domt even go
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>>75583424
I feel like i am not completely recovered on my sessions, might have to lower the volume for some time to see if i can feel recovered that way
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>>75581281
27-30 sets per workout. 3 sets of 9-10 exercises.
Gotta go big to get big. Also take your creatine and eat plenty of food.
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>>75583387
Yep, I am 100% natty. My routine is a little goofy.
I do:
Upper body
Lower body
Abs, shoulders, forearms (this I consider an active rest day)
Then push
Then pull.
It’s kind of a mix between upper/lower and PPL.
If I’m feeling frisky I do legs again to make it a 6 day split, but I’ll be honest I mostly just do legs once, so a 5 day split.
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>>75584237
5 days and then repeat or 5 days and then rest on the weekend?
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>>75581281
Why do people even count sets and reps? I just pyramid to failure and don't count anything
>test reps at baby weight just to make sure I'm not feeling creaky or off
>pyramid up to hopefullly a new PR (I try each time), smaller jumps as you get higher
>if you're feeling creaky, don't go to max weight, take it as a rest-ish workout
>do max weight til I fail
>back off til I fail again
>keep doing the last step till I'm totally blasted
been doing this with a basic bro spilt and it works
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>>75584648
5 days a week, always starting on Sunday. Love my Sunday morning workouts, there’s only boomers in the gym lol
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>>75585166
I did that for my first year. I figured if I’m lifting to failure then why even count reps. Well after a year I noticed I was still curling the same dumbbells. Once I started programming my gains exploded. There’s a psychological factor to having a goal that you want to beat each session
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>>75585321
>Once I started programming my gains exploded
Can you explain
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>>75585329
His body needed to rest, so all that time sitting at his desk really helped
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>>75585335
That explains a lot, programming on java made me gain 20lbs of pure muscle
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>>75585321
how do you not notice you're not progressing? I remember my max weights and try to beat them every time
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>>75585316
Dope. I've been trying to see if I can keep progressing with just enough sets every 5 days but it's just not happening. I'm gonna take the weekly approach wherein you do hell sets now.
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>>75585572
The best advice on how many sets per week you should do is: however many you can recover from. If you’re sore as fuck and your next lifting session lost reps, then you did too many sets. If that’s not the case then keep adding sets until you find how many you can do.
The number of sets to do per week is so incredibly subjective, it varies wildly from person to person. But it’s easy enough to find out how many you can handle.
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>>75585817
Notes that, I saw Mike Israelite saying that 12 series per muscle group is enough, gotta try and see if that works for me
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>>75581281
Depends on the body part. With some body parts I only do a few. With others I do up to 17 sets in a single workout.
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(Not counting warm up sets obviously)
3-5 sets of one exercise on one workout consisting of 5-7 exercises, about half compounds, few isolated body parts, soooo 9-15 compound and 9-15 isolated.
18-30 sets on one workout.
if you can still do some more then 1-2 I'm fucked up sets till you drop on the floor wanting to puke(best feeling when you pump so hard you could puke, dyels would never understand)
36-60 sets per week if working the same body parts 2 times a week.
If working out 2 times a day then it would be 72-120. Really exhausting but when I've done it I started to look like frauding roiders on instagram while being natty.
Seriously if you didn't try to train 2 times a day(1 training at morning 1 at evening) then you don't know what real pump is.
inb4
>anon that's retarded, you'll have to be roiding for something like this.
yes and no. Obviously roiding makes it easier, but if you are natty and muscles are too sore and exhausted after 1 workout then just do another body muscle group on the second workout.
for example chest+triceps on 1st workout
legs on the second.
next day either rest or cardio or back or biceps+forearms etc.
this is not a longtime method, really exhausting but it will help you to push it when stagnated and don't want to switch exercises.
tl.dr just fucking lift more
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>>75581832
lifting for you this afternoon, what a physique
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I dunno chatgpt tells me to do lowish reps more sets for leg compounds, 8-12 for chest, 12-15 for delts, to failure for lats.
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Sets per week is irrelevant.
Training -> recovery -> adaption -> training
You train however much you can in a single session, recover how long that takes, then do it again.
If you can only get 3-4 sets per group in that session so be it you'll just be recovered sooner. If you can get 6-8 might be a few days.
Anything over 4 per group (in a single session) should be added as accessory work.
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>>75587765
Get it brother. Hope you’re nice and sore tomorrow



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