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This is your fault you fucking chuds
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so raw vegan is god tier cutting diet? good to know.
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>>75613011
How do you read the word malnutrition and think “god tier”?
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>>75612995
You're welcome
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>>75612995
>no name
>no source
Sure OP, I’ll believe you
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>>75613013
Probably an anorexic gay anon
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>>75613013
by knowing what malnutrition means anon.
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>>75612995
I read comments on this that were seething people were blaming veganism rather than raw food or fruitarianism. As if cooked vegetables are nutritious lmao. The average person is such a fucking mindslave.
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>>75613014
This is actually true. But this "news" is 5 years old at best.
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>>75612995
i’m surprised it took a whole 10 years, the human body is amazing
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raw vegans are a special breed. the ones who seriously follow it will gradually increase their stomach capacity until they eat pounds of fruit in one sitting, and they STILL look like holocaust campers because it's like 98% water
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>>75613018
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/zhanna-d-art-controversial-vegan-103732586.html
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>>75613067
stfu
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>>75613018
vegan spotted
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>>75612995
crazy bitch fuck china dick
she on that great china famine diet
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>>75612995
>slowly starving to death over 10 years to prove you are a superior eater
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>>75612995
how'm she starved if she ated?
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SHE DID IT WRONG SHE DIDN'T EAT ENOUGH DISGUSTING BOYNZ N SOҮDZ
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>>75612995
OP pic is bullshit, it wouldn't take nearly that long for an all-fruit diet to kill you
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>>75613138
starving of nutrients like complete proteins, essential fatty acids, vitamins and minerals. fruits provide some minerals and vitamins but are mostly water and sugar. we need some meat fish eggs or animal foods of some sort to get adequate nutrients
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>white women dying
Zero fucks given
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>>75613013
Cutting by definition is malnutrition. I don't know what your point is.
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>>75613983
Why? You can get your proteins from nuts if that's what you're confused about. She's just retarded (obviously) and ate too little.
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>>75613067
It's really amazing how the Cooneys of the world can still function completely normally with no muscle mass at all and dissolving organs.

Late stage cancer patients are the same way. Perfectly lucid and able to hold conversations when half their brain is rotted away.
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>>75614013
It's not about protein, eating an all-fruit diet is basically speedrunning liver failure. It's literally trying to live off of nothing but sugar and a trivial amount of vitamins and fiber.
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>>75614008
not necessarily. you can cut while maintaining essential nutrients
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>>75614056
That's not the statement that I made. The statement that I made was not inaccurate. You're being semantic.
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>>75614067
>The statement that I made was not inaccurate
im saying it was
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>>75614071
You're certainly entitled to be wrong if you wish.
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>>75614044
>trivial amount of vitamins and fiber
Anon, have you ever even seen a fruit before? Besides, as I said, you can get a good macro profile if you just eat enough nuts and, as for micros, fruits are literally the main source for most vitamins and minerals. Besides, I think our livers can handle a diet comprising mostly of simple sugars just fine or the country of America wouldn't exist.
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>>75614077
likewise
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>>75614080
I accept your concession. Have a great day, man.
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>>75614082
NTA, cutting is not malnutrition. Eating macros and micros while going into a caloric deficit so your body consumes fat for the purpose of looking better and being healthier is not malnutrition. Caloric deficits are not malnutrition when your are healthy, eating, and hydrating lol
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>>75614109
I didn't read past the first couple words of your post because it's literally malnutrition. It's less nutrients, which is what the prefix mal means.
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>>75614119
That's an odd way to say what I said is right
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>>75614125
You're certainly free to deliberately misunderstand how people use the English language if you so choose.
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>>75614079
>Eating nothing but fruit is fine as long as you eat something besides fruit.
Are you ESL or retarded?
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>>75614119
>It's less nutrients
>which is what the prefix mal means
That'd be less nutrients than you NEED. You don't need calories if you're fat. So yeah, cutting with a healthy diet isn't malnutrition. Regardless, malnutrition isn't a verb, it's a condition, you don't get malnutrition from cutting for a set period of time, you get it by not eating enough nutrients (regardless of calories) for an extended amount of time.
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>>75614131
In the first world there is no malnutrition
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>>75614152
>nuts aren't fruits
When will niggers understand that culinary and biological terms aren't the same thing? Fruitarians eat fruits (biological) because they don't want to kill plants so they only eat what the plant made specifically for eating (fruits). Unless said fruitarian is unironically retarded and doesn't know this, in which case I wouldn't even understand their motivations.
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>>75614008
>eat eggs and meat
>lose weight
>maintain muscle mass
>still get every nutrient your body needs
It’s that simple. Stop losing weight like a retard.
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>>75613022
It means that you’re not eating enough of a balanced diet to receive essential micro and macronutrients, which I would imagine is what caused the woman above to die at half the lifespan of someone like Trump who eats McDonalds all the time. Humans were created to be omnivorous for a reason man.
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>>75613013
>brought out all the seething dyels with no muscle
based post, based post
/thread
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>>75614008
post body retard
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>>75612995
She died because I didn't shove my banana in her mouth enough>>75612995
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>>75614263
Based, Redpilled, etc
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>>75614008
Retarded take, you can still get adequate nutrition on moderately reduced caloric intake, but you can't get it by just eating fruit and no fucking protein for 10+ years, that's why this retarded twat keeled over and died.
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>>75614185
You're using the word wrong, and it was literally just explained to you what it means.
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>>75614227
>>75614306
See
>>75614119
>it's literally malnutrition. It's less nutrients, which is what the prefix mal means.
Please read before posting. Thanks.
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>>75614306
it's a form of anorexia
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>>75614512
fuck up fatty
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>>75614079
People who support veganism don't know about micro nutrients lmao
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>>75614131
Quoting the dictionary doesn't give you the correct usage of English language lmao. Dictionaries are descriptive, they are always a few years late. The actual language evolves constantly and your faggot dictionaries always have to be updated
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>>75614580
No, it doesn't. I didn't read past the first sentence of your post. Words have meaning, but of course you'll keep responding because you want to be correct. In any case, I'm going to unmark this post, so I don't have to deal with your attempts at witty one-ups. Faggot
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>>75612995
>This is your fault you fucking chuds
But I did nothing
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>>75613071
So going for volume for weight loss won't work?
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>>75613173
Kys Moxyte the ketoschizo
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>>75612995
She died a while ago now, if you're hearing about it now it's someone using recycled stories.

She actually died from something unrelated to her diet. Her diet probably did contribute but not in the way you think and ketards imagine. It wasn't that she was low on vitamins b12 or witchdoctor medical theories like that, it was that she couldn't get enough healthy raw fruit because it wasn't available.

>>75613011
It unironically is.
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>>75615266
2/2
This is an unbiased search for 39 year old western woman .
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>>75615266
>>75615271
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>>75613018
Zhanna Samsonova

https://nationalpost.com/news/vegan-raw-food-influencer-who-ate-all-fruit-diet-allegedly-dies-of-malnutrition-infections
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>>75613173
Kill yourself OP
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>>75615271
That's not what the word unbiased means. Google search results are formed based on your previous searches.
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>>75615372
>dies-of-malnutrition-infections

don't even need to read the article to say she didn't get enough zinc and copper, and that was her fatal mistake after a long series of bad decisions.

>fruits and veggies should be like 40-60% of your calories.
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Fruits and vegetables have all the amino acids (protein), vitamins and minerals you need as well as other essentials like fibre, carbohydrates, polyphenols, flavonoids, antioxidants
Meats and animal products do not
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>>75616543
the article says she was *just* eating durian and jackfruit. fruits lack the essential amino acid isoleucine.

>i'd know, i'm the spammer testing its intermittent restriction, and it's literally the best recomp diet ever.
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>>75613018
the source is the skeleton in the picture I'd say
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I don't understand how anyone can look at the pathetic plight of vegans and come to the conclusion that we need a "balance" of foods that will kill you and foods that will easily maintain optimal health. "Balanced diet" tard are possibly even more stupid than vegans.
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>>75616543
At least 20 nutrients missing from fruits and vegetables, and that's not counting nutrients lost due to low bio-availability. Stop lying to yourself. This doesn't happen to people who eat meat. You can eat processed bacon and nothing else and end up healthier than a vegan, that's how retarded your world view is.
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>>75616611
please enlighten me on which polyphenols I can find in meat
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>>75616614
if polyphenols don't get into animal meat they won't get into your meat either
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>>75616644
>carnie schizos actually justify not eating fruits by telling themselves this shit

explain all this fancy shit then: https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/26/16/4887
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>>75616672
industry funded research. I eat veges I'm just saying polyphenols must be in meat too if they go into the body because animals eat way more polyphenols than we do
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>>75612995
Raw veganism isn't veganism.
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>>75616613
>You can eat processed bacon and nothing else and end up healthier than a vegan,
Lol ok
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>>75616689
>must be
How scientific
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>>75616689
>because animals eat way more polyphenols than we do
Yeah all those polyphenols in refined cornmeal and hulled ꜱoybeans
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>>75616699
>Iced coffee isnt coffee
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>>75616746
veganism is induced holocaust mode. literally using willpower to eat like a starving person on a stranded island. imagine think that's healthy.
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>>75616543
>22 cups of watermelon
Every fucking time
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>>75612995
I wonder if it's truly possible to be healthy as a vegan. I mean, I imagine if you really studied it out and measured everything you could get enough fat and protein from nuts (though it would take alot). There's probably vegan vitamins to cover a lot of stuff you only get from meat. I can't help but think these people simply didn't understand macros.
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>>75616763
I didnt ask for some random extreme rant but ok
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>>75616778
The person in the picture had an eating disorder. It has nothing to do with knowing about nutrition. They willingly did this to themselves. You can see it in a lot of fruitarians. They do it because they can eat huge volumes of hyperpalatable food and still be way under maintenance calories. I mean how many apples can you eat at once? Two, three max?
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>>75616689
what if I told you that there is a fair amount of research on this outside of "big fruit" and the real reason why you don't find polyphenols in meat isn't because they don't do anything or animals don't eat a shitton of them, but just because they have fairly short biological halflives and therefore do not accumulate appreciably in meat.
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>>75616779
I wrote 3 short sentences are you retarded
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>>75616798
wait don't answer that you're vegan ofc you are
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>>75616798
I don't know why you're so viscerally upset and visually emotionally charged at me saying "lol okay"
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>>75616801
>visually emotionally charged

>anon can see through the internet
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>>75616808
>reacts with insults and pejoratives to two neutral words
Okay man get well soon
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>>75616801
>forces himself to eat like a starving peasant
>lives in a time of endless quality food the likes of which his ancestors never dreamed of
>why are you upset with me?
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>>75616813
>pivots to ad hom
>still extremely angry for no reason
>projecting nonsense nobody even mentioned
Like I said man get well soon
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>>75616820
imagine thinking you get to discredit what I said because you remember 8th english class concepts and insert it randomly into the convo
just lol at your tiny IQ
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>>75616831
Get well soon
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>>75616836
I eat a healthy diet
but same to you
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>>75614247
>having muscle is when you literally die from not eating enough
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>>75616614
phytochemicals aren't healthy. You know all those people who don't eat plants and have no health problems as a result? Yeah that's why. You know all the thousands of vegans suffering from malnourishment? It's because phytochemicals aren't nutrients and they're learning that the hard way. Now you can go back to discord.
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>>75616756
Veganism is not a retarded fad of a diet; it's a lifestyle based on ethics and the belief that animals should not be harmed or exploited by humans. Eating raw fruit and nothing else for social media clout (mental illness) is not veganism, it's just retarded and worthy of a Darwin Award. But you need at least two braincells to rub together to understand these differences.
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>>75612995
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>>75616890
My point is there isn't such a thing as "raw veganism"; it's either veganism or its not. There's a difference between following veganism (a philosophy and ethical stance) and just a vegan/plant-based diet. One is grounded in centuries long arguments, while the other is just a fad for liberals, mentally ill women, and homosexuals to follow.
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Apparently this was what she looked like before she died.
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>>75616904
could honestly pass for an "after" photo if she were lying down.
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>>75616890
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>>75616904
Tragic, if she just sucked some cock and swallowed she would have gotten the nootrients she lacked.
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>>75616970
>nootrients
hehe
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>>75616920
I bet you thought you were very clever, but it really doesn't apply. See >>75616898
Also
>Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals.
>The foundations of veganism include ethical, moral, environmental, health and humanitarian arguments.
So no, but nice try.
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>>75617007
I guess we're just not going to see eye to eye since you keep committing a fallacy. Have a good day then.
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>>75616890
>veganism is not a fad MOM, it's an epic life philosophy that heckin moomoos and cluckclucks deserve human rights that totally isn't just one of the sad gay perversions of modern liberal west!
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>>75616543
>22 cups of watermelon a day
We've been over this.
>75g of protein per day
You need to more than double that to build and maintain muscle. You'd have to eat over 5000 calories per day, and using your foods and weights listed there, about 25 pounds of food per day. And that's not even the worst of it. I can not imagine what kind of meal you're making with 22 cups of watermelon, a single onion, kale, bell peppers, and brown rice.
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>>75616890
If these atheists think they're not just another animal why do they have a problem eating animals. Is this a subtle mental distinguishment or 'furry thing cute don't hurt furry thing' mentality
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>>75616890
>western
The fact that he attributes this trait exclusively to western cultures is actually a sign of his own crudity and barbarity. Philosophy discarded.
>it's a lifestyle based on ethics and the belief that animals should not be harmed or exploited by human
It's a pseudo religious cult based on the extension of self hating humans to total misanthropy. They believe consuming foods required for human health is a sin. They wish humans to suffer and die because they hate themselves. This is why they have no issue making up misleading documentaries to harm people. This is why they're insufferable. This is why they intentionally mislead people all the time. They say things like red meat causes cancer when it doesn't and there isn't any evidence that it does. And they say things like soi isn't an endocrine disruptor when it is and causes many health problems especially in infants. They don't care about you or your health, they only wish for you to suffer and to perpetuate the ideology which maximizes this suffering.



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