ive had some skin problems this past 2 years with random eczema outbreaks on my back and arms, if i do nothing then it just gets worse and worse to the point its tough to stay still sleeping.before, ive had to apply some steroid cream to make it go away (usually for a month), so wanted to try some dietary changes with this recent flare up and read some people had success with a strict zero carb diet and i believe them now, as ive been eating only meat and eggs for just 9 days (with a day eating nothing) and all the itchiness has been gone for 5 days and the red blotches have shrunk down to the point i can only see them without feeling anything there when touched.its only been 9 days on this carnivore bullshit and i already find all of this food utterly fucking revolting and have no appetite for it at all, sure having a steak or some bacon is nice when its with something else but on its own its making my soul cringe up in pain thinking about eating tomorrow.are all the people who treat it as a "lifestyle" completely full of shit?surely these extreme restrictive diets should only be seen as a therapy or medicine
>>75711567it's a meme bro.
>>75711567>steroid creamlook up Topical Steroid Withdrawal Syndrome. You need to be careful of this shit
>>75711583yeah i have, its why i dont want to use it, havent touched it this round.>>75711572it has to be, eating this meat on its own every day is disgusting
>>75711567I have been eating so called carnivore diet since last summer. I mix eggs and cheese there to make it less revolting. I lost all excess fat and fixed my eating addiction. I eat this way because it just works for me and it's quite cheap when I get half of my daily calories from eggs. I wouldnt recommend it to just anyone.
>>75711567try topical sesame oil and keep eating your fruit & veggies
>>75711645im struggling with it, i think adding dairy into things would be a must if you were doing it longer than the 2 weeks ive been planning, for something like medium/long term weight loss it must be brutal.im doing it for my skin being shitty but ive felt fine on the diet, obviously its too soon to say if ive lost any weight but i feel a bit leaner, so there is something to it but fuck me the meat on meat combo of meals is a grind.been watching some paul saladino tonight and he quit the pure carnivore grind like most end up doing, he eats a ton of fruit now with the meat but his lifestyle is all outdoors in a hot country doing surfing and whatever, pretty sure most normal people living in the north would blow the fuck up if they tried the same.
>>75711674the steak and eggs thing has cleared it and pretty fast too, ill be curious to see what foods bring it back from here.the idea of adding just cheese or something as simple as sour cream at this stage will feel like eating the tastiest chocolate cake and ice cream of my life.
>>75711567Just eat when you’re actually hungry
>>75711567How many times a day do you eat?I'm on a ribeye/beef diet when I eat at home (I'll eat anything when out with friends. So it rarely applies to weekends)Sometimes I add eggs, green beans, broccoli or pickles. But I only ever eat dinner + black coffee for lunch
>>75712588>How many times a day do you eat?once a day, ive been doing omad for so long the abbreviation wasnt even used when i started in 2009, was working a job where i had to start early in the morning so my routine ended up being leave for work at 6am, home by 3pm, eat, sleep at 5pm and wake up about 1-2am and sit around playing games or whatever until i went to work.i lived that fucked up schedule for years and the one meal in the evening thing just stuck.you couldnt do carnivore more than once a day, youd be sick of your eggs for breakfast thing by day 3
>>75711645how fat were you and how fat are you now? if you don't mind me askingi'd also be curious as to your diet pre-carnivore
>>75711567I got rid of my chronic gout.Doc kept saying I just "aggravated" my toe from my exercise and HIIT. I was finally diagnosed with gout when I had an erupting lesion which was leaking gout crystals and puss from underneath my big toe nail. Dealt with that shit for 4 years. Every diet change they told me to do just made the attacks more frequent. The more "whole grain" I ate the more frequent my attacks. The more "greens" I ate the more attacks.This was also while i was on 300mg allopurinol and the doc was trying to get me enrolled in a clinical trial for a new drug.Saw some faggot redditor post on the gout forum he had been gout free eating nothing but beef butter bacon, eggs, and salt for something like 5 years. He was gout free eating more meat in a day than I had been eating per week for almost as long.I'm going on two years without an attack. I was getting an attack once every 2 or 3 months even on meds following their "no red meat diet" bullshit. I'm also back to drinking like a fish and my uric acid levels are lower now than when I was on allopurinol.
>>75712956>youd be sick of your eggs for breakfast thing by day 3Breakfast makes me feel sick no matter what. Starting the day on a full stomach is the weirdest meme ever...I'd say continue until the blotches are gone and then slowly start adding stuff back into your diet. Like trying different greens instead of eggs all the time. If you add something and the rash comes back, don't eat that
>>75712971Starting weight 120kg and now 75kg. I ate basic carb heavy normie diet, and I had an eating addiction because of carbs. Now Im free of that addiction. I cant eat carbs because I relapse easily. If someone else can handle carbs without binging then include them in your diet
>>75713007>If someone else can handle carbs without binging then include them in your dietcannibalism is illegal, anon. Even for carnivores
>>75713007cool thanks - congrats on the weightloss anon
>>75711567I’ve been on a animal-based since around september, anybody trying to discredit this is a fat-fuck who is food-cucked. I lost 20 pounds through mainly the diet alone over 3 months, kept all muscle. All my ache was gone within a month, strength was increased tremendously. You have to eat liver tho, preferably raw. I started making some beef tartare, which is basically just cut up raw sirloin steaks and some halloumi cheese with the fat from the steaks cooked. The only people who hate the diet are either those who get cucked by supermarkets and don’t want to shop in Co-ops and shop local ( Imagine being a food slave for McSloppy or Wal-suck-me-nuts).
>>75711567Yes, I'm sure having a problem with one part of your body can be solved by going on an extremely restrictive nutrient deficient diet, and this could not possibly cause any problems anywhere else in your body at all.
>>75713025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFv04wcBt4g
>>75714159>Jump-cut filter effects and clickbait nonsense within the first four seconds of the video.Nope
>>75711599we're omnivores naturally and scientifically even veganism is a fallacious meme
>>75712985good shit anon, they say gouts damage over time is cumulative and can cause serious bone damage over time that you might not feel until your much older so anything to stop it is a huge W
>>75712998yeah i think thats how im going to do it, i just need to not get carried away with how sick i am of the beef, i already know ow its going to be giga tempting to just have one meal with a load of dairy or some veggies and then just chalk it up as a success only because i want it to be
>>75714099>I'm sure having a problem with one part of your body can be solved by going on an extremely restrictive nutrient deficient dieti view it as a medical treatment, its not something i intend to do forever
>>75715408Are you insinuating something has to be chronic for it to cause issies
Another meme diet.
>>75711567I don't understand how anybody looks forward to seed sludge.The solution is to eat when you are hungry and not eat when you are not hungry.
>>75717048Literally nothing you said is relevant to the post you replied to. Why do seed oil people always constantly bring it up in random situations?
>>75711567>steroid creamlol imagine giving up your natty card
>>75714099>nutrient deficientlol, lmao
>>75717240>Literal picture of it>influencers left and right quitting and starting to eat a more valanced diet>no its not real
>>75713007>I had an eating addiction because of carbsNo you had an eating addiction because you ate garbage processed foods.You're lying anyway and you don't weigh 75kg, you're a fat fuck meme dieter lying on the internet.
>>75717048Based schizo
>>75717093Most carbs in foods are seed sludge too. Grains made into a sludge.
>>75718412Literally nobody mentioned that either. Nobody's talking about seeds period.
>>75711567Hydrate more. Sleep more.
>>75715371My right toe is already old man looking from the damage. The growth has shrank though confirming the buildup has been resolved.I'm just pissed off this was hidden from me. When I was eating barely any chicken (1lb/week max) and no seafood and no red meat, I was on 300mg of allopurinol. This was the lowest my uric acid was during "standard dietary gout advice" it was 7.6. I had completely eliminated alcohol as well.When i went carnivore it was 1 month before my re-up on my allo, so I was due for blood work. After lessthan 40 days on the diet my UA levels were 2.5. Below the reference range (3.5-7.2)My arthritis doc. "Oh wow. That must be wrong, we'll do another test." I told him I changed my diet to all meat. He called me a fucking moron in doctor speak and ordered another test because there MUST be an error. I stopped taking my meds after that call. My next blood draw was a week later, day 8 of no allo. I told him at the time I did the draw I hadn't taken my allo in 8 days at that point and he grumbled. That draw came back 3.2. And I was eating 2.5lbs of ground beef patties a day hitting it hard trying to recoup my strength.My uric acid keep coming back between 3.2 and 3.7, so I stopped testing it after a year. According to him I'm an "outlier".
I am on carnivore for over a year.When I am disgusted by food, I fast for a day or two, or three.I only eat, when my brain decides that meat looks delicious again.But if you want to force it, eat only eggs or fish or liver.Also, you are a fucking retard.
>>75712985>I'm also back to drinking like a fishlolAlcohol doesn't make it worse anymore?
Carnivore did not help me eczema and it made my shit rock solid. Like I had to pour a quarter gallon of bleach into the toilet to make that motherfucker flush. I could have rebuilt the Tower of Babel out of my own shit, no rebar substructure, and personally met God. But instead I quit carnivore and did the cold-showers-only meme instead.
>>75711567going on the carnivore diet made me give up meat for the most part.
>>75719836Nope. I make mead which I ferment all the way to bone dry and do not backsweeten. I also drink plenty of whisky. Between the two of us I'm responsible for about 2.5 bottles(750ml) of mead per week and a bottle of scotch whisky per 2 weeks. Uric acid still rock bottom of the reference range.
>>75720034You weren't eating enough fat.Hard poop = eat more fatSoft/runny stool = eat less fat.
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>>75720150I have personally with my own eyes watch that man scarf down 3 plates of pasta hours after he was on stage telling everyone he's keto. He's a degenerate fucking liar.
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>>75720139carnivores always have some contrived pseudo-scientific reason why something is off or doesn't work for people and it's never the fact that it's an unnatural fad diet. No, it has to be you have to eat so much fat that your body cant digest some of it and therefore the undigested fat lubricates your stool and makes it softer.
>>75720162You just admitted to listening to a speech about low carb diets from an obese man.
>>75711567i'm day ~7 into carnivore (some vegetables included), and I agree it's pretty hard. every day I want pizza but feel guilty about possibly breaking the cycle, it's annoying. perhaps I will make a compromise with thin crust?
>>75711567You are not healing because you are eating meat. You are because you are not eating longer the processed garbage that you were eating previously.
>>75718726That's what he wants to eat, tard. Nobody looks forward to rice or something.
>>75721958The thing you want in pizza is the seed sludge.
>>75722873>>75718726
>>75722890There is a guy right there who just admitted so.
>>75722898You are obsessed with projecting your biased and obsessive worldview onto other people. The thread OP never said anything about anything that you've said, nor the words that you put into his mouth. Just take the loss and learn to be more open-minded. Not everything is about seed oils or grains.
>>75722905I know so because I've seen so too many times. It always comes down to seed sludge. You don't want meat plus fruit or meat plus rice, you want that seed sludge. What's wrong with pizza toppings alone? You are seed sludge-addicted.
>>75722916Okay.
>>75711599It's best to treat carnivore as an elimination diet. You do strict carnivore for a few days or even a few weeks, heal your health problems, and then slowly - one at a time - reintroduce foods to see what effect they have on your body. I've been doing this slowly over the past year or so, and I can now tolerate meat, eggs, dairy, fruit, sauerkraut, and some veggies. My health issues are mostly gone, and I don't dread my meals or crave anything. When the body is well-nourished, taste becomes irrelevant. Most people are addicted to flavors, whether that be spices, added sugar, salt, the caramel coating on cooked food, etc. You can undo any of these addictions, but it will of course be painful in the short term. Your body will eventually learn to associate the taste of the food with the vitality it gives you, and condiments will become optional additions rather than necessities. I add spices to my food when I get a craving, but 90% of the time I just add salt. And I eat honey or fruit when I get a carb craving.
>>75722970Nuanced and reasonable take. I'm very happy to hear that your health problems have mostly resolved. These are the kinds of posts I like to see. Logical, neutral, and not filled with vitriol or tribalism. Good on you anon. Godspeed
>>75721974not everyone is a cookie cutter model as you describe. I was only drinking beer and rarely are food for over a year, which was probably macaroni and cheese and pizza rolls when I did.
>>75711567Your eczema went away because your dietary restrictions eliminated something from your diet that caused an allergic reaction. Now reintroduce food into your diet one by one to figure out what that was. When you get eczema again you have found the culprit, so stop eating that thing. You don't have to follow a meme diet to be healthy.
If this marshmallow soiboy thinks carnivore is wrong, I don't want to be right.https://youtu.be/8wJrlcIm4y4?si=fhnutd2XZyynG7HT
>>75721404Don't eat cheese or milk. You don't need it and it is unhealthy. It's for babies. Quite literally milk is only for babies that are mammals. Dairy is not necessary for a diet. You can get calcium from a ton of other foods. Broccoli is very high in calcium. The USDA brainwashed Americans into believing that dairy was necessary. The food pyramid was sold to the highest bidder.You can eat carbs, but your body already converts protein to carbs on its own. Carbs are pretty much empty calories. Little to no nutritional value. If you eat carbs eat whole grains at least.
>>75723607What exactly makes milk suitable for babies but unsuitable for adults?
>>75723579What channel is he reviewing?I want to go laugh at that silly they/them weirdo
>>75723868The fact that its the entire purpose of milk
>>75723607>but your body already converts protein to carbs on its own. Carbs are pretty much empty calories. Little to no nutritional value. If you eat carbs eat whole grains at least.Jesus christ you're a fucking idiot. You think your body converts proteins to glucose when it needs it?That just doesn't happen when you're on a zero carb/carnivore diet. You see, there's this thing called fat which your body burns for fuel. You'll find that individual fatty acids are rarely found in our foods or in our bodies. The vast majority of fat is found in the form of three fatty acids bound up with a glycerol molecule. As your body metabolizes fat this glycerol is freed as the fatty acids are cleaved from it. This glycerol take an ATP and NAD to get to dihydroxy acetone, then through to fructose and glucose. Protein catabolism to pyruvate costs energy in itself, and pyruvate to glyceraldehyde take 2 more ATP on top of that.Glyceraldehyde and dihydroxy acetone are the energy input nexus into the fructose and glucose chain. At 9kcal/g of fat that is approximately 278g of fat flux.. using beef tallow as a fat source for fatty acid composition of this diet (65% C18, 29%C16, and the balance of C14) you find that glycerol accounts for a full 25% of the fat you ingest meaning that 278g of fat contains 70g of glycerol which can readily be converted to a whopping 180g of glucose through gluconeogenesis.The vast majority of people would never need their bodies to produce more than that amount of glucose. I don't understand why supposedly intelligent people who try to study the metabolism of this diet still insist that the body is converting (wasting) protein to make glucose when the literal waste product of fat metabolism is infinitely more useful.
>>75711567>>75712985I've been doing Carnivore for 5 days, and plan to do it for atleast thirty, if not longerIs getting scurvy and gout something yall were afraid of?
>>75723868the fact that he's a dumb lactose intolerant thirdie that's jealous of chad aryan dairy enjoyers (such as myself)
>>75724940>gluconeogenesis: evangelionSAAAAAH UUUUN GOKU NA TENSHI, NA YOO-ONI
>>75723607>You don't need it and it is unhealthy
>>75724489you don't understand anything about nutrition lol
>>75723607>Broccoli is very high in calcium
>>75724993Carnivore eliminted my gout.I wasn't eating any red meat, no seafood, and only 1lb of chicken per week on my gout diet with 300mg of allopurinol. My uric acid was in the 7s. After switching to carnivore the highest my uric acid has been is 3.6. I've been gout free for over 2 years after dealing with gout for 5 years.Scurvy isn't a thing. Ascorbic acid competes for entry into cells with glucose via GLUT4. Where glucose needs to be actively transported through the transporter, ascorbic acid passively diffuses. Furthermore the energetics of cellular metabolism in this state sees the mitochondria exporting excess citrate into the cytoplasm. This citrate locks out the glut4 transporter in a configuration the glucose can't even bind meaning its easier for ascorbic acid to enter. On top of all that ascorbic acid is used in the synthesis of collagen. Consuming 2+lbs of meat and the related collagen reduces the synthesis your body needs to engage in. Finally, grain fed beef has more than 5.3mg/5oz serving of C, at 32oz/day minimum that's 20mg. Throw in all those benefits and that 20mg is far in excess of what you need.Finally, just look up any account of sailors stranded with scurvy with the inuit. One account half the ship mutiny'd and hiked to an inuit village. The inuit threw away the sailors food and only allowed them to eat seal blubber. These sailors who were suffering from full blown scurvy made a full recovery. How can something which causes scurvy also be the cure?
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>>75725063Ok
>>75725119thanks anon
>>75725119I get the whole "don't need much vitamin c 'cause no carbs"But what about alcohol? If I go on a bender, would I have any deficiencies on carnivore except for the usual hangover?
>>75717471>>75720150>>75721404>keto138.jpg>keto132.pngLmao Moxyte you're not well in the head. You're getting more and more schizo every passing year.
>>75717093Seed sludge is flour. Anything made from flour is baked seed sludge. Seed oil is different (though also pure poison).
>>75727528I got it the first couple times you replied. Stop pretending to be someone else, you're using the same mannerisms. Its so obvious.
steak and eggs for the rest of my life? where do i sign up?
>>75727544I'm not the other guy. Just thought I would jump in and educate you since you're obviously a drooling retard.
>>75727646Yes, you are. You're using the exact same terminology. You're obsessed with seed oils and grains. I'm not going to argue with you.
>>75727652Not me, retard. Commit sudoku.
>>75727705Not sure what this is supposed to prove to the other guy. Its not even in order.
For me, supplementing D and K helped my eczema a ton. Maybe get your bloodwork done and see what vitamins and minerals you're deficient in and start supping them.
>>75726238I drink like a fish now that carnivore cured my gout. I have no complications.
Real carnivores eat raw meat.Just sayin'
>>75725119It's really hard for veganfags to accept that scurvy isn't caused by vitamin C deficiency because it's one of the few myths left that people still believe that they can use to claim plants are beneficial.
>>75728839Skip goatis, go directly to the source: Aajonus
