How to get this kind of punching power?
seems to be mostly genetic, no hard puncher ever became like that by training. Ernie Shavers was the hardest hitter there ever was by far and he seems to have just been born that way.
>>75712775Train boxing
More like how did the brain evolve to be so fragile?There's no weight in that punch to justify a knockout. Probably just the right things aligning for the brain to give up.
>>75712795lifts for this feel BBCbros?
>>75712775genetics and training
>>75712800one theory is humans succeeded because we are friendly not psychopaths therefore going unconscious is a better survival mechanism than being able to fight to the death
>>75712775he took a dive
>>75712819was more likely just another in Deontay's long list of can victories
>>75712826Imagine if tysoy didnt get a 15 sec count
>>75712834as a casual fan this was my favorite fight of all time
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>>75712790>seems to be mostly genetic, no hard puncher ever became like that by training.Wrong. Benny Leonard, Rocky Marciano and Jack Dempsey all started out as non-punchers and became knockout machines.
>>75712800>There's no weight in that punch to justify a knockout.He took a dive.
>>75712834Imagine if Wildumb didn't get destroyed in the rematch
>>75712800>There's no weight in that punch to justify a knockout.Irrelevant. Precision beats power. Timing beats speed.-Cocaine Man
>>75712790He used to say in interviews that he attributed his punching power to the years of chopping wood with an axe as a kid.
>>75712877Curling is the only exercise I did as a little kid and it's the only exercise I have exceptional strength in as an adult. Children should start lifting in kindergarten.
>>75712775from research i've done over the years to get more power myself these things all matter >genetics/potential/unchange-ableframe and body proportions, specific muscle bellies help, hand/wrist size, power punchers are usually hot tempered and low iq mentally ill, impulsive people>style/technique, a knockout punch doesn't actually take much force at all, just a very basic hit connecting in the right place at the right time, the thing is power punchers will wear someone down fast with non-ko punches leading them to get the inevitable free ko-punches if they haven't koed yet, basic punching mechanics will make you punch hardest you can>weightbeing bigger makes you hit harder obviously, but some fighters are capable of cutting and bulking weight faster and end up significantly heavier than their opponents during their fights>general strengthkind of matters but not that much, mostly helps in developing explosiveness with other training, need to do a lot of rotational stuff, never focus on isolation/bodybuilding style training>explosiveness/athleticismplyometrics and explosive concentric lifting, applying the same concepts to sport specific training like never pulling punches on the bag and mitts etc, basically soviet style stuff, lots of max effort jumping and some oly lifts>conditioning/cardioif you don't have much power but have a granite chin and endurance you could develop a style to exhaust your opponents and eventually overwhelm them with free hits or break them down over time>cheatingsome kos are just rigged fights or even drug the opponent
>>75712834He didn't and you are coping. Let it go, the nigger got finished twice by Tyson and that's what will be remembered.
>>75712775It's crazy how little power and technique are in this punch, it's not like the Ortiz KO where he blew his head off, he just boops him on the nose almost, kind of lends credence to those "pressure point" knockout scams
>>75713092Ortiz KO was a rather short punch too and hit him on the top of the head
>>75712977Tysoy lost twice to Usyk too ;^)
>>75713148>tooWhy are you so bad at English? Tyson was undefeated before the polticially motivated losses against Usyk.
>>75713144>Ortiz KO was a rather short punch too and hit him on the top of the headOnly it was a right straight to the temple.
>>75713208>polticially motivated losses
>>75713218What, you think boxing, especially pro boxing, is different from other sports?
>>75713208>>75713218kek
>polticially motivated losses
>>75713144Yeah but the impact was much greater same here>>75712845It's just crazy how some shots will wobble people, drop them, flatline them or have no effect, the shot Zhang caught Wilder with to end his career wasn't especially huge either.
>>75713208Excellent post.>>75713218>>75713245>>75713252Are you retarded?
>>75712775That punch had nothing behind it, either Helenius took a dive against his old sparring partner or his chin is genuinely cracked to the point where he has to be careful to not get concussed driving a car over speed bumps.
>>75712775Step 1: be black
>>75713283I only watched their second fight and Tyson was moving how you would expect a giant tub of lard to move in the second fight.
>>75712775Just punch the other guy in the head, lmao.
>>75712795>jersey number is 88 too
>>75713292I believe he took a dive. His real career ended years ago when Chisora cracked his rib or something.
>>75712834There's a punch>>75712775Weird this doesn't look hard at all
>>75712864>13 seconds
>>7571283410 counts are never 10 seconds you absolute fucking casual. It was a totally normal count and he was easily up in time.
>>75713208Fury monkeys are so retarded lolHe lost twice to a middleweight btw.Worse the second time!
Train basic form first would give you the most overall bang for your buck so to speak.
>>75712775I wanna be so big I can lift someone up with a lead straight who's running at me so why not just train and stop doing extra ass workouts that get you to the same place slower trying to sculpt your delts when you are not even really benching 3pl8s.
>>75712775Deidara stand down, concede your butt to me at this instant. I for real can lift 100 more lbs than you and train real martial arts not some mickey mouse American shit for retards.
>>75713861>I have abilities far beyond your comprehensionHow it feels to train properly and not like look to others for acceptance. Oh did I do that right hm oh wow I didn't how do I be a good boy I want to be the hokage just like you.
>>75713399Why do sports people act like they're the man I just can't stand when they get sassy and jock bully like it's like a fucking cat getting uppity. You're making a little dicked jew rich while he sits on his ass are you gay?
>>75713296If you're fat your shpulders and arms should be so giant your hands are way quicker anyways
>>75712775He's lucky it landed >>75712790How much did he even lift was he strong and fast enough to be an actual threat to someone grappling?
>>75712800>bipedal, head-on-top biomorphic plan+high-speed maintainable gait+advanced combat+higher brain function+throwing+general height advantage+forward-facing bone thickness in skull and ribs for active protection+eldritch-tier social abilities (think about just how weird and unnatural language, writing, and the schools of logic and thought are)-easy to choke when your throat is vertical-giant lever attached to your skull (jaw) that makes getting knocked out easy as fuck with the right kind of trauma-relatively weak as fuck spine/knees due to needed mobility and flexibility-even a late birth physiologically speaking produces a half-cooked baby (compared to other species such as horses) because every woman and the baby would die in childbirth if we (and more specifically our skulls) grew any larger in the womb-the brain itself is an extremely complex, fragile organism with such ridiculous capabilities that it has its own triple digit caloric intake for healthy function and even then it's constantly breaking down or fucking itself over by chugging too much - granting you the "ability" to inadvertently will yourself sick, break entirely from stress and fear, permanently lock in negative traits from trauma, etc-eldritch-tier social abilities (think about the consequences language, writing, and the schools of logic and thought have had)
>>75712800>There's no weight in that punchboxing is all about weight transfer, shut the fuck up
Steroids, maybe
>>75713958Most fighters do bad lifting and too much cardio, you can train cardio for 1-2mo and be basically elite lifting takes a lifetime. Big is fast idk what the fuck boxing coaches are smoking probably actually smoking crack seeing as they hang out in the slums to make their boxing gym more rustic and ofc more cool black people.
>>75712775You can't because wilder was born with it but you can improve your power by lifting heavy weights fast, like oly lifts and weighted plyos and with plyometrics.Also having a good kinetic chain to produce as much power as possible and having good precision and timing so the power is used effectively and deliver the most damage.You need to do all 3.
>>75713666This looks like a dive to you?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H9SGBvouy7U
>>75713208What do you mean politically motivated?
>>75713871shut it, pip squeak
>>75712775genetics and athletic development in childhood. you obviously can improve it greatly as an adult even if you weren't athletic as a child, and almost everyone is capable of generating decent power (enough to knock someone out) provided they also train some technique. there's absolutely no way for someone without natural power or athleticism to bridge the gap however. they can improve but theyll never develop freak power.
>>75712909wise post. you know what's up.
>>75713298imagine if he actually trained instead of just getting off the sofa and stepping in the ring
>>75712790>GeneticsThis answer is always a cope from losers that refuse to try hard at anything.
>>75714535>dont worry little 5 foot 2 indian with the frame of a child who never did any sports growing up>you can develop FREAK POWER if you just try hard enough!
>>75714535
>>75714538Jacob Marlala was 4'11".Cope more.
>>75712775Its genetic mostly, considering how many good boxers and champions there were in the history of boxing and how few of them had knockout power like that, they all trained hard obviously and training can improve your punching power of course, but it will never be as good as a guy who was born with it, i think it has to do with whether you have more fast twitch muscle fibers, bone density etc
>>75714538>Who never did any sports growing upThat's not genetics you goalposts moving copelord. People that are good at their sport are good because they trained their entire life. Some of them are explicitly not genetically gifted and they would still wreck your shit because you've never trained. Yes, genetics will make your efforts into extraordinary ability but trying to towrite off the entirety of their accomplishment to "muh generic" is a weak cope that you use to keep from roping rather than admit you just don't apply yourself.
>>75714535If it could be trained then every single pro boxer would be a KO artist. Because there's absolutely no reason to not have the ability to end a fight with a single punch.
>>75712834Wilder used to be an absolute killer, shame he fell down so far.
>>75712775>Pullups>Bench dips
>>75713092>>75713274Wilder was just athletic enough to throw a powerful punch from many angles, he had great fluidity and a great kinetic chain.
>>75712775Squats and oats
>>75714534He trained incredibly well, he made to reigning unified champion, he didn't need to look like a bodybuilder to do so.
For me, its Inoue
>>75714904Bum.
>>75714747I guarantee that any professional boxer absolutely can knock out any untrained fighter with a single punch. Turns out you can also train a strong neck to avoid knockout which is why boxers don't go down on the first punch. Why are you being such a fag about this? Are you really that mind broken over the fact that you're not good at anything? Is the only way to survive to cope and say you just have bad genetics instead of realizing these people just work harder than you?
>>75715031By that same logic, then the KO percentages should be around the same and KO artists wouldn't exist.>untrained fightersNo shit>boxers don't go down on the first punchClearly you know jack shit about boxing.
>>75715046>Some boxers go down on the first punch and so training is fake and gayOk dude. You got it right. Training is pointless and you were born genetically worthless. That's the cause of all your problems. gg go next.
>>75712848Not familiar with benny but both Jack and rocky were swarmers. They wore down opponents with volume and pressure and got the KO in large part due to exhaustion leading to poor defense.That's significantly different to shavers and foreman "i touch you and you sleep" power
>>75713958they both gassed coming up to each other, unreal
>>75714907manlet rage is dangerous
>>75714747Combat sports are plagued by biased ignorant coaches that latch to what they know and refuse to learn until everyone else is doing it, just like you are doing right now.fighters often refuse to do anything but what their coaches tell you
>>75714747https://www.ksep-es.org/m/journal/view.php?number=768Get fucked pillowfisted faggot.
You can't train for power but for some reason power punchers are always training for power.Funny how that works.
>no footwork or stamina>mogged by the chinese village idiotTotal Zhang Victory.
You guys are all fucking retarded, I was born with power but I learned how to train power. Because I was able to test trial and error for workouts in how to train for punching power.Been at combat sports for 2 decades now. And I have knockout power. And Trained knockout power. Just go back to your bodybuilding workouts you retards.
>>75714675There are plenty of professional fighters that don't have anywhere close to Wilders punching power despite training their entire life. That's because it's genetics.
Holy fucking cope Usyk clearly beat Fury twice and retired him
>>75715380U always have to chase the stars u might hit the moon
>>75716706Hell yes, sister, lets march with our ukrai-pride flags and tell that fascist to get the HECK out of ukraine!!
>>75716933Happy new year
I always knew I had pop in my punches. I could throw ball farther than other kids, I would hit home runs in baseball etc. Whenever we wrestled it would take two guys to take me down because I had such good stability.
>>75716166Or better technique. Are you a pro fighter?
>>75712795god that was embarrasing to watch, fuck green gay
>>75714907Nick Ball is fun to watch but I don't think he's gonna go far. He'll probably get fucked up by the other champs at 126 and he's way too small for 130. The turbomanlet would get instantly dropped if he tried to rush Inoue like that.
>>75712800>There's no weight in that punch to justify a knockout. you should take the same punch from Wilder then. fury has one of the toughest chins in boxing mind you.
>>75715957Big Bang Zhang punches crazy hard.
>>75712909insightful post
>>75712775nice
Most boxing is rigged. Wilder couldn't ko fucking Charlie Z lol.
>>75712775Genetics, learning to punch, learning timing
>>75712815>one theory is humans succeeded because we are friendly not psychopathsBro just ignored entire human history
>>75712800Maybe the fight was set up?
>>75712848Jack Dempsey remains the greatest.
>>75721605History only focuses on big events, usually negative in nature. Just like local nightly news networks usually just talk about crimes and fires, even if you live in an area with no next to no crimes or fires. 99% of all of our existence was pretty relaxed as far as war was concerned.
>>75714535there's skinny nerds born with crazy knockout punches. you can maybe equal their untrained state with years of strength training and technique training, but the nerd with the knockout punch who actually trains as well will mog you to oblivion. you can never match that. i know people like this. they were born to be knockout artists. AND they lifted, and trained at an mma gym and eventually took roids too. you will NEVER match that. never ever. no matter how hard you try.
>>75712775That was just lucky meanwhile he lost 3 times in a row to a real fighter
Remember white men make up 1.5 to 2% of earth’s population and still dominate in history and fighting
>>75712801Do you always think of bbc when you see black guys?
>>75713871You sound female and ESL.
>>75712775You need to have a big dick to act as counterweight to get KO power
>>75712775Genetic plus Robert Helenius doesn't have a good punch resistance.
>>75717024Imagine caring about sports enough to type this postEmbarrassing, senpai
>>75712877Chopping wood is a time proven boxing exercise. >>75714907>>75714910Wee little Nick Ball, a little pocket rocket. Nipping at your heels. >>75717859>fury has one of the toughest chins in boxing mind you.I don't believe he does and I think that chin's been chipped. What he does have is godly powers of recovery. If you look at all his knockdowns each one has been a hard knockdown but he's always been able to get up and finish the fight.
